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Newcastle Must Play With Intensity At West Ham

10:39 am, Thursday, January 16th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 84 Comments

Newcastle have now lost four games in a row, and two of those defeats were against the Premier League top two sides at the moment – Arsenal and Manchester City – and we were a little unlucky not take something out of both those games.

Andy Carroll

Andy Carroll – could start for Hammers on Saturday

And we were beaten at West Brom, but only after Mathieu Debuchy got himself sent off in the second half, when we were pressing well and maybe could have come away with something from the game – but we didn’t.

And we were beaten in the FA Cup at the first attempt at home to Cardiff City – and that performances was simply unacceptable.

But in our next three games at West Ham and Norwich, followed by a home game against Sunderland, we should be favored to win in each of the games against three teams in the bottom five of the Premier League at the moment.

Whether Newcastle can press on and keep challenging for a top eight or even a top six place this season, will depend on Newcastle doing well against these weaker sides in the Premier League.

It would be very nice to get a win on Saturday, in a game where it appears that former striker Andy Carroll will get his first start of the season, after finally recovering from another lengthy injury.

Newcastle don’t usually play at their best against the weaker sides but we do well against the top sides, although we took nothing out of the recent home games with the Gunners and City.

We must play with the same intensity at Upton Park on Saturday, as did last weekend, if we are to get the needed 3 points against the Hammers.

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  • 1 cjtoon // Jan 16, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    The only everton players I think we would have in our first 11 are Baines (santon), Lukaku (even though he isnt theirs), Mirallas (sissoko RW), Barkley (Cabaye (english with more potential)), Jagielka (willo) and coleman is on par with debuchy but both have had excellent seasons.

  • 2 Our Toon // Jan 16, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    REPOST

    TDS

    Is that your answer “one swallow doesn’t make a summer” yet you bang on about Percy winning manager of the year and finishing 5th highest ever achievement!!

    I ask again the 3 young mangers I mentioned was a direct response to your question, why have you avoided my question?

    Why do you think Percy is a better manager than Pochettino, Poyet and Laudrup? I want reasons not sidestepping answers like a politician

  • 3 magpiemover // Jan 16, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    i havent comented for a while but i do feel players have lose form under pardew negative tactics , and i all so think we need a manager to take us on to the next level we have the players with the wrong type of manager , and that is my opinion ,

  • 4 Slank // Jan 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM

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    Catchy @ 7

    Poyet achieved nothing at Brighton and the jury is still out at Sunderland.

    There is quite a difference between a manager whose team play nice football and a manager who wins trophies on a regular basis. The only manager in the Premiership to have done that is Wenger but he has had quite a few lean years of late.

    Were the Chelsea fans downhearted when their team won trophy after trophy because their team were boring? Likewise, did the Arsenal fans of old moan about always winning one nil when they swept the board?

    We are a mid table team and as such will employ a manager that is appropriate for that mid table position. Truly top managers go to truly top teams unless you come from the same country as the previous manager.

    All the pundits say that managing the owner/chairman by the manager is as important as managing the team. So far Pardew has done a good job at both.

  • 5 magpiemover // Jan 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    i all so think a good manager will get the best out of cisse , and if he leaves i think us as a club will regret letting him leave , to many players lose form uner pardew stewardship , ben arfa marv and all of them are class players , and pardew can not get the best out of players

  • 6 cjtoon // Jan 16, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    ok look at it this way>

    Everton Toon

    1. Howard 1. Krul
    2.Coleman 2. Debuchy
    3.Baines 3. Santon
    4.Distan 4. MYM
    5.Jagielka 5. Colo
    6.Barry 6. Tiote
    7.Mirallas 7. Ben Arfa
    8.Barkley 8. Cabaye
    9.Lukaku 9. Remy
    10.Mccarthy 10. Sissoko
    11.Pienaar 11. gouffran

    Subs

    1. Joel 1.Elliott
    2. stones 2. Saylor/willo
    3. osman 3. Haidara
    4. oviedo 4. Anita
    5. Jelavic 5. Cisse
    6. Naismith 6. Marveaux
    7. Delofeu 7. Sameobi

    In reality they are pretty even

  • 7 jimmysmith // Jan 16, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Hope AC plays. He is most fuggen excellent, and it would add a large chunk of niggle. Which is always fun, particularly considering he’ll be up against Willo and Tayls. No shrinking violets themselves.

