Frenchman Again Tops Our Man Of The Match Poll


Ben Arfa has again topped our Man of the Match poll for yesterday’s shocking defeat against Cardiff City which give the visitors only their second win in the last eleven games, and to think they did that at St. James’ Park too. 🙁

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Hatem Ben Arfa – in action yesterday

Ben Arfa has 44% of the vote, and it seems whenever he starts a game, he ends up topping our poll, and Papiss Cisse, who had his first start in eons yesterday and scored a very good opportunist goal to put Newcastle in the lead – is second.

And young Massadio Haidara is third in the poll, and this lad will be pushing Davide Santon for the rest of the season for that starting left back position at Newcastle.

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426 comments so far

  • Dennis Twice

    Jan 5, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #1

    1st?

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  • HBA.10

    Jan 5, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #2
  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 5, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #3

    wolfshead

    you are obviously very selective in your reading then.
    if you weren’t you will see I have always given praise and criticism where it’s due.

    Right now normal service has been resumed as i knew it would be as pardew lacks the nous an intelligence to turn a good situation in to an excellent one.

    Harley

    I wasn’t being cocky but you seem to have trouble understanding the indisputable points people raised and validating your own.

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  • nufc7lad

    Jan 5, 2014 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #4

    MUST READ:

    Only four Everton players would get into our first X1. That means 7 of ours would get into theirs
    Baines
    Jagielka
    Deulofeu
    Lukaku

    I still believe we can finish above them
    They just have 2 truly world class players and a world class manager
    but we have neither
    but overall i think we have much more quality as opposed to them and i think we can pip them the 7th and europa 🙂

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  • theartfuldodger

    Jan 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #5

    We look like a club relying on luck for anything above 10th.

    Transfers based on luck. Wait and hope for a club to give in.
    (and no we dont do our business in jan)
    I agree with one of the comments that were always 2-3 players short. Despite options of loans and < 10m players around.
    If we are gonna use the bargain and wait tactic then do it in spain belgium too, why only france.

    Even in games we take the lead and rely on luck by sitting back. Interesting point made yesterday how the same players in the same formation suddenly drop off and sit back.

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  • Ciaran

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #6

    Nufclad

    McCarthy, Barkley and Coleman would all get in our team, and Howard is as good a keeper, if not better, than Krul.

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  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #7

    With Pardew we will always die wondering.

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #8

    Ed why so many non-story articles so close to each other? It disrupts the conversations here.

    The last time I post this lads don’t worry 🙂

    Repost:

    Transfer Sage- To an extent I agree on your Pardew assessment also. Pardew does tend to sit back on a one goal lead and that is infuriating. We can do better, but remember can do so much worse as it is Ashley who will decide what manager to bring in, and honestly his football decisions scare the hell out of me. Better the devil you know I guess. Tbf to Pardew he hasn’t had the luxury of a Shearer upfront like some of our past managers have had and we still beat Man U at Old Trafford this season with this current squad, without a proper out and out striker. We can’t compare our forward line to the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal as they have quality in abundance. We have a more than a decent squad that just needs that extra bit of tweaking to make it a huge success, if only Ashley could see that.

    We need more of a goal threat and now more than ever without Demba Ba and a goal shy Cisse. I would also like to see us have a Roberto Martinez type of manager that doesn’t sit back on a one goal lead but he ain’t going anywhere soon so let’s focus on what we need and what can be improved on and that is our squad of players. All this negativity around Pardew is a bit over-dramatic I feel as only recently we were doing really well beating the top 4 and giving them a right go. We even drew level with Liverpool with 10 men on the field for an entire half, I can’t remember the last time we did something like that.

    It’s easy to point the finger at Pardew because he plays it safe way too many times but you can’t hide the fact he has improved our team in general and we are slowly improving under him. If we could make bigger strides forward under another manager is open to question but until his contract is up we’ll have to put up with him I am afraid.

    I dream of the day Strolla leaves and we sign a proper ST that scores and creates ffs. That will be the day. Too long has he kept us back and too long managers have been deceived and folled into thinking he is a ‘footballer’ let alone a ‘striker’ to score goals and take us up the league.

    We lack the layers and never have fully recovered since the great Alan Shearer left us. Owen was supposed to be the answer and we all know how that twat sent us back years.

    As I mentioned we keep shooting ourselves in the foot and it’s so frustrating to watch. Now that we have the pacey Bellamy type player we needed in Remy he’s only here on loan and we’ll probably have to look again at the end of the season. The same happened with Carroll and Demba Ba although Carroll is an exception as I would have taken that money too, it was a crazy bid from Liverpool that did us a huge favour tbh, look at the great squad we have now because of it.

