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£3M Newcastle Star Close To Norwich City Move

3:04 pm, Monday, January 13th, 2014 by Ed Harrison · 137 Comments

Norwich City manager Chris Hughton has admitted that he has an interest in taking Jonas Gutierrez to the East Anglia club, which would mean the Argentine winger linking up again with his former manager at Newcastle United.

Jonas Gutierrez CaRDIFF

Jonas Gutierrez – on his way out of Newcastle

The 30 year-old had used his Twitter account over the weekend to tell Newcastle fans he was on his way out of Tyneside, after five and a half years at the club, so we have to think a deal has either been made, or it is very close to being completed.

This is what the former Newcastle manager Chris Hughton has said today:

“There is an interest in Jonas Gutierrez but there’s nothing to confirm at this moment.”

Gutierrez was one of the star players who stayed with the club in 2009 when Newcastle were relegated, even though it could have meant him losing his place in the Argentine squad for the World Cup in South Africa in the summer of 2010.

And as it turned out Jonas was one of the key men in our promotion drive, and he made the World Cup in South Africa playing at left-back for Argentina.

Under the strong guidance of Chris Hughton, Newcastle  amassed a mammoth 102 points, a goal different of +55, and 30 wins  to gain promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt, and we were a massive  33 points above 3rd placed Nottingham Forest, to gain automatic promotion.

Jonas has become surplus to requirements at St. James’ Park because of the acquisition of Frenchmen Moussa Sissoko and Yoan Gouffran a year ago, and they are the two wide men in the first team at the moment, and they are even keeping Hatem Ben Arfa on the bench.

Jonas joined us in 2008 from Real Mallorca, and has played a total of 194 times for the Newcastle first team and scored 11 goals, and he’s been a  good servant to the club, and certainly a  top class professional,  and he has lots of experience.

We have to think a deal is very close, but whether Newcastle will get £3M for the 21 times capped Argentine International is not known – although that would be a decent fee for Jonas.

And Jonas was full of praise for the Newcastle fans in his parting comments on his Twitter account – Jonas is  obviously a class act.

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137 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    3M is an incredible fee for him and i still do not believe that is what we will receive.

  • 2 Graeme // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Good luck to Jonas,
    Can we not get that other “Has Been” out the door and find a good home for Bambi

    While we are at it, PLEASE any takers for Joke? Free to a good home!!!

  • 3 shearer and the duchess // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    My goodness, £3m for Jonas!

    The worlds gone bonkers. Snap their bloody hands orf I say.

  • 4 Ben3arfa // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Loan until end of season, with a view of a permanent move

  • 5 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    Think people are forgetting that we paid £3m for Obertan, would rather have Jonas at £3m which is a bargain compared to Obertan

  • 6 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    Obertan was deemed to have potential so don’t get the point???

  • 7 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Nufc 83

    Cisse is in his prime but is currently going through his worst spell in football!! Also he plays at top level football and has done throughout his career, he’s had no issues scoring for Senegal during his baron spell for us

    Well maybe the lad shouldn’t be playing top level football considering he cant even control a ball!!

  • 8 Ancientcoptic // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    1.5 million, max. We should be happy to get that too, he will be on good wages.

  • 9 shearer and the duchess // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    That’s another £3m in our bank account. Spiffo

  • 10 toon1707 // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Good luck Jonas until age caught up was never amazing but decent player and did a good job especially in tracking back was one of my favorate players in his first couple of seasons

  • 11 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    First season and in our relegation year he was outstanding he seemed to lose his pace so quickly as i remember his first game against united he was top class and used to turn fb’s inside out.

    Always had poor delivery though lol

  • 12 stretchintoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    Big shout out for Mapou for crippling that little nasty shite nasri…oh karma’s a beautiful thing.

  • 13 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    oh my…..

    http://thepremierleagueowl.com/failure-to-send-off-newcastles-mapou-yanga-mbiwa-is-the-201314-seasons-worst-decision-yet/

  • 14 Neil // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    We shouldn’t sell him to Norwich before we play them at the end of the month

  • 15 geordiemark // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    am amazed if true were getting 3m but then again we wont get it it goes straight into the mike lets milk the toon for all shes worth ashleys back pocket

  • 16 walton1984 // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    Just get him sold & sign a winger that can cross & Shoot……He is the only winger i know that was praised for his work rate,

  • 17 geordiemark // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    cjtoon

    it was a nasty tackle but then again there was a lot of tackles like that yesturday and half them come from man city, they have complained that we ruffed them up hmm think they can hand it out as much as they get it red card no yellow yes

  • 18 Rainrix // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    3mil, that’ll incidentally probably be the loan fee for luuk de jong.

