He’s Been Terrific But He Got Left Out


Alan Pardew had his press conference today for the game at Swansea on Wednesday where we lost 1-0 last season, but played well. And the Newcastle manager is now facing the dilemma that every good club have where there is tremendous competition for places, and that is to ensure his top players see some playing time fairly regularly.

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Alan Pardew – injuries will come

Top players like Hatem Ben Arfa, Steven Taylor, Vurnon Anita, Papiss Cisse and Sylvain Marveaux are all wondering when they will get their next game at Newcastle, and as we reported earlier today, they have been knocking on Alan’s door asking to play in the side.

“I would not call them fringe players by any stretch of the imagination, I would class them as first team players who are out of the team at the minute. We will need to freshen it up and change it from game to game because there are so many games.”

“Injuries will come, there is no doubt about that, we I think are in a little better position to cope since I’ came here three years ago, and I hope that is proven.” “Mike Williamson has shown if you get the opportunity, and take it, I will show faith and you will stay in the team.”

“It is the same for Hatem and Steven Taylor. It is frustrating but Steven is blocked in. Mapou has done unbelievably well and he got left out but he has been terrific.”

“They have just got to hope the chance comes and then you take it. You have to work hard on the training ground so you are ready because they will get the call.”

As Alan says above, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa has been extremely unlucky to lose his place in the side, because he has been outstanding for Newcastle when he’s played over the last several games.

And not surprisingly, Alan said the game at Swansea will be a tough game, and that he would love to extend the winning streak, which would be great – but he did say he didn’t want to lose the game, like we did last season at the Liberty Stadium bu a score of 1-0.

What do you think?

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80 comments so far

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #1

    MYM has been very very unlucky to lose his place, As is Tiote to lose the armband after some impressive performances
    Colo your a lucky lucky boy

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  • yo-yo

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Comment #2

    I would have rated both Jol and Coyle as very good potential Toon manager prospects when we ended up with AP. Funny old game football

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  • DubaiMicky

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #3

    I reckon he’s suggesting we’ll play for a draw. Whether that is a good move or not I’m not so sure, we’ve had an extra days rest than Swansea who ran their arses off at Man City yesterday. We’re never good at playing for a draw, never have been, only way we get a draw is usually if we go 1:0 or more up.
    Strongest attacking team needed.

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  • yo-yo

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #4

    TADS

    I wonder if Pardew isn’t trying to motivate Colo and get the best out of him for the time he has lfet at the Toon. More a man management objective. There is more than just form in picking him ahead of MYM . And Tiote might just be a solid choice as a long term captain in the future. AP does a lot of juggling that’s for sure

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  • John Tudor

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #5

    only a passible juggler with two balls struggles with three four and five forget about six

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #6

    Yo yo
    No doubt he’s trying to motivate Colo but i don’t understand the change in tactic, allowing him to walk back in sends a bad message imo, should of shown the same sternness as he has with Tiote Cisse Ben Arfa etc, if your not in top of your game find yourself a nice spot in that bench!

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  • Yohan Kebab

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Comment #7

    surely with swansea having no attacking threat and likely to be more tired than us after less rest and a tougher weekend fixture, it makes sense to give them a bit of HBA???

    i would rest remy as he looked tired, and rest shola as he cannot play 3 in a week, keep them for man u and play guti lm against swansea so him and sissoko can cope with dyer/routledge

    this leaves gouffran and hba up top for swansea, not bad. maybe rest tiote or cabs for anita if either are one from a suspension so that they are there for man u?

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  • John Tudor

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Comment #8

    michu may be back for swansea

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  • Yohan Kebab

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #9

    if michu is playing, different ball game altogether and tiote is a must

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  • John Tudor

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #10

    return date 4 dec

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #11

    Tsunki

    The only concern with the fringe players is if they’re not match fit. Definitely a week to use the squad though. I reckon our first choice midfield could have the edge against Man Utd on current form too. They have a team of very good players but it’s really Rooney and RvP that make their team excellent.

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  • donegalmag

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #12

    South Wales Evening Post:

    Michu is set to return to training this week, a month after damaging ankle ligaments in Swansea’s derby defeat at Cardiff.

    And Laudrup will have fingers crossed that the Spaniard will soon declare himself available for first-team duty — although Wednesday’s home clash with Newcastle will probably come too soon — as Swansea search for firepower.

