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Pardew Resigned To Losing Cabaye – I Have To Deal With It

9:37 am, Tuesday, January 28th, 2014 by Ed Harrison · 267 Comments

Alan Pardew was gutted when we lost Andy Carroll three years ago, when Liverpool came out of the blue on the last day of that transfer window, and offered Newcastle a ridiculous £35M in cool cash for Andy, and owner Mike Ashley took the money.

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Alan Pardew – expected Yohan to play tonight – he will not be playing

Alan Pardew gave his press conference yesterday for the Norwich game – and he was cool and looked very relaxed, but at the time he was hoping Cabaye would be playing for Newcastle tonight and on Saturday against Sunderland, but of course that will not happen now.

And he did say Newcastle couldn’t take the blow of losing such as class player as Cabaye without replacing him, but of course Alan’s role at Newcastle is to get the best out of the players we have – and Mike Ashley, Joe Kinnear and Secretary Lee Charnley are the ones that do the deals in the transfer window.

Alan had this to say today about Cabaye:

“You need big performances at club level. The goal is to wear the blue shirt and be selected by your country.” “I don’t want Cabaye to go.”

“We have not indicated for one moment here from the owner down to any of my staff that we want him to go, not one iota.” “You are talking to a manager who actually when he lost Andy Carroll, lost a massive part of a team that wasn’t safe.”

 “We didn’t have 36 points when we lost Andy Carroll, so it was a hell of a blow.”  “I still maintain that was one of my best periods as a manager at this football club, getting us safe that year.”

“So in terms of my mentality, I’m just strong about it. I am the manager and I have got to deal with it.”

It’s not completely clear what the transfer fee agreed with PSG is for Cabaye, and generally it’s said to be close to £20M, but the base fee may be lower than that but L’Equipe are reporting today there is a €5M add on clause – based on appearances.

But it seems Yohan’s gone, and he will take his medical in Paris probably today and then sign on for the Paris club.

So Yohan spent only 30 months at Newcastle in the Premier League before returning to France.

It’s now important that Newcastle get two wins at Norwich tonight and against Sunderland at home on Saturday, otherwise the Newcastle fans will not be happy.

And it will help the mood on Tyneside if we can get a good replacement in before Friday night, and there’s four days in which to do that.

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Tags: Coaching · Newcastle News · Premier League · Transfer News and Rumours · Yohan Cabaye





267 responses so far ↓

  • 1 catchy in norway // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    martoon

    I think you may fall into one of those mentioned by MR T

    pardew is the boss of a massive club, you need to have balls to run it,
    if not you will be walked all over,

    he shows that he is a coward by staying and taking it,

    he could use the onwner never backed me to kick on from 5th card to new clubs,

    crystal palace where sniffing as are west ham, but he knows his contract here is a good one, so he will sit it out until he is fired

  • 2 Rotonda heights // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    our toon

    Ash, pardew and JFk are all pathological liars with vested self interests.

    Pardew: ”Now way will carroll be sold”
    JFK: ”No one will leave this January”

    Not saying these aren’t good deals, especially Carroll, but if you as a manager get a kickback or commission for any player sale especially on the scale of the Carrol one, how much integrity have you got ?

  • 3 catchy in norway // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    catchy in norway // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Rotonda heights

    even remy has gone backwards

    first 11 games scoring goals
    last 11,, been pardewd

  • 4 Rotonda heights // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    Spoof

    The tragedy is that marveaux is anything but s….e, as his moments of quality have shown, but along with cisse and benny just seems to have sunk without trace.

  • 5 stuart no9 // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    stuart no9 // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:38 AM

    well, I said at the start of the season , a mid table placing was the best we could hope for if we could avoid injuries and didn’t sell anyone,however , all change again and is anyone really surprised by the sale of cabs. Again a perfect example of nufc being a selling club, even the minority hardcore of fans who simply refuses to believe that, must now however feel they have no more excuses to justify their argument. A sad day, but one that was on the cards as soon as 20m was mentioned Ashley suddenly comes to life and proves once again – NUFC mean nothing to him – NUFC FANS mean nothing to him- AMBITION – mean nothing to him- MONEY IS EVERYTHING.

  • 6 Ben3arfa // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    “We would need to bring somebody in, for sure. You can’t lose a player of that quality and not replace him, but we are going to need some time to do that. ”

    Thats pretty much saying that we MOST probably wont sign the replacement in January.

    Pardew the Puppet

  • 7 Vask // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    Loan deal agreed for Luuk De Jong, should be in by the weekend apparently.

  • 8 Vask // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    Make it permanent in summer and get his brother to join him.

  • 9 Santon03 // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    I think we are still good this season even without new players in.
    Last time we sold AC, we have the greatest comeback 4-4 vs arsenal not long after that.
    Barton, Nolan, Jose were sold and the doom & gloom squad moaning that we will be relegated and we ended up 5th position.
    Whatever others said, I’m still positive that we have good squad to challenge top 6th.

  • 10 geordiemark // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    the way I see it is fat Ashley wont bring anyone in well he may swap krul for de jong but that 60million plus the sale of cabaye hes rubbing his hands well today

  • 11 geordiemark // Jan 28, 2014 at 9:55 AM

    good luck to cabaye he is a very good player thanks for the service to the club he has given

    the owner doesn’t have any ambition for us that’s why he constantly takes money out of the club and shoves it in his back pocket every year hes done the same thing just this year has been a good year for robbing us blind

  • 12 lesh // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    catchy in norway……. Sometimes it takes a lot of strength to manage when being undermined. Anyone can throw a hissy fit and flounce off!

    Give the man a bit credit – he needs all the support he can get at the moment, not sniping from someone who wouldn’t know where to start!

  • 13 Nomad // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    Dear lord help me if we don’t get anymore signings in. Interesting to note that pre Cabaye leaving, we had a 10% belief of loss against Norwich tonight, which is now what, 37%?

  • 14 sparky55 // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    it’s a shame…but we all knew it was coming didn’t we?

    Had we been hovering just above the relegation slots then the gentlemen’s agreement stuck up after the August fiasco would held true…but because we’re safe and have nothing to play for he was allowed to go.

    and because we’re safe and have nothing to play for and nothing to lose, Fat boy won’t be held to ransom now everyone knows we’ve got 20 million so only De Jong will come in during this window…so no replacement for Cabs and no top 6 finish which was definitely on the cards had Cabs stayed.

