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Newcastle Second Most Profitable Club In Premier League

2:26 pm, Wednesday, December 18th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 13 Comments

The Financial Fair Play web-site has published an interesting table today, that lists the profit and loss of each of the Premier League clubs over the last two seasons we have records for, and then calculates how much extra each fan would need to pay for their tickets – if only ticket prices were used to make up any loss.

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Mike Ashley – good control of Newcastle expenses
Now to spend some of those big profits that are coming


This is a bit of a strange way of analyzing the data, since there are other revenues coming into the club which are much larger than what each club gets in ticket sales.

And for instance next May, each PL club will get between £60M and £100M depending on where they finish in the league table – and how many times they appear live on TV, among other things – and that’s a big increase on what clubs got last season – which was between £40M and £60M.

This is the table that the Financial Fair Play web-site has published:

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It’s pointed out that Newcastle’s huge profit of £33M in 2010-2011 was due almost entirely to the sale of Andy Carroll to Liverpool for a gigantic £35M.

So the Tyneside club must still control their costs to keep breaking even or make  a profit – although the new Premier League revenues, which is an average of £30M more than Premier League  clubs got last season will certainly help – in fact it will help an awful lot.

Newcastle have based their strategies over the last six years to a large extent on the way Arsenal run their club, and there’s little doubt the London club are the best run club in the land, so the fact that Newcastle are second to the Gunners in profits over the last two season bodes  well financially for Newcastle.

And it also bodes well for the Newcastle’s future, and now we have to get Mike Ashley to spend some of the big profits Newcastle should be getting from now on – based on the new Premier League TV deal – and things on the financial side could certainly be a lot worse at Newcastle – that’s  for sure.

And finally, notice how Manchester City are at the top of the loss league above, and have in fact lost £296M over the last two seasons, and Liverpool are second at £90M, so they are spending money the just don’t have.

Wonder what happened to the Financial Fair Play Rules, which as far as we can tell are having very little effect on curbing clubs from spending money they don’t have.

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13 responses so far ↓

  • 1 G // Dec 18, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Do we qualify for the Europa league from this then? No? Do we really care then. Doesn’t look like the football authorities are going to be able to enforce them anyway, which is a shame. It would have been a great leveller.

  • 2 martoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    So according to that table only Man U and Arsenal would have been allowed in the CL this year if FFP had been in force – when is it supposed to come into effect? Also I wonder how Arsenals accounts will look this year with their purchase of Ozil?

  • 3 Bearsize // Dec 18, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Well with psg and monaco now able to compete financially, mr platini might just let this ffp thing just drift away and hope we all forget about it. Which unfortunatly looks plausible!

  • 4 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    martoon

    As with Bale at madrid there are so many loopholes.

    As he signed a six year contract they can spread the fee over the 6 years for purpose of FFP. So only need to make up for 13/14 mil a year, which is nothing when set against their income.

    Also FFP is stupid as a system anyway, means only already rich clubs can spend whilst others can’t. I for one like we now have chelsea and city up there with liverpool, man utd and arsenal.

    There would be a better system like salary cap (for a squad not individual) , max transfer budget, etc…thats a proper leveller.

  • 5 estechco // Dec 18, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    FSB’s at it again…

    http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier-league-news/37394-liverpool-rodgers-wants-newcastle-star.php#.UrHB9vRdW7E

  • 6 ethiomag // Dec 18, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    great i think MA should stay until pardew’s contract expire

  • 7 martoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Transfer Sage – I agree there should be a transfer cap i.e. net spend per season including wages. This would be much simpler to understand and police. It would favour the rich clubs to start with who could sell expensive players to buy others but eventually it would even out after a few years.

  • 8 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Lets not get carried away this is totally dead information. It means effectively nothing to anyone.

    why on earth anyone took the time to put that table together is beyond me. Its like looking at Supermarket accounts based purely on sales of Bread.

    As has been mentioned minus the andy Carroll sale we would be -£1m on this table anyway! Its more of an illustration of which teams are disgustingly reckless with their money

  • 9 Hatem's better than Messi // Dec 18, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    We never win fookin’ anything.

    Can’t even come first in balance sheet competition.

    Ashley Out!

  • 10 Hatem's better than Messi // Dec 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    We never win anything.

    Can’t even come first in balance sheet competition.

    Ashley Out!

  • 11 Hatem's better than Messi // Dec 18, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    A true salary cap would change the game completely.
    Squads would be a lot smaller. As quality over quantity would be most club’s route.

    Who could afford huge squads for rotation policies?
    Teams in Europe would be at a huge disadvantage. So it would act as a handicap. Pardew would be right to moan!

    Player’s would play more.
    Injured players would play more.
    The quality of football would go down.

    Would SKY/BT pay so much if the money wasn’t being invested in the squads?

  • 12 swemag // Dec 18, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    I live in Canada and follow the NHL.

    With salary cap and so on it is a different story altogether.

    There are some big differences in how the leagues are run in Europe and over here. First of all the leagues here are private and not associated with any national association of the sport. To join the league a team basically buys a spot.

    The league itself, at least the NHL has the goal of expanding and reaching a bigger audience by moving to new markets and letting more teams join the league. To be able to do this there is a profit share scheme where the richer clubs shares their profits with smaller teams for them to be able to compete and make the teams in these expansion markets more viable.

    I live in Montreal which is one of the three main markets for Hockey together with New York and Toronto. I can tell you that it kind of sucks that the money that I pay for a ticket here, which can be somewhere in the region of 100 pounds goes to subsidizing a team in Phoenix in the middle of the dessert where no one gives a fusk about hockey.

    So, what does this have to do with the Premier League and salary caps?

    Well, if we have salary caps, then what is Man Utd going to do with all the money that they are generating? One could say that it is the players that are the main asset to generate these revenues. But they cannot earn anymore. So all that money goes straight into the pocket of the owner.

    Money to the owner or money to the players? Open market or closed market?

    I prefer the open market for sure. It is not that someone is worth 200.000 pounds a week, however, as they are the main asset in generatinjg all that cash they can ask for that kind of money. That is free market.

    I take it for granted that you understand that I am not in favour of any sort of revenue sharing schemes, anyway, not more than we already have with the TV money. I don’t want that the money that is generated by me buying a toon jersey should go to sponsor Crystal Palace to build a more competitive team to make the league more interesting. No, no and no.

    Can you imagine Crystal Palace winning the league because most of the money they generated came from the Man Utd and Arsenal. I bet Man Utd and Arsenal fans would be really excited about that prospect. This is something that is completely possible over here.

    Financial fair play yes, closed leagues, salary caps and profit sharing, no thank you.

    Europe has a lot of good things going for it, lets keep it that way.

  • 13 The next Mike Williamson // Dec 19, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Something has to be done. At the current rate Man City are becoming impossible to compete against. They don’t deserve any of their success. People say that Man U spend lots, but they have got where they are through 50 years of doing well and by the hard work of Ferguson.

    As it is now, if Newcastle somehow topped the league at January, Man City & Chelsea would buy our 2-3 best players to use as substitutes. They need to be banned from Europe and have points deducted. Personally I’d relegate all teams that blatantly cheat. They are taking the Sport out of football.

    Also – how the hell are Villa & West Ham doing so bad financially. They’ll be going bust soon as might Sunderland, Stoke & QPR




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