Why Would Alan Pardew Leave Newcastle For West Ham?


The press seem to be after big Sam Allardyce, as West Ham continue to struggle and slipped to 3rd bottom in the league table, after yesterday’s 3-1 home loss to Newcastle, and there are even suggestion that Alan Pardew could return to his former club.

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Sam Allardyce at yesterday’s game

But why would Alan Pardew want to leave Newcastle, after he had the team in 5th place in the league in 2o12, the highest we have finished  since the great Sir Bobby Robson was managing the club in 2004.

Alan was also the first Newcastle manager ever to win the Premier League Manager of the Season and the LMA Manager of the Season after we finished in 5th place two years ago.

And why would Alan want to leave a Newcastle side who could be pushing for a second top five finish in two years if we have a good run-in,  to manage a club who are fighting relegation?

It just doesn’t make too much sense to us, and that’s not to criticize West Ham United, who are a great club and have terrific fans.

And even if the Hammers were to offer Pardew a fantastic compensation package, and a big bonus if he were to keep them in the PL this season, we’d be surprised if Alan would be interested,

It seems the speculation is being fueled by Alan being close friends with David Gold, West Ham’s co-owner with David Sullivan , and of course Alan managed the club between 2003 and 2006

Of course, all this is assuming that Sam Allardyce will be fired, but the Hammers best chance for survival is to keep the experienced former Newcastle manager at the helm, and have the Board support him.

That would be their best chance of surviving this season.

What do you think?

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207 comments so far

  • Dannyo

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #1

    He wouldn’t, and I hope he doesn’t.

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  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #2

    don’t know abt wasted ham but should get as far away as he can from NUFC

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #3

    himanshu read the espn link on how west ham would love our style you sad whingebag.

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  • jazzyp

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #4

    I don’t think this site is getting off to the best of starts today guys. And the big hitters have yet to join lol

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  • Offkey

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #5

    As I see it, our current squad should be able to get a place around 8th. Maybe even a couple of spots higher. A change of manager, with a continued lack of backing from MA, could maybe get us those couple of places, by extracting a bit more out of the players we have.

    I just dont know if we would be able to get that manager, whoever that is, and who is willing to work under the current regime. I get the arguments about Pardew and I agree to an extent, but at the moment I would probably say…………… better the devil you know………..

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #6

    Munster
    Got a link?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #7

    Dannyo

    Yeh a shearer would be good. That’s what negrado seems like at man city to me. Enough pace, strong in the air, good touch and hold up play and knows where the back if the net is. Looks a steal at 20mil.

    Munster

    Yesterday was great I thought, it’s something I knew pardew and the players were capable of as they have done it in a fair few games.

    It’s what I cry out for, pardew to just let them take the handbrake off and attack, which is what we did and looked fantastic for it.

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #8

    danyo

    are you kidding ?

    id swap big sam for pardew any day of the week,

    and in no way am i saying sam is the answer for me, but sam has his teams set up much better than pardew,

    also reading your post about kids

    no kids get a fair chance under pardew, and that also goes for a lot of posters on here,

    pardew is not a manager that instills confidence in the kids, infact i think its the other way, they get to the bench, they get a few games, there feeling high, bang then there dropped for no reason

    kids with promise,
    vucic
    fergy
    biggi
    campbell
    Mehdi Abeid
    sam bambi

    for what ever reason, pardew has lost faith in these kids and all ov them have something about there games that could add to our squad, and be better options for a sub than shola, obertan and a few others

    it seems pardew wants finished players, and can not develop anyone,

    who has became a better player under pardew???

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #9

    Yeah, I think it’s past time anyone can can rubbish the way we play, without looking a bit silly. Our first choice midfield 5 is top notch, our best 13 or 14 players real quality and the passing and movement has been very good for a while now. Not a lot wrong with the side and if they could get Cabella and De Jong in, then you’re starting to look at what would appear very much like a finished item.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #10

    Munster

    That’s my biggest criticism of the man, not that he is incapable of doing what we need just seems reluctant to do it for whatever reason especially against sides like west ham where we showed we could blow them away.

    But massive credit for yesterday, easy to go into your shell after a fee defeats.

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  • jazzyp

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #11

    Catchy
    That’s Cabella screwed then, As hes not the finished article by a long way

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #12

    At 22 Shane Ferguson is not a kid ffs
    Oh and he can’t even get in the brum squad this season, suppose that’s pardews fault mind!

    Also on that list Catchy, 4 of them are on loan, that’s so they progress, get game time, he also stated he was trying to get Bigi on loan to get him regular football
    Are you seriously saying atm you would drop cabs/tiote/Anita for Bigi?
    As for Sammy he’s given the lad plenty of chances
    I’m sorry sometimes you make valid points but blaming solely Pardew on our failing youth system is complete and utter bullsh*t

    As for Fat Sam setting up teams better……….

