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Why Would Alan Pardew Leave Newcastle For West Ham?

9:20 am, Sunday, January 19th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 207 Comments

The press seem to be after big Sam Allardyce, as West Ham continue to struggle and slipped to 3rd bottom in the league table, after yesterday’s 3-1 home loss to Newcastle, and there are even suggestion that Alan Pardew could return to his former club.

sam allardue newcastle win 3-1

Sam Allardyce at yesterday’s game

But why would Alan Pardew want to leave Newcastle, after he had the team in 5th place in the league in 2o12, the highest we have finished  since the great Sir Bobby Robson was managing the club in 2004.

Alan was also the first Newcastle manager ever to win the Premier League Manager of the Season and the LMA Manager of the Season after we finished in 5th place two years ago.

And why would Alan want to leave a Newcastle side who could be pushing for a second top five finish in two years if we have a good run-in,  to manage a club who are fighting relegation?

It just doesn’t make too much sense to us, and that’s not to criticize West Ham United, who are a great club and have terrific fans.

And even if the Hammers were to offer Pardew a fantastic compensation package, and a big bonus if he were to keep them in the PL this season, we’d be surprised if Alan would be interested,

It seems the speculation is being fueled by Alan being close friends with David Gold, West Ham’s co-owner with David Sullivan , and of course Alan managed the club between 2003 and 2006

Of course, all this is assuming that Sam Allardyce will be fired, but the Hammers best chance for survival is to keep the experienced former Newcastle manager at the helm, and have the Board support him.

That would be their best chance of surviving this season.

What do you think?

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207 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Dannyo // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    He wouldn’t, and I hope he doesn’t.

  • 2 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:23 AM

    don’t know abt wasted ham but should get as far away as he can from NUFC

  • 3 Munster Mag // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    himanshu read the espn link on how west ham would love our style you sad whingebag.

  • 4 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    I don’t think this site is getting off to the best of starts today guys. And the big hitters have yet to join lol

  • 5 Offkey // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    As I see it, our current squad should be able to get a place around 8th. Maybe even a couple of spots higher. A change of manager, with a continued lack of backing from MA, could maybe get us those couple of places, by extracting a bit more out of the players we have.

    I just dont know if we would be able to get that manager, whoever that is, and who is willing to work under the current regime. I get the arguments about Pardew and I agree to an extent, but at the moment I would probably say…………… better the devil you know………..

  • 6 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Munster
    Got a link?

  • 7 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:42 AM

    Dannyo

    Yeh a shearer would be good. That’s what negrado seems like at man city to me. Enough pace, strong in the air, good touch and hold up play and knows where the back if the net is. Looks a steal at 20mil.

    Munster

    Yesterday was great I thought, it’s something I knew pardew and the players were capable of as they have done it in a fair few games.

    It’s what I cry out for, pardew to just let them take the handbrake off and attack, which is what we did and looked fantastic for it.

  • 8 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:43 AM

    danyo

    are you kidding ?

    id swap big sam for pardew any day of the week,

    and in no way am i saying sam is the answer for me, but sam has his teams set up much better than pardew,

    also reading your post about kids

    no kids get a fair chance under pardew, and that also goes for a lot of posters on here,

    pardew is not a manager that instills confidence in the kids, infact i think its the other way, they get to the bench, they get a few games, there feeling high, bang then there dropped for no reason

    kids with promise,
    vucic
    fergy
    biggi
    campbell
    Mehdi Abeid
    sam bambi

    for what ever reason, pardew has lost faith in these kids and all ov them have something about there games that could add to our squad, and be better options for a sub than shola, obertan and a few others

    it seems pardew wants finished players, and can not develop anyone,

    who has became a better player under pardew???

  • 9 jimmysmith // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Yeah, I think it’s past time anyone can can rubbish the way we play, without looking a bit silly. Our first choice midfield 5 is top notch, our best 13 or 14 players real quality and the passing and movement has been very good for a while now. Not a lot wrong with the side and if they could get Cabella and De Jong in, then you’re starting to look at what would appear very much like a finished item.

  • 10 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    Munster

    That’s my biggest criticism of the man, not that he is incapable of doing what we need just seems reluctant to do it for whatever reason especially against sides like west ham where we showed we could blow them away.

    But massive credit for yesterday, easy to go into your shell after a fee defeats.

  • 11 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    Catchy
    That’s Cabella screwed then, As hes not the finished article by a long way

  • 12 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    At 22 Shane Ferguson is not a kid ffs
    Oh and he can’t even get in the brum squad this season, suppose that’s pardews fault mind!

    Also on that list Catchy, 4 of them are on loan, that’s so they progress, get game time, he also stated he was trying to get Bigi on loan to get him regular football
    Are you seriously saying atm you would drop cabs/tiote/Anita for Bigi?
    As for Sammy he’s given the lad plenty of chances
    I’m sorry sometimes you make valid points but blaming solely Pardew on our failing youth system is complete and utter bullsh*t

    As for Fat Sam setting up teams better……….

  • 13 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    TS
    Doesn’t it frustrate you tho how we can play so attacking in the first half yet the second we seemed to dropback on to the back foot, and yet again take our foot off the pedal and invite them to attack.

  • 14 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    jazzyp

    i would love to have him here, i admit iv only seen the youtube stuff, and checked the stat sites

    he for me is the same type of player as HBA, so i do fear for him

  • 15 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    Jazzy

    It would be nice to dominate both halfs but we don’t have the team of man city or Chelsea so when players tire we bring on players like shola who haven’t got the required quality.

    Also football has two teams, I bet the west ham fans were saying why can we threaten in the second half but not do much in the first.

    The thing with the prem league now is that all teams have good players, some have a lot more than others but even with bottom sides they still have 2/3 who can change games if they are playing well.

  • 16 Dannyo // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    @catchy
    We’ve had our fair share of arguments over this.
    I could get if you wanted the likes of Ferguson, Hitzfield or Hiddink over Pardew.
    I wouldn’t have said no to that for sure.
    But Sam? Fat Sam?
    Now you’re just being spiteful.
    I won’t argue this with you, we have our differences over this and the one won’t convince the other.

  • 17 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Catchy
    Ffs Cabella is not the same type of player as HBA, nothing like him in anyway
    Writing off a player with Dennis Wise scouting tactics, great stuff

  • 18 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    tads

    no im not saying id drop any of them for the kids, but i would have them here, and I would be giving them game time
    they dont have to start games, parde should be managing his squad much better,
    a few of our players are looking tired,
    pardew waits for injuries before they get a rest,

    and on fergy, yes he is 22, so he was 18/19 when pardew came, between ferg/sammy/obertan, ferg had the most assists, and could have developed into a good LW, as he had a great cross, and DID track back,, this is where a manager earns his money

    i forgot about tavernier, lua lua

  • 19 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    TS
    I think that proves a point that the bench is still not strong enough to have any reliance on. Saylor has done surprisingly well since colo’s injury but what if we were to lose either Willo or saylor……we have no depth. The same goes for Remy or Gouffy, Take them out of the equation and where do the goals come from.
    In truth shola should be nowhere near the first team, And I think his brother has had enough chances as well

  • 20 magpie6699 // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    catchy – you’d prefer BFS to Pardew? Can I have what you’re smoking?
    Were we happy when Fat Sam was our manager? No. Did we enjoy his style of football? No. In terms of league positions etc, what has Sam achieved that Pardew hasn’t? I would dread his return – only 2 people I’d like less and that’s Grim Shoemess and JFK!
    As for the football we play – we seemed to play some good stuff yesterday and if you watch the Man City game we had some delightful passing moves, just the result was lacking. Did we really expect to dominate the whole game and restrict the opposition to nil chances when playing a relegation-threatened team away in the EPL?

  • 21 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    catchy and dannyo

    I do find it odd that sammy has completely gone from coming off the bench as he was doing much better than previous years coming off the bench in early games but he has totally disappeared from the pitch. He isn’t great but does more than obertan I think.

    Fergie and tav are old now and not good enough, not for this level anyway.

    Vukic has bags of talent but being able to play 2 games a year through injury has stopped his development.

  • 22 jaymundoman69er // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Who’s got better under pardew? Cabaye, Krul, Williamson has looked a different player this season.Why would anyone want big Sam instead of pardew?

  • 23 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    Catchy,
    I’m a little bit hungover, did I just read that you’d swap anti football Fat Sam for Pardew, although your posts aren’t always the most interesting I’ve never taken you for a WUM.

