Newcastle Must Play With Intensity At West Ham


Newcastle have now lost four games in a row, and two of those defeats were against the Premier League top two sides at the moment – Arsenal and Manchester City – and we were a little unlucky not take something out of both those games.

Andy Carroll

Andy Carroll – could start for Hammers on Saturday

And we were beaten at West Brom, but only after Mathieu Debuchy got himself sent off in the second half, when we were pressing well and maybe could have come away with something from the game – but we didn’t.

And we were beaten in the FA Cup at the first attempt at home to Cardiff City – and that performances was simply unacceptable.

But in our next three games at West Ham and Norwich, followed by a home game against Sunderland, we should be favored to win in each of the games against three teams in the bottom five of the Premier League at the moment.

Whether Newcastle can press on and keep challenging for a top eight or even a top six place this season, will depend on Newcastle doing well against these weaker sides in the Premier League.

It would be very nice to get a win on Saturday, in a game where it appears that former striker Andy Carroll will get his first start of the season, after finally recovering from another lengthy injury.

Newcastle don’t usually play at their best against the weaker sides but we do well against the top sides, although we took nothing out of the recent home games with the Gunners and City.

We must play with the same intensity at Upton Park on Saturday, as did last weekend, if we are to get the needed 3 points against the Hammers.

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84 comments so far

  • cjtoon

    Jan 16, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #1

    The only everton players I think we would have in our first 11 are Baines (santon), Lukaku (even though he isnt theirs), Mirallas (sissoko RW), Barkley (Cabaye (english with more potential)), Jagielka (willo) and coleman is on par with debuchy but both have had excellent seasons.

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 16, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #2

    REPOST

    TDS

    Is that your answer “one swallow doesn’t make a summer” yet you bang on about Percy winning manager of the year and finishing 5th highest ever achievement!!

    I ask again the 3 young mangers I mentioned was a direct response to your question, why have you avoided my question?

    Why do you think Percy is a better manager than Pochettino, Poyet and Laudrup? I want reasons not sidestepping answers like a politician

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  • magpiemover

    Jan 16, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #3

    i havent comented for a while but i do feel players have lose form under pardew negative tactics , and i all so think we need a manager to take us on to the next level we have the players with the wrong type of manager , and that is my opinion ,

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  • Slank

    Jan 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #4

    REPOST

    Catchy @ 7

    Poyet achieved nothing at Brighton and the jury is still out at Sunderland.

    There is quite a difference between a manager whose team play nice football and a manager who wins trophies on a regular basis. The only manager in the Premiership to have done that is Wenger but he has had quite a few lean years of late.

    Were the Chelsea fans downhearted when their team won trophy after trophy because their team were boring? Likewise, did the Arsenal fans of old moan about always winning one nil when they swept the board?

    We are a mid table team and as such will employ a manager that is appropriate for that mid table position. Truly top managers go to truly top teams unless you come from the same country as the previous manager.

    All the pundits say that managing the owner/chairman by the manager is as important as managing the team. So far Pardew has done a good job at both.

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  • magpiemover

    Jan 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #5

    i all so think a good manager will get the best out of cisse , and if he leaves i think us as a club will regret letting him leave , to many players lose form uner pardew stewardship , ben arfa marv and all of them are class players , and pardew can not get the best out of players

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  • cjtoon

    Jan 16, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #6

    ok look at it this way>

    Everton Toon

    1. Howard 1. Krul
    2.Coleman 2. Debuchy
    3.Baines 3. Santon
    4.Distan 4. MYM
    5.Jagielka 5. Colo
    6.Barry 6. Tiote
    7.Mirallas 7. Ben Arfa
    8.Barkley 8. Cabaye
    9.Lukaku 9. Remy
    10.Mccarthy 10. Sissoko
    11.Pienaar 11. gouffran

    Subs

    1. Joel 1.Elliott
    2. stones 2. Saylor/willo
    3. osman 3. Haidara
    4. oviedo 4. Anita
    5. Jelavic 5. Cisse
    6. Naismith 6. Marveaux
    7. Delofeu 7. Sameobi

    In reality they are pretty even

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 16, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #7

    Hope AC plays. He is most fuggen excellent, and it would add a large chunk of niggle. Which is always fun, particularly considering he’ll be up against Willo and Tayls. No shrinking violets themselves.

