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Pardew’s Encouragement For French Winger Standard Practice

1:08 pm, Saturday, January 11th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 77 Comments

Alan Pardew was asked in his press conference yesterday about Sylvain Marveaux, who has hardly had a look-in a Newcastle this season, after playing well for a lot of  last season, and Sylvan is certainly a very skillful footballer, there’s no doubt about that.

Sylvain Marveaux West+Ham

Sylvain Marveaux in action

A number of Newcastle fans have been perplexed that Marveaux hardly makes the bench these days, and Alan had this to say about his former French U21 International winger in the local press:

“He’s in the squad, but he’s not getting on the bench at the minute.” “I’m sure between now and the end of February he’ll be used. He’s training well.”

“I have absolutely no problems with him.” “There’s room for Marveaux to come through into the team.”

Any player at Newcastle who trains hard and is in good form,  has a chance to make the Newcastle first team, and that’s got to be the way it is.

A good example of that is Mike Williamson, who last summer wasn’t thought to have much future at Newcastle,  and he was behind Coloccini, Steven Taylor and Yanga-Mbiwa in the pecking order of center-backs in August.

But Mike came on against Everton when we 3-0 down at half time, and e was solid, and Mike’s showed his best form ever at Newcastle since that game – so he’s a great role model for those like Sylvain trying to get back into the team, and even back into the match-day squad.

And Alan Pardew has pointed Mike out as a good example:

“Mike Williamson is an example of someone who wasn’t anywhere near the first team.” “He found an opportunity, and took it.” “He will play – 100%.”

Of course these are good problems to have as a manager, and Alan also said that Sammy Ameobi has been looking great in training, but he  hasn’t  had any chance to give him  many games in the first team.

But once the team starts losing – like we’ve done in the last three games – other players must be given a chance.

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77 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    Anyone noticed the crap that Kevin Nolan is getting from West Ham fans recently?

    Makes it a poor decision to give him a 5 year contract on high wages just 2 years ago doesn’t it? I think Pardew said at the time that he didn’t see Nolan as being a first team player for Newcastle in 2016.

    Nolan wanted to go because West Ham were going to throw money at him past his sell by date, he left to maximise his income, just as Defoe has done by going to the US.

  • 2 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

    Must be a commitment thing. He’s obviously not written off or Pards wouldnt be talking about using him.

    S&TD – I dont know how to answer your question about Beattie’s er..feistiness etc without offending you er him er…

  • 3 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Has anyone else seen NUFC.COM’s list of ‘coincidental’ New Year holidays Kev has had since leaving us? WHU should be livid with that record. I knew a lad who used to go on weekend binges to Blackpool and hardly ever made monday mornings into work. Guess how long his employer took to eject him from the premises…….I mean…Blackpool…

  • 4 bills-son // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Nolan is like Cisse, if he’s not scoring he doesn’t contribute much to the team.

    Having said that he was still a very good player for us and one of the best captains we’ve had in a while.

  • 5 toonbrother // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM

    I don’t get it earlier this week you said:
    “It’s obvious that Sylvain Marveaux and Gabriel Obertan do not have any future at Newcastle”
    Why don’t you acknowledge you were dead wrong ?
    Pardews comments are definitely egg in your face. Same way you prematutrely pronounced Williamson’s career at Nufc to be over not too long ago.

  • 6 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    toonbrother – I think that was a reasonable assumption given Obertan being dropped from the bench and Marveaux not even being mentioned up to now. Hardly egg in anyones face, unlike the omelette you keep slapping yourself with regarding your assertio that Colo is a poor defender. Thats a whole load of egg right there :)

  • 7 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:29 PM

    So if Nolan only scores 12 a season including a brace and hatrick, he didn’t contribute anything to the team about 70% of the time ???

  • 8 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    He shouldn’t have been given a five year contract but the club could have done more to keep him, but the stasi wanted him out.

  • 9 kilcline // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    Who we should sign:

    Richards – Not a city starter, potential England CB/RB
    Ince – Will add goals from midfield and £4m is a snip
    De Jong – Loan, worth a punt, his game will suit the prem

  • 10 bills-son // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:34 PM


    I said he was a very good player for us.

