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Pardew Hopes For Good News From Joe Kinnear Wednesday

11:58 pm, Tuesday, January 28th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 74 Comments

Alan Pardew was interviewed after the 0-0 draw with Norwich City on Tuesday night, and he talked about the game, the sending off of Loic Remy – and also the coming to Newcastle of Dutch International Luuk de Jong on loan – and that deal is through the end of the season and should be announced tomorrow.

Alan Pardew after ManU 1-0 win-6382853

Alan Pardew – hoping for good news from Joe tomorrow

But his parting line was that he would be meeting with Director of Football Joe Kinnear, and he hoped Joe would have some good news for him other than on Luuk de Jong.

This is what Alan said:

“I will speak to Joe tomorrow, hopefully they have worked hard today and hopefully we will have some positive news when I wake up.”

Newcastle have lost Yohan Cabaye, one of Newcastle’s most skillful midfield players ever,  and this is what Alan said about the Frenchman:

“We looked a little bit different without Yohan Cabaye but in a good way. This club is never going to be about one player.”

“For sure Yohan Cabaye would probably get in my all-time Newcastle best XI. For us he was outstanding. We wish him the very best and I hope our fans do. He wanted to leave.”

“We were honorable to him. He’s got a dream move and we have to use that money wisely now, like we did with Andy Carroll.”

“In that summer we brought in Yohan and a couple of others that took us forward, so that is how we’re going to have to try and break into the Champions League places now.”

Newcastle are hoping to get in a Yohan Cabaye replacement before Saturday, but that will be a very difficult task, and the number one target seems to be Lyon’s central midfielder Clement Grenier.

Grenier has only just turned 23, and the French International would be a very good replacement for Yohan – who was simply great for Newcastle in his short 30 months on Tyneside.

We are hoping that Newcastle fans also get some good news tomorrow from Director of Football  Joe Kinnear.

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74 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ErnestHemingway // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:00 AM

    Good news from Joe kinnear?

  • 2 Sazzer // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:04 AM

    hopefully they have worked hard today…

  • 3 manxpie // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:05 AM

    manxpie // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:04 AM

    tino from last thread
    you only have to look at some of the posts about sammi before the game to see the shit some players get even 1 of our own lol

    blofal true mate we’ve bottled it the last 2 games hopefully they know wat its about now
    1 thing i’m sure about tho is debuchy will show up for this game he seems to know wat passion and footballs about up here
    player of the season for me
    even at the last few minutes of the game ya could see him blowing badly trying to get up the pitch!
    if we play like tonight against the scum and have our finishing boots on we’ll win and easily tbh

  • 4 Sazzer // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:07 AM

    They should make a new Joe F**king Kinnear rap:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCPJWyqfFQI

  • 5 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:11 AM

    I wouldn’t like to be waiting for good news from Joe Kinnear if my job relied upon it.

    Would you?

    LOL

  • 6 jimmysmith // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:11 AM

    Just letting you all know that if we don’t sign anyone, it’s all their fault……… just quietly, and backing away from what appears another smoking wreck of a transfer window.

  • 7 sparky55 // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:14 AM

    We didn’t win but our form is good…we have every chance on sunday…even without Remy.

    the wat to beat the scum is to go after them for the whole game…we have to keep them on the back foot.

    Gus will out-think Pardew for sure so pressure pressure pressure is key just like tonight

  • 8 Belfast // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:19 AM

    Never fear, Joe will sort it out.

  • 9 Sazzer // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:19 AM

    Kinnear on Facebook.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Bf0Ak05BE

  • 10 Thump // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:25 AM

    He’s got a dream move and we have to use that money wisely now, like we did with Andy Carroll.

    Uh….

  • 11 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:26 AM

    Joe, please sign Luuk De Jong, but not Look Ding Dong!

  • 12 GAZ09 // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:26 AM

    Apparently 8.5m bid has been made for Grenier

  • 13 Belfast // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:28 AM

    That’s only 6.5 million under the asking price Gaz lol

  • 14 GAZ09 // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:31 AM

    i agree 8.5m will never be accepted

  • 15 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:41 AM

    Thump,

    Which means we will spread the fee across the board for whatever we need in the squad..