  • 19 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Cjtoon

    Bloody hell! That guy has his man city shirt on, no mistake!

  • 20 geordiemark // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:32 PM

    I think if we can finish in the top 10 think that would suit mike barrow boy ashley and kinnearbasher happy hes made his money through none payment of advertising at st james park also hes got his little mates wonga on board as well, if the church of england shareholders in wonga am damn sure mike ashley is as well

  • 21 geordiemark // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    I wonder if this cabaye and santon talk of a 30m bid by arsenal has any truth in it ive seen it banging about via newspapers and websites all day

  • 22 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    The decision to disallow the goal has had repercussions on arsenal, chelsea and liverpool. I think that makes THAT the poorest decision so far.

  • 23 cyprus // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:39 PM

    Our top dribbler before HBA came, gained us lots of fouls per game which we promptly wasted. A favourite player of mine, should do well for Norwich, should he go.

    On last game. Tiote – Anita are proving a good combination. Cabs, if he’s staying, needs to contain his rash tackles and look more for the through ball rather than the wild shot. Remy a bit out of form. Who’s going to score for us now? Oh, yes, Sholes :)

  • 24 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    Its a pretty ridiculous article tbh. I mean it was a fairly typical tacti foul you see them in every game. No malicious intent whatsoever. It really didnt look that bad, i mean it was embarrassing for MYM but not nasty.

    This quote is my favourite:

    “So he booted him as hard as he could, from behind, straight to the knee ligaments. It wouldn’t have looked out of place in the UFC, were it not from behind and by someone wearing boots” LOL

  • 25 martoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    I can’t believe we’ll get £3m for Jonas – I would have thought more likely £1-2m. Maybe JFK’s remit is becoming clear – sell off peripheral players and don’t buy anybody just loans!

  • 26 mag // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    3 million for Jonas, Hughton must be after the sack again! Ashley always seems to get his cash back one way or another what’s the odds of a few more bench warmers moving as well?

  • 27 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    Actually this is also hillarious and makes no sense!

    “But if Yanga-Mbiwa had gained no tactical advantage from it, the referee would have been more likely to give a red card. It would have been violent conduct, an unprovoked attack with nothing but malice behind it. Mike Jones’s decision shows that, in the Premiership, brutally assaulting someone’s leg is more acceptable if you manage to do it as part of another blatant cheat. That’s why for me it’s the worst decision of the season.”

    Why would the ref have been more likely to give a red? brutally assaulting? do they not have any filter on the sh*te people write!

  • 28 bills-son // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    £3M? No way. £1.5M tops I’d have guessed.

    I’ve read he is going on loan until the end of the season with a buy option.

  • 29 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    Cj toon

    Agreed. Inflamitory at best. Had the two incidents been reversed, you can bet the goal would have been the taking point of that article, not the tackle.

    Anyway… good luck Jonas. A solid performer and an honest player. A good servant to the club who stuck with us after relegation and put his part in it right.

  • 30 sparky55 // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:47 PM

    @12…I’m with you…Nasri was gloating at how easy we are to beat and how he always looks forward to playing us because he has so much space…

    …so yeah…great tackle…shame he’s only out for 8 weeks really

  • 31 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    Am i the only one who thinks 3 mil is reasonable for jonas. He is still a recent argentine international and a versatile player. Like i said earlier, nothing spectacular but will be a very useful player for Norwich.

  • 32 MadisonToon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:51 PM

    Where is this 3m coming from? I don’t see it above in anything that Ed put out. Is it the price we paid for him in 2008?

    I think if we get him off our books it’s worth it. Granted, we’d never let anyone leave on a free with our money-focused owner around, but what we will free up in wages for others and another spot for a foreign player is certainly a positive move.

    IMO he also shouldn’t be near the first team as Sammi should be ahead of him, meaning we wouldn’t really be losing a useful player (although his experience will be missed in practice and the dressing room). Nothing bad to say about him and his service to the club, just that he’s no longer got what it takes to make our starting XI.

  • 33 mag // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    Nasri could gloat playing against Anita, especially the way Silva turned him for the first goal no wonder he was subbed. And another one that should have been subbed Santon shocking the way he allowed Negredo in for the second goal.

  • 34 bills-son // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    MYM made absolutely no attempt to play the ball and took a swing at knee height.

