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Do Newcastle Really Want The Europa League Next Season?

10:16 am, Thursday, January 2nd, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 196 Comments

It will be almost impossible for Newcastle to make the top four in the Premier League this season,  and maybe the best we can do is 5th or 6th place at best.

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Alan Pardew – would he welcome the Europa League next season?

And if we do well and go on another winning run after our two successive defeats, then Newcastle could even qualify again for the Europa League, and heaven forbid, if we have a good run in the FA Cup and get to the final we could even qualify that way as well.

Over the last few seasons we’ve seen some poor sides represent England in the Europa League, and that’s because the winners of the FA Cup and the League Cup qualify, or even the losers can qualify under certain circumstances, while in most other European countries the Europa League positions are given to those clubs who finish highest in the league table.

And so we’ve had even relegated sides like Birmingham and Wigan be in the Europa League over the last few seasons, and that’s one reason the PL is now rated second behind the Spanish League in Europe.

And it’s interesting that Sunderland and West Ham – bottom and second bottom of the league at the moment – are in the semi-finals of the League Cup.

Of course if the FA stop sending the winners of these local Cups to Europe then they would very quickly degenerate and top sides would simply play their second elevens, as some top teams do now.

The Europa League is nothing like the Champions League and there are more games, less money and less prestige than the Champions League, and some English teams have struggled with so many games to play.

Swansea are doing a Newcastle this season, and they just don’t have a big enough squad to do well in both leagues, much like Newcastle last season, and Swansea have also suffered a lot of injuries so far this season.

One change the Europa League must make is to stop sending sides who have failed to qualify for the knockout stages of the Champions League (CL) and finish 3rd in their group,  down to the Europa League (EL).

The way it works right no is a source of extra games and CL teams make up eight teams of the final 32 of the EL – only teams who start in the competition should be able to win the competition – and maybe the group stages end up with 16 teams left – which is what happens in the Champions League.

Those changes would make the EL just like the CL in terms of format and the number of games played – and that’s the way it should be surely.

And Chelsea became the first holders of the Champions League not to qualify for the knockout stages o that competition last season – but they ended up winning the Europa League. :(

Of course if Newcastle are to become a top side again, then we will need to be in Europe, and have the squad to cope with the extra games.

Let us know if would like to see Newcastle in the Europa League next season.

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196 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Martoon

    The problem is Pardew will never trust our players. I can see that even if had squad depth he would still not rotate.

    Marveaux has been ruined by Pards. can’t believe he can’t get a start against WBA.

  • 2 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    8th place would be a good finish and is honestly where we are right now. It would be something solid to build on. Winning the FA Cup would be amazing but even Cardiff won’t be easy!

    I’d settle for 8th place and be happy enough but I would love to be in the mix for the CL places or the Cup

  • 3 Bambams // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Of course we need Europe !
    We must always strive to improve the team finances generated will push Ash to spend more=Europe
    Shola needs to be only used as a sub IMO as he just cannot do a full game.
    Hopefully Cisse a chance soon alongside Remy, even if Remy needs to go out wide.

  • 4 nufcursed // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    i’m sorry ed but this question is total bollocks.
    how can a club not want to be in rope???
    that would be like having no ambition at all..
    we must get into europe this season to attract better players!
    and we need to sign a couple more to replace ameobi, coloccini, cissé,…

  • 5 yo-yo // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    HD

    Have you ever seen Marv show any consistency in the time he’s been here ? We need players who will show up every game not once in a blue moon. I think you need to take off the rose tinted specs and realise Marveaux was a budget buy / high risk who has not paid off.

    The problem is our flair players like Marv and Benny are absolutely brilliant for very short periods during a game – but not enough to change the course of a game in our favour very often. It is not their skills I would question but their mindset. Top sports people need judgement, application and commitment as well as skill. Our flair players are also rans compared with the best. Benny’s decision making is so off the wall that it almost negates his abilities in getting into such threatening positions

  • 6 jimmysmith // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    We are a good side, we knock the ball around really well.

    Top 8 is a good achievement in a highly competitive league. Tottenham will surely improve in the second half as will Man U. I’m happy with the side and the manager.

    Would like to see more of Cisse, Benny and Gutierrez in the 2nd half of the season and the addition of a quality attacking central mid who chimes in with goals, and farewell to Marv and Obertan and one or two others, who I can’t see any role for.

  • 7 yo-yo // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    As for Europa – it’s the poor relation tournament but the Toon owner should want for us to be in Europe every season if he wants his player assets to accumulate in value – to take the cynical view of his motivation

  • 8 The Vicar // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    We need the Europa League like we need a hole in the head. When we played in the Fairs Cup, we played teams that had finished second or third in their leagues, and in many cases they went on to win their leagues in the year we defeated them e.g. Feyenoord, Ujpest, etc.

    Now the CL sweeps up second, third and in some cases forth placed sides, so the teams that get in the Europa have no comparison to the teams we played when we won the Fairs Cup. In fact, our first match in Europe saw us defeat the team that became WORLD CLUB champions 18 months later. That would not happen with the Europa.

  • 9 martoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    HD @1 – I think with Marveaux there is obviously something going on that we don’t know about if he is not even on the bench – this may or may not be Pardew’s fault.
    I fully agree with Ed that the clubs falling out of the CL into the EL is ridiculous. These clubs have already played 6 CL games and earned a reasonable amount of money – in my opinion once you are knocked out a cup competition you are out end of.

  • 10 The Vicar // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Sorry Cursed, it’s the CL or nothing. No one mentions the Europa League when they say they want to leave their clubs.

  • 11 Hobs // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    I think they changed the rules this season, so the losing finalists will NOT qualify for Europe. It’s winners only, and if the winner is already qualified, it’s transferred to the best placed Premier League team not already qualified.

  • 12 Graeme // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    It has been stated often enought the our Illustrious Owner is ONLY interested in the PL and finishing between 10th and 6th. He doesnt want Cup distractions or Europe as the return on investment is not worth the risk to the players.

    Pardew has said HE would like to win one of the Domestic cup competitions, but his view isnt supported from above!! There is no ambition from above other than to remain in top half of table and bring in the milk & honey from the gate receipts and the TV money!!!

    Ambition – its something the fans have, but it would appear to be a view not shared by the management.

