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Four Things We Learned About Newcastle Yesterday

4:03 pm, Sunday, December 15th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 72 Comments

Newcastle were not at their best yesterday afternoon against a good Southampton side, especially up front, and we failed to get the win that we achieved against the Saints in this game last season.

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Mathieu Debuchy in action yesterday
Here are four things that we learned yesterday:

  • Vurnon Anita came in for the suspended Yohan Cabaye, and he had an excellent game for Newcastle, even though the side missed the creativity of Yohan in the middle of the pitch. Vurnon has been in excellent form this season for the Magpies, and even though he’s finding it difficult to get a starting place, when he does come in he puts in some fine performances for the side, and he’s made 15 appearances so far this season.
  • Vurnon is second in our Man of the Match voting behind only Mathieu Debuchy, who has 33% of the vote compared to 25% for Vurnon, and the French International has been terrific for Newcastle this season, and is fast becoming one of the best right backs in the Premier League.
  • Loic Remy missed two (very) easy chances for Newcastle yesterday, so at least he’s proved he’s human, but if Loic had been in his usual sharp form in front of goal yesterday Newcastle would surely have wrapped up all 3 points, but the game has to be looked on as 2 points lost yesterday – and now we need a win at Crystal Palace next Saturday – which will not be easy.
  • Yoan Gouffran scored again for Newcastle yesterday, and he took his chance very well, and that’s now six goals this season, only two goals behind Loic Remy. This lad has been an outstanding acquisition for the club, and after the game he said he just loves scoring at St. James’ Park because of the great fans and the reaction  he gets from scoring – keep it up Yoan – you’ve been great for Newcastle  this season

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72 responses so far ↓

  • 1 G // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    One thing I learned about Newcastle yesterday, is remembering a time not very long ago where a draw felt like a point gained. Now it feels like 2 dropped again. Seems a long time since I felt that way.

  • 2 Ancientcoptic // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Isn’t is strange how the competition for places has led to less injuries… surely just a coincedence.

  • 3 Ancientcoptic // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    ^*it*

    Sounds like Spurs are for the sword today. :)

  • 4 70TWO // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    It is more than 2 points dropped, it is the giving away possession at home to a side we should be overwhelming that gets my goat.

  • 5 JackButler // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Anita is a really classy player, he plays everything quickly and keeps it simple and along with Gouffran they have both established themselves as very, very important players for us.

    I hope AVB kept the receipt for the 100+ million pounds worth of players he bought in the summer as at this point in time they are being run ragged by Liverpool

  • 6 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Jack
    0-2
    AVB will be getting the sac tonight

  • 7 JackButler // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Liverpool 2-0 up and it could and should be a lot more as they are battering a very average Spurs side

  • 8 JackButler // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Charlie in the Gallowgate

    they have a brilliant striker in Soldado who gets zero service as they have no creativity in their side

  • 9 Rotonda heights // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Just thinking about any possible assault on the top 5, I think our biggest problem that would count against us is goal difference and the lack of goals scored by us.

    Everton, city, Liverpool and Arsenal regularly score 3 or more per match but we struggle to ever got beyond 2 absolute maximum. GD is as good as a place lower.

    We had a lovely 1 touch passing move and a great run by Anita yesterday but the aforementioned teams come at you in wave after wave for the full 90 mins much as Liverpool are doing right now, never closing up shop or sitting on 1-0 leads. I think this is still the improving Pardew’s biggest problem – fear !!

  • 10 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Think we should make a bid for Eriksen and Vertonghen in jan.

  • 11 OhSholaAmeobi // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Personally i thought Anita was pretty poor.

  • 12 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 15, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Anita was awesome yesterday. He should start every week.

  • 13 SuperShearer // Dec 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Ahh Kets, I sometimes come on this blog just to read your posts and try and guess what you’ve been smoking.

  • 14 G // Dec 15, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Anita was very good yesterday, however, there wasn’t much creativity going on in midfield. Cabaye was a big miss yesterday.

  • 15 Douglas // Dec 15, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    I think what yesterday showed, as in most games, we are not significantly different (better) than the middle of the league group. We are not capable of scoring enough goals. We need another Remy (Cissee?) and a good wide man (at least). I must say however that We’re doing OK this season, so I’m not complaining but with a bit of investment we could get into 6th place.