    Instead of bringing in a proven centre mid who is likely to make an immediate impact to follow cabs, we will bring in an up and coming who hasn’t been tested in this league. A player who is unhappy or not doing well. Too see if we can make a profit on him in a couple of years IF he does well. Then back to square one.

    Who is next?

    Debuchy. Has my bet.

  • 16 AndyMac // Jan 29, 2014 at 12:53 AM

    The only good news emanating from JFK’s mouth would be his retirement speech.

    As for Grenier – leave it out! The boy deserves far more than joining Noambition United !

  • 17 jimmysmith // Jan 29, 2014 at 1:00 AM

    From the silver linings play book, happy to hear that played well individually and collectively by most accounts, and in particular Ben Arfa, and so that now he will, if perhaps only due to necessity, get the extended run that will surely by this late stage be make or break for his future on Tyneside and our immediate fortunes.

  • 18 ONLINE GUY // Jan 29, 2014 at 1:06 AM

    Best comment I read yesterday when the news broke of Cabaye’s transfer was this one from 9

    “Drama queen alert ! ”

    still laughing .

  • 19 usmagpie // Jan 29, 2014 at 1:38 AM

    Where to start with this one Ed, YC has gone yes and yes we are not a one man team, but without him we are not an 11 man team either. Joe #$%^ING Kinnear better have done some magic, I mean no offence to his work ethics but surely like every other Geordie and non Newcastle United supporter we all knew he was probably going in the Jan window. So surely just by pure thinking about it, JOE $#@%ING Kinnear had a back up plan in place. I mean if any one in that job needed a clue all he had to do was read all the posts about Newcastle United to know what we knew two – three months ago. God fingers crossed but he is my prediction. In the next three days Newcastle will great news we have found a replacement for YC, we have bought him and loaned him back to the club and he will be ours at the end of the season. ( Of course he will be out injured for about three months. but what a prospect.

  • 20 Our Toon // Jan 29, 2014 at 1:57 AM

    How much did we miss Cabayes set pieces today, how much did we miss his long range shooting….Sammy and HBA were more of a threat than Gouffran and Sissoko have been in any match!! Good performance but we needed a goal!!

    As for Remy….what a stupid boy, glad Percy didn’t stick up for him, it’s well known that if you raise your hands it’s a red card both players raised there hands and deserved to get sent off

    Imagine that performance with Sammy and HBA and then think about Cabaye being in the team with them 2 either side!! We missed him big time, already 2pts dropped

  • 21 Jail for Ashley // Jan 29, 2014 at 2:14 AM

    The Caroll money, mmmm, I thought the Nolan fee paid for Cabaye and Enrique paid for Santon, in fact we had a net spend of 1M that summer, fair enough the AC money paid for Cisse a whole year later, can you imagine if we had 52K and TV money as well.

