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Referee Jones’ Huge Blunder – Why No Video Replays?

8:07 am, Monday, January 13th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 11 Comments

It’s being reported that TV microphones picked up the conversation  between the referee Mike Jones and the linesman discussing the Tiote goal yesterday, and referee Mike Jones told the linesman he thought the ball had touched Yoan Gouffran and therefore disallowed it.

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Cheick Tiote in action yesterday

And of course if that was the case Yoan would have been offside, but TV replays showed that Yoan got out of the way, and the ball didn’t touch him at all.

The referee  made a huge blunder seen by TV viewers around the world, and when you get decisions made by the officials like this – which viewers know are wrong – because they see video replays of it immediately – why couldn’t the officials be allowed to watch the video replays themselves before finally making the decision?

In fact the only two people who thought it was a goal yesterday was Manchester City manager Pellegrini, who has to improve his English because you couldn’t make out what he was saying after the game – and Joe Hart.

And apparently Joe Hart said after the game that he was prevented by Yoan Gouffran from diving for the ball.

That’s nonsense as the TV replays showed two things – one was that Yoan was not in the way, and the second was the ball was in the back of the net before Joe could react.

In the 2010 World Cup we had the strange site of the ball from Frank Lampard being three feet over the line in the game against Germany, and the officials not allowing the goal, even though the TV screens at the ground kept showing the video replay with the ball three feet over the line. :(

Video replays are used in USA sports all the time, especially American football, and there are so many blunders being made by the officials these days in the Premier League, with apparently no accountability.

Sooner or later video replays have to be introduced – there’s no getting away from it.

The Premier League is becoming just too big, and while goal-line technology has come in and we now know when the ball is over the line, Jones’ decision yesterday and offside in general are still areas of the game where mistakes continue to be made.

How often do you see a linemen let the play go on when the player is level with the defender?

And the offside rule about when a player is active or not is purely subjective,  and referees have different interpretations of the rule.

We are interested to see if we hear anything at all from anybody in an official capacity, to say that the Tiote goal yesterday should have stood.

But there’s no chance of that of course.

Comments welcome.

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11 responses so far ↓

  • 1 bills-son // Jan 13, 2014 at 8:11 AM

    TS,

    M’Biwa’s tackle was bad and it wax a sending off imo.

    But, two wrongs don’t make a right and it now appears the ref lied to Pardew about his reason for disallowing the goal. Lying, not disallowing the goal, is now the major issue imo.

  • 2 shearer and the duchess // Jan 13, 2014 at 8:12 AM

    I’ve just read the Chronicles interpretation of the spat between Mr Pardew & Mr Pellegrini.

    Mr Pardew, ” Hoo you f@ckin old c@nt, keep your eyes off Faye Downey! I’m working on her!”

    Mr Pellegrini, ” Pardsy you twat! We’re too old. It’s Sami Nasri who’s doing her! How’s about taking Nasri out and we can share her!”

    Mr Pardew, ” Good shout Pelly! Mbwia! Take that little c@nt Nasri out!”

    Those two rotters are real ladies men. I hope Miss Downsy sees through the two cads.

  • 3 Transfer Sage // Jan 13, 2014 at 8:15 AM

    bills

    fair enough, i’ve just seen two replays and didn’t think it was that bad, but can see why man city were annoyed and it could have been a red.

    On Ed’s comments on video replays. All sports as far as I am aware only use video replays when there is a natural stoppage in a game. Tennis for line calls, cricket for lbw/caught behind/run out, rugby for try over the line or not…football for goal line (instant without play stopped).

    I don’t see how they can be brought into the game without a lot of unnatural stoppages in the game and a ruined flow to it. If the refs call he will stop it all the time to be safe not sorry, if the managers/players call it could be tactical to stop counter attacks. I just don’t see how it would work.

  • 4 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2014 at 8:18 AM

    Transfer – previous thread
    From the Gallowgate it looked a foul but it didn’t look malicious. yeah a booking but no red from where I viewed it from. but it seems to becoming the talking point on radio this morning
    Shitty supporters were bleating on about three of our players should of been sent off yet Zabletta and Fernandinho were lucky not to get second yellows.