  • 8 jayphoto // Jan 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    Think pardews done ok! If i owned the club he wouldn’t be my first choice of manager and he is a bit pragmatic but at the moment he deserves to keep his job! If we lose to west Ham and then lose to sunderland that will be 6 defeats in a row though and should that happen thats sacking form….

  • 9 pottsclock // Jan 16, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Wasn’t there a rumour a few years ago that STaylor and Carroll had a training ground bust up where Carroll smacked him?
    Could be fireworks in this match…

  • 10 Slank // Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    2Our Toon

    To me Pardew, Pochettino, Poyet and Laudrup are all the same in that they haven’t won anything in the Premier League but accept that the last three haven’t had time enough to demonstrate their capabilities but how long was it before Fergie won his first trophy?

  • 11 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Slank

    If say poyet did a good bit at Brighton. They aren’t a good enough team to win things but he had them playing good football to watch at getting in and around the play offs.

    He has Sunderland leading a semi final and after some time settling in to a new style they are hard to beat but try to play good football too.

    As for pardew having a good relationship with Ashley…I think anyone would if they just bent over and took whatever he gave. For me it’s not a good relationship as too one sided and pardew doesn’t get what he wants (asked for a big commanding CB and striker for 2 years and not got one).

    TDS

    As for one swallow not making a summer..both laudrup and pochettino are young and have plenty more summers ahead, I’d rather have one swallow on my summer than none which pardew has.

  • 12 jayphoto // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Sad thing is in the last 30 years, Pardew is probably our 3rd best manager and is in the top 5 for the football played! The best attacking football ive seen was under Ardiles and we lost every game!
    Id take pardew over mcfaul, ardiles, cox, dalglish, souness, gullit, roeder and hughton! Not for his personality, his lack of class sometimes is infuriating but hes a better manager!

  • 13 magpiemover // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    laudrup won a a cup already lol

  • 14 JP...from The Rock // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    We really are a joke club aren’t we?

    With Mike Ashley now at the helm we lack ambition.

    With Freddie Shepherd at the helm we were over-ambitious and signing the wrong players at the wrong prices.

    We never seem to get the balance right and this is sooooooo frustrating for every Newcastle fan.

    We’ve had to put up with so much shite on a monthly basis, that if it were turned into a TV series it would be one of the most successful in history with so many twists and turns.

    I am just fed up with it all. I want success now or very bloody soon. We are on the brink of having an excellent team if we only had that extra bit of ambition to sign the quality players we lack in key positions.

    We need wingers, that’s been obvious ever since Solano and Robert left-and that was AGES AGO!

    We seriously lack firepower upfront and that has been evident before Shearer even left!!

    No way in hell can we call the pathetic Strolla a striker ffs!

    Remy is not ours and we are yet to replace Ba and Best!

    If we were to sign only three players now or in the summer we would dramatically change our fortunes for the better.

    Our chances of silverware would multiply as we would have a fully functional and balanced team at last.

    Later in the future we could then sign just one more attacking midfield player to create more chances and be of more of a goal threat though the centre, and to not only depend on Cabaye for that creative spark. And a CB to replace the soon departing Coloccini.

    It’s so simple to achieve success with the solid foundation we have now in place, all we need is ambition.

    Before we had too many weak and poor players mixed in with some talent.

    Now we have a very talented squad lacking that little bit of depth that all successful clubs have.

    I just wish we sort it soon as this club is becoming a drag, full of false dawns, isn’t it about time this sleeping giant WOKE UP!?

  • 15 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    I’m also not naive enough to think if we go for the next laudrup, pochettino we could get a dud.

    But at some point we will have to replace pardew, even if it’s 20 years when he retires, so we need to ‘gamble’ at some point.

  • 16 Slank // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    TS

    How many relationships are not one-sided between an employee and the owner of any organisation?

    Owners of football clubs hold all the cards and pull all the strings unless you are SAF or Arsene Wenger. These two are the only ones I can think of where the relationship was perhaps different.

