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Two Strikers Have Over Half Of Newcastle’s Goals

9:21 am, Wednesday, December 18th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 70 Comments

With Yoan Gouffran playing so well we now have a winger who can scores goals and the Frenchman now has six goals this season, and only two behind leading goalscorer Loic Remy.

coloccini remy anita

Loic Remy – he scored again

But when you look at the Newcastle goalscorers this season Remy and Gouffran have 14 of the 25 goals Newcastle have scored in all competitions – that’s 56% and Loic has scored 32% – just less than a third – of Newcastle’s goals this season.

PlayerLeagueCupsTotal
Cisse707
Perez404
Riviere022
Sissoko112
Aarons112
Williamson101
Janmaat101
Obertan101
Ameobi101
Dummett011
Coloccini101

Alan Pardew thinks Newcastle are not reliant too much on Remy, and the manager said this on BBC Newcastle today:

“We spread the goals around reasonably well, but it would be nice to have goals from all sorts of areas of the pitch.”  “But I don’t think we are over-reliant on Remy.”

“The next game is Crystal Palace away and I would like to think we could win that.”

Newcastle are currently in 6th place and rose one place last weekend, mainly due to Tottenham being hammered 5-0 at home by Liverpool, which ended up being the last game in charge by Portuguese manager Andres Villas-Boas.

Newcastle have 27 points and are level on points with Spurs, but are 4 points behind Everton in 5th place, so even with a win we will not improve our position in the league table by Saturday night.

But the lads need to get back to their winning ways at Selhurst Park on Saturday afternoon, and be a lot sharper in front of goal than we were last Saturday – that’s for sure.

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70 responses so far ↓

  • 1 valle // Dec 18, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Charlie… In response to your post on the other thread. I agree, on current form there can be no argument on that.

  • 2 G // Dec 18, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    People talk a lot about bids having to be fought off for Cabaye in Jan. I worry about bids for Gouffran. Haven’t seen him linked with anybody, but I do suspect that many clubs will have had him watched. Not bad for a player I tipped to be a spectacular failure for us. I love eating my words in that manner though.

  • 3 Himanshu Dhingra // Dec 18, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Yes Alan,

    we could do with a goal with your favorite player. Last Pl goal 20th Dec 2012.

    Can see alan Pardew giving him a new contract till eternity

  • 4 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 18, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    Valle
    Add to that, not that I have seen all the rest of the English central defenders playing at the minute.
    But
    Is there a English Central defender playing better than ‘Iron Mike’ at the minute ????

  • 5 G // Dec 18, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    @4, according to Opta, no there isn’t. I posted yesterday that a Manyoo fan I know suggested he makes the England team. Whilst I don’t see him as an international CB, it’s hard to disagree that he doesn’t deserve the opportunity.

  • 6 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 18, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    G
    Thought as much
    You don’t have to be the most talented footballer in the World.
    Iron Mike knows his limitations – not the best ball player, keeps it simple, passes it when has to, get rid of it when has to, good in the air and attacks the ball.
    An OLD fashioned style centre back

  • 7 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Does Pardew want Tiote to keep blasting the ball, or not as he has said previously?

    More goals would be great, more goal scorers is secondary.

  • 8 martoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    I’ve always liked Willo – a no nonsense defender and he actually reads the game quite well with some timely interceptions. However I have to say an England call up is maybe pushing it too far, maybe, in one of the friendlies but I can’t see him going to Brazil.

  • 9 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    The performance rating of any player, be that Willo or another, will always rise if they do what they are good at for the majority of the time and leave the rest to someone else. This is why todays ‘press release’ is slightly miss leading, if a player has the option of supplying the striker with the opportunity to score or having a go themselves, what should they do?

  • 10 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    martoon
    not a bad idea giving him a game in a friendly.