  • 13 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Okay so I’ve just read the most bizarre toon rumour of the day!!!!

    Aparantley were in for De Jong!!
    What’s wrong with that you say? Seim De Jong is a great player! Oh not Seim? Well Luuk is still a canny player, wait not Luuk?

    Yup that’s right Nigel De Jong, sure HBA will be waiting with open arms to greet him!
    Seriously where do journos pull this sh1te from!

  • 14 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    The thing that makes the Europa league appear to be a bit if a joke is it’s ridiculous set up
    Dropping out of one comp into another? Just takes the point out if the tournament tbh

    It’s not a comp i think the club really care about tbh, were constantly reminded about the poor financial reward

  • 15 Phatoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    @tads (13)

    That obviously means we are selling Ben Arfa ;)

    Also (lol)

    http://www.givemesport.com/414881-newcastle-in-talks-to-sign-manchester-united-playmaker-target?autoplay=on

  • 16 Marty-Toon // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    We’ve got the making not just of a quality team but also a squad.
    Fergie always blooded the youngsters in games now n again when the team was doin well.
    Pards isn’t doin that even when he sees the lads are exhausted.
    Ok,Pards has used Vukcic,Fergie,Sammy and Dummetta few times and they’ve done alright at times.
    He really needs to use the squad.
    We had Mbiwa,Cisse,Anita and others on the sidelines and even though he knew many first teamers were exhausted he didn’t use the decent squad players available-his fault that we looked lackluster.
    Surely after watching the rubbish we saw yesterday these lads couldn’t have done any worse

  • 17 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Phatoon
    That Cabella rumour seems to be gathering some speed now tbh, we’ve been linked with him for a long time, would be a great signing just can’t see us paying £15 odd mil for anyone!

  • 18 JAMSHA // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    3 defeats in a row nxt week

  • 19 70TWO // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Last season when we were playing in the Europa Cup, the players used in the early group games were squad players and those needing to gain form. This was the best use of our squad and led to qualification, so the excuse of injuries and fatigue from Pardew was bogus (as usual). Perhaps there was a slight impact on domestic cup games but the kudos from playing in Europe has more of an advantage.

  • 20 geordiemark // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    A new manager and 8 new signings would have to be done to combat the europa league, with the manager we have dont hold your breath

  • 21 Phatoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    tads,

    That’s what’s funny. £14m?? Doubt it.

    However, if we are to sell:

    Gosling, Obertan, Marveaux and Gutierrez (if rumours are true). Then we may only have to “spend” £8m-£9m.

  • 22 JAMSHA // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    hope we can sign him we woul have 2 remys,2 sholas,2 taylors, 2 demba mayb

  • 23 sweendog // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    toonarmydownsouth .. I do think this has legs .. hope its an improvement on marveaux but realistically its cabaye or arfa

  • 24 geordiemark // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    id sell ben arfa no problem as long as carbella comes in but if he doesnt then leaves us a man short plus we also need at least 2 strikers, a midfielder who is a workaholic in midfield and who can gell with toite,cabaye. also id love to know why we dont use sossiskos height more hes 6ft 3 at least so use it id put him up top with a new striker me remember macdonald used to be a left back until joe harvey converted him into a striker so why not

  • 25 yo-yo // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Cabella and Cabaye in the same side ? Hmm

    Perhaps Cabs is PSG bound ?

  • 26 Phatoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Who knows, this could be the “ambition” we are looking for ;)

    I do think that Ashley is trying to do it the right way, however, it’s not the “football” way.

    On N de Jong, if I’m honest, if he’s inexpensive (and if we ignore the whole Ben Arfa-gate), I would actually mind him in the squad….. Hopefully he can Kung-Fu Suarez like he did to Alonso that time ;) (joking… somewhat)

  • 27 jimmygscot // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    Present 8th position is the best the Toon can hope for. Talk of Europe is a nonsense look what happened last season.
    Remember last season when players were blooded in the Europa League, why have they not progressed to the first team? 2/3 players are no longer giving decent performances. Can’t say that the rest of the season will hold much joy for Toon fans.

  • 28 Sir Erec // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Cabella is listed as 14mil

    However, the articles do say that the chairman is willing to negotiate quite a bit as they are desperate for cash, and NUFC are good for offering cash straight up, which is a little uncommon in football

    I could see that price drop down quite a bit. Hopefully we have a good relationship with Montpellier as we have bought Mbiwa from them just last year.

    would be an interesting and welcome player at the Toon in my opinion

  • 29 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Interesting adding the points each team got from their 4 holiday games.
    Guess who we play next the form team Man City
    Man City 12
    Arsenal 10
    Chelsea 10
    Spuds 10
    Man Utd 9
    Everton 7
    TOON 6
    Liverpool 6
    Stoke 4
    Southampton 3
    Swansea 1

    Lost ground on top teams but Everton Liverpool and clubs below held our own or gained

    Outcome not as bad as a lot suggest could of been better if got a point against Arsenal and West Brom

  • 30 Phatoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    should read

    “wouldn’t mind him”

  • 31 geordiemark // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    I wouldnt rule out the prospect of us selling krul in this window to be honest, I do blame him for wba loss and partly arsenal loss as well yeah he had a good game v spurs but i do like our other keeper we would need to bring in a new keeper but they have been watching readings keeper havent they just wonder if somethings in this

  • 32 Phatoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    Wasn’t the Montpellier chairman (with the crazy hair) a bit p!ssed at us over the whole Yanga-Mbiwa thing? I seem to remember him making sniping comments..

  • 33 lesh // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    Phatoon, if it’s true that Kinnear’s opened talks for Remy Cabella, should someone tell him that the Remy he should be signing up is actually playing for us, and doing very nicely thank you!

    Judge Kinnear by his signings? No chance!

  • 34 Phatoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    @lesh,

    tell him after he’s signed Cabella ;)

  • 35 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Sir erec
    Not 100% sure but I’m pretty sure the crazy ass mofo in charge of Montpellier was absolutely livid over Yanga leaving and was pretty uncomplimentary about the toon!
    Or was that the Lille chairman……..,
    Or Toulouse……………!

  • 36 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    Yo yo
    Oh you cynic! ;)
    Would be a great midfield though, allowing Cabaye to sit deeper in his preferred position so as he said can sit in front if the back four and pull the strings!

