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French Star Our Man Of The Match

4:52 pm, Sunday, January 19th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 306 Comments

It’s hardly surprising that Yohan Cabaye is our Man of the Match for yesterday’s game at West Ham, after he scored two superb goals and it was a very good all round performance from the French International midfielder.

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Yohan Cabaye – scoring Newcastle’s first goal yesterday

Cabaye has a massive 83% of the vote, with our other two central midfielders Cheick Tiote and Vurnon Anita next in line with just 3%, with Vurnon starting to do a good job in midfield for Newcastle these days.

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306 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    This headline was written well before the game..

    surely odds were on a french player being our MoTM :P

    Cabaye was pure class.

  • 2 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    some people questioned joses judgement when he bought eto!

  • 3 theartfuldodger // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:01 PM

    Manu being very physical. Theyr stoppin counter attacks by hook or by crook and trying to close down forcing cech to hoof. Worked for a bit but in the end Manu attack just isnt good enough.

  • 4 IITianToon // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:01 PM

    @Anita
    Yep, Cabaye is such a professional footballer. Why Benny cannot learn from his beyond me!

    @wolfs,
    Jose picks eto’o ahead of torres and he grabs a brace! The man, no doubt a great manager, but so is his luck line on his palm!

  • 5 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:02 PM

    Middx

    Sturridge does have a high opinion of himself as do many modern players. Its the money. He is a good player though. I could deffo see a forward line for england having both him and welbeck in it with an in for rooney pulling the strings around them.

  • 6 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    In form*

  • 7 Ben3arfa // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    Joe Kinnear was in the stands at Upton Park yesterday. #nufc

    SO MUCH FOR BEING IN GERMANY TRYING TO SIGN DE JONG. LAZY OLD TOSSER

  • 8 Barras // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    If Demba Ba started as many games as Eto’o has this season, he would have more goals. I have no doubt. Mourinho plays his favourites even if it is unjust. Just ask Juan Mata, who was arguably the best midfielder in the Premier League last year.

  • 9 Barras // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    The same goes for Lukaku as well.

  • 10 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    Does it really matter if some of you guys rate Laudrup or not? He is not going to be our manager anyway and if you don’t like to watch his brand of football there always another game on you can watch!

    …does that settle it?

  • 11 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    Eto’o hatrick

  • 12 MiddxNUFC // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    Barras

    I’ve been saying that to my Chelsea supporting friends all season

    Natural goal scored Ba is

  • 13 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    Loved how Januzaj just barges his way past De Gea as the ball comes in.

  • 14 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    tian

    yes he luck but hes a winner he has the weakest squad compared to citeh and arsenal but it would be no surprise if they won the prem apart from anything else he is the best mind f*** in the game haha

  • 15 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    Puts off the keeper, leaving him unbalanced and also prevents him from even thinking about challenging for the ball.

  • 16 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    Haha.. Moyes sensing a rout now… Smalling to the rescue.

  • 17 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    Tian

    Maybe eto’ooooo has been showing better form in training. I think most of Jose’s choices are down to his excellent judgement rather than luck. So far im my 36 year life span i have to say alex strawberry nose fergusson is the most successful manager in the english league i have seen, even if i think he is a horrible tw@t. But Jose M, by the time i die, certainly has the pedigree to become better

  • 18 Tsunki // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:11 PM

    Eto’o is doing well but I cant help feeling Shola would beon a hat trick aganst this Man U side. They are truly fulfilling the Great Ketsy’s prophecy. Boneless.

  • 19 MiddxNUFC // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    I say that just as eto’o completes his hatrick…

  • 20 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    Middx
    Lol fair play mate! :)
    I think when Welbeck had his breakthrough season he looked decent but i think he’s bought in to his own hype to much, Manure didnt help that in all fairness by giving him a 70k a week contract before seeing if he could play like that consistently!
    If he gets back to basic’s he could still become a top player but imo his ego is his stumbling block

    Jesper
    Didn’t think they were discussing if he would do better than pardew here just if he was doing better than Pardew, give the fact there only 3 points off the relegation zone i’d day he isn’t

  • 21 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:15 PM

    Tsunki

    On the other hand, they have not become useless over night. I believe in the “transition season” theory. Four top players in summer and they will be challenging again nezt year. I think we should enjoy this while it lasts :D

  • 22 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:15 PM

    tsunki

    shola hat trick thats an exaggeration too far :-)

  • 23 theartfuldodger // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    Im surprised that a team like Manu plays Evans as CB and phil jones as DM.

  • 24 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    Tsunki
    That has nowt to do with Manure’s form but more to do with the fact Shola is simply world class

    Barras
    Would love to see Ba back on Tyneside

  • 25 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    Seeing them rip Manure apart…best Birthday gift for me today :))))

  • 26 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    Markaccus
    I genuinely don’t think Moyes could attract four top players, just dont think he has a big enough reputation within the game

  • 27 MiddxNUFC // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:19 PM

    Has the rumour mill given up on Ba coming back to Newcastle? Nothing like a bit of false hope from papers on a slow news day!

  • 28 Tsunki // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:21 PM

    Markaccus – without a doubt, but rarely has Man U endured such a lengthy transition, they usually have a core of layers who the team changes around, in this case missing the likes of RVP and Rooney changes them immeasurably. I also think that SAF had a bit of a issue with getting his squad strengthened in recent years, otherwise players like Scholes and Giggs, great thought they were, would have been out well before they have been, let alone brought back from retirement. If their board dont give Moyes the strength in the transfer market he requires, the transition may not end for some considerable time. It would be weird to see Man U as a perennial mid table team, and admittedly kind of sad. Unless of course we take their place :)

  • 29 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    Tads…everyone finds it hard at times for whatever reason!
    And as we all know when you are down it can be difficult to get up…it happens regardless of what kind of football you play and it happens whether you are in Europe or not.

    …I am not sure if it matters whether we think Pardew have done better or worse than Laudrup? What matters to me is what Pardew has done with what he got and how it looks :)

  • 30 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    How does Oscar keep Mata out of the team?

  • 31 Marty-Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:23 PM

    Nice to see the Man U fans suffering :-0

  • 32 Tsunki // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:24 PM

    tads @24 – ha ha true, very true. :)

  • 33 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:24 PM

    Tads

    Yeah i agree he couldnt himself. However manure are still a massive club, unfortunately, and i believe that will provide the pull. Moyes is a good manager tbf. He will get himself a decent rep in a few seasons time.

  • 34 mindshaft // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:25 PM

    Jeez – glad we didnt get Moyes in as manager, he’s doing a terrible job at manure

  • 35 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    @Marty-Toon

    The plastics will just move onto another club.

  • 36 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    Jesper
    Well its fair to say he’s Pardews doing better than last season with what he’s got
    On paper our squad is top 8 possibly top 6 at a push so he’s about on track tbh
    We still dont have much natural width or a natural number 10, luckily Cabaye is doing very well in the advanced role and goofy and Sissoko are doing alright wide but we wont progress in league position or in performance massively until we invest in the right areas which us something MA does not do, he goes for who’s available rather than who we need when we need them

  • 37 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:28 PM

    Mourinho just shat himself a little bit.

  • 38 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    anita

    true its a short jog to the etihad ;-)

  • 39 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    Marty
    Half the fans at the bridge supporting Chelsea supported Man Utd last season!

  • 40 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:31 PM

    @ToonArmydownsouth

    So I wasn’t the only one who recognized that bloke in the chelsea stands… I knew I wasn’t the only one who saw him at Old Trafford last season!

  • 41 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    Tsunki

    I think this transition will be longer due to it being managers and players. Like i say, hoping it lasts for 10 years is natural, but wishful thinking :D

  • 42 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:35 PM

    Tads…I agree with that observation and sad part is we are not even making money on our players if you disregard Carroll!

    …I don’t know what to do about that sadly so I concentrate on the football are am being served and want that to be as good as possible.

    But it concerns me we keep our youngsters here when the season starts and it concerns me we only seem to use 14 players of a 23 man squad! Will it be any better with new addition? History says it won’t unless Pardew’s hands are forced in some ways;

  • 43 jimmysmith // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:40 PM

    Maybe Nicollin and Corbus have their noses a little out of joint because Newcastle keep plundering their leagues for their best talent for a fraction of their worth with its TV money, that only came its way because Sky as we now know it by chance emerged in the UK out of Murdochs London based media juggernaut and reinvented football.

    Or something like that.

  • 44 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:41 PM

    Seriously why font they use Hernandez more, the lad is such a poacher and has lightning reactions

  • 45 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:43 PM

    Hernandez, has been there best player since coming on

  • 46 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    Hahaha. How pants was smallings effort there?

  • 47 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    their*

  • 48 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    Haha. Brilliant.

  • 49 Goodfella // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:50 PM

    Lets all laugh at man u hajahahahaha :)

  • 50 Goodfella // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:53 PM

    That wee club from up north are only 1 point behind ;)

  • 51 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    Rafael is a dirty little tw@.

  • 52 IITianToon // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    Indeed Ed, how we can still do business with a club so vitriolic towards us is unthinkable!

  • 53 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:55 PM

    how was that not a red!
    exactly the same as debuchy’s!

  • 54 martoon // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    Just back from the DIY so see Vidic getting a red card – harsh I thought but funny.
    Markaccus – I like your idea of GSETDI unfortunately my son doesn’t know one end of a screwdriver from another.
    Good result for the Toon and the mackems as Vidic can’t play in the second leg.

  • 55 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    If Vidic got sent off for that then how the hell was Rafeal not sent off
    Awful challenge

  • 56 Graeme // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    A good result for Chelski, we close the gap to manure by 3 points!! We only 1 (I think) behind them now in 8th but 5 behind Everton in 6th.
    We could really push Everton for that 6th spot as it could well be a place in Europa League!!

    Bring it on lol

  • 57 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 19, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    And that ladies and gentlemen proves their is still massive favouritism towards big clubs in the PL as that Rafael tackle was just as bad as Debuchy’s but he stays on the pitch .

  • 58 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:02 PM

    Big papa c

    It is mainly because dowd is a bottler. He would never DARE send 2 manure players off. Chelsea were always going to win this because dowd is a homer AND chelsea are a top 4 side. Had it been v swansea and not manure they would have won 8-0

  • 59 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    Martoon

    Thats a teribble thinm to say about your son :D
    Mind, you should hear the way Dave talks about his builder.