  • 11 midweek weekend // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    First proper comment, I’m fairly happy with how our season is currently going, but one thing that seriously concerns me is cisse, I just can’t work him out every time he gets subed on hes offside and just looks totally ineffective such a shame really I want him to get 1 or 2 few games soon other wise I fear that could be the end for him.

    I’m guessing we’ll sign that gomis sometime in January so cisse is running out of time to sort himself out. It’s now or never for cisse.

  • 12 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    Good article on midfield:

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/dec/18/question-holding-midfielders-changing-role

  • 13 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    midweek weekend

    Cisse would appear to be the type of player that needs games and 90 minutes to get his form back. Unfortunately the rare times he gets on the pitch he is still making basic mistakes. Which would suggest if he can not rectify getting the basics right, he is surplus to requirements. However to counter that, he has been adjudged to be offside in recent games and later shown to be level, so a little unlucky and reputation proceeding him.

  • 14 midweek weekend // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    70two

    Yeah I agree, he can perhaps get a goal or two to get him going he might regain some of that confidence he had when he first signed for us, still think next few weeks are big for him with potential new striker coming in.

  • 15 LEROI // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Sometimes its like cisse has forgot how to play football full stop. African players are usually full of skill and always have a trick up there sleeves when they get the ball like yaya toure & michael essien but cisse has little ball control never mind skill & his goal scoring hid this from us but now the goals have dried up so has his usefulness to our team.

  • 16 valle // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Charlie… True, he might actually be the best English defender stat wise at the minute. He is still prone to just howling the ball away, even when he aint under any real pressure, and that can hamper the playing style of his team, so style might come into thinking if you have enough players to chose from. Which I believe Roy does. Ashey Williams would probably be my first choice for central defense alongside Lescott.

  • 17 LEROI // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    How much time can we give him all he’s doing at the minute is wasting our time. bloggers have been say week after week month after month he just needs a goal to get his confidence back but isn’t good enough to score one at this point in time, maybe in the distant future he’ll regain the catch 22 goals means confidence but confidence equal goals aswell.

  • 18 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    LEROI

    The game does tend to happen around Cisse, he does not contribute much to general play and is slightly one dimensional. At the moment his raison d’être has escaped him and only he knows how to get it back. Unfortunately with the lack of local reporting, we are not able to find out if he is putting in the extra training and from the outside it looks like he is not.

  • 19 Tommyy // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Valle I’d also take Bale up top with Rooney if we’re selecting Welsh players! Good defender though no doubt.

  • 20 martoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Cisse needs games and a few years ago we could have played him in reserve games to build up his confidence. However today we only have the under 21’s and although overage players are allowed it seems to be regarded as an insult to put a first team player in however I think it is what he needs.

  • 21 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    In an ideal world the article title would read ‘Four strikers have 90% of goals’ and we would be well in the positive for goal difference. Whether this is due to the balance of our play being more defensive, the form of our strikers or a combination of both, would produce a debate in terms of finding the solution.

  • 22 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    martoon

    Thank you slightly lost my train of thought. Like the potential of Taylor going out on loan, the solution for Cisse may also to go on loan for a month or so. How quickly a team can absorb these players is difficult to know but it is all about the game time.

  • 23 valle // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Tommyy… Hmm, didnt realize he was Welsh. My point about technique still stands though.

  • 24 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    “Everton a loan haven, say Martínez”

    I thought that was us…..or is that Wonga heaven?

  • 25 valle // Dec 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    And to add to that… No point being a dick about it, it may come back to bite your ass if you pick up on other peoples mistakes like that.

  • 26 Yohan Kebab // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    70TWO that indeed is a good article, enjoyed reading

  • 27 Tommyy // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Valle how about you take off your paranoia hat of utter weediness, in what way was that being a dick? I agreed he’s a top defender. Jesus some people are beyond pathetic.