    I’m sure he didn’t mean to hurt Nasri but if you make a tackle like that you have to take responsibility for the consequences. MYM probably got off with a red because Nasri has a reputation for rolling around as if he’s been shot.

    I’m sure De Jong didn’t mean to break HBA’s leg but wrapping both legs around a player running away from you is a bad injury waiting to happen.

    You can’t knock De Jong and not knock MYM. Both were very bad tackles.

  • 35 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    Yeah no doubt, Well we do love a good drama at Newcastle don’t we. Or rather the press love to project a pantomime drama of us as often as possible. Sadly all to often we make it quite easy for them.

    Yes on Jonas, I have nothing but respect for the guy. Has had some brilliant games for us in his time at the club. A fresh start will no doubt go him the world of good, still has a couple of seasons left in him at this level. When you expect that 100% effort and commitment should be the given in PL football its not always the case, i think Jonas is great example of a model professional. Not the greatest player you’ll ever see but every team needs a Jonas or a Gouff. A solid workhorse…Good luck to him

  • 36 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:58 PM

    A lot of computer game playing wanabee football managers on here…I don’t care if we get £3M for him or £1.5M. He has been a good servant but it’s clear he’s not in Pardew’s plans so I wish him well/

  • 37 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:59 PM

    mag:

    be quiet. Anita was arguably our best player with tiote yesterday. And santon was at right back for the second goal it was Haidara playing him onside.

  • 38 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    TDS:

    Whats wrong with computer game playing wannabee football managers? :-p

  • 39 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    Bills

    Agree. Both were bad tackles. But the point here is that mym has become spawn of satan over this, wheras de jong got off with ” oh it was very clumsy, but he is a hard tackling player so it happens” and things like that.

  • 40 mag // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:03 PM

    @37 you’ve got Anita mistaken for Sissoko, Anitas the dwarf of the two!

  • 41 p // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:05 PM

    I think this is good news. Mash does not look at short term fees so much. He is removing a senior player so, is likely to add another.

    I think the double swoop for Santon and Cabaye is bollox. Cabaye may indeed leave if (big if) Arsenal are interested in him still. In which case sounds like, Cabella will come in as a cheaper alternative.

    What does anyone think about Ben Arfa and the new contract talks? Though I love him, he has just not delivered when we needed him in the last few weeks.

  • 42 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:05 PM

    cjtoon

    Nothing I suppose! :-) It’s just that they often don’t know their arses from their elbows when it comes to predicting players to sign and valuations!

    It’s funny seeing all these SELL lists with valuations and then a buy list of players I’ve often never heard of. I reckon the media pluck names from Championship Manager too!

  • 43 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:10 PM

    mag:

    Troll much?

    p:

    I doubt the double swoop rumour is true but i wouldnt be to bothered if either left both have the potential to be better but could quite easily go the other way too imo.

    On HBA he is splitting opinion pretty well at the moment but i still think he has a lot to offer if Pardew can every work out a way of getting him in the team so he doesnt have to defend. I feel slightly different i think he has delivered recently. He was the only player that played well against stoke before the two reds and even then he hit the woodwork a couple of times. He has had decent cameos since and hit the woodwork again. I just feel he needs a full game so he doesnt feel he has to prove everything in 10-15 mins at the end of games.

  • 44 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:11 PM

    Tds

    Thing is, after playing a few seasons on FM games, it begins generating new players with names cobbled together from existing ones. Consequently, if a journo is 5 seasons in on his game, Newcastle in real life may find themselves linked to harrold ribbery, albert ronaldo and peter messi.

  • 45 mag // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    @43 your the geeky troll go play fifa 14 with yourself!

  • 46 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    All of which play for colchester utd.

  • 47 shearer and the duchess // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    I bet Mr Jonas is on a bloody good salary as well.
    That’s more savings and more lolly in the bank. We are going to be like Sunderland in the 50′s. Nicknamed the Bank of England or similar, the Bank of Ashley.

  • 48 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    Now now. Steady. We’ve all had a drink….

  • 49 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    TDS:

    I know what you mean, although it is a pretty good database for world talent. I play quite a bit of football manager like. It has accurately predicted the rise and fall of many a player :-p I think there are tens of thousands of ‘scouts’ that help build the database they are all moderated obviously but i think almost anyone can get involved.

    Totally agree on the list thing though i find that hillarious! this sort of thing:

    Buy

    Dzeko 12 mil
    Nani 12 mil
    De jong 5 mil
    Cabella 13 mil
    Other de jong 5 mil
    Ba loan
    Ronaldinho Gaucho – on a free deffo would come like!