  • 60 theartfuldodger // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM

    Rafael got most of the ball. That kind of saved him.
    I do think red for vidic was hard.

    But Im loving manu suferring. They have a lot of fans in other parts of the world. Most of them will flip sides.

    The question is whether manu can afford to spend a lot. They seemingly have not done so besides Van Persie.
    Can they bear a couple of seasons of mediocricty without CL football.
    How will it affect their world wide fan base.

  • 61 theartfuldodger // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Oops fergot about Fellaini.

  • 62 Ben3arfa // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    Nobody tell Pardew that we might be pushing for the Europa league lol

  • 63 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    Has everyone checked out a website called afdah.com for all the latest films, we watched wolf on wall street last night, unbelievable (the web site) and the film was good.

  • 64 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:14 PM

    Ben arfa,
    If M City win the league cup and Chelsea/City/ Arsenal face each other in the FA cup we might have an outside chance of qualifying for the EL.

  • 65 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:18 PM

    The Laudrup and Percy debate is a funny one, Harley etc love to bring it up, Laudrup has played Percy 3 times and beat him 3 times, Laudrup has won more in his 3/5 year management career than Percy has won in 14+ years. Percy has a better squad but almost relegated the better squad last year, Laudrup flirting with relegation but has 16 odd games to ensure he finishes higher than 16th

    Glad Rafael didn’t get sent off he’d miss the cup game against the scum, if they got into the final under Gus Poyet Percy’s lovers would have a fit

  • 66 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    Jail

    Was the quality of the film good or could you tell it was a copy?

  • 67 MiddxNUFC // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    Jail
    I hope to god that we bring in more players if we qualify for europa league
    Like, 1 first team winger, 1 development winger so sissoko can return to CM and Gouffran can player as a Striker/No10 again, a striker to replace remy/cisse, a Striker to replace Ba, bring bigi through, have santon as back up to debuchy and bring dummet and haderia through…I’m not asking for much!

  • 68 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    JFA
    No mate will have to check that out!
    Got a great app the other day, itunes effed up by putting it up for free when it was supposed to be £20!
    Its called Cartoon HD got loads of films new and old like man of steel fast six world war z and full series of stuff like family guy south park etc and you can download them straight to your phone then stick them on your computer!

  • 69 Ancientcoptic // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    The Man Utd fans are turning on each other, with the split over Moyes. Total melt-down.

    I just laugh at the ‘holier than thou’ Man Utd fans, who think they are real fans because they support Moyes.

  • 70 stuart no9 // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    listening to souness and hoddle both saying vidic was a yellow – no more, I think they are wrong, for the simple fact both feet were off the ground. Rafael, without a doubt should have seen red but I think the ref got it right with vidic for the lunge.

  • 71 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    Our Toon,
    Quality on the phone/tablet/ laptop is great loses it a bit when put on the telly.

  • 72 Ancientcoptic // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Vidic was nowhere near the ball, it was a 100% lunge on Hazard… Looked a red to me.

    Rafael has a short-fuse and was charging around looking to take somebody out… 2 footed tackle is a straight red. (I hope they ban him)

  • 73 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Middx,
    Lets get there first, I will praise Mashley if we spend a few quid this January.

  • 74 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    If anyone looked at Swansea 2nd half of last season they would see the bad form started then! When EL wasn’t even in the picture!

    His poor run in pretty much all 2013 except the league cup, which the mackems and west ham are in the semi final of this year!

    Yes we all would love a cup, but Laudrup is over rated! Brendan Rodgers set the style of play, and Martinez before that….. BOTH made Swansea play better than Laudrup …..

    Pardew inherited a fairly poor team and with the help of Carr added some pretty impressive players for nothing! Our 5 January signings last year cost 18m!

    Bony and Shelvey cost that alone!

    And another thing about Laudrup if they have 4/5 better midfielders than Ki who is on loan at Sunderland, I would like to know who!

    Great player and LOAN! Arguably handed Mackems 4-5 points by playing for them!

  • 75 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    Jail

    Thanks mate will defo check it out!!

    In my eyes Vidic did exactly what MYM did and both deserved reds

  • 76 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    Anyone know out about Cabella?

  • 77 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    Pawl

    He couldn’t guarantee Ki games and lad wanted to play as he has his eyes on the World Cup, Swansea finished higher under Laudrup than when BR was manager!! They also bought Michu who cost £2m…..that’s what we paid for Remy and we don’t even own him

  • 78 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:34 PM

    What I’ve learned from reading this site for seven years is that people will use certain facts to suit their own arguments.

  • 79 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    Pawl
    Laudrup has never spent more than one and half seasons at a club and barring a successful spell at Getafe he has managed in some very weak leagues

    One season in the PL with a mid table finish and he’s suddenly the best manager in the world!
    He done very well getting the league cup but that doesn’t make him world class, otherwise Bradfords manager would if been snapped up!

    They have had a truly shocking run over the last year, there only 3 points from safety and he is massively struggling bedding in the signings and balancing Europe, sound familiar!!! (Well apart from getting all his signings when he wanted them!)

  • 80 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    We had a debate on Kevin De Bruyne earlier, he was criticised and some claiming he isn’t worth £17m because he couldn’t get a game for Chelsea, this lad is going to become a class player, remember he couldn’t get ahead of Willian (fantastic engine) Hazard, Oscar, than there’s Schurrle and Mata no wonder the lad left he’s another who wanted games

    Not to dissimilar to the Matic situation, who has returned to Chelsea for £21m after being part of a deal that bought Luiz to the bridge +£24m

  • 81 JP...from The Rock // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    Yes Man Ure lost hahah luvin it!! I fcuking hate them and are now still just a point above us.

    Out Toon- Bony played well today, is a great finisher but i would prefer a more mobile player that can also hold the ball and score like say a player similar to Adebayor or a quick and nimble player that is neat on the touch like Hernandez. Oh and i would have ANY player over our useless Strolla Ameobi lolol

    I am disgusted by Montpellier’s comments and I just wish we clinch Cabella and it’s a slap in their faces. Moving over here did no harm at all to Cabaye and M’biwa. Cabella will help take us to the next level.

    Come on get that deal sorted Ashley and bang the nail in Montpellier’s coffin.

  • 82 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    Middx

    I think a Sissoko is one of our best players …… And has found some impressive form on the wing.

    I personally feel with Cabaye Anita and Tiote our centre mid is pretty strong.

    We need a new striker ….. Baring in mind Remy is not ours officially yet or may never be.

    We are pretty strong across the pitch but we need a striker ….. Our back up striker is Shola and Cisse one is massively overrated by NUFC fans and the other the complete opposite….. Although he needs to find confidence!

    Bottom line we need a better Shopa type player, then get Remy or his equal in terms of quality and style in play in the summer should we not get him.

    Basically our front line is the weakest when looking at the whole picture.

  • 83 89Norcal // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    Jail For Ashley
    Or ignore facts completely :)

  • 84 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    JFA
    Surely not!
    Did you know Danny Simpson was the best RB in the league ;)

  • 85 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    ourtoon just because laudrop hasn’t said as much in regaurd to the europa you can’t deny that its effected them
    plus last season he had a dig at pardew for saying that it did

  • 86 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:40 PM

    Our toon

    Big difference in De Bruynes case! They are all immense players that could walk into most teams in the PL…..

    Swansea have VERY average centre midfield players and the fact he is in the EL makes the loan even more ridiculous! Ki would walk into Swansea midfield based on recent performances…. Laudrup dropped a clanger.

    As for BR he brought Swansea up, kept them up and left!

    Laudrups first season flatters to decieve! Yes a cup win is priceless but he is overrated!

  • 87 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:41 PM

    Possible team after Jan:

    ————-Cabaye————–Tiote————-

    ——Sissoko——–Cabella——–Remy——–

    ———————–Mitroglu———————-

    I think out of the strikers we have been linked with Mitroglu is the best choice IMO and although Gouffran is a great player I would have Remy in his position out wide as he is more suited to playing there and has more pace .

  • 88 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    Tads

    Sounds like us, only he got to spend serious cash in the window before the season started supposedly making his squad stronger!

    Big difference! Pardew didnt!

    Then he left Ki go which is odd, I would take Ki over ANY Swansea midfielder!

    As for Michu (someone else mentioned this) he was a good player last season but he what has he done this season under injury or even towards end of last season.

    I agree with Tads Laudrup is overrated, 1 season!

    Pardew got us to 5th is he overrated? Or was it a fluke!?

    Certainly a harder accomplishment than league cup, although I would prefer the cup, but still the accomplishment in terms of which is harder finishing 5th certainly is!

  • 89 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:47 PM

    Our toon
    Bit selective mate saying people were saying he couldn’t get a game for Chelsea so wasn’t worth the money
    It was being said how can a club justify paying £10 million more than Chelsea paid when he only had a six month loan spell at Genk and a season in which he dud ok for wolfsburg

  • 90 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:49 PM

    TADS

    No one said Laudrup is world class mate that’s a daft assumption made by you Percy lovers…. I compare Laudrup and the BRAND of football they play with the players they have compared to us!! You Percy lovers tend to disappear on these runs of defeats we tend to go through :)

    Like we’ve said let’s see where Swansea finish this season under Laudrup, they have an inferior squad to when we played in EL if they finish above 16th than what does that say?

    Does anyone think Percy is the best manager in the league or world class or the 2nd best manager in the world? Percy lovers rate him highly but when you dig deeper into the facts the majority say he’s the best we can get under this regime or he’s doing OK!! We have a better team/squad than Swansea and rightly we are ahead of them Southampton etc but they have young up coming managers, we have a dinosaur who is very rigid in his thoughts of how football should be played!! On the diving issue, only the British fans think this is an issue, everywhere else is world football it’s seen as an art, we call it cheating the rest call it excellent play to give there team an advantage!!

  • 91 JP...from The Rock // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:49 PM

    I just wish we would invest a bit on more quality this month and shock everyone by clinching 4th and CL.

    It makes my blood boil that we are only one point off Man Ure that lie 7th and on SKY SPORTS they still think they can make the CL and don’t even give us a mention!