    Fat boy wins again…don’t you just hate the fat b@st@rd!

  • 15 monasnyr99 // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    Luuk de Jong medical at NUFC according to Borussia Tweet

  • 16 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    lesh

    You need to help yourself in life though. If you let people walk all over you they will.

    Pardew has a strong hand at the moment, he has the support of 80% of the fans according to the survey in the chronicle. Ashley has much less according to the same survey.

    Even if he stood up to ashley, doesn’t need to throw a hissy fit, if he is sacked he will walk into another job.

  • 17 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    If it’s true the fee is £20 mil PSG have got a bargain, it will cost more than that to replace a player of Cabaye’s importance to our team

    Ashley put up or f**k off

  • 18 bzak12 // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    If by chance we were to replace Cabaye, why not buck the trend and not go french.What about the Swansea lad on loan at Mackems-Ki he looks their best player and Swansea are looking to sell. He wont cost half of the Cabaye fee and it would stick it up the unwashed.

  • 19 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    lesh

    also it’s not like me or you where losing out on work for 6 months could hit us hard, he’ll have enough in the bank he could retire tomorrow and live a good life.

  • 20 sparky55 // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    I missed that survey and didn’t take part…so make that 79%!

  • 21 ash1001 // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Blood Boiling, Lets cut out all of the crap, Pardew stands on the forecourt of St James telling the whole world (exc NJC Publications) “that its going to be difficult to hold on to Cabaye”, he like a carsalesman with his latest model on offer to the massses. Whos next Pardew, what about the vintage models like Shola.
    We have a billionaire owner, 3rd highest gates in the PL and we are a selling club, but more to the point we the fans do not matter one toss.
    Wonga are issuing clappa boards to create atmosphere on Saturday, would much rather put Pardews and Ashleys heads between them to create my own atmosphere.

  • 22 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    Be interesting to see Pardews interview after the game tonight, he should be f**king livid and from this minute until the window slams shut he should be shouting as loud as he can at JFK to get a replacement in

  • 23 RUNAWAY777 // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    when will our fans wake up and get real,no players coming in and you never no maybe another one to leave, anyway cant see us getting anything tonight and iam worried about scum who will be on a high now.

  • 24 Slank // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Well we knew he was going to be sold but I didn’t think it would be in this window but PSG came calling with the right amount of money and, if we are to believe the stories, this would be the second time Cabaye has asked to leave.

    I wish him well and thank him for the enjoyment he brought with his skill, determination and class. Bon voyage.

    So what happens next? Who plays at number 10 today and who will be in that shirt next week? Would like to see Ben Arfa given an opportunity.

  • 25 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    ash

    that’s my biggest issue with ashley, not so much transfers (not ideal but not awful) but the way he treats fans. He has no respect for tradition, our opinion, our history, our former greats…he purely cares about cash and thats it.

  • 26 martoon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Catchy @1 – I don’t full into that category but I don’t blindly blame Pardew. These things are going on above his head – I’ve no doubt behind closed doors he will have a few things to say but in public he has to show a united front. As I said earlier I’m not surprised Cabaye has gone but I will be gutted if we don’t have a replacement lines up because we’ve had months to prepare – “We didn’t have enough time” simply won’t cut it for me.

  • 27 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:09 AM

    Slank…I don’t mind him being sold – that’s football, but January in never the window to sell your best players.

    …should it happen it is not just the money that is important, but the fact that you get your replacement in before you let your player go!

    It is football 101 – something Newcastle just won’t learn :(

  • 28 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:09 AM

    tads

    I’ll be shocked and annoyed if it’s not the same midfield and forward line as last week but with hba/marv in the middle….not just because i want them tried there but for one reason.

    Remember when Ba left and we kept cisse on the right as we had prepared all week with him there, so shola came in up top…..well surely the same must be true now, we trained with sissoko on the right, so surely he must stay there?

  • 29 h-train // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:09 AM

    Lee Ryders claiming de jong medical as well.

  • 30 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    We sell our prized asset and Loan a complete dud….is it any surprise that this deal has been agreed as Cabaye leaves!! Absolute disgrace, did we not have enough funds to complete the De Jong loan before Cabaye went?

  • 31 martoon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    Also I bet some of you jumped for joy when you saw the headline “Pardew resigned………………..” ;)

  • 32 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    jesper

    also the fact he could have a world cup where he plays well and doubles his value with more clubs wanting him….then if he has a bad world cup nobody might want him and he could stay. we win that situation either way.

  • 33 Nomad // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:11 AM

    Just to note, all the people supporting MA’s decision to sell now instead of in the summer, regardless of whether a request was made by Cabs.

    That decision doesn’t necessarily net us a massive load of cash, in all likelihood we’ll drop back to 9th place now, whereas with Cabs, 7th, all the way up to 5th or 4th place looked possible, if not likely.

    And when you work out that each place is worth £4million, and boosts our international prestige if we finished above Man U, we could’ve bought in good young talent to feed MA’s player farm, and made between £8-20mil just from table finishings. Either bad business from MA or he’s starting to see NUFC as a shorter term investment now, and he’s not a bad businessman, so maybe a sale? That would be a great birthday present come April time! :D Although I know I’ve gotten carried away at the end.

  • 34 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    our toon

    with a loan fee we are talking 1mil, 2 tops….what has taken so long to negotiate that deal? Why has it taken 28 days for that.

  • 35 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    Very disappointed that Cabaye is leaving this Jan…he’s been our best player this season and he’s one of the few CL level players that we have. We need a few to challenge the CL places!

    £19M for a CL level midfielder? Hmmm…he’s 28 and the closest comparison I can think of is when Modric went to Real Madrid 18 months ago, he went for £35M and he was 26. So I’m a bit surprised at the fee.

    But we all know that this was Cabaye’s intention the whole time. He has grown as a player playing in the ultra-competitive PL and he’s got a lot more global coverage too. I imagine he’s made it clear (again) that he wants to leave and there comes a point that we just have to get the best fee that we can get…

    We desperately need a replacement for him though. We can’t go on with Anita, Tiote and Sissoko in our midfield roles.