    Sell

    Jonas – lots
    obertan – good potential 3 mil
    Tayls – 3 mil (Willo last season)
    Marv – couple mil
    Shola – hefty fee

    That should just about balance! if my maths are correct! :-p

  • 50 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:18 PM

    Santon was the best player on the pitch yesterday. He was unlucky to get fouled for the freekick just outside the area. Was in a promising position.

  • 51 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:20 PM

    Markaccus:

    Yeah everyone from brazil is called schumacher after like two seasons lol! Good one FM.

    Btw anyone know if mag is a troll before i start arguing with him?

  • 52 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM

    It will be interesting to see jonas at Norwich. He looked better under houghton when allowed to attack more. I wonder if he still has it.

    Been a good servant so I wish him well.

  • 53 mag // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:24 PM

    @51save your mutterings for someone who gives a monkeys I’ve read your geeky opinions and your strictly light weight!

  • 54 Rainrix // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:24 PM

    cj…. Yup He’s a troll go crazy ;)

  • 55 Wayayman // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:24 PM

    Can’t believe anyone who watched Anita play yesterday against one of the the best midfields in Europe can think that he isn’t a top player. Anita was fantastic I thought, his anticipation is superb which means he doesn’t need to make as many tackles as ‘ball-followers’ do. That said, when he does make a tackle, he never bottles it or lacks any fight, did you see thaty one yesterday against giant Toure when he shoulder challenged him?!?
    He reads the game brilliantly, and can see a pass too. Once Cabaye goes (sadly it’s a matter of when not if) we’ll see the little fella come into his own.
    Bear in mind, Anita is not playing every week, it’s bloody hard coming in and out of any team and not getting a run of games, let alone in the pace of the Prem.

  • 56 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    Markaccus

    I’m pretty sure there was an article a couple of years ago with a club (I think it was ours?) linked to a player who didn’t really exist…actually…wasn’t it a few years ago and it was some player in a football TV show? :-)

    We all know that some sites generate more garbage than others, especially on a Sunday. I don’t even bother to read any transfer gossip on a Sunday…

  • 57 Ben3arfa // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:26 PM

    Kinnear’s January Shopping list:

    De Jong – LOAN
    Purse for the old Slag – £1000
    A new dining table for when Mike comes over – £500
    Mobile credit to call ‘Arry Redknapp at the end of the season – £20

  • 58 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:28 PM

    TDS

    for me transfer gossip is just that…. any slight inclination a club could be interested in a player and the article never read

    “newcastle manager watches montpellier player”

    its always “alan pardew to splash £10mil on montepllier star”

    it’s worth reading but never worth getting hopes up.

  • 59 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    TS:

    I think he will still have something in the tank, no doubt he will want a shot at trying to get into the Argentina squad for the summer too?!

    Mag:

    Yeah sweet, well done for being such a brilliant troll definitely put me off my game! :-( Wish i had as much spare time on my hands to sit typing on a blog about something i have no interest in. Your secretly just looking for some friends arent you? You might have to be slightly more curteous in order for that to happen ? :-p

  • 60 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    cjtoon

    That’s it! And of course the calculations completely fail to take into account agent’s fees, signing on fees, wage etc. not to mention whether the clubs and players want to do a deal!

    There must be dozens of players we “failed” to sign this summer who haven’t really done much. In fact, did we miss out on any that we should really have got?

    I’m more concerned with incoming transfers anyway. As long as it’s not Alex Shearer…

  • 61 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    reading kinnears comments and with the clubs official aim that 10th is our minimum target, not committing to go higher this season (with a base target despite a good start) then i can see what he means, the squad is easily good enough to achieve the target this year.

    we be nice to see the club be a bit proactive though and adapt the target due to strong start.

  • 62 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:32 PM

    Wayayman:

    Totally agree mate, Anita really is top class. Has a real philosophy behing his play and really does look the bee’s iv been saying it to all my mates since the end of last season but theyre only just coming over now! :-p he could be a really big player for us in the future.

  • 63 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:33 PM

    TS

    Well, I use NewsNow from time to time but I’ve blocked quite a few of the sites:
    Bleacher Report
    FootballFanCast
    Footymad
    NUFC Fans
    talkSPORT
    The Mag
    thisisfutbol

    I got fed up with reading ridiculously biased or completely made up garbage.

  • 64 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:33 PM

    CJ

    i just want to see what he is like in the final third for them, will they play him on the wing? i imagine so.

    will show if he was mismanaged here or not….put some theories to bed one way or another.