  • 24 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    jazzy

    i think we are ok for CBs…we have 4 who are good enough, there are other areas to improve first I think.

    I think we need to really look at getting another option up front as we haven’t go much there and also midfield. We have few options out wide and also in the middle we have nobody on the bench.

  • 25 Dannyo // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    @Jail
    You did read that, you did, you can’t unsee it. And this fella people discuss with. Pointless.

  • 26 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Dannyo

    i am basing it on football,,

    i know what im going to get with sam, he gets bodies into the box,

    i remember watching his bolton side, they played some really good football, he new how to manage his squad,

  • 27 Magpie Myles // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    catchy

    Really sorry, but your comment on having fat sam back is beyond idiotic and shows just how little you know about football.
    I think Pardew has done a good job this season, not outstanding, but weve been playing some good football this season. West Ham were set up to fail yesterday and they were all over the place!
    Anyone would take someone like Gus Hiddink. over Pardew, but Pardew is giving it a go. Some people ned to wake up to reality on here.

  • 28 JaxtheMag // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    there is a god.

  • 29 TorqToon // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    So now we want fat Sam back in place of pardew?! Man this blog gets ridiculous at times! And Cabella isn’t the same type of player as HBA. Nothing like him.

    As for the finished product, and players getting ‘pardewed’, we have improved Cabaye massively since he came here. Same with debuchys all round play, sissoko and Gouffran are better players at this club that they have ever been. So I guess pards and the coaching staff aren’t doing THAT bad of a job.

    Maybe the youngsters that didn’t make it at this club, purely fell short of the standard. Rather than we didn’t get enough out of them.

  • 30 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:11 AM

    dannyo ,jail ,catchy

    me and catchy had a discussion this week about not knowing pardew’s style to get goals, it seemed to be too much on pot shots of somebody doing something special (which can be seen from chucking hba on who just ends up having t shoot for last 10 mins).

    But yesterday, and other times when we do get numbers forward and runners in behind, we look a totally different side. Yesterday was very very good play, clever runs and very good passing….long may it continue.

  • 31 Dannyo // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    @Transfer Sage
    Last I read NUFC were looking to hold to their youngsters longer than they normally would have. (As when they released a whole bunch of reserves 2/3 years ago)
    Reason for this was that they found that some may bloom later than others and wanted to give them a chance if they wanted to themselves.
    The likes of Sammy, Dummett and etc are at a stage where they won’t develope more without games at a high level.
    Pardew currently doesn’t give them that so I can’t see how we can say the players aren’t good enough.

  • 32 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    with the kids at the end of the day you could play them every week but if they aren’t good enough they aren’t good enough.

    what we need to do is ask why we aren’t picking up the talented ones, letting them slip through our net (shearer, carrick, adam johnson)…they need to be at a higher level at the age of 18/19 so they can come into the first team.

  • 33 milburn 77 // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    does he need lift?

  • 34 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Catchy,
    Not a lot of people other than rotonda have time for you constant Pardew bashing, but you have just driven the final nail in your own coffin by suggesting you’d have mackem fat Sam in charge of the team.

  • 35 Shot Bru // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    It would be great business for Ashley if West Ham got Pardew…all that compo!!!

    Replace him for free with Steve Clarke..not bad huh..

  • 36 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    we won 3-1 yesterday

    but i wouldnt say we were the better team,

    infact on actual goal chances, they had the better chances

    v man c

    most of you are smoking crack,,,

    any team can get hold of the ball and pass it in there own half, we are actually very good at that, given the appearance we are doing better than we are,

    we both had 12 shots, but we only had 2 inside the 18 box, city had 6 and scored 2
    this is not a one off game, this is our game, shoot from distance

    id go as far as to say, we have the highest number of shots in the prem, from outside the box
    and the lowest from inside the box,,

    hence why cisse looks crap

  • 37 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Catchy
    But he did use Ferguson, and then put him on loan to get game time, this is his second season on loan and he’s regressing that is not Pardews fault!

    Lualua was in the last year of his contract so he had no say plus had very little to do with him, once again have him a loan spell where kazenga did very little

    Tavernier is sh*t, plain and simple tbh you me any one would be going mental if he was getting game time

    Vuckic has been crippled by injuries how any one can blame his lack of progress on anything other than his poor injury record is beyond me

    Campbell, he’s on loan getting game time, don’t see the problem, if you’ve seen him play for St.Mirren you’ll understand why he wasn’t getting major game time for us, he’s doing ok there but needs to develop his game a lot still

    Bigi, I agree should be getting used more but we have such depth in midfield i can’t see him getting used so should be on loan

    Sammy, got plenty of game time last season, and another player that people hound Pardew for playing him

  • 38 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    dannyo

    I see your point, but maybe in training they look totally lost when up against the senior lads and just aren’t doing well enough.

    It’s difficult with defenders like dummet as we have 2 other lads in his position and also it’s not ideal to keep changing your back 4 during a game, easier to make attacking subs.

    Sammy should be ahead of obertan, I agree with anyone who says that…but will he ever be good enough? i very much doubt it.

    these are lads who have had loans to championship and league 1 clubs and looked out of their depth.

  • 39 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    TS@23
    I think we need to really look at getting another option up front as we haven’t go much there and also midfield. We have few options out wide and also in the middle we have nobody on the bench.
    When you look at it like that it doesn’t look great for us then pal does it.
    Torq-Im afraid im going to have to disagree with you on Sammy mate, I think he’s had enough chances !!

  • 40 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    jazzy

    not too bad, we just need a forward, wide man then a mid like cabella and we are fine for now, very strong in fact

    then come the summer see who stays/goes and take it from there.

  • 41 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    i think you guys are reading something i did not say

    i said
    id swap big sam for pardew any day of the week,

    and in no way am i saying sam is the answer for me, but sam has his teams set up much better than pardew,

    i repeat,,

    sam is not the snawer for me, but i think he is better than pardew

  • 42 sparky55 // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    The west ham fans wouldn’t want him back…he left them in very dire straights and badly mis handled two players that became world class giants of the game as soon as they were released from the shackles Pardew had on them…much like the shackles our players are wearing now.

    yes he’s doing well for us with a very good squad but there’s no doubt in my mind we’d be doing much better under a better manager and there’s no doubt in my mind the West ham fans would rather not have him back

  • 43 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    sparky

    you can’t blame pardew for tevez nd mascherano

    the pair of them are temperamental little brats who were clearly only there to get a move to a different prem club, had no interest in a relegation battle.

    for all you know they may have not integrated into the team through there own choice so pardew couldn’t really put them in.

  • 44 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    You’d be hard pushed to find a toon fan, Citeh fan, pundit or Neutral that would say we didn’t fully deserve something from the city game

    As for being second best yesterday, wtf!
    The first half we were absolutely phenomenal the second half we were pushed but still played well and played smartly kept countering kept breaking up there play and got the 3rd goal

    I can see how you might think we were second best though because MOTD didn’t show many of our highlights…..

  • 45 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    sparky

    it’s obvious we’d do better under a better manager, i’d love a top class manager to come in, even somebody like a laudrup.

    but looking at every manager ashley has appointed doesn’t fill me with hope

  • 46 sparky55 // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    yes I can and I just did! :-):-)

  • 47 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    jail

    go bang your drum about ashley,,

    whats thats sam cooke song,, a change is gana come,, NOT

    we have more chance ov changing pardew than ashley

    one would cost peanuts as he is a monkey, the other would cost over 300 million

    good luck with that

  • 48 saxonfenken // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Torq
    You are wasting your time trying to figure out Catchy,
    The only person who is happy when we lose, so he can be negative about Pardew.
    Just ignore him

  • 49 Dannyo // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    @Transfer Sage
    There’s always that possibility.
    But take a look at Dummett. He came in on 10 men down and was up against Jesus Navas. A lightning fast winger in the world class mold, who should’ve handed Dummett his own arse.
    Instead Dummett times everything right, despite lacking pace, and officially shuts him out of the game. So much that he was subbed.
    Yesterday too when coming on, never a foot wrong.
    In other camoes, spot on in every decision, even vital blocks in front of goals 1 or 2 times.

    Why is he not playing over Santon? Moreover, his crossing when coming forward is great too.

  • 50 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    dannyo

    I’ll give you that one, i really do like dummet, he even did a great job at centre back in the liverpool match.

    I’d like to see him as our left back but maybe pardew wants to use his form to try and push santon on a bit more, he’s a champions league winner and a big player under mourinho at inter so must have something as mourinho likes a proper defender….maybe pardew is giving him chance to recapture that form and this is his final push?

    maybe he is just bottling making the decison…i simply don’t know.