  • 37 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    The Europa league is far to much of an easy excuse for not performing when we played a second string for much of it. Swansea and Spurs are pretty much where they were this time last season.

    The point is we didn’t build on the season we fluked 5th and I can’t see us overhauling any of the 7 teams above us no. So how is finishing 8th going to get any pulses racing now and be of use to anyone?

    Whenever Pardew reaches a position of strength, that lack of an X factor in management ability always fatally kicks in.

    Other managers would have rotated and rested players. Pardew has ours running on empty in a system which creates criminally few chances every game as our creative, attacking flair players are systematically discarded one by one.

  • 38 Marty-Toon // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    Here’s a video of Remy Cabella

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aytchoilOb8

  • 39 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    marveaux only plays once in a blue moon!

  • 40 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    Well Lee Ryder is running the story saying that we have made contact with Montpellier so that’s the end of that rumour! ;)

  • 41 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    Newcastle reaching Europe don’t make me laugh, we got beat by a out of form WBA, we played a pathetic 4-4-2 again with Shola up top but we had a strong team to play a 4-3-3 and we could of destroyed them but noooo AP got it wrong again.

    P.S i don’t see any signings coming this transfer window so don’t get your hopes up guys

  • 42 nufc7lad // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Cabella should be available for £7m, they need money as they arent in europe and they could potentially be relegated

  • 43 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Used to be a massive krul fan and still think he is great keeper but his distribution is appalling. Worse than that his holding on the ball so long and then just hoofing it to Shola. He never throws it out quickly to get an attack going.

    We have all these superbly technical foreign players but 2 dark age English dinosaurs in Pardew and JFK so we will never see their true potential realised. If I was Cabella I’d run a mile!

  • 44 Marty-Toon // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    Swansea did well against City
    But the Swans are way ahead of us in footballing terms,the way they play the ball and move.
    They actually had over 50% of the play against City in Wales
    Unless we play at our best and have the 5man midfield we should’ve had at west Brom then we won’t get a sniff

  • 45 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    we played against a very tired Swansea team and still we got battered 3-0.

    we have a team to reach CL but we don’t have the manager for it.

    defend first attack last this is Pardew’s style

  • 46 martoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    Some interesting odds for January tranfers here
    http://www.skybet.com/football/specials/transfer-specials?aff=9718&dcmp=ss_betlink_transtab

    The 3 that caught my eye were:-
    Cabaye 2:1 to move to PSG
    Demba Ba 7:1 to move back to us
    and the most surprising (to me anyway)
    Phil Jagielka 9:1 favourite for a move to us.

  • 47 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    martoon

    Ince 14-1 to sign for us but we were favourites a couple of months ago lol

  • 48 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    I know we are only 2 days in to the transfer window but hasn’t anyone noticed something missing from the nufc blog………………….yes you got it The resident ITK’s have yet to make an appearance yet !!
    But in all seriousness I do think our best 11 is a match for any pl side but behind the first 11 we are so so lacking in everyway.Remy cabella would be an excellent acquisition to the squad and I think business would be done for around the 10 mill mark, But again this will comw down to our favourite word in the transfer window Ambition

  • 49 sweendog // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    don’t rule out ince as we have our quota of non British home grown .. this is probably why the only cb we’ll get is that 17 year old mind you if you’re good enough you’re old enough

  • 50 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    sell Cabaye for 20-25 million, sack Pardew give the git the 10 million, bring in Laudrup and spend the 10-15 million on strengthening the squad.

    now this would make a fantastic new year

  • 51 sweendog // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    #50 agreed imagine the difference to the sqyad s performance .. we can dream

  • 52 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    WBA wree an abysmal team who we should have murdered if we didn’t have such a defensive manager

  • 53 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    i thought MA was skint? and couldn’t bring in any players unless we sell

  • 54 sweendog // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    mind you I wouldn’t sell cabaye .. he’s the gel in our team ..and our best player debuchy is his best mate

  • 55 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Black and white
    You may be on to a winner there bud.
    Sweendog
    May be there is business to be done on ince with gosling going the other way as there in talks on gosling doing a permanent deal in this transfer window ??

  • 56 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    sweendog

    true we can all dream i think that’s why Football manager is awesome and a top selling franchise :)

  • 57 sweendog // Jan 2, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    rotonda they were shocking . the motd highlights papered over how bad they were .. if we attacked more that game it was an easy 3 points .. I usually back pardew but after that performance he’s dead wood

  • 58 wolfshead@toon // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    same old nufc fans two losses in a row its crisis time and the solution is? sack the manager lol

  • 59 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Black and white

    Even when in good or even great positions Pardew shows why he has never achieved anything with his fatal obstinacy. With respect he is an ex – glazier while Wenger is a man with 5 degrees who is nicknamed ”the professor” !!

    Think Spurs have done well just like Chelsea when they sacked AVB. Got in an youngish, popular with the players, ex -player.

  • 60 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    sweendog

    same here mate i wouldn’t sell Cabaye, but if it gets us a new attacking/possession style manager like Laudrup and to bring players like Ince, Matunda, Gomis, Cabella i’m all for it.

  • 61 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    wolfshead@toon

    we got to keep the ball rolling mate lol

  • 62 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    Rotonda heights

    how about bringing Shearer back? with our current team and Shearers knowledge of attacking play it could work?

  • 63 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    Would like to stay clear of gomis to be honest.But if we were to bag him for around 2-3 mill then that’s got to be a better option than shola for sure

  • 64 Phatoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    As much as I’m disappointed about the last 2 games. I would have ripped your arm off, if you had offered me the position we are in now, at the end of last season.

  • 65 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    jazzyp

    defo mate, i don’t rate Gomis at all but like you said he’s an better option than Shola

  • 66 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    Wolfshead

    And the same old deluded sad acts who thought it would last are back as well.

    Where in any part of Pardew’s CV have the words consistently good appeared?

    Yes it’s 2 defeats but it’s crucial defeats at a crucial time which completely undo any positive previous results and momentum.

    Both defeats with good management and a bit of nous were avoidable but oh no let’s flog ‘em to death and see if we can just nick 1 goal ! The guy never learns and is why his trophy cabinet like the club’s, is empty

  • 67 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:11 PM

    blacka nd white

    not sure shearer’s the answer with his ego and previous management record but for a team to just average 3 shots on goal in the last 2 games is pathetic and shows where proper coaching is needed.