  • 17 Our Toon // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Slank

    Here’s some facts for you Gus Poyet mate, he was Wise’s no 2 at Leeds but was the brains behind the teams impressive performances, they were flying Hugh when he left and then dropped down the table!! He took over a Brighton team fighting relegation in league 1, they stayed up that season and won the league the following year!! Brighton then finished in play offs in first season in championship!! They were one of the faves to go down!! He’s now come in at the scum who were 8 pts adrift and bottom, to now being 2-1 up in a semi final, 2nd from bottom and couple of pts off getting away from relegation!! Not bad eh

    Laudrup as I’ve already said has won more than Percy has in his entire career, the guy is tipped as being a future Barcelona manager, Pochettino has managed to take a relegation threatened Southampton who are now 1 place behind us both have had limited time as managers

    Laudrup has played Percy 3 times and beat him on all 3 occasions, Poyet has played Percy 3 times and beat him 3 times

    Percy toon over us as mid table team, we are still in the same place!! Fergie won things at Aberdeen, Percy has never won anything apart from Johnston paint trophy for league 1 or summit!!!

  • 18 Belfast // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    I see Hull are able to spend 13 million odds on two strikers. Two strikers that we could have done with tbh

  • 19 Rotonda heights // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    slank

    ignorance in your case is most definitely not bliss

    Poyet did well at Leeds

    Brighton were bottom of the league when Poyet went there, he kept them up, got them promoted the next season and just missed out on the play-offs.

    When Poyet went to Sunderland they were 8 points adrift!!

    Poyet has had a very short managerial career.

    pardew has won nothing in nearly 20 years!!!

    More importantly, as I keep saying, Poyet, Pochettino and Laudrup all play football, not just mind numbing ” containment ”.

  • 20 jimBOB // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    I think if Pards won the Leauge people would still want him sacked. I think he has done OK,

  • 21 Rotonda heights // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    in the play-offs

  • 22 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    slank

    I do accept the owner rules most of the time. But the key from any job is to get the best deal to help yourself. For me (I may be wrong as we don’t know privately) I just think Pardew seems to be too soft a touch and not push for the players he wants.

    He wanted a big CF so why did we get remy, a big strong CB and we get mbiwa…good players but not what he wanted.

    To me Pardew seemed to know that he signed up as an out of work league 1 manager and knew fine well he wouldn’t, and still wouldn’t in my opinion, get a job as big as Newcastle ever again, and Ashley knows this too…therefore Pardew does exactly what he is told, won’t push enough for people he wants.

    It’s just my opinion, no real facts to back it up, other than we havent got players he has asked for.

  • 23 Rotonda heights // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    That word ” ok ” again. OK means mediocre, could do better, nothing special etc etc

    Pardew has done ok if you have very low expectations.

  • 24 Rotonda heights // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    JIMBOB

    Pardew win the league

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • 25 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    if people say pardew is average, neither great not poor…seems to be the consensus of those who support him. (correct me if i’m wrong). He just doesn’t suit the team with his style of football.

    You could have an average rally driver and but him in a formula one car, would drive it but an average formula one driver would get more from the car.

    Neither would win the championship, but there would be a few places difference and with a bit of luck on their side one might place or win the odd race (in our terms a cup)

  • 26 Our Toon // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    Mourinho is touting Pochettino as future Real Madrid manager and has come out and said he’s spoken to Madrid about him!!

    JP from the rock

    I think Santon to Arsenal has legs, he’s a we get type of player!! We’ve conceded more goals from Debuchys side of the pitch than we have from santons, we love a scapegoat and santon gets unfair stick on here!! Normally like to read your contributions but remember Wenger did buy Andre Santos and Nacho Monreal as left backs, both are shocking defensively

  • 27 pottsclock // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    I think this is pretty good debate on managers and like most things, time will tell and that time will be at the end of the season and at that point I’ll make my view on who is the better manager – there is evidence both ways.
    Poyet’s replacement, for example, has Brighton in pretty much the same position as they were last season and without a couple of key loanees. However, Poyet did have them playing more attractive football.
    Pochettino has done very well at Southampton but has not had one full season there yet…and it looks like he won’t get one. Too soon to judge for these two for me.
    I’d have Martinez and probably Laudrup over Pardew though. Both have one things with teams of limited resources.

  • 28 pottsclock // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    *won* nor *one*

  • 29 JP...from The Rock // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    The manager is at fault to a degree, but I can’t see Poyet or Laudrup or any manager do much better than fifth under this regime.

    Al this talk is pointless if we keep having an owner that won’t supply this club with what it needs- players that balance the team, and our formation.