  • 28 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Yohan Kebab

    A previous article by Jonathon Wilson has a similar theme that has now evolved but still might be of interest.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/oct/24/formations-tactics-manchester-city

  • 29 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    To fill our quota of loanees (4) how about the following:
    Ince
    Zaha
    de Bruyne

    and going out:
    Saylor
    Cisse
    HBA

  • 30 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Tommyy,

    I feel like i have been on the weed what with talk of taylor and Willo as england candidates! we need to behave!

    Regarding cisse i really feel for him, he’s getting some serious stick at the moment but last season he had so many goals wrongly chalked off (7 or 8?) which would have made his total for the season pretty respectable given our terrible form & lack of creativity.

    Similarly he came on against norwich banged the ball in the net with real composure and I think that was a bad call of offside too. Level imo, the striker is “supposed” to get the benefit of the doubt afterall.

    He gets so much stick for being offside all the time but hes a poacher thats what they do. He hasn’t got the pace of remy to just burn defenders from 5 yards behind them. I think the real problem is the lack of creativity (which is getting better slowly).

    We have cabaye, remy, benny and tiote! all trying to score individual goals and long range efforts regualarly. This should always be a secondary thought after (is there a pass on). Sadly cabaye in particular for me is letting us down, he is our “creative” midfielder yet he shoots far too much in good positions.

    Although a controversial view i prefer anita, He is composed and shifts the ball quickly. He looks for lots of 1-2’s and has the feet to take players out of the game. His passing range may not be as good as cabayes but he makes things happen more.

    If we could move cabaye on for £15m plus and get in a “real” no 10. Somebody who is unselfish and always looks for the ball, willing to be the hub of our attacks and more importantly be a provider and not somebody looking for glory (otherwise benny could be the candidate). I think thats what we need more than a striker or cb. Cisse would be lethal if he had the service. Sorry for the essay!

  • 31 valle // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Tommyy… Well you were being a bit of a dick with the way you pointed it out, if you cant see that yourself, then so be it. Im not going into an argument over the internet, so thats that as far as I am concerned.

  • 32 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Seasonal Greetings Solano- you’ve still got to put a lot of work in to get your apprentices being worthwhile contributors on here.
    Hope your fighting fit! From the sublime to the ridiculous.

    There’s nothing wrong with contentious comment , everything is at least as unfair as you think it is – you can reasonably discount most people’s opinion. Simply because most tailor their perception to fit their beliefs rather than the other way around.

    15Ian Toon // May 30, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Solano- you have been known to re-write history. We don’t always, as fans tell it as it was! Ashley’s early tenure was an unmitigated disaster when Fat Sam was the manager. We saw the very worst excesses in terms of last pay day signings and huge wages which we’ve only just got off the books. The Xisco, Smith , Wise and Gonzales era along with the whole sorry saga of hiring and firing of managers. A bitter lesson but he did learn and he became suspicious of the transfer market and the damage it could cause. The appointment of Carr was inspired to manage the purloining of players. The question is does this transparent activity have a shelf life?
    Any serious plan takes time to come together. Do you really believe he’s just winging it? For me I see Llambias as being an absolute clown who couldn’t negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag. What a gulf in class, integrity and competence he is from Chris Mort. Just compare him with the chief executives / Managing Directors of the rest of PL clubs. So not everything is as we would like! Clearly success in all aspects would be CL football and were some way from achieving that.
    A massive opportunity was spurned last summer towards that goal but
    are we really in a worse position given the subsequent signings in January. My experience of players is that they get mindsets
    and felt as let down as the toon fan. I know you prefer being miserable but are we really incapable of starting back towards the top of the league. I was getting a stiff neck looking down this past season.