  • 68 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:11 PM

    Phatoon

    even the season Pardew got us 5th i still didn’t want him here, he’s no good at all sure we’ve beaten Man U & Chelsea but even worse managers have done this look at the mackems against Man city and Chelsea

  • 69 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    Rotonda heights

    very true mate, we seem to be the only attacking side team who would rather defend and have Goal against record as a achievement rather than goal for

  • 70 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Rotonda
    To be fair mate shearer tuck over a squad that was already screwed and was going nowhere apart from the hallowed gates of the championship. I think the best thing for shearer would be to step in as a no 2 role and learn from a top manager for a number of years before dropping in to management if this was to be his path

  • 71 Belfast // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    Big fat no from me. Not with the current owner.

    Lack of investment and you’ll end up in the exact same situation as last season.

  • 72 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    jazzyp

    true mate i could see Shearer becoming the next Jose Mourinho

  • 73 kilcline // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    We should be looking to tie up Ince and a quality striker, nothing else is needed.

    Ince would give us much needed pace and goals/assists.

  • 74 BuckLuck // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    Pardew has done a good job in my eyes this season. Better than I expected so I can’t complain much about that. Credite where credite is due.

    When that’s said I think our next step, IF Ashley want’s to evolve and make us a top 6 team, is to hire a new manager. Preferably in the Laudrup category. You don’t need to look any further than to Rodgers, Martinez and Laudrup to see what a modern and attacking manager can do with a squad previously ran by old fashioned(although proved) managers.

    It would be far more effective to use a good sum of money on a Laudrup type of manager and buy one or two players, rather than giving Pardew five new players. Pardew is not a modern manager, and he won’t be one either.

  • 75 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    kilcline

    and Ince is an natural winger on both sides which we don’t have and is what we seriously need

  • 76 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    BuckLuck

    like i said on my post @50, if this happens it will be good times at Newcastle again

  • 77 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    indykaila News ?@indykaila 5m
    Sorry WestHam, Newcastle just made Johnny Heitinga a better offer. #WHUFC #NUFC

  • 78 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    imagine what laudrup could do with us, Marvuex would be epic as a winger/playmaker and even Obertan could play like Routledge quick and deadly with pace.

    but we all know this will never happen, mates before ambition this is MA strategy :(

  • 79 BuckLuck // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    Black and White

    Agree with you then!

    That would be a fantastic 2014. Look what Pardew is able to do with our current squad and think of what a modern manager could transform us into. With the players we have we would probably entertain even when loosing without bringing new players in. A couple of new players and we would compete with Everton, Man Utd(at the current state) and perhaps Tottenham.

    Instead we’re happy with a top 8 finish. At least I am with Pardew at the helm.

  • 80 Belfast // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:31 PM

    Apparently Heitinga has rejected west ham for us.

    Strange one that if true. Though I think he can play in about 5 different positions

  • 81 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:31 PM

    Himanshu Dhingra

    wasn’t indykaila the one who said Zouma, PEA, Gignac & Sinclaire was on there way to Newcastle?

  • 82 Belfast // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:32 PM

    http://t.co/bi9FIuE0sc

  • 83 Belfast // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    From Bt Sport not sure how reliable they are like

  • 84 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    Belfast

    if it is real then Taylor must be on his way out

  • 85 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    Heitinga & MYM in defence? could be crucial partners

  • 86 martoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    It has been said before but Pardew is the best manager we can expect under this owner. So talk of sacking him is just silly – what then? There is no way the likes of Laudrup will work for Mike Ashley more likely we would end up with one of JFK’s ex cronies.

  • 87 Belfast // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    Would actually be a decent signing.

    I think Everton signed him as a right back, but he seems to play centre back or centre midfield anytime I’ve seen him.

  • 88 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:37 PM

    Buck Luck

    Nail on the head there.

    In nearly 20 years pardew has had one top 6 th finish while nearly relegating 3 different teams and having 2 record losing streaks at 2 different clubs, while setting records for most goals conceded in a season etc etc.

    With the law of averages and the players we have, ie half the current French national team, my mum could probably have us 8th and she’s 80 !!

    You just want someone to come in and take the strait jackets off the players and let them play a bit with more than 3 shots at goal during a game !!

  • 89 BuckLuck // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    martoon

    We’re allowed to dream. Thank god for that!

  • 90 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    Indykaila? I’d he really still – shut it Belfast – getting the time of day? Its an insult just to post his tosh links on here he is NEVER right.

    Agree about Tim Kruls distribution, he actually gives away possession with his rotten kicks and refusal to play from the back more than anyone else on the team, including the notorious and evil Ben Arfa, agent of defeat!

    Europa is an essential target and is actually rewarding both financially and team wise.

  • 91 Rainrix // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    Great another month of this transfer merry go round, joy.

    I thought we had a strict under 28 transfer policy? Unless Heitinga is really on the cheap i don’t see that happening.

  • 92 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    martoon

    we all know with an 8 year contract he’s going nowhere sadly and therefore as a direct result of that, neither will the club.

  • 93 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:40 PM

    Heitinga

    isn’t good enough for everton so why would he be a positive for nufc. Better players out there lads so lets not lower our standards eh, Unless again we going for a cheaper option as usual. Would he displace colo or willo or even mym,If placed as a defensive midfielder would he displace mr t or anita no so as ive said not a positive for me.
    Should be looking for quality player that are better or would give serious completion to the first 11

  • 94 Belfast // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:41 PM

    Hold your horses skunki The link is from Bt sport.

    Indy what’s his face must be claiming it as his own info

  • 95 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    Indykaila just poaches known links, his guesses are all pure crud.

    I have horses?

  • 96 Belfast // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    BT Sport ?@btsport 24m
    Exclusive: West Ham set to lose out on Johnny Heitinga to Newcastle. http://bit.ly/1ivR14v #btsport pic.twitter.com/kE8gad2yrA

  • 97 BuckLuck // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    Rotonda heights

    Agree. The players are far too restrained to compete with the modern teams. Teams around us are slowly getting their modern managers. We will only loose ground to our fellow mid table teams if we continue with Pardew.

    I could almost bet my car that Southampton will be better than us next season if Pardew and Pochettino is still managing Newcastle/Southampton.