  • 22 Jail for Ashley // Jan 29, 2014 at 2:16 AM

    From NUFC.com:
    Cabaye: au Revoir Reports circulating on Monday evening that a revised bid of an undisclosed value from PSG for Yohan Cabaye was accepted by Newcastle have now been confirmed.The player will now leave the United squad preparing for tonight’s match at Norwich to undergo a medical before signing on the dotted line at Parc des Princes.Cabaye is in line to debut at home to Bordeaux on Friday evening and should make a return to Champions League action midway through next month, when PSG face Bayer Leverkusen in the first leg of their last 16 tie. What proved to be Yohan’s final action as a Magpie came at Upton Park on January 18th, an added time free kick hitting the net for his 18th Toon goal in his 93rd game.Tragic and inevitable in equal measure, Cabaye’s exit is the latest manifestation of our declared policy to buy players, increase their market value and sell for profit. That’s a bigger version of Crewe Alexandra’s vision – but lacking any elements of success, ambition or silverware. Keeping hold of Cabaye in August was a genuine plus, his goals and general play instrumental in our current top ten placing. Where we’d be without him is unthinkable. Like the Carroll sale, the supporters become victims of his success. The points earned via him have propelled us to a place of safety now – meaning that he can be cashed in on with no threat to our top-flight status and the rest of the season can be written off as a non-event.    They may have more time than when Andy Carroll left in 2011, but whether United have the ability and desire to sign a replacement this week remains to be seen. Given previous experience you’d think not, on the basis that we’re not in the perilous situation of a year ago and there’s therefore no need to actually spend any cash on a permanent signing. It’s debatable whether a loan would even be sanctioned by this mob, if they think we can muddle on until the summer with what we’ve got.Quite what effect this has on United’s French contingent (in particular Mathieu Debuchy) is another imponderable, but in it immediately hands Hatem Ben Arfa a route back into the side and sees messrs Obertan and Marveaux undeservedly edge back into the first team picture.    Whether overseas players (and their agents) now view Newcastle as a valid career move in the light of Cabaye’s elevation at both club and international level is one line of thinking, but that edges further towards the football mercenary scenario and relies on the scouting network continually sifting out chancers like Xisco from talents.Cabaye isn’t the first and certainly won’t be the last fan favourite to leave, but in terms of replacing optimism with disillusionment for another generation his absence will be keenly felt. No player is bigger than the club, but there’s a void that needs to be filled very urgently. The only slight benefit is that he’s not remained in the Premier League, thus making it easier for us to “move on”….The wisdom of building a successful team round a strong spine becomes ever more difficult to apply when looking at our current squad – and this summer looks like being among the busiest for years in terms of player exits.    The unrelenting diet of disappointment that Newcastle supporters are fed shows no sign of altering, but while this remains a one club city, its fan base is no longer as stoic or steadfast as it once was. Estranged, perhaps.”Good business” then we’ll doubtless be told, but another one those invisible threads connecting fans to their club has been severed when the proceeds are just trousered.Sadly, it becomes ever more justifiable for fans to also decide that it’s “good business” for them not to buy tickets – not just for meaningless cup ties, but for what are meaningless league games. Presumably the players would be fined for finishing in a European spot.Rather than there being a riot (as the Cabaye song says), there comes a point when people say “why bother” to financially or emotionally back a club whose deliberate policy is not to achieve anything of worth on the field. Selling your best player – again – is a neat way of highlighting that policy. 

  • 23 p // Jan 29, 2014 at 2:23 AM

    @18 that was me actually

  • 24 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 29, 2014 at 2:31 AM

    Jail,

    Think that just about wraps up my whole thinking on what is NUFC aswell. Sad and bewildered.

    On that note.

    Goodnight.

  • 25 theartfuldodger // Jan 29, 2014 at 4:47 AM

    Yeah… Let our bargaining begin.
    They want 12 ? Offer 8. They want 8 ? Offer 4. They want 15 ? offer 9.

  • 26 Novocastrian66 // Jan 29, 2014 at 5:04 AM

    theartfuldodger; They think they’re negotiating with Trigger.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwKFc6jclK8

  • 27 maikelw // Jan 29, 2014 at 6:12 AM

    I am not quite sure what newcastle is looking for but for the money we’ve received for cabaye you can add some more depth and quality. Have a look at rodwell, ince young and talented players as well. Don’t get players like obertan any more we need some guys with real added value for the team

  • 28 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 29, 2014 at 6:39 AM

    Thought we performed quite well last night. First half in particular.

    I’ve been very critical of Sammi in the past, particularly his loan spell at Boro where he failed to cut it, but I thought he was very good in the first half last night. But then in the second half I barely realised he was playing still.

    HBA had a decent game, a few mazy runs, the odd defence splitting pass – threading the ball to Sissoko out wide and behind their defence stands during the first half stands out in particular. But again with him he tried to do too much too often when the better pay would be to give the ball.

    Anita Tiote and Sissoko looked decent as a midfield trio, and the back line were never really put under a huge amount of pressure, and other than the odd Norwich chance we never looked too threatened.