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  • John Tudor

    Dec 2, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #13

    last resort isnt he

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  • yo-yo

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #14

    TADS

    Must have been really good in training then – as it is a sound policy

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  • chuck

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #15

    Pardew tends to pick winning sides, no doubt he believes thats the way to go.
    As a matter of fact he’s the most predictable manager in the league.
    Not only in team selection, but tactically.
    With no regard for who we may be playing, Citeh with their quality players or Stoke with their direct style.
    No horses for courses, as that’s possibly too complicated for him.
    Being he never adjusts the style of play during the game, other than at half time.
    Which is usually bolt the door we are leading, resulting in nine men behind the ball, with one man, totally wthout support or service alone up front.
    The best possible thing to happen is we should begin the second half tied, so we are stuck with a side that attacks rather than one that puts nine men behind the ball.
    You see we have no way of altering our style of play, once the period starts.
    Ah well, everthing comes to an end sometime.

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  • glasgowtoon

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #16

    Is Bony injured as well as Michu because I didn’t see his name at all during the City game. If they’re both out that means that Swansea will have very little firepower to use against us, they’ll still be dangerous but nowhere near as dangerous as they could be.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #17

    Will feel let down if we play for a draw. Swansea have little attacking threat without Bony and Michu fit. We should exploit that.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #18

    Also Tiote for captain for sure. He showed immense maturity and has always been dedicated. He is also our longest serving first team player after krul and colo and shola.

    Cabaye is playing for a contract IMO.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #19

    Chuck…well I have tried to raise that concern – well maybe a little bit more diplomatic, but trust me the same old same old always try to shoot it down 😉

    …I get your point and definitely agree to a certain extend!

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #20

    I am more than pleased with Colo being Capt’n when he plays.

    …if not then Cabs for me. Tiote did great when he filled in, but a Capt’n goes by example and Tiote has a long way to go for me.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #21

    *leads by example

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  • 89Norcal

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    Comment #22

    @tads – forgot about Routledge 🙂

    Anyways I really hope Hatem and Cisse can swing back to form. Hatem especially who I think has had an identity crisis on the pitch.

    When he has the ball it seems like he’s burdened himself to pull a rabbit out of his hat every time, rather than play proper football – hence he dribbles himself into trouble often and has a few wayward passes. That’s definitely not going to earn him a permanent spot so hopefully he can round out his game before he’s 30 🙂

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  • Ian Toon

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #23

    Jesper- I sense your frustration . The French have a phrase ,” moins on en parle, moins on en souffre” which means ” the less you talk about it,
    the less you suffer from it”. Wisdom indeed.

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  • 70TWO

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Comment #24

    ——— Gouffran – HBA
    Gutierrez – Tiote – Sissoko – Anita
    Santon – Collo – Willo – Debuchy
    —————- Krul

    Taken on board what others have said and believe this is a good selection of experience and including three who are looking to re-establish themselves so won’t be happy holding out for a draw.

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  • donegalmag

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Comment #25

    On Cisse’s

    His frustration is adding to his goal scoring problems, he is trying to score from stupid positions, he needs to forget about that and get involved in play and link up with the midfield, the goals will come , easier said than done but needs to take a touch and play a few simple passes, “if you build it they will come” (build play, goals will come..lol)

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  • donegalmag

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    Comment #26

    Sorry; On Cisse,

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  • WWSBRD

    Dec 2, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    Comment #27

    If the players who are “knocking on the door” had done anything of note this season they’d be on the pitch not the bench. HBA is lazy, Cisse is stunningly bad, Saylor is a complete idiot and Marv is soft all of these players are technically better than the lad occupying the slot in our starting 11 currently (with the exception of Marv imo) but they haven’t earned that praise this season or arguably last

    Tough luck on them they want back in the team work harder

    One exception to this is Mbwia who was dropped for a want away captain which I personally disagree with

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  • 70TWO

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Comment #28

    donegalmag
    Would you advise that same need for patience and reintegration for HBA, as he is also a forward who could do with being given some game time and not at the back end of matches. To be clear, I would not have them both on at the same time.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    Comment #29

    Ian…a good thing then I know when to move on wouldn’t you say 😉

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #30

    WWSBRD
    🙂

    Jesper
    Your right i must of completley missed your point, I thought your point was he doesn’t use the depth of the squad enough, but it can’t be that as we currently have/had Tiote HBA Anita Cisse being rotated through the squad and introduced Sissoko MYM Williamson Gouffran and Shola as key players, all by “keeping things fresh”
    Don’t see how it can now be stale after a four game win streak with only 2 goals conceded
    As for captain’s leading by example, you’ve named two players who have actively seeked transfers……..