  • 65 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:34 PM

    TDS

    would agree with all them but the mag, i think they do some good stuff. not all but some nice articles which raise god questions

  • 66 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    also the story linking santon to arsenal might have legs

    they have sagna out of contract in the summer and seem to be no talks of renewing his, santon is a very arsenal player in that he is technically very good. will be interesting to see how it pans out

  • 67 Nudd - Back by popular demand // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    ‘Newcastle Star’…… Yeah

  • 68 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:39 PM

    TS

    I don’t come on NUFC sites to read articles on religion mate… :-)

    Can’t remember why I blocked The Mag but it was either stupid transfer news or overly biased anti-Ashley propaganda. I think I blocked at least one for that because I was bored of reading that.

  • 69 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:40 PM

    TS: well i would imagine he still has quite an attacking threat to his game. Maybe not a decent delivery but good wing play none the less. I doubt he will be any where near as restricted as he has been here especially last season! although he was outstanding in the fulham game last season! dominated the left flank for the full 90 (and they werent quite as awful last season!)

  • 70 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:41 PM

    TDS

    you know i meant good questions haha

    but i do think the mag is anti ashley but they put it forward in a good way, they always justify the stance referring to club statements, etc

    sky sports just announced norwich will announce a transfer in the next few mins

  • 71 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:47 PM

    Yep, Jonas is gone. Good luck Jonas! Except against us…

  • 72 scottoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:48 PM

    Have to say I will miss Jonas. Was a tireless servant for the club, and while true that he is past his best, his willingness to run at players, and ability to draw fouls will be missed. But 3M…..right then, off you go.

    As for MYM, for me it was a red card. I doubt he intended to hurt Nasri but it was a vicious high desperate boot and deserved red. Not sure if this was Jones way of doing penance for the stupid offside decision, but wouldn’t surprise me if he held back the red in recognition of his balls up in the first half.

  • 73 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    Mag

    Take ya blinkers off mate, Haidara played Negrado onside for the 2nd goal not Santon…..getting sick of the usual scapegoats getting blamed weekly even when they weren’t to blame

  • 74 scottoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    Jonas confirmed now….loan until June so no 3M. Suppose that clears some space for De Jong or whomever.

  • 75 Tsunki // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    We will lose a good squad player in Jonas, the only other player to fulfil his role is Gouffran atm. Or so much a victim of time but Pardew team style. Had incredible stats for covering miles of grass and as mentioned was an expert at winning free kicks. I think other decent players may suffer his fate as Pardew continues to apply his work ethic / tracking back to cover weaker players style.

  • 76 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:53 PM

    Cant wait to see how McGeady does under martinez at everton.

  • 77 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:54 PM

    tsunki

    i’m not worried about losing jonas, he does little these days in this team but i find it so odd he played a lot last year and this year can’t even get on the bench ahead of obertan or sammy.

    gone from manager favourite to outcast in a few months

  • 78 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:54 PM

    Tds

    That football fancast was full of gutter press morons who seemed to be there for the sole purpose of pulling clubs to bits. I remember the name of one guy (although not what the article was about) who got absolutely crusified off toon fans for some sh1t he wrote about nufc. Rob facey was the name. Was quite a few years ago now.

  • 79 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:56 PM

    Luckily jonas wont be playing v us. At least we better have remembered to put the clause in the loan contract this time.

  • 80 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:56 PM

    Our preparation for the transfer windows is a year-round activity and at Newcastle United we plan our transfer activity based on a full calendar year as opposed to approaching each window in isolation.

    Now that we have strength and depth in most areas, as well as players within our ideal age range in most positions, our intention for the first team going forward is to sign one or two players per year to improve the squad

    Kinnear quote from a couple days ago

    it worries me we look at 1 or 2 players per calendar year

  • 81 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:57 PM

    People think somehow Pardew as a victim under Ashley and Kinnear. For Me he is the part of the Cancer

  • 82 Tsunki // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    MYM didn’t use his boot actually, it was evidently an attempt to impede Nasri’s progress by swiping his leg to trip him, I don’t think there was any malicious intent, and the result was more unfortunate than planned. Also the resulting injury is not a barometer of the severity or intent of the foul as many would imagine. Harping on about it is merely a smokescreen to counter the goal controversy and the number of tasty challenges Citeh (especially Nasri’s complete with rolling and crying) got away with before the ref started panicking and found his yellow card.