    And our supporters were shit for booing Nasri when he was being carried off.
    The booing was not at Nasri but the mercenary Milner who was about to come on

  • 5 banjax // Jan 13, 2014 at 8:20 AM

    It’s amazing how the FA can look back at an incident on VT and convict a player or a manager, but when a referee or linesman drops a clanger it’s different. Newcastle were robbed of a spectacular goal from Tiote which could have turned the game for us. The referee also missed a very bad challenge from Mbia and I bet the FA will be looking at that again ! Shocking double standards !

  • 6 firebug666 // Jan 13, 2014 at 8:23 AM

    Mike Jones was terrible all day yesterday, I wonder if he managed to get to the bookies before closing time to collect his extra wages.

  • 7 Jeff from Benwell // Jan 13, 2014 at 8:31 AM

    S and the D
    There is something wrong with your spark plugs.
    I heard the exchange, Pelligrini asked AP where he got his really cool clear lens glasses.
    Pardew replied that if Pelligrini wore them he would
    “Look like a f***king old c@nt”
    Fair comment if you ask me like.

    And in other news

    Sports Direct have just paid 45 million squid for 57 million Debenhams share.
    Every time Ashley has bought into a company up to now he has always bought a player or two.
    He must think while he’s at the cashpoint “as I’m getting money out anyway I’ll get enough for NUFC”
    it saves on charges you know.

  • 8 bills-son // Jan 13, 2014 at 8:36 AM

    Interviewed after the match Pardew said he hadn’t really got an answer from the ref as to why the goal was disallowed and he assumed it was for a “small technicality”.

    That reinforces my view that the ref thought the ball had hit Gouffran, knew it definitely hadn’t after watching the video and was trying to protect himself against further criticism.

    If he had just admitted he got it wrong he’d have got stick but no comeback.

    There might be some comeback for the ref now. It will be interesting to hear what Pardew has to say when he finds out about the ref’s discussion with the linesman.

  • 9 Jeff from Benwell // Jan 13, 2014 at 8:40 AM

    It’s the same ref that allowed the famous Sunderland beach ball goal which got him demoted to the fizzy pop league for half a season.
    Also Sissoko chinned him the other week.
    Perhaps a bit of payback?

  • 10 goalseeker // Jan 13, 2014 at 8:43 AM

    A reply tp Transfer Sage following your aurgument the game had stopped, the ball was in the net goal or no goal so it was an ideal opportunity for a video replay in close up to be shown to the officials, who must accept that they are not infallible in a fast moving game. Joe Hart needs to change his argument although he may think the Gouf stopped him from diving by the time he thought about diving the ball was in the back of the net. No doubt the video panel will review that tackle and take remedial action as the offending player was wearing Black & White as far as the goal is concerned they will ignore as the referees believe they are God and the FA confirms that belief. Jones had a clear view and should tell that the ball did not deviate as if it had hit someone even slightly at that speed it would have deviated substantially, the linesman would not have been able to see that. Jones made some howling mistakes against both teams but will merrily sail along collecting his blood money week after week.

  • 11 El Sleeve // Jan 13, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    2 things about the tiote “goal”

    1. according to the new rule, the goal should of stood. according to the spirit of the game, even tho he didn’t touch it or hinder harts vision, he was offside. but the ref needs to interpret it using the letter of the law

    2. the solution: football is a flowing sport, unlike rugby, cricket, tennis or american football which is all very stop start. you cannot have the players, fans and managers questioning every single decision. indeed the refs still need to feel valued and have a bit of respect and integrity since they are only human after all.
    so, with all that in mind, you shift the onus away from the refs mistakes and onto the players honesty. you do this by allowing 2 challenges per team, per game where the decision is referred up to the video ref in the stands, away from the touchline and 4th official. that way the players have to become more honest, the ref still have majority control of decisions and the flow of the game is preserved.
    the clock can also be stopped during referral.

    will any of this happen? cause it won’t. the FA and FIFA are too stuck on the preserving the status quo for i fear very corrupt reasons keeping them this way.




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