    One criticism, and it isn’t just last night is Sissoko’s inability to stick with his man, either at set pieces or when he is tracking back a midfielder off the ball, the opposition lose him far too easily.

    I agree with Pards on the Remy red, both players raised their hands, which in itself is a red by the laws of the game, plus going head to head and they left the ref little option. Mind you, I’m fairly certain Johnson has previous for going down pretending to have been head butted – did he not get Joey Barton sent off for QPR a couple of years back when Joey did exactly what Remy did? Cheating tosser.

    Puts us in a dodgy position for Saturday though, how long are Cisse and, more importantly Goofy out for? Take Cabaye, Remy and Goofy out of our side and we lose 24 of our 32 league goals for the season. Other scorers are HBA (3), Cisse (1), Dummet (1), Debuchy (1), Sissoko (1) and an OG. Of those we could maybe hope HBA (who may be injured) or Sissoko scores, but can’t rely on the others really.

    Lets hope LDJ hits the ground running….

  • 29 catchy in norway // Jan 29, 2014 at 6:51 AM

    I don’t know what to make of the match last night, as I only got to see the second half

    from what I read on here Sammy had a good first half , but for me he went missing in the second, the only good thing I seen from him was a great pull back that HBA should have scored.

    HBA was the class player on the pitch , getting hacked down in good areas,

    I have to say though I thought it was a normal nufc performance , all show and no bite, and from the half I watched they had the best chance,

    shola only enhanced his donky reputation for me, if he is a striker , why is he always ten yards behind? has anyone really seen him sprint ?, he always just jogs ,

    even without cabaye , that should have been an easy 3 points,

  • 30 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 29, 2014 at 6:59 AM

    I had a nightmare; I woke up this morning, cold, wet, shaking to the horror that we had signed Charlie Adam!

    …that a horrible dream that was!

  • 31 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:01 AM

    Catchy,
    The first half was a far better display, we should have been a couple up inside 25minutes. HBA should have scored from Sammi’s cut back, Remy came close, and we almost benefitted from an own goal.

    Still, to have been so dominant in the first half and not taken our chances is a problem. You have to convert that dominance into goals.

  • 32 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:03 AM

    Jesper,
    I have seen several rumours stating that he is the target to replace Cabaye. There is a glimmer of hope in this though, as it all seems to originate from Talksport, who get maybe 1 rumour in a million correct….

  • 33 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:08 AM

    Catchy…sadly the second half wasn’t great – I joked about it at half time, whether Pardew would pardewed the team for the second half (l’ll leave that up to others to decide)?

    …Benny was great for most parts -of course hr still need to work on a few things but who doesn’t

  • 34 cyprus // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:17 AM

    It seems many on here didn’t watch this game, so here is my take:
    First, let’s put the whining ‘no Cabs’ to rest. We were better, more incisive, with more clever through balls behind their backs than in many a game. The addition of HBA and Sameobi was more than positive, it gave us an urgency and them a sense of danger every time they got the ball.
    I went with the TV presenters MOM (Sissoko) but there were others who played very well: Krul made a couple of excellent saves when he was needed, though mainly he had a quiet night. The defense was rock solid, with the full backs making excellent runs. Would be unfair to single out a player there. In MF, well we didn’t miss HIM. Tiote his usual bossy self, Anita very efficient, Sissoko energetic and dominant. The ‘wingers’ HBA and Sami were brilliant, special mention to the latter who seems an incredible talent. I thought he would not make the grade, he’s definitely up for it. Up front, Remy was very good, just unlucky not to score.
    Now, some people who didn’t watch the game might say, see no Cabs no goals’. Not true, at least the way it might be construed. We had a couple dozen shots, hit the bar like 3 times, HBA missed a shot he would bury 8 out of 10 times.
    You guessed: I enjoyed last night’s performance.

  • 35 sa80teur // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:21 AM

    We lost that fixture 4-2 a couple of seasons ago, and that was with Cabaye in the side.

