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Joe Kinnear Dampens Transfer Hopes For January

10:22 am, Monday, January 13th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 259 Comments

Joe Kinnear did his best in the program notes for yesterday’s game to dampen any hopes Newcastle fans have of the club adding players in January, and Joe Kinnear said the squad was now stronger than it was two years ago when we finished in 5th place and qualified for Europe.

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Joe Kinnear – we have a stronger squad than two years ago

This is what the Director of Football had to say in yesterday’s program notes:

“Given the business we did last January and with the loan addition of Loic Remy in the summer, it is our belief that we now have a squad that, in terms of quality and quantity, is stronger than we had in the season we finished fifth, and should enable the manager to deal with every reasonable eventuality.” 

“For obvious reasons, in January 2013 we did significant business, but this year we can afford to take a more calculated and considered approach – if the right player becomes available for the right price and we are sure he can improve on what we have in the squad, then we may do business.”

“If not, then we won’t. That’s how it should be. We will not be rushed or forced into making knee-jerk decisions, which experience tells us more often than not turn out to be costly mistakes.”

“Now that we have strength and depth in most areas, as well as players within our ideal age range in most positions, our intention for the first team going forward is to sign one or two players per year to improve the squad.”

“This will be done within strict financial parameters – the club will only spend what it can afford.”

We assume that if we lose top players in the summer – like Yohan Cabaye for instance as just one example –  then they will be immediately replaced.

And it seems that Newcastle may have a striker problem looming in the summer.

Shola Ameobi’s contract will end in June and it will not be renewed, and we’ll be hard pressed to get Loic Remy to sign permanently for the club.

And add to that the fact clubs are already coming in for Papiss Cisse, and a  Qatar club was apparently in Newcastle last week and had their £9M bid for the Senegal strike turned down.

So it would be good if we can get at least one striker through the door in January, otherwise we will need to bring in at least two top strikers in the summer.

What do you think?

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259 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    I feel that for some reason or another the players don’t seem up for the fight against so called lesser teams this term. I don’t know if they feel kike they have more to prove against the big boys…….who knows.
    Last week against Cardiff my wife and I had left before the final whistle because at times it was like watching paint dry,But yesterday the ground was rocking from start to finish.My concern is we desperately need a CF as Cisse looks like he’s already left us and to be fair Remy seems to have his mind else where as well

  • 2 Abbott // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    “Judge me by my signings” JK

  • 3 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:31 AM


    Ed…it is not about the money for us fans and it is not about the money for most players – it’s about prestige and about visibility.

    …most footballers want to represent their country and even attract attention from the big clubs. This would even be good for the club – it’s free PR!

    In other words of course we want European Football!

    PS: Joke in ear is a wast of salary – that money would have been better spend as binary lateral payments for some third world country! Would even have been better PR as well ;)

  • 4 Alems1983 // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Sign Ba! Say no more! I was impressed with Anita yesterday! Top pro! I think our weak spot is central defence we need a real mean no nonsense commander! Possibly lesscott on a short deal!

  • 5 jimmysmith // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    That Mbiwa tackle was really poor. Nasri was in tears. I understand it was emotional because of the circumstances surrounding the disallowed goal and also that we were pushing hard for some time for the equalizer when the player burst clear, but even so, Mbiwa appeared to willfully and malignantly kick a fellow pro, possibly endangering his season and perhaps his World Cup hopes. Wouldn’t object to some retrospective punishment for that. Poor form. Although I’m sure Mbiwa himself now feels quite sick about it and I sincerely hope Nasri is not badly hurt.

  • 6 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:35 AM


    i don’t know what the reason for it is, whether tactical, the players themselves or what….but the manager is the one who needs to sort this out and find a solution to the problem, even if it’s not him causing it.


    they can’t take action as the ref saw it and gave a yellow

  • 7 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    I personally do not feel we are in a better place as a lot of worries up front could come to haunt us.
    Come june we will have 1 recognised first team cf in the form of Cisse
    Cabs I think will be gone if not in this transfer window.
    Colo could be gone.
    Gutti-Obertan-Marvs I expect to be moved on. So in principle how does this constitute to having a stronger squad !!

  • 8 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:37 AM


    exactly…we want european football, even europa league, get some big teams from past and present in it and it’s brilliant to see.

    if the club want to get champions league you need to accept you have a good chance of europa as other big teams pushing for top 4….the only alternative is to be happy sat in mid table…which no fan or player wants.

  • 9 stuart no9 // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    But he (jk) is just an idiot who knows actually f@k all about what is needed where . If he had his own way he would buy players who we ” already ” own . He said they have covered every eventuality , hmm , what about injuries , nugget , or are we going to stay injury free for the rest of the season . You can’t cover for every eventuality unless you are a clairvoyant , but maybe he thinks he one of those as well . Some guy this JFK.

  • 10 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:38 AM


    exactly….if we don’t do some business now for 2/3 players then in the summer we may need 4/5 in just to stand still.

  • 11 Alems1983 // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    They need to jazz up the Europe league! Best way for this – champions league teams DON’T enter after dropping out of the group stage! AND most importantly the winners should qualify for champions league outright!

  • 12 BuckLuck // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    That is how it should be if we were a top 5 team. We are in no mans land – a top 8-10 team and we must invest to be able to just “sign one or two players per year to improve our squad…”.

    Improving our squad means nothing. It’s how it’s improved compared to other teams that matters.


  • 13 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:41 AM


    I don’t get the JFK role at all….he is a football man but not modern day. Pardew can say what he needs and Carr can fin them, we need a business man to go out and then negotiate the deals.

    Pardew should identify weak areas as manager and persuade players we are the right club for them. And then Ashley/chairman should be doing deals with other clubs chairmen and agents.

    The only other i’d like involved is a shearer type, somebody with respect in the game, fairly recently retired and having a passion for football/our goals to be used to speak with possible signings.

  • 14 martoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Yesterday’s no goal has been discussed to death but the only comment I would make is it seemed to take an age before they decided to disallow it.
    I have to say being at the match the way Man City break with pace and power and their running off the ball is a joy to behold. However we started to push them back in the second half and definitely deserved a draw but had no luck – I think we used it al up against Stoke :).
    Also the foul on Nasri looked a deliberate trip to stop him so a yellow card but certainly didn’t look very bad at the time – I think catching him on the knee was accidental.

  • 15 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:43 AM


    Somebody also made a good suggestion before on here. As the champs league is only on every other week in the week where there is no footy they could play europa league on w tues a wednesday, get more TV time so more money and also stop this thursday nights managers dont like

  • 16 bobby mango // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    If they turned down 9m for Cisse they are lunatics.

    Get the money in, get him off the books. Would be easy to spend less than that on someone who can do something/anything.

  • 17 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Could someone remind me again why Joke in ear is employed at this club?

  • 18 Ancientcoptic // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    Winning the Europa league is possibly our best chance at qualifying for the Champions League.

    This notion that the Europa league is a distraction will be no more next season.

  • 19 shearer and the duchess // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    My goodness grief. There’s no chance of qualifying for Europe.
    We’ve reached our rightful position. That’s where Mr Ashley wants NUFC.
    A top 10 side.

    That Mr Kinnear has the easiest job going. It’s quite remarkable that he pays his employees at Sports Direct zero hour contracts and a minimum wage, yet most will know more about the Premiership and modern day football than Mr Kinnear who will earn more in a week than they will in a year.

    That Mr Ashley is a real bubba!

  • 20 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:46 AM


    i doubt it, as the winners dont get champs league

  • 21 Rainrix // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Mbiwas challenge was bad but i do laugh at the man city fans crying their eyes out at it. At least they got the free kick, we didn’t even get given the foul when de jong broke ben arfas leg. Very short memories.

  • 22 runheed // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Jesper, ‘kin ear is earning himself a few quid for his retirement. What a brilliant job! He doesn

  • 23 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    A lot of people on here want us to qualify for the Europa League/cup
    But how many will get up off their fat arses and go and watch the TOON in the competition

  • 24 welshgeordie9 // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    I told everybody this last week that we won’t sign anybody, I just hope we don’t get any injuries to key players.

  • 25 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    Didn’t they change the rule on retrospective punnishment after the Haidara incident? I am sure they can retro-ban yanga now even though in game action was taken. We could be a victim of our own insistance.

  • 26 runheed // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    (Sh*t) .. as I was saying, he doesn’t have to do anything.
    I think Ashley is definitely Aspergers…. Knows lots about business but nothing about anything else.

  • 27 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    According to RMC, Arsenal are set to make a €36m offer for Yohan Cabaye in the coming days. More to follow. #AFC #NUFC
    +£9 million for cisse would make around £38 million pound to fund the squad for new incoming players.
    Now I know Cabs is an important squad member for nufc but I think we all know that his time with us is coming to an end. So do we take this deal now and strengthen for next season as we have nothing to play for except Europa qualification or just keep floating mid table hoping one day we may win a cup??
    Siem de jong
    Luuk de jong
    Vermalaen could all be purchased for the sale of these two players with no outlay from the hierarchy, Yet significantly building the team for a push up the table come next season

  • 28 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:52 AM


    whether people go to the game or not is irrelevant, many reasons people can’t attend games

  • 29 Alems1983 // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    To be honest I think we should beef our squad right up now! And really have a go! Have a gamble just once! Aim for the stars!!!!