    I know it’s because we lack those 1-3 extra players of quality. But still it is so annoying to see us get ignored completely time after time.

    Go on Ashley sign us the players we need to shock the football world and shut the trap of some of these so called ‘football experts’ on Sky!

  • 92 Belfast // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:53 PM

    Two bets up this weekend Woohoo

    Moyes must stay !!! lol

  • 93 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:57 PM

    TAdS

    They’ve paid for a 22 year old who will command a fee of £30m + in a couple of years, they’ve paid for one of the biggest talents in European football similar to what Chelsea did with Matic!! Shelvey replace Ki in the starting line up, I’d take Shelvey over him

    We need to buy a CB Saylor again proved he isn’t up to it after another error which led to a goal!! Winger and 2 CF’s and this squad should mount a challenge for Europe next season!! I hope we invest in the summer though as players leaving will be Colo, Cabaye, Remy and possibly HBA!! Shola will be out of contract but thank god for that

  • 94 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    Jp

    Don’t forget, all the major broadcasters had manure still potential title winners over xmas period. Why try for 4th when we can still get the title :D

    I totally agree, that whole attitude from sky, itv bbc et.c p!sses me off too.

  • 95 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    Jp

    Three words – Rooney, Van Persie

    That is why Man Utd could clinch the CL they are playing without their best players, in the past they had an abundance of quality across the whole pitch, now they very much rely on goals from their better players.

    I think their next best player is Januzaj …..

    Great player, who stands out above all those who cost millions and millions!

    OurToon

    By no means is Pardew world class, he is very average. It really annoyed me pre season all this talk about wishing Laudrup was our manager! I honestly don’t see much difference! They are both very average.

    My personal opinion I would have sacked Pards for Martinez in the summer before Everton snapped him up, he is so underrated. Said it before he went to Everton people can check it up on this blog at the end of last season should they want proof!

    If we couldn’t get him I then said Poyet, he is going to save the Mackems this season, good manager!

  • 96 Belfast // Jan 19, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    I think Laudrup is a good manager. Swansea have an over reliance on Michu though, And he’s been out most of the season. Don’t really fancy their back up keeper either…

    Think if they can get Michu and their goalkeeper back soon they’ll be fine.

  • 97 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:00 PM

    Our toon

    Another daft assumption is this…

    Anyone who disagrees with “pardew out” is a pardew LOVER. This whole “agree with me or be insulted/derided” bull sh!t must stop. It is pathetic.

  • 98 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    there BRAND of football ourtoon has got them 5 wins in 32
    and for all of there possession they still only average 3 shots on target

    Joseph Barton ?@Joey7Barton 4h
    Swansea keeping ball with no purpose. Lots of teams doing this at the moment, seems in vogue. Possession with no penetration is pointless.

    and on the diving thing i couldn’t give a rats arse wat they say on the continent its cheating and very embarrassing and not needed in the game

  • 99 Belfast // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    Bony looks the business lately like. Remy and Bony up front for us would be nice. :)

  • 100 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    Pawl250

    I speak to an everton fan often, and he says there is a 1 problem with martinez…. he won’t defend at all, so if his well organised attacking style (which is nice to watch) isn’t working, he struggles to find another way to win. He is lucky to have a squad who can mostly get it to work. According to my mate this is a common opinion among everton fans, not just him. This is probably why wigan went down, they were no where near as good as everton are. All in all it reminds me of KK first time round with us!

  • 101 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    mark well said

  • 102 Laurent Robert 32 // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:08 PM

    We did play better in the first half yesterday, although I did think that massive gaps opened up for us through them being very poor and immobile as opposed to us tearing them apart sort of thing. It was on a plate for us to find space against them.

    Second half we were poor though.

    We play better stuff when Anita is on the pitch I reckon, but that is obvious as he keeps the ball moving very well. I was wanting him in last year, and Gouffran, instead of Pardew persisting with a poor Tiote (a lot better this year) and Jonas.

    Allardyce has only won 2 at home this year and that was to Cardiff and Fulham so although it is 3 points and a good first half, it doesn’t mean we are Brazil.

  • 103 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    off topic but carn’t pardew afford a new pair of glasses!!

    http://t.co/MensIs8Dhd

  • 104 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:10 PM

    Markaccus

    I’ve never once come on here and said Percy out or Pardew out, I think that’s quite childish really but I look around and see a good team that could do better with another man at the helm, I didn’t realise you’d be so offended by being referred to as Percy lover (don’t see how that offensive btw please explain) whilst we are on the subject you are one of the first to consistently use the term “neggers” Try to have a constructive debate without swearing mate!! If Percy is so good why is he happy earning £500k when he could get a lot more elsewhere, if Percy is so good why was he plucked Fromm the unemployment line after leaving a division 1 club?

    Pawl

    I’m with you on that Martinez would have been my first choice and Poyet my 2nd choice!!

  • 105 Belfast // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:10 PM

    I’ve a funny feeling we might see Man Utd trying to sign Cabaye in the next fortnight.

  • 106 Belfast // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    They badly need new players like. I would be over the moon if they didn’t finish in the top four lol

  • 107 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:12 PM

    Manx

    Thanx :D

    In reality i do not think many people “love” pardew. I just think some of us do not see the benefit of sacking now. I do not think we have a top four squad yet (some would argue otherwise fair enough) i would say change him when we have a stronger squad. If others think different that is fine, there are many reasons which may validate their thinking. As long as they can debate this without insult or snide remarks all is good!

  • 108 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:13 PM

    Markus – totally agree about the whole Pardew haters call everyone Lovers should the disagree.

    I mean my point right now is who else is out there?

    As for Martinez I have a couple of Everton fan mates and they say he plays “without the handbrake on” ….. And they say its the opposite to Moyes!

    I agree, Moyes was very much a one trick pony also. Atleast Martinez and his football is good to watch, and they look the strongest I have seen them in a long time….. I know a few loan players but isn’t the Pot/Kettle given we have Remy!

  • 109 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:14 PM

    Enough of the bickering though, let’s just agree to disagree!!

    Laurent Robert

    First half was very good mate we did rip them apart and should have been out of sight in that first half, some poor finishing almost cost us!! Glad Debuchy is back hopefully MYM can slot in at CB ahead of Saylor

  • 110 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    OurToon

    Just because a manager is unemployed does not mean he is poor!

    Martinez left a division 1 club is he poor?

    Pepe was unemployed, as was Rafa, hell Sherwood has never managed first team and he is employed by Spurs!

    I think you arguments are weak.

    As for 500k a year, He gets bonuses based on position in the league! The year we finished 5th he got millions!

    And he was due £3.5m of Carroll sale but declined wanted the money reinvested in a replacement!

    Hardly a crook for not wanting MORE money like some of the others managers!

  • 111 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    Ourtoon.

    I have never used the term neggar to or about other posters. I challenge you to find one instance!

    I have on the other hand accused people of having a negative attitude towards other posters for simply not sharing an opinion.

    Finally, why do people have to either be a pardew lover or hater? I personally have no problem with him pesonally (how can i, i dont know him?) As a manager i think he is ok, with a boring but mostly effective style. There is certainly no love, and as soon as the squad is ready then he should be upgraded. With a thankyou, quite frankly.

  • 112 BandB // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:20 PM

    The way Swansea have performed this season (having strengthened) makes me sympathize more with our efforts last season, though I did enjoy our run in Europe.
    Here’s a question (not an opinion).
    Who would take a serious push for Europa League, which would mean a tense and exciting end to this season, even if next season we dropped further back into mid table for a year? If it also brought about another decent European campaign next season?
    And who would take seventh to 10th every year, and not risk it?

  • 113 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:20 PM

    Markacuss

    I agree with some of the points you make, we can go round in circles on this issue mate but to get a manager to take us into the top 4 we need that manager to be in place now, a system and certain style takes a while for players to adapt to, we can’t just buy the players and then say to Percy see you later, the new man will need to get the team playing ASAP otherwise he’s a gone!!

  • 114 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    Our Toon
    Pardew Lover?? Far far from it mate! Just because i see Laudrup as an average manager does not mean i love Pardew ffs :)
    I just think his swansea career so far barring the cup and license to spend isnt dissimilar to Pardews here
    As for there brand of football, sorry but Laudrup had very very little to do with that, that had been well established since Martinez in the lower leagues if anything they look disjointed under Laudrup

    I would love an upgrade on the manager but for me thats not Laudrup
    I also would like to see a new coach bought in if pardew is staying and is serious about pushing on

  • 115 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    well the people who want him sacked i don’t think see the whole picture of wat he’s done here and had to put up with

    we’ve got pretty much a whole new squad now since he joined and had to do it with his hands tied behind his back
    and not getting the players at the right time
    plus at the same time getting a 5th plus euro QF and doing well this season

    so for me he deserves to have a good go with this squad and i still haven’t heard any real contenders that would work under ashley and take the club forward?

  • 116 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    Pawl

    You didn’t read the whole thing, you read unemployed and jumped on it, Percy was managing in div I wasn’t going to get an opportunity in the prem and probably won’t get one again!! If you think my arguments are weak then please tell me what has Percy achieved in his career?

    Markaccus

    I apologise to you mate but you got involved in a debate between me and tads, I never referred to up you as a Percy lover but you took offence to it!! The conversation was between me and tads!!

    I wish we wouldn’t apply the handbrake in 2nd halls that’s the reason why we’ve dropped so many points!!

  • 117 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    BandB

    I’d take Europe mate, players want to be in Europe as well

  • 118 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    Our toon

    On the other hand, Ashley is not ready to spend on a euro squad (if he ever will be) so a new manager now with a new system would be pointless with no new players. Are we not still in that 5 year plan thingy?

  • 119 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    bandb a push for europe and mid table next year then winning the europa then champions league would do me :)

  • 120 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:31 PM

    Thinking of becoming a MUFC fan. I like to be miserable.

  • 121 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:33 PM

    BandB I am with Catchy I won`t be happy till we are relegated and Big Sam is back in the saddle playing proper football. Who needs Europe

  • 122 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:33 PM

    Manxpie

    Spot on mate!

    You could have copy and pasted my comment in the summer last year and it read something like that!

    1 season wonder, 1 season disaster, yet he had reasons for that disaster he deserved another go.