  • 16 Graeme // Dec 15, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Anita was superb yesterday, very easy on the eye; always finding space.

    My biggest gripe yesterday was the constant sitting back, allowing opponents at SJP to have over 60% possession is nothing short of criminal. How do you expect to win when the oposition team has twice as much of the ball as we do.

    Even at basic schoolboy level, the truth is the same – if you dont have the ball, you cant score goals. If you dont score goals, you dont win matches – it really is that simple.

  • 17 Graeme // Dec 15, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Spuds 0 – 3 Luckypoo

    AVB must be looking over his shoulder by now, they are being made to look a very ordinary team indeed.

  • 18 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE // Dec 15, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    douglas we are i believe in 6 th now. investment in jan may be good but we can still improve without it.i feel we are better to watch than the mid table sides we did better against lpool with ten men than spurs have with eleven.

  • 19 Graeme // Dec 15, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Spuds 0 – 5 Luckypoo.

    Spurs given a comprehensive thrashing, Suarez imperious for his hatrick.

  • 20 theartfuldodger // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Come the end of the season I think we will be fighting manu spurs and southampton for 6 to 8. Perhaps swansea can join in, but they are not doing too well.

  • 21 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Suarez is the best striker in world football IMO .

    Speaking of strikers, would anyone else take Benteke from Villa ? . His interest has dropped lately since his scoring drought and injury, but when he is on his game the guy is deadly .

  • 22 santonthenewmaldini // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Wow wonder what Spurs fans are saying after that? AVB could be out on his ear imagine with our scouting system if we had 100 million to spend??

  • 23 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    For me Erikksen and Paulinho are the only quality players they brought in, the rest are average .

  • 24 Cool Hand Luke // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Good to see Spurs loose ground on us, but its a double edged sword as there’s a huge gulf opening up between us and the 5 teams above us, Liverpool being one of them. Everton are only 4 points ahead but a GD of +13 compared to us is telling. Even Chelsea who are noted for winning by single goals are +15 compared to us.

  • 25 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    Looks like Spurs signed the wrong Spanish striker . Negredo looks twice the player Soldado is .

  • 26 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Spurs absolutely spanked!
    AVB next for the chopping block?

    BPC
    We already have a deadly on his day CF, Cisse
    But think Benteke is probably more suited to us be a massive shola upgrade

  • 27 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    @ tads

    Yeah I just think Benteke gives you more in his all round game like running the channels and roughing up CB’s .

    I would get rid of Cisse ASAP as he just doesn’t seem to care anymore .

  • 28 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    one of the points i noticed about the last few matches is how well we are prepared.we look fit ,and whoever is doing the background checks on the opposition and working it out with the management deserves congratulating imo.from various reports r taylor joking here have .we now seem to be planning better at how to beat teams rather than just as last year coping with the opposition and hoping for a win.

  • 29 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    Santon
    Have a lot of mates who support spuds, believe me they want him gone, they hate the way he sets the team up, too narrow and hated the fact they played 2 holding midfielders against “a small club like Newcastle”!

  • 30 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    BPC
    True, plus Benteke is bloody quick for a big lad, but wonder how much Villa’s £20 mil valuation would of dropped by now?

  • 31 bills-son // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Nightmare for Spurs. If they sack AVB a new manager can disown the new signings in the same way Rogers did with AC. This could cost Spurs big time.

  • 32 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    @ Tads

    I wouldn’t offer them anymore than 10 million .

    In an ideal transfer window :

    In: Remy (Permenant) , Benteke & Young hungry striker that wants to impress (like Deolofeu at Everton) .

    Out – Cisse, Shola to run out his contract .

    That leaves us with :

    -Remy-Benteke-Gouffran-?-

  • 33 Newcastleforlife // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    benteke would be a great signing.. but he is still out of our radar…
    I would like us to get rid of cisse as he is nt pardews cup of tea…

    Bye bye AVB… WELCOM E lAUDRUP…

  • 34 Cool Hand Luke // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE It seemed as if Pardew instructed the front men to put pressure on their keeper, considering his age and inexperience, it almost paid off too.

  • 35 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Also is it too early to say Gouffran bargain of the season although we bought him in January ? .

    Bearing in mind he plays out wide for us as well .

  • 36 OhSholaAmeobi // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Fun Fact of the Day:
    We’ve scored the 8th most goals in the league (21) and conceded joint 4th most with Cardiff & West Brom (22) although 4 more sides have conceded more, in 16 league games.