    But if he isn’t scoring he’s not the most mobile or creative of midfield players. I didn’t think my point was so diffcult to understand.

  • 11 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    OK so I might just be catching up with the buzz frm the twitfactory, but whats this Paul Georges Ntep like that we are suppoeed to be stalking?

    Also whats this about Remy being ordered by a court in France to have a paternity test? Its all going on down there with Loic, innit?

  • 12 Ben3arfa // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    our management team bores me to death

  • 13 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    ‘Leeds ‘aving ‘terrible’time at’ ‘Sheffield like, tha knows. Down t’ ten men, an’ 4 goals past ‘keeper Paddy McGinty.

    Thats one thing I dont miss about ‘championship – I can hear a crowd but theres nobody in the seats.

  • 14 jimiley // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    We need to keep the faith in Big Joe and Pardew to get 2 or 3 new signings over the line in January. There is no reason other than greed why Ashers could not release 15 million to sign a few decent players in January and we could then kick on for a Champions League spot.

  • 15 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    Makes me laugh that Jimmy Carr joke about the yorkshire accent – they say things like ‘tin tin tin’. It means ‘It Isn’t in the tin.’


    Simple things, I know. But good clean family fun.

  • 16 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    jimiley – I think this transfer window will tell us a lot, more so than any in the last few years. By the time we get to summer there will be little doubt about ambition, intent, call it what you will. If Mike decides the purse strings stay tight and we slip down to the bottom half well……

  • 17 jimiley // Jan 11, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    We should be buying but I have a feeling we might get a loan and a 17 year old. The theatre of hope is turning into one of disappointment and despair. If the ambition for the club is merely Premiership survival, what is the point?

  • 18 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:03 PM


    I don’t think it’s unlikely that they were uncomfortable with player power in the dressing room, look at what Fergie did when players got too big for their boots!

    But from what I understand, we offered him a new contract but he wanted us to match what West Ham offered so we got rid.

    He’s used to being the main man and leader in the dressing room and doesn’t like it when he doesn’t get his way.

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    I can see the way one could say about Cisse offering nothing if he doesn’t score, but Nolan didn’t score most games yet was still a good player while offering nothing if he didn’t score, on the contrary I think your point is very hard to understand !

  • 20 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:08 PM

    Sorry like Pardew, but jf Marveaux is training well yet Obertan makes the bench ahead of him then there is no excuse.

    As for all the people saying he was unfit or doesn’t train well can eat their words. He is the perfect player to sub for Cabaye when he gets tired IMO .

  • 21 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:15 PM

    Fancy having the nerve to have a voice in Big Mikes regime.

  • 22 lesh // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    Looks as though another if our reported targets could be on the move. Hull’ve bid for Shane Long.

    The cynic in me feels that by waiting until the end of the window before bidding (if at all), we’ll miss them.

    Then and well well, could we hear about problems with agents, fees being too high, player demands too great, target not being available etc etc bring churned out as reasons for another window without strengthening.

    Why do we have to endure these rituals year after year? Because they’re trying to sell season/ half season tickets – cynical? Moir?

  • 23 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    Players like Nolan and Barton were popular with our fans because they come across as just simple blokes that the typical working class fan would go to the pub with. But that doesn’t always make them suitable for a modern football club. Barton is a passionate loudmouth thug who doesn’t understand the intricacies of a hierarchical business and Nolan is an old fashioned footballer who likes to be the main man.

    They both did well for us on the pitch but I wouldn’t take either of them now, even at their peak.

  • 24 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:26 PM



    The players are the most important people when it comes to match day, but what right does a 28 year old poorly educated dumb footballer have to question his billionaire entrepreneur boss?

    When Stam, Beckham and Keane questioned things at Man Utd, they were shipped out. If it’s good enough for Man Utd…

  • 25 MadisonToon // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:29 PM


    We’re never going to get involved in a bidding war so by waiting until the last week of the window we know players who aren’t seriously being looked into by other clubs and then they are likely to be subject to only our bid.

    Not that I defend the policy, just that it is how I’ve tried to make sense of our transfer dealings in the past few seasons. Debuchy was the only player that we knew we needed/wanted and got the work done ahead of time (and one of the few players who we actually paid full price for…maybe because it was at the beginning of a window).