  • 83 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    Now for me that policy of the clubs is better if those two we sign improve the first team, not just slight upgrade on the squad, and even then it’s not enough.

  • 84 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    People say 10th was the minimum target for us. But I have not seen anything done to do better than 10th.

  • 85 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    HD

    did you read the minutes from the latest meeting with fan forum?

    the club said 10th was minimum target but wouldn’t state if there were any higher targets or what they were, just to do as well as possible beyond minimum.

    For me the club should look at our squad and say 8th is minimum with it, it’s where we should be at least.

  • 86 Tsunki // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    Indian – Pardew us without doubt an integral part of the penny pinching and mediocre approach used by Ashley in management in the SD style.

  • 87 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:01 PM

    Markaccus

    I think one or more of them kept having “The 10 best/worst/biggest…” It was always a waste of time clicking on it as it wasn’t at all insightful! I think it was FootballFanCast and BleacherReport.

    They also kept getting their facts wrong because they were churning out this garbage so often.

  • 88 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:01 PM

    TS

    Do you not think Jonas criticising Percy’s training at the end of the season have a bearing on him being outcast, he said we just didn’t work hard enough on game plans etc.

  • 89 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    Had a funny feeling we wouldn’t get any money for Jonas :(

    …think he is on high wages. When does his contract run out?

  • 90 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    TS

    I’ve no interested in reading news that is highly tinged with bias. Which is why I don’t even buy newspapers these days. I get my non-sports news from the BBC website and just Google things I want to know more about.

    It’s one thing reading a site that is biased in favour of Newcastle United, another thing completely to be biased for/against the owner. I don’t read the Sports Direct news either…

  • 91 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    TS

    That is what I am saying, 10th is minimum. but we are not doing anything to do any better.

  • 92 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    Tsunki

    Indian magpie is dead. RIP

  • 93 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    See Mike ‘The S***e’ Jones has been dropped from next weeks Premiership games

  • 94 Tsunki // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    Kinnear’s quote on squad strength justifying no spending takes us back to where we were two summers ago. Another bad idea waiting to bite us in the ass. Last minute buds for 2 first teamers would leave us with a squad like we had back then. Then we could watch the mackems pass us as we go down the table seasoned by yet another derby loss.

  • 95 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    For those who don’t know, this is a great site to get some genuine stats on football: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb_GB1.html

    That particular page is fascinating in that it shows a very close relationship between their squad valuations and their position in the league. Hull are doing much better while Sunderland and Man Utd are doing a lot worse then they should be.

  • 96 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    TDS

    fair play, i read things with an open mind so if it’s overly biased i won’t take it in, but i do think they offer good points even if they bang on about them a lot.

    our toon

    quite possibly, suppose that happens in any profession, those things should be said behind closed doors in the proper channels….but i bet if it was cabaye who went public on it he wouldn’t be shown the door.

  • 97 mindshaft // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    So Jonas has signed on a loan to Norwich until the summer, hopefully they’ve signed an option to pay 3 million and he does well.
    Decent servant for the club and always put in a 100% effort, hope he does well unless he’s playing the toon of course.
    Saves quite a chunk off the wage bill as he was one of the big earners, hopefully we’ll now spend the money saved on a new signings wages

  • 98 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    It also reinforces my view that we’re the 8th best team but have a big gap to 6th. Our revenue, squad value and wage bill are all about 8th. I really want to know how we’re going to close that gap to 6th though!

  • 99 martoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    Markaccus – I don’t think we need a clause, it is a league rule now that loan players cannot play against their parent club.

  • 100 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:11 PM

    TDS

    i always wonder who values the players….it’s easy to do recent transfers as can see the fee but somebody who went for 5mil 7 years ago, how do they decide?

    it is a decent website though

  • 101 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:11 PM

    MUFC have Turkish Airlines and DHL have Kit sponsors we have Sports direct.

    MUFC have Audi as their sponsors we have Sports Direct.

    They all pay money, Sports direct is free.

  • 102 scottoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:11 PM

    Don’t understand this minimum target nonsense. Surely there is a sports psych on staff who could tell them that a minimum target essentially ensures that is all you will achieve. Goals should be lofty….don’t settle for something as good enough FFS!

  • 103 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:13 PM

    TDS

    only one way to do it on our budget I feel….do what spurs have done but do it better.

    buy, sell, buy more, sell, buy even more and work up that way. The plus the club say in “we haven’t sold a big star” is good in a way but getting 20mil in means we could improve with 3/4 god players which overall bring more.