    Proper wingers to cross the ball in the area regularly.

    Strikers to get on the end of the crosses.

    We have neither. Only Cisse is our main striker and he’s bang out of form and confidence and can you blame him? Where is the service?

    Now we have Remy (on loan!) and he is being deployed as an out an out striker upfront on his own? With no wingers supplying the balls to him.

    It really does beggar belief.

    What the hell are we playing at?

    Ashley get your head out your ass and gives us the players we need ffs!

  • 30 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:22 AM

    potts

    it is a good debate, peopel from both sides giving examples and thoughts to back up their arguments for the most part

    I’d also say that bringing signings into the equation isn’t always fair in judging….pardew has little say, AVB at spurs had little say…no idea who signs players at swansea, southampton, brightin etc

  • 31 BuckLuck // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    TS @ 15
    Good point. Pardew must be replaced at one point, so why not now?

    Rotonda heights @ 19
    I completely agree. Pardew have tried for 20 years without doing anything special. He is a manager for a club that’s not interested in growing or evolving.

    Keeping Pardew is the same as agreeing that we have a top 10 club at best. Of course there are a lot of managers out there that could do better with our attacking players. A lot.

  • 32 cjtoon // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    I think for all of the people that seem content with Pardew to be manager we should get a scale of how they would rate our perfomances to watch as a visual stimulus. On a scale of:

    1. Mind Numbing
    2.Might have nodded off a couple of times
    3. Quite a negative experience
    4. Not great to watch but picked up a result
    5. A game of two halves
    6. O.K to watch
    7. solid enjoyable 90 minutes of viewing
    8. created considerable excitement
    9. Consistently edge of seat
    10. Excellent Positive experience

    Personally i have been option 4. for most of this season however I have reignited my feelings for Pardew from last season and im now firmly back in option 1.

    What about everyone else

  • 33 jimBOB // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    I dont think he could win the league with any team, but we have to start realising he isnt going anywhere, yes he is OK, if I had come out and said he is Awsome I would have been met with Great comments. and im a lover not a fighter.

    all im saying is, his name was being sang week in week out when we where winning, we lose a few games and everyone wants him gone again (granted there are fans that have wanted that for a while)

    we could get one of those other managers in, what happens when the 11 players on the pitch go back to miss placed passes and stupid red cards commiting stupid acts to give away free kicks and penaltys, in dangerous area’s, GET THEM OUT ASWELL?

    yes Poyet and Laudraup are looking like they will amount to great things, better things than pardew, but the fact still remains that he is Our manager, so lets just get behind him and see what he can do.

  • 34 mag // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    It’s the battle of the halfwits Pardew and Big Sam, English football’s nearly men, so it should be a classic example of how not to play football.

  • 35 Our Toon // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    TS

    Don’t forget mate that this notion of having players signed for you as manager is only alien to English managers, everywhere else in world football, a manager manages the team and DF signs players!!

  • 36 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    cj

    somewhere between 4 and 6 with 4 being the majority of games.

    I do however say also point 9, i am always on the edge of my seat. We don’t kill teams off so even when winning or playing badly we either hang on which is exciting (for a different reason) or when losing we have players capable of something special…so also edge of seat.

  • 37 JP...from The Rock // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Our Toon – Glad to hear you read my posts. Honestly if Arsenal do take Santon from us he’ll be doing us a favour I am afraid.

    Santon is too one dimensional, too predictable and wonders off in games. He leaves us exposed time after time and offers opposing players too much space at times to cross in the ball into our box.

    He’s good on the tackle and I like it when he bombs forward but you never see him sprinting back to get into his position as Debuchy does. Compare the two and you can see Santon’s flaws a mile away. Debuchy busts a nut to track back if he goes forward and that’s what you’d expect of a defender.

    Also Santon is a terrible crosser of the ball and ‘always’ has to cut back onto his right foot, that most of the time costs a second or two of our attacking momentum. Opposing defenders know this trait of his too and are easily taking the ball of him before he crosses.

    Last season he was easily our best player and I really thought it was going to be a steady rise in performances from him then on, but sadly I have been let down and he’s gone back to his early displays of not tracking back etc.