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  • jayphoto

    Jan 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #8

    Think pardews done ok! If i owned the club he wouldn’t be my first choice of manager and he is a bit pragmatic but at the moment he deserves to keep his job! If we lose to west Ham and then lose to sunderland that will be 6 defeats in a row though and should that happen thats sacking form….

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  • pottsclock

    Jan 16, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #9

    Wasn’t there a rumour a few years ago that STaylor and Carroll had a training ground bust up where Carroll smacked him?
    Could be fireworks in this match…

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  • Slank

    Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #10

    2Our Toon

    To me Pardew, Pochettino, Poyet and Laudrup are all the same in that they haven’t won anything in the Premier League but accept that the last three haven’t had time enough to demonstrate their capabilities but how long was it before Fergie won his first trophy?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #11

    Slank

    If say poyet did a good bit at Brighton. They aren’t a good enough team to win things but he had them playing good football to watch at getting in and around the play offs.

    He has Sunderland leading a semi final and after some time settling in to a new style they are hard to beat but try to play good football too.

    As for pardew having a good relationship with Ashley…I think anyone would if they just bent over and took whatever he gave. For me it’s not a good relationship as too one sided and pardew doesn’t get what he wants (asked for a big commanding CB and striker for 2 years and not got one).

    TDS

    As for one swallow not making a summer..both laudrup and pochettino are young and have plenty more summers ahead, I’d rather have one swallow on my summer than none which pardew has.

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  • jayphoto

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #12

    Sad thing is in the last 30 years, Pardew is probably our 3rd best manager and is in the top 5 for the football played! The best attacking football ive seen was under Ardiles and we lost every game!
    Id take pardew over mcfaul, ardiles, cox, dalglish, souness, gullit, roeder and hughton! Not for his personality, his lack of class sometimes is infuriating but hes a better manager!

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  • magpiemover

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #13

    laudrup won a a cup already lol

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #14

    We really are a joke club aren’t we?

    With Mike Ashley now at the helm we lack ambition.

    With Freddie Shepherd at the helm we were over-ambitious and signing the wrong players at the wrong prices.

    We never seem to get the balance right and this is sooooooo frustrating for every Newcastle fan.

    We’ve had to put up with so much shite on a monthly basis, that if it were turned into a TV series it would be one of the most successful in history with so many twists and turns.

    I am just fed up with it all. I want success now or very bloody soon. We are on the brink of having an excellent team if we only had that extra bit of ambition to sign the quality players we lack in key positions.

    We need wingers, that’s been obvious ever since Solano and Robert left-and that was AGES AGO!

    We seriously lack firepower upfront and that has been evident before Shearer even left!!

    No way in hell can we call the pathetic Strolla a striker ffs!

    Remy is not ours and we are yet to replace Ba and Best!

    If we were to sign only three players now or in the summer we would dramatically change our fortunes for the better.

    Our chances of silverware would multiply as we would have a fully functional and balanced team at last.

    Later in the future we could then sign just one more attacking midfield player to create more chances and be of more of a goal threat though the centre, and to not only depend on Cabaye for that creative spark. And a CB to replace the soon departing Coloccini.

    It’s so simple to achieve success with the solid foundation we have now in place, all we need is ambition.

    Before we had too many weak and poor players mixed in with some talent.

    Now we have a very talented squad lacking that little bit of depth that all successful clubs have.

    I just wish we sort it soon as this club is becoming a drag, full of false dawns, isn’t it about time this sleeping giant WOKE UP!?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #15

    I’m also not naive enough to think if we go for the next laudrup, pochettino we could get a dud.

    But at some point we will have to replace pardew, even if it’s 20 years when he retires, so we need to ‘gamble’ at some point.

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  • Slank

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #16

    TS

    How many relationships are not one-sided between an employee and the owner of any organisation?

    Owners of football clubs hold all the cards and pull all the strings unless you are SAF or Arsene Wenger. These two are the only ones I can think of where the relationship was perhaps different.