  • 36 LeedsMag // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    Well well,surprise,surprise.The message is surely now clear for all to see.Mid table and TV money with profit on transfers is surely the limit of our ambition,Rebuild this summer with cheap options and same again.
    The only players who will come are those needing a route into the EPL to up their profile.
    Some will blame Cabaye,Pardew will no doubt trot out that he wanted CL football, nothing we could do etc etc(I was never convinced that Carroll wanted to go – he must have been touted around first).How nice it would be to hear statements of intent from our club about keeping key players.
    Perhaps still being in both cups with a good draw would be an incentive for players to stay and new ones to come – oh I forgot, the cups were not a priority.
    For those of you old enough to have seen the epic Western , The Outlaw Jose Wales – one of the most epic lines in Hollywood history was “Dont piss down my back and tell me its raining” !!
    – Must have been an NUFC fan

  • 37 Tsunki // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    How could Ashley NOT sell cabaye? Pardew has a plan though, first he plans to soil himself, then regroup and formulate another plan. :)

    The derby is looking interesting now, especially from a mackem view. I see Pards getting a hat trick.

  • 38 theartfuldodger // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    Well atleast there havent been rubbish rumours linkin us to dozens of players…

  • 39 nufc 11 // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    We got a fair price for Cabaye if we got 20m plus but hate to think we will over pay for a replacement knowing MA wouldnt be surprised if we didnt sign anyone and banked the money, one other thing S.Taylor should not start 2nite his 4th choice and should stay that way he unsettles the whole back 4 when he plays in the middle, Yanga has been in top form since the Everton game and shouldnt have to sit on the bench for the local boy Taylor.

  • 40 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    Sage
    Yeah team should be similar but the mood in the stands will be awful

    Lot of rumours of De Jong having a medical, it’s a signing we need but if they think that will appease the fans then they need a reality check
    Sick of losing one player only to bring in a player in a position we needed before selling!
    Were always one transfer behind with Ashley, so now we get a CF we needed anyway and will be left short of anyone to actually supply the forwards!
    If there was ever a time to make a move for Siem De Jong surely it’s right now?

  • 41 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    TS

    Shola will replace Cabaye tonight, think he’ll push Remy out wide

    BM confirm De Jong is on his way to us for a medical….. He fail a fitness test though

  • 42 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    tsunki

    IF we lose to norwich, we may well win, i think we will, but if we do lose and nobody really comes in but de jong imagine the atmosphere for the derby….if that doesn’t go our way there will be hell on in St James’ Park saturday

  • 43 Slank // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Luck de Jong having a medical today at SJP according to a press release from his club.

  • 44 SholaHeskey // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Hi guys,

    I’ve read the blog for a good while now and was unsure whether to contribute/join as the pros are that usually there is good debate and banter on the blog (thanks Ed) and good research by fellow geordies but also D*vvys posting crap and being rude to others – if I was on the receiving end I’d find it hard not to gob off back. Were all different and rightly have differing views but ultimately want the same thing, the toon winning/lifting cups. Im currently travelling with the wife but will be back in the world of reality soon enough and have the crap weather to go home to. Anyhow, my two pennies worth is that we should give the 20mil to Southampton for Adam Lallana – he’s quality, premiership proven and possibly a future England captain – goals/assists/retains the ball/grafts hard – what’s not to like also 25, 3 years younger than cabaye Ill get my tongue out now, thats what dogs do :)

  • 45 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    And I’m surprised he wants to go this Jan. Especially with the WC coming up. He must have received better guarantees that the likes of Arsenal were prepared to offer in terms of playing every week.

    And it’s a poor league…shame he’s decided to stop testing himself against good teams week in and week out…

  • 46 phatt knacker // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    On a positive note. If we manage to get de jong and anita shows again how good he can be because he NEEDS to show we dont need another player ahead of him in squad and finally hba gets a decent run of games and some form. With no cup distractions *cough cough* top six is still on :-)

  • 47 Blofal // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    The question is is De Jong on loan or an outright buy?

  • 48 Blofal // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Oh and I bet Pardew does something like play him as CDM.

  • 49 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    TS

    That’s what frustrates me mate, it’s clear we didn’t buy in the summer because we couldn’t sell Cabaye!! Now this window we sign no one until Cabaye goes….think my theory of trying to flog the lad is more of a reality hence the shocking offers!!! Modicum went for £35m because his club didn’t want to sell him!! Cabaye £20m if we are lucky and that’s because we wanted to sell him

  • 50 Tsunki // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    De Jong will be a big question mark. Be nice if he hit the ground running and surprised us all, but I shall not be holding my breath.

  • 51 Himanshu Dhingra // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Loan with an option

  • 52 h-train // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    It’s all good, with cabaye supplying the ammunition, de jong will bang the goals in….oh wait.

  • 53 SholaHeskey // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Wikipedia has had Luuk De Jong’s club as Newcastle United for a while now – JFK thinks that if you change it on the tinterwap it happens in reality. when he’s not on the hun and angry birds that is.

  • 54 Blofal // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    h-train I think with Cabaye in his number 10 role Cisse would have been banging the goals in too if he had played.

  • 55 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    SholaHeskey

    Not a bad call…but Lallana has had relatively little time proving himself in the PL. Wouldn’t it be a bit of a risk? There have been several players who were amazing one season and dreadful the next..

  • 56 theartfuldodger // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    Oh come on..I think the de jong stuff has been done for days now.
    Looks like they were waiting for cabaye sale to announce it.

    Do they think we are that stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 57 hemphill // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    I hope someone has balls to say that “this trade is executed as soon as we have reached an agreement to replace the player.” But this is a wishful thinking under current management.

  • 58 Nomad // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    @SholaHeskey

    Not a bad shout their mate, wouldn’t mind Lallana but unfortunately MA wouldn’t part with that kind of money for Messi or Ronaldo (imagining that he couldn’t sell them on for a profit here but you get my point) I think moving Gouffy up front and getting Jay Rodriguez and/or Lallana from Southampton would be fantastic work for us in any window!

  • 59 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    Blofal

    It’s a loan deal!! For those hope for grenier or Lallana etc think these players will cost the same amount cabs was sold for, MA won’t spend that kind of money. God forbid this means Gosling gets games, bring back Abeid

  • 60 h-train // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    Blofal

    let’s not get carried away haha

  • 61 stuart no9 // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    if pardew blames the sale of cabaye tonight for the loss against NORWICH, he can only mean HIS team is not good enough without 1 player to beat a team like Norwich . sad but maybe true.

  • 62 bollance // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    Our toon

    Cabaye is 28 and will only fall in value and debatably ability.

