Pardew’s Encouragement For French Winger Standard Practice


Alan Pardew was asked in his press conference yesterday about Sylvain Marveaux, who has hardly had a look-in a Newcastle this season, after playing well for a lot of  last season, and Sylvan is certainly a very skillful footballer, there’s no doubt about that.

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Sylvain Marveaux in action

A number of Newcastle fans have been perplexed that Marveaux hardly makes the bench these days, and Alan had this to say about his former French U21 International winger in the local press:

“He’s in the squad, but he’s not getting on the bench at the minute.” “I’m sure between now and the end of February he’ll be used. He’s training well.”

“I have absolutely no problems with him.” “There’s room for Marveaux to come through into the team.”

Any player at Newcastle who trains hard and is in good form,  has a chance to make the Newcastle first team, and that’s got to be the way it is.

A good example of that is Mike Williamson, who last summer wasn’t thought to have much future at Newcastle,  and he was behind Coloccini, Steven Taylor and Yanga-Mbiwa in the pecking order of center-backs in August.

But Mike came on against Everton when we 3-0 down at half time, and e was solid, and Mike’s showed his best form ever at Newcastle since that game – so he’s a great role model for those like Sylvain trying to get back into the team, and even back into the match-day squad.

And Alan Pardew has pointed Mike out as a good example:

“Mike Williamson is an example of someone who wasn’t anywhere near the first team.” “He found an opportunity, and took it.” “He will play – 100%.”

Of course these are good problems to have as a manager, and Alan also said that Sammy Ameobi has been looking great in training, but he  hasn’t  had any chance to give him  many games in the first team.

But once the team starts losing – like we’ve done in the last three games – other players must be given a chance.

Let us know how you think the game will turn out tomorrow.

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77 comments so far

  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #1

    Anyone noticed the crap that Kevin Nolan is getting from West Ham fans recently?

    Makes it a poor decision to give him a 5 year contract on high wages just 2 years ago doesn’t it? I think Pardew said at the time that he didn’t see Nolan as being a first team player for Newcastle in 2016.

    Nolan wanted to go because West Ham were going to throw money at him past his sell by date, he left to maximise his income, just as Defoe has done by going to the US.

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #2

    Must be a commitment thing. He’s obviously not written off or Pards wouldnt be talking about using him.

    S&TD – I dont know how to answer your question about Beattie’s er..feistiness etc without offending you er him er…

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #3

    Has anyone else seen NUFC.COM’s list of ‘coincidental’ New Year holidays Kev has had since leaving us? WHU should be livid with that record. I knew a lad who used to go on weekend binges to Blackpool and hardly ever made monday mornings into work. Guess how long his employer took to eject him from the premises…….I mean…Blackpool…

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  • bills-son

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #4

    Nolan is like Cisse, if he’s not scoring he doesn’t contribute much to the team.

    Having said that he was still a very good player for us and one of the best captains we’ve had in a while.

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  • toonbrother

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #5

    I don’t get it earlier this week you said:
    “It’s obvious that Sylvain Marveaux and Gabriel Obertan do not have any future at Newcastle”
    Why don’t you acknowledge you were dead wrong ?
    Pardews comments are definitely egg in your face. Same way you prematutrely pronounced Williamson’s career at Nufc to be over not too long ago.

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #6

    toonbrother – I think that was a reasonable assumption given Obertan being dropped from the bench and Marveaux not even being mentioned up to now. Hardly egg in anyones face, unlike the omelette you keep slapping yourself with regarding your assertio that Colo is a poor defender. Thats a whole load of egg right there 🙂

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #7

    Bills,
    So if Nolan only scores 12 a season including a brace and hatrick, he didn’t contribute anything to the team about 70% of the time ???

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #8

    TDsarf,
    He shouldn’t have been given a five year contract but the club could have done more to keep him, but the stasi wanted him out.

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  • kilcline

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #9

    Who we should sign:

    Richards – Not a city starter, potential England CB/RB
    Ince – Will add goals from midfield and £4m is a snip
    De Jong – Loan, worth a punt, his game will suit the prem

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  • bills-son

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #10

    Jail,

    I said he was a very good player for us.

