Some Disturbing News Concerning Yohan Cabaye


Newcastle’s top midfielder Yohan Cabaye signed a five-year contract at around £60K/week in June of 2011,  and in the summer he will have two years left on that contract.

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Yohan Cabaye – two and a half years left at Newcastle
And there is some worrying news being reported in the Telegraph today, that Yohan Cabaye could buy out the last two years of his contract at Newcastle.

And it seems that Newcastle United could lose Yohan Cabaye for less than £6M if indeed Cabaye takes up the option of buying out the last two years of his contract – which is around £3M per year.

The law that allows this is called the “Webster Rule”, and it’s under Article 17 of the FIFA transfer rules, which can be read here.

A player is allowed to cancel his contract without just cause as long as he pays his employer – in this case Newcastle United – the remainder of his contract, which in Yohan’s case would be two years at £3M a year – around £6M.

And while that is almost 50% more than we paid for Yohan from Lille, it’s still a lot less than what he is worth today, since he has become a much better player while at Newcastle.

And of course what can happen here is that clubs who are interested in signing Cabaye could give him a signing on fee, which magically includes that £6M, and it’s still a lot less than they would have to pay for him in the transfer market in the summer.

Remember that Arsenal bid £11M for him last August and that was quickly turned down by Newcastle, who valued him closer to £20M.

We just hope that this news doesn’t give Yohan Cabaye some ideas, but he would need to be very dissatisfied with life at Newcastle for him to take this path, although he did go on strike in August, which was not a wise move by the Frenchman.

And with 18 games still left in the season and our squad almost fully fit, Newcastle still have a good chance of finishing high up in the league table.

And Cabaye could be part of that, and also the potential comeback of Newcastle United into being a top club again.

That’s what we would like to see.

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79 comments so far

  • G

    Jan 9, 2014 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #1

    Well, we have 5 and a bit months to sort this out. I would suggest JFK gets on it.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 9, 2014 at 11:49 PM

    Comment #2

    In other news, St James’ Park could be hit be a meteorite, we could sign 5 players this transfer window and I could win the lottery…

    Pointless speculation. Far too much of this in the media today. Exactly how often has this actually happened? The article says that most contracts include clauses to prevent this from happening.

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  • Ancientcoptic

    Jan 9, 2014 at 11:52 PM

    Comment #3

    “Article 17 of FIFA’s Regulations for the Status and Transfer of Players has a section on “Consequences of Terminating a Contract Without Just Cause”. It states that any player who signed a contract before the age of 28 can buy himself out of the contract three years after the deal was signed.”

    Man Utd look are going to be in the same position with Rooney; although I think this is quite a rare thing to happen, as clubs do not like having compensation cases hanging over their heads.

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  • gfp13

    Jan 9, 2014 at 11:52 PM

    Comment #4

    Not all owners or managers will have the same mind set as me but if I knew of playing buying out his contract in order to go to another team would that not then make you a bit paranoid that he will do the same to your club… Unless of course you are the likes of Barcelona and Real Madrid where the only way is down. I would stay well clear of any players buying a contract out and I assume a few owners would share my view and not sign him on that basis

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  • darrylwe

    Jan 9, 2014 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #5

    Has anyone got any examples of when this has happened? Surely it would be common place if it was as easy as that.

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  • Moe

    Jan 9, 2014 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #6

    If we lose him then we lose him. It might be a lesson for the club not to depend too much on a single player.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 9, 2014 at 11:58 PM

    Comment #7

    70TWO

    Your last post doesn’t make much sense. We don’t need to tout our players for sale! Every club knows that every player has his price. Only one club thought Carroll’s price was £35M though…

    The club has money to spend and we don’t need to sell any first team players.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:03 AM

    Comment #8

    I think we do rely very heavily on 4 key players, most notably Cabs, but also Collo, Tiote and Remy, and also perhaps Krul. All teams do of course, but of the better sides we are the most vulnerable in this way.

    When any of those guys are missing our chances dip considerably, and also exponentially of course the more that are out, particularly against top sides.

    Man City, for example, bloody ‘ell.

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  • 2_goal_tino

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:03 AM

    Comment #9

    This surely can’t be the case. If this were true wouldn’t the vast majority of transfers just be for free with players being compensated on arrival at their new club? Most players’ contracts are less than their transfer value.