    Clubs on the up like Liverpool, Udinese, Atletico Madrid etc buy younger players.

    PSG have cash to burn and are not interested in this long term view to build a team. They want instant success and that costs big cash.

  • 63 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    SholaHeskey
    Would love Llana, Pardew has stated he tried to get him before, however Southampton have come and said no star player will leave
    Sadly i believe there board, unlike ours

  • 64 gaz 44 // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    On the plus side I will be excited all day tommorow knowing we got some dollar to spend .., only to have them hopes dashed

  • 65 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Bollance @62

    I know this but have no idea why you are telling me though!! It’s also true that cabs is in his prime why lose a player in his prime? Why not sign a replacement this window and sell Cabaye in the summer?

  • 66 bollance // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Let’s hope it is loan.

    He will be added to our out of form strike force. Not to say one of them could come back into form.

    The only goal scorer we have in form right now is Gouf

  • 67 Slank // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    ‘ shame he’s decided to stop testing himself against good teams week in and week out…’

    He said he came to us as a challenge to prove himself in the best league in the world. To that extent he has. At his age his eyes will be focused on the World Cup and the Champions League as I doubt he will make the 2018 World Cup.

  • 68 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    Also agree with the opinion the De Jong deal was done days ago and have held off to soften the blow

  • 69 SholaHeskey // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    TDS,

    That’s true but I’m a desperate Geordie – I’ll take luque back at the moment. I do think Lallana would cut it though personally – I’d have about 5 or 6 players from Southampton actually and I’d say that only about Chelsea and Man City too – less from Everton, Liverpool and Arsenal – Vertonghen from Spurs and everyone else I wouldn’t touch – that RVP and Rooney aint bad but I think they would disrupt the team. Were better with average players playing well than stars ruining the dressing room

  • 70 theartfuldodger // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    If we get class players like Llana, they will be sold asap.
    He wont last for more than 1 season.

  • 71 bollance // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    Our toon

    Agreed. The foreigners we usually sign have a 6 month settling period to get up to speed.

    The task is going to be difficult to find a player of similar calibre in the price range we operate but not impossible. G Carr will come up with the goods

  • 72 catchy in norway // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    lesh

    its not about throwing a hissy fit, that is what kids do,

    for me its like letting your wife cheat on you, and saying its ok, have fun while you do it

    pardew was not strong enough to stand up to the players that he manages ¨
    he is not strong enough to ask for more, he seems to be one of those people that stroll through life , getting chance after chance and not really doing anything with them

    putting my hatred to one side, and thinking if it where me in that position, come February 1st, if I did not get players to the equivalent and then some id walk, knowing full well that id get another shot another club, because of the 5th place finish and MANAGER of the year,

    I walked out of 2 jobs over principle ringtons tea at 17, and mcnicolas because some old irish guy was taking the piss,
    also had a few run ins with my supervisor at RS Components, which went quite high

    give and take, that’s what its all about,

    people seem to walk all over him

  • 73 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    Gaz 44

    What if PSG refuse to do a same day transfer of funds, what if they decide to do the standard bacs which takes up to 5 working days to clear……the window will be closed then!! On a more serious note Percy has his excuse lined up for tonight but hopefully the players will step up

    Anita isn’t the type of player Cabaye is, whose going to take free kicks?

  • 74 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    Our Toon
    That’s exactly what we should of done mate, get his replacement in before he left the club
    Sadly that involves being pro active rather than reactive, under Ashley that won’t happen

  • 75 Shola Pure Legend // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    What message does this send out to us loyal fans Ashley you fat useless fraud. Mr Kinnear said last week NO players leaving in this window, just shows how much this clown knows. Us who buy season tickets are being ripped off big style, sick of me life off work ill a feel even worse now.

  • 76 h-train // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    Chronicle saying gouffrans out of the match tonight with an injury. HBA’s never gonna get a better chance to step up to the plate…

    Feel like I’ve said this before though…

  • 77 Rainrix // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Lallana would command a stupidly high transfer fee. Is everyone forgetting he’s english? :)

    Siem De Jong would be my choice for a replacement seeing as he’s actually a specialist number 10 which is the position cabs has been playing recently. I’d even be tempted into making a cheeky bid for kagawa seeing as he’s pretty much never going to get a game with mata there now.

    But this is all wishful thinking with JFK at the reigns.

  • 78 jazzyp // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Just like to say good luck to Cabs for your future endevours.
    Spitfire- well done mate for voting nufc to LOSE tonight at norwich.shows ya a proper fan. Wish we had 52,000 of you in the ground every home game to egg the players on !!

  • 79 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Slank

    You’re right, he has. And now he can get a 5 year contract for PSG and get paid mega-bucks in a league where he won’t have to play or try to hard against the lesser lights in the league.

    But I still think it’s a shame that a 28 year old moves to PSG…but of course the CL is very attractive and I can understand he wants to play in that again.

  • 80 mattnufc // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    Does anyone know if Luuk De Jong is a good player? Thanks

  • 81 Spoof // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    de Jong is on his way over for his medical, so if we can manage to get Grenier as a replacement for Cabaye then it would not be such a bad window, at the end of the day we all knew that Cabaye would leave, I was hopeful that it would have been in the summer but if we can act quickly and get Grenier in then it would be better than what I and probably most of us had hoped for.

  • 82 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    We’ve been “bracing” ourselves for Cabayes departure for sometime now, so logic would have it that replacements would be bought in immediately and I mean over 24hrs / 48hrs

    Do ppl really think BM would have been happy to put the De Jong loan deal on hold and pay his wages just so we can soften the blow of Cabaye leaving? Come on, more like we had nothing to spend and waited for the dreamboat to sail away before we parted with money

  • 83 SholaHeskey // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Nomad/TADS

    We can dream – Lallana/Rodriguez would do nicely.

    I actually thought Mike Ashley wasn’t that bad. trying to turn the club around, yes make a profit (by selling it) but who doesnt go to work to make money – but if he doesn’t bring in a player this window i agree with the haters and he’s Jabba’s evil brother! If i was rich I’d buy Greggs and put dog poo in his mince pies – only if he doesnt buy anyone though – and i was rich

  • 84 LeedsMag // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    No point in getting carried away with potential expensve replacements – we dont do that.The gamble is that we are safe enough to cruise through the rest of the season in mid table safety
    Lets all share opinion and reflection on Feb 1st – in the meantime , thanks for the timing Mike – perfect for Norwich and the Mackems

  • 85 hadthetshirt // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    I borrowed this from Goal “I’d be foolish if I didn’t have a plan,” Pardew told reporters. “But until such time a deal is agreed, we can’t put a bid of our own in.