    I personally would have replaced him but no quarrels with keeping him I think in many respects he deserved it, no by last season but season before then having extreme circumstances in terms of injuries last season!

  • 123 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:33 PM

    BandB

    Europe. Without a doubt. If its that or 7th-10th every year.
    I would rather we could have a squad strong enough to play europe AND still fight for top 6. But thats just silly :D

  • 124 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    I for one wish more people thought like Martinez and went for it instead of being so conservative an trying not to concede . This is the case for poor PL teams or when you are playing the big boys, but the rest of the games I would like to see us try to score as many as we can .

    So many teams go to The Emirates or the Etihad and try to sit back and defend for 90 minutes and it never works . Just look at Martinez, he went to Arsenal and played them off the park in the first half and gave City a run for their money as well with a team that is on poor or marginally better than ours .

    And as for not defending when was the last time Martinez was smashed 7-0 or 7-3 playing this so called “no defending” style ? .

  • 125 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    Tequila

    Lmao. Id almost forgotten about that gem!

  • 126 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    Tads

    I’ve already said Laudrup would never have been my first choice, in the summer it would have been Martinez and then Poyet….I even like Pochettino ahead of Laudrup who is probably 5th on my list as De boer is someone I’d like us to take a punt on

    Percy has players that have mainly come from Carr and his recommendations, Percy tried deflecting the blame to Carr in the summer for the failings of the team… Wanted more of a say over transfers and that’s why JFK has come in, Percy top targets in the summer were Tomkins and Darren bent!! Love to continue this debate on lads but I have things to attend to!! All in all 3 pts in the bag what more could we ask!!

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  • 128 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    BandB
    Definitely Europe, as long as Mr.Ash funded a squad capable of balancing the league and Europe, say another 3 players
    The thing with Europe is if you can consistently qualify the more the manager and the squad can learn to deal with the extra fixtures

  • 129 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    Honestly some people on here talk so much shite

  • 130 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    Markacuss

    Yes we are in that 5 yr plan not sure what it is though!!

  • 131 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    Santon
    Thankfully we have you to contribute with mature sensible comments

  • 132 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:39 PM

    aye pawl as i say he deserves the chance and we can see the football has dramatically changed this season
    plus we still need more attacking options atleast 2 for me

    is it next year the europa winners get champions league?

  • 133 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    Marckaccas probably not his best thought out post.

  • 134 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:41 PM

    Our Toon
    Pardews targets were Tonkins and Bent?
    Funny could of swore he said he went for Llana and Long, still tomkins or taylor? Id take tomkins, and it was JFK that was meeting with Bent

  • 135 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:41 PM

    Bpc

    Like i said, his squad are good enough so that they keep the ball and attack, it just means that they are occasionally vunerable to conceding a cheap goal that might cost them points. I did also say its nice to watch, and enjoyed watching it here when kk was in charge. (remember, it DID cost us a title!) If Martinez was here, with our squad, i believe we would be much less boring, and still 8th ;)

  • 136 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:42 PM

    manx
    Aye they changed it so the winners qualify fir CL, bout f**king time like!

  • 137 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    @Toon army

    Sorry for the profanities ! But jeezo every time I come on here its the same arguments (people quoting each other blah blah blah) wish we had Danny Simpson back just to change the chat!!

  • 138 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:44 PM

    aye tads just that 1 simple change makes the whole comp better
    wonder if ashley knows that!?

  • 139 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    Tequilamag

    I find it insulting that you used the word “thought” in relation to that post at all :D

  • 140 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    Manx

    Aye

  • 141 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    hmmmm

    when did is say i want fat sam back ????

  • 142 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    Santon
    Lol aye i know mate, problem is theres no real toon news to talk about!

  • 143 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    manx

    what has changed???

    we are top of the league shooting from outside the 18Y box
    bottom of it shooting in it

    now please tell me why our strikers dont score often

  • 144 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    heruumfff heruumffff

    all the back slappers are back

    love it, o i just love it,,

  • 145 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    Mohammed Ali ?@mohammedali_93 2m
    Canal+ – Agreement between PSG and Newcastle for Cabaye – €26m, but only if #NUFC bag Remy Cabella before then.
    Retweeted by FFW

  • 146 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    Pardew is one of the top managers outside the top 6. People were raving about Di Canio, Allardyce, Lambert, Hughton and Laudrup over the summer and look at them now. Poyet is new to the PL and only doing ok so far, Pochettino is very new and only Martinez is really excelling so far.

    Martinez could drop off as many have done before but so far so good for him.

    I also disagree with comments that our squad is similar in strength to a lot of others in the PL. I find it amazing that some say this and others say we’re just a signing or two away from getting top 4. Neither are true! I say that Everton and us are the 7th and 8th strongest teams but are some way behind the top 6 and some way better than the rest.

    Of course, luck, form and some great decisions could narrow the gap to the top 6…

  • 147 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    Hahahahaha

    He’s burst back in and is now arguing about an issue that has not even been raised!

  • 148 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:54 PM

    Good evening Catchy, this afternoon you said you would rather Have Big Sam than Pardew, and I already explained your questionable stats to you. Even if 58% of shots are outside the box we still are 6th best in amount of shots so we are still creating more chances in the box than most teams, also we are 7th highest scorers so hardly not able to score at the moment. If Cisse is not scoring because of chance created why are Goffy Remy Cabaye able to hit the net on a regular basis. Also 2 of our goals were inside the box today.

  • 149 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:55 PM

    @emily__wiley: @nufcfans I like this table. “@BTSP: #STAT
    The Premier League table featuring just the Top 8 teams. (via @OptaJoe) http://t.co/r8kQRJd16e”

  • 150 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:55 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    thats your opinion

    i happen to think that we have a better squad than man u,

    theres is very overated , bunch of over hyped kids or players way to old,
    id take our MF and DF over theres any time

  • 151 Dannyo // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:56 PM

    Canal+ saying there’s an agreement between PSG and Newcastle for Cabaye – €26m, but only if #NUFC bag Remy Cabella first!

  • 152 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    See the lads are already in Abu Dhabi apparently Kinnear’s gone too but he ‘s not coming back until Feb 1st!

  • 153 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    I’m quite happy to admit that I didn’t want the Martinez that constantly had Wigan in the relegation places and finally succeeded where Mrs Doubtfire kept them mid table, I’d much rather Benitez or Hiddink but the jury is out on unproven managers, remember Gross and Ramos for Spurs.

  • 154 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    Right, i am off to watch my recorded barca match with a beer and the remains of a mixed kebab…. or is that mixed Cabaye?? ;)

    Have a good evening everyone.

  • 155 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    catchy where were you when we were winning??
    you only pop up when we lose (and tbf make silly comments about fatsam)
    catchy name our wingers that pardew has at his disposal?

  • 156 Markaccus // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:02 PM

    Tads

    Jose kinnearnho is looking in his “my first atlas” by puffin books, for a place called Yabba dabbadoo!

  • 157 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    tequilamag

    good evening to you to

    thats one way of looking it

    i see it as a waste when you shoot from that far out, we are handing them possesion back,

    also, if you check, we are 14th for playing football in the opposition half
    stoke
    villa
    sunderland
    cardiff
    hull
    there the only teams below us who play less football in the other teams half

    thats a travesty with the players we have

    pretty football going no where, because percy has no balls
    keep as many players behind the ball , and pot shots from distance

    thats all facts

  • 158 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    Does anyone know if we’ve had an offer accepted for Cabella? Does no one find it disturbing that there owner ranting about us based on the players fathers comment, surely the owner would know if we had a bid accepted?

  • 159 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:08 PM

    manxpie

    we dont have out and out wingers,

    our last one was killed by pardew,

  • 160 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    Markaccus
    Rumour has it that when Ash asked if JFK was up for Abu Dhabi he said only if it comes with a peshwari naan rice and a couple of bottles of tiger!

  • 161 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    well if we don’t have any how do you expect lots of balls into the box to supply our strikers?

  • 162 Laurent Robert 32 // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    I think Catchy is getting a rough ride with his Allardyce comment.

    He hasn’t said he wants him back.

    Look at it more of a…

    Would you like a broken hand or a broken leg scenario. You’d choose neither in reality, but I’d go for the hand if it had to be one or the other.

    In Catchy’s case, the hand is Allardyce.

    If I’ve understood it correctly of course :-D

    I don’t want either anywhere near the club, so I wouldn’t want to even hypothetically choose.

  • 163 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    Catchy not being at all selective with your stats there ?
    Try 6 away wins, not bad for a manager who likes to play in his own half and has no plan other than pot shots. Again do you realise Cabaye and Remy both scored inside the box yesterday from good build up play? You accuse others who supported Pardew as Table watchers who could not read a game yet here you are firiing off meaningless stats and the evidence you are wrong about how we get our goals was under your eyes one day ago.

  • 164 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:15 PM

    HBA has not gone to Abu Dhabi?

    Rumours of sale. Twitter

  • 165 Jeff from Benwell // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Apparently the Montpellier coach and owner’s ire is directed at Newcastle because Cabella is in Abhu Dhabi (flew in this lunchtime)
    Also rumoured to be 3 other new faces there.
    Makes sense if you think about it , a nice couple of get to know each other sessions in the sunny Middle East away from prying eyes.

  • 166 Laurent Robert 32 // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Cabaye also knows he has to look clean and shiny for the best transfer he can get, so his game will be upped a lot to make heads turn. That benefits us as he is a quality player.

    Similar goes for our other internationals with World Cup squads looming.

  • 167 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    HD
    HBA rarely seems to go on the team trips

  • 168 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    catchy

    Don’t agree on Man Utd. They are just a bit disjointed. And they have 2 truly outstanding players in RVP and Rooney. They also have a stronger squad. Smelling, Hernandez, Fletcher, Kagawa and Cleverley on the bench today.

    But RvP and Rooney haven’t played enough this season and Jones should really be playing as centre half. Unless they buy some really good players this window this will be a great chance to finish ahead of them though, certainly if Rooney and RvP struggle with injuries. Without them they just don’t gave the class up front. It would be like us with no Remy or Goofy. Actually worse…

  • 169 achtoon // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    a quote from today’s papers ‘at times their imagination was sublime, their accuracy a thing of wonder’ and ‘they played their football in beguiling triangles; flitting into telling space working the ball reducing the opposition to a bewildered scamper’ yes this was about Newcastle and our ‘average’ manager. if some one had said 4 years ago that the papers were writing this kind of stuff about us you would be saying Yes please, i’ll have that manager. Fat sams only game plan was A.Carroll who misses a sitter and gave away the free kick for our third. Love it.