  • 38 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    our toon

    of course, manager has some input but not total control. That’s why I think there are plenty who’d work under Ashley. How often in spain do you see a team decide to sell 2/3 top players and just say pick their replacement from the academy. At least with Ashley, for all his transfer faults, we have a reasonable squad of players.

    jimbob

    during the game i’m 100% behind pardew and every player on the pitch for us….just hear is the time to discuss change or what we’d like to change/remain

  • 39 jimBOB // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    CJ

    Against some of the top teams I would say 8

    with me dropping back to 4-6 for teams we should be getting results against.

    1 – against the scum though.

  • 40 jimBOB // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    TS

    Fair play mate

  • 41 mindshaft // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    Think I’d have to agree Pards is an average manager and the players we have would suit a more attacking style that we would play under a manager such as Pochettino, Laudrup, Martinez etc
    However in my view we don’t have the squad to challenge for a top four spot, and the likes of Citeh, Arse, Chelski, Spuds and Bindippers will continually invest more than we could ever dream of under Ashley
    They seem happy to have the odd failure and get rid of them asap for decent money then reinvest in next player
    Everton are overachieving this season with the squad they have and I imagine next season may prove harder for them to sustain ( especially given loan players will be gone)

  • 42 pottsclock // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    TS
    Agreed. For example, Pochettino has been well backed by the chairman so far, unlike Pardew. That looks like it is going to stop and he’s going to have to manage on limited resources – so likely to leave. Fair enough, but difficult to judge him then.
    On players and loans in particular – one player in the right position can make a massive difference so comparing overall teams is also not straightforward. How many times have we seen clubs not reach the next level or get relegated because they don’t have a top class striker?
    CJ
    Do you really think we were that bad against Citeh?

  • 43 Our Toon // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    One thing I’ve noticed is that the staunch supporters of Percy say that he’s doing ok!!! Ok? I’d rather have someone doing ok but playing attacking and enjoyable football percy hasn’t been the answer for some time!! Give Percy 2 games in a week and he struggles big time!!

    48 games in a year to today and we’ve won 6 games by more than 1 goal!! Take Stoke out of that with 9 men and to me that’s just not good enough, no wonder we drop so many pts we can’t finish teams off

  • 44 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    jimbob

    no problem…likewise i don’t mind anyone who backs pardew/ashley as long as they have a reasonable reason, of which there are some….each to their own i say.

    mindshaft

    That’s why I don’t see why we can’t gamble on a decent striker, like liverpool did with 20mil for suarez. It would be good to go for those levels of players, just one to boost the team and carry us forward. At the end of the day they have such a reputation that even if they fail you’d get a good chunk of money back.

  • 45 cjtoon // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    TS:

    Thats a fairly decent assessment i think. I am perhaps being a little harsh but Im just so bored of watching us. I just want to watch some good football its really depressing. When the results are going O.K you can sort of accept the poor standard of our play but when you are losing its too much. I jokingly said I wonder what would happen if we went on a losing streak and it culminated in losing the derby again which is looking more realsitic than ever at the moment. Surely questions would be asked of pardew if that were to become reality

  • 46 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    potts

    that’s the key for me…you can get bargains all around the pitch but upfront you always need to make sure you have 1 goal scorer if you want to survive (Ba did that for us last year until he left) and 2 goal scorers to push on for champions league/top 6 area…then 3 for the title.

    Not always the case but usually that’s a pattern.

  • 47 Spoof // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    Pochettino may well prove to be a good manager, but then again he may flop, just because Mourinho has sounded him out for the Madrid job doesn’t mean that he will be a great manager, Mourinho is human and he is capable of getting things wrong, I could be wrong but did he not say that Davide Santon could be the new Maldini, now thats a glowing refererenee but he is wrong, Santon is average at best and if Cabaye is valued at £20m and Arsenal are prepared to offer £30m for the pair then valuing Santon at £10m, I would snap their hands off.

  • 48 mag // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    Only one goal scored in our last four matches and three of them matches were at home disgraceful Pardew wants sacking! Wimped out the FA cup again under this loser and his reluctance to rotate the squad so the season is basically over in terms of winning anything significant.

  • 49 Our Toon // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    JP

    I agree with you mate but Haidara isn’t as good as most seem to believe he is, santon was very good last season but this season he’s not really kicked on…..22 or 23 though

    TS – I agree with most of what you say mate foreign managers are used to MA type of owners

  • 50 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    cj

    it’s a difficult one….look at west ham. They hate allerdyce’s style but if they won all 38 games 1-0 they’d not complain.