    “So, at the moment, we don’t actually know whether that club is willing to sell. We’re getting near the end of the window now and we have to be careful.” seems like we have to sell before we even have a plan B.Lesson not learnt after Carroll it seems.
    Good Luck to Yohan I don’t blame him for wanting away.

  • 86 Toon_Army // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Some Good news at least, De Jong is on his way for a Medical…

    http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/165/9137656/de-jong-set-for-medical

  • 87 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    SholaHeskey

    You’re right. And I don’t think we’ll see us paying big money for a player at his peak for a long time. It’s just not the model that Ashley is following.

    I’m not sure I’d have that many players from Saints though. Shaw, Lovren and Lallana for sure. And maybe I’d be happy with a couple others as squad players but no real reason to pay much for those kinds of players.

  • 88 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    TDS

    I see your point about a weaker league but he will have a club wanting to not just win their doemstic league but also the champions league…he could test himself with us but we aren’t going anywhere higher, not in the time frame of his career anyway.

    He gets more money, champions league, playing with top players, has to push himself to keep his spot and also gets to live in Paris….not too bad really.

  • 89 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Excellent article posted on THE MAG website by David James

  • 90 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    It’s terrible coming on here and seeing all the negativity from users on this forum, sort of causes a chain reaction then all the idiots go spouting their mouths off about Mike Ashley this, no ambition that..

    We sold a player in his prime, 28 years old, wanted away and had two years left on his contract. Yes, had he performed in the world cup then his value will have increased, but there would be a year left on his contract.

    I’ll tell you this – we have three very good midfielders who can do a job working together in Sissoko, Tiote and Anita – albeit not as good as Cabaye, but who is at the minute?

    The signings situation isn’t the best at the minute, but look at the bigger picture – we don’t lose Colo/Remy/Ameobi until the Summer, we have secured a PL spot next season and hopefully we can secure an EL spot to attract more quality players.

    I would say the only thing that could be done at the minute is sign a Cabaye replacement now, however if it isn’t done and we are left with no January signings, we aren’t in too much trouble.

    What I’m saying is wait until the Summer to judge the signings where we will 100% need two strikers, a centre back, centre mid and potentially a right mid.

    Stay positive lads!

  • 91 martoon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    To be fair I think the De Jong deal was always on the cards as Pardew hinted at it yesterday. I maybe nieve but I think it is just a coincidence that it is today as it was surely arranged and the Cabaye deal was only finalised last night.

  • 92 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    TDS

    Do you not think the appeal of playing in the same team as Pastore, Cavani and ibrahimovic is something which well test him more as a player than playing in the PL? Come on he’s trading Shola for Ibrahimovic, Gouffran for Cavani

    It’s a no brainer PSG wins all the time

  • 93 Nomad // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Stuart no9 @61

    It may also be the unrest in the dressing room following all the other transfer rumours r.e. Cisse, Santon etc. We’ve all known for a while that no ones safe, but it may be a blow to the team in a morale way knowing that the man that lead the French contingent is gone, and that truly anyone could be sold at any point in the window

  • 94 SholaHeskey // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    OurToon,

    I’m sure PSG can afford CHAPS, it costs about £25.

    Either that or the PSG directors just buy JFK and Mike happy meals and they won’t notice they haven’t paid. “Ooh spoke-y dokey-s” JFK still has stabilisers on his chopper

  • 95 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    for me llalana is a class act, the way he moves and passes the ball, some of the stuff he see’s I’ve never seen cabaye spot…so i’d love him hear.

    unfortunately we don’t buy proven from the league, too expensive and no sell on value…won’t happen unfortunately

  • 96 Mister Tuff // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    Somebody posted earlier that after the shenanigans in the summer -it looks like Cabs was promised an exit visa if we were clear of relegation in January. Now that scenario- with me anyway has a definite ring of truth about it. Cabs little jaunt to Paris a fortnight or so ago appears to be him preparing for his exit.
    Cabs has shown that he is not averse to talking to the press I hope he reveals the story from his point of view in the weeks ahead.

  • 97 catchy in norway // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    great another striker

    who supplies the bullets for him??

    or will we slate him aswell in a few month

    good luck DJ

  • 98 Markaccus // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    Matt

    He WAS good when he was playing regularly. Seemed to be a decent goal scorer, but he has hardly kicked a ball for Bumfunners Munchingballsack, as the manager did not really want him (apparently). So hopefully with a few games under his belt for us, he will start finding the net again

  • 99 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Cabaye. One of the best midfielders to have ever played for us? No.

    THE best central midfielder tyneside ever had. He was a joy to watch this season. His range of passing and intelligence is up there with the finest on the planet. He was fun while he lasted.

    All the best and good luck to him.

  • 100 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    SholaHesky
    Mate fully agree would be great, sadly other PL clubs seem to realise that the PL is a highly competitive league with each position worth a small fortune and don’t think anyone except us are stupid enough to sell the lynch pin of there squad mid season when they have a great opportunity to push for a Europa league spot

  • 101 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Did Kinnear really say, “I will not let any player leave Newcastle United in this transfer window.” on Sky Sports? I can’t see a reliable source for this…

    I don’t know why anyone would bother coming out to say something like that when we all know every one of our players has a price.

  • 102 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    TS

    I can see it…especially because of the money and CL. I just think it’s a shame…but I reckon that the likes of Arsenal and Man Utd just weren’t willing to pay that much for him. I’d say that reflects how highly other clubs rate him. Which isn’t as highly as we do…

  • 103 Nomad // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    Armchair Fan @90

    Good to see you’re staying positive mate but how are we meant to feel about judging signings when we can’t sign a player permanently since JK took over as DOF. Just remember the statistic that if we don’t sign a player permanently in the next 4 days, we’re the only club not to have done so in a season in premier league history, oh and we just sold our star player.

  • 104 theartfuldodger // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    OurToon

    Glabbach:We will give you de jong for 1m fee.
    Newcastle wait for cabaye sale, and reply to them this morning.
    Joe:Ok we will pay 1m.

    Its just manipulation. The exact terms must have been discussed days ago.