    Could have done better but some perspective is required. Let’s not mark ourselves down for relegation just yet.

  • 36 check the toastie // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:30 AM

    Cyprus – totally agree, we played very well, Pardew must take the plaudits for his selection, always rated Sammi myself, needs to work on his stamina but looked a real talent in the first half.

    Sammi = The new Chrissy Waddle.

    I think people should just forget about Cabaye, for me he is becoming some sort of percieved ‘Messi’, i have seen him disappear in so many games, he has been virtually anonymous through most of his NUFC career, 20 million is a super price, he will warm PSG’s bench.

  • 37 Transfer Sage // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:30 AM

    Good words from Pardew twice this week now.

    The first he said if a player like cabaye goes he must be replaced, now he is saying use the money to push for champs league.

    It sounds like he is finally telling Ashley what he needs, good of him to say it and the ambitions for next season….lets see what JFK and Ashley do now to back their man.

  • 38 pawl250 // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:32 AM

    I think 8.5 is a platform on which to start. I would imagine 10m will get him.

    Its like selling a house for 130k you price it 135k so when you are knocked down they think they are getting a bargain and you are really getting what you want.

    Luuk De Jong, Grenier, Siem De Jong, Baft Gomis would be fine and roughly all for the price of Cabaye.

    We would then have to look at getting rid of Jonas, Obertan, RTaylor, Goslinf and Shola in the summer.

    Hopefully looking for Cabella and perhaps sealing Luuk or Remy on permanent!

  • 39 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:33 AM

    Lilo
    Great round up off the match spot on

    Sage
    In all fairness he lays that challenge down to the board every season, having said that he knows they have the Cabaye money so he won’t out up with the “can’t go into the clubs overdraft” BS!

  • 40 Jail for Ashley // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:35 AM

    I’m over the Cabaye sale, tbh I was over it before he went as it was inevitable just as Krul and Tiote will be, although reading that article I posted saddens me a little.
    Two things that got me though was what was the point of JfK saying nobody would leave, we didn’t believe him anyway and it’s only strengthened the belief in those that think the club deliberately put together a pack of lies, secondly why has it taken having to free up Cabayes wages to bring in a much needed loan striker, can we assume that had the Cabaye deal fallen through that LDJ would have stayed put and we would have muddled through with the injured Gouff and suspended Remy as our only two goal scoring forwards.

  • 41 AusMagpie // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:35 AM

    Hey fellas,
    I’m a huge Newcastle fan and I’ll be coming over from Australia at the end of the year to see them play. Just wondering is it difficult to get tickets? I’ve watched every Newcastle game for half my life (10 years) and it always looks sold out.

  • 42 cyprus // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:36 AM

    Check,
    Totally agree with your second paragraph.
    On Sami, mea culpa, I honestly thought he was there only because of his big brother. I don’t know if he’s the new Waddle, but the talent is certainly there, he terrorised them and has greatly reduced his mistakes. He seems ready for first team action.

  • 43 Transfer Sage // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:37 AM

    check

    I was never sold on sammy last year, thought he seemed lazy and wasteful. This season at the start though I thought he had some very good games when he had a few sub appearances and a start in the cup….I found it odd he totally disappeared from being in contention but glad he is back now and looking a threat.

    I’m still not convinced his final ball is good enough, but he is doing the simple stuff quite well and is always good for beating his man. A bit more practice on crossing and picking those killer passes and he could turn into a real talent for us.

    He’s a bit like santon in that he covers a lot of ground without looking like he is moving quick at all.

  • 44 Transfer Sage // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:39 AM

    tads

    I suppose, after we came 5th he listed 3 players he wanted and none of them came in (debuchy, a big CF and CB). But at least now he has said he wants to challenge champs league.

    So if at the next fans forum the club state top 10, or top 8 is the target we know they don’t value pardew’s opinion and won’t back him enough….which is wrong.

  • 45 Jail for Ashley // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:40 AM

    Pawl90210,
    To answer to your post the new opionated P has just turned up claiming to be a regular poster under a different name, and his pompous arrogant writing style reminded me of you, that’s all.