  • 30 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:53 AM


    one article said it was 36mil for cabaye and santon from arsenal

  • 31 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:53 AM


    did they do anything about Lee cattermole’s tackle on Javi Garcia.

  • 32 martoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    TS @20 – I’m pretty sure they changed the rules recently although I’m not sure if it starts from this years competition or next season.
    I’m starting to wonder if Kinnear is simply a patsy to take the heat off Ashley and co. when we don’t sign anybody. As mentioned previously we will have a striker crisis in the summer and need to be planning and looking now.

  • 33 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    I though Ashley was a tight ass so I have a hard time understanding why he is throwing money away at Joke in ear.

    …maybe that should be a question at the next meeting? ;) lol

  • 34 Ancientcoptic // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Transfer Sage – from next season the winners of the Europa League will qualify for the Champions League.

  • 35 runheed // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Alums, Ashley doesn’t aim for the stars, he aims for the bottom line

  • 36 jayphoto // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    At markkacus – yea they changed it and they csn now take action even if the referee sees it aslong as he admits he was wrong and would have sent the player off given a second chance.
    Pretty sure the yellow card still protects the player tho?

  • 37 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Reading Joe’s comments

    Its very distasteful.

    Hopefully a case of Promising less and delivering more.

  • 38 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:58 AM


    that’s brilliant, as it should be really.


    it’s something that needs looking into now, and even if we have enough cover where is the harm in upgrading that cover or even upgrading the first team? i hate this standing still we have done for a year now

  • 39 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    Many cannot attend, but a lot cannot be bothered ‘is it on the box’ blah di blah
    European games in the past were a privilege to go and watch not chore
    Me for one love the night time games – the colour the atmosphere

  • 40 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    2015/16 Europa winners qualify for champions league pal. Interesting mate didn’t see the santon connection as well,Maybe we have a ready made replacement in Hadaira already !!

  • 41 stuart no9 // Jan 13, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Transfer – exactly . We need an intelligent negotiate , who can talk business like a business man , not some guy who barges in threatens to pull out if he can’t get his man for less than half than what the club want for him . That is Ashley’s role in SD , not in football

  • 42 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Massimilano Allegeri available.

    But ashley is still counting his profits.

    Mother F***er

  • 43 mag // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Kinnears job is too wind up the locals pure and simple!

  • 44 Ancientcoptic // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    The rumour about a bid from Arsenal for both Cabaye and Santon is coming from ‘caughtoffside,’ that website has zero integrity, generating false rumours to make money from the spam on its webpages.

  • 45 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    We were onlyon about that yesterday at the game as we noticed that there is a significant drop in attendances this season already. I think we only had around 49,000 there yesterday

  • 46 Ben3arfa // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    If I saw Joe Kinnear drowning in the river Tyne Id probably walk right past like nothing happened.

  • 47 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:03 AM


    well llambias was over ruled last year when ashley went in and did deals himself, some brilliant deals for the club. He clearly knows what he is doing or has the right men with him when he goes to sort it out. So that’s what we need, not a loud mouth in kinnear.


    each to their own i guess, i love a night time game at St. James’, can’t get up too often due to work/other commitments and cost but I suppose you need to accept each fan has their own way of enjoying the game.

    going doesn’t make you more of a fan I don’t think, maybe more of a supporter as putting more money into the club though…if that difference makes sense

  • 48 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    If we get 3 mill for Jonas

    Overall its a good deal. not sure at NUFC though

  • 49 shearer and the duchess // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    @ Mr Sage

    Your jib is threaded again my good fellow.

    Mr Kinnear’s role was explained by Pardew himself.

    He wanted a football man as a buffer between himself and Mr Ashley.

    He was frustrated that deals weren’t being pulled off because Mr Lambias did not understand how important a deal could be and would not go over a penny he rated the player.

    I’m not sure if he was expecting Mr Kinnear to be brought in who is on Mr Ashley’s side. Mr Ashley knew exactly what he was doing the whippersnapper.

    Surely you are aware of the background to Mr Kinnears appointment as i have explained.

  • 50 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    I think £3 mill for gutti is a fair price considering Siem de jong is available for around 5

  • 51 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:06 AM


    you will always have the hardcore, die hard fans going to games no matter what, even if we drop to conference north….but when you see the club not treating fans with respect they deserve then you can see why some stop going.

  • 52 stan anderson // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    I cant understand why a lot of you guys seem to accept the fact that we are just about finishing top 8 in the league.
    This means your season is as good as over and its only January.Good god we should be looking forward to the possible trip to Wembley for a cup final,if only the Ashley team,were wanting to take a chance and try to win a trophy.

  • 53 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:08 AM


    of course thats the official reason but it hasn’t panned out like that….pardew should be able to convince ashley to spend in a certain area of the team. If he can’t convince ashley to spend then what chance does kinnear have of doing the same?

    after all kinnear needs to justify the purchase and cost to ashley before ashley will sanction the deal, no way does kinnear have control of the cheque book

  • 54 geordiemark // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    well dont expect any players coming in like joke in near has said its because of this

  • 55 theartfuldodger // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    We know that they dont aim for transfers.
    When we are safe they just put in some bids and forget about it. If a selling club caves in then great else nothing.

  • 56 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:12 AM


    not sure what happened over Lee Clattermole. I will have to check.


    I thought they had made it so that, if the ref thinks his action was wrong, he can change it, even yellow to red? (I could be wrong). Trouble is it is still reliant on a ref admitting he was wrong.

  • 57 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    Unless there is significant investment in the squad then between 5th and 8th is all we can hope for really with hopefully a cup one day to put in the cabinet

  • 58 mag // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    Kinnear is a windup merchant he was telling the youngsters after the Stoke game we had bid 12 million for Hernandez from Man Utd. So ignore anything he has to say.

  • 59 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    There is a lot of empathy to Europa League games amongst fellow season ticket holders – pity
    3,000 missing – most of them were Man Shitty supporters as there was a large area between their supporters and ours empty. Plus a lot of empty seats amongst the fans that were there.

  • 60 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:13 AM


    they should want to make it like rugby…impartial officials, independent of the referees look into all games and decide on any contentious decisions.

  • 61 Ben3arfa // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Kinnear the pedophile

  • 62 Alems1983 // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    Colo is off, cabaye I believe will be too after the world cup, we’re gonna need 2 centre backs, 2 strikers and a cabaye replacement – answer is vermaelen, Johnny Evans, cabella, Ba and Gomis

  • 63 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:18 AM


    3 million for Jonas is an excellent deal. His wages are freed up too.

    If only Joe had a brain in order.

  • 64 stan anderson // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    Charlie @ 23,I think some people are missing the matches as they,re pi–ed off with whats happening to our club.
    Fair do,s we have had a better than expected start in the league,but we are,nt showing the ambition the fans deserve.
    I would love to see how many would turn up to pay on the day to see us play Hull or Cardiff etc.not many me thinks.

  • 65 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    at this rate we will find to hold on to tiote

  • 66 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    will find it hard I meant

  • 67 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    And to think some on here last season were wanting MR T gone eh, How fickle a fan can be.
    A lot of empty seats in the milburn and platinum as well bud

  • 68 Belfast // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    What a load of tosh. Take two players out of our first 11 and we’re a mid table side. Strength in depth my ass.

    On the bright side, 3 million for Jonas ?? Haha brillant…

  • 69 stan anderson // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    This is my point Jazzy we are not investing in our squad are we,it is not rocket science to understand this.We have a basis of a good squad now why not speculate a bit while we are in a good position.This is where we are being let down by those in charge,Ashleys+ cronies.

  • 70 theartfuldodger // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    In the summer we may need a replacement for collocini,cabaye plus 2 CFs. Thats just to stay on level terms.

  • 71 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    T sage

    I think there are many aspects of football that could benefit from a rugby style approach. Sin bins would make for an interesting half season until players got used to not being idiots!

  • 72 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:30 AM


    I must hold my hands up. I thought his pirouettes had been found out.

  • 73 wolfshead@toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:30 AM


    theres no chance of that joe won 7 olympic golds at munich in ’72 ;-)

  • 74 Thump // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    @HD: Do you not mean Larrson’s tackle on Garcia? If so: no retrospective action was taken.

    On that note, can Mbiwa actually be retrospectively banned? The ref not only saw it but gave him a yellow (should have been a red, I certainly wouldn’t have argued it).

  • 75 mag // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    If the owner is ambitious why does he employ cheapskates like Pardew and Kinnear? They have never had it so good in charge of a massive club with great support yet they are proven managerial failures. In fact Kinnear relegated the club and is welcomed back hw does that work?

  • 76 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    Totally agree bud, When we finished 5th should have been the time to bring in some top players as we would have been a more attractive proposition. Strike while the irons hot……and I don’t think it would need that much investment to keep us riding high in the top tier either. But alas the fat controller cannot see this and we are stuck with what we have !!