    STs and CAMs is what we need to take us to the next level so let’s pray that Ashley delivers this January.

    PS Sorry for the very long post.

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #9

    Oh and this and that’s it honest lol

    Repost:

    Rotonda – Marveaux really is a mystery as he was doing the business only to be left out of the cold ala Anita. The thing with Anita is that he hasn’t stopped trying to impress Pardew and maybe Marveaux has in training. Who knows? I really do wonder what the deal is with him as I like him as a CAM. Though sometimes he does go missing in games. We can’t really blame Pardew on that one as we don’t know the full strory, maybe his attitude stinks?

    What I hate about Pardew is his reliance on Strolla. Last season it was with Gutierrez, and that was obviously not our best option. This year thankfully Strolla hasn’t featured as much, but the fact is he shouldn’t be anywhere near our team. The same goes with Obertan. The guy is also useless. Makes me look like a football superstar. We need to get rid of this dead wood and there is no point risking playing them to put them in the ‘shopwindow’ if it’s going to cost us points!

    The sooner we get rid of them players the sooner we’ll improve and move forward.

    Just imagine if we replaced them with Carr’s recommended players.

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #10

    I couldn’t see the match v Cardiff but from what I heard Haidara was in thick of everything in attack and defense, so my vote goes to him.

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  • mindshaft

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #11

    I imagine most people voting on this didn’t actually see the game yesterday and are simply vote ng for hba because they’ve read he hit the bar / post – in truth it was the same old hba basically playing for himself when others were better placed – if he actually knew when to pass rather than trying to take on another player he could be world class, as it is we can’t afford to have him in the team as a starter

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #12

    Ben Ten for me. He tries even if he does not always succeed, unlike the big duck egg, Sissoko.

    As for Saylor, at least he told it how it was, unlike Pardew who claimed we were the better side, adding more bizarre excuses to his repertoire: “science” and the ref putting his whistle to his mouth and confusing his players by not blowing. Excruciatingly embarrassing, Alan!

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  • magpie6699

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #13

    mindshaft – inclined to agree about HBA yesterday – and I was at the game too. He had some great moments in the first half but after that very little. `he didn’t seem to put himself in positions where he could be fed the ball as much as I would like. I would put Hairdryer and Tiote ahead of him – although the bast players were probably Williamson and Cabaye for mot being part of that shambles!

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  • mindshaft

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #14

    Pard’s is going nowhere, his target set by Ashley was top ten and we’ll probably manage that.
    Let’s face it, Ashley is not going to splash out on a new manager anytime soon, Pard’s is cheap and doesn’t ask for money for players and although he’s not the most tactically aware or have the team playing expansive freeflowing football he’s a safe pair of hands
    We should gave gone for Martinez who would be a puppet but have us playing better football

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  • JackButler

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #15

    nufc7lad

    the difference is that Everton have a manager who gets the best out of his players while Pardew is only capable of getting bare minimum out of his

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  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #16

    Alan Pardew has now full weeks to visit Bars and pick up chicks.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #17

    B&B

    the science one is the best yet !!

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  • belgrade fan

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #18

    Demba Ba not even on the bench today. Really killing his career. We should take him back

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #19

    Difference between Everton and us. Is the manager.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #20

    jp

    good points there

    I know pardew is in this for the long haul, as although i don’t like his style, other than last season he has done what has been expected of him by the club.

    I agree better players would help us as even i wuld get better results if i had a better squad surely.

    I don’t know how much better we’d be under martinez, i just think stability is fine but where is the excitement and real progression? Sometimes it’s nice to just make a change to see what happens, good or bad…providing the change is well planned out it has every chance to succeed, as much as it has to fail anyway.

    And if i wanted stability i’d be an arsenal fan, i support newcastle as i like the rollercoaster ride, more fun being u up and down haha.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #21

    JP – Don’t get carried away – Haidara played okay and showed some sign of promise.

    I’ve just been watching Adam Campbell playing for St Mirren. I’ve yet to see anything to give me an indication that he might come good. I noticed in particular that their big defender easily beat the wee ginger speed merchant for pace.

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  • bills-son

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #22

    Sissoko for me might be another ‘could be’ player like HBA.

    He looks the part when he is in full flow, does some really good things but there is just something missing from his game. He gets the ball caught in his feet ala Obertan and his passing leaves alot to be desired. One goal this season is a poor return as well.

    Those who compared him to Yaya Toure when he first came are way wide of the mark.

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  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #23

    TS

    You think Pardew will be sacked if we finished 11th 12th or 13th?