  • 46 Newcastleforlife // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:40 AM

    i enjoyed the performance yesterday… we had 22 shots …
    but our set pieces/free kicks were bad(understandable… hope will improve as new set piece taker will practice)…

    The only thing i am missing about newcastle now is a proper number 9… Loic remy/ Ben Arfa are false no.9/no.10..

    We need a better Anita…

    am i the only one against spending 13 million on grenier/cabella???

    my options are :
    Go for song(barca willing to sell,<10 million)
    diego,gorcruff,raul garcia(<5 million,last year of contract/teams eilling to sell)

  • 47 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:41 AM

    Lilongwe…it is not even funny mate ;)

  • 48 Transfer Sage // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:43 AM

    newvastle for life

    Song thinks highly of himself, won’t drop out the champs league i wouldn’t have thought.

    Those others i’m not sold on, flashes of good play but never solid. Grenier seems the type who is consistent and what we need. Cabella too, looks like a good player…would love them both.

  • 49 JAMSHA // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:44 AM

    JFK TO PARDEW ” i have a good news pads, we have sign de jong, now stop moang u got ur player, see u nxt summer”

  • 50 Transfer Sage // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:45 AM

    sa80teur

    that game we lost 4-2 we had perch and simmo as CBs….more down to that than cabaye.

  • 51 Novocastrian66 // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:47 AM

    Ausmagpie; a lot will depend on who we will be playing when you’re here. If it is against a top side you may struggle. If it is against a lower team you will be okay.

  • 52 pawl250 // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:47 AM

    You have to look at it positively ….

    Who have we sold who has “made it” so to speak?

    Best – got 4m and he got injured pretty much the day later! Shame but good money!

    Ba – release clause seen him leave, but he has not made the impact I am sure he would have hoped. When Chelsea end up buying their new Drogba I.e had they bought Rooney this summer he will be gone, or simply never get a game. He is very much 3rd choice with Lukaku set to return in the summer he will be 4th choice at that point.

    Carroll – Went from 35m potential to flop, so much so they sold him only 2 year later for less that half the price, which was still massive amounts of money and clearly he has not been worth that right now. 8m would be my maximum bid for him these days, and that could be generous in some people’s eyes.

    Perch – Wigan, that is all.

    Nolan – West Ham, used money to get Cabaye I know who I preferred out of the two. Their is a reason Nolan was 4m and Cabaye 20m.

    Barton – Really since his departure the only trouble the club have been in is that of its own. Not many off field dramas or on field for that matter. We were a soap opera and Joey was one of the main cast, among likes of Ranger. It was always bad news. He was a great player, still is but he is in a QPR team that is sitting in the The Championship with no certainty for guaranteed promotion. When they do come up he will be dropped upon a spending spree we all know QPR will make!

  • 53 check the toastie // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM

    Always been super critical of Parsnip, but i must say this year he has done well, we seem to be intent on playing decent football and the team last night was super positive.

    Well done Parsnip and well done the boys for last night, we have come a long way from a couple of years back. And dont bring up the fact we finished 5th two years ago, we were absolute shite most of that season. Hoofball it was barring a few games.

  • 54 Newcastleforlife // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:51 AM

    TS..

    Cabaye out… Grenier In..

    Any improvement in starting11?? I dont think so!!!!

  • 55 Ben3arfa // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:52 AM

    The terms “KINNEAR” and “GOOD NEWS” are NEVER EVER synonymous.

    Old flop

  • 56 Transfer Sage // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:53 AM

    check

    i’ve been critical of Pardew as well this year but we have tried to play football on the deck, my main criticism was out intent, we often go to defensive but he seems to be correcting that a bit more now.

  • 57 Jail for Ashley // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:55 AM

    I really don’t get this thing about pointing out how players that have left have flopped, all that is highlighting is that we have over rated them as fans and they’re not really that good.

  • 58 pawl250 // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:55 AM

    JFA

    You know how hypocritical you sound right?