  • 98 Belfast // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    I want an apology (a written one)

  • 99 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    jazzyp

    agree with you there mate but only 2 reason why we would sign him.

    1 – offers squad depth for rotation purpose

    2 – cheap option since MA ( a billionaire ) is skint

  • 100 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    Personally IF we sold cabaye, (apparantley PSG are willing to pay £22) I’d like to ideally see us go for Milan Badelj

    Obviously can’t see either this window, just fun doing a bit of fantasy football!

  • 101 Rainrix // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    Yeah indy is abysmally inaccurate, obviously the only person you should get your transfer rumours from is colin lord and master of the transfer window and 100% not an attention seeking little cretin ;)

  • 102 wolfshead@toon // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    rotonda

    as usual you are all over the place with your reasons to sack pards he was an ex glazier so? wenger has degrees and? bring in a manager thats an ex player pards is an ex player and when was the last time the professor won anything and how many players have come and gone under him since then and how much money has he spent? this season may change largely due to coughing up 40 mill for ozil our winning streak came to an end by the possible prem champs yesterday we were okay until debuchy and krul lost the plot you cant just single out pards all the time or can you haha

  • 103 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    Lol Jonny Heitinga, we trying to bring in some competition for Taylor to see who can shout loudest and make rash challenges?

  • 104 wolfshead@toon // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    that was a long post for me i should have used paragraphs :-)

  • 105 Belfast // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    I thought that Indy might have fell on his sword by now

  • 106 Ben3arfa // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    how true are the Heitinaga rumours? if so , then zzzzzzzz lol

  • 107 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Black n white
    I understand for squad depth but it doesn’t say much about remi street and the likes if this is what sort of player we are after. For me cabella would be an amazing player for the team as he would quite easily walk in to the starting 11, Heitinga sorry as I feel he is not much if any better than ste taylor/willo or mym

  • 108 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Hiring managers based on their acidic status? Why don’t we get Iain Dowie then- he’s a rocket scientist. Really. Look it up.

  • 109 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    Ben3arfa
    Exactly

  • 110 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    Acidic status? Whaaaaaaaa? Academic! Ha ha I think I’ve started a new topic..

  • 111 martoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:57 PM

    if the Heitinga story is true then it looks like Saylor’s days are numbered – he could be on his way out this transfer window.

  • 112 Munster Mag // Jan 2, 2014 at 12:57 PM

    There’s no way we are a top 6 side. 7th or 8th I would say. Its a pity Pardew didnt give fringe players a chance v West Brom. Very poor management , given that he has players chomping at the bit on the sidelines. Hopefully Haidara will take over from the useless ( as I have said all along ) Santon asap.

  • 113 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM

    Wolfshead @104 wouldn’t have killed you to put a few commas in either :)

  • 114 yo-yo // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM

    I start a rumour about a bit player as a joke. It is recirculated by someone else and then retwatted endlessly and suddenly becimes solid information.

  • 115 rebeltoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:09 PM

    bit rash to want to sack pards after two losses, the arsenal game we were robbed arsenal were barely able to play and had very few opportunities realistically going forward, they scored from a free kick and it was just bad luck, compared to concedeing 7 goals this time last year against arguably a worse arsenal team, id happily take 1 nil, also it was a penalty and a red card that lost us the game at west brom.
    in my opinion i would happily get rid of hba to bring in someone who can actually score up front for us, remy could be gone end of season and goofy will get a few but hes not a natural finisher.
    i understand why pards keeps him as a sub because he does nothing going backwards and i think he is an extremely selfish player creating great positions and taking impossibly shots as opposed to passing. im sick of screaming at him to shoot

  • 116 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:09 PM

    I think we are good value for a 6th place side. If we fired on all cylinders we actually could grab a champs league spot. There’s something odd about the way we blow hot and cold, its probably more to do with our predictable play every week, some managers can’t handle it, others can.

    To play against us you need to keep all but two players in your own box and let Tim Kruls kicks keep coming to you :)

  • 117 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    Jack Sullivan ?@jsullivanwhu 7m
    SADLY HEITINGA will not be joining us. We think he’s chosen Newcastle ahead of us
    Retweeted by Mark Douglas

  • 118 bills-son // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    Laudrup for next manager?

    He’s only won 7 out his last 30 prem games.

    Thats relegation form.

  • 119 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:11 PM

    Apparently Saylor is on his way to West Ham in Jan to shore their defence in a last gasp bid to stay up.

  • 120 G // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:12 PM

    I cant see us either being in for Heitinga to be honest. I reckon the rumour about Newcastle approacing him is an agent trying to engineer a move, nothing else.

  • 121 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:14 PM

    Carlton Cole coming the other way.

  • 122 Belfast // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    Think I’ll just claim that Heitinga story as my exclusive..

    Remember you heard it here first.
    Agent Belfast told you all. #Itk #manycontacts #herethings
    #exclusives

  • 123 yo-yo // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:17 PM

    Tsunki

    Successful sides manage to reduce the swings of form and grind out results even when playing badly. We had two incidents in the last two games and lost 1-0 both times. In neither game did we play well. As a successful form team we would have got 4 pts from these two but we are still a mid ranking side and sometimes the game runs away from you. I still feel we are as good a side as Everton and only lower in the table becasue we are less consistent, and are losing when we play a bit below par. Manure are in the same situation – they have lost their ability to grind out results – they were rarely pretty anyway

  • 124 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:19 PM

    Let’s all have a go at being random ITK’s :)

    You heard it here #fingersinmanypiesyeahright #makesitupashegoesalong #blowsthisstuffouthisrear

  • 125 martoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    Tsunki @120 – I hope that is a joke. @118 that wouldn’t be so silly. Whatever we think of him he is an experienced premiership defender and probably less of a risk than bringing someone from abroad plus Big Sam will know him from his time here and Saylor will know Nolan and his best mate AC.

  • 126 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:24 PM

    Yo-yo that about sums it up for me. Last two games have been pretty dire spectacles, the Stoke one was a bit pants until the red cards really, we seem to bog down up front when we get in this rut. Having said that, we’ve played well enough to drag the opposition down to the same level. We made arsenal look very ordinary, and both games lost by the deciding margin of a single scrappy goal.