  • 77 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:34 AM


    Yes, couldn’t remeber who it was though must be cattermole. :P

  • 78 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:34 AM


    sin bins would only work if they made yellows harder to get…a yellow is quite difficult to get in rugby compared to football.

    too many players would be off the field.

  • 79 Belfast // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    I’m sure the ref yesterday really gives a toss. He’ll ref a league 1 game next week and be back doing a premiership game the following week.

    I actually think he was trying to be smart yesterday, but made a complete ferk up. He lost the plot for a while after it, dishing out cards left right and center.

    Also that Mbiwa tackle on Nasri looks worse every time you see it.

  • 80 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM


    exactly. we have shown we can bring in good quality for little money, little in prem league terms anyway…so why should we not have a little bit of a gamble.

    nobody is saying go spend 100mil but maybe 20/30, just a push…worst case is we don’t get top 4 and we just sell one or two of them on to recoup our money.

  • 81 Thump // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    @HD: Where there’s a dodgy challenge, Cattermole is always a safe bet matey!

  • 82 clinath@ed // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    Joe Hart has watched the shot 3 times on TV now, and he still hasn’t seen the ball pass him!!! Lol!

  • 83 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    Its being reported that someone died at the game yesterday in the East Stand. I saw a ambulance go passed the Gallowgate as we were qeueing to get in – If so sad to here and thoughts with the family

  • 84 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    It took the officials a while to come up with the “joke decision” yesterday by ruling offside for the goal, my issue is that the game was stopped for at least 3 or 4 mins and an incorrect decision was made, surely a video replay would have meant 1 min minimum stoppage to get the right decision!!

    MYM challenge on Nasri is disgusting, he has 3 kicks at him and the last one which was on his knee was very aggressive and uncalled for, how he could do that to a fellow international colleague is beyond me, if the rules Nasri out then MYM may struggle to get back into French side

    Anita, Gouffran, Williamson and Saylor at fault for there first goal which just isn’t good enough, did we do enough to win? Remy missed our 2 best chances but they created the better chances!! We played well without really threatening Hart, the funny thing is that we were being pummelled up until that disallowed goal, the impact of that decision was that our players played with anger!! Also Cabaye was fortunate to remain on the pitch, we played well but didn’t create enough to win!!

  • 85 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    T sage

    For a while it would be like that, until players learned to cut down on the synical stuff and back chat that is ruining the game.

  • 86 Belfast // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    Loan deal for Jonas apparently. Thought that 3 million sounded like bullshit

  • 87 70TWO // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    My apologise, yesterday I read a shortened version of the programme notes shown above and was insulted by the view it seemed to express towards fans, As usual when remarks are taken out of context from their original meaning the understanding of them can change.

  • 88 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    Thump and Hd

    … and if its not cattermole then Bardsley is a good shout :D

  • 89 martoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    Jazzyp @45 – I noticed the crowd was not as large as usual but I noticed as it was a category A game tickets were £44 for adults which I assumed just after Xmas was too much for casual attenders.

  • 90 Belfast // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    Said that last night our toon. That decision completely changed the game. Thought we were going to get stuffed before that happened.

  • 91 AMEOBI // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    Anyone know what time all the balon d’or starts?
    Waiting like a sack to open these packs on fifa, anyone the same? Haha

  • 92 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:48 AM


    We were playing well before that disallowed goal. had a good patch Tayor could have scored from a corner.

    MYM could have done France a favor by taking out that bad apple Nasri.

  • 93 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:50 AM


    maybe…but still think a lot of tackles are very soft yellows. Would need to stop them being yellow unless accumulative fouls (there should be a limit for that too, like 3 fouls, not just refs discretion).

  • 94 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:50 AM


    5.30 PM GMT

  • 95 cyprus // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    Wait a minute: We?
    Was JFK here last January?

  • 96 TudgeNUFC // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    What has happened to the money coming in from the big Wonga deal? And the new TV rights? And the money for finishing last year? None of it has been spent apart from on Remys loan fee. So Kinnear saying we will only spend what the club can afford is nonsense as we can afford to spend a few quid but it all goes in Cashleys back pocket. We obviously need to invest because as soon as we lost a few players to injury and suspension we lost 4 matches in a row. This is just him trying to justify him being useless and stealing a wage at the club.

  • 97 Thump // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    @Tudge: We have to pay Wonga back with 1300% APR so Ashley is a bit hesitant.

  • 98 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM


    That goal was disallowed after 32mins, we managed 0 shots on target and 1shot off target, we were hopeless at that stage…..Saylor chance was Negrado kicking the ball off Saylors studs!! After the debacle of the French fallout from last tourno the likes of Nasri etc were dropped but I’m certain France would rather have him there than not

  • 99 Slank // Jan 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    Our Toon @ 84

    Completely agree with you on that assault by MYM on Nasri. It was a straight red. Also Cabaye should have received two yellows and in possibly any other game Tiote would have been off too.

    To me this was the Ref, in his own peculiar way, evening things up because he knew he had made a mistake with the goal and didn’t want to inflict any more punishment on us.

  • 100 AMEOBI // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Cheers HD

  • 101 TudgeNUFC // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    @Thump haha good point, still the rest of the money is there to be spent if we choose too and the investment would help us maybe get into Europe and a higher league position meaning at the end of the year we get more money anyway, so if it paid off would be more like an investment. Also think if this Qatar club are buying Cisse we should put all that money into signing Remy permanently whilst we still look like a decent side.

  • 102 Slank // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    Trudge @ 96

    Have you seen the books at NUFC that enables you to make these statements? Of course you haven’t.

  • 103 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    lol 3m for guti not a chance i would guess the fee will be 1m at most with the more probable outcome of a loan deal.

  • 104 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:08 PM


    well in september 2011 jonas signed a new contract, reported 50k a week until june 2015.

    so surely using the logic of when we buy including wages if we can sell for 3mil then add the 3.75mil from wages we have almost 7mil to spend

  • 105 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:09 PM

    9m for cisse if thats true and we have turned it down then it is ridiculous. The lad is one of the worst footballers to play in the prem.

  • 106 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:10 PM

    TS dont be silly they only use that theory when it suits and when selling it does not lol.

  • 107 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:11 PM


    i guess it depends how likely they seemed to up their bid, if it gets us extra then its ok by me

  • 108 TudgeNUFC // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    @Slank do I need too? prize money and the sponsorship deal as well as the money for TV rights are made known to the public. Doesn’t take a financial genius to understand that with that kind of money coming in and no obvious increase in expenditure that the club has money to spend unless Ashley is just taking the profit.

  • 109 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:13 PM


    in fairness the reports are that money comes in at the end of the season for the new big tv deal, so should be around the summer we have it.

  • 110 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:13 PM


    I found it astonishing that some on here were trying to justify it by what De Jong did to HBA, quite sickening!! I agree with you in regards to the ref evening it up, in the long run he has do us a favour by not sending these players off!!

    The disallowed goal was a shocker but we had 90+ mins to go on and get another goal and we couldn’t!! I thought substitutions came too late in the game!! Anita should have stayed on, we lost control when he went off, Haidara was at fault for the 2nd goal playing Negrado onside!! Why bring a full back on when looking for a goal?

    I would have bought Marv on as we were looking for a goal, should have taken off Sissoko (runs a lot but no end product) Gouffran (fell asleep on a couple of occasions one which led to the goal) and Santon (had a good game) change it to 3 CB’s and 2 holding midfielders!!

  • 111 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    our toon

    we keep making the sub to bring on haidara in every game, i find it odd.

  • 112 Belfast // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    Suprised that Norwich can afford his wages tbh

    Hopefully ship Obertan out next.

  • 113 Bambams // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    I have not posted as often as i used to but i just had to share what i was told at a recent ‘Footballers talk-in’ (please do not jump on me asking to name the footballer because i wont he is a very decent person and i dont want to cause him grief)
    Anyway, he was asked about Ash and his plans. He stated he the man is very uncomfortable around the players, whenever he pops into the dressing room on a matchday he is reserved and does not say a lot. He did add it was well known to the staff and players he is only interested in finishing in the top 10, advertise SD and that Kinnear was brought in to ‘prevent’ transfers. Someone to protect Ash from probably Pards always asking for funds. Pards ‘did know llambias from his gambling days (Fact) and he stated Kinnear is a decent footballing bloke the players actually get on with.
    The players are aware the club is constantly up for sale as are they, Ash will allow players to leave at a profit and they all know this.
    I (thats me not him) will be very surprised if we sign anyone, the books are balanced, Ash has his cash and at the end of the season the club (ash) will get a huge windfall which he will pocket and i have no doubt the club will be sold. He just wanted his money back ! IMO

    Does any of his actions lately contradict this ?
    Time will tell….

  • 114 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    TS i think Pards rates Haidara highly and wants to blood him in but when we need goals and are chasing games i do find it odd that we waste a substitution

  • 115 hazzy // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    I don’t get why Managers complain about Thursday – Sunday fixtures. If they made it to the Champions league then they would be playing Wednesday – Saturday which is exactly the same amount of time between games and the early fixtures in the group stage are far more competitive making it even harder on the Saturday.
    I know people are going to point to Swansea but they’re sitting comfortable mid table without any worries of relegation like we were with a worse squad than ours as well

  • 116 Slank // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    Fudge @ 108

    You clearly are not a financial genius or even an accountant because you would know that financial management of an organisation is not simple and with football clubs not straight forward.