    But did they do the same for cabella or grenier who actually could be replacements for cabaye ???

  • 105 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    Our Toon

    No doubt he’ll have better players in his team but he won’t be playing league matches week in and week out against the same calibre as he is now. Saying that, he’ll get the CL too.

    I can see the incentive. I just think it’s a shame…

  • 106 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Yeah linear did say that…. Just like Percy said AC won’t be sold!!

    De Jong couldn’t hit a barn door in his first season at BM and he was starting, just to put it into perspective…..Cabaye was sold for less than Henderson of Liverpool if you exclude the add ons!! Include the add ons and he cost the same amount!!! Must mean Lallana is £25m +

  • 107 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    TDS

    yeh he did, it was daft as if somebody bid 20mil for willo he’d be gone (using an extreme example) , anything can happen and then even a good sale looks stupid after those comments.

    Armchair fan

    Cabaye currenly has 2.5 years left on his deal, after the world cup he’d still have had 2 years left

  • 108 hadthetshirt // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    I think Marveaux should be given a chance in Cabayes role.I know many of you will say he’s lazy or doesn’t tackle.Ginola never did either but look at the goals he created and scored.Marveaux is a lovely little footballer and without him we could have been relegated last year.Surely if he plays the 10 role we have enough ball winners to accommodate him.Grenier looks a class act but we haven’t even put a bid i for him yet,and we know that takes at least 6 month.

  • 109 SholaHeskey // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    TDS,

    Rodriguez looks good and gets goals. Lambert does a job (better than shola anyway) and Gaston Ramirez looks a bit Ben Arfa-y opens people up and skilfull but neither doing anything near what they should. Southampton are a bit like us actually – average players putting in a good shift but not always together. they were class in the first half against the mackems – ripped them apart and then let them back into the game. Both teams would be sniffing around europa if they were good every week. We are also 8th because everyone below Southampton is terrible – we’d be 11th or 12th if anyone else got their act together this season.

    in hindsight maybe 3 or 4 from Southampton then

  • 110 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    armchair fan
    “What I’m saying is wait until the Summer to judge the signings where we will 100% need two strikers, a centre back, centre mid and potentially a right mid.”
    Every window someone jumps up with this line
    “It’s been a bad window lets wait until the next”

    Sick to the back teeth of that line

    Also 3 good midfielders, Anita Tiote and Sissoko, sissoko has looked poor through the middle and only played well out wide
    Secondly none of these are offensive minded so where does the supply come from now we’ve flogged one of our main source’s of goals cause it isn’t going to come from these 3

  • 111 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    TDS
    It’s a direct quote from Kinnear

  • 112 lewisnufc // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    wouldnt mind us going after Huddlestone but doubt we’d get him ‘over the line’

    be a good shout though.

  • 113 petey // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Wow…a point off Manchester united this season and we sell our best player for a bargain price. At cabayes age and going to the richest club in the world, we could have got 25-30 mill…. and now we apparently sign a half rate striker who couldn’t cut it for a half rate German team who isn’t considered a full international and doesn’t fill cabayes spot. Good job kinnear and co. Graham Carr just resign mate, kinnear won’t listen to you.

  • 114 Spoof // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    armchair fan

    the fans are not idiots and have every right to express there dissatisfaction with how the club is being ran, you criticise the fans because Cabaye wanted to go and he was in his prime so we got a good price implying that we have nothing to moan about, sorry m8 but that makes you the idiot and not those who are moaning because we have such potential that the Cabaye’s of this world would not want to go and we w.ere signing players in their prime rather than selling them as we are doing with Cabaye.

  • 115 lesh // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    Sage. Agree with you @ 16 & 19 but nevertheless, Pardew has my sympathy.

    Ftom what I’ve gleaned about Ashley, he’s very much one for meddling and finding a manager who’d stand up to him and his whims and not be pushed would likely be impossible.

    Look at Laudrup, he was ready to walk because of Jenkins not sanctioning the buys he wanted. That from a man who said on TV last year that a small squad us no excuse for not being able to handle the rigours of the Europa and PL!

    He didn’t want Ince, the chairman did, they didn’t get him at all. Swansea must be feeling the pinch having spent their TV money in the summer so what dud he get as a striker? Ngog! Laudrup’ll be off in the summer no doubt.

    So, Laudrup’s clearly not one to stand up to a chairman, so any suggestions for us, a manager who’d sta d up to Ashley and win? I can’t.

    Under those circumstances, Pardew’s obviously professional enough to do what he’s paid to do – manage the resources he had available to him – that’s what managers are for under the continental, DoF sort of arrangement.

    As I said earlier, it takes a good manager to manage and make a reasonable but unspectacular job of it.

    Ashley’s the problem at that club – not Pardew.

  • 116 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Our Toon

    Ok…you say Kinnear did say that, but can you tell me how you know that rather than hearsay?

  • 117 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    hadtheshirt
    Marv and Ginola should never be used in comparison, there is none

  • 118 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    @toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    i agree with you. we may be signing luuk but i can’t see where our assist is going to come from. whose gonna supply those balls?

    Sissoko has the highest assist if i’m not wrong, but is not someone who splits defence with eye of the needle pass. Anita doesn’t do it often enough but is good at getting into the box as an extra man. Tiote, we all know about him.

    We have zero creativity from the middle of the park

  • 119 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Artful dodger

    Terms were agreed mate but probably agreed when PSG came in Cabaye or when we knew Cabaye was off!! De Jong was top transfer target for this window and it took 28 days to get him here for a medical, on the back of Cabaye being sold!!

    TDS

    I’d rather train with the very best week in week out and improve as a player as well as playing in the CL which is the highest level at club football, the PL is not the highest level in club football, it’s a competitive league!!

  • 120 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    TDS
    Ffs it was a direct quote, there doesn’t need to be a bloody source JFK is the source
    Howay man

  • 121 Goodfella // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    We should have bought a replacement before agreeing to sell, and the fat c**t calls him sell a business man. Be ready to hear a club statement along the lines of we didnt sign anybody because teams inflated their prices because they knew we’ve got 20m burning a hole in fattys pocket. Pathectic.

  • 122 mattnufc // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    @Mark
    Thanks. Glad we are signing someone, at least. Forgot what it feels like
    @Ilovetoon
    I agree. Best central midfielder I have seen for Newcastle.

  • 123 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Ok…quote from Kinnear…but did anyone on here actually hear him say it? Or is there any reliable source quoting him as saying it?

