Yohan’s Been Very Good – Our Team Is Centered Around Him


I mentioned this morning that one way to view the way Mike Ashley runs Newcastle United, is that he runs it like a bank – where the only important thing is money – cool cash.

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Bank manager at Newcastle – Mike Ashley

And so when a top club like PSG comes in and offers what the owner wants for one of our very best players – Yohan Cabaye – Mike will sell.

And then once he’s got the money, the owner and Joe Kinnear, our Director of Football will do their level best to bring in a replacement in the few days that are left of the January transfer window – but Newcastle may not be successful in bringing a replacement in.

So would they not do the deal unless they get a replacement in before Saturday – no.

They will always take the money when it’s a big transfer deal for the club, and Alan Pardew will have to make do with what’s left come next Saturday.

Much like it was three years ago when we sold Andy Carroll on January 31st, 2011 – it could be deja vu – all over again.

This is what Alan Pardew has said in his press conference today – yes we play Norwich City tomorrow night in East Anglia:

“Yohan’s been very, very good.” “He’s preparing for the Norwich game. I expect him to play.” “The conversations about him are going on above me. My job is to get the best out of him.”

“He has a great role at this football club. The team is centered around him.”  “He’s an important cog in our system. If you take him out of the team, it makes us vulnerable.

“We’ve got to protect ourselves going forward. That’s the situation at the moment.” “We’d need to bring in someone, for sure. “You can’t lose a player of that quality.”

Joe Kinnear – with Mike Ashley’s guidance – will be doing the negotiations to sell Cabaye to PSG, but the man who decides everything in the transfer market is owner Mike Ashley.

And it would be tragic if we sell Cabaye and cannot get a replacement in, and it seems Newcastle’s number one replacement for Cabaye would be 23 year-old Lyon’s Clement Grenier – who would cost around £10M – and he certainly looks a very good skillful player.

Here’s a report we had out earlier today on the Lyon midfielder.

Let’s hope if we do sell Yohan, that we can get Grenier through the door before 11:00 pm on Friday night.

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491 comments so far

  • Toonfan8

    Jan 27, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #1

    if we sell Cabaye we need to bring Grenier and Cabella too for that money…and De Jong too on loan…

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  • cjtoon

    Jan 27, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #2

    Spoof:

    No offence Cabaye isnt close to mata in an attacking sense. He is very good granted Mata is World Class i actually think £37 mil for mata is a bargain tbh. Why bale is worth double that and more i really dont know.

    Last season for club and country mata played 75!!!!! games racking up 5,266 mins with 22 goals and 39 assists. can we behave saying cabaye is nearly as good in an attacking sense. Plus mata is a couple of years younger and probably hasn’t hit his prime yet whereas Cabaye is arguably entering his.

    Yes granted he is a lot better defensively and sorry i did mean to put its hard to compare the two as they are not both outright number 10 players. I just think mata is in another league but obviously that is my opinion and i would imagine we need to agree to disagree.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 27, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #3

    cj

    Im with you, mata is an out and out number 10 where as cabaye isn’t, cabaye is more combative but mata’s stats are there for all to see.

    since he joined chelsea only 5 players have been involved in more goals than him (scoring or assisting)..rvp, rooney, suarez, aguero and walcott.

    Mata is the type of player ben arfa should be with all his quality.

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  • Nufcjoss

    Jan 27, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #4

    I don’t care how much we get for Cabay. There is no way Mike will spend the amount we get in, on the replacement. Any leftovers goes elsvere, and by that I mean pub-tabs etc. Don’t sell our best man Mike, use your small grey damit.

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  • jayphoto

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #5

    Mata is an elite level player! Cabaye is a very very good player but Mata is a player you build a top side around! His vision and technique is superb! I rate him as the best creative player in the Premier League with possibly only Suarez, Aguero and Toure ahead of him! If Ozil was worth 42m then man utd have got a bargain

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  • jayphoto

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #6

    Quite hopeful that Cabella was never intended to replace Cabaye if we’ve gone for Grenier! Be amazing to see them both at NUFC in the summer

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  • JAMSHA

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #7

    if he goes ill be gutted.. will miss those long
    30 yard goals an free kick 🙁 … fk u m.a

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  • cjtoon

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #8

    Can i also point out i never thought i would utter the words that £37million is a bragain for a player…..euurghhh feel a little sick….