    Arrogant? Pompous? Easily words that could be used to describe you.

    Unbelieveable Jeff!

    As for the new P whatever his name is I 1 have never seen him and 2 am not him.

    I don’t post all the time because I simply at times cannot be bothered with the likes of you, opposed to being bothered with the many other posters.

    But I am not sad enough to type under a different name. Assume what you want but that is a fact.

  • 59 Transfer Sage // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:55 AM

    newcastle for life

    of course it’s not an improvement, well not in the short term for sure…who knows long term.

    All i’m saying is we need to make sure he is replaced with somebody who can do a good job for us, we know we won’t buy proven prem players so somebody with the potential of grenier is a good signing in context.

  • 60 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:55 AM

    Sage
    Personally since he’s been here i don’t think they have really ever fully backed him, when ever he’s made a statement of intent on transfers, league targets etc they normally say or do the opposite
    It’s my one degree of sympathy for the bloke tbh

  • 61 Newcastleforlife // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:57 AM

    Pawl…

    Our sales were brilliant once the Ashley regime.. The only exception was Milner…
    70% of Carr’s signings were brilliant as well… we have only williamson,taylors,ameobi,krul from championship season talks volumes of our restructuring process…
    But top 6 is a step that is long way off….

  • 62 Transfer Sage // Jan 29, 2014 at 7:58 AM

    Jail

    Exactly mate…..why say this guy failed, that guy failed….it’s probably why we never really sell players as ours aren’t actually that good. They aren’t good enough to match the top clubs.

    Carroll was bought on potential, not on current ability as he just had 1 good half season.

  • 63 Transfer Sage // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:00 AM

    tads

    yeh i guess it’s true, but i’m glad he has said it now instead of reeling out lines like we can’t compete with x, y, z or we haven’t got the buying power of southampton, at least he has shown his ambition for the club.

  • 64 pawl250 // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:01 AM

    JFA

    We did over rate these players as fans.

    Barton, Nolan, Best all were very average players even Carroll who was really unproven at the time.

    I feel Carroll was very much our main player and we focused on his strength to make him look better than he was, as in a normal team his form would suffer from it.

    Ba and Cabaye are the only two who are good enough to make our team.

    Cabaye, going to PSG will find it tough, but 20m is mere buttons on what they have or will spend on future players making the whole we over rate our players a silly comment.

    Its like saying who would you play Eden Hazard or Ba, I mean we very much mis used Ba when Cisse come, so to get him in our team we put him on left wing.

    6m striker arguably at his best, or 30 odd million Hazard who is lightyears ahead yet still not even at his peak as a player.

    Yet Ba would still walk into our team.

    The highlight is simply the grass is not always greener, and I think Cabaye will also see this. Should he not get in PSG team Deschamps made it clear those that do not play regularly will not be picked for international duty, as seen when Cabaye had his wobbler in the summer.

  • 65 bollance // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:03 AM

    Check

    Good honest post as always, good to see the ironman is back, permanently?

  • 66 Novocastrian66 // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:04 AM

    JFA; it could also mean that Pardew got the best out of those players.

  • 67 bollance // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:07 AM

    On Sa Ameobi

    Unfortunately i could not tune in last night to the game but i gather he had a good game.

    As he only started playing properly after the age of 10 he was always going to be a later developer.

    However, like lots of wingers he lacks consistency which i gather was his pitfall at ‘boro.

    Maybe now is the time to try to bring him through after seeing the season seemingly fizzle out?

  • 68 Slank // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:08 AM

    Last night’s match was one of those where the best team doesn’t win.

    It was similar to us against Spurs were we were battered but won. Last night we were in total control and apart from two saves by Krul, Norwich offered provided little.

    As someone as previously mentioned we missed Cabaye’s long range shooting and his free kicks although Remy was unlucky with his. I thought the three upfront were great. Very fluid and always prepared to take their man on. Sammy certainly deserves another go after that first half performance. My only disappointment was not seeing young Armstrong make a late cameo but I’m sure there will be lots of opportunities in the months and years to come for him, hopefully.