  • 127 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:26 PM

    Martoon – ahhhhhhh that’s how ITK’ing works. :)

  • 128 Toon1978 // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    We have S.Taylor, Mbiwa and Willo not to mention young Cb still to come through like C.Good, Remy Streete just to name a couple. Heitinga is 30 years old. Think this one is a crock.

  • 129 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:32 PM

    Swansea aren’t 16th though are they Bills? Plus Laudrup won a cup in his first year, has them in Europe and they play great football.

    Pardew isn’t, never has been or ever will be a winner, we’re not in europe and we play ultra defensive football.

  • 130 Markaccus // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM

    Thought we played quite well v Arsenal, personally. We were poor v WBA but its always a naff game down there. I still think HBA makes bad decisions at times. He can be our most effective player and most ineffective player all in one game.

  • 131 Markaccus // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    Wigan won a cup last year….. and are now ib the championship. Just saying.

  • 132 Markaccus // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    Ib=in

  • 133 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    It was all going so rosy in the garden of Pardew but the problems of last season have started to rear their ugly head we look boring , predictable and toothless up front again and he has a problem with rotating players

    We have about 4 or 5 players that need a rest or dropped anyone from Santon, Colo , Remy ,Shola, Gouffran and Sissoko Pardew seems to play players till they are pretty burnt out or get suspended and then he makes forced changes

    What would have been wrong about starting Arfa on one wing yesterday and say Sammy on the other ?Both would have offered pace , skill and directness and would have gave their defence which cant handle pace and directness something to think about also would have meant our fullbacks would not have to bomb forward as much

    Also hate how we never properly give a youngster a chance Everton , Southampton regularly give youngsters a chance always wonder what our young players would play like with a better manager ?

    Also hate how our attacks slow down when the ball gets to a few players , as much as Willamson and Tiote have improved they still slow down our play a lot of the time because they win it in good positions but always look to play it to someone else which is an extra touch which allows opposition teams to regroup Tiote especially although in recent games he has stopped shooting which is a bonus

    All in all its been an improvement from last season and we are actually pretty safe in 8th place but we could be achieving so much more with the right mindset

  • 134 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    ROTONDA

    Some fans after 13 years of hard core sh*t think shola Ameobi is a legend.

    Those fans will give Pardew 20 years after one lucky 5th place finish.

  • 135 Ciaran // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    I’ve ceased being a massive critic of Pardew, but it is important to note that he has only ever started and finished 3 seasons in the Premier League as a manager, and 2 of those seasons were with us! Not exactly massive PL experience is it?

  • 136 Markaccus // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    Newcastle have played some good football when our strongest attacking 11 have been playing this season. A bit more posession and a little less hoofage. In harder games where changes were made and we were defensive, it has not looked so good, but we have ground out some decent results this way. I know most of us hunger for that free flowing attacking bravado of olden days, but should we really mess about with it while it is mostly working??

  • 137 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    Heitinga has releases a statement that he turned down west ham because he didn’t feel it was the right move for him
    He’s gone on to say he still has ambitions of Brazil and wants regular football
    So why the hell would he come here??
    Taylor going? Colo going? Willo not getting a new contract? Seriously where would he fit in!

  • 138 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    wolfshead

    You are not seriously going to class Pardew alongside Wenger because that would just be very silly indeed wouldn’t it.

    So you just need to stop there before the nice men in white coats with butterfly nets come for you.

    Can’t remember Pardew winning 11 trophies with one team or getting in to the CL 16 years running

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ars%C3%A8ne_Wenger

  • 139 martoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    Tsunki – Aye you start the rumours and I’ll back them up with some logical statements ;)
    Markaccus – Happy new year- I was at the Arsenal game we played OK and Arsenal weren’t great a draw would have been a fair result. What they didn’t show on MOTD was that Arsenal players are a bunch of cheats diving to the ground when they haven’t been touched. The WBA game was a bad day at the office they are one of our bogie teams.

  • 140 Ciaran // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM

    As for the Heitinga rumours, is he the dominant centre half that we need? There is a reason he is getting next to no playing time at Everton, and if we are to see ourselves as their better or equal, then surely we should not be signing their cast offs?

  • 141 Markaccus // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    Martoon

    All the best, mate. Yeah Carl was there too. He says we were unlucky not to get anything. I watched on tv and have to agree. Just one defensive lapse and a very good delivery and it was all over.

  • 142 Edd Case // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM

    We wont sign anyone in Jan – haven’t some of you lot learned this?

    We’re not in the position we were a year ago, so expect nothing…Christ, we only managed a loan signing in the ENTIRE summer…

  • 143 mindshaft // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    And Pards likely excuse for Manc City game

    Take your pick….although likely he’ll use all of em

    We missed Debuchy and Collocinni who are a big big players for us!

    I thought if we kept it tight for an hour we were in with a chance, unfortunately ……

    I’m proud of the effort the players put in, you can’t ask more than that…..

    Players have played a lot of games and are feeling it, the FA need to look at the xmas fixture list….

    They got the early goal and then a second, we were always up against it after that…..

    We’ve had a good start to the season and we would have taken 33 points in Jan at the start of the season

  • 144 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    Lol
    @GNev2: “@stevebartram1: Any excuse to dig out this Ole clip: http://t.co/jocSOOLxNd”

    Imagine that now. He’d be a social media scumbag and cheat!

  • 145 martoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    Markaccus – “Just one defensive lapse and a very good delivery and it was all over” – are we still talking football :)

  • 146 belgrade fan // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    You people should be more realistic. And stop be nervous. Shall we finish in top 5? NO CHANCE. Top 6? Almost sure no chance. So our fight is 7 or 8 which I m sure is no big different. UNLESS we sign 3-4 classy players in Jan. Which no gonna happened. About AP- dont want to slate him but he is very limited and his basic job is to be asslicker. We need Ba back, Diame (when play Tiote and Anita we know they wont score and offer nothing to attack), Menez or some good winger and CAM who is fast and with good dribling. Than we r in top 4 competition

  • 147 catchy in norway // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    its pointless having an negative opinion on pardew, you will only be shot down by those who look at the here and now and say look a the table

    these same guys only blame players, never the manager

    but you have to laugh don’t you, last year, the squad was to small to cope with injuries, this year he is intent on seeing the season using as few players as possible,

    at this minute, we have at least 5 players that should be given a rest , because we’re getting nothing much from them

    gouffy, for me he is now the new Jonas, he pops up with the odd goal, runs, but footballing wise, he carnt pass a ball

    sissoko runs but has no real position,, I think he has real quality, somewhere

    remy, ends up running the channels for both sissoko and gouffy, not in the center where we need him

    shola, even In the games where he has donr something good, he don’t deserve to be any where near the pitch, all he does is foul, and slows play down

  • 148 catchy in norway // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    I don’t understand the sub that pardew keeps making, hiadara for santon ????

    why not just start with him ???

    marv, and anita, 2 of our better players, that I think should start, being treated like shut, along with all the kids in our squad,

    pardew is just running our squad into the ground in diffwrent ways

  • 149 Sazzer // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    No reason for us to be in for Heitinga. Loan rumour of Lescott makes more sense. If we are looking for experience replacement for S.Taylor or Colo.