    But if he isn’t scoring he’s not the most mobile or creative of midfield players. I didn’t think my point was so diffcult to understand.

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #11

    OK so I might just be catching up with the buzz frm the twitfactory, but whats this Paul Georges Ntep like that we are suppoeed to be stalking?

    Also whats this about Remy being ordered by a court in France to have a paternity test? Its all going on down there with Loic, innit?

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  • Ben3arfa

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #12

    our management team bores me to death

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #13

    ‘Leeds ‘aving ‘terrible’time at’ ‘Sheffield like, tha knows. Down t’ ten men, an’ 4 goals past ‘keeper Paddy McGinty.

    Thats one thing I dont miss about ‘championship – I can hear a crowd but theres nobody in the seats.

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  • jimiley

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #14

    We need to keep the faith in Big Joe and Pardew to get 2 or 3 new signings over the line in January. There is no reason other than greed why Ashers could not release 15 million to sign a few decent players in January and we could then kick on for a Champions League spot.

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #15

    Makes me laugh that Jimmy Carr joke about the yorkshire accent – they say things like ‘tin tin tin’. It means ‘It Isn’t in the tin.’

    🙂

    Simple things, I know. But good clean family fun.

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #16

    jimiley – I think this transfer window will tell us a lot, more so than any in the last few years. By the time we get to summer there will be little doubt about ambition, intent, call it what you will. If Mike decides the purse strings stay tight and we slip down to the bottom half well……

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  • jimiley

    Jan 11, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #17

    Tsunki,
    We should be buying but I have a feeling we might get a loan and a 17 year old. The theatre of hope is turning into one of disappointment and despair. If the ambition for the club is merely Premiership survival, what is the point?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #18

    JfA

    I don’t think it’s unlikely that they were uncomfortable with player power in the dressing room, look at what Fergie did when players got too big for their boots!

    But from what I understand, we offered him a new contract but he wanted us to match what West Ham offered so we got rid.

    He’s used to being the main man and leader in the dressing room and doesn’t like it when he doesn’t get his way.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #19

    Bills,
    I can see the way one could say about Cisse offering nothing if he doesn’t score, but Nolan didn’t score most games yet was still a good player while offering nothing if he didn’t score, on the contrary I think your point is very hard to understand !

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #20

    Sorry like Pardew, but jf Marveaux is training well yet Obertan makes the bench ahead of him then there is no excuse.

    As for all the people saying he was unfit or doesn’t train well can eat their words. He is the perfect player to sub for Cabaye when he gets tired IMO .

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #21

    TDsarf,
    Fancy having the nerve to have a voice in Big Mikes regime.

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  • lesh

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #22

    Looks as though another if our reported targets could be on the move. Hull’ve bid for Shane Long.

    The cynic in me feels that by waiting until the end of the window before bidding (if at all), we’ll miss them.

    Then and well well, could we hear about problems with agents, fees being too high, player demands too great, target not being available etc etc bring churned out as reasons for another window without strengthening.

    Why do we have to endure these rituals year after year? Because they’re trying to sell season/ half season tickets – cynical? Moir?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #23

    Players like Nolan and Barton were popular with our fans because they come across as just simple blokes that the typical working class fan would go to the pub with. But that doesn’t always make them suitable for a modern football club. Barton is a passionate loudmouth thug who doesn’t understand the intricacies of a hierarchical business and Nolan is an old fashioned footballer who likes to be the main man.

    They both did well for us on the pitch but I wouldn’t take either of them now, even at their peak.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #24

    JfA

    Well…yes!

    The players are the most important people when it comes to match day, but what right does a 28 year old poorly educated dumb footballer have to question his billionaire entrepreneur boss?

    When Stam, Beckham and Keane questioned things at Man Utd, they were shipped out. If it’s good enough for Man Utd…

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  • MadisonToon

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #25

    @lesh

    We’re never going to get involved in a bidding war so by waiting until the last week of the window we know players who aren’t seriously being looked into by other clubs and then they are likely to be subject to only our bid.