    15Ian Toon // May 30, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Solano- you have been known to re-write history. We don’t always, as fans tell it as it was! Ashley’s early tenure was an unmitigated disaster when Fat Sam was the manager. We saw the very worst excesses in terms of last pay day signings and huge wages which we’ve only just got off the books. The Xisco, Smith , Wise and Gonzales era along with the whole sorry saga of hiring and firing of managers. A bitter lesson but he did learn and he became suspicious of the transfer market and the damage it could cause. The appointment of Carr was inspired to manage the purloining of players. The question is does this transparent activity have a shelf life?
    Any serious plan takes time to come together. Do you really believe he’s just winging it? For me I see Llambias as being an absolute clown who couldn’t negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag. What a gulf in class, integrity and competence he is from Chris Mort. Just compare him with the chief executives / Managing Directors of the rest of PL clubs. So not everything is as we would like! Clearly success in all aspects would be CL football and were some way from achieving that.
    A massive opportunity was spurned last summer towards that goal but
    are we really in a worse position given the subsequent signings in January. My experience of players is that they get mindsets
    and felt as let down as the toon fan. I know you prefer being miserable but are we really incapable of starting back towards the top of the league. I was getting a stiff neck looking down this past season.

    Ian Toon // May 30, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Solano- We don’t always, as fans tell it as it was! Ashley’s early tenure was an unmitigated disaster when Fat Sam was the manager. We saw the very worst excesses in terms of last pay day signings and huge wages which we’ve only just got off the books. The Xisco, Smith , Wise and Gonzales era along with the whole sorry saga of hiring and firing of managers. A bitter lesson but he did learn and he became suspicious of the transfer market and the damage it could cause. The appointment of Carr was inspired to manage the purloining of players. The question is does this transparent activity have a shelf life?
    Any serious plan takes time to come together. Do you really believe he’s just winging it? For me I see Llambias as being an absolute clown who couldn’t negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag. What a gulf in class, integrity and competence he is from Chris Mort. Just compare him with the chief executives / Managing Directors of the rest of PL clubs. So not everything is as we would like! Clearly success in all aspects would be CL football and were some way from achieving that.
    A massive opportunity was spurned last summer towards that goal but
    are we really in a worse position given the subsequent signings in January. My experience of players is that they get mindsets
    and felt as let down as the toon fan. I know you prefer being miserable but are we really incapable of starting back towards the top of the league. I was getting a stiff neck looking down this past season.

  • 33 yo-yo // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    manxpie – previous

    Remember what they said would happen when Bosman came in ?
    This is the players union wanting to change the transfer system.

    If you read the article it says the only beneficiaries of the current transfer system are agents (kind hearted fellas with red hats and white beards) and very wealthy top ranking football clubs. – you know, relly nice guys like Tan and the oilygarchs…

    We have complained for a long time about buying success – like Citeh.. No transfer fees would level the playing field .. but… with the law of unintended consequences probably something equally bad would happen like players wages would go through the roof..so it isn’t a simple answer.

    What football needs is more grass roots up and with so much money at the top and football only the 4th main sport in the UK (after swimming, cycling and running) in numbers of players/participants and the national teams pretty rubbish then maybe some of the transfer money in youth development would do the trick. It’s a long term solution.It might work but then again it might not. If the transfer system is against the law on freedom of employment then it will need changing.

    If anyone is interested the players union want to abolish transfer fees and allow players even more freedom of movement between clubs.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25418135

    Interesting comments by Matt Slater on the setup in the USA.

  • 34 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    With apologies for repetition from the archives.

  • 35 martoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    cjtoon @30 – Sorry I can’t agree about Cabaye. His shooting is pretty good and when he has a ‘dig’ he is normally in a pretty good position to do so. He is the only player (apart from HBA) with a killer pass. Saturday’s game was a good example, Anita was neat and tidy but we never really carved Southampton open – our goal and Remy’s misses came from their mistakes.

  • 36 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    cjtoon

    Your right about Cisse, Saylor, Willo and a no.10.

    Of the player we have, I prefer an attacking midfielder in behind the striker but I don’t know who. I was glad to see Cabaye used, but he did not seem natural and has stated he prefers to be deeper. I would like Pardew to give him a few more games there as I think he could become a Beardsley with the ability to drop into defensive midfield positions also. The other options would be Sissoko who played there last season, but with (bad) Cisse in front of him it did not seem to work. Anita who I think has the ability to cover the fullbacks better, so I prefer deeper. Or HBA?