  • 26 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    So the all round modern footballer has an intricate knowledge of the complex nature of hierarchical business methods and is more likely to be spotted with the FT sipping Earl Grey than with a pint reading the Sun or Mirror.

  • 27 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    I listened to Pardews presser on Total sport and got the impression that we’d only buy someone if we sell somebody, he didn’t really give anything away

  • 28 Mister Tuff // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:35 PM

    Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2014 at 10:52 AM @13 previous thread you posted.

    Are mister tuff and Shearer and the duchess one and the same? not complaining, twice the fun!!!

    Rotonda – what – how can you make such an error – to suggest I am that bounder Shearer and the Duchess is
    laughable. Clearly I am the only true gentleman on the blog – not the imposter Shearer. I suspect he is a ruffian
    who is trying to raise himself to my level. Please no more of this nonsense – the imposter needs a damn good thrashing.

  • 29 Ancientcoptic // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    I have to laugh at Spurs playing Adebayor over Holtby, is this what they really sacked AVB for.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Palace hold them to a draw.

  • 30 Ciaran // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    Fergie admitted that letting Stam go was the biggest regret of his career – doesn’t always work.

  • 31 elpaso_geordie // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    ‘ Alan also said that Sammy Ameobi has been looking great in training, but he hasn’t had any chance to give him many games in the first team.’

    How about using him against Cardiff rather than bring on Obertan who has absolutely no future at the toon… Surely Sammi should be getting some game time ahead of players that are without doubt not good enough and we are desparate to get rid of.
    Sammi must be thinking WTF is going on here

  • 32 kevymartins // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    @Ancientcoptic better not I need spurs and Arsenal for a cool
    £80 …

  • 33 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    let’s be honest Marveaux isn’t Percy’s type of player. Far too technical and skilful to be coached by someone of Pardew’s calibre

    Re Nolan, slow, hardly creative and not even able to get on to the hopeful flick ons from a big lump up front any more.

  • 34 wolfshead@toon // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    and for anyone wondering what a true gentleman looks like…

  • 35 Ciaran // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM


    What about Cabaye? Debuchy? Remy? These are technically gifted players who seem to be performing quite well under Pardew’s stewardship.

    Nothing to do with the fact that Marv is a lazy git?

  • 36 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    mister Tuff

    Humble apologies. It’s just that some of his language had a similar ring to your good self.

  • 37 Mister Tuff // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    wolfshead -I suspected some sort of cheeky comment from yourself. You should know what your station is in life and not go beyond. You rather rude suggestion in your link is disgraceful. I have no need in participating the activity suggested -I’m certainly not a tadger tugger and never will be.

  • 38 Mister Tuff // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Rotonda – apology accepted. That fellow Shearer and the Duchess is clearly a rascal.

  • 39 Our Toon // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:06 PM


    Players like HBA and Marv are doomed as Percy has no clue how best to utilise them, it’s a shame but common theme throughout Percy’s career, I’m not convinced by Remy…..we often blast other players for lack of consistency well Remy has 1 goal in 9 games and that was against 9 man stoke

    McGeady has joined Everton undisclosed fee!! Don’t worry though we will wait till the last week whilst we try to penny pinch as much as possible

  • 40 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:08 PM


    Do you not think that being the top assister of last season ahead of Cabaye and others despite playing a fraction of the time was not worth some coaching time, investment and input, rather than oh no you’re a lazy git not worth persisting with. Surely a competent coach can address that more positively ?

    The goal he made for Ba at Arsenal and others for Cisse was sensational ability that should be tapped in to, not thrown on the scrapheap of English football as another victim of possessing flair, instead of running as fast as you can, kicking as far as you can and jumping as high as you can.!

    Cisse, Benny and Marv don’t become bad overnight but need a proper technical coach

  • 41 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:08 PM


    No. They mostly know when to keep their gobs’ shut though. Neither Nolan or Barton knew that.

  • 42 nufc_eire // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    It’d be just lovely if newcastle could swap these lads over the next couple of windows

    Obertan -> Menez
    Gutierrez -> Matuidi
    Marveaux -> Cabella
    Coloccini -> Kaboul
    Williamson -> Richards
    Shola -> De Jong/some other tall class striker

    Please and thank you!