    There is a balance fans can accept between points and style of play.

    For me ours isn’t right, we get a good amount of wins but in my view not only would a more positive style be more entertaining it would also get us more points…win win situation for me.

    I may be wrong of course, no way to know as can’t play each game twice in conflicting styles, just think our defensive approach costs us more points than an attacking one would.

  • 51 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    our toon

    i don’t like MA, mainly for how he treats us, but if you put the bloke in a spanish club (outside the top 2/3) nobody would complain, he’s similar to that type.

  • 52 cjtoon // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    jimBOB:

    Thats fair enough Its bizarre we play so badly against the teams we should be more competitive against. It must be a hard one to explain to be honest.

    pottsclock:

    No i dont think the city perfomance was that bad but until the tiote goal we were awful. After that the adrenaline kicked in we felt aggrieved and got fired up. At the end of the day we lost 2-0. I dont think it was a bad performance but i didnt think it was great either. Fairly exciting end to end stuff but city carved us open quite a few times. We had predominantly speculative efforts.

    My main issue is i generally dont actually enjoy watching us play. We have a lot of habits that infuriate me both as a team and individuals. As a team we drop to deep and sit back on leads, We counter attack at a terrible tempo with very little purpose, we do not close down as a unit very well sometimes but other times we are really good at it? Individually we have two right footers on the left which is annoying. We have remy as a lone striker with no service so he is feeding off scraps, sissoko is not a RW so we need to change formation to narrow or put someone else there, cabaye and tiote shoot to much imo. Just a lot of frustration that makes the experience quite often not that enjoyable for me! We do pay money to watch this at the end of the day

  • 53 jimBOB // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    we should go for this chap – cheeky little bid on Domenico Berardi – 11 goals in 15 games and he is on loan at Sassuola from Juventus – granted he did smash 4 of those past AC at the weekend like. heard he is abit of an italian Nial Ranger though.

  • 54 Our Toon // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    Spoof

    He also recommended Brendan Rodgers to Swansea and give BR a glowing recommendation to Liverpool, he won’t get everything right no one ever does, look at Fergie, preferred cleverly over Pogba and Morrison!! Mourinho will get it right more times than he’ll get wrong!!

    We slate Santon yet some of the biggest European clubs want him, could it be Percy who isn’t get the best out of him?

  • 55 jayphoto // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    @TS – agree about the striker! In the last few years certain strikers have been available for under 25m and it was damn obvious they’d go on to be worth much more! Suarez was one of those!
    Falcao at River Plate was picked up for €4m and already had the club and international form to suggest hed be top class! Think the world and his dog knew about lukaku at anderlecht! Think Negredo had been available for about 2 seasons too!
    Saying that, given 25m with a stipulation that you could only use it for 1 player, who would you go for? Top players fees are rocketing up

  • 56 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Our Toon…people here slate Benny?

    Clash of culture my friend!

  • 57 wolfshead@toon // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    more arguments over the manager lol if pards was sacked do you think we would get a wish list manager under bumbles totalitarian regime? come on think about his track record of hiring managers

  • 58 Spoof // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    mindshaft@41

    thats spot on m8, Liverpool lost heavily on AC and Downing, but they will still be better off due to Suarez, his transfer fee will see Liverpool come on top, and what will they do about, re-invest with some more added, Brendan Rodgers will have a chance with them, what chance would he have with us.
    This is the main reason why I would keep Pardew, under the restrictions there is a good chance of the club going on a big slide, now into his forth year Pardew had proven that we will not go into a big slide, last seasons struggles were a huge learning curve for him, I honestly do believe that he is a better manager for it, and with a bit of support from Ashley I do feel he would only improve, people are criticising of type of football, why, we keep the ball down and pass it with midfielders making runs into dangerous areas which cause problems, to many are comparing him to Everton, Martinez has only had half a season, nothing has been proved yet, but look at West Ham, Norwich, Swansea, Soton and Sunderland who have all spent more than Pardrew, but are they better off than us and do they play better football ?

  • 59 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    just been reading that swansea have joined the chase for Gomis and Kinnear is en route to Germany

  • 60 Transfer Sage // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    jay

    honestly i have no idea myself….would need to really look into it but ideally have a scouting network to identify these people.