    A good quality signing for this position would be very good for the team regardless of any potential out going players.

  • 37 wolfshead@toon // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    suarez is a poacher too when was the last time he was caught offside and how many times has he had a ball put on a plate for him cisse is a luxury player he would prob thrive in another country best all round if he was sold

  • 38 wolfshead@toon // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    @32

    thats the worst spamming ive seen on here you should get a yellow for that haha

  • 39 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Wolf-…Coming from you I’ll take that as a compliment -LOL.

  • 40 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    yo-yo

    On first reading the article I thought that clubs actually buy out the contracts of players they want and it is the Contract that is the commodity rather than the actual human being. It is very difficult to imagine how the value of ‘players’ will be removed over night and club assets becoming worthless. At least we have an owner well versed in closing down sales.

  • 41 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Martoon,

    Im not saying we should play anita as a number 10 or that he is an overly creative player. Nor am i saying we should sell cabaye. Although for me he wastes the ball too much both with mis-placed over hit passes and too many long shots.

    Pardew is deploying him as our creative midfielder to make chances for others. Obviously he has a good shot on him but theres a time and a place. Im not saying he isnt a creative player or cant pick a pass, a couple of years ago he played an unbelievable pass to cisse against stoke! thats what he can do! (and what cisse thrives off) but he doesnt. I think hes more about goals this season and getting on the plane to rio.

    Regarding the soton game anita was involved in a great move with sissoko but remy overhit the final ball to sissoko and the chance was lost. Also anita wriggled through a heap of the players in the box but nobody gambled on him getting a cross in. Im not having an anita love in but he does things with one or two touches and keeps us and the ball moving i think we are more fluid with him in the team.

  • 42 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    martoon @35

    “our goal and Remy’s misses came from their mistakes”

    this is what Pardew should be looking at rectifying if he wants more goals.

  • 43 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    70two,

    I think our problem is that we are playing a formation where we require a CAM/No 10. and we dont have anyone for that role what you need is a david silva, lallana, mata type player who is the glue and just brings everyone else into play.

    Sissoko for me isnt a right winger or a cam, he is a powerhouse box to box midfielder that could be lethal on the break. Benny is a conundrum nobody can seem to work out. Undoubted ability but no inclination to defend which i would think means he would be great as a no 10. but even david silva tracks back! i would love to see him tried there and given a free reign behind remy/cisse but he would have to control himself and be a bit less selfish (which i think he could do). cabaye is a box to box creative midfielder too not a cam and not a deep lying playmaker (pirlo).

    For example assist wise this season Benny has 4, Cisse 3, Cabaye 3, sameobi 2, gouff 2, remy 2 in all comps.

    I think we just need a really unselfish creative player

  • 44 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    cjtoon @43

    Your summations of our player is fairly accurate and we do need that icing on the cake. I have a sneaking suspicion with us being linked to wingers Pardew may be looking to move Sissoko inside. In which case he could do that now with HBA or even Sammy on the wing. But instead he goes back to Shola…sigh.

  • 45 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Wolfshead: Comparing sauraz to cisse is not really the way to look at it.

    Firstly yes he is regularly offside 1.2 times per game last season – cisse 1.3 times per game – http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/3389/Stages/6531/PlayerStatistics/England-Premier-League-2012-2013

    Funnily enough this season luis saurez has been offside on avergae per game more than any other player 1.4 times per game with papiss cisse 0.7 times per game. – http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/3853/Stages/7794/PlayerStatistics/England-Premier-League-2013-2014

    That doesnt matter though its not about being offside or onside its about being provided the chances and suarez plays in a free flowing liverpool team that create chances for fun cisse on the other hand…

  • 46 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    What would you say to getting Kevin ‘baby face’ de Bruyne?