    Why shouldn’t the owner or any owner for that matter take money out of the thing that he or she owns outright?

  • 117 TudgeNUFC // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    TS yeah for the new big deal the previous deal is still there it just isn’t at 60mil still getting money from TV. I’m not suggesting that we spend fortunes, just obviously need to sign some players and give the squad some depth, only time we make a sub that I think could change the game is HBA, whenever we bring on Cisse or Ameobi (who to be fair has been better recently) I never think oh now we have a chance.

    Look at Everton yes they have Lukaku on loan but have made good investments over the last few years consistently strengthening the squad whenever they can, and they are well known for not being a financially rich club.

  • 118 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:24 PM


    Don’t be surprised at Norwich being able to afford Gutierriez wages, they bought RVW for a canny amount and are one of the clubs we can’t compete with!!

    On the JFK statement, I firmly believe that this man has been bought in to take the flack, he’s not here to sign players, he’s here to stop us signing players and to take the pressure off MA!! JFK is doing exactly what he’s been appointed to do, we give him stick but really he’s just another puppet!! The guy can’t even string a sentence together I would be amazed if he wrote that for the program notes, the PR team must be in overdrive covering for this idiot!!


    I don’t see the benefit of playing the for 10 or 15 mins, especially when we are chasing the game!!

  • 119 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    The crowds are still down on last season tho pal, And last season was a disaster.
    Just heard a fan died in the east stand yesterday, My heart goes out to there family……

  • 120 lesh // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    If Kinnear’s saying that of quality and quantity of the squad is stronger than we had in the season we finished fifth, and should enable the manager to deal with every reasonable eventuality, then he’s clearly living on another planet. (Even if they found something like him on. Mars, they’d say they had not found a y sign of life!)

    What the Ashley mouthpiece fails to acknowledge is that the squad’s not big enough! Gosling was recalled and benched to justify Kinnear’s argument.

    The man is a servile sychophant wbo’s been brought in to do Ashley’s bidding and is clearly he’s no authority or ambition whatsoever.

    Can anyone blame players for joining us only as a stepping stone?

  • 121 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:28 PM


    I think we should spend more than we do, just not sure how much more.


    Football is much different to any other business. Your customers are fans as well, they don’t just buy the product because it is good, they buy it because they are in love with the team, have very deep connections and it is part of the local community.

    Nobody should take money out of the club for their own gain, except in wages and a fair amount for it. The same goes for shepherd who did the same.

    For me football clubs should be treat as old/historic buildings, listed and certain things shouldn’t be allowed to change like strip colour, crest, etc (unless significant % of fan approval).

  • 122 TudgeNUFC // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    @Slank I never said I was I was saying it doesn’t take one to see it, I am not saying all money should be put back into the club, money can be spent and him still make a profit, as a fan is it a problem to ask the owner of the club to show some ambition?

    And as I said if he spent money now to improve the squad and therefore getting us higher in the table and possibly European football then that would mean we would get more money at the end of the season, which he could take a bigger cut of the profit from, making him more money, also leaving the club in a better position and a higher value asset to him to be able to sell once he is ready.

  • 123 Slank // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    Our Toon @ 110

    I agree with you again!

    To me, Pardew brings on Ben Arfa too late in the game. It really doesn’t give him enough time to make a significant impact. I can’t recall us turning around a game recently when Ben Arfa has been brought on in the last 15 minutes or so. Perhaps someone out there can enlighten me.

  • 124 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:31 PM


    Excellent post, I won’t press you on who the player is but it sums up exactly where we are, I have said previously that fans give JFK stick and wonder what he’s paid for……he’s paid to take the flack whilst MA continues to take money out of club to pay himself back!! We have no ambition

  • 125 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:31 PM

    our toon and slank

    yeh benny always gets on to late to settle and then have enough chances to make an impact. it’s always too liitle too late

  • 126 70TWO // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:33 PM


    And there I was thinking he was in it for the long run and that he was hoping to become the darling of the Geordie nation! You are most definitely right it has always been his intention to ‘turn’ the club for a profit. Luckily he has not gullibly sold to ‘waste of space’ owners that would potentially rebrand and put the club into major debt.

  • 127 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:38 PM


    Here’s a stat for you mate, we’ve only won 1 game this season from a losing position and that was against Stoke, I think this shows just how ineffective we are tactically when losing or when utilising subs!! I hear ppl on here say HBA is better as an impact sub, he has no assists and 1 goal as a sub this season (10 games) and 2 goals with 6 assists from 9 starts

    We’ve also dropped the most pts from winning positions this season

  • 128 Toon Tang // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM

    isnt this why joe is at the club, to feel the wrath of the fans when mike doesnt want to ‘dip in’.

    Thats all he was brought in for eh

  • 129 Slank // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:41 PM

    TS @ 121

    Yes, I did say that football clubs were different.

    I disagree with you on taking money out of the club. Whilst this doesn’t apply to Ashley at the moment, but if people who are prepared to risk their own money to buy a football club and make it prosper then they have the right to reward themselves for the risk they have taken. If this basic right didn’t exist it is arguable that football clubs would not prosper, perhaps some may not exist.

    At the moment it’s all to do with money and Sunday was a good example of what money, and lots of it, can do to a club that had faded from the scene for so long and was overshadowed by its neighbour.

  • 130 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:46 PM


    in theory though ashley could easily right off the 300mil he has invested in the club and not really notice it, so it’s not a big risk to him when he has another company worth 3/4billion.

    the problem is how much and when do they take money out? I believe only once has ashley taken money out, not like he takes every single penny the club makes so he is responsible that way.

    I still think owners shouldn’t take money though, if they are successful the club becomes worth more anyway, so when they sell it they get their money back and a profit, that way to get your money back and profit you need to leave the club in a good way, not just improve, take your cash, then run it into the ground (not saying Ashley is doing that by the way).

  • 131 Slank // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    Our Toon @ 127

    Thanks for that. I had a feeling that that might have been the case.

    I don’t know what other people think but would it be better to start with Ben Arfa and then take him off? Is it better to defend a lead than chase a win?

  • 132 Rainrix // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    Our Toon @ 110… If you’re referring to my comment about de jong at 21 on ben arfa in no way am i justifying mbiwas challenge in fact i even say its a bad challenge. I was simply sniping at man city fans who are going on about it when they’ve done the exact same to us. I’ve seen city fans saying we tried to kick them off the park/newcastle are the dirtiest team in the league ect.. kinda annoying considering what happened to HBA

    Once more for the record Mbiwas challenge was bad, he should of just tugged his shirt back and gave the foul away like that. I doubt he was trying to seriously injure nasri and you can tell he knew he made a mistake as he didn’t leave nasris side when he stayed down.

  • 133 John Tudor // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    did the city fans care when that b bust ben 10 leg i think not sorry jimmy bad tackle maybe but i hate that bloke

  • 134 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Hi all,

    Im so gutted for tiote! had a great season so far, seems to flourish when he has the captaincy and he kept himself together yesterday after what must have been a hugely gut wrenching moment for him.

    Anita was excellent again. I know a lot dont rate him but for me he is exactly what we need. He always looks to move us forwards up the pitch. Cabaye and tiote quite often go backwards or sideways. He also works well in pockets and playing one touch passes. Another great performance from him, taking him off imo was a terrible decision we started to lose control of the midfield then.

    Cabaye frustrates me taking on so many long range efforts. When a good player has the space he normally does when he takes these shots they should be looking to make chances or take on the last defender not shoot from 30+ yards. A stat came up at one point Man city 7 shots two on target Yohan cabaye 7 shots 3 on target i was like ffs! its constant! I have said this loads on here i like him as a box to box player and advanced too but for some reason he is all about shooting and not so much about the killer pass this season.

    I think sissoko and gouff for whatever reason need a break they are both off the pace totally at the moment. also not sure why Sissoko seems to change boots at half time in every game?! Cisse is getting a lot of grief at the moment but im really unsure why remy hasnt been dropped for him he isnt banging chances away and hes not our player. Give cisse the start and give him a decent chance. Remy has had quite a few one on ones and i would have fancied cisse in those positions he is clinical just gets very few chances laid on for him. Would love to see him back on the goals and for everyone to get off his back. Creating chances in and around the box is where we fall down so poachers are not likely to flourish in our current system.

    Im unsure how i feel about our performance yesterday. Obviously the tiote goal debarcle changed the game tremendously but while we may have done well we didnt really create a great deal as usual. Whereas when city had the ball they were breaking at pace, with power and purpose something we rarely do.

    Im not really fussed about transfers in or out i think MA/JK/AP are right our squad is considerably better now than it was when we finished fifth and it should be a top 7/8 team regardless of whether we make any additions.

  • 135 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Gutz would be a good signing for Norwich. He will help the midfeild keep hold of the ball. Was always reliable for us. Nothing spectacular but never really let us down when called upon.