  • 61 cjtoon // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    TS:

    Thats it really its all about balance, and how well you can use the squad you have.

    The perfect example for me is Roberto Martinez whilst at wigan. He got a lot of not so technically gifted players playing very eye-catching and attacking football but lost the majority of his matches. Perhaps he could have changed his philosophy to suit the players more? Don’t get me wrong he did fairly well there but would they have taken survival in exchange for the nice football – im sure they would have. However now he is at everton with more advanced players he is doing brilliantly with that philosophy.

    With pardew he would be more suited to West hams squad with wing play target men and grafters. Its not a dig at the bloke he seems a fairly decent guy in a high pressure role. Sadly he seems unwilling/unable to alter his philosophy very quickly (i think he is trying). If we are keeping pardew we need to get players to suit his strengths and not because they are technically astute.

    In reality we havent got the right balance and as you say a more attacking outlook i would imagine would return a better points total and provide a much more entertaining experience for those involved with NUFC

  • 62 mag // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    The club is ran by a cheapskate who employs yes men who do his bidding no questions asked.

  • 63 pottsclock // Jan 16, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    TS
    If indeed this is true I am actually encouraged because:
    1. Swansea usually scout well and that says they rate Gomis
    2. Gomis should choose us over Swansea anyhow because we can match their value AND he should get more first team footbal with us

  • 64 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    TS…maybe Joke lost got my friend ;)

  • 65 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    *just got lost

  • 66 Slank // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Our Toon @ 17

    Can’t argue about the facts, you win!

  • 67 mag // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Kinnear is off to swap Cisse for De Jong good luck!

  • 68 Our Toon // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    Spoof

    You fail to realise that the way MA works things are only alien to English managers, it’s the way things are done on the continent, you say Percy won’t go into a big slide…..we’ve lost the last 4 games and scored 1 goal in the process!! In them 4 games we’ve had very few clear cut chances as we try to pinch goals rather than taking the game to the opposition!! Wake up mate come on, in 48 games Percy has won 6 by more than 1 goal!! 2 of those games were in capital one cup against Chesterfield and Leeds the other game was against 9 Man Stoke!! I want attacking, entertaining football not defensive boring football

  • 69 Slank // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    Rotonda @ 19

    slank

    ignorance in your case is most definitely not bliss

    Looks like it too but still don’t rate him -yet!

  • 70 Belfast // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    I voted for a loss, simply because our record against Fat sham is awful.

  • 71 Our Toon // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM

    Slank

    It’s defo not about winning but it’s very healthy to have differing opinions!! We all add something to this blog

    It’s concerning me that everyone else seems to be moving in this transfer window and we are still locked in talks with BM over De Jong!!

    Someone mentioned strikers on here under £20m, add Benteke to that list he was bought for £8m I think, a lot of us wanted Sturridge when Chelsea got rid for £9m!!! We are just to slow to make any moves

  • 72 Spoof // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:11 PM

    Our Toon

    that’s basically what I was saying, yes Mourinho know’s what he is talking about but some feel that Potchettino cannot possibly fail due to what Mourinho said about him, it isn’t that straight-forward.
    Its all about our views and opinions, just because Mourinho has expressed an opinion it doesn’t mean he is right, look at Colo, I don’t rate the lad, but he was voted by his peers to be one of the best 2 seasons ago, thats there view, I disagree with them, but too many people tell me that I’m wrong because professionals have said so, well the thing is some of these people who are telling me I’m wrong also want Pardew out but he was also voted manager of the season, does that automatically mean that that they are wrong and Pardew is a good manager, no it doesn’t, it means nothing, someone feels Colo is good, thats an opinion, someone feels he is poor, thats an opinion, the same applies to Pardew, Potchettino, and just because someone who is highly respected in the game makes a view, it is still just a view which is no more, or any less important than yours, mine and everybody else’s, Pellegini said that Tiote’s goal was an offside goal, thats his view, thats his opinion, personally I disagree with, but just because he is a professional who is highly thought of within the game doesn’t mean that he is right and I am wrong.

  • 73 JP...from The Rock // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    Our Toon – I see a lot of potential in Haidara. But we haven’t seen too much of him to judge yet. Though he does look more of a threat when bombing forward than Santon does. I haven’t seen much of him especially defending to make an accurate judgement, he is a defender at the end of the day.