    City and Liverpool have scored way more than anybody else (47 & 39 respectively) but the most telling stat is that Everton and Southampton have conceded the joint least (15) which is the foundation of their so-far successful seasons.

  • 37 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    BPC
    Not to early at all, the bloke was an absolute bargain and has all the characteristics to be a firm fan favourite for years to come
    He’s quick, great with the ball at his feet, hard working, humble and happy to play where ever is best for the team

  • 38 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    I think Anita has played well and have been thinking about how we can get him into our team but keep the rigidity of a 4-4-2 . Does anyone think this 4-1-4-1 would work ? :

    —————————–Krul—————————-

    –Debuchy——–Willo——–M’biwa——–Santon–

    —————————–Tiote—————————–

    –Sissoko——–Cabaye———Anita——–Gouffran–

    —————————–Remy—————————–

  • 39 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    I think we can lure Benteke. He’ll fit in well with the french speaking players. £18m would be a good coup.

  • 40 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    Don’t understand the talk of Saylor going out on loan when we only have 4 centre backs. We still need to strengthen in that department.

  • 41 Blackley and Brownlie // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Pardew confirmed that he is the tinkerman. As usual it is going great until he takes off the big target man on the hour and it changes the whole dynamic.

  • 42 Oh Gino // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    Big papa cisse. Sissoko out, HBA in

  • 43 santonthenewmaldini // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    @kets

    Would love Benteke to replace Shola we would totally be able to batter them

    Would be decent for Taylor to go out on loan even for a few games with an instant recall if we get injuries because lets be honest the guy is never fit and is always rusty so it would be good for him to come into the team match fit for once in his career saying that I dont see Iron Mike getting injured anytime soon and Colo and Mbiwa will most likely be available for a while now so he could be warming the bench for a good while

  • 44 santonthenewmaldini // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Meant to say teams instead of “them”

  • 45 Blackley and Brownlie // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    Good to see willo (the other guy as pardew once referred to him) return from the wilderness out of necessity to become a real asset.

  • 46 santonthenewmaldini // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Also it says on Sky Sports that we even contemplate selling Saylor in January ! YES PLEASE! He is on good wages and we could try get a defender who can defend and who can play more than 10 games a season forget about giving him a new contract

  • 47 gazzaforever // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    Big papa cisse, i’m a bit surprised that you didnt put Benny in your lineup, to say the least.

  • 48 Rotonda heights // Dec 15, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Not sure why anyone wants to finish outside the top 5 unless we highly unlikely win the FA cup. You get nothing for finishing 6th so a whole season coming close but with nothing to show for it

  • 49 Toonfan8 // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Benteke would be best choice for CF, but will Ashley spend that much money on one player? I would love to see Benteke here, strong, pacey, big lad…ideal replace for Shola…team with him look very strong on paper with lot of goals
    debuchy,willo,mbiwa,santon
    …………tiote…….cabaye
    sissoko………………….gouffran
    ………..remy………benteke

    very strong bench….with collo,haidara,anita,hba,shola,saylor
    i hope cisse is out in january, as he looks like he is absolutely lost

  • 50 Rotonda heights // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    I would be delighted to see the back of Saylor. A great player in his head only. I’m still really annoyed MYM was dropped for Colo. Maybe his pace could have stopped Soton’s goal yesterday. Pardew still hasn’t properly explained why MYM was dropped other than saying he was unlucky!!

  • 51 santonthenewmaldini // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    @Rotonda

    Mbiwa should never have been dropped who knows we may have beat Swansea as well with him in the team as it would allow us to play a higher line sad thing is he probably wont get his game until Willo gets injured/suspended or makes a mistake Colo will never be dropped under Pardew

  • 52 Himanshu Dhingra // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    Get de jong brothers.

    Paulinho from livorno is a good option.

  • 53 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Ben Arfa needs to get his fitness levels up to par before he gets into the first team IMO .

  • 54 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Gourcuff, Ba, Benteke, Remy and Alderweireld would be great signings.

  • 55 JackButler // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Michael Laudrup is 6/1 fav to be next Spurs manager, with AVB at odds of 5/4 to be next PL manager to go

  • 56 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    Can’t criticise Mike Williamson at the moment. He’s done his job well. We still need to strengthen though as he’s liable to make mistakes.