  • 150 Vask // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    I’m surprised there haven’t been more envious eyes cast towards Cardiff’s recent appointment. Could turn out to be a blinding appointment. Could turn out crarp as well like.

  • 151 Sazzer // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    NUFC Stats ?@NUFC_Stats
    No Heitinga signing say @NUFCOfficial! #nufc

  • 152 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    Phew bullet dodged

  • 153 kt97toonarmy // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    Im happy to find we arnt getting heitinga. Hes hopeless. Thank god for that

  • 154 Tsunki // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    Could Belfast and Indykaila be one and the same? An intriguing game of double bluff? El Bel have you been outed?

  • 155 Sazzer // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    Tsunki
    One way to find out…

    Belfast are we in for Pato or not?

  • 156 Ancientcoptic // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    Laudrup has 6 league wins in 30 games, and Swansea are going downhill fast.

    Bielsa is more of what I would like to see at the club.

    Pardew is an okay manager, he would probably be better suited to teams like West Brom or Fulham… keeping a team mid-table.

    A sleeping giant like Newcastle needs an attacking dictator to wake it up.

  • 157 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    Belfastkalia@Itknumber1
    NUFC are in talks to sign the Brazil team because they canny get enough of our away kit #Tsunkisrumbledme

  • 158 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    Vask
    Yeah in all fairness it’s a bold appointment by Tan, very exciting young manager
    Not sure if he can keep them in the league but he’ll be a great manager for them i think

  • 159 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    i got to agree with Ancientcoptic we need an attacking manager.

    as much as i want our Newcastle to be successful it just simply won’t happen with Pardew at the helm and all you Pardew lovers will some day realize this.

    we all want what’s best for our club but unfortunately though we have a Manager, DOF & Chairmen who don’t.

  • 160 Sazzer // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM

    Jack Sullivan ?@jsullivanwhu
    We now understand heitinga’s decision was not influenced by interest from any other Club.

  • 161 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    out of all the news iv’e now recently read that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is now the Cardiff boss.

    well it looks like to me that all teams are improving but ours

  • 162 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    how much is this Remy Cabella?

    i heard somewhere he’s between 10-14 million?

    if so i wouldn’t pay to much attention to it considering we are letting Ince slip through our fingers who is priced around the 2 million mark

  • 163 Sazzer // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    Hopefully they have big plans and bring in both Cabella and Ince.

    While letting Obertan, Gosling, Marv and Jonas go.

  • 164 martoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Sazzer @159 – I suspect he has had an irate phone call from an NUFC official so he has backed down – still could be some truth in it though.

  • 165 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Black n White
    Don’t cross ince off yet mate as they may well be in negotiations as part of the deal to take gosling the other way.
    As for cabella………..why not we spent 15-20 mill this time last year and we spent 10 mill on cisse the season before so who knows.
    Obertan-Marvs-taylor-gutti would probably accumulate to around that figure and I sure know which player out of that lot I would sooner have playing for nufc.
    And another appealing offer is that Monchengladbach have opened the door for the sale of de jong-de jong and cisse, Would you take that option as well ??

  • 166 NUFCarter // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    Adam Campbell starts for St. Mirren against Kilmarnock.

  • 167 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    Sazzer
    great minds think alike eh !!

  • 168 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-hopeful-beating-manchester-united-2980585?

    this just made me laugh, how on earth can we compete with Man U for Cabella.

    jazzyp

    we simply don’t have the funds to pay for him.

    also Monchengladbach can have Cisse for De Jong, both players on poor form but at least De Jong is younger and could be better use for us

  • 169 Sazzer // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:21 PM

    You never know but probably from the agent side if so. I can’t see why we would go for Heitinga.

  • 170 OhSholaAmeobi // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:21 PM

    The Europa league desperately needs revamping, it’s just seen as a distraction, a league cup compared to the FA cup, and the idea that Juventus and Napoli (to name a few) have dropped into it after some teams have went through 3 qualifying rounds and a group stage…
    All players and managers want to win and to aim as high as possible, so to say our team isn’t aiming for a high finish on (and europe) on purpose is stupid.
    What we do need is more attacking impetus because we can control games with Tiote & Cabaye. Ideal signings would include Cabella, Menez (PSG) or some other named decent winger with an output.

  • 171 OhSholaAmeobi // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    Pardew needs to rotate. With the Cardiff cup game coming up it’s plausible that the likes of Dummett and Sammy will get a game.
    Against City i’d like to see:
    Krul
    Santon Willo Mbiwa Haidara
    Tiote Cabaye Anita
    Ben Arfa Cisse Remy

  • 172 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    OhSholaAmeobi

    i thought you would of included Shola in the first 11 ;)

  • 173 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Black n white
    We were gonna pay 9 mill for gomis last summer and have the money in place for remy to sign on the dotted line so why not for cabella.
    Cabella was once dubbed the next zidane and had a value of around £100 mill but now Montpellier are in financial trouble and facing a relegation battle they are willing to accept offers of around the 10-14 mill mark which is well within our budget

  • 174 Mister Tuff // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    Just been on Sky news – Adam Campbell has scored for St. Mirren after 18 minutes.

  • 175 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    for against City i would go 5-4-1

    Debuchy, Willo, MYM, Saylor, Haidara
    Santon, Tiote, Anita, Cabaye
    Shola!

    so that’s 5 in defence 4 in DM and 1 lonely striker coming deep.

    i know i know this is far too attacking for Pardew lol

    ;) :) ;) :) ;) :) ;) :)

  • 176 Ancientcoptic // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22640095

    ”The 2015 Europa League winners will qualify for the following season’s Champions League, Uefa has confirmed.”