  • 136 Slank // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    TS @ 130

    We will just have to agree to disagree as it’s not as if Ashley is bleeding the club dry by pocketing all the profits although reading what so many fans write you would think so!

  • 137 Jail for Ashley // Jan 13, 2014 at 12:59 PM

    Pretty much agree with what Bambams has said except I think Mashley is here for the long haul, mid table with no out goings for the next six years while Pardew is here, so he pockets the extra 30M TV money every year on top of his free advertising and disappearing revenues obviously going somewhere and then a fire sale when he’s had enough, it’ll make the money Hall/Shepherd took look like small change.

  • 138 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:00 PM


    works for me, better than weeks or arguments on an issue…but i do agree with you he isn’t bleeding us try even though i want a bit more ambition..not just players but academy/coaching


    the squad is better but so are many others in the prem league, also in the summer we lose shola and remy, so we will need 2/3 strikers then, makes sense to get one or two in now surely.

    7/8th is where we should be but a few more gives us chance to push on, which is surely what we all want. only 1 loan signing in the summer so not like we spent big then and have to make do now

  • 139 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:02 PM


    Sorry mate wasn’t sniping at you in particular but just what I’ve heard fellow fans say, I know what you mean about Citeh fans saying we kicked them off the park etc, maybe we need to show that type of fight more often, I think we showed that Citeh have a frailty they don’t like being roughed up….having said that both challenges were cowardly!!


    I’d rather have Benny starting and giving us the best chance to win the game from the off, if we get a 2 goal advantage take him off!! We rarely have a game where we do have a 2 goal advantage though which is why we always throw pts away

  • 140 Bambams // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    Our Toon

    You have summed it up better than me ….

    ‘We have no ambition’

    Spot on fella

  • 141 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:06 PM


    Respect to Ourtoon v rainrix and t sage v slank….. both pairs have settled differing opinions amicably. It has restored my faith that not all football fans are nutters :D

  • 142 Rainrix // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:06 PM

    Our Toon…. Ah no problem mate, just seeing as i was the only one who pointed that out so far on the blog i thought it was directed at me. :)

    Though you’re right any way 2 wrongs don’t make a right and all that.

  • 143 Rainrix // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    Markaccus…. You wanna start a beef blud? I’ll settle you amicably :)

  • 144 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    CJ Toon

    If Cabaye is 20 or 25 yards out I’d want him to shoot, the lad has a really good shot on him and quite frankly Remy is useless!! Apart from Cabayes shots who else managed to get an effort on target yesterday? I can think of Remy and Anita with a tame shot, however I agree with the rest of your sentiments regarding yesterday’s game

  • 145 bills-son // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:11 PM

    Kinnear thinks we have a squad to deal with every reasonable eventuality?

    He could argue that in defense or midfield but never for the strikers. Who scores if Remy gets injured? Cisse looks like a busted flush and Shola will do most things except score.

    Add in the fact that Remy is off form, could face jail and isn’t our player anyway …..

    Joe, you must be joking.

  • 146 cbell // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:13 PM

    Cabella on his way to Newcastle apparenty!

  • 147 cbell // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:13 PM


  • 148 Jail for Ashley // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    For all the people who think Mikey is here for a long term strategic success story rather than my theory of mid table mediocrity till he has his money back, why can’t he share his vision with the fans, we’re not Nissan or apple, we’re a football club loved by tens of thousands of fans and deserve not to be kept in the dark.
    As for the youth academy all it takes is one Andy Caroll or Theo Walcott and it’s paid for itself, do you think we’ll see any of that money.

  • 149 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:17 PM


    Oh yeah?? Come on then, settle me. Settle me right there, on the chin. :D

  • 150 Wayayman // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:17 PM

    @cbell 147, that Tweet is a fake

  • 151 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:19 PM

    CJ Cisse is anything but clinical when in front of goal he is extremely instinctive but if he has time to finish he will miss more than he scores.

  • 152 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:21 PM


    How reliable is that?

  • 153 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:21 PM


    Obviously we would all like additions im sure there isnt a team in the league that wouldnt want more good players.

    I dont want to get into the finacial MA arguement but i think as always seems to be the case we need to wait just a little longer before seeing his true intent. I do believe this summer is the big tell tale. Right now we are sat fairly comfortably (i think). There is no need to rush transfers like we did last jan. I agree that unless something suits us we shouldnt go for it.

    Obviously we could do with further players and equally could do with shifting a few. I just think for me personally next summer is where we find out what the future holds. The new TV money will be available and the final league Standing money. A few players will leave on frees and no doubt a couple will/should get shifted out. So there is no reason we shouldnt be in a position to spend 15-20mil on strengthening. Obviously if we sell anyone considered first 11 they will need to be replaced too.

    I disagree that we have no ambition. Im pretty certain everyone in football has ambition to be bigger and better from youth level to international players. Managers, chairmen everyone wants to be/do better -earn more money whatever the motive it normally leads to progression when done sensibly. There are lots of contributing factors to us not perhaps doing as well as we could. Im 24 and for most of my years supporting newcastle we have been a combination of safe mid-table with a possible shout for europe if on form. Or under SBR genuine champs league place contenders (in a much weaker league). I do feel we expect a lot sometimes but all i want to do is enjoy the football and support my team. Regardless where we finish or who we sign I want to see positive committed and purposeful football. perhaps not overly ambitious in reality but thats what football is for me passion, unpredictabilty, excitement and heartbreak its all part of being a fan and i love it all.

  • 154 spitfire_ // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    Yeah the team is good as that team who finished fifth… unfortunately for joe kinnear there is two minor problems… first is that Remy isn’t ours but Ba was ours two seasons ago… and the second minor problem is the othre clubs are stronger than two seasons ago.

  • 155 Rainrix // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    Markaccus… Bigg market, 8 o clock, bring a rolling pin and vaseline we’ll settle this like men :)

  • 156 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:26 PM

    Just went to cabellas supposed real account and there is no sign of that tweet.

  • 157 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    No vasaline, Rainrix.

    Cant beat a dry run!

    No time for lubricant…

  • 158 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:33 PM

    our toon:

    I dnt know i have a bit of an anti cabaye agenda not sure why he just irritates the life out of me. I know a lot of people will think im mad i just dont see him as this midfield god others do. He isnt world class imo. I think he is a good player but his decision making infuriates me. Although his usual poor set piece delivery mainly corners where very good yesterday. I dont mind him shooting its just theres a time and a place. If we are winning feel free to go for numerous speculative efforts. If we are bossing a game we are losing why waste possession in a good area and why not keep it on the ground a play the passes we all know he is capable of playing.

    nufc 83:

    Fair enough we will follow in our fellow bloggers footsteps and agree to disagree. I like cisse and without his wrongly disallowed goals last season he would have had a respectable total in a struggling side.

    There arent many strikers that thrive in the super sub role! cisse is one of them, i just feel remy has been off form and it wouldnt hurt to give the player we actually own a chance to turn his form around.

  • 159 Rainrix // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    Markaccus…. Mate i cant fight without lube, i wont be aerodynamic enough ;)

  • 160 Ciaran // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    9m for Cisse? I’d carry him away myself for that money! He’s awful.

  • 161 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    pardew has no ambition

    he just wants to “contain” his position as the manager,

    Europe made him look very bad as he was out of depth,

  • 162 Jail for Ashley // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    We have heard the extent of Mashleys ambition line every window since being promoted, myself and bills debated last year about the merits of bringing in five players, I said desperation to fight off relegation he said ambition, well we heard it from the horses mouth piece in yesterdays programme notes, that we done so much business last January for obvious reasons, it was obvious we would be relegated it wasn’t obvious we wanted to win the EL and finish top six.

  • 163 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:38 PM


    it’s difficult to tell with the ambition as most of the time there seems to be a great chance for us to do some good business we don’t.

    I said i’d judge MA summer gone, we didn’t do much business, i then said i’d judge this jan as after last year he may have decided he could get a few bargains in jan and now i can see myself saying in the summer we have the new TV deal money so maybe that’s out chance.

    I personally think we need to strike now, even just one or two good players in…but if little/nothing happens now and then the same in the summer it will put the nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned.

  • 164 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:39 PM


    cabaye is a very good player

    just crap at set plays, its like if he has to think about it, its will bad, but when he just hits things in normal play, he looks like he knows exactly where its going

  • 165 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    You do know this a football site and not a gay porn chat site don’t ya lol…………I see a bromance coming on

  • 166 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    id keep cisse, ,

    I would improve the service to him in the box

    pardew is letting him down, not cisse letting pardew down

  • 167 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    Its strange how, over the years, many goalscorers have suddenly lost form when they have arrived at nufc.
    Remy. Cisse. Owen. Tomasson. Luque. Off the top of my head, these were all players who were supposedly deadly.

  • 168 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:42 PM


    I listened to radio newcastle for sunderlands game this weekend and they were saying they were impressed to have seen 5/6 well worked set piece routines under poyet.

    For me this is our problem, especially for cabaye, he plays the ball to willo 95% of the time (surely under instruction) when the only set plays we have scored from have gone to remy and gouffran…we should be aiming for our forwards more than our defenders i feel.