    I would sell Santon if we’d got a big offer, but I can’t see it happening any time soon. I think in Haidara and Dummet we have good back-up.

  • 74 Spoof // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    Our Toon

    I don’t care how they work it on the continent, but if your trying to tell me that all continental coaches have to bring more cash in from player sales than what they spend on new recruits then sorry m8, I just will not believe that to be the case, just to make sure your aware of my views, that is the only bug bear which I have with Ashley, this bring them in at a younger age where they will improve for me is a good plan as they are hungrier and you would expect a big effort from them, but its solely the lack of support which gets my goat, whether its Pardew, Carr or Kinnear who is suffering from the restraints, I don’t really care, all I know is that Pardew is the manager and he is generally getting decent results with what he has at his disposal.

  • 75 Our Toon // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    Spoof

    Any manager gets a decision to go for them will always say the ref was right, just like Wenger who always claims he never sees incidents that go for Arsenal :)

    Pards is notorious for performing well in his first full season at clubs followed by sackings in 2nd full seasons!! I agree it’s important to have different opinions but to say let’s keep a manager because he’s ok just isn’t good enough

  • 76 Jail for Ashley // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    Our Toon,
    I don’t like Pards character or his managing ability and want him out, but I don’t spend my time slating him and even stick up for him from time to time as he’s the best we’ll get under Mashley, Pardew was brought in to do as he was told and finish as high as he could under the strict financial restraints Mikey imposes without qualifying for Europe, when he finished fifth with a threadbare squad Mashley knew he’d hit the jackpot and gave him an eight year contract knowing that if Pardew could finish fifth with minimal investment then he could surely finish tenth for the next eight years on a shoestring budget, however Mikey punished him for his high finish and pushed his policy to the limits by investing virtually nothing that infamous summer and nearly got us relegated, Pardew is seemingly ok with this arrangement and therefore isn’t going anywhere.

  • 77 jayphoto // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    Im betting kinnear end up swapping cisse for magic beans….

  • 78 70TWO // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    West Ham game:

    If the players were put in their correct positions I think the team would look like this:

    ——–HBA – Remy – Gouffran
    ——Cabaye – Tiote – Sissoko
    Haidarra – Saylor – Willo – Santon

    After the match there are 10 days before the next so there may be no need to rest players, although Anita could come in for any of the midfield & RB.

  • 79 jimBOB // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    Kinnear is on a bratty run for Mike!! there is the answer.

  • 80 jayphoto // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    We’ll go 4-4-2 vs west ham pretty nailed on shola will start !
    Id go 4-3-3 with remy/cisse/hba up top and anita/tiote/cabaye behind and just go for the throat!

  • 81 JP...from The Rock // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    All this blabber of a new manager will be better, I tell you this- THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE.

    On the whole I believe in Pardew, and still, although less, still have faith in his ability.

    I firmly put the blame on Ashley for NOT PROVIDING the players to create a fully functional and balanced squad.

    Give us proper wingers and strikers and perhaps a creative centre midfield player and we’ll be laughing our way into the top 6 to top 4 regularly!

    Until then I will sympathies with Pardew as he is doing the best with what we’ve got, most of the time.

  • 82 70TWO // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    A Shola start is very likely as Pardew will see him as a solution to a packed defense. If he does then that removes consistency from the equation and a few of the other squad players could get a start. If he were willing to experiment I would go with:

    ———–Shola – Cisse
    HBA – Cabaye – Tiote – Anita
    Dummet – Saylor – Willo – Mbiwa

    I would like to see Cabaye & HBA working together, which would be mega-creative!

  • 83 mindshaft // Jan 16, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    Laudrup: 47 Games: 36.17 win percentage
    Pochettino: 34 Games: 35.29 win percentage
    Pardew: 134 Games: 36.95 win percentage

    So Pards has a better overall win percentage than either of them, although they are all pretty much average

  • 84 JP...from The Rock // Jan 16, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    No way in hell should Strolla Ameobi start ahead of Cisse who was a goal machine once. If it’s down to confidence issues that he ain’t performing imagine how awful he must feel when he sees the lethargic and 1 goal in 50 ratio of Ameobi start ahead of him.

    I would be gutted and demand a transfer if I was him.




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