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Out Toon,
    Would that be the same McGeady that we were linked with and would provide a much needed injection of talent on the wing.

  • 44 wolfshead@toon // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:11 PM


    humblest apologies i clicked on the wrong image this is the one i meant to post

    although reading your condescending comments about station in life you would do well to study the document carefully to reasses the notion of a gentleman 😉

  • 45 Our Toon // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:16 PM


    I personally think the lad is very average but better than Obertan off the bench!! I just find it amazing how it takes us an age to complete a deal, we haven’t even made a formal offer for de Jong who’s apparently out top target!! I don’t even think de Jong is any good

    Remy Cabella is the only one who I think would improve to the starting 11 that we’ve been linked to, shame Wolfsburg are close to signing Kevin De Bruyne from Chelsea (player who looks really good)

  • 46 Mister Tuff // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    wolfshead -an excellent link -the true gentleman – well it could describe me to a tee.

  • 47 Ancientcoptic // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    Remy has scored 10 goals and created 18 chances… according to the stats, that is better than Negredo & Lukaku.

    I would put his lack of goals down to our football going backwards recently.

    We have all seen how our attacks are frequently one man running into the channels, with 1 man in the box.

    Sitting deep and giving the striker scraps is how Cisse lost form.

  • 48 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    Ruddy…I wouldn’t either of those three players technical in the sense of what Rotonda is referring to.

    …it is a different kind of technical – maybe flair player or creatively gifted player? :)

  • 49 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM


  • 50 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Our Toon,
    The problem is with Obertan is that his stock has fallen so sharply that there isn’t another club that will offer him any where near what we are paying him, he will see out his contract here and retire to some mid table ligue one team a very rich young man.

  • 51 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:41 PM

    some interesting stats for our club

  • 52 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:47 PM


    maybe adebeyor plays as he has scored or assisted in every game he has featured this season and is their best forward? Also holtby has done very little in his year at spurs….how can you complain about adebeyor staring when he has bene key in everygame under sherwood?


    Nolan was good last year though, got a good few goals. He links with a target man very well, west ham haven’t had one with carroll out and therefore he isn’t scoring and doing a lot.

    still a very effective and good player just not had the support he needs this year.

  • 53 Ciaran // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:49 PM


    So we’re referring to specific type of technical? I would have thought he was referring to the common use of the word in a footballing sense.


    How do we not know that Pardew hasn’t tried to take measures to address Marveaux’s lack of work rate? You may have a point that Pardew prefers a certain type of player and doesn’t get the best of ‘flair’ players. but Marv would need to meet him halfway to ever have a chance of being in the side.

    Pardew will always favour hard workers than talented lazy players – and I must say I agree with that approach. It would be nice if we had a team that could accommodate a talented passenger like HBA or Marv, but we don’t have strong enough a side to do that.

  • 54 Ancientcoptic // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    Transfer Sage “how can you complain about adebeyor staring when he has bene key in everygame under sherwood?”

    How did Adebayor get on in his last game for Spurs?

    How is he getting on today?

    And do you really believe Adebayor is a better striker than Soldado?

  • 55 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:56 PM


    we came 5th without nolan. cabaye will do for me.
    Nolan didn’t want to sign the incentive based deal for coming in the top 7, bit ironic really.

  • 56 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2014 at 3:59 PM


    tevez and mascherano were workaholics, but genius pardew preferred harewood and mullins.

    Pardew has just done so many stupid and dumb things now i’ve lost count.

  • 57 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    got to love how everton play. movement is awesome

  • 58 alkinou // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:05 PM

    “Standard: les Liégeois intéressés par Bakambu (Sochaux) mais Newcastle aussi…”

    Belgian media suggests we would be interested by Bakambu from Sochaux. No idea if this is true at all but that’s what the transfer windows are for : unfounded rumours

  • 59 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM

    TS..,just trying to shed a light on what I think Rotonda means :)

    …but I could be wrong of course!