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  • jazzyp

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #13

    TS
    Doesn’t it frustrate you tho how we can play so attacking in the first half yet the second we seemed to dropback on to the back foot, and yet again take our foot off the pedal and invite them to attack.

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #14

    jazzyp

    i would love to have him here, i admit iv only seen the youtube stuff, and checked the stat sites

    he for me is the same type of player as HBA, so i do fear for him

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #15

    Jazzy

    It would be nice to dominate both halfs but we don’t have the team of man city or Chelsea so when players tire we bring on players like shola who haven’t got the required quality.

    Also football has two teams, I bet the west ham fans were saying why can we threaten in the second half but not do much in the first.

    The thing with the prem league now is that all teams have good players, some have a lot more than others but even with bottom sides they still have 2/3 who can change games if they are playing well.

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  • Dannyo

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #16

    @catchy
    We’ve had our fair share of arguments over this.
    I could get if you wanted the likes of Ferguson, Hitzfield or Hiddink over Pardew.
    I wouldn’t have said no to that for sure.
    But Sam? Fat Sam?
    Now you’re just being spiteful.
    I won’t argue this with you, we have our differences over this and the one won’t convince the other.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jan 19, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #17

    Catchy
    Ffs Cabella is not the same type of player as HBA, nothing like him in anyway
    Writing off a player with Dennis Wise scouting tactics, great stuff

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #18

    tads

    no im not saying id drop any of them for the kids, but i would have them here, and I would be giving them game time
    they dont have to start games, parde should be managing his squad much better,
    a few of our players are looking tired,
    pardew waits for injuries before they get a rest,

    and on fergy, yes he is 22, so he was 18/19 when pardew came, between ferg/sammy/obertan, ferg had the most assists, and could have developed into a good LW, as he had a great cross, and DID track back,, this is where a manager earns his money

    i forgot about tavernier, lua lua

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  • jazzyp

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #19

    TS
    I think that proves a point that the bench is still not strong enough to have any reliance on. Saylor has done surprisingly well since colo’s injury but what if we were to lose either Willo or saylor……we have no depth. The same goes for Remy or Gouffy, Take them out of the equation and where do the goals come from.
    In truth shola should be nowhere near the first team, And I think his brother has had enough chances as well

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  • magpie6699

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #20

    catchy – you’d prefer BFS to Pardew? Can I have what you’re smoking?
    Were we happy when Fat Sam was our manager? No. Did we enjoy his style of football? No. In terms of league positions etc, what has Sam achieved that Pardew hasn’t? I would dread his return – only 2 people I’d like less and that’s Grim Shoemess and JFK!
    As for the football we play – we seemed to play some good stuff yesterday and if you watch the Man City game we had some delightful passing moves, just the result was lacking. Did we really expect to dominate the whole game and restrict the opposition to nil chances when playing a relegation-threatened team away in the EPL?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #21

    catchy and dannyo

    I do find it odd that sammy has completely gone from coming off the bench as he was doing much better than previous years coming off the bench in early games but he has totally disappeared from the pitch. He isn’t great but does more than obertan I think.

    Fergie and tav are old now and not good enough, not for this level anyway.

    Vukic has bags of talent but being able to play 2 games a year through injury has stopped his development.

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  • jaymundoman69er

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #22

    Who’s got better under pardew? Cabaye, Krul, Williamson has looked a different player this season.Why would anyone want big Sam instead of pardew?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #23

    Catchy,
    I’m a little bit hungover, did I just read that you’d swap anti football Fat Sam for Pardew, although your posts aren’t always the most interesting I’ve never taken you for a WUM.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #24

    jazzy

    i think we are ok for CBs…we have 4 who are good enough, there are other areas to improve first I think.

    I think we need to really look at getting another option up front as we haven’t go much there and also midfield. We have few options out wide and also in the middle we have nobody on the bench.

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  • Dannyo

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #25

    @Jail
    You did read that, you did, you can’t unsee it. And this fella people discuss with. Pointless.

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #26

    Dannyo

    i am basing it on football,,

    i know what im going to get with sam, he gets bodies into the box,

    i remember watching his bolton side, they played some really good football, he new how to manage his squad,

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  • Magpie Myles

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #27

    catchy

    Really sorry, but your comment on having fat sam back is beyond idiotic and shows just how little you know about football.
    I think Pardew has done a good job this season, not outstanding, but weve been playing some good football this season. West Ham were set up to fail yesterday and they were all over the place!
    Anyone would take someone like Gus Hiddink. over Pardew, but Pardew is giving it a go. Some people ned to wake up to reality on here.