    Not that I defend the policy, just that it is how I’ve tried to make sense of our transfer dealings in the past few seasons. Debuchy was the only player that we knew we needed/wanted and got the work done ahead of time (and one of the few players who we actually paid full price for…maybe because it was at the beginning of a window).

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #26

    TDsarf,
    So the all round modern footballer has an intricate knowledge of the complex nature of hierarchical business methods and is more likely to be spotted with the FT sipping Earl Grey than with a pint reading the Sun or Mirror.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #27

    lesh,
    I listened to Pardews presser on Total sport and got the impression that we’d only buy someone if we sell somebody, he didn’t really give anything away

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #28

    Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2014 at 10:52 AM @13 previous thread you posted.

    Are mister tuff and Shearer and the duchess one and the same? not complaining, twice the fun!!!

    Rotonda – what – how can you make such an error – to suggest I am that bounder Shearer and the Duchess is
    laughable. Clearly I am the only true gentleman on the blog – not the imposter Shearer. I suspect he is a ruffian
    who is trying to raise himself to my level. Please no more of this nonsense – the imposter needs a damn good thrashing.

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  • Ancientcoptic

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #29

    I have to laugh at Spurs playing Adebayor over Holtby, is this what they really sacked AVB for.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Palace hold them to a draw.

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  • Ciaran

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #30

    Fergie admitted that letting Stam go was the biggest regret of his career – doesn’t always work.

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  • elpaso_geordie

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #31

    ‘ Alan also said that Sammy Ameobi has been looking great in training, but he hasn’t had any chance to give him many games in the first team.’

    How about using him against Cardiff rather than bring on Obertan who has absolutely no future at the toon… Surely Sammi should be getting some game time ahead of players that are without doubt not good enough and we are desparate to get rid of.
    Sammi must be thinking WTF is going on here

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  • kevymartins

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #32

    @Ancientcoptic better not I need spurs and Arsenal for a cool
    £80 …

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #33

    let’s be honest Marveaux isn’t Percy’s type of player. Far too technical and skilful to be coached by someone of Pardew’s calibre

    Re Nolan, slow, hardly creative and not even able to get on to the hopeful flick ons from a big lump up front any more.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #34

    and for anyone wondering what a true gentleman looks like…

    http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/3071868/A+true+gentleman/

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  • Ciaran

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #35

    Rotonda

    What about Cabaye? Debuchy? Remy? These are technically gifted players who seem to be performing quite well under Pardew’s stewardship.

    Nothing to do with the fact that Marv is a lazy git?

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 11, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #36

    mister Tuff

    Humble apologies. It’s just that some of his language had a similar ring to your good self.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #37

    wolfshead -I suspected some sort of cheeky comment from yourself. You should know what your station is in life and not go beyond. You rather rude suggestion in your link is disgraceful. I have no need in participating the activity suggested -I’m certainly not a tadger tugger and never will be.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 11, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #38

    Rotonda – apology accepted. That fellow Shearer and the Duchess is clearly a rascal.

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 11, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #39

    Ciaran

    Players like HBA and Marv are doomed as Percy has no clue how best to utilise them, it’s a shame but common theme throughout Percy’s career, I’m not convinced by Remy…..we often blast other players for lack of consistency well Remy has 1 goal in 9 games and that was against 9 man stoke

    McGeady has joined Everton undisclosed fee!! Don’t worry though we will wait till the last week whilst we try to penny pinch as much as possible

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 11, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #40

    Ciaran,

    Do you not think that being the top assister of last season ahead of Cabaye and others despite playing a fraction of the time was not worth some coaching time, investment and input, rather than oh no you’re a lazy git not worth persisting with. Surely a competent coach can address that more positively ?

    The goal he made for Ba at Arsenal and others for Cisse was sensational ability that should be tapped in to, not thrown on the scrapheap of English football as another victim of possessing flair, instead of running as fast as you can, kicking as far as you can and jumping as high as you can.!

    Cisse, Benny and Marv don’t become bad overnight but need a proper technical coach

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