  • 169 El Sleeve // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    2 things about the tiote “goal”

    1. according to the new rule, the goal should of stood. according to the spirit of the game, even tho he didn’t touch it or hinder harts vision, he was offside. but the ref needs to interpret it using the letter of the law

    2. the solution: football is a flowing sport, unlike rugby, cricket, tennis or american football which is all very stop start. you cannot have the players, fans and managers questioning every single decision. indeed the refs still need to feel valued and have a bit of respect and integrity since they are only human after all.
    so, with all that in mind, you shift the onus away from the refs mistakes and onto the players honesty. you do this by allowing 2 challenges per team, per game where the decision is referred up to the video ref in the stands, away from the touchline and 4th official. that way the players have to become more honest, the ref still have majority control of decisions and the flow of the game is preserved.
    the clock can also be stopped during referral.

    will any of this happen? cause it won’t. the FA and FIFA are too stuck on the preserving the status quo for i fear very corrupt reasons keeping them this way.

  • 170 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:43 PM


    owen was deadly, 7 in first 10…then broke his foot before injuring his knee when he returned with england…it took his pace and he wasn’t the same player.

  • 171 70TWO // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:43 PM


    I do wonder if Cabaye will become a flop at another club, like many NUFC players before him and end up sitting warming a bench. However I also look at some of the other teams above us and wonder at the fluidity of the passing and movement. Perhaps his ‘options’ are as limited on the field as they are off at the moment …. one or two wanting to make the right move but holding back defensively.

  • 172 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    Why would you listen to a mackem game ??

  • 173 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    el sleeve

    terrible idea i feel…could use your challenges tactically to stop a dangerous counter.

  • 174 cbell // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    Hmm I’m not sure Markaccus. He could have been told to take it down.

    I don’t think it has been edited.. Simply because the person who is sharing it hasn’t grasped the concept of printscreen.

    Anyone that uses photo editing software would not do such a thing!

  • 175 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:46 PM


    Fair point re owen. Still shows we are unlucky when it comes to forwards. Remember when we managed to sign the only out and out cf from the 98 world cup winning french team, and he played abouy 50 mins in total or something. Guivarch. There is an apostrophe in there somewhere.

  • 176 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:48 PM


    in the car and don’t mind seeing how they get on, i like all north east side in any sport to do well, brings more money/talent to the area.

  • 177 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    J For A:

    Thats fair enough i think most realised it was panic buys (signings brought forwards in a couple of cases gouff and sissoko – which i may be slightly naive in believeing). Im not naive enough to think MA wouldnt have learnt form that incident that we do need to continually strengthen though. Even if he has no ambition to blow a whole load of money on transfers, what im saying is evryone else at the club should have enough collective ambition (and more importantly ability) to do better than we are. But this summer will be my main indicator to whether i believe we are taking it slow and steady or settling with what we have got.

  • 178 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:49 PM

    T sage

    On the other hand…. we could probably get 5 or 6 blog members to create set peices good enough to score v Fulham. They are truely an awful side this year.

  • 179 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:49 PM


    i think in the past shepherd wanted to just spend money on the big players without looking into how they would fit into the side…that’s where ashley does have the advantage using scouts well. It’s a shame we couldn’t combine the two owners and get the best from both.

  • 180 Ciaran // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:50 PM

    Cisse has no redeeming qualities. He doesn’t work hard, doesn’t hold the ball up well, doesn’t possess an aerial threat. So unless he is lashing worldlies (which he hasn’t done since his first 14 games) he is useless. Get rid.

  • 181 belgrade fan // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    Anybody please to tell me what is our goal in this season?

  • 182 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:51 PM


    true, but at least they try a variety. we rarely do.

    i remember us floating the ball to the edge of the box for colo once or twice, and cutting it back for ba from corners….it came close to working but kept going back to willo far too often.

    a little more varitation would be nice, especially when pardew acknowledged we needed to improve them

  • 183 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I heard the commentators during the city match, a guy came on and said that the coaching staff at city were happy that one of the new moves they worked on nearly came off,,

    our variation was, we sent taylor up, but we still aimed for Williamson,,

    but this pardew is a young and up and coming manager,

    listening to pardews comments about pelegrini , fu***** old ****,
    do you think he knows his own age ? he is 52, pelgrini is 58, not much between them,

  • 184 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:52 PM


    A genetically spliced football owner?? Is it ethical? Would it cause madness in the subject….. maybe that question is answered. Maybe Vincent Tan is a GM owner, and thats why he is a gibbering fruit loop.

  • 185 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:54 PM


    i think tan is just a clone of lesley chow from the hangover movies….nothing spliced together yet.

  • 186 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    ……. “New NUFC owner, Freddy Ashley has sacked JFK and placed his Gran in charge of transfers….”

  • 187 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:57 PM


    pardew is cisses problem

    he was bought with these very same qualities, he didn’t just lose them,

    the guy still makes runs,

    but what I don’t see, is players slipping in the ball, crosses coming in,

    right now, our team shoots from 40 yards, most of our MF do it,

  • 188 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:57 PM


    I have never seen any of the hangover movies. They just do not appeal to me. I like funny films, just not that kind.

  • 189 Rainrix // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    Jazzy… Feeling left out mate? Don’t worry you support newcastle making you a masochist at heart, you’re in the same boat :)

  • 190 Rainrix // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    Not sure if this has been posted but:

  • 191 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM


    just google lesley chow then…he’s also insane so fits the character as well as looks

  • 192 Rake // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    @ Catchy I agree I wouldn’t get rid of Cisse. But do you not feel the problem is having a striker and a center mid on the wings?. If we had wingers who could get the the by line and whip in crosses Cisse would get opportunities.

    I think we are desperate for a proper winger Sissoko and Gouffran have done well but they don’t deliver the service needed. I personally don’t think Ben Arfa should be told to get the ball in to the box as quickly as possible. Tell him to run at the defender beat him and whip it in.. simple right?.

    Personally I’m tired of Ben Arfa getting in a good position and holding onto the ball for too long.

  • 193 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    Couple of points to make, did anyone else find it amusing when Pardew said that we are in the entertainment business in yesterday’s post match interview? Maybe he should realise that and play HBA from the start and set the team up to attack rather than contain


    Bit harsh on Cisse mate, if we played to the lads strength then he’s already shown the type of striker he can be, he’s in better form than Remy at the minute!! It seems as though we try our best not to play to players strengths!!

    CJ Toon

    Cabaye in team full of attacking movement would be class, how many times are we going to make the excuse of he just doesn’t fit into the way we play, HBA, Cisse, Remy, Cabaye, Marv etc lets get rid of them because they don’t fit into our style of of football!! There has to come a point when someone says enough is enough surely it’s not the players but the set up which is preventing these players from playing to there potential!!

  • 194 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:10 PM


    Totally the same for me. I think in a top team he would need to be more of a team player because the players around him wouldnt put up with it. Likewise the manager wouldn’t lick his bum pipe quite so much. Pardew is constantly telling cabaye he is world class to try and keep him here. So maybe he has a bit of an inflated feeling of self worth and for me always looking for the shot would really annoy me if i was his teammate. Remy makes good runs off the ball but never really gets much more than a williamson (pirlo) effort to run after.

    Its ironic really because if he played like that for us we could be in a better position to become the sort of team he has ambitions to play for. Its a funny one. I dont think he would rot on the bench anyway but he would have to adapt and be more of a team player.

    all my opinion obviously. Id happily see him leave though for a decent fee.

  • 195 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:11 PM

    Cisse did ok with Ba on one wing and Gutz on the other. People could argue that its not hugely different to what we do now.

  • 196 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:12 PM


    I agree with you about HBA keeping the ball too long or not releasing the pass, at least he gets into the position to do so though and it normally takes more than 1 person to dispossess him, what has become apparent over the past few weeks is that Gouffran is a bottler when it comes to 50 50 challenges and Sissoko just works hard with no end product!!

  • 197 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:13 PM

    Cheers mate,its nice to feel wanted lol.
    Gutti in Norwich to finalise his deal eh,First one out the door in the transfer window.

  • 198 davis_toons // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:13 PM

    Hatem Ben Arfa should play more minutes in this kind of gemes

  • 199 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    Our toon

    Would you drop goofy though? He has been getting goals for us.

  • 200 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:14 PM


    Cisse had Ba on one wing and HBA on the other wing, the team played attacking football!! That 2nd half to the season when we finished 5th is the best football we’ve played

  • 201 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:15 PM

    I can’t believe some folk are saying the goal was right to be chalked off. 5 live banging on about the Pardew rant rather than the goal incident…….UNREAL! City fans are the most arrogant supporters in the EPL I detest them so much. I really hope Karma bites them a new ass hole and the officials of the match are questioned. CHEATING for the top clubs.