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #17

    Slank

    Here’s some facts for you Gus Poyet mate, he was Wise’s no 2 at Leeds but was the brains behind the teams impressive performances, they were flying Hugh when he left and then dropped down the table!! He took over a Brighton team fighting relegation in league 1, they stayed up that season and won the league the following year!! Brighton then finished in play offs in first season in championship!! They were one of the faves to go down!! He’s now come in at the scum who were 8 pts adrift and bottom, to now being 2-1 up in a semi final, 2nd from bottom and couple of pts off getting away from relegation!! Not bad eh

    Laudrup as I’ve already said has won more than Percy has in his entire career, the guy is tipped as being a future Barcelona manager, Pochettino has managed to take a relegation threatened Southampton who are now 1 place behind us both have had limited time as managers

    Laudrup has played Percy 3 times and beat him on all 3 occasions, Poyet has played Percy 3 times and beat him 3 times

    Percy toon over us as mid table team, we are still in the same place!! Fergie won things at Aberdeen, Percy has never won anything apart from Johnston paint trophy for league 1 or summit!!!

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  • Belfast

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #18

    I see Hull are able to spend 13 million odds on two strikers. Two strikers that we could have done with tbh

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #19

    slank

    ignorance in your case is most definitely not bliss

    Poyet did well at Leeds

    Brighton were bottom of the league when Poyet went there, he kept them up, got them promoted the next season and just missed out on the play-offs.

    When Poyet went to Sunderland they were 8 points adrift!!

    Poyet has had a very short managerial career.

    pardew has won nothing in nearly 20 years!!!

    More importantly, as I keep saying, Poyet, Pochettino and Laudrup all play football, not just mind numbing ” containment ”.

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  • jimBOB

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #20

    I think if Pards won the Leauge people would still want him sacked. I think he has done OK,

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #21

    in the play-offs

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #22

    slank

    I do accept the owner rules most of the time. But the key from any job is to get the best deal to help yourself. For me (I may be wrong as we don’t know privately) I just think Pardew seems to be too soft a touch and not push for the players he wants.

    He wanted a big CF so why did we get remy, a big strong CB and we get mbiwa…good players but not what he wanted.

    To me Pardew seemed to know that he signed up as an out of work league 1 manager and knew fine well he wouldn’t, and still wouldn’t in my opinion, get a job as big as Newcastle ever again, and Ashley knows this too…therefore Pardew does exactly what he is told, won’t push enough for people he wants.

    It’s just my opinion, no real facts to back it up, other than we havent got players he has asked for.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #23

    That word ” ok ” again. OK means mediocre, could do better, nothing special etc etc

    Pardew has done ok if you have very low expectations.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #24

    JIMBOB

    Pardew win the league

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #25

    if people say pardew is average, neither great not poor…seems to be the consensus of those who support him. (correct me if i’m wrong). He just doesn’t suit the team with his style of football.

    You could have an average rally driver and but him in a formula one car, would drive it but an average formula one driver would get more from the car.

    Neither would win the championship, but there would be a few places difference and with a bit of luck on their side one might place or win the odd race (in our terms a cup)

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #26

    Mourinho is touting Pochettino as future Real Madrid manager and has come out and said he’s spoken to Madrid about him!!

    JP from the rock

    I think Santon to Arsenal has legs, he’s a we get type of player!! We’ve conceded more goals from Debuchys side of the pitch than we have from santons, we love a scapegoat and santon gets unfair stick on here!! Normally like to read your contributions but remember Wenger did buy Andre Santos and Nacho Monreal as left backs, both are shocking defensively

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  • pottsclock

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #27

    I think this is pretty good debate on managers and like most things, time will tell and that time will be at the end of the season and at that point I’ll make my view on who is the better manager – there is evidence both ways.
    Poyet’s replacement, for example, has Brighton in pretty much the same position as they were last season and without a couple of key loanees. However, Poyet did have them playing more attractive football.
    Pochettino has done very well at Southampton but has not had one full season there yet…and it looks like he won’t get one. Too soon to judge for these two for me.
    I’d have Martinez and probably Laudrup over Pardew though. Both have one things with teams of limited resources.

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  • pottsclock

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #28

    *won* nor *one*

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #29

    The manager is at fault to a degree, but I can’t see Poyet or Laudrup or any manager do much better than fifth under this regime.

    Al this talk is pointless if we keep having an owner that won’t supply this club with what it needs- players that balance the team, and our formation.

    Proper wingers to cross the ball in the area regularly.

    Strikers to get on the end of the crosses.

    We have neither. Only Cisse is our main striker and he’s bang out of form and confidence and can you blame him? Where is the service?

    Now we have Remy (on loan!) and he is being deployed as an out an out striker upfront on his own? With no wingers supplying the balls to him.

    It really does beggar belief.

    What the hell are we playing at?