  • 170 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    manxpie

    you amaze me more and more

    we dont have any wingers, so he uses a box to box MF and a forward for them

    emmmm why not play with players like marv and hba in possitions there good at, CAM,
    let them roam
    play 2 AMC behind a CF, our squad has more of these type players
    marv
    HBA
    cabaye
    anita
    tiote
    sissoko
    between them 6, we have great defensive and attacking , by playing them out of possition, we lose there main strengths, the reasons why we signed them

  • 171 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    tequilla i’ve said it before about catchy calling us table watchers then reels of loads of tables of stats irony hey?

  • 172 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    To be Fair

    Allardyce has achieved more than Percy

  • 173 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:20 PM

    ,Manx don`t get me wrong mate I like watching tables as much as the next man, Catchy had me sussed there.

  • 174 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:20 PM

    JFA

    Well said. And we were never going to get Hiddink or Benitez unless we offered very big wages and a big transfer budget. We need a manager who buys into the owner’s philosophy of a slow and steady build up.

    We fans may wish the excitement of a European push but unless we build up properly, it only ends up being a flash in the pan.

  • 175 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    David Moyes was successful playing the long ball to Fellini who would win everything behind the striker, I find it astonishing that he can’t find a place for Kagawa in that team or Hernandez who I’d take in heart beat!!

  • 176 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:24 PM

    I’ll be shocked if Cabaye goes this Jan. Makes no sense for us to sell him unless it’s stupid money (£30M+) and doesn’t make sense for him to risk losing momentum with the WC coming up.

  • 177 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    rvp and rodney, are both class players, and would walk into a lot of teams

    smalling
    cleverly
    jones
    evens
    wellbeck

    are still young, but way over hyped
    janazi kid is special

    kagawa, was good in germany, but carnt do anything over here

    rafa and fabio, are not that good

    anderson, he has been poor for a long time

    felanni looks like a fish out of water

    evera vidic and ferdinand way past there best,

  • 178 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Tequila
    Little bit of eye candy for ya!

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  • 179 Laurent Robert 32 // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Achtoon, of course now and then they will play like that, they are a very good set of players in my opinion, regardless of who is managing them.

    Faye Downey could be the reason behind the improved performances as the players are fitter, therefore can perform better regardless of the poor training which Jonas and other players have highlighted. That and World Cup squads, plus the lack of being in any cups.

    Remember, it was for the first half, not the full game. Second half, we resorted to a lack of offensive determination, which led to indecision. Indecision leads to poor passing. They looked more determined in the second half as well.

    This is over the long term, not a few months.

    If Pardew can regularly get is playing like that first half in a number of games, creating chances in the box and scoring, then great.

    The fact is, it rarely lasts a full game.

  • 180 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    What a joke club…

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25779113

  • 181 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:29 PM

    so your formation would be 4111111 then catchy?
    arfa has been the worst culprit for wild long shots this season
    marv has been shocking imo shirks any type of contact and only looks bothered for a few mins each game

    and have you been watching the games??
    cabeye and anita are in the middle
    and how can you drop tiote with the form he’s been in all season
    you can only field 11 players

  • 182 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:29 PM

    Barca dropped pts would love to see athletico Madrid win the league

  • 183 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    Tads, you always Know where to find the good stuff.

  • 184 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    i know deep down you all know im right,,

    but because most of you are sheep, you follow your heard , patting each other on the back,

    i think its called hoop kissing,, and your all good at it,,

    your all very negative people by nature, and stick with what you have ,because your scared of chnage

  • 185 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    On the Cabaye situation, I think he would only leave if the club he was going to guarantee him a spot in the starting 11 as he will have the world cup on his mind .

  • 186 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    TDS

    Do you think Ji got a fair crack at the scum?

  • 187 HullMag6 // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:35 PM

    Montpellier – bravado before the white flag so typical.

    I’d only let cabs go if both de Jong brothers are coming in siem for cabs, luuk for shola and cabella for remy.

  • 188 Jeff from Benwell // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    catchy

    I love that Rodney fella too.
    Do you mean Rodney Trotter ?
    or HMS Rodney
    or Wayne Rodney

  • 189 achtoon // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:37 PM

    LR32 yes and the manager set them up to play that way and we have done that more than not this season. the fact is WHU changed the way they played and everytime they got the ball in the 2nd half they launched it to Carroll which left our midfield cut out of the game. when anitta came off and Ameobi came on i wonder what pardew was doing but we did take control back of the game for the last 20 mins and you seem to forget we won 3-1. if we had lost i may have agreed with you. I was at the 6-0 thrashing by liverpool last season and i wanted Pardew out but i’ve been very impressed this season. we’ve had two or three games were we were shocking but i believe that was down to players with their eyes on biggers games.

  • 190 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    manx

    who said play 4111111111111111111111

    thats in your world that

    what i said is we have great AMC, so why play wingers

    HBA has played less football than both sissoko and goofy but has more goals and assists than both,

    infact, try watching the games, and you will see , goofy is at fault for not picking up his runners in quite a few games lately,, not just one or 2 games

    your manager, will not venture far from his purple players, and runs them into the ground

    go on tell me how many time the williamson free kick/corners has worked now????

  • 191 toonbarmy // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Jeff where did the rumour come from about 4 players being in Abu Dhabi? Hope it’s true though and also who would you guys like the other 3 to be but realistic of course

  • 192 Laurent Robert 32 // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:39 PM

    Here’s something for you. Ginola wouldn’t get in a Pardew team I don’t think.

    Ben Arfa tracks back a lot more than Robert did, who in turn did a bit more than the brilliant Mr. Ginola. All are flair players in their own way.

    Yet both players were part of a style of playing which used attack as defence which is a far more effective way of gaining points, if you possess the right players.

    We possess those players so it should be a no brainer to do it regardless of the opposition. Instead, we only see glimmers of what could be. Yesterdays first half was a little window to the possible. I want to pull up a chair and continue to see an improved version of that world.

  • 193 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:42 PM

    Catchy

    Yet Fellaini is class and was excellent for Everton, I just don’t know why they bought him if he wouldn’t fit in with their style of play!

    Compare our whole squad:
    Krul v de Gea
    Elliott v Lindegaard
    Santon v Evra
    Haidara v Buttner
    Debuchy v Rafael
    Dummett v Fabio
    Colo v Jones
    Willo v Vidic
    Saylor v Evans
    MYM v Smalling
    Streete v Ferdinand
    Tiote v Carrick
    HBA v Januzaj
    Cabaye v Fellaini
    Sissoko v Cleverley
    Anita v Fletcher
    Marv v Kagawa
    Gosling v Giggs
    Obertan v Valencia
    Sammy v Young
    Vuckic v Zaha
    Goofy v Wellbeck
    Remy v Rooney
    Cisse v RvP
    Shola v Hernandez

    Looks good with some but they just have more proven PL players than us.

  • 194 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:43 PM

    Catchy Goofy has 6 goals HBA 3
    1500 /900 mins

  • 195 bills-son // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    toonbarmy,

    No way will clubs allow players we haven’t signed to go to Abu Dhabi.

    The rumour is nonsense.

  • 196 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    Tequila
    Dont tell every one, thats my secret stash

  • 197 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    Our Toon

    Probably not. I don’t care really, I just like laughing at them. Turn down £5Min the summer, let him go for pittance now and the CL runners up sign him for free next summer!

  • 198 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    In fairness to all involved I can see both sides of this argument and both have merit.

    - I feel we do waste good possession by having long shots due to not getting enough players in the final third/opposition box
    ****not every game though, it’s a bit hit and miss****

    - we don’t attack some teams enough and do seen to try and hold a goal lead, my personal view (and what a lot, not all though, top managers do) is to keep going and trying to out the game to bed, even if it’s a counter attack which I don’t think we do well

    - we need to really attack some weaker sides like hull, West brom and even Swansea more than we did as it lets them play their game too easily when we contain

    - we are scoring goals, maybe not as many as everyone would like, but when we do attack in numbers our passing and running in behind is very good

    - I think ultimately we can get more from the team but there is progression with Pardews style, even if it’s slower than people want there is some progression

    - Ashley has never shown he will appoint a better manager in the past so not sure why people would expect him to do so next time, he scouts players well but managers not so much

    Ultimately our season is average, we wasted the chance of progression in the FA cup by not playing remy (our main goal threat), but in the league we are going quite well.

    The only shame with the league is we have wasted our victories over top sides like Chelsea, spurs and man utd by chucking points away with timid displays against the likes of hull, west brom and west ham (home game).

  • 199 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:45 PM

    Bills
    Unless a fee has been agreed and he’s there to discuss terms, as DOF im sure JFK is with them
    But i agree more than likely a load of bollox

  • 200 Novocastrian66 // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:47 PM

    Laurent Robert 32. I think Hatem Ben Arfa’s biggest problem is his fitness. He’s a class act no doubt. Not sure if he’s a 90 minute man at the moment, which is a shame, and means he cannot start.

  • 201 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:47 PM

    TDS

    The only man utd players I’d take for our starting line up would be evra, janujazi, van persie and Rooney.

    I accept they have more quality through the squad but I think our starting 11 is a good match, they just have 2 world class forwards who carry the side.

  • 202 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:49 PM

    TS 198 fair comments.
    I would take \\Hernandez as well, he is a poacher like Cisse except he seems pretty good at it.

  • 203 jayphoto // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    Really don’t know what to make of a cabella in, cabaye out scenario… Cabaye is the better player atm, but wants to leave and cabella has the potential to be Twice the player cabaye is, he could really become world class but isn ‘t there yet !
    Cabella also plays much further forward thsn cabaye which will make us more offensive…
    Ideally we’d have cabella with tiote and cabaye behind him!
    Bottom line is i suppose that cabaye wants ro leave and can apparantly be bought out of his contract for 8m in the summer?