  • 51 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    tads

    your making things up about what im saying

    i am not going on how pretty our football looks at times, ( not that often)
    what im going on about is about we have nothing in the final 3rd of the pitch, as we tend to shoot from stupid distance
    and v man c
    look at the facts,

    we passed the ball, but never really trubled them in there area, and i also think we got a lot of simpethy for tiotes goal,,
    if you create chances in the box, you score more goals, thats what city did,

    hold the ball in your own half gets you nothing

  • 52 Dannyo // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    @Transfer Sage
    I understand that you have to treat every player differently, they’re humans.
    One needs a kick in the butt, one needs an arm on his shoulder, etc. etc.
    But Santon man, he’s been off form for a while now, how long should one keep going?
    Jonas was dropped (eventually) HBA isn’t starting, neither is Cisse.
    I dunno, maybe AP is seeing something I’m not.

  • 53 Rotonda heights // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    catchy

    I have my well documented issues with pardew but swap him for Allardyce are you insane?

    My problem with pardew is as s good as we were yesterday, it snapped a 4 match losing streak scoring only 1 goal and every time you think we are going somewhere he’ll do something fatally daft again. Absolutely no consistency whatsoever.

  • 54 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Catchy,
    It’s obvious by my username that I’m not happy with Ashleys regime but I have resigned myself to the fact he is here for the next seven years, you have just suggested the equivalent of swapping Mikey for the Venkys, ironically the last people to sack him for his brand of football.

  • 55 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Catchy 2 of our goals were scored inside the box yesterday, you really are grasping at straws with your anti- Pardew aganda

  • 56 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    Catchy
    Sorry mate but we got the ball in the box plenty vs City
    Remy missed a couple, had a couple saved, Goofy had a couple of great crosses whipped in he didn’t challenge hard enough for

    The service was there, I’m not making anything up about what your saying, just saying that it’s false
    Must say i find it funny that you can say
    “any team can get hold of the ball and pass it in there own half, we are actually very good at that, given the appearance we are doing better than we are,” as a criticism of our team yet continually praise Swansea who do that exact thing week in week out

  • 57 jimmysmith // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    Santon seems to me a genuinely gifted player. He is incredibly calm and poised under pressure when in posession for a fullback. Just holds on to it until the right pass presents itself and plays the easy ball. He also always looks to get forward and take on a defender and his defending is improving noticeably as he fills out.

    He is a real star in the making at what, 22. Not a Maldini, of course, Mourinho got a bit carried away there, but I can’t think of a right back in this league I’d rather have in the side, considering he has so many good years ahead of him.

  • 58 stuart no9 // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    i think pards going back to west ham would be a good move for everyone.
    if west ham do get relegated, pardew , by taking over, would have something to aim for at the start of the season, promotion would obviously be priority.
    I think pards has gone as far as he can here. We start every season with one thing in mind- staying in the prem, whoopee doo, so what?with a better manager and the players we have, we could do a lot better.

    Cisse started off scoring for fun in his first season’ then for some very strange reason, he turns from being brilliant- to usless , during the summer break. Remy flew out of the blocks when he first came ,then for some reason couldnt hit a barn door. what is it with pards and strikers? coincidence maybe? who knows. but he does not get the best out of the team he has – maybe he is out of his depth with the quality players we have. West ham would be a level of quality pards would be accustomed to.

  • 59 whu65 // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    why would he want to go to west ham??
    well known fact he has always said he has unfinished business at west ham.
    said when he left one day HE will return.
    also the 3.6 million a year may help too :)

  • 60 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    Bloody hell
    36 points in top ten playing some excellent football played west ham in relegation zone 18 points off the pitch first half, but for poor finishing should of been 5 up and people want to swap Big Sam for Pardew – oh dear

    West Ham stands not high enough to for the cameras for fat Sam’s style off HOOFBALL umpteen times yesterday the ball disappeared out of the top of the television screen

  • 61 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Get French Football ?@GFN_France · 5 mins
    L’Equipe: Yohan Cabaye has decided he will stay at Newcastle until the end of the season, they claim. #NUFC #PSG

    That’s nice of him.What a decent bloke he is

    ?

    ?

    ?

  • 62 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    tequila and tads

    in fairness catchy does have a point on our chances, i can’t find the link now but i did post an article saying that last season we had the 3rd most % of total shots outside the box and the 2nd least inside the 6 yard box.

    I do get that criticism, even though we did very well yesterday we need to make sure we do it more consistently. We all know we can play great attacking football but it’s the consistency of doing it and also that sometimes we sit too deep and don’t commit enough forward especially when playing the weaker teams.

  • 63 Offkey // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    To be fair to Catchy, he does have a point about long shots. We were for a couple of games getting next to no shots on goal. This was clear to all and it seemed Pardew did give the order to start shooting from range more in games. The shots on goal started to go up but they were all from outside the box and we still looked pretty toothless.

    I also think this is the reason Cisse isn’t scoring, as far as I’m aware he had a high shots per goal ratio before he joined us, now he may have two in a whole game.

  • 64 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    stuart

    I think the amount we got decent crosses and cut backs into the box yesterday if cisse was playing he’d have had one or two.

  • 65 jazzyp // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    StuartNo9
    I think Cisse’s demise started well before the summer mate

  • 66 Belfast // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    This is a load of bollox like.
    For a start West Ham can’t afford to sack fat Sham because it would cost them 6 million apparently. Ferk knows what it would cost to sack all his coaching staff as well. Then they’d have to pay us compensation too.

    Would be quite happy if it did happen though lol

  • 67 sparky55 // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    one of the many arts of football management is keeping the opposition guessing…pardew is useless at this…every manger knows what’s they’re up against when Pardew comes to town and I’ve said this before and was lambasted by most for saying so but we win despite Pardew, not because of him…we don’t score footballing goals…we rely on individual brilliance far too often and our ability to build from the back in a controlled manner is woeful considering the talent we have.

    We’re always set up with caution and we’re always guilty of scoring and then handing the initiative back to the opposition.

    We are at our most vulnerable when we take the lead because he automatically goes into defensive lead preservation mode when most teams go into attacking lead preservation mode by attempting to bounce on. we all know a one goal lead is not enough especially with our defence so why does he start defending as soon as we score a goal.

    the best wat to kill off a game is to score 3 or 4, not defend the one goal lead

  • 68 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    TDS last season was last season. Do you have the figures for this season? I seem to recall plenty of goals scored inside the box.

  • 69 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    Sage
    Yeah but mate that’s an article based on stats of shots taken
    Watch the city or arsenal game again
    Plenty of crosses and cut backs, but no one in the box, that’s a complete difference from not getting the service in there, it’s the players being out of position, hence our desperate need for another CF

    People can bleat on about Cisse all they want, but it’s BS, the service has improved massively and the lad still looks beyond poor

  • 70 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Sparky. I see so when we lose it`s all Pardews fault and when we win it`s down to the brilliance of individual players( who Pardew Bought trained and selected)
    Thanks for clearing that up.

  • 71 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    tequila

    i can’t remember the site, i’ll have a look and see what i can find.

    http://stats.football365.co.uk/dom/ENG/teams/NewcastleUtd.html

    this isn’t the right one but has some points.

  • 72 ErnestHemingway // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Catchy….

    Hang on a minute….I haven’t posted on here for eons but I felt compelled to this morning….you cannot honestly believe that fat sham sets his teams up better than pardew, or any manager in the premier league for that matter.

    You win the award for the most bizarre statement ever made. Comical catchy!

  • 73 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    tads,
    For whatever reason Cisse simply doesn’t want to be here.

  • 74 stuart no9 // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    transfer, jazzy,- whatever the reason for their indifferent form , IMO pards seems to struggle to maintain a level of football we should be achieving more often . ok , we will have our off days , all clubs do, but those off days seem to happen more than the good ones. yesterday in the first half i thought we were brilliant, best attacking display for a long time.2nd half again , what happened , this for me is the annoying part of pardews methods , tactics , whatever , but it is constant , you never know what half is going to be the good one or the bad one , not that we were ad yesterday , but i feel we very rarely play a decent 90 mins.