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #24

    Rotonda – Pardew has excelled himself with those two excuses, which are from the top draw. They have something of David Icke about them!

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #25

    Watch Barcelona vs Leche in La Copa del Rey at the moment. The pace they have all over the pitch is frightening. No one jogging around waiting for the ball, they make intelligent runs all over crying for the ball and the pace each of them have is incredible, let alone their skill.

    If only we could match those intelligent runs and inject a bit more pace in the team we could perhaps do something similar to a Barcelona B Team and that is still better than us. It would be an improvement. I watch our games and the movement and passing is horrid sometimes. No movement, no runs, no imagination. Then when we do make runs we over hit the ball and give it away, so frustrating and even more painful when you see so many teams do it so easily.

    That’s not a dig at Pardew as that has been happening for more than 5 years at least. So sad.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #26

    Now that Solksjaer is no longer an option, would have been very good mind, who is there now out there.

    I know it won’t happen but just for fun. Ie modern, progressive, footballing, good to watch, play to win, expansive, passing style etc:-

    I’ll start us off

    Bergkamp
    Billy Davies
    Maguire (Burnley)
    Bielsa

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #27

    B&B

    You must be psychic!!

    Notice also how science is against him personally, not the team!

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #28

    Bill-son – Ben Ten is so much better than Sissoko. One never hides whereas the other tries his best to.

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  • Harley

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #29

    Retonda

    By saying “top of the class” in a condescending manner trust me, you were being cocky!!

    So which points have I not taken on board, I’m all ears?

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  • JackButler

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #30

    It’s amazing that Pardew was left ‘Bemused’ by yesterday’s defeat as there is nothing to be bemused about, we simply weren’t good enough to win.

    We’ve gained the amount of points that should be expected with the squad we have and victories over some of the big boys have papered over the cracks of the shocking performances against the likes of Swansea, Hull and Everton to name but a few and after yet another limp exit at at the first attempt in the FA cup highlights the obvious failings of the manager we have

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #31

    JP

    Would love to go down the spanish route, even Wenger now gets german and spanish players, hardly a french player left at arsenal now. So yesterday.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #32

    harley

    sorry I forgot i wrote that. apologies

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #33

    TS- I’ve been on the rollercoaster ride of NUFC for too long now and quite frankly I am getting really sick of it lol. I love it at times as it keeps us on our toes and you never know what to expect from NUFC. But if we ever want to become successful we have to have some stability to progress and stop the extreme lows from happening on such a regular basis.

    I just wish Ashley opens his eyes and wallet this window or the next and goes for real glory. Surely it can’t be that hard to win a cup? Champions League is also within our grasp if only… but that is the biggest word in football- ‘IF’ :/

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  • JackButler

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #34

    Rotonda heights

    It doesn’t matter who’s out there as an obvious better option to Pardew as Ashley will never install a manager with a voice of his own.

    A club of this stature and standing should have been in the mix for the Rodgers, Laudrup, Martinez etc etc but that is never gonna happen hence the eight year contract, which is such a shame as with one simple change everything could be so much better

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  • Tinman

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #35

    HBA man of the match? He was just walking around in the second half, not the first time he has done it either

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #36

    HD

    His very modest target was top 10 so yes he should be if he doesn’t attain that.

    Trouble is he can finish 16th every season and ash won’t pay him off.

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  • Ciaran

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #37

    Discussions about new managers are absolutely pointless for 2 reasons:

    1) Mid-table and out of the cups is exactly where Ashley wants us to be, therefore Pardew is exactly what MA wants.

    2) No other semi-decent manager would even consider working under Ashley, and even if they did, they wouldn’t work under him for long.

    Discussions about transfer targets are equally pointless.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #38

    Rotonda – I noticed that. However, if I was psychic, I’d would know whether he had a particular scientific discipline in mind or whether it was just science in general that was against him.

    “It put my players off, a little bit, when Ole’s face turned into an alien’s in the lead up to their second goal, if I’m honest. We need to concentrate on exorcisms and we’ll be working hard in training next week on that, 100%. This is a massive club and if we’re going to perform in front of 50,000 fans, we will have to deal with purple alien scenarios much better than we did today.”

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  • Novocastrian66

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #39

    There’s no way Bill Davies is an upgrade on Pardew.

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  • JackButler

    Jan 5, 2014 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #40

    Ciaran

    99.9% of what is discussed on here is pointless in one way or another as nothing is going to change, not the owner, director of football, manager, tactics, wasted sub’s…………………..nothing!

    It was best put by Talking Head’s when they said – “We’re on a road to nowhere”

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