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  • MassiveG

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #10

    I really think we should be doing everything we can to support Newcastle so if it’s true about Pellegrini not knowing City needed one more goal to top their group, then I think putting info like this on a site which, who knows, Cabaye’s agent or another club may read we risk it becoming a self fulfilling prophecy so pipe down on loopholes on our players’ contracts and focus on potential signings!

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  • Liciouz

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:09 AM

    Comment #11

    This rule is very controversial, and in general not used at all unless the player for some reason is bench. At the time of the ruling on Webster, several clubs made it clear that they would sue any of their players attempting the same.

    Actually, perhaps the most famous player who has ever applied this ruling is our own Jonas Gutierrez as he moved to us from Mallorca.

    http://metro.co.uk/2008/07/04/newcastles-jonas-deal-in-doubt-247940/

    It’s so far-fetched in big football clubs today that I’m not even slightly worried.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:18 AM

    Comment #12

    All these ‘could’ articles are annoying. We ‘could’ sign 4 players this window, we ‘could’ sign nobody…now Cabaye ‘could’ buy himself out of his contract IF a range of unlikely circumstances exist.

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  • ochytoon

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:19 AM

    Comment #13

    I’m sure Cabaye keeps £6 million around his house. Another pointless article on this blog, and another reason why I don’t comment anymore

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #14

    Krul could leave this summer
    Remy could leave this summer
    Cabaye could leave this summer
    Colo could leave this summer
    Debuchy could leave this summer
    Ben Arfa could leave this summer
    Pardew could get sacked this season
    JFK could be caretaker manager again
    We could sign nobody this window
    We could get relegated…

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #15

    Very good review of the Fans Forum on the true faith site.
    It seems more and more “observers” either disbelieve or distrust NUFC. This certainly should not be the case between fans and the club -it seems to me that NUFC really do not understand the reasons why these types of forums are recommended by UEFA. Link to article:-
    http://www.true-faith.co.uk/true-faith-fans-forum-alternative-view/?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:29 AM

    Comment #16

    OR

    We could sell no first team players this window
    We could sign 4 players this window to strengthen the squad
    Remy could sign permanently this summer
    Cabaye could sign a new contract
    We could qualify for the Champions League…

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  • 70TWO

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #17

    ToonDarnSarf

    My assumptions are based on impressions, so may be slightly confused. However, as Ashley is foremost a retailer I presume that as well as looking for cheap players to buy, he would also be looking for the biggest returns. If you were another football club owner would you not be cautious about approaching NUFC for a supposed ‘top’ player?

    Currently there are a number of players that need to be moved on and probably have minimal value, as a self sustaining business how will NUFC afford to purchase reasonable upgrades without high value outward transfers? I might be wrong here when considering the TV revenue, but is that enough to sustain the club when other sources are supposedly low?

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #18

    I think a professional footballer after ten odd years as a pro and on
    60 000 quid a week for the past 3 years is almost certainly potentially very capable of buying out the last 2 years of his contract.

    Although obviously it would not the best for us, I’d still think more power to him if he did, and can’t see anything unjust about it. It’s his life and his skill set.

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  • ochytoon

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:33 AM

    Comment #19

    jimmysmith
    You over estimate the intelligence of footballers

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #20

    Mister Tuff

    Sadly, yet again an article full of holes sadly…

    For example, it’s really stupid when people keep mentioning our attendance in terms of making us more attractive to sponsors. What could is an extra few thousand in the ground when the likes of Liverpool and Chelsea will have millions more viewers worldwide?

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  • Anita the Legend

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:39 AM

    Comment #21

    What a load of old cobblers.

    Why would any team pay the ridiculous fees that they do for players? Amounts like £50million plus are common place. Every team would just quietly explain that the player needs to but himself out then they’ll pay him back.

    There’s no way it’s possible. It can’t even be legal!

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:39 AM

    Comment #22

    Didn’t we pay Mallorca a compensation for Jonas anyway regardless of the Webster ruling?

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:41 AM

    Comment #23

    Cabs doesn’t strike me as an unthinking person, and I believe intelligent people are more likely to suffer from depression, so I reckon Cabs might be able to pull together the funds if needs be.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:44 AM

    Comment #24

    70TWO

    Many of the figures bandied around are misleading. E.g. the outsourcing reduces revenue but increases profit.