  • 202 jazzyp // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    Cisse did ok,But at what cost to Ba ??
    If it came between a choice of either Ba or Cisse……I would take ba everyday of the week

  • 203 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    Rake // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    personally I don’t think sissoko and goofy have done well at all on the wings, I don’t like HBA out there too , but at least he makes chances

    goofy gets the odd goal, but very rarley creates any, sissoko is full of running, but messes up his final ball,

    debuchy whips nice balls in , as did young fergy

    remy puts a nice ball in too,

    id have both goofy and sissoko in the squad, some times starting, but not as wingers

    HBA looks bad because he is carrying out pardews instructions, shoot, get me a goal. you have 6 minutes to do it,, so us as fans don’t get the big picture, we see a greedy player,

  • 204 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    Our toon:

    Yeah sorry mate, i do totally agree im constantly moaning about the lack of attacking movement or fluidity in our game but at the end of the day im not envisiging MA or AP leaving in the near future. So i was just moaning about the players instead for a change :-p

    I just feel we always give the ball away too cheaply. Whether its one of the defenders hopefully punting it forwards or too many long shots (not just cabaye either but seven shots from a deep lying midfielder in one game is too much imo without any return.

    I need to apologise to whoever i was debating santons ability with last week too as his passing was god awful yesterday. Along with MYM and Sissoko.

    I totally agree we need players like benny and marv in the starting 11 we have a disgraceful lack of creativity in the team. Strikers cannot prosper in this system as no strikers are going to score every chance. Even luis suarez misses loads of chances. He just gets a lot more opportunities to make up for it.

  • 205 Rake // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    @ Out Toon.

    That’s whats is so very frustrating about Ben Arfa sometimes the pass into the Striker is there for everyone to see and he will spin the defnders cut off the pass and so on. I just think he obviously has a good relationship with Pardew why doesn’t Pardew say to him be more direct. Then again maybe he has?

    One of the last games Pardew was screaming for Gouffran and Sissoko to take on the full back but both seemed reluctant. Sissoko has shown he is hard to stop once he gets going but like you said end product is a problem.

  • 206 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:19 PM


    Gouffran looks tired mentality and physically, just my observation but he hasn’t really given us much going forward over this losing streak but has lost markers (the main reason he’s in the team) on numerous occasions by falling asleep, if Gouffran isn’t scoring he brings nothing as an attacking player, if he falls asleep letting FBs drift pass him then he isn’t bringing anything defensively!!

  • 207 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    Our toon

    Wasnt hba injured during cisses form spell? I am sure jonas was present more often than him. What i am saying is…. Ba is a striker who played on the wing, as goofy is doing now. Jonas worked hard but often lacked end product on the other wing. Ditto sissoko now. So really the type of service has not changed much.

  • 208 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:22 PM

    We should push to bring in the Luke and Seim De Jong. I think Cabella would be a wise move also. Unfortunately, Ashley is more interested in buying shares in Debenams.

  • 209 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:22 PM


    the fact you think BA and Jonas were on the wings that made cisse look good proves you don’t watch much football

    Ba was on the left, yes, Jonas was a DMC and HBA was on the right side,

    and just so you know, at that time cabaye and HBA created most of his goals, BA created nothing, nor did jonas

  • 210 John Tudor // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    @181 depends which way we are kicking

  • 211 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    Our toon.

    I hate to say it, but hba offers nothing defensively at any time, tired or not, and until he gets his head up and becomes less greedy, he will not create anything for other players going forward. So unless he scores a solo wondergoal, he offers as much as goofy to the team. I do agree goofy could do with a rest, and maybe we could start hba and give him a chance to prove he can be a team player, but how much of a chance can we take?

  • 212 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:28 PM


    your wrong again

    HBA offers more defensivly than goofy

    HBA is defending from the front, as all attackers do, and if given the chance he would chip in more goals and assists than both sissoko and goofy

  • 213 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:28 PM


    I wasnt saying it made him look good. You have missed the point. I am simply saying that cisse’s service has not changed much since then, yet he stopped scoring. He is fluffing his lines now and he wasnt then.

  • 214 Mister Tuff // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    Chris Hughton on Sky News confirming interest in Jonas -and that was it. So it does look as if he’s away but there is still JFK’s input which may or may not cock things up.

  • 215 lesh // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:30 PM


    You’ve chosen your words well when you siad that Kinnear is a windup merchant.

    Some of those less concerned with litigation, would call him a liar,

    Of course and like you, I woudn’t!

    However, we still await the opportunity of judging him on his signings! The jury’s still waiting to hear of anything to judge though.

    Given that Pardew’s publicly stated his desire for strengthening the squad this window (and let’s not forget the last one as well), let’s presume that Kinnear doesn’t deliver again and we end up below 10th as a result, would it be fair for Pardew to suffer the consequenses of the failure to better the target he’s been set?

    I think not and if anyone should carry the can back, it should be Joe (Chronic Inertia) Kinnear.

    Can anyone say what has he done that’s added any real value to the playing side of the business?

    Any ideas?

  • 216 pawl250 // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    Cabella Tweet is fake.

    Look at the last tweet he sent, its the exact number of retweets, same followers etc. and it was on the 10 Jan 14 which is not seen on photo.

    Remy Cabella @ RemyCabella10 January 10

    A good tonight! ? ? Should continue ???? ® ©
    Collapse Reply Retweet Favored More

    Bottom line fake, do not get your hopes up.

    As Jonas I have heard 3m, if true its great for us. He is 30, in the top 5 earners at the club currently and he is not even making the bench these days.

  • 217 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:31 PM



    I think you have been infected by what is now commonally know as pardewism , you only think about defend and contain,

    the game is about scoring goals and winning games, not every player should be thinking only defend,,

    lets get players who like to win, oooh shoot, we already have them, who is holding them back I wonder

  • 218 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:31 PM


    HBA and Ba were utilised, these 3 players ripped WBA apart at there place and followed that up by doing the same to Liverpool swansea and chelsea all with HBA in the team, he tracked back even less then!! The mentality then was attacking teams, now we sit back


    I understand what you mean but HBA will give you more in 5 mins as an attacking option than Sissoko and more recently Gouffran will in 180 mins of football, the time has come for changes, we have failed to score in last 3 prem games in a row

    The instructions to HBA at the minute are come off the bench and do something for us!!

  • 219 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:31 PM


    Totally agree regarding HBA and Gouff. I think the issue with using HBA as an impact sub like catchy said is that he is literally sent on to make things happen because the rest of the team seldom do. Therefore he takes it upon himself to try and make the impact to get himself back in the team which in turn makes him more greedy than normal.

    I genuinely thought pardew was getting the hang of dropping out of form players. But Sissoko, Gouff and Remy have been poor in our recent run. The defence and midfield have been pretty solid and ticked things over well but in the final third we are appalling.

    It would be nice to see it rotated but i dont envisage many changes for the next few games. We have a tough little run now tbh it will be interesting to see how we do.

  • 220 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM


    Hba offers more defensively than goofy? Well, there you go. The master has spoken. Making up things about his favorite players just make a false point. Hba is selfish, greedy and lazy, but this all goes against your anti-pardew agenda, and therefore you will become aggresive towards me because i have disagreed.

    Shouldn’t you be on a Cardiff blog worshipping your bezzie mate?

  • 221 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:35 PM


    no I think you are missing the point,, :)

    he had both cabaye and HBA making chances,

    now our whole team just shoots, not many look up for options,

    look at remys goals, most have cane from rebounds or he made himself,

    not many where made for him,,

    our team needs to go to the training ground,
    work on creating chances
    getting bodies into the box
    and set pieces,

    on paper we have a great squad, a great attacking squad, pardew makes it look bad

  • 222 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:35 PM


  • 223 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    oh ffs computer issues:

    I think what catchy was trying to say R

  • 224 lesh // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    Mister Tuff …. Joe can’t really fail can he? All he’s keen to do is lighten the payroll budget a bit and that shouldn’t be rocket science.

    Although as Kinnear’s not had any experience of successfully negotiating a transfer in years, he could end up letting Jonas go on a free rather than a loan?

    Judge him by his signings? I wouldn’t trust him to run a drinks stall in hell!

  • 225 pawl250 // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    People who have a go at Cisse.

    He has a confidence issue. Bottom line is he needs games and goals.

    If I were Pardew I would start playing him instead of Remy, who by the way is looking overhyped these days.

    His goals have dried up, he misses his chances and his overall game is not that great. His last good game was Man Utd!

    Would like to see Cisse get a fair crack of the whip. It may even give Remy a little lift.

    Next weeks game against West Ham we have to attack, personally I would go….

    ———————– Krul
    Mbiwa – Williamson – STaylor – Santon
    ———- Cabaye – Tiote – Sissoko
    Ben Arfa ——— Cisse ———- Gouffran

    I know it is harsh on Anita, he was great yesterday, but we need to attack a very exposed defence.

    STaylor gets the nod in centre, I do not rate him but he is better in the air than Mbiwa for the inevitable Carroll start.

  • 226 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    e: HBA being better defensively is that “attack is the best form of defense” and HBA is better in an attacking sense. In terms of tracking back and tackling Gouff is undeniably better however hes been off the pace and even defensively looks a bit off the pace atm so HBA why not? :-p

  • 227 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:39 PM


    How can i be missing the point? I made the point! If i am missing a point, it must be a different one that you have introduced to make you sound all-knowing. Arrogance. Enjoy south wales’ finest.