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  • Toonfan8

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #9

    Transfer Sage
    HBA will never be that quality Mata is…Mata has great vision and intelligence on the pitch, HBA is more dribbler…he will never reach Matas level…

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #10

    We will be left short yet again through the ineptitude of those who run the club

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  • cjtoon

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #11

    or a bargain*

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  • theartfuldodger

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #12

    Cabella, Grenier and De jong – That just isnt happening

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #13

    TS…it is not really the same because in our example we had agreed on a price 😉

    …until then it’s my car and my rules!

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  • Spoof

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #14

    cjtoon

    with all due respect even if a manager dislikes a player, if that player is world class then he will not be a reserve ?

    but the main point of my post was to gage what would be a fair price for Cabaye using Mata as a comparison, for me I would rather have Cabaye in my side than Mata, so in an ideal world we should be looking at £37.1m+, now you value Cabaye at a lower value than Mata, which is fine, but I’m pretty sure the different values would not be that great, £5m max which still leaves Cabaye at £32m, basically, based on current prices with Mata at £37.1m then I really do feel that we are selling Cabaye far too cheaply if the figure is less than £35m, possibly £30m as he is as you say a bit older than Mata.

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  • Toonfan8

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #15

    when we sold Cabaye and bring nobody, then M.A. is complete prick, he can use Cabs money to bring three good players in Grenier, Cabella, De Jong(Gomis)…if he use it this way, we will be better than now…

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  • jayphoto

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #16

    Problem is if we sign Grenier, Cabella and de jong/gomis is that Pards won’t have any excuses left next season

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  • Bambams

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #17

    JFK…..Has only managed to bring in one player and that is a loan.

    Feel confident ?

    I dont.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #18

    When Liverpool made the worst signing in their career and paid us £35M they didn’t really do as bad as being suggested.

    Before they paid way over the odds for Carroll they had told Chelsea they wanted to bring ín a replacement for Torres and they wanted to come out with a profit of £15M!

    Carroll cost them £35M and Torres cost Chelsea £50M. WHam paid Liverpool £17M.

    In the end Liverpool still made money 😉

    Now why don’t we operate like this?

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  • Spoof

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #19

    Toonfan8

    we said exactly the same when Carroll left, and Pardew did expect to get that cash for team building, but he never got it, the same will probably happen again, whether we sell him for £35m or for 10 bob, it will make no difference to what Pardew will be permitted to do when it comes in incoming players, this is why my wish is to never sell at any price, even if it’s £100m, I would still say don’t sell as all we as fans will get is a weaker team.

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #20

    The biggest issue with selling Cabaye is that he is the heart of the team, everything good that we do goes through him, without him we have little attacking threat.

    Plus we have little to no chance to see any replacement coming in with Ashley and Kinnear at the helm

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #21

    god of nufc CIARAN

    Im thinking you know not as much as you think

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2012/nov/28/cristiano-ronaldo-strength-weakness

    http://www.portugoal.net/index.php/more-euro-2012-news/34666-ronaldo-riled-after-poor-performance

    now im not saying he is a bad player,, I think he is the best on the planet right now,

    but he is not a team player

    nor was I saying HBA is any where near as good, but if Ronaldo is worth 80+ million, HBA under the right manager who let him play with more freedom would be worth more than he is right now, at least 1/4 of Ronaldo, right now you would be lucky to get a 1/10 of that

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #22

    thing is all you toon fans the communication from the club is there is likely no players coming in so if there has been a change with regards to selling cabs and buying a replacement(s) ash or one his lackeys could say so no wonder he gets so much grief anway im off to replace a pic of one silver fox for another ooh jose ur such a smoothy

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  • Bambams

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #23

    according to newsnownewcastle Cisse is not avail for Norwich match Pards says he has ‘hurt his back’……

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  • Spoof

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #24

    jesper

    don’t forget that buy selling Torres they only spent a total of £10m to get both Carroll and Saurez, they have now sold Carroll for £15m so in a sense Saurez has actually cost them -£5m, with Saurez being something in the region of £80m, that means Liverpool have made an £85m profit, as you say that is good business.