    Also we really need to make sure that long term the academy is producing top top players, or at least like southampton who produce some genuine talent like walcott, bale, chamberlain, shaw, llana, etc

  • 104 Tsunki // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM

    You’ll always be Indian Magpie to me, Himanshu. Wasn’t I the first person to use your name by the way? :)

  • 105 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM

    scottoon

    for me them minimum target should be the line where serious changes take place….if it’s manager sacked, players sold, etc etc

    the club should be pushing even higher. look at everton, good manager, clever signings, loans to fill the gaps if they can’t get their main target in.

  • 106 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    Martoon,

    What if we have a santa clause then? Will Ashley have to put on the red suit next year and put lots of top class players in our stockings :D

  • 107 scottoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:19 PM

    TS – totally agree. Minimally acceptable means a shake up. Everton is a great example. They knew their needs and went out and got Lukaku and Barry on loan. Those two are making a huge difference, as well as the emergence of Coleman and Barkley. Top club in my view, although Kenright has always been quite miserly. But Martinez is the business!

  • 108 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:19 PM

    Tsunki

    Could well have been. I guess that means you read my article/s too. :mrgreen:

  • 109 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:20 PM

    There’s a difference between a vocal minimum target from the business and an internal target from manager to the players.

  • 110 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:20 PM

    Dermot gallacher said it was a goal. He is impartial, too.

  • 111 OhSholaAmeobi // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    Jonas has moved on loan to Norwich. Probably on his way at the end of the season. Pointless but it’s not as if we’re still in other competitions…
    Now we’re left with Gouffran, Sissoko, Ben Arfa, Marveaux & Sammy that can play on the wing. Surely they’re going to bring in a winger!

  • 112 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    OhShola

    We still have alien head, too. (Obertan)

  • 113 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    TS

    The prices aren’t always what the players would go for but I think they’re pretty good valuations generally.

    And yes…we need to do what Spurs have done but better.

    Anyway, keep fighting the good fight!

  • 114 Marty-Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    Aft fee for Jonas would be good,great servant for the club.
    Always helped out at the back,made good runs and usually a poor delivery which seems to be the type of player we buy :-)
    Obertan,Jonas,Marveau,Sammy,Robert,Ben Arfa,Milner,Routledge

    Actually Routledge and Milner improved after they left
    The others on that list give 5 mins of quality in 90

  • 115 OhSholaAmeobi // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    Markaccus

    He’s easily forgettable…
    Apparently he’s on his way out after taking the huff when not being on the bench. Was good to see Marv back on though, hopefully he’ll get a chance.

  • 116 Mister Tuff // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    I do not know what is behind the Jonas deal. I don’t know if he has a realistic chance of playing for Argentina in the summer but it seems to me, possibly, a move that benefits him more than NUFC. Do not mind really as he has been a good worker for the club. He’ll more than likely end up back here.

  • 117 Marty-Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:31 PM

    Gouffran’s delivery has got a lot better,we just need another Shearer type to attack the ball in the area.
    A good strong lad would be good

  • 118 OhSholaAmeobi // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:32 PM

    If the contract clause thing is correct then it’s probably expected he’ll move elsewhere (or back to argentina) in the summer, it’s unlikely the club are going to hand a new contract to a 30 year old winger that’s no longer first choice (3rd choice?).

  • 119 Marty-Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:35 PM

    Shane ferguson can deliver a good ball,just needs to add 10/15 kilo of muscle to his body that’s all ;-)
    Ginola could deliver a great cross as could Gillespie but again it was all to seldom we ever got to see it happen.
    Kolorov was time and time again putting them in dangerous positions.
    Can’t understand that Ben Arfa doesn’t do the same,he has undoubtably the talent and puts in a mighty ball when he looks up to actually find a player

  • 120 Mister Tuff // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:36 PM

    Indian – you were on about sponsors at Man U. The other day I stumbled upon the list of directors there and apart from a whole host of Glazers on the board there was one bloke who is the boss of ESPN Asia. Clearly they must be getting some decent input from him to expand their club in Asia – you would think.
    Despite us having a few names on our board – I really think it is most likely that there is only one view held by “our board” and that is the view of Mr Tubbs.

  • 121 breno95 // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    most upto date transfer report has discussions with luuk de jong ongoing. player has confirmed he will move to NUFC this window.
    Cabella – again discussions ongoing with aim to move in this window.
    finally the club are also in talks for a young CH (possibly CH from Leicester) and new goalkeeper.
    As for purples moving out, none will leave in this window with the exception of Cisse if an agreement can be reached.