  • 60 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM


    he has 3/4 goals and 2 assists in his last 5/6 games….pretty good..ding much better than any other striker there. He is a million miles ahead of soldado, just has a habbit of only playing well when he wants to which isn’t usually often enough. Why you looking at only 2 games when he was fantastic in the 4 before that?

    how has soldado done today/the last game?


    not saying we had to keep nolan, just that he isn’t a total donkey.

  • 61 Ciaran // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:08 PM


    Given how poor Marv has been when he has played, yes he created 6 goals last season, well done, but he has offered nothing in terms of being a team player.

    That argument has more weight with regards HBA, as he is a very, very talented player, but I don’t think it holds much water regarding Marveaux because in my eyes he is distinctly average.

  • 62 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:08 PM


    i would say erikson is the one they need to get more out of, he is miles ahead of holtby/dembele/sigurdson it quality and potential

  • 63 NUFCKingALLdWAY // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:08 PM

    Seim de jeng and Luuk de jong

    Well chuffed if we get this

  • 64 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:09 PM


    the only thing i think i can say about marv is that he must be on before obertan….neither work hard/run at all but at least marv has some quality

  • 65 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    …but just because someone is hard working doesn’t mean others are lazy!

    …less blessed players tends to compensate for what they are lacking in certain departments by working hard! That is the way it always has been.

    I want different kind of players and I want them to do what I expect of them in order to get the best out of them…hard work does nothing for me on its own merits.

    It is a case of clash of cultures my friend :)

  • 66 Ciaran // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    The real point is that neither should be anywhere near our squad in my opinion.

    In a choice between the two I would have Marv over Obertan, and Pardew’s decision to pick Obertan over Marv is either evidence of Pardew persisting with a dud of a player whom he personally signed or that Marv simply doesn’t offer enough in training.

  • 67 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:16 PM


    it is true to an extent….you could have me around all over for 90 mins and still do less than ben arfa would playing with 10% effort

    but i still think it’s fair to expect the talented players to run hard for 90 mins as well….i’m not saying this is only tracking back but running in the attacking sense in behind, making more options, etc

    too often our guys stand still and dont create an angle for the pass, this is pretty much all of them except, anita…cabaye and hba usually move for the ball well just not as often as anita…..the rest don’t do it enough.

  • 68 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:17 PM


    then i think it must be the first of those options as pardew said himself he has no issues with how he trains

    but like you say, i dont think we are missing out on a lot other than a decent impact sub when chasing a game

  • 69 Speed11 // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:19 PM

    Anyone seen or even heard of this guy from auxerre we are aperently scouting Paul-Georges Ntep?

  • 70 Ancientcoptic // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:23 PM

    Transfer Sage, answering a question with a question is not an answer.

    Seeing as you did not answer my questions, I will not answer yours.

  • 71 Ciaran // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:26 PM


    I’m not saying that less hard working players are lazy – however Marveaux and Hatem Ben Arfa are lazy.

    I agree that hard work on its own is worthless, as hard work should be expected. It is the reason I do not want Jonas anywhere near the team.

    However, just like hard work on its own is worthless, so too is talent on its own.

  • 72 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    Most spurs fans were screaming for AVB to play Adebayor, love him or hate him he does what he needs to do
    It’s also not a case of Adebayor or Soldado, spurs traditionally play with 2 CF’s
    Adebayor with another assist today aswell

  • 73 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:40 PM


    Yes, Nolan did pretty well last year. But do you think we should have given him a lucrative 5 year contract?

  • 74 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    The scum are absolutely routing Fulham

  • 75 Toon1978 // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:50 PM


    TBF Fulham are absolutely terrible. Berbatov is finished and Parker and Sidwell are also past their best. Good little run for SAFC atm. Hope it doesnt last. Always the same, when NUFC are winning, SAFC are losing and the same the other way around.

  • 76 jasper // Jan 11, 2014 at 4:56 PM

    I too reckon that S & D is telling porkies about being a new poster and the first name that popped into my mind was also Beattie.
    Bit of wit and fun is a pleasant change from the aggression of those that would seem to want to have the blog to themselves…..

  • 77 USAGEORDIE // Jan 11, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    I wonder if we are showing any interest in Ravel Morrison. We almost got him a few years ago and now he seems to be wanting a move away from west ham. We could probably get him for £4m-£5m.

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