  • 47 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Also suarez has taken 6.2 shots per game in 11 appearances so 68 shots in 11 games! the next highest in the league is aguero with 4.1 per game. And people wonder why those two score the most goals!

  • 48 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    70TWO,

    I dont know i kind of think we need somebody who is more established/experienced. I think he is an undoubted talent but he hasn’t consistently played or performed. Obviously if he was available on the cheap then it would take the pressure off. I think the key thing is its not really about goals or assists its breaking down defences and taking opposition players out of the game. Whether thats with skill, a quick 1-2 or a brilliant through ball it doesnt matter. We need to attack with pace and purpose, quick passes and interchanges, we very rarely put the opposition defence on the back foot as a team. Yes we have individuals that can but we dont counter attack with purpose.

  • 49 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Which team in the PL has the highest number of passes in the attacking third and also into the box? I’m not sure there are stats for the latter.

  • 50 roy // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Looking at the goal tally,we could never be described as prolific. Pardew, needs to add a decent striker and a decent centre half to his Christmas wish list.

  • 51 roy // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Pardew, also needs to clear all the fringe crap out of the squad. Sammy, Obertan, Jonas, Saylor, Vuckic, Gosling, Marv, Tavernier, Cisse, Raylor, Campbell and Coloccini. That’s a whole team of average players on decent wages who contribute nothing, so move them on and replace them with some quality.

  • 52 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Shots pg OT pg Dribbles pg
    1 MN C 17.4 6.4 9.8
    2 Spurs 17.4 5.8 12.9
    3 Lvpl 17.3 6.8 12.6
    4 Chls 17.1 5.9 10.1
    5 Evtn 15.1 5.7 12.3
    6 NUFC 15 4.9 9.8
    7 Arsl 13.8 5.9 9.3
    8 Smptn 13.3 4.6 8.6
    9 Swns 13.2 4.9 7.8
    10 Mn U 12.9 4.8 9.3

  • 53 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    roy,

    I think the important thing is that anyone we buy regardless of position should be for the starting 11. We dont need rotation players or youth players until we evaluate the current ones.

    Like you say a few should be moved on although i think your list is a bit harsh personally.

  • 54 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    ————Shots pg–OT pg–Dribbles pg
    1. MN C—–17.4—–6.4——9.8
    2. Spurs——17.4—–5.8—–12.9
    3. Lvpl——-17.3—–6.8—–12.6
    4. Chls——-17.1—–5.9—–10.1
    5. Evtn——-15.1—–5.7—–12.3
    6. NUFC—–15——-4.9——9.8
    7. Arsl——–13.8—–5.9——9.3
    8. Smptn—–13.3—–4.6——8.6
    9. Swn——–13.2—-4.9——7.8
    10. Mn U—-12.9—–4.8——9.3

  • 55 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Looking at this there is money for investment:

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/much-fans-pay-nufc-break-even-premier-league-clubs-profits-losses/?

  • 56 IrishToonArmy // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    We need Gouffran to keep knocking them in.

    The fact that ourselves and Spurs are the only 2 teams not to have scored 3 or more goals in a match is worrying. I would love a 3-0 hammering of Palace at the weekend.

    Also, Remy needs to find his touch again. I dunno if it’s just me but he really seems to be ‘off’ the last couple of games. He worked hard at united and put in a good shift but his first touch and decision making has been quite poor for the past 4/5 games!

    Really hope we can get the win at the weekend, would love to see HBA have a great game aswel!

  • 57 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    70TWO

    God how bad is premier league shot accuracy! :-p

    On a more serious note considering we avg 15 spg when was the last time we even put 3 or more goals past a team!

    Answer feb 2013 in the 4-2 win over soton! thats embarrasing!

  • 58 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    70TWO,

    I think that is more an illustration of the reckless spending of others rather than the fact we should have money to spend. It also doesnt account for other revenues etc. and comparitive expenditures!