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  • JaxtheMag

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #28

    there is a god.

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  • TorqToon

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #29

    So now we want fat Sam back in place of pardew?! Man this blog gets ridiculous at times! And Cabella isn’t the same type of player as HBA. Nothing like him.

    As for the finished product, and players getting ‘pardewed’, we have improved Cabaye massively since he came here. Same with debuchys all round play, sissoko and Gouffran are better players at this club that they have ever been. So I guess pards and the coaching staff aren’t doing THAT bad of a job.

    Maybe the youngsters that didn’t make it at this club, purely fell short of the standard. Rather than we didn’t get enough out of them.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #30

    dannyo ,jail ,catchy

    me and catchy had a discussion this week about not knowing pardew’s style to get goals, it seemed to be too much on pot shots of somebody doing something special (which can be seen from chucking hba on who just ends up having t shoot for last 10 mins).

    But yesterday, and other times when we do get numbers forward and runners in behind, we look a totally different side. Yesterday was very very good play, clever runs and very good passing….long may it continue.

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  • Dannyo

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #31

    @Transfer Sage
    Last I read NUFC were looking to hold to their youngsters longer than they normally would have. (As when they released a whole bunch of reserves 2/3 years ago)
    Reason for this was that they found that some may bloom later than others and wanted to give them a chance if they wanted to themselves.
    The likes of Sammy, Dummett and etc are at a stage where they won’t develope more without games at a high level.
    Pardew currently doesn’t give them that so I can’t see how we can say the players aren’t good enough.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #32

    with the kids at the end of the day you could play them every week but if they aren’t good enough they aren’t good enough.

    what we need to do is ask why we aren’t picking up the talented ones, letting them slip through our net (shearer, carrick, adam johnson)…they need to be at a higher level at the age of 18/19 so they can come into the first team.

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  • milburn 77

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #33

    does he need lift?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #34

    Catchy,
    Not a lot of people other than rotonda have time for you constant Pardew bashing, but you have just driven the final nail in your own coffin by suggesting you’d have mackem fat Sam in charge of the team.

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  • Shot Bru

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #35

    It would be great business for Ashley if West Ham got Pardew…all that compo!!!

    Replace him for free with Steve Clarke..not bad huh..

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #36

    we won 3-1 yesterday

    but i wouldnt say we were the better team,

    infact on actual goal chances, they had the better chances

    v man c

    most of you are smoking crack,,,

    any team can get hold of the ball and pass it in there own half, we are actually very good at that, given the appearance we are doing better than we are,

    we both had 12 shots, but we only had 2 inside the 18 box, city had 6 and scored 2
    this is not a one off game, this is our game, shoot from distance

    id go as far as to say, we have the highest number of shots in the prem, from outside the box
    and the lowest from inside the box,,

    hence why cisse looks crap

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #37

    Catchy
    But he did use Ferguson, and then put him on loan to get game time, this is his second season on loan and he’s regressing that is not Pardews fault!

    Lualua was in the last year of his contract so he had no say plus had very little to do with him, once again have him a loan spell where kazenga did very little

    Tavernier is sh*t, plain and simple tbh you me any one would be going mental if he was getting game time

    Vuckic has been crippled by injuries how any one can blame his lack of progress on anything other than his poor injury record is beyond me

    Campbell, he’s on loan getting game time, don’t see the problem, if you’ve seen him play for St.Mirren you’ll understand why he wasn’t getting major game time for us, he’s doing ok there but needs to develop his game a lot still

    Bigi, I agree should be getting used more but we have such depth in midfield i can’t see him getting used so should be on loan

    Sammy, got plenty of game time last season, and another player that people hound Pardew for playing him

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #38

    dannyo

    I see your point, but maybe in training they look totally lost when up against the senior lads and just aren’t doing well enough.

    It’s difficult with defenders like dummet as we have 2 other lads in his position and also it’s not ideal to keep changing your back 4 during a game, easier to make attacking subs.

    Sammy should be ahead of obertan, I agree with anyone who says that…but will he ever be good enough? i very much doubt it.

    these are lads who have had loans to championship and league 1 clubs and looked out of their depth.

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  • jazzyp

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #39

    TS@23
    I think we need to really look at getting another option up front as we haven’t go much there and also midfield. We have few options out wide and also in the middle we have nobody on the bench.
    When you look at it like that it doesn’t look great for us then pal does it.
    Torq-Im afraid im going to have to disagree with you on Sammy mate, I think he’s had enough chances !!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #40

    jazzy

    not too bad, we just need a forward, wide man then a mid like cabella and we are fine for now, very strong in fact

    then come the summer see who stays/goes and take it from there.

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