    Btw this is not shooting anyone down, it’s debating a point, it’s been going on all day

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    Comment #31

    Apparently Ze German’s in training with the national team practice there sprints with these many parachutes on!

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Comment #32

    …seems we just disagree then! Good thing we got that sorted! Shall we move on then?

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  • Ian Toon

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Comment #33

    WWSBRD- Pre Hull HBA had made a worthwhile contribution.
    But you have omitted Anita who arguably is versatile enough and has performed well when called upon!!

    But parallels cannot be drawn from our involvement in the Europa where it was anticipated that a number of players would advance their
    cause. Only to under perform which put additional pressure on the pre January squad. We are in a good place and have some very real contenders for starting spots in December with the number of games.

    For me Taylor and HBA have a lot to prove !,

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  • t00ntime

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Comment #34

    One thing I never understood about AP, he always says if you play well you’ll stay in the team. Fair enough.
    But if they play bad them seem to keep their place till injury :S
    Jonas last season could not be dropped until this season when he got injured. I cant remember him ever playing better than our other wingers yet always got a spot.
    Now Colo came in (cause of debuchys red) plays bad, keeps his place… last 2 games he has been nowhere near Mbiwas quality as of late. He shouldnt be in the first 11 and Tiote should be captain.

    Am I being dumb or does AP reward good play but not punish bad?

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #35

    WWSBRD
    I think Taylor needs to knuckle down if he’s to have a future at the club because Willo is leaving the lad for dead
    Can’t understand why he’s not had a couple of reserve games to at least prove his fitness (ego?)
    HBA has a hell of a lot of work to do, people talk about him not doing enough defensively, fair enough, but for me he doesn’t do enough going forward either, look at the way Gouff and Socks are playing, neither are natural wide players but are doing a much more effective job than the him

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  • Ian Toon

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Comment #36

    Jesper- It’s not always possible to liberate yourself from mindsets that limit your prospects, and rejuvenate the way you view things. That’s my excuse and I stand by it. Being obstinate doesn’t help mind-LOL

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #37

    t00ntime…I guess there are two sides of that argument, but I definitely get what you are saying.

    Personally I don’t think a players should keep his place just because he plays well. You would want a squad of 20 so players all on form mounting a challenge for a spot – every game are different and sometimes you need to change it up a bit.

    Even certain players go better together than others. For me bringing Colo back into the team it not just about form – there’s alot more to it I think.

    You mentioned Jones earlier and I get your point – last season I thought one of the main reasons why we underperformed so badly was because Pardew kept faith in Tiote for so long when he was having the worse possible season you could hope for.

    The whole team was a mess because the midfield was a shamble (of course there was other reasons as well and some just added to each other). Never the less it is good to see Tiote on form again and not surprisingly are we playing better as a team 🙂

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Comment #38

    Ian…it’s the paradox of either having a young mindset or an old mindset 😉

    …sometimes you meet people who just think they are right and everyone else are wrong!

    A few days ago I asked someone on here if he ever found himself stepping a few steps back asking himself if he was maybe wrong. Could things be perceived differently?

    But maybe one should stick to one’s own class? Maybe that just works better…I don’t know 😉

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  • t00ntime

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #39

    @Jesper I agree with you on Tiote, AP stuck with him and luckily has gamble payed off after a long time lol.

    Not sure what Colo has brought to the table in the last 2 games that Mbiwa didn’t in the 2 before. We got lucky vs Spurs but 2 clean sheets without Colo and 0 with Colo agains ‘easier’ teams :S.

    But by the sounds of it AP will mix and match over the chirstmas period so hopefully our benched players can step up and make the selection even harder. Who knows we might see a change or 2 vs Swansea considering how much AP hates midweek games.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #40

    t00ntime…I really hope AP will start to mix it up a little bit, because at some point we will start to loose – that’s just the way it is and that’s not really a problem.

    I am just a bit wary about how we will cope. We have about 23 players or so and only half of them are getting game time – it is not easy being out of form or lack confidence but we need to utilize our depth better if we are to maintain our winning form.

    That’s my opinion anyway 🙂

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