  • 75 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    so why would AP leave Newcastle to take over WHU?

    well simply answer really WHU have AP kind of players who play defence amd hoofball, suits him perfect also he probably knows another manager could come in and do better with the players we got and has that passion for Newcastle to reach Europe again

  • 76 sparky55 // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    see what I mean!

    we can all make our argument fit but please explain your thoughts on what happened when we played Cardiff, West ham at home, reading at home last year, hull at home this year…west brom away…you know…all those top teams that embarrassed us under pardew’s mis-management

  • 77 ToonMatt // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    Why would Pardew leave for West Ham? No Joe Kinnear? More ambition? To join a club who want to challenge for trophies? A club who will spend money etc

  • 78 Ben3arfa // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Has Kinnear signed De Jong yet ? Or is he still busy guzzling them German beers down?

  • 79 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    tads

    cisse is way out of form, and it not scoring brings nothing else…players now need to have more dimensions to their game really.

    they were good stats and a good read

    tequila

    http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/3853/Stages/7794/TeamStatistics/England-Premier-League-2013-2014

    found them, make sure you go down and look at team stats then look at shot zone stats

    we have 10th highest in 6 yard box, 20th in shots inside 18 yard box and 1st for shots outside the box….so catchy does have a point.

  • 80 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    although i do stress it’s expressed in a percentage

    so we may have more shots inside the box than other sides but just have 3/4 times more outside the box too

  • 81 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    stuart no9

    true mate about the second half but as long as Pardew is still at the helm we will continue to see this.

    what kind of manager will after an epic first half display suddenly bring Shola on and convert into a deep 4-4-2 system to hold onto a 2-1 lead with 25+ minutes to go AND against a team who lack in defence and attack?

  • 82 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Black and White. what a weird theory. if he would have preferred the players at WHU why sell Nolan and why did he he buy the players he has at Newcastle rather than the journeyman WHU players.

  • 83 achtoon // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    catchy not sure how old you are but you do realise we’ve had big sam before and he was sacked for being s**t. he is the worst manger in the premiership. chuck balls in the box and hope some lanky t**t heads it. that’s the sum total off his management style. and do you know he is one of the best paid mangers in europe, top 5 i believe. did you watch the game yesterday, we played some of the best football i’ve seen the toon play in many a year, we should have got something against arsenal and gave man city the tuffest game they had all season and you want saggyface who will probably get sacked after spending a fortune on players. you sir are either drunk or nuts. going back to bed because i think i’ve just had a bad dream.

  • 84 TorqToon // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Saxon – I try not to ignore anybody on this blog unless everything gets personal. Catch has his views, like we all do. And is entitled to them. Maybe I misinterpreted but I don’t want Sam allardyce back at this club, and I don’t believe it would ever happen.

  • 85 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    Tequila
    I posted catchy’s fat sam over Pards question on a WHU forum
    https://www.westhamtillidie.com/posts/2014/01/19/rickie-lambert-anyone#/comments
    Interesting like

  • 86 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    PARDEW!

  • 87 TorqToon // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    B&W – do you honestly think we went all out defensive in the second half? Because from what I saw, yes we were under the cosh at times, but wouldn’t say we sat back for 45mins mate?

  • 88 Harley // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    The thing with bringing kids through is its very hard to differentiate between promise and real ability.

    I was reading Alex fergusons book and he was saying that in the entire football league there are 72 players they’ve cut from their books.

    He was proud of the fact that he’d helped them get to where they are. But stated that when sending them out on loan they rarely become good enough for the top level, rather they find their level and make a career in those divisions.

    Out of all our youngsters that have had first team experience I believe only bigi is good enough.

    Sammy maybe, but not top level.

  • 89 ErnestHemingway // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Transfer sage

    But we’ve scored a lot of goals from outside the box, hit the wood work numerous times from distance and the keepers have made many saves from shots that have been from distance.

    We have players who are more than capable from scoring from distance so I don’t see this as a problem.

  • 90 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    tequilamag

    AP bought in Obertan but the rest though was MA and DL with the help of Carr, also Nolan got sold because MA wouldn’t give him bigger wages so i’m told to believe, so AP didn’t bring in the players we currently have

  • 91 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    ernest

    I think like everything it’s a balance really. I don’t have a problem with cabaye or ben arfa hitting it from distance, even remy….just i think we do it a little too often.

    It’s all down to choosing the best option at the time really.

  • 92 Ancientcoptic // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    “Why Would Alan Pardew Leave Newcastle For West Ham?”

    For more money, less pressure & a bigger transfer budget… more than likely.

    Not that I am saying he will go to West Ham, but there are plenty of reasons why he would go.

  • 93 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    TorqToon

    not for the full 45 minutes mate but most of the second half, our furthest player when on the counter wasn’t even in the opposition half i kept seeing Shola near the half way line, but like i said though WHU lacked in defence and attack and just imagine if they didn’t

  • 94 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    TDS, stas are open to interpretation we are akso 6th highest for amount of shots, the link you posted was interesting but I would rather take a little longer to check them out properly.
    TADS not quite the picture we have been led to believe then.
    Black and White, so again Pardew gets the blame for a player you don`t like but had zero imput over all other players.

  • 95 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    *TS

  • 96 ErnestHemingway // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    It’s irritating when someone like, say, Steven Taylor or even santon tries to smash one in from distance when others are better positioned, but it doesn’t happen that often.

    I think we’re playing some of the best football we’ve seen in years at st. James park, certainly better than the year we finished 5th. I’m going to whisper this quietly incase someone takes offence….pardew is doing a really good job.

  • 97 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:22 AM

    tequila

    i’m TS not TDS, not being picky but there is another guy TDS here too.

    They do show we shoot a lot from outside the box though which isn’t ideal…but if we create enough chances in the box too it’s not as big an issue.

    I think it comes from not getting people forward enough in numbers so we are resigned to shooting from distance. Yesterday though we played how we should always play, attacking with good runners and people getting in and around the box in numbers, very good to watch

  • 98 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    tequilamag

    not many fans like Obertan, and if this is only AP signing than it’s sure evidence that he picks stupid players like Obertan, Shola, Jonas.

    and honestly we have an attacking team who play defensive when leading on goals not much tactical knowledge either

  • 99 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    tequila

    no problem with the name then haha

    ernest

    I think we are good to watch as even when not playing well we are always in the game as we can either score or concede so always on the edge of the seat, it’s entertaining.

    I suppose it’s just a human trait, no matter how much you have you want more really, a lot of us are like that.

  • 100 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    Who would you drop for debuchy?

    Taylor for me.

    But I think Pards may drop MYM. he likes players of his own Ilk. Clueless

  • 101 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    I wonder if people will ever get their heads round the fact Mashley and Pardew are here for the next six/seven years.

  • 102 Munster Mag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Catchy at 8 …..saying that you would want Sam ahead of Pardew shows you have zero credibility. We can all complain about managers – sometimes fairly, sometimes now. But wanting Sam because he ” sets his teams up better” ( well done for using some coach speak ) is just being silly, immature and spiteful.

  • 103 ErnestHemingway // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Oh yes, were always wanting more, I’m sure pardew has been asking Ashley for more for the past three years!

    On the shooting from distance thing…I think if cabaye has the ball at his feet within 25 yards from goal, that’s a chance to him….Ben arfa too….sissoko to a lesser extent. I don’t give a monkeys where we score from, as long as they end up in the onion bag.

  • 104 achtoon // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    comments WHU on their site ‘That would be career suicide . But I’d take again over tyat fat dinosaur swm. Ye done well to get rid of him!!!! How much did ye have to pay him of ??’

    i’m off to get the papers as reading this site i’d think we lost yesterday and we aren’t 12 point ahead of 10th place or 1 point behind manure. it appears we also want a couple of porn barons to own newcastle as that’s much classier than having a sports shop owner and we want to go back to one of the worst periods of newcastle history when we had ‘big’ sam as our manager.

    i give up!

  • 105 Novocastrian66 // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    I remember reading an article where BFS was blowing his own trumpet, he was telling the world what a great manager he is and how it was no surprise how teams he managed were relegated after he left. Quoting Newcastle and Blackburn. He was saying how they both got worse after he left, ignoring the fact that he bought most the players that were well last their best on ridiculous salaries.
    I would join one of Ruddy’s marches if Sam returned.

  • 106 Ancientcoptic // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    catchy “v man c

    most of you are smoking crack,,,

    any team can get hold of the ball and pass it in there own half, we are actually very good at that, given the appearance we are doing better than we are,”

    We played most of our football in the Man City half… you are just digging yourself into a deeper hole, by trying to come back from your comment saying you would prefer Allardyce’s set up over Pardew.

    You are more than welcome to your opinion, but there is a reason why the majority here will disagree with you.

  • 107 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Why did we have 2 LBs on the bench?