  • 124 petey // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Lewisnufc

    Great call on Huddlestone! Shame he only just signed for hull. We would have to cough up mega bucks!!! At least 10million pounds.. you know you can’t expect mike to cough up that much if kinnear hasn’t ever heard of him

  • 125 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    lesh

    ashley will only hire yes men, it’s not about getting a manager who will it’s about our current manager doing what’s best for him and not looking like a total patsy.

    He should use the situation, we were doing well, pardew has a good media reputation for his ability, and the fans hate ashley….he’d get tons of support if he stood up for himself.

    doesn’t need a carry on, but can just be firm and make his stance known

  • 126 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    TDS

    yes i heard it on sky

    http://www.winnersports.co.uk/kinnear-no-player-will-leave-newcastle-41374

    quote down the bottom of the article

  • 127 Goodfella // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    http://www.winnersports.co.uk/kinnear-no-player-will-leave-newcastle-41374
    not sure where they got this quote

  • 128 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    Telling me that it’s a quote is kinda irrelevant…it doesn’t prove it was really said. Anyway, I managed to find it buried a bit but in a Sky Sports article. That’s good enough for me.

    Joe Kinnear is a useless muppet and should be sacked.

  • 129 theartfuldodger // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    The De Jong transfer does little to soften the blow. Instead it will make people more angry.
    4 damn days to work your magic ashley. De Jong is not an excuse for cabaye’s replacement.

  • 130 SholaHeskey // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    Maybe not Lallana then (but that would be my choice) but I’d be shocked if we got no-one. This wasn’t Liverpool panic buying on the last day (for Andy Carroll). PSG or Arsenal were going to take Cabaye from us sooner or later (noises since at least last summer) and Graham Carr would of been tasked with looking at the likes of Grenier etc for when and not if Cabaye was sold – just a shame PSG didn’t take him at new year and we wouldnt be so worried. 20 million or whatever it is is a good deal for the club but how that money is used (MA loan/players) will make a difference for next season. I wish Pardew played bench players more though or played rush goalie – give us something different to watch

  • 131 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9125888/

  • 132 lewisnufc // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Petey

    He’s like for like for and would definitely fill the gap being left. If we’re willing to pay around the 10 mill for Grenier / Cabella who are unproven then I don’t see why not. If we can’t attract players from Hull then I’m afraid we’ll struggle to attract anyone good enough

  • 133 SuperShearer // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Can’t remember who it was on here but someone did say that de Jong would be at the Norwich game, people assumed that meant he would be playing but looks more likely it will be as a spectator. He’s not exactly the Cabs replacement we’ll need though is he.

  • 134 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    TDS

    I read it somewhere and pretty certain heard it on sky sports!!! Judging by the comments though it seems as though others have heard the same thing or read the same thi ng

    Leash

    Poyet threatened to walk away from the scum in Nov/Dec as he wanted a say on transfers unlike Di canio who didn’t get a say!! In jan the scum sacked the DF in charge of transfers!! How’s that for backbone

  • 135 petey // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Get luuks brother in! Then I’ll forgive Ashley

  • 136 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Ok. Well if we get in De Jong, a Cabaye replacement and Cabella in Summer then I’ll be ok…

  • 137 martoon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    I’m as gutted as the rest of you but come on the De Jong deal is completely separate from Cabaye as hinted at by Pardew yesterday. Let’s give him a chance – there have been many players who flopped at one club and then turned around their career at another.

  • 138 Spoof // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    TDS

    Salah has already signed for Chelsea ?

  • 139 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Wth people are comparing Marveaux and Ginola??

    I wonder how are people justifying HBAs and Marveauxs not tracking back and laziness. And then referring Ginolas and Roberts who doesn’t do any defending but is unleashed going forward.

    Ginola are Marveaux are playing in 2 DIFFERENT ERA of football. Ginolas 90s style and Marvauex 2010s style is completely different game of football.

    The physical requirements of players and tactics have drastically changed over that 15 year period. Old formations that worked have been completely annihilated with a different set of physical traits in footballers and then altering tactical zones on the pitch.

    Ginola of back then would be pants in our Era. Marveaux now would be even worse playing in THAT era of football(vice versa).

    Your Messis track back. Ribery tracks back(guardiola would slaughter him. we all know pep high upfront pressing style.). Marco Reus tracks back(Klopp high line pressing as well.). Koke of Atletico Madrid tracks back.

    Best wingers on the planet nowadays HAVE to track back or risk being tactically outplayed. No excuses for Marvauex and Arfa not to. Sorry.

    People have to understand this dynamics.

  • 140 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Huddlestone? He’s not a like for like replacement as he plays deeper, this is a guy who only recently cut his hair after scoring for the first time in over 2 yrs!! Cabaye had 7 goals in 20 games

  • 141 RUNAWAY777 // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    sorry it will be norwichs biggest win of the season tonigh chris will make sure of that.

  • 142 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    Spoof

    Yep. We were never going to get him with Chelsea and Liverpool interested…

  • 143 petey // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    Yea that’s true martoon but you don’t see spurs or Everton signing flops and crossing fingers and that’s who I expect nufc to be challenging….I hope I get proven wrong though of course.. We all say a lot of things but I admit I’m no scout. Although I sign a mean player on fifa! Already signed capella lol

  • 144 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    Ilovetoon

    Hazard is poor at tracking back, robben was sold by Mourinho because he didn’t track back, Ronaldo doesn’t track, Ronaldinho never tracked back these players are or have been at the top of there game so your argument is flawed

  • 145 Spoof // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    there is another player who I feel could be worth taking a gamble on as Cabaye’s replacement, Jack Rodwell at Man City, he doesn’t get a look in at City but he may still believe that with first team games he could still have an outside chance of going to the World Cup with England, there is no shame in being frozen out at City and he did look a really good player for Everton, he could be worth a punt and I doubt City would out price him as they never use him ?

  • 146 Rotonda heights // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    very difficult to get excited about de Jong. he’s the wrong de Jong brother for a start.

    Big non-scoring target man (hoof ball alert) 5th choice. Doesn’t fill me with too much optimism.

    Cabella, Grenier or Zouma on the other hand. . . . . . . . ..