  • 57 70TWO // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Big Pappa Cissé

    Whats up with the 4231 we played against MU with the same players? There was a balance between attack and defense that we have not had previously (or since!). I think having 2 holding midfielders (Anita / Tiote) reduces the defensive responsibilty of the wide men and gives the full backs more opportunity to move forward.

    Against Southampton we essentially went back to the 442 that flopped against Swansea, so why does Pardew think it is a good idea to hand possession over at home to team we should be overwhelming? Plus Shola is not a creative central hub but a battering ram that grinds down defenders, so why ease off them by replacing him with Cisse?

  • 58 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    @ 70two

    4-4-2 Got us 4 wins in a row and is the only formation Pardew is comfortable with IMO.

    5 in midfield works away from home when set up to counter attack or against the bigger clubs, but at home we need more players to attack .

  • 59 cyprus // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Anita yesterday had a very good game and I think he will improve more. A very decent replacement to Cabs, he wasn’t missed.
    On a previous q., yes Ameobi has been great, but somehow Cisse must be given time. We paid big money for him, he may still produce the goods.
    Remy has been misfiring a bit, that’s a concern. Still, he’s lively elsewhere and I feel defenders fear him.
    On general tactics, it seems AP is getting a balance between carpet football and long balls, aggression and finesse. I’ve been critical so now it’s hats off. Like someone said, it feels like two points dropped, not long ago it was point gained.

  • 60 Blackley and Brownlie // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    I was at the game. We get caught offside too often because forwards are too slow in getting back onside, thinking its not going to come back so quick. The reason that santon played such a poxy ball for their goal was that he saw too many of our players in an offside position which limited his options. Unprofessional.

  • 61 cyprus // Dec 15, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Why do WBA pull the trigger so fast? Will AVB also be walking tonight? Two humiliations in quick succession for such an expensive team.

  • 62 AaranD // Dec 15, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    What has happened to Spurs, individually the players they bought are solid. They really just don’t fit the AVB style. Think he’s been screwed by Baldini picking and buying the players and if that’s the case it’s a sorry state of affairs.

    Hope Big Joe listens to Carr and Pardew before he jets out to get ‘signings over the line’…

  • 63 Krul To Be Kind // Dec 15, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    anyone else think the Spurs demise and the Europa league games and time to settle in for new and integral players is similar to our issues last season.

    Swansea in a similar situation?

  • 64 Ben3arfa // Dec 15, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    Imagine if Spurs sack AVB and come in for Pardew … lol

  • 65 AaranD // Dec 15, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Krul to be Kind

    It may be a factor, but I don’t believe in the whole we are tired from 2 games in a week. Only really viable if its a long distance trip. But Europe in general is tough on teams not used to it or geared for it and it’s shown with us and Swansea. Where as Spurs are simply missing Bale, he won so many games for them and the new players just aren’t gelling at all.

  • 66 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 15, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    Steven Taylor would be a good signing for Man Utd on loan.

  • 67 Graeme // Dec 15, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    Kets, that really appeals to my sense of humour, nice one. lol

  • 68 Toon Tang // Dec 15, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    young flanagan will be able to get a full face transplant with his score/win bonus

  • 69 wolfshead@toon // Dec 15, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    1 thing cisse can learn from suarez make your own chances by grafting

  • 70 Brutooon // Dec 15, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Anita is a good player but when he is side to side with otber player he will lose 95% of the battle

    Remy got one bad game, not a bad season

    Cisse 100% totally forget how to be a footballer

  • 71 Ancientcoptic // Dec 15, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    Spurs you would need to be hard up to want Laudrup.

    6 wins in his last 26 Premier League games — I cannot understand how a manager with stats like that can be in demand.

    I do not think AVB has had control of transfers at Tottenham… he got the best out of Bale and the club cashed in a huge amount… then he gets a load of bad buys dumped on him, and gets the blame.

    It goes right back to Adebayor being signed, AVB wanted Moutinho, and did not appear to rate Adebayor; although he always protects his players is public.

    I admire the ambition Tottenham have shown, but switching AVB for Laudrup sounds like a move to put Tottenham back to where they were before Redknapp arrived.

  • 72 lesh // Dec 15, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    It used to be that when Southampton came to SJP, we were guaranteed goals, so many you’d need to take a Marks and Spence’s bag to take them home!




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