    This changes everything ;)

  • 177 Sazzer // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    I don’t think Man U will go for Cabella as top target so if we can make deal happen early while they are still chasing Reus, Koke, Baines and Barkley then we can have deal on our hands. Also Dortmund might be in for him if they sell Reus so we better hurry up if there is small chance.

  • 178 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    jazzyp

    i really hope so mate, iv’e seen Cabella play and he’s awesome lets just hope our wishes come true ;)

  • 179 martoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    OhSholaAmeobi @170 – I don’t see much rotation there. With the exception of HBA & Cisse that is probably the team that will start against City

  • 180 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Black n white
    I had respect for your team until I saw you had put shola in lol, But yeah your right cabella is awesome and would be a massive show of intent and a boost in keeping our top players

  • 181 Ancientcoptic // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Man Utd have enough wingers/attacking midfielders as it is… I cannot see Cabella being on their radar, plus, I think Moyes will be buying players that are of a bigger frame.

    With Nani, Kagawa and Zaha sitting on the bench, they will be selling, not buying in that department.

  • 182 martoon // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Sorry I misread your post – that is your City team – I can’t see Pardew dropping Gouffran & Sissoko.

  • 183 nufc7lad // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    Happy Birthday Davide Santon and Loic Remy
    Linked with Cabella and Nigel De Jong today
    Adam cambpell scores on his debut
    great day for the Toon

  • 184 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM

    4-2-3-1 with the right players

    Debuchy, Willo, MYM, Haidara
    Cabaye, Tiote
    HBA, Sissoko, Cabella
    Remy

    subs – Elliot, Santon, Saylor, Anita, Marv, Gouffran, Cisse

    this could hurt any team.

    oh i forgot Laudrup as manager ( tongue in cheek )

  • 185 Sazzer // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    Cabella is more like a younger Ben-arfa with better footballing brain rather than the next Zidane.

    and the valuation was made from this guy:

    http://www.lemeilleurdupsg.com/images/news/image/Presidents/montpellier-nicollin_455.jpg

    that also valued Giroud at €60m.

  • 186 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    I have friends that are season ticket holders for St Mirren and they have been saying Campbell looks pretty good for them so far today ! they have Steven Thomson up front who will show him the ropes such as playing with his back to goal and winning free kicks etc

    He might be a bit small to play as a centre forward in the premiership but could come back as a wide left or right forward in a 433

  • 187 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    nufc7lad

    we are linked with Nigel De Jong? HBA won’t be too happy about that

  • 188 Blofal // Jan 2, 2014 at 4:06 PM

    Cisse would do well with the kind of crosses Cabella delivers.

    No matter who we get I just don’t trust Pardew to make the right decisions with this team.

  • 189 ebm // Jan 2, 2014 at 4:06 PM

    The kind of person who answered “no” on this poll is the kind of person who is disappointed if he got a car for christmas, because it isn’t a Porsche. It not realistic to go straight into the champions league, we will need to be in the europa league for some seasons before we can dream of the grand competition. Sorry if I offend anyone, just trying to make a point.

  • 190 cyprus // Jan 2, 2014 at 4:06 PM

    Is this q. a joke?

    Anyway, here’s mine:

    Do you want to see Newcastle relegated this year?

    Yes:

    No:

  • 191 jazzyp // Jan 2, 2014 at 4:27 PM

    If Newcastle don’t strive for European football then how are we ever supposed to attract the players of the calibre of cabella or the likes.The only reason the hierarchy wont want European football is that they have to spend

  • 192 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE // Jan 2, 2014 at 4:28 PM

    b+ w at 78 have not laughed so much for a while.are you being serious about laudrup turning marv and obertan into good players .swansea have less than two thirds of our points.he would need to be a magician to turn those two into decent players,even pards looks to have given up on ober even though he bought him. marv is obviously not doing it in training as as on the pitch we would have a job loaning those two out never mind selling them. debuchy is suspended for man city match .nice to see campbell scoring for st mirren .pards made a mistake in playing obertan in preference to him allimho

  • 193 scout // Jan 2, 2014 at 4:37 PM

    Post 142
    Pardews excuses after we get beat?????
    They’ve spent 400 million just on strikers in the last 6 years or something mad like that. Get a grip son, doesn’t really need an excuse.
    City should be turning us over ne bother the cash they’ve spent, can’t believe some of the tripe spouted on here after a couple of defeats, were still in a cracking position considering money spent and our wage bill. Pardew is doing a brilliant job and you always get shock results over Christmas. Keep the faith lads and lasses

  • 194 G // Jan 2, 2014 at 4:44 PM

    Whilst its difficult to see us getting a result against City, I can guaruntee that the foreign coaches will be there to watch their players, so the french lads / anita should put a shift in anyway, so we should at least see a performance from most of our team.

  • 195 Rotonda heights // Jan 2, 2014 at 5:01 PM

    Scout,

    How exactly is Pardew doing a brilliant job?. With the players we have, top 8 should be a given and minimum requirement.

    How is he doing a brilliant job when the world and his wife could see some players were running on empty and needed rotating and resting over the Christmas / new year period.

    We had Cisse, Ben Arfa, Haidara, MYM fresh as daisies and some like Marveaux nowhere to be seen.

    Pardew is not bright enough and too arrogant and obstinate to compete with the likes of the new breed of modern, progressive new managers and will always be found out as he has been time and time again when it really matters ( v Swansea, Hull, West Ham etc.)

    If you like 3 shots at goal per game then yes he is doing an amazing job.

    Pardew is a grade above Pulis and Allardyce but at the moment we are 8th in spite of Pardew not because of him.

    It’s a tragedy Ash won’t even have heard of the likes of Solksjaer and sadly probably nor has JFK!

  • 196 scout // Jan 2, 2014 at 6:48 PM

    The world and his wife?? Did you watch the arsenal game we could have nicked a draw quite easily. Why rotate the team against a team that hasn’t won in 9??
    Pardew is doing a brilliant job, live with it son.
    Minimum 8th ?? The same team nearly went down last season, lets see what your man does at Cardiff. Modern coaches. Mouriniho wouldn’t have us higher than pardew you don’t get it the players get him




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