  • 69 lesh // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:09 AM

    jimmysmith @6

    My feelings exactly….. It’s not my fault, Kinnear’s let us all down (says Pardew stepping away from Kinnear and Ashley)

  • 70 Transfer Sage // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:10 AM

    pawl

    In fairness Ba should really start at chelsea, there’s more goals in him than torres and eto’o…he’s just not a mourinho player, just like mata wasn’t. (not that ba is as good as mata).

    But arsenal wanted to bring in Ba at the start of the season, he is a good player and a goal scorer, think he suffers at chelsea as not a big name and not a huge fee so almost looked down on.

  • 71 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:11 AM

    Pawl,
    Let me just see if I understand you, because all of the players sold haven’t done incredibly then we were right to sell them?

    So had we kept Ba last season we wouldn’t have been better off in the second half of last season or the first half of this?? Utter nonsense mate. I guess Freiburg will be over the moon they sold us Cisse seen as he is struggling here but scored for fun for them and now they are struggling for goals?

    It is completely irrelevant how a player does after he leaves us, what is key is their importance to us when they are at the club.

  • 72 Jail for Ashley // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:11 AM

    Pawl,
    I apologise for being pompous and arrogant, footballers are very competitive people and the vast majority of them believe in their ability, once you have a certain amount of wealth it’s not just about the money, Ba, Cabaye and Remy believe they can play regular CL footy, AC imo hadn’t much choice in his decision to leave, Gabbiadini made a good point about it used to be enough to be the main man at a club until the gulf in wages and CL football were introduced.

  • 73 pawl250 // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:12 AM

    If you look at the clubs above us

    Man Utd
    Man City
    Arsenal
    Spurs
    Liverpool

    They have all spent heaps of money on one or two players I.e 25-30m or more on likes of Suarez Modric or Aguero, Mata, Ozil list goes on.

    Everton are very much the only team not to do so. But with Lukaku they stepped up as he is a 30m player just on loan.

    Next season, even this season I think you will Everton fall back into place around us.

    We simply cannot compete unless you spend 30m on 1 player! To think otherwise is ridiculous.

    Spurs have done it somewhat smarter, slowly building and that is what we must do. They have paid some big moeny for certain players but had to sell their best players to do so.

    I mean they sold Keane to Liverpool for 23m was it, bought him back for 9. Think they did the same to Defoe?

    Then selling Bale allowed them to do so this season in terms of spend big.

    They have also been consistently finishing higher in the league for several years and are getting some decent money in recently expanding their brand.

    I watched them play in China and they were going mental for Spurs, as they were City.

    Its important to recognise the reality that we are not in their league and arguably never will be.

    Sitting above Man Utd then they spend money 37m on Mata and hand out a 300k a week contract to push them up the table …..

    How are we expected to compete?

  • 74 catchy in norway // Jan 29, 2014 at 8:18 AM

    jesper

    im thinking pardewed ;) for the second half

    i remember watching shola and thinking if he can do can what he does outside the box inside it , he could be a world beater , sadly he couldn’t and gained a lot of weight (muscle as he is quite ripped)

    I fear that Sammy will go the same way , the boy has talent and is still full of running, but there is no end product to his game, so all we get is energy from him,
    fergy is better, he can cross the ball, pardew even said he can peel oranges with that left foot , what ever that means,

    Adam Campbell is a raw prospect , but he needs to be given game time , sending shola on is like holding up a white flag, he creates very little , at one point last night he ran out to the right, ran away from the play , he should have been sprinting for the box , AC would be in there faces , chasing things down , making things happen for others

    I also think hidarra should have been on a lot sooner for Sammy , he seem spent in the second half, pardew leaves his subs way to late,

    for me a lot of you guy see a change, I just don’t see it, if plan A is not working , there is nothing else ,

    I fear that LDJ will end up just being a target man for long balls,

    sissoko was my MOTM , he never gives up , but HBA was very close




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