    I think we are doing fairly well in business terms. i know there is potentisl for more before we end up with another advertising debate.

  • 59 70TWO // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Statistics can be spinned (spanned?) any way you want them. Stick to black and white, goals in the net and points on the board. And there is always next Saturday…c.u

  • 60 wolfshead@toon // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    @50

    i think thats about right i wasnt expecting jfk to do a lot but i thought he might be ruthless at clearing out dead wood of course you have to spend money on replacements….

  • 61 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    What will it take to score more goals?

    Aside from everyone chipping in with goals! We have long needed a quality creative, playmaker – No 10. There was a time when I felt that HBA could fulfil the role. Sadly he just doesn’t seem to have the team mentality required and although he has exceptional skill frequently does not play the simple ball, because he lacks the vision of a Lallana, Hazard or a David Silva. That type of player all of whom are outside Ashley’s price range I suspect.

    The above named though are in fact the type of player that would take us to a whole new level. Arguably, HBA can match all of these players in terms of skill but needs to work on his overall contribution to the team performance. His cameo performance against Man U was encouraging only for there to be a relapse in the Southampton game. As things stand should a reasonable offer come in for him then we could well sell him. It’s a question of whether we feel he will ever make a consistent contribution. Despite his fan base hankering, he is clearly no longer an automatic selection. Hatem it’s over to you!
    December games will afford ample opportunity for him to make his claim.

    Clearly Shola is never going to make a big difference to the goals for column. Moving to the next level also means buying a target man who is more mobile and more of a goalscorer.

    I simply would prefer a January transfer concentration on the offensive side of the team. Surely that’s not asking to much!

  • 62 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Wolfshead: Comparing sauraz to cisse is not really the way to look at it.

    Firstly yes he is regularly offside 1.2 times per game last season – cisse 1.3 times per game – whoscored

    Funnily enough this season luis saurez has been offside on avergae per game more than any other player 1.4 times per game with papiss cisse 0.7 times per game. – whoscored

    That doesnt matter though its not about being offside or onside its about being provided the chances and suarez plays in a free flowing liverpool team that create chances for fun cisse on the other hand…

  • 63 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    sorry thats a repost my original comment had links to whoscored but it is still awaiting moderation

  • 64 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Ian Toon

    Precisely what i was saying earlier post # 30 onwards. I would love a no 10. Strengthening That one position could transform this team and to be honest this season with big changes at the top teams and sackings left right and centre blowing 15mil or 15mil plus cabaye on a really top playmaker could actually take us on a level entirely. Who is another question!

  • 65 Munster Mag // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Ian Toon, I have been saying same about HBA as a number 10 for ages, and been slagged for it. Obvioulsy have been proven correct again, obviously! HBA just doesnt get his head up and doesnt have the ability to be a number 10, period. If he cant make it into the team, c’est la vie.

  • 66 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    cj- it’s a shame I can’t hang around because there are a number of football types for a good chat on here I noted yesterday and today.
    .

  • 67 Tommyy // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Valle – it was a lighthearted jokey comment, nothing sinister. Man up. I was agreeing with gist of your comment anyway! But yeah all said and done now.

  • 68 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Just out of curiosity has anyone seen Ryan Gauld play from dundee utd. been on fire this season only 18 “apparently” all the top teams are watching him.

    Looks exceptional 10 assists 7 goals in 22 appearances so far this season. Would love it if we (kinnear/carr/pardew) thought right £3-£8mil lets do it!

    Check him out on youtube im sure there will be videos

  • 69 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Munster – your nothing if not resilient. It’s an opinion. I would sell Saylor and bring in James Tomkins . Know there’s controversy. Tomkins has played very well in the West Ham side of late and is being watched constantly by a whole host of PL scouts.

  • 70 cjtoon // Dec 18, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    Ian,

    Im sure if tomkins is on the move anywhere we will be in the mix, We have been after him for quite a while.




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