  • 122 sparky55 // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:42 PM

    our lovely old DOF (Derranged old F@cker) couldn’t negotiate his way out of a childs maze never mind negotiate a price and terms of a premiership footballer which is why he constantly barks on about our squad being good enough because god help us if he had actually had to do what his job description dictates.

    Ashley probably pays bonus’ to Joe for not being successful in buying anyone and that way the fat controller doesn’t haven’t to fork out for anything but expanding his vast retail empire which is most certainly higher up his list of priorities.

    TW@T!

  • 123 Scottishmag1 // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:42 PM

    Jonas won’t play against us as he is on loan, normally one of the stipulations

  • 124 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    breno…I think you might as well get used to the idea that we might not sign anyone this window!

  • 125 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:47 PM

    Here’s a question on yesterdays goal that was not.
    Were the official influenced by Hart flapping his arms
    Then if so should he of been booked for influencing the Referee Linesman’s decision.

    mmmm

  • 126 Schwefelberg // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    The Arabian owners of Man. City must have employed people to troll all the comments sections in news sites. Every comment is boosted for them in riduculous way. Did this happen before 2008? No. Manchester the Fifth Columnists!!! The Enemy Within!!!!

  • 127 BandB // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:50 PM

    Tsunki,

    I had that exact thought about Ashley and what occurred two summers ago myself.
    He may well consider we are back to where he imagined we were in summer 2012, with a squad that was more than good enough to achieve his targets, and maybe with some fat still to be trimmed.

    The spending last January seems to have been an unforeseen emergency reinforcement. I wonder if last season’s slump has been written off as a mere freak set of circumstances brought about by playing in Europe. And if the underlying policy has been deemed sound after all, then that emergency outlay on wages can now be safely begin to be clawed back. When Kinnear says the squad is stronger, he doubtless means “more expensive” too.

    Ashley prides himself on his ability to reinvent the wheel. There is no fat on Sports Direct, and it is possible to think he just can’t fathom why football clubs pay five-figure weekly wages to players who aren’t match day regulars.
    Last February/March, Pardew complained that he wasn’t sure the January buys were better than we already had. It is possible that Ashley quietly marked the cards of Perch and Jonas after that, and Kinnear’s appointment is all about sorting the wheat from the chaff.

  • 128 OhSholaAmeobi // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    i love it when people pretend to know what’s happening when it comes to signings…

  • 129 juan // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:55 PM

    Can’t believe people on here giving Jonas some stick? The lad always tried his best and will always be welcome back. He stuck with us when we got relegated and watching him in the championship he was awesome..
    2 players who need to be booted out are cisse and overran. Cisse does not look interested and overran is just crap

  • 130 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    INDIAN MAGPIE IS DEAD

    BACK OFF

    LET ME GRIEVE

  • 131 Marty-Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 6:01 PM

    News is on SkySports that he’s gone on loan,both he and Chris Hughton commented on him being there.
    Good luck CH and Jonas

  • 132 Marty-Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    Here it is
    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20140113/gutierrez-joins-the-canaries_2281670_3619140

  • 133 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 13, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Lets hope it’s with a view to a permanent deal other wise there’s really not that much point in it; at least not from our perspective!

  • 134 mindshaft // Jan 13, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    Ferguson can barely get a game for Brum this season and going by the fan forums he’s been pretty poor when he’s came on as sub – don’t think he’s ever going to make the grade

  • 135 BandB // Jan 13, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    Jesper,

    I presume we must have offloaded at least a chunk of his salary until the end of the season, freeing up space to bring in De Jong, until the end of the season. Loans may be the new transfers for us. That would appear to also give us the option to start Remy on the left, and give Gouffran a break.

  • 136 Tsunki // Jan 13, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    jesper – there may be a point in it if he play well for Norwich. I can just imagine the comments on here if he does well there. If you recall, Jonas was a regular for ages right up to the preseason and got injured, after that he was dropped back to nothing. Thats a strange way to treat a senior player in my view. He had a very good game with the development squad recently so must be getting fit, I would guess that Pardew cannot think outside the box of his current first team and subs, finding that he was managing without Jonas he seems to have just forgotten about him. Jonas had a realistic chamce of being included in the Argentina squad so getting game time at Norwich would make more sense than sticking it out at NUFC and trying to claw his way back a la Willo style.

  • 137 mag // Jan 13, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Santon definitely to blame for the 2nd goal lazy little jog back disgraceful the guy is overrated worst full back at the club get Dummett back!




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