    Can’t understand why pardew keeps making this stupid sub replacing Santon. Haidara one week and Dummet yesterday

  • 108 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    TS probably most were from Tiote and he did say Carverkeeps telling him not to shoot !!
    I think we were 6th highest for total shots so even if only42% were inside the box its still plenty of chances being created in that area.
    Black and whitr Obertan has played 36 minutes in the PL this season. Jonas played 66 minutes.

  • 109 Munster Mag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Catchy, we were far better than West Ham yesterday. More possession, more shots on target ( they had 2 ) etc. Read the espn west ham headline from earlier – its on here , a few back – you will see that the writer would love Pardew back and the West Ham fans were fed up because because they want to play football like us !!!!

  • 110 JAMSHA // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Monaco have placed a £7m transfer fee on
    Stoke target Emmanuel Riviere, but Mark
    Hughes would prefer to bring him in on loan

    would get this lad n sell cisse for 12mil

  • 111 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    tequila

    yeh i said that with it being a % it’s not really representative of our total chances in the box.

    We are looking better this season though, not perfect but progress.

    I am always split whether to let pardew develop or just want a ready made top coach in…it’s hard to say but ultimately I have no say so just need to get on with backing the lads when they play.

  • 112 nufc_eire // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    How many new players does everyone think we need to actually compete with top 4? I count 9 or even 10 (and then more to replace anyone that leaves)

    Def: RB to back up debuchy, 2xCB for colo and willo
    Mid: Another DM and Back up to Cabaye
    Wings: 2 wingers
    CF: 2 more strikers

    Do-able in 4/5 windows if we sign around 3-4 players per window and clear the dead weight

  • 113 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    nufc-eire

    I think our centre backs are all decent, all do a good job…maybe one big CB with power bu not crucial (liverpool have awful CBs)

    I’d say we need another creative mid, a couple wingers and a couple forwards. So 5 I think.

  • 114 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    TS although I would be happy for a great coach to come to Newcastle I think it`s unlikely that we are going to have someone of that quality wanting to work for MA knowing he will have to operate at a lower level in the transfer market than his rivals. We are making progress but there are no quick fix shortcuts on offer

  • 115 Munster Mag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    Jimmy Smith…sorry mate, santon is a poor excuse for a defender, and ineffectual most of the time going forward. Technically good, but we can do miles better than him. Get rid.

  • 116 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    Himanshu –

    We have 2 lbs on the bench?

    Dummett is actually a centre back, who is played left back. Haidara is a left back.

    Why do we swap Santon…. 2 reasons. Santon is right footed so for attacking purposes we need the first time ball on a left foot he cannot offer. And 2nd they are both better defenders in terms of holding a lead than Santon.

    Anyword on Cabellea?

    Torq u have any info?

    And Catchy please Sam is struggling with a team built for long balls and crosses …. Pardew is ok, we could do better or worse , I think Sam would be worse!

  • 117 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    tequila

    It’s hard to say, I agree we won’t get a top coach, they all want big budgets and genuine trophy chances.

    I’d say pardew was an average mangers (in the grand scheme of things, ranging from fat sam to mourinho) so would say should we stick with pardew or get an average manager who plays an even more attacking game suited to our players? that’s the issue for me.

    If the club want to stick with pardew another couple of years, continue to slowly improve the squad and see where he goes then that’s ok…….if they want to kick him out and take a chance on a pochettino type that’s also fine.

    But I presume they’ll stick with pardew, they know he works in their system, i doubt we’ll ever look like going down with this side and he has most fans on his side so it’s ok.

  • 118 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    If Remy leaves we should go for Ibeseviv

    and we should try for Howedes for CB

  • 119 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    munster

    santon is a strange one, his defending isn’t fantastic but for a technically gifted player, which i’m sure he is from seeing him but his final ball isn’t as good as it should be.

  • 120 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    even in pards darkest hour last season the crowd werent on his back unlike fat sham who was accused of not knowing what he was doing after six games of his illustrious reign at nufc id rather have rather have grim shoeness back tbh which just shows what dross we have had since sbr was sacked

  • 121 TheToonKing // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    holy cr@p , people saying they’d swap Big Sam for Pardew….are you out of your d@mn mind lol ?!!

    Pardew is a good manager, not great, but good. I’m more then happy at how he’s running the team these days.

    Big Sam……rofl.

  • 122 nufc_eire // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    Transfer Sage

    Yeah I agree our centre back are all decent. I was just thinking that this is prob colos last season and willo is getting on a bit so a young replacement like Lascalles would be perfect.

    Also I do think we need specialist RB cover for debuchy. Ideally MYM is going to be our starting CB next season so we cant move him or santon out to cover.

    What do you think?

  • 123 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    TS I would urge to side on caution and stick with Pardew especially as we are improving. I new manager may well come in and do better but it`s a gamble and usually costly in terms of player turnover, new managers always want their own players. Poor Mata cannot get a sniff of a game under Mourinho after looking amazing last year.

  • 124 nufc_eire // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    Corchia would be perfect and i think I read somewhere he’s available for 3m??? That could be way off the mark

  • 125 Munster Mag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Catchy and go …read this….from a West Ham fan.

    Allsport
    Andy Carroll and Sam Allardyce were left to rue another loss. West Ham dropped back into the relegation mire following an awful 3-1 home defeat to Newcastle United. But it wasn’t only the lost points that disappointed, as the Hammers were given a lesson in passing football in front of a disgruntled Upton Park crowd.

    Yohan Cabaye and Loic Remy put on an unstoppable show — unstoppable at least in terms of the woeful defending of the Hammers’ back-four and porous midfield — and Cabaye’s curling free kick that settled the game with the last move of the match, was no more than the visitors deserved. Prior to that there was the unsettling feeling that Sam Allardyce might point to the glaring misses by Andy Carroll and Carlton Cole in an improved second-half performance from his side, and claim his team were “unlucky”; Cabaye’s kick that went in off the post in the 95th minute at least put that myth to bed.

    • Report: West Ham 1-3 Newcastle
    • Duffy: Classy Cabaye invaluable

    In fact, in a torrid first half in which Cabaye (16 minutes) and Remy (33 minutes) had put the Magpies in total control, the Boleyn crowd lost patience with the whole team, booing loudly as the men in Claret and Blue chased shadows in a demeaning and embarrassing performance in which Newcastle gave the home team a lesson in possession football.

    There was almost a touch of awe as Cabaye again broke down the West Ham flank part way through the half, shimmied this way and that as the hapless Matthew Taylor — drafted in at full-back due to injury — swayed back and forth completely mesmerised, before the crowd realised with some disbelief that the France international was actually waiting for a teammate to pass inside to. No hell for leather sprint for the line? No aimless cross high into the box hoping for someone to get on the end off? Nope, this was football played on grass and two feet, and the Upton Park faithful, weaned on stories of when their own team used to play like this, were as mesmerised as their own players.

    In fact, as the old football myths would have it, Carlton Cole’s chest down and attempted shot that bobbled off Michael Williamson and rolled apologetically across the line on the stroke of halftime, leaving the score at 2-1, really did seem to be proving that the most difficult thing to defend is a two-goal lead. To say it flattered West Ham would be putting it mildly; Cole even looking slightly embarrassed as he turned to celebrate an unexpected lifeline.

    It did lead to a more enterprising second half for the Hammers, and there really was some hope that at the very least a point could be salvaged as Matt Jarvis, Stewart Downing and later Joe Cole all got free in wide positions but weren’t able to deliver a final ball. But it was Matt Taylor’s lovely low cross into Carlton Cole — the resurgent striker completely miscuing to send the ball wide — and Carroll’s blaze over the bar in front of an open goal that will be most reported on and remembered. That shouldn’t disguise the fact that Newcastle had further chances of their own, though, Adrian needing to be alert on several occasions.

    The problem with this result isn’t just the defeat or the fact that West Ham once again failed to deliver back-to-back wins in the Premiership since being promoted — rather it was the way that Newcastle showed what could be achieved by players with confidence on the ball and the ability to control play. Cole was voted club “Man of the Match” after, but really it was the returning James Collins who was the most impressive — only for his ability to break up play, head the ball away and fight for possession, even if his clearance attempts seemed to end up with him facing the same situation several seconds later.

    Earlier this week, I was in print in a local paper defending the manager arguing that probably in this situation, Big Sam is the type of man you’d most turn to help you out of a hole but, more importantly, pointing out that no managerial appointments had been successful in real terms for the Hammers since John Lyall was ignominiously sacked. As I ticked off all the incumbents of the manager’s chair since 1989, there was only one who was left unscathed — and that manager was, of course, sitting on the opposition bench today.