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  • Neil

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #25

    It’s dreadful timing given the game we have on Saturday. We all know Ashley will get a good price for him but I don’t remember this doing us much good when it comes to playing at the weekend. If he wants to go then he should but we should have his replacement through the door beforehand. I’m sure Pardew/JFK will try and pedal the fact our squad is better than it was etc etc

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #26

    Bambams

    he was used a luggage boy in Dubai

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #27

    god of nufc CIARAN

    Im thinking you know not as much as you think

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2012/nov/28/cristiano-ronaldo-strength-weakness

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  • Graeme

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #29

    Sky just announced that Puma are to pay Arsenal £20 million a year for 5 years to be their Shirt Sponsor!!

    Errrrrrr how much does FCB pay for Stadium Advertising?? Oh, ZERO!!!

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #30

    bye bye cabaye

    you will be missed

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  • cjtoon

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #31

    spoof:

    Are you trying to say Mata is not a world class player? if so i very strongly disagree. Not entirely sure why mourinho didnt want him in the 11 but they are well stocked in the no. 10 position at chelsea

    The fair price for every player is waht anyone is willing to pay. To judge on recent transfers you need to choose the same sort of player mata a no 10. is very different to cabaye who is more a box to box player. Although different in style Fellaini may be a better comparison as they both defend and attack well, granted id rather have cabaye in an attacking sense but fellaini defensively and in terms of a presence in the air probably shades it. Man Utd payed 28mil for him and cabaye is older so maybe £25mil is around his value

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #32

    I agree with Simon Bird in the Mirror this morning.
    He argues thus.
    Regardless of anything else , this summer, whether Cabaye buys out his own contract or not NUFC will not get as much for him as at this moment in time.He has said he wants CL footy so we may as well maximise now on a player who doesn’t want to be here.
    We have no pressure for the rest of the season so we can survive without YC and perhaps even experiment with midfielders already at the club.
    There is no need to replace until the summer when generally players are cheaper.

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #33

    Jeff from Benwell

    Thats the biggest issue with Ashley and co, because we are under no pressure this season they will cash in on Cabaye without laying out anything for a replacement. As for waiting until the summer to replace him, well if any of our targets have a good world cup their value sky rockets and puts us out of the picture.

    We are about to sell the best player at the club yet again and we all know how long it took us to find a replacement last time this happened

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #34

    toonfan

    yeh i agree he wont be anywhere near that good

    jesper

    but i agreed a price for a working car, if it comes back dented and broken the deal would be off, leaving you with a broken car and no money

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  • Spoof

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #35

    Jeff

    why maximise for a better price now, Pardew will not get the money to spend, so lets keep him for as long as we possibly can, if his value ends up dropping so what, it still won’t affect what Pardew can and can’t do as either way he can do nothing.

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  • lesh

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #36

    They’ve supposedly bid £10m for Grenier, expect at least £20m for Cabs and can sure as hell expect Lyon to increase their asking price when they’ve got wind of Cab’s final fee.

    Absolutely clueless or is Ashley just going through the motions…… Again!

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  • corkypants85

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #37

    SORT IT OUT KINNEAR YOU USELESS F#!CK!#R!!!!

    A REPLACEMENT SHOULD OF BEEN SIGNED THE FIRST WEEK IN JANUARY, WE ALL NEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN NOW WE ARE GUNNA BE HELD TO RANSOM WITH WHO EVER WE GO FOR!!!

    ONCE AGAIN WE ARE A LAUGHING STOCK

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  • mag

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #38

    Mata overpriced bench warmer and not even a regular for his country. Chelsea must be having a good old laugh at Moyes panic buy.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #39

    Spoof…great example mate 🙂

    …it is not about how much money you get per sat, but what you get in return. The only thing NUFC should worry about is what kind of profit do they want and who do they want to replace Cabaye 🙂

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2014 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #40

    mag

    Mata is a two time Chelsea player of the year and is only a bench warmer because of Jose not liking the player…………….and as for him not be a regular for his country, well he is behind two of the worlds best players who would keep anyone out of any starting 11, be it club or country

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