    Ashley get your head out your ass and gives us the players we need ffs!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #30

    potts

    it is a good debate, peopel from both sides giving examples and thoughts to back up their arguments for the most part

    I’d also say that bringing signings into the equation isn’t always fair in judging….pardew has little say, AVB at spurs had little say…no idea who signs players at swansea, southampton, brightin etc

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  • BuckLuck

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #31

    TS @ 15
    Good point. Pardew must be replaced at one point, so why not now?

    Rotonda heights @ 19
    I completely agree. Pardew have tried for 20 years without doing anything special. He is a manager for a club that’s not interested in growing or evolving.

    Keeping Pardew is the same as agreeing that we have a top 10 club at best. Of course there are a lot of managers out there that could do better with our attacking players. A lot.

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  • cjtoon

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #32

    I think for all of the people that seem content with Pardew to be manager we should get a scale of how they would rate our perfomances to watch as a visual stimulus. On a scale of:

    1. Mind Numbing
    2.Might have nodded off a couple of times
    3. Quite a negative experience
    4. Not great to watch but picked up a result
    5. A game of two halves
    6. O.K to watch
    7. solid enjoyable 90 minutes of viewing
    8. created considerable excitement
    9. Consistently edge of seat
    10. Excellent Positive experience

    Personally i have been option 4. for most of this season however I have reignited my feelings for Pardew from last season and im now firmly back in option 1.

    What about everyone else

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  • jimBOB

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #33

    I dont think he could win the league with any team, but we have to start realising he isnt going anywhere, yes he is OK, if I had come out and said he is Awsome I would have been met with Great comments. and im a lover not a fighter.

    all im saying is, his name was being sang week in week out when we where winning, we lose a few games and everyone wants him gone again (granted there are fans that have wanted that for a while)

    we could get one of those other managers in, what happens when the 11 players on the pitch go back to miss placed passes and stupid red cards commiting stupid acts to give away free kicks and penaltys, in dangerous area’s, GET THEM OUT ASWELL?

    yes Poyet and Laudraup are looking like they will amount to great things, better things than pardew, but the fact still remains that he is Our manager, so lets just get behind him and see what he can do.

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  • mag

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #34

    It’s the battle of the halfwits Pardew and Big Sam, English football’s nearly men, so it should be a classic example of how not to play football.

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #35

    TS

    Don’t forget mate that this notion of having players signed for you as manager is only alien to English managers, everywhere else in world football, a manager manages the team and DF signs players!!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #36

    cj

    somewhere between 4 and 6 with 4 being the majority of games.

    I do however say also point 9, i am always on the edge of my seat. We don’t kill teams off so even when winning or playing badly we either hang on which is exciting (for a different reason) or when losing we have players capable of something special…so also edge of seat.

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #37

    Our Toon – Glad to hear you read my posts. Honestly if Arsenal do take Santon from us he’ll be doing us a favour I am afraid.

    Santon is too one dimensional, too predictable and wonders off in games. He leaves us exposed time after time and offers opposing players too much space at times to cross in the ball into our box.

    He’s good on the tackle and I like it when he bombs forward but you never see him sprinting back to get into his position as Debuchy does. Compare the two and you can see Santon’s flaws a mile away. Debuchy busts a nut to track back if he goes forward and that’s what you’d expect of a defender.

    Also Santon is a terrible crosser of the ball and ‘always’ has to cut back onto his right foot, that most of the time costs a second or two of our attacking momentum. Opposing defenders know this trait of his too and are easily taking the ball of him before he crosses.

    Last season he was easily our best player and I really thought it was going to be a steady rise in performances from him then on, but sadly I have been let down and he’s gone back to his early displays of not tracking back etc.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #38

    our toon

    of course, manager has some input but not total control. That’s why I think there are plenty who’d work under Ashley. How often in spain do you see a team decide to sell 2/3 top players and just say pick their replacement from the academy. At least with Ashley, for all his transfer faults, we have a reasonable squad of players.

    jimbob

    during the game i’m 100% behind pardew and every player on the pitch for us….just hear is the time to discuss change or what we’d like to change/remain

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  • jimBOB

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #39

    CJ

    Against some of the top teams I would say 8

    with me dropping back to 4-6 for teams we should be getting results against.

    1 – against the scum though.

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  • jimBOB

    Jan 16, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #40

    TS

    Fair play mate

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