  • 228 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:39 PM


    who played up front with cisse ??

    that’s right, Ba and Jonas, ;)

    so I can only assume you make things up as you go along, to suit your argument

  • 229 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:40 PM


    Agree that we need to attack i would put remy out on the left instead of gouff and tell him and

  • 230 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:42 PM


    I made a comparison yesterday between us and Liverpool, Percy & Rodgers, Coutinho who is in the HBA mould, plays left wing for Liverpool….he rarely tracks back and if he does he just occupies an area however as an attacking player he flourishes, Rodgers has said he picks Coutinho for what he brings to them when attacking he didn’t buy him for his defensive work!! Gerard and Lucas mop up for Coutinho a lot they play the same system as us!! Now think to HBA and how we utilise him!!

    Liverpools attacking players aren’t rigid in the way they play, players rotate and have free roles!! We are very Rigid!! Liverpool were winning 3-2 and decided the time for sturridge had come rather than sitting back, they ended up winning 5-3, if that was us we would have lost by trying to hold what we had

    If we played possession football like Swansea Liverpool Southampton and Everton then pards would realise that the best way to defend is by having the ball

  • 231 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:43 PM


    I agree it is a confidence issue, rather than service. I always admitted Pardew mis handled the ba/cisse affair, which is where cisse first lost his form. Unfortunately there are few opportunities to give him the chance to regain it, in such a competitive league. How much game time do you risk on players who may not click?

  • 232 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:43 PM


    drop goofy and put hidarra on as a left winger, as when he has been subed onto the pitch, he spends most of his time up there

    give goofy and sissoko and remy a nice rest,

  • 233 cjtoon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:43 PM

    sorry lads keeps submitting without me clicking not sure why?


    Yes i would have remy for gouff and anita for sissoko. tell remy and benny to get to the byline and get as many balls into the box as possible. For cisse, cabaye and anita to work with. Plus wichever wide player isnt the one providing which would mean 5 players in or around the box plus support from santon and MYM tiote to do what he does best.

  • 234 pawl250 // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:44 PM


    A. Mine would be, Luuk De Jong. I think he is a player we could use. He holds the ball up excellent, he is dangerous in the air and he can shoot.

    Why has he not done great in Germany? Because he has low confidence, he clearly does not enjoy playing for the club as the manager looks to ignore him (source:- player himself) and simply put, he needs game time.

    My choice.

  • 235 Jail for Ashley // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    I thought the beauty of Remy was that he enjoyed playing on the left of a front three and unlike Ba was able to score goals there, has a front three of Remy, Cisse and HBA even been tried yet, theoretically we’re safe now with nothing to play for so time for Pardew to be a bit more imaginative.

  • 236 Ben3arfa // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    Jonas agreed terms with Norwich according to Lee Ryder

  • 237 stuart no9 // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    Panic over . At last the reason why no new signings this January . Forget buying. Striker or a CB . Forget about a speedy skillfull winger , forget about a replacement for cabs if he slings his hook , coz Ashley , with the money he got from the tv rights and all the cash he could be splashing out on building our beloved club , and with all the money some of you are giving the man to watch – mainly Shite has just bought shares in debenhams . Whoopee now instead of watching our team improve , you will be able to go into any debs and buy the high quality crap , instead of looking all over the world for it . C’mon lads , who needs football any way ?

  • 238 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:48 PM


    your missing the point again

    cisse is not really out of form is he ?

    if he is in a team that creates lots of chances for him and he keeps missing them then yes he is out of form,

    he is in a team that creates nothing for him, so how can form be an issue ?

    get the guy in the team, make him chances, and he will score goals,

  • 239 catchy in norway // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:49 PM


    tom ince

    a real winger

  • 240 pawl250 // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    I would have

    Ben Arfa – Cisse – Remy

    Infact Remy scored goals on the left to accommodate Shola not too long ago.

    I would not drop Sissoko though, personally I feel he had a great game yesterday. Did what was needed, set up Remy who fluffed his chance moving into defenders.

    Anita is a good player, but Sissoko, Tiote, Cabaye has power, pace. Unlike Anita, Tiote, Cabaye.

  • 241 El Sleeve // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    u do feel if city had had that goal chalked off they would be talking about it constantly, but instead talking about pards foul mouth, which every manager has

    bias in the extreme. should be focussing on yet another wrong decision.

    well transfer, thats why u limit it to two challenges, to limit the interuptions in the game. and then also the chllenge could only be made once the ball is out of play, preventing the deliberate stop of a counter attack you speak of.

  • 242 shearer and the duchess // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    Mr Sage

    By Jove you’re a mighty nice chappy but the point was lost on you about the reasons Mr Kinnear was brought in.

    As Pardew stated he wanted a football man instead of a casino owner.

    He wasn’t expecting Mr Ashley to bring in Mr Kinnear who is more obstructive than Lambias. Mr Kinnear, the rotter, is doing Mr Ashley’s dirty work.

    Mr Bambams sums it up nicely. Mr Bambams seems a real spunk. Just the feisty guy that we need on here.

  • 243 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:54 PM


    Agreed mate the time for attacking changes has come and the 3 pronged forwards you mention are perfect as choices for next game!! I have a feeling Shola may get the nod though if fit!!


    Realistic target would be Benteke offer £15m plus Shola and Obertan, Luuk de Jong is poor and no different to what we already have

    Cisse scored against Stoke but didn’t play in the next game then played against Cardiff scored and back on bench again, how’s that for a confidence boost, meanwhile Remy has 1 goal in 10 games but still gets the nod ahead of him, as does Shola who hasn’t scored a prem goal in over a year

  • 244 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    To various

    I just think that, if you are going to have a luxury player on the pitch then out wide is not the best place. There are far to many teams who can exploit that these days.

  • 245 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:56 PM

    Cisse is utterly out of form.

  • 246 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:58 PM


    cisse is out of form, plenty chances last year he messed up and when not scoring doesn’t have any other aspect to his game that makes him worth playing.

    torres isn’t scoring for chelsea but he creates and does other things so can afford to persist, we can’t with cisse, he’s woeful.

  • 247 Tsunki // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    Errrghhh it gets tiring after a while.

  • 248 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:58 PM


    i see why ashley brought him in, i am merely saying it is of no benefit to the club, just to ashley

  • 249 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Cisse was never going to carry on scoring world class goals that was always going to stop. The lad does not offer anything else and is actually appalling in front of goal when he has time to think. We are desperate for a Michu type player.

  • 250 Ancientcoptic // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Ben Arfa lazy?

    The guy that furiously runs down the channels to beat players, using his turn of pace to go past players, and launching strikes like cruise missiles?

    Er, what?

  • 251 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:01 PM


    Where would you play luxury players then? Rodgers plays Coutinho on the LW, Rijkaard played Ronaldinho on the LW (not comparing HBA to him) Rijkaard said he was the laziest player he has ever worked with, but as a team he did less damage when losing the ball from LW area

    To achieve or have success if football we need graft and luxury one without the other leads to nothing

  • 252 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    Catchy as a professional footballer Cisse should be able to control a ball that is played into him yet he cant even manage that he is totally shambolic.

  • 253 Tsunki // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    So how’s the €32 m bid from Arsenal for Cabaye doing?

  • 254 Nufc-83 // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:03 PM

    HBA imo should be playing and allowed the freedom to attack. We are crying out for a cf who can hold the ball up and an out and out left winger. Then i would play the mid/st as follows:

    Remy New Cf
    New LW Cabaye tiote HBA

  • 255 Markaccus // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Our toon

    Central. Liverpool have better left backs than us. Santon is not a fb, i don’t care what he says. Haidara and dummet are still inexperienced.

    Ronaldo played in a barcelona side, we just cant use that as any sort of comparison :D

  • 256 shearer and the duchess // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    @Mr Sage

    But Mr Ashley is the club, he doesn’t want to spend money and therefore it’s Mr Ashley who is no use to the club. It’s got nothing to do with Mr Kinnear. He’s just following his instructions.

    Mr Ashley is a sluggo

  • 257 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Nufc 83

    Cisse is in his prime but is currently going through his worst spell in football!! Also he plays at top level football and has done throughout his career, he’s had no issues scoring for Senegal during his baron spell for us

  • 258 Ancientcoptic // Jan 13, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    If you want attacking midfielders to track back and defend, then realistically, what are you saying is, you don’t want attacking midfielders in the team.

  • 259 Roger // Jan 14, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    As a german supporter and member of the club i can
    say Mr Kinnear your are the nail to my coffin.
    The team is better than before. You are an old crazy man, go to hell, better todayhan tomorrow.
    Our first team is the only team we had.
    If any of our first team players are injured, we have nothing. What we need, is one or two good strikers.
    When Cisse come in he made goals, now he made
    really nothing for us, the same problem i can see
    is Remy, he made goals in a few matches and now,
    also nothing, see sunday against Manchester City.
    Ben Arfa is a good player, but he love`s himself on the
    bench, he is not a teamplayer.
    There are so many good strikers on the market, and
    you Mr Kinnear, became money for doing nothing,
    nothing for the club, nothing for the fans.
    And again fans all over the world, don?t by in
    Ashley`s shops. He is the second nail to the coffin
    of Newcastle. Millions and millions, but not only
    one or two or ten to make Newcastle better.

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