    Other clubs know that we won’t let players go on the cheap…and you see that as a negative?? There will be regular dialogue between our club and a club interested in one of our players. If we want to sell then we can quote a lower price. But why should we want to sell our top players unless we get huge money for them? Look at what Spurs did with Modric and Bale.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:45 AM

    Comment #25

    TDS – please explain -full of holes.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #26

    Why is going on strike not a “wise” move. He doesn’t seem to have suffered at all and it’s a very clear way of expressing unhappiness and flexing and exploring the power of your own position. It’s certainly a courageous thing to do.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:55 AM

    Comment #27

    Mister Tuff

    I already gave one example already. It’s too late for me to read and analyse it thoroughly but it’s not a balanced report with sweeping statements based on pure speculation.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 10, 2014 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #28

    Jimmy

    No. It’s a cowardly and stupid thing to do. And probably backfired for him as it shows a character weakness. I wonder if Wenger was put off by this attitude rather than Cabaye turning in barnstorming performances to convince Arsenal to up their bid…

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:01 AM

    Comment #29

    TDS – do you think, perhaps, there could be any non evidenced claims by the club.

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  • lesh

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #30

    According to the Torygraph article, Cabaye IS looking into the buy-out option. How true though, we’ll just have to wait and see.

    The article includes the following paragraph:

    ‘Some clubs insert additional clauses into their contracts to guard against players leaving like this, but Newcastle have refused to comment when asked whether Cabaye is able to take advantage of the Webster Rule.’

    The club has refused to comment, that could speak volumes!

    Knowing what little we do about the footballing expertise among those running the club, that paragraph is worrying! If there’s no such clause in Cabaye’s or any other player’s contract, that might explain Kinnear’s recruitment – not that he’d make any difference though.

    We’ve just got to hope that Charnley’s been on the ball with such a clause.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:08 AM

    Comment #31

    I don’t know that its reasonable to say categorically he behaved in a cowardly or stupid way or that he showed a weakness in character. He may have felt the offer was a reasonably fair one and that the club was unreasonably impeding his professional and personal progress by not entering into serious negotiation and of course he like all of us is fully entitled to withdraw his labor if he feels he’s being poorly treated.

    I don’t know enough about the whys and wherefores of what went on to start calling him a cowardly, stupid or lacking in character over it.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:09 AM

    Comment #32

    Mister Tuff

    What do you mean?

    I think, perhaps, many things are possible but I choose to not always assume the negative possibilities are any more likely than the positive possibilities.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM

    Comment #33

    Jimmy

    Footballers have hugely paid contracts, they are not like you and
    I. If he wanted to leave he should have handed in a transfer request but should have continued to do his job.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:15 AM

    Comment #34

    TDS – I’m trying to nudge you into taking a middle stance in the absence of any visible/researchable evidence. A reasonable observers view I suggest

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  • Ciaran

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:18 AM

    Comment #35

    Mark

    Calm down, surely Mike cannot be paying you to work your spin to all hours of the morning.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:22 AM

    Comment #36

    Mister Tuff

    I do take a middle stance. I criticise the club for terrible PR, for not leaving the door publicly ajar to the NUST and media, for giving free advertising to a commercial partner (SD) and for not doing more to bridge the gap between owner and fans.

    That’s enough to take up with the club really. There’s no need to add other stuff that is made up, exaggerated or misunderstood.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:26 AM

    Comment #37

    How does the size of a contract, effect an employees right to challenge an employer.

    Also slapping in a transfer request, why is that necessarily the correct course of action.

    Actually, I’m starting to labour the point a little. I simply tend to support the idea individualism and meritocracy and am naturally suspicious of the fairness of contracts in football.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:35 AM

    Comment #38

    TDS – agreed they have terrible PR – I did a piece on Percy’s PR a couple of years ago -from his West Ham days to his current position. Not much has changed. Some time ago I sent them an email complaining about their response to the damage caused – to the lads playing amateur football at Wigan. Their response had been -“it’s got nothing to do with us”. They had in the meantime realised their PR gaffe and rectified matters. In the end they got a fantastic PR result. It seems they do not see the best opportunities initially.

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  • manxpie

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:37 AM

    Comment #39

    this just goes to show players and agents have all the power
    even tho this report has just picked cabeye it could have picked probably 100 players in the same situation!
    and the fact its the mirror is sour grapes for me
    storm in a teacup springs to mind!

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 10, 2014 at 1:40 AM

    Comment #40

    Jimmy

    Well every footballer could play on a week by week contract if they really wanted to. But they don’t want the flexibility because it goes both ways…the club could get rid of them if they were no longer needed. A player can’t have it one way without the other.

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