  • 204 Jeff from Benwell // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:51 PM

    Toonbarmy
    A mate who works there at Khalifa University was meeting his missus off the flight from Paris and spotted JFK with whom he thought at first was Debuchy but he was told later it was RC.
    He’s blind as a bat but swore down that he was at Yas island and saw at least 3 new faces.
    texted me about 3 hours ago

  • 205 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:52 PM

    Laurent

    For me it comes down how you want the team to play. Look at Chelsea, mata got 20 goals last year and was one of the best players in the prem league, Jose won’t pick him, not even as a sub most weeks and Chelsea are better off now that last season.

    Each manager has his own style and some let mavericks play and have freer roles, others demand harder work/defensive duties.

    Mourinho let ronaldo do as he please as he was a massive massive talent but he doesn’t see mata as a sacrifice worth making to the set up of the team.

    I see the arguments for Ben arfa, and would love to find a way to incorporate him into the team but he’s been like this his whole career, always something holding him back…attitude, fitness, application, he always has a problem and he isn’t a world class talent like ronaldo who you accept, he’s just a good player…so pardew won’t put him before the team…rightly or wrongly.

  • 206 bills-son // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    ManU last two signings Zaha and Fellaini cost £42M and they can’t get a game.

    Moyes signing Fellaini for £27M won’t be giving the Glazers much confidence in backing him with the big dosh ManU need to sort themselves out.

  • 207 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    Tequila

    I’d love Hernandez in, he’s a great finisher and always finds space in the box, has a good turn of pace too, seen him beating men on the wing before. Would be worth a cheeky 10mil offer, see what happens. Worst thing they do is say no.

    I just wanted to back catchy up with my comment, I don’t always agree with him, or agree with the extent of his criticism, but he does make a lot of valid points I feel even if I feel some are over the top.

  • 208 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    TS

    Starting 11 is a good match…I’ll agree there

    But I’d have Jones alongside Colo is central defence too. Evra over Santon, midfield 3 of Tiote, Cabaye and one other (Sissoko/Anita/Carrick/Valencua/Young/Fletcher) and up front Januzaj, RvP and Rooney

  • 209 toonbarmy // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    Bills I totally agree wit what you are saying, am just optimistic that we will sign players even wit our dof and owner being clowns

  • 210 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    Sage
    Found a nice larchlap panel next to ibiza i see! ;)

    LR32
    I think, for me anyway, Robert would get in
    I havent personally heard Pardew mentioning HBA needing to track back for a long long time
    What i have heard is him talk about his discipline and decision making and how he needs to learn when to keep it simple and when to turn on the magic, for me he hasnt learnt this yet
    HBA’s attitude would be perfect for a number 10 i just dont think he has the skills to play there (aka his decision making)
    Also think his fitness could be questionable
    But i dont believe he’s not playing because he doesnt sit on debuchy for 90 mins and surely should only have to cover a minimal time when debs goes on one of those fantastic marauding runs down the wing?

    Just my opinion of course but great little discussion starter there mate!

  • 211 Laurent Robert 32 // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    Novo, playing sub every week won’t be giving him the practice he needs though.

    To me, he should be celebrated for what he can do, not left out because he can’t defend very well. Which is why I make the Ginola comparison.

    If Ginola was out of the team playing here now, similar things would be said probably. You wouldn’t know what he could be doing, because he is getting highlighted for not defending or making mistakes when taking people on.

    Put him (like Ben Arfa) in a totally positive team with a quality manager and I’m sure he will be a joy to watch.

    Again, my opinion. He is a great talent and an attacking one, that should be developed.

  • 212 toonbarmy // Jan 19, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    We’ll hope we pull it off Jeff and it’s good to hear news about potential signings

  • 213 mindshaft // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Canal+ apparantly reporting £26 million fee agreed between toon and psg for Cabaye is done dependant on toon signing replacement

  • 214 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    Big big difference between Ginola and Arfa ! Ginola did actually track back and win the ball quite a bit and the most important bit was that he delivered quality into the box which Arfa rarely does !

    Ginola used to beat the fullback and whip it in Arfa rarely does this he has it in his locker to be a great left winger but is just not a team player enough

    Its a tired debate about Arfa tracking back etc because at the end of the day there is far far better players than Arfa who do so much more on a pitch offensively and defensively just look at the work rate from Rooney, Suarez, Messi, Ronaldo , Xavi and Cabaye for example!!

    They make more chances than he does and contribute to the team why should he be exempt from a little bit elbow grease??

  • 215 Laurent Robert 32 // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    Le Tissier didn’t used to run much, but he was great to watch and had product.

    Although I would balance a side, I’d fill it with players who have product for their area. Having Nobby and Robert under Sir Bobby was great. Both could cross and both could score. Same for Speedo. That was my gripe with Jonas last year. He was playing poorly but still playing. Same with Cisse, if he has no service, he won’t score.

    Sissoko did with with his cross yesterday, but they are usually wayward over over hit if you watch. That is because he is a defensive midfielder who is playing as a winger (in order for him to defend better).

    He can transport the ball well, that’s when he should be giving it to the flair players not being the one at the end of the move.

  • 216 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    Bills,
    Do you think Moyes unremarkable record at Old Trafford justifies the way Mashley sh!ts on Pardew.
    Jeff from benwell
    Shut it !

  • 217 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM

    TDS

    Phil Jones, really? I was very impressed with the lad at blackburn but I think 2 seasons of injuries and mixed positions have done him no good.

    I’m really sick of these overhyped kids at top clubs getting international call ups when good players like michael dawson doesn’t get a chance even though he is a key member of one of the best defenses in the league.

    Perfect example is jonjo shelvey, terrible at liverpool, played every other match and did very little, gets and england call up. Moves to swansea and starts looking a better player and taking on responsibility, still not great but much better than he was and not never even mentioned with england…..hate the way we select players for the national side.

    It’s always a mix of the best players and players from big clubs instead of setting out a style of play to suit our best 2/3 players and picking the rest to compliment them.

  • 218 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:15 PM

    jay

    Im unsure on the story about cabaye buying himself out of his contract, i’m sure there is more to it as you never her anyone else do it and surely more players would if they wanted to get big moves.

  • 219 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:15 PM

    Canal+ rumours garbage. Spotting 4 new players at our training camp garbage. Move along…

  • 220 jayphoto // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    Not fussed whether Benny tracks back or not! Worst thing about him is the decisions he makes when he has the ball at his feet! When to shoot/pass/dribble! Can ‘t teach decision making! Hes 26/27 now, a senior player, and if hes still constantly making the wrong choices i doubt thats going to change now

  • 221 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:18 PM

    TS

    I think Jones will be a top centre half.

    The problem with players not with top clubs is that they aren’t as used to playing with top players. Shelvey has been playing as a number 10 with a virtually free role recently. I could hardly imagine him displacing Rooney…although he should be considered for the squad.

    Lallana and Lambert got in.

  • 222 bills-son // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:20 PM

    Jail

    The two are totally unconnected.

  • 223 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:20 PM

    hi guys iv’e heard rumours that AP could be heading back to WHU is this true or is someone winding us up.

    on the other hand is it good for Newcastle or not?

    i don’t like Pardews style of play he has inflicted on Newcastle and i can’t stand the bloke, but surely this is the wrong time for us to change managers right?

    or with us being save in the PL maybe a change could be good well depending on what manager want’s to come here with MA & JFK in charge.

  • 224 Schwefelberg // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:22 PM

    Gouffran is a very under rated player. I hope busybody Wenger doesn’t make a shock bif for him.

  • 225 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:22 PM

    TDS

    but that’s down to southampton being flavour of the month and llana playing so well he has to be in the side really…he’s a very big talent.

    I get that point but these players in smaller clubs who are playing very well and doing well are surely better than bang average lads who know rooney.

    For me Rooney should be england’s out and out striker, not number 10. The one year he did that for man utd he got 40 goals in the season….but for some reason englnd use him as a number ten, fair enough at man utd as they have van persie as main man but england use welbeck

  • 226 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:24 PM

    TDS

    I’d also hope Jones does become a top CB, I just think he wil always be a utility man and it won’t do him any good, he needs to get away from man utd.

  • 227 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:24 PM

    Laurent Robert 32

    Sissoko is an box to box player not a DM, he can play virtually every where except full back, CB, ST, GK

  • 228 JAMSHA // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:25 PM

    @CentreTransfer : BREAKING: Newcastle
    have agreed to sell Yohan Cabaye to
    PSG for €26m only if they secure the
    transfer of Remy Cabella. (Canal+)

    still dnt belive it

  • 229 Jeff from Benwell // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:26 PM

    Toonbarmy
    This mate has a French wife and speaks the lingo like a native and is usually really clued up on transfers.
    The last time we had a session on the sauce was the last Saturday in 2012 in London when the Arse mashed us 7 – 3.
    On that occasion he named MYM Sissoko Debuchy and Gouffran and everyone thought he was mad ,4 weeks later bingo.The only one he never mentioned was Haidara

  • 230 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:29 PM

    TS

    Rooney gets on the ball more as a number 10. I’d be happy for him to be up front for England but who provides the creativity then? That’s why Wellbeck and Cleverley will be in the squad…at least they understand Rooney.

    I do feel sad that the closest we have to an England player at the WC is about the 12th choice centre half…

  • 231 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:29 PM

    jamsha

    just had a look on their twitter feed and they posted something about arsenal activating diago costa’s buy out clause which was instantly dismissed by arsenal….they are clearly full of crap.

  • 232 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:31 PM

    Jeff

    I believe you…

    …well, as far as I could throw you anyway.

    With that kind of stone clad tip, I hope you’ve put a few thousand on it at the bookies. I suspect not…

  • 233 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:31 PM

    TDS

    Jack wilshire as a number 10..or adam llana (some of his passing and asists this year have been so so good, remember his cut back to lambert when he was through on goal, i never saw that pass even on the 4th replay haha).

    England have bags of creativity though, the two i mentioned above, barkley, carrick, townsend, lennon, sturridge is also good.

    England aren’t as bad as many pundits want us to elieve

  • 234 Laurent Robert 32 // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    B & W with an army. He’s not a typical winger where crosses can be relied upon I mean.

    I like Sissoko a lot. But not as a winger. He’ll look good up to a point with his pace and power, but that is when you need players that can deliver with quality.