    After this abysmal performance, it is becoming more difficult to defend Sam, who doesn’t seem to be able to balance his injured and suspension-stricken side to even give his team something to chase; as is being pointed out by many on the social media sites, West Ham were playing poorly and losing before the injuries struck.

    Alan Pardew, on the other hand, still fondly regarded by Hammers fans for the 2006 Cup Final and dealt a cruel blow during the “Tevezgate” scandal, has his side balanced and playing with some confidence. The way Remy was happy to dribble round defenders was a delight to see — even if it was painful for home supporters — and it was difficult not to wonder where the Hammers board were when the QPR forward was put up for loan during the summer. Personal issues with Pardew aside, I can’t help but wonder where West Ham would be now if they had stuck with the former Palace defender seven years ago.

    Regardless, West Ham now go into a dead rubber of a second leg semifinal against Manchester City in a literal no-win situation, and quite where the Hammers go from there is anyone’s guess. The person who cried out “the Championship” can please sit down.

  • 126 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    tequila

    but with chelsea they have the money to do that, we’d bring in a manager who knew he’d have to work with these players and only be able to move a limited number players on.

    nufc-eire

    Yh that’s not a bad shout, we probably will need a CB but we recently got curtis good, mbabu and also have streete…surely one of those must be given a go first?

    We could do with a RB as cover I agree, but i think we also need to move on one of santon, haidara and dummett as we can’t have 3 left backs really.

  • 127 Munster Mag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    Now what the F*** are you talking about —“Sam sets up his teams better” . You proper tool.

  • 128 Ancientcoptic // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    I hope Cabaye gets sold in this transfer window… he is going to leave in the summer anyway, either under webster ruling (god forbid) or by a big transfer fee.

    He has just put in one of the performances of the season, is still fit, the transfer window is open, he can play in the Champions League AND we have nothing much left to play for.

    We would be safer replacing Cabaye now, and constructing the side to hit the ground running next season.

    This webster ruling risk, and changing of the team for the start of next season isn’t worth the risk.

    Also, if Cabaye gets injured at the World Cup, and is out for 6 months… We may not be able to sell him until this time next year, and he could be worth even less with his contract running down and an injury behind him.

    I would love the guy to stay, but no contract has been offered, and I think it is too late for turning back now… he will not be happy about the lack of improved terms on the table… those are lost earnings to himself and his agent/s.

    As brilliant as he has been this season, he was quite dire last season, so there is always the potential that he could find that bad form again, after the World Cup.

  • 129 Munster Mag // Jan 19, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    Selected quotes from the West Han blog above…

    “Nope, this was football played on grass and two feet, and the Upton Park faithful, weaned on stories of when their own team used to play like this, were as mesmerised as their own players.”

    ” Boleyn crowd lost patience with the whole team, booing loudly as the men in Claret and Blue chased shadows in a demeaning and embarrassing performance in which Newcastle gave the home team a lesson in possession football “

  • 130 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Ancient, probably not a popular opinion but I can see the merit in the argument. It seems only a matter of when he goes not if so we need to maximise what we can get for him.
    If he signed a mew contract today though I would be more than happy to keep him, he is at the top of his form at the moment and will be hard to replace

  • 131 Munster Mag // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Yip, I think we’d better get Sam back…

  • 132 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    tequila

    for me now is the time to show we mean business and offer cabaye a big long term contract in the 80-100k region.

    Surely we can afford that and it keeps him at the club.

  • 133 Munster Mag // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    And did you see Sam’s pathetic interview afterwards and his fat moany face? If he loses 5-1 he’s have said it would have been a different game if they had got a second …yeah Fats, 5-2….

  • 134 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    @123

    some ppl on here (no names no pack drill) will think you made that up lol

  • 135 clinath@ed // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Cabaye’s won’t make a decision until AFTER the World Cup. If him and France have a poor tournament, no one will want him, and the opposite is true, then his price will have soared.
    Personally, I’d have his replacement in place this January, ready for the new season…just in case.

  • 136 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    TS I am not sure wages will be the deciding factor on whether he would sign a new contract. We are an improving club but nowhere near challenging top 4. I think Cabaye will choose to go because he feels at this stage in his career he should be challenging for titles rather than just being the biggest fish in the Newcastle pond.

  • 137 Munster Mag // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:09 PM

    I think if a good offer come sin for Cabaye we’ll sell him. Sadly if we did get , say 18 million for him, how much we spend on a replacement? From what I can make out, Cabella isnt a replacement for him as he is not a central midfielder?

  • 138 JAMSHA // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:09 PM

    who needs sam wen we have pardew… sam cnt even keep us in top 20

  • 139 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:10 PM

    It depends on what statute a top coach / manager? I think we could easily attract a top coach in the making with a game plan and say a vision for the club over the next 3-5 years :)

    …where is our plan? It has been 3 years already!

  • 140 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    tequila

    wages might not be the deciding factor, especially when psg have so much money he could have 200k a week easy

    i still think it shows him how much we value him though and might make him want to stay, or at least sign so if his form does drop or he has a bad world cup he still has a big income without a move

    at the least it makes us able to negotiate a better fee for him

  • 141 WorJordi // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:13 PM

    Just a thought !!!!!!
    The team go to Abu Dhabi as a tight knit unit, mid table team with a lot of international players who will go to t he world cup. A stadium that is world reknowned and a support base that is loyal and fanatical……
    Lots of multi billionaires in Abu Dhabi
    Shop window?
    MA setting out his wares for a sale?
    YOU JUST NEVER KNOW !!!!!!

  • 142 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    1 – We win and it means we won’t be signing anyone this winter
    2 – If we sign someone then he’s a replacement for Cabaye
    3 – If Cabaye stays then he’s off this summer and so are Remy, Colo and Krul
    4 – If they stay into next season then go to to step 1 and start again

    Some miserable canutes on here…

  • 143 lesh // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    Ffs Catchy, get a grip.

    You’d be happy with Sam coz you remember watching his bolton side, they played some really good football, he new how to manage his squad? For crying out loud, he cane to SJP and the fans really took to him and his football, oh yes, dud they not!

    Ashley’s first, and very rare popular move was to be rid of Allardyce and the fans loved him for it, for a few months anyway!

  • 144 lesh // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    Jail @33……..mackem fat Sam? Eh?

  • 145 pawl250 // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    Cabella anyone?

  • 146 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    I would much rather run into a sharp edge of a table than having fat Sam back :)

  • 147 bills-son // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    TDS @ 140

    That just about sums it up.

    Add in…..

    If we replaced Pardew another manager would get more out of the squad.

    No decent manager would work for Ashley.

    We are stuck with Pardew for another six years.

    …… And that ties it all up nicely.

  • 148 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    Jesp, quite correct it would depend on who was brought in, I would disagree though that we can easily get a top coach in the making. If they were already a top coach then no they would not want to come, if we are talking about a potential top coach the the emphasis would be on potential ie he could just as easy sink as swim. With Pardew we know what we are dealing with good and bad and at the moment are making progress.

  • 149 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    R Team In 6 Yards Box In 18 Yards Box Outside of Box
    1 Crystal Palace 9% 42% 49%
    2 Fulham 9% 41% 50%
    3 Manchester City 8% 60% 32%
    4 Stoke 8% 47% 45%
    5 West Ham 8% 51% 41%
    6 Manchester United 8% 56% 36%
    7 Chelsea 8% 47% 45%
    8 Liverpool 7% 50% 43%
    9 Everton 7% 47% 46%
    10 Newcastle United 7% 36% 58%
    11 West Bromwich Albion 7% 54% 39%
    12 Cardiff 7% 42% 51%
    13 Norwich 6% 46% 48%
    14 Arsenal 6% 57% 37%
    15 Swansea 6% 44% 50%
    16 Hull 6% 43% 50%
    17 Sunderland 6% 40% 54%
    18 Southampton 5% 46% 48%
    19 Tottenham 4% 44% 51%
    20 Aston Villa 2% 44% 54%

    we have the highest no of shots outside the box

    lowest number inside the 18yard box

    thats why cisse does not score

    it is also because we dont get people into the box

    these stats are not just one game , there based over the season
    so its fact

  • 150 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    Tequila…I cannot give you any guarantees mate! But I honestly think we could get a top coach or top coach in the making :) we might just not agree upon what statues a top coach in the making?

  • 151 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    Cabella looks like a outstanding player. With great off the bal movement. Seems like a no.10 player. Attacking playmaker.

    All this is by Youtube anyway, Even obertan can look great.

    But Cabella is wanted by ManU. hope we get him just for that!

  • 152 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    Catchy we also have the 6th highest amount of shots so even if only 42% are inside the box that is still a lot of chance we are creating in the box, more than other teams with a higher % split inside the box. We are also 6 the highest scorers. Is this the same Catchy that criticised people for praising Pardew as Table watchers and only looking at the sats ?

  • 153 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:31 PM

    Bills

    And of course…Ashley doesn’t care about the fans BUT Ashley hired me as a plant to post on this blog…

    Maybe MA should appoint FFS as chairman and KK as manager and then watch them mess it all up, then say that he’s going to bail us out if we ask nicely but he’ll charge interest this time…

  • 154 tequilamag // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    Jesper. well we will never know the answer to that one till the question is asked, if your correct I would be delighted .

  • 155 Munster Mag // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    Rotunda, I agree with part of what you say but we are consistently in the top 8 all this season and thats acceptable, given that we are “the best of the rest” .

  • 156 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/3853/Stages/7794/TeamStatistics/England-Premier-League-2013-2014

  • 157 70TWO // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    Munster Mag

    Nice article….they did make us look good. I think the most telling situation was when Santon had the long range effort in the first half, it was so predictable from the half way line but they didn’t even try to tackle him.

    Really enjoyed getting a win again and looking forward to being given the same time and space at Norwich. What happened after the break? Our midfield seemed to disappear, I could not work out if their defense was playing it forward more quickly or we stopped pressuring them, or both. Would like to continue with some other points but will stop before I become too negative, which is undeserving after such a fine win.

    Allardyce better than Pardew…..Catchy if you are in Norway, take another look at that statement when daylight returns.

  • 158 Ancientcoptic // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    Allardyce at Bolton = Hoof the ball to Kevin Davies.

    Allardyce at West Ham = Hoof the ball to Andy Carroll.

    West Ham are the only team in the bottom 5 that are languid and looking certain for the drop. Sunderland, Fulham & Palace have made good managerial changes, the rule is still out on Cardiff, but you know Cardiff will be strong at home.

    Allardyce is a con-man pretending to be an elite level football manager… not quite sure how he pulled it off, but top marks for blagging.

  • 159 clinath@ed // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    Ilovetoon….is Manu such an attractive proposition to a player at the moment?

  • 160 kilcline // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    I would drive Pardrew down to London myself.

    Wish we had a cortese to make a cut throat decision and get a youn manager in who will take us back to the top 6 where we belong.

  • 161 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:37 PM

    tequila

    so are you saying its good to just shoot from anywhere,

    we dont and never have got numbers into the box,,

    the stats also explain why we kill CF,

    even shearer would struggle under pardew

  • 162 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM

    catchy

    you even managed to shock your biggest ally on here – rotonda you are in danger of becoming the north korea of posters

  • 163 Ciaran // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    Catchy

    I think you’re on your own when you say you want Fat Sam ahead of Pardew. Surely you have to admit that we played some lovely football in the first half yesterday?

    Granted, I was disappointed with his tactical decisions in the second half, but he doesn’t have a lot of options on the bench. Our football suffered when Anita was brought off but we still played more attractive football than West Ham ever managed in the whole 90 mins.

  • 164 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    jesper

    bumble doesnt have the vision or ambition for that he cant even see we are crying out for another striker

  • 165 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    Tequila…if Pardew would just improve on certain parts of his play and evolve it approach then I would be okay with him for the time being :)

    …but it has been 3 years already and I am not really seaming it. – doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen :) and it is just my opinion on how football should be played anyway!

  • 166 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    like i said

    read what you want from what i wrote

    but i never said i wnted sam back

    imo, he knows what he wants on the pitch, something pardew does not,
    and thats my point,

    i do not want him back, i think he is a very poor manager, but he is better than pardew

    fat sam at whu 39.67 % win rate,
    percy at nufc 39.04 with a much better squad to play with

  • 167 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM

    idk if this has been posted already http://www.footballfancast.com/football-news/courbis-hits-out-at-newcastles-transfer-approach

  • 168 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    *seeing

  • 169 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    catchy

    fat sam’s though includes a season in the championship

  • 170 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    Ciaran

    we won yesterday

    but how many games have we lost because of pardews silly HT talks

    WHU are on a really poor run right now, and for all the good football we played yesterday, they created much better chances

    the 3-1 score line covers the cracks

    its well documented on here, we have won 1 game from a losing position, v 9 men
    byt we have lost a lot more from good winning positions

  • 171 70TWO // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    catchy in norway

    “id swap big sam for pardew any day of the week,”

    However, I am still embarrassed by once saying that Pardew could one day be as good as KK &SBR – it would take a brain transplant.

  • 172 Ciaran // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    Catchy

    Sam spent an entire season in the Championship with West Ham so those win percentages are not truly reflective of who is the better manager. Pardew plays with a much better style than Allardyce, so what makes Sam better? Because he plays with an identity? That identity is hoofball so that hardly makes him a better manager?

    I’m not Pardew’s biggest fan but to call Sam a better manager is ever so slightly mental.

  • 173 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    Wolfs…I don’t Ashley is out to get us and would deliberately sabotage us should he be looking for new manager at some point!

    …I know it is joke in here 😉

  • 174 Ciaran // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    Catchy

    Don’t get me wrong, I agree with you on that score regarding his HT team talks affecting us. Pardew is not the best. He’s distinctly average, but to claim that Fat Sam is better is wrong in my opinion.

  • 175 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    *think

  • 176 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Transfer Sage

    that might be so, but he still has to get them winning games,

    and like i say, our squad is far better that WHU

  • 177 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    catchy

    they had 2 good chances for carroll and cole

    but did you watch the game? we played great in the first half, we had enough chances to have 5 at half time, very very good chances created we should have finished.

    west ham had their goal which was a scrappy effort and 2 other decent chances, that’s it

  • 178 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    catchy

    true but he had a west ham team which was one of the top 2 sides in the league and he only just got them promoted through play offs.

  • 179 Ciaran // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:55 PM

    My stance on the manager is that he isn’t great, but not terrible. I wouldn’t want to inflict Ashley on a good manager so let’s just stick with Pardew until Ashley leaves the club. A new owner would have the presence of mind to get rid of AP and JFK.

  • 180 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    in the prem league west ham have won 16 out of 60 games and spent a good amount of money on that side as well.

    thats just over 25% win rate in prem league

  • 181 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:58 PM

    Ciaran

    thats your opinion

    but i have to say, when i watched WHU yesterday, i didnt see the hoofball,
    i seen lots of crosses going into the box
    players trying to get to the byline,

    70two

    i have never ever said pardew could be as good as SBR or KK,
    i think pardew struggles to get to sam A level

    back to work :(

    house wont fix itself

  • 182 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:58 PM

    TS…That was not a great game yesterday and that second half was just food for thought mate;)

    …the first half was great mostly down to one player and that was Cabaye. I refuse to build that performance or tactically approach up to something it wasn’t!

    I am just thankful for Cabaye and the three point and hope we will do better the next game!

  • 183 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 12:59 PM

    catchy

    keep your powder dry till we get beat by the scum and or chelsea haha

  • 184 Ciaran // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:00 PM

    Catchy

    Then we weren’t watching the same game clearly. Nearly every second ball from a West Ham player in the second half was a launched ball forward, especially when Carroll came on. It was horrendous to watch.

  • 185 catchy in norway // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:01 PM

    ts

    all that good work could have easly been undone,,

    and like i have said many times

    i think we have a great squad, and can do that an much more

    the subs killed us yesterday

  • 186 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:01 PM

    jesper

    it’s not just down to cabaye though, there was so much more movement than recent weeks.

    Cabaye was pulling the strings but sissoko, remy and gouffran were running in behind really well, they were getting into either good positions to shoot from or good positions to cross the ball from, was very impressive.

    the second half wasn’t fantastic but we had limited options on the bench and west ham are no mugs either….they have some decent players (not amazing but can cause problems) like downing, carroll, joe cole, etc

    we haven’t got a team good enough to dominate for 90 mins, good enough to win games but sometimes we needed to dig in.

  • 187 Transfer Sage // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    catchy

    what other subs could have been made? we haven’t got that much on the bench, it all worse than what’s on the pitch…..it’s difficult to swing momentum back our way when he has to turn to shola

  • 188 Ciaran // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:06 PM

    Catchy

    We have a first team of good players with one or two very good players. Our squad behind that is poor. You said HBA and Cisse would have been better options than Shola but frankly, I don’t agree. HBA came on and was his usual indecisive poor self, and Cisse is quite frankly deservedly behind Shola in the pecking order.