  • 235 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    Jamsha
    What do you think Montpellier are going to want for cabella if they know we have 26mill in the bank.
    Would be amazed if Cabs was to leave us in this transfer window+ Hasn’t he stated himself that he has a gentleman’s agreement in place till the summer

  • 236 JAMSHA // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    Transfer Sage

    hope so its bull**** we cnt loose cabaye at the moment

  • 237 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:41 PM

    jazzyp

    same situation with the Carroll deal, he stated he wouldn’t leave Newcastle and look how that turned out in the dying hours of the transfer deadline

  • 238 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:42 PM

    don’t worry lads we have OBERTAN to replace cabaye ;)

  • 239 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:42 PM

    jazzy

    i think regardless of whether we have 26mil in the bank they will still ask for the same value, they’ll have a price they want and will ask for that i’m sure.

  • 240 Mister Tuff // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:44 PM

    Bit arrogant by some to dismiss a posters information because they do not believe it -not because they have evidence to suggest otherwise.
    No-one can prove or disprove the players in Abu Dhabi story. But the pomposity of some posters displays an arrogance beyond belief. Waiting another 10-11 days to the end of the window surely would be the time to run your gobs.

  • 241 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:44 PM

    jamsha

    I doubt we’d sell him now but whenever we lose him it will be difficult to replace him.

    I think he has become a big player this season and will be hard to replace, but i guess this happens to all teams except the elite couple of sides.

  • 242 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

    i can only imagine MA selling Cabaye for 26 million and then miss out on Cabella lol :)

  • 243 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

    TS

    Both very good but Lallana has limited experience of international/European football and Wilshere seems to keep getting injured.

    England are pretty bad compared to the top sides. Rooney and Baines have to be the only truly top players going off this season’s form. Sure Barkley looks great but is inexperienced. We’ll get torn apart this summer.

    Still, I’d rather take more of the young players, set expectations low and build for the future.

  • 244 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:47 PM

    tuff

    who rattled your cage :-)

  • 245 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:47 PM

    tuff

    Agree, can always choose not to believe the info but anyone who posts, well in my experience and from what I hear, usually means well and is just sharing something they know, even if it isn’t reliable.

    It’s impossible to have concrete evidence for all these things.

  • 246 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:47 PM

    Black and White
    TS
    I believe if the Fat cockerel Knows we have sold Cabs for that much money he will play hardball.
    I can see it going down to the wire and a few mind games in the midst.
    We can rule Ba out of this window as Mourinho has ruled out letting him leave because of torres injury

  • 247 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM

    tuff is the sites moderator sage is the sites mediator haha

  • 248 Mister Tuff // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:51 PM

    wolfshead -been busy doing jobs -but keeping an occasional eye on what was being discussed – basically for any transfer stories – which I 100% think there will be.

  • 249 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:52 PM

    Tuff
    A player is not allowed to speak to another club unless both parties have agreed upon a fee for that certain player. And as the Fat cockerel hasn’t even received an offer……I doubt this story to be true my friend

  • 250 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:52 PM

    TDS

    do you really think we will get battered? I think, providing we actually have a go at teams like we did in our last two group games we have a good chance to progress to the quarter final stage.

    I can’t remember the mans name now, but he is a spanish journalist who did sunday supplement on sky a few weeks ago (much better than the boring english journos who trot out the same lines every week) and he said that nobody wants to play england, they don’t fear us like we fear spain but they do know how dangerous we can be.

    I’d like to see england go out in a blaze of glory than a whimper like the last tournament.

    I still think if you take hart, baines, cahill, jagielka, walker, carrick llana, wilshire then rooney, sturridge and townsend you have a very dangerous side.

    Add to that gerrard, barkley, defoe and a few others and I think we can really have a go at teams.

  • 251 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM

    Mister Tuff

    I think I’ll risk putting my neck on the line for this one. Happy to pay my penance if I’m proven wrong…

    4 new players are with our squad yet none of them have signed? You really think they would let them join up with our lot before the deal was done?

    I’ll be very happy to eat my hat if this is right. But if I knew it to be true, I’d put a huge bet on, not blab it on a blog…

  • 252 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM

    jazzy

    Not true, the club just needs to give the player permission to speak, a few doesn’t need to have been agreed.

    If montpellier say we can chat with cabella then we can, make sure he wants to come, we can agree terms then thrash out a price after…no real order needs to be done to it, as long as people give permission

  • 253 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    tuff sounds serious im bored now

  • 254 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    TS

    Be realistic…there are people who post with good intentions and people who post to get attention and to be the big man for a change. I won’t pander to the latter.

  • 255 Mister Tuff // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    wolfshead @247 – well spoken words – I to like to think I am the voice of reason. if you do not agree -in the meantime please accept my card—————————————————- well probably not -that joke was getting a bit stale – but nevertheless a good one.

  • 256 bills-son // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    Tuff talk from one of the bairns tonight.

    Too much cheap booze going to their little head.

  • 257 JAMSHA // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:56 PM

    iv would set 40mil asking pricefor cabaye. if any clubs are intrested so they can stop bidding

  • 258 toonbarmy // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:57 PM

    I understand people being sceptical on what Jeff is stating but if it does come through then we would all be over the moon, let’s see what happens but I don’t think we should belittle the guy for bringing news to us! It is the same as reading the papers it is upto you if you want to believe it. Jeff keep bringing the news

  • 259 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:57 PM

    TDS

    true, but it does no harm to us if they post, just read the info and either take it in or ignore it, I’m sure we will see who is right or wrong at the end.

    I personally don’t think that would happen as journo’s will be around and about, selling photo’s to british papers and it would be spotted very easily.

  • 260 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    this is tuffers giving out his cards lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoIvd3zzu4Y

  • 261 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM

    jamsha

    I like what dortmund have done this year, could have cashed in on lewandowski for 20mil but decided he would be better served keeping him for at least another year which leaves him with one year left….we might have improved enough for him to stay but if not we still get another year out of him.

  • 262 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM

    TS

    You’re struggling there though, start with that lot and then who? Beyond Rooney and Sturridge who else do we have up front? US bound Defoe? Back-up goalie? 3rd/4th choice centre halves?

    The only outfield player with the class and experience to make thing happen is Rooney. Especially now Walcott is out.

  • 263 Mister Tuff // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM

    jazzy – you are right that other clubs should not approach another clubs players without permission -the old tapping up rule.
    However -they all do it -but no-one has been sanctioned for it by the authorities -we had a debate on here about it sometime ago.

  • 264 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:02 PM

    toonbarmy

    I always say that, any gossip is welcome ,true or not, it’s good to read.

    If you only want official news read the official site.

  • 265 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:04 PM

    the fact it comes from someone called jeff says alot tho lads
    remember the 10 y/o indian boy called jeff?

  • 266 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:05 PM

    TS

    If someone wants to post ‘news’ on this blog then the rest of us have the right to comment on it. It doesn’t just have to be positive comments or thanks.

    It’s not “news” as toonbarmy puts it, it’s just gossip. And I never believe transfer gossip on a Sunday…

  • 267 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:05 PM

    If fellaini is worth 27mill. Surely by pure logic, Cabaye is worth more.

    How much? I am not sure… but definitely more than Fellaini. If he was going to be sold, I would not settle for less.

  • 268 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:05 PM

    TDS

    i like aaron lennon, defoe is still here til end of feb, so only a couple months of easier football…might keep him fresh not tired.

    You have jay rodriguez scored 10 goals this season playing good football.

    For a tournament you only really need 15 players, and then get lucky with injuries, spain played pretty much the same 11 during each of the last 3 tournaments they won (i mean same 11 from game one to the final, not in each tournament).

    And I think our starting 11 can pose a big threat to anyone, we also have a good 3/4/5 subs to chose from as well.

  • 269 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:07 PM

    TDS

    true you don’t need to but no need to put somebody down who might be sharing what he believes to be genuine (even if it turns out not to be).

    Most stuff we read here is gossip, very little genuine news on this site, it’s just a bit of harmless fun.

  • 270 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:07 PM

    So what’s the great news; has Fulham finally signed Obertan? :D

  • 271 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    Tuff
    Thankyou mate.Unless Montpellier are putting on an act.I doubt very much if Cabella is in the mix with the toon players while at boot camp.
    Would love it to be true mate……But I canna see it

  • 272 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    My brother’s friend’s hairdresser’s boyfriends’s cat said that Ronaldo is going to buy himself out of his contract this summer and join us for free. He also said that TS likes being tied up and spanked by two 50 year old male midget twins while having his nads electrocuted.

    Just gossip mind…

  • 273 Mister Tuff // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    wolfshead -@270 -a much better quality effort form yourself -however I did not like the “psycho” association or their cards. A simple card promising a damn good thrashing should suffice.

  • 274 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:11 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    you made my day mate flucking epic :)

  • 275 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:11 PM

    TS

    It’s not genuine. Do you really want this site flooded with ITKs again?

    Like you said, I couldn’t believe that not one journo tracked these players and papped the lot of them.

  • 276 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/9123998/transfer-news-montpellier-boss-urges-remy-cabella-to-shun-newcastle

    A little more on cabella.

    Anyway lads and lasses it’s been a good evening’s chat, probably have some news/gossip of my own tomorrow, speaking to my mate at the club in the morning so will see what he says, if anything, been very quiet when we last spoke.

  • 277 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    Strange that because as soon as somebody posts something they believe to be true, People are soon upon them to correct them to look like the bigger man

  • 278 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM

    TS

    Midget time? Enjoy…

  • 279 JAMSHA // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:14 PM

    Transfer Sage

    lets hope we quali for cl wich is posdible.. i still belive we can fight for 4th if we win our nxt two games… suerly we could see cabaye nxt season….

  • 280 Mister Tuff // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:17 PM

    jazzyp – truth is we do not know -the story MAY sound improbable -but none of the rest of us know for sure.
    After wasting many hours of my life checking out numerous “press” based transfer rumours about the Toon -with most turning out to be utter garbage -it may be wise to entertain some scepticism in ones’ own mind -but to retain that tiny thought it might be true.