    Santon was leaving us exposed so Dummett was put on. I disagreed with taking Anita off but given how few options Pardew has can we really slate him to the extent that you are doing?

  • 189 JAMSHA // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=151337&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=240

    look at the comments on west ham fourm on match day 😛 .. enjoyn readng it

  • 190 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    @187

    i feel sorry for them we know what its like having sham as a manager of course his style of play is more suited to real madrid

  • 191 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    to 70 two from yesterday sorry about delay in replying.had a football day yesterday .watched sunderland v soton ,us on stream, juve v samp a very good game for italian football two teams trying to score plus ssn. grenier is a very good midfielder their midfield is very good with goucouff as well .must admit apart from last game have hardly noticed fofana as lyon spent more time attacking. going to watch reims v lyon which should be a good game shortly.pawl 1250 at 114 dummet is a left back who can play at cd as lpool . however is not brilliant there.has played at central defence for the reserves in the last two games because they have no cover at right back and moved the best reserve defender satka to right back with disastrous results in last game. toonarmy at 36 bigi is injured out for at least 4 weeks.campbell has scored 2 in 4 with 1 assist and is playing behind a big striker or alongside wheras he normally plays as a sole striker.it will probably do him abit of good being on loan. ts at 114 cg is better at lb. mbabu is injured again he has stated he prefers rb as he is injured the reserves are playing satka at rb with bad results as he is a good cd. streete has also had alot of injuries and must be 50 /50 whether he gets his contract renewed in summer.

  • 192 Rake // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:18 PM

    The subs killed us? I don’t agree. West Ham where better second half and we where not keeping the ball as well as the first half. For this reason Pardew took of Anita who I thought was excellent first half and put Shola on. The reason? I would say to hold the ball up further up the field. Shola did an ok job at that but as usual offered little in front of goal. Santon was letting people run past him for fun strafing backwards like Bambi so Pardew replaced him with Dumment. I personally think Dumment did rather well and would like to see more of him. As for Ben Arfa I won’t to love him but He’s so frustrating, there was an opportunity for him to pass the ball to Cabaye on the edge of the box which he choose not too. Then Cabay won the ball back and Ben Arfa had another shot at goal. I think it’s a bit like Mata at Chelsea he doesn’t fit into either system we play because he can’t do a job defensively. I know some people argue he comes on with little time and is better when he start’s but quite frankly for his talent does he make an impact when he comes on?. I just find myself left frustrated by his decision making time and time again.

  • 193 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:18 PM

    catchy,
    Today is probably the first time you’ve ever posted after a win, we did come under the cosh in the second half so if you look at it one way you could say we lost the second half, although we did score one to their none, is losing the second half the reason you’ve decided to post after three points or did you post after the Spurs game,

  • 194 wolfshead@toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:20 PM

    ciaran

    are you still arguing with catchy hes having a chuckle mate

  • 195 70TWO // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:23 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I believe the reason why Shola came on was because Remy was not holding the ball up and so relieved our defense, it does make me wonder why that was the case and why we were not able to overcome their resurgence with the players on the pitch?

    Why move Cabaye back and then reinstate the #10 role with HBA? Although Remy was continuing to waste possession. We seemed to go from 4141 in the first half, to 442 with Shola and then 4231 with HBA, did these changes actually make a difference?

    We do seem to have a bit of a ‘sticking plaster’ side with players out of position doing a job, it is working but I wonder if real wingers would throw the side off balance.

  • 196 Ciaran // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:24 PM

    Wolfs

    I don’t argue with Catchy any more, no real point. Sometimes he does make some very good points but then there are times when he comes out with things like he’d have Fat Sam before Pardew. Madness.

  • 197 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:26 PM

    TS…but we only dominated for 45 min if we really dominated that half. I am not sure I would say we did, but I am thankful for Cabaye 😉

  • 198 lesh // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Catchy, you surprise me knowing that Sam Cooke wrote A Change is Gonna Come.

    Judging by your posts and lack of vision displayed therein, I’d have said you’re 50 years too young to have even heard the song let alone knew who did it!

  • 199 Jail for Ashley // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:39 PM

    lesh,
    The fat fraudster played for our lowly rivals.

  • 200 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    Rake

    If HBA is frustrating for not passing the ball to Cabaye in the 2nd half what do you make of Remy in the first half , there was a chance for him to lay off Anita but he choose to shoot which was blocked…..should we drop Remy as he does this on a weekly basis?

    I’ve just watched the full game and dummett did well when he came on, the 2 big chances West Ham had yesterday came from crosses on our left (there right) Gouffran let Rat pass him and put it on a plate for Carlton Cole (where was willo) glad he missed that sitter, 2nd chance went to Carroll this time dummett lost the winger and AC should have scored, no one has mentioned this but you can be sure if it was Santon he’d have got blasted for it!! I think the time has come to take santon out of the firing line, within a month most on here will be calling for his return

    One of the best things to come from yesterday’s game was the fact that our wingers got an assist each, just goes to show you that all strikers need service, we should have finished west ham off as we were fantastic in the 1st half but make no mistake that west ham team was shocking and ravaged by injuries and suspensions, Marty Taylor was right back!!

    I think Munster was referring to some article where west ham fans wanted Pardew back after watching how we played yesterday, I ask would any fan want to watch what Big Sam serves up every week? I certainly wouldn’t!!

  • 201 cbtoon82 // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    Not sure if anyone has already posted this? But we’re certainly not the worst in the league for bringing through academy players. However the whole of the prem is well behind any of the other top 5 leagues.

    http://i.imgur.com/TYrx5N7.jpg

  • 202 Our Toon // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    The subs were a bit strange in my eyes, Anita who was fantastic should never have been taken off, when the team is under the cosh what we need is ball retention and no one is better at this than Anita…..if the opposition don’t have the ball then they can’t score!!

    On the subject of youngsters, I don’t think some of them have been given a fair go, perfect example is Bentelab of spurs who is playing again today, this 18 year old played well against Southampton and hasn’t been dropped for a bigger name as his manager is rewarding him for doing a good job!! Can you imagine Percy doing that? Abide seems to living up to his hype in Greece amazing what a run of games does

  • 203 lesh // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    Jail for Ashley.

    Thanks for that little snippet @199. And because they’ve benefitted from Sam’s prowess, they’re still paying the price! That’ll teach ’em.

  • 204 bills-son // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:53 PM

    Pardew’s half time talks are poor?

    Does your stream include a microphone in the changing room?

  • 205 70TWO // Jan 19, 2014 at 1:59 PM

    Our Toon

    IMO it has been a wasted opportunity not to move Santon over to RB and establish himself there, he obviously has a good right foot, but limited to his right foot in both tackling and offense. He has become to predictable going forward as cutting in should be the surprise move from a LB, not the consistent route.

    All three fullbacks used yesterday struggled at times and Sissoko was their main assistance. It has been good for Mbiwa and Saylor to get game time to remove jitters, but with Debuchy back who should retain a starting place?

  • 206 Rake // Jan 19, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    @Our Toon

    Remy not passing to Anita was ludicrously greedy. I’m not sure you would drop a Striker for backing himself nor would you HBA. It’s still frustrating having players take shots when they have such simple passes to team mates who are open.

    I like Santon don’t get me wrong but there are times where he does some very odd things defensively. I would like to see which ever CB is next to him screaming at him and really helping him out with his positioning.

    I would like to give Dummet a run in the team. You might be right we might all be saying get Santon back in there but I would like to see Dumment given a few games is all. Then bringing Santon back could help him play better who knows.

  • 207 nufcusa // Jan 20, 2014 at 3:10 AM

    Catchy – big Sam sets teams up better than Pardew!

    That is a classic. I admit Pardew has his failings and they need to be addresses if we want to progress further, but so did KK and SBR yet that statement is an embarrassment. Your nothing but a windup merchant who should stop writing your utter drivel.

    As for the get said he posts genuine comments. Where? Show me one.

    We can all have opinions and I will agree with some and not with others but some people just post stuff to get a reaction. I have not seen a thoughtful and insightful dialogue one here for a long time. Someone please help me.

    And before people chirp off that I’m in the USA and don’t know what it means to be a fan. Save your voice. I still have a season ticket with my dad in the Gallowgate and I am in year 27 of having that.




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