  • 281 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:18 PM

    4th is a pipe dream. City, Chelski and Arsenal surely will be the top 3 in some order and there are 4 other clubs in better positions to get 4th. Odds of about 100/1 I’d say…

  • 282 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:20 PM

    Mister Tuff

    I don’t read most transfer gossip and block many sites from NewsNow because I know their level of journalism. I also read no transfer gossip on a Sunday. I know how to smell a rat…and this one has a long tail and sharp teeth…

  • 283 toonbarmy // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:21 PM

    TDS for me personally I don’t mind rumours and with what Jeff has stated if it were true he can say I told you so and if it wasn’t then he can laugh at the people he sucked in with it but with this just being a blog I prefer hearing rumours of who we may sign as it gets the imagination going on what they would bring to the team but unrealistic one like messi and so on take with a pinch of salt! Like I said Jeff keep bringing the news as I like to read the rumours and I hope we do make 4 signings as well, if you could get the other 3 players names it would be greatly appreciated

  • 284 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:24 PM

    Tuff
    Agree mate None of us on this blog can confess to know the ins and outs of nufc . And most of us come on here for some juicy gossip……especially around transfer time. I for one even at work am constantly monitoring all sites for that first bit of news that we may be actually signing somebody.
    I can remember this time last year our transfer policy went in to overdrive with the recruitment of all the French contingent .And hopefully Mashley can put a big smile on our faces again by doing the same thing

  • 285 Mister Tuff // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:27 PM

    oops nearly missed the typical booho bills post – yet another jibe -sneaking on -not offering anything to the debate being discussed. An opportunity for a sniping dig. You remind me of the short arse loudmouth wimp -standing at the back of a crowd -shouting encouragement for others to fight -but when the attention turns to you – your off like a shot.

  • 286 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:29 PM

    Toonbarmy

    I could make up a story about my mate’s friend who is an estate agent got a call from someone in Germany to look for an expensive flat to rent ASAP. I have the imagination to create all sorts of waffle. Apparently Colo has been told he can go this summer on condition of acting as the South American scout for us and his Dad has already used his contacts to arrange for 2 top youngsters to be joining us this summer in order to let Colo go.

    And then there’s the one about the loan deal with Remy having a £6M clause in it if QPR don’t get promoted.

    Easy to come up with this stuff…

  • 287 JackButler // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:29 PM

    We all know that if PSG have indeed offered 26 million Euro’s for Cabaye then he’ll be off…………………………….Christ Ashley would sell his own kids for that

  • 288 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM

    JB

    Never believe transfer gossip on a Sunday!

    I find it ridiculous that this one media outlet should have the only source for such big news and that it just happens to be on a Sunday…

    I think that lot have form…so I don’t trust anything they say…

  • 289 JP...from The Rock // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM

    The imminent sale of Cabaye to PSG looks likely now. 26M Euros is a fair price and a huge profit being made considering we bought him for only 5M Pounds.

    PSG is his favourite club, buying loads of talented players and Blanc has openly admitted his admiration of Cabaye.

    Cabella is a slight improvement on Cabaye, in dribbling, and versatility.

    The issues I have with this are;

    1- Why can’t we keep both?

    2- Who is going to score our free kicks now?

    3- Does this mean Debuchy will now want a move?

  • 290 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    Show me a single reputable source: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=canal%2B+cabaye&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#hl=en&q=canal%2B+cabaye&tbs=qdr:d

  • 291 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:40 PM

    JP

    Don’t be daft. It’s Sunday. It’s almost certainly garbage and we’ve been here many times before…

  • 292 toonbarmy // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    TDS

    I understand being sceptical especially on a Sunday due to the drivel put in the papers just to sell them and also people just making stuff up! I remember when the toon were supposedly going to sign rivaldo when bobby was in charge and as I was only young I thought we were really going to do it! Naive I know but I do like rumours and hope Jeff isn’t pulling our leg! No ones opinion will ever be the same but it always makes a good debate. It like match day when after the game over a few pints you discuss the game

  • 293 manxpie // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:44 PM

    thats strange vidics tackle was worse than mbwias but supposedly last week motd all pundits said it was straight red but only a yellow for vidics on tonights motd

  • 294 beddersmag // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    my mate was at jesmond dene house this week and met joe kinnear who was “generally mouthing off”. One thing he said was that him and Pardew both want to sell HBA and Cisse as none of the other players like them. Sounds weird but trust his word

  • 295 JP...from The Rock // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    TDS- there’s nothing daft about it, very possible indeed. I hope you’re right and it is paper talk, as you say it is Sunday after all.

    Answer this though, if it were true would you prefer to lose Cabaye now and get big money with Cabella coming in?…or would you risk Cabaye or PSG buying out his contract for only 6M and possibly losing the chance to sign Cabella as his replacement?

    I personally wish it all ends well and we sign Cabella and Cabaye signs an extension :)

  • 296 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    toonbarmy

    Discussing subjective decisions is one thing but making stuff up to make people speculate on it is just childish.

    Jeff was pulling our leg. I’ll change my name to DirtyMonkeyMackem for a week if he was right…

  • 297 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    JP

    I don’t buy this buying our contract stuff either. That should be dealt with already. It’s not in Cabaye’s interest to leave with the WC coming up.

  • 298 JP...from The Rock // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    TDS – I know it’s not in his best interests with the WC looming but stranger things have happened.

    On the other hand if Cabaye stays and Cabella signs we will be well equipped concerning midfielders.

    A striker and perhaps a proper out and out winger and we will have one of the best squads in the league.

  • 299 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:07 PM

    Alan Hansen talking about how predictable Swansea are pointless passes , press them high and they dont know what to do …. SOUND FAMILIAR???

  • 300 toonbarmy // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:12 PM

    TDS

    I’ll hold you to that! ha ha. I don’t think we will sell cabaye just yet but it wouldn’t surprise me if he goes in the summer, I will say I am hoping for 2-3 players coming in with no major losses, we need another creative spark to help the team and so we don’t rely on cabaye alone, a winger who can cross and has pace and finally another striker to ease the burden remy is carrying as the only striker scoring at the moment! Oh and being greedy remy on a permanent basis

  • 301 BandB // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:19 PM

    Toon Darn Sarf,

    Last October I asked you whether you thought getting into Europe should be among our ambitions for this season if possible, and you suggested you’d take Europe every time.
    You may recall I said I’d remember that you’d said it.
    So why do you now think it’s just a pipe-dream for the over-excitable?

  • 302 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:39 PM

    Yes! Alan Hansen has always been an idiot ;) lol

  • 303 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 20, 2014 at 12:04 AM

    Quite a lot of rumours about Cabaye leaving all over Twitter it will be a sad day when he does leave just got to hope it does not demoralise the squad as a lot of the Frenchies are here because of him

    We also struggle for any kind of fluency when he does not play in fact our midfield 3 combo of Tiote , Anita and Cabs is one of the best in the league Cabella may prove to be just as good mind you if we get him

  • 304 TurkishFan101 // Jan 20, 2014 at 12:12 AM

    Hey lads!

    Haven’t been on for a while due to University overload and studies. Been looking around and reading about the transfer rumours. Cabella would be a great transfer but if it means we get him, it means we will not get Seim De Jong, Luuk’s brother as Cabella and Seim are both considered as Attacking midfielder, just behind the striker but as well as in front of 2 defensive midfielders.

    Luuk De Jong deal looks pretty likely, but seems Borussia Mönchengladbach are holding out till they get a replacement first before off loading him to us.

    If Cabaye does end up going, Cabella will not be his replacement as in the player type, but positional wise, it make sense as it would mean Cabella goes straight to the Number 10 role. We would still buy some young prospect maybe like Fofana, but we already have likes of Anita, which has made our midfield look immense, his like our little Iniesta, a magician.

    Remy for me is a no go, he should be lucky we took a chance on him while he had that “Rape” case going on and its still active without no response yet? He disrespected our club again when he clearly said he will be going to a Champions League club, merely using us as a “stepping stone”.

    I genuinely believe, Cisse is better player then Remy, the statistics prove that barely anyone gets to shoot in the oppositions half, as we are the team that shoots most out of the box, which leaves poacher type striker Cisse no chance at all to get the goals he used to when the tactics were set up differently in the season we finished 5th. So with the addition of Luuk (hopefully) its only going to be a matter of time before Cisse will start to bang them in, and also if there was to be some sort of partnership between Luuk and Cisse, that would be immense.

    The way I look at this, Pardew is going for Cabella to ready things up for the future partnership which could be formation of 4231, 451, 442. Looking forward, and staying positive.

    About Cabaye’s speculation, he said himself he isnt looking to move not untill summer anyway, but PSG or another team coming in to bid will know most likely they will need to pay allot, over £25m to get him as Cabaye is not willing to go, with his current form in NUFC, and his squad status in the French National Squad. So only if £25m+ comes in he goes, and in my opinion that would be brilliant deal if we spent all of it back in the squad.

    As much as I like Cabaye, all happy dreams have to come to an end to start another one. Another Fresh start then lads?

    Hope for the best,

    HWTL!

  • 305 lesh // Jan 20, 2014 at 12:28 AM

    Jeff from Benwell….. If Kinnear’s in Abu Dhabi, how in hell have they got him there, chartered a Hercules transporter or strapped to the deck of an empty container ship?

    Mind as far as Cabella being there too without having signed, was HBA signed before he pitched up at SJP?

    In all likelihood Cabella’s not at AD otherwise Montpellier take us to the cleaners for poaching etc!

  • 306 Jeff from Benwell // Jan 20, 2014 at 8:18 AM

    A few points

    1
    Don’t shoot the messenger , I didn’t even know NUFC were in AD until the text
    2
    Why would Cabaye leave us for PSG before the world cup .
    At NUFC he has nobody challenging him for a place ,I would imagine he is the 1st player on the team sheet.AP has given him a free roaming brief which guarantees him lots of TV screen time plus he takes all free kicks.The last thing he needs at the mo is extra CL games where he could get kicked.
    NUFC are never off French telly.
    The hysteria for the WC is getting well wound up in France (one pundit even theorised that it could be the first ever Francofone semis with Senegal CotedIvoire Belgium et Les Bleus)
    3
    There are some people who’s automatic response to something they don’t know is to shout “BULLSHIT!!!” you must have acquaintances like that.
    4
    There is also an envy factor .People who know F–k All always try to belittle people who know summat.




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