  • 147 hadthetshirt // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    It was only last year not last decade Marveaux had most assists by any one of our team.He hardly played either.
    Who would you have play their Gosling??? Until we buy we need to create with what we have.I guess because some of you don’t like a player any one who does knows jack shit.
    Without him last year we were down.The manager said he was training well and he had a future here well lets see it.One things for sure he’s a damn sight better than sami or gosling

  • 148 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    spoof

    rodwell had bags of potential but the lad is always injured, made of glass. Not worth it i don’t think.

    But on loan maybe.

  • 149 aidytoon9 // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    Cabs will be a massive loss. It’s ok getting 20 million but are we going to replace him with someone as good as or better?
    The answer is no which shows the owner is happy just surviving in this league as he will get his tv revenue every season.
    When will people wake up and realise that until mike sells we will just be plodding along in this league.
    Why don’t we sell cabs and get a 30 million player and improve the team??

  • 150 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    @Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    You are wrong if you if you think Hazard doesn’t do defensive work. Ronaldinho Era is almost Ginolas. No comparison there. Ronaldo doesn’t track back? And are you doing to say Bale doesn’t track back too?

    You should watch more football.

    Mourinho sold Robben because he doesn’t track back. But Robben himself has come out and said he evolved that aspect of his game and he knows why he needs to track back.

    Heck. Why does Mourinho play Oscar instead of Mata? Why did he prefer him? Because Oscar is capable of developing into a player as good as Mata, but he tracks back and wins back possession! Which is why Mourinho tucks him behind the striker role making him close down the centre backs together with the striker.

  • 151 aidytoon9 // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Big deal we getting de Jong!!!!
    Who will supply the amo?

  • 152 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    had the t shirt

    marv is a funny one, he rarely got a game in the middle like he wanted, always out wide.

    he was the only one last year who was picking cisse’s runs in time, he saved us in some key matches

  • 153 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    The likely hood is that HBA and Marv can already play there, Percy May even play Obertan there lol!! We have players that can play in the hole behind the striker

  • 154 Spoof // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    TS

    I wasn’t aware of his injury record, I thought he was just being frozen out, but players can recover from a continue injury problem, look at Steven Gerrard and Gareth Bale, for a while they were never fit but have had good relatively injury free spells as well, I wouldn’t rule him out as he did look quality.

  • 155 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    Spoof @112

    Agreed that the club should and deserves to be run better, but the people who are slating Ashley for not being ambitious enough isn’t helping the situation we have at the minute. Do you really think he cares what we say?

    My personal opinion is that Ashley does ambition, may not be showing it as of yet but there has been signs in the past which part of me has a dying hope that we do actually want CL, maybe it just isn’t the right time at the minute to actually push for it until we get the TV money.
    He isn’t an idiot.

  • 156 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    spoof

    i’m not sure of the type of injuries, he did miss chunks for a long time of his development…..he is a good player though, but i think there is better out there

  • 157 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    114*

  • 158 toontillidie // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    http://www1.skysports.com/transfer/news/11678/9137624/transfer-news-luuk-de-jong-set-for-newcastle-medical

    Cabaye out though to PSG

  • 159 Whumpie // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    What annoys me is that this is a bad move for everyone. Cabaye is unlikely to improve his WC run-in by switching clubs in the final straight – and PSG fans’ comments suggest that he may well be bench fodder there.
    Ashley could have blown at least £10m by not waiting for the perfect combo of WC app window and clubs with a massive new TV pot to spend.
    As for the bit that should Mayer – the club – well, as always that clearly wasn’t much of a consideration.
    Pardew is clearly very pissed off and I don’t blame him. Screwed again.

  • 160 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    armchair

    you’re right, Ashley is not an idiot.

    Look at it from his financial point of view. Why invest 30mil+ to have only a chance for champs league (which makes you 20mil tv plus opens up more sponsors) when you can run the club as he currently does and take in the extra 20/30 mil BT tv money every year….either way he makes money but the current way is much lower risk.

  • 161 Bambams // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    Boys was it not said by Ash when he bought the club it would become self sufficient however HE would also add £20 million per window/season for players, all profits from transfers would be thrown back into the transfer pot ……

    History shows he will only spend what he wants and none of it his.

    I am aware he has paid off debt but that was his fault for not checking the mileage on a car before buying.

    What really annoys me is he is bloody loaded and surely he would want to be remembered as the chairman who brought a trophy rather than a tight fisted dictator !
    IMO

  • 162 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    I’m sorry but it’s going to take more than a loan signing of a striker who has failed to make any impact in a league that even Papiss Cisse could score in.

    I personally wanted Luuk de Jong in the summer, but he has flopped spectacularly and his confidence is bound to be shot. We already have one useless, confidence shot striker on the bench.

    We also need to replace Cabaye immediately as well as sign another attack minded player in this window if we have any intention of going for the top 6 – we’re 6 points behind 5th for God sake!

    But we all know that breaking for top 6 was never on the cards, after all we have a ‘platform to build on for the future’

    Surely we had a platform to build on when we finished 5th? And perhaps had we actually demonstrated some ambition when we finished 5th, the best player we’ve had in the past 10 years would not be leaving us now!

  • 163 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    Ilovetoon

    I’ve seen 8 Madrid games at the bernabeu this season and I’ve been quite fortunate to watch the genius that is Ronaldo!! He presses high up the pitch along with the team but rarely tracks back, if he does it’s to occupy an area but he falls asleep!! You watch him on the TV

    Hazard also is shocking at tracking back, this has cost Ashley Cole his place in the Chelsea team because azpilicutea doesn’t get passed the halfway line as often as Cole!! Also “dav” as they call him is now a better defender than Cole who is old but it all relates to hazard!!

    Oscar and Willian work really hard with the ball and without the ball which is why Mata was surplus to requirements another lad who didn’t track back!!

    Robben presses high up the pitch but doesn’t track back!! Don’t confuse pressing with tracking back or tracking runners

  • 164 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    Not excited by Luuk de jong at all. I do not know how prolific he is. He was good in the Dutch league and then pants in the German league.

    We need Grenier AND Cabella.

  • 165 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:22 AM

    Holt by anyone ?

  • 166 corkypants85 // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    If i were pardew i would put an arm around Anita/Ben Arfa and say Cabaye has gone you have the second half of the season to prove yourself to us and maybe get selected by your national side for the world cup

  • 167 Sinner // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    There’s nothing to be excited about Luuk de Jong, he rejected us once and is a 5th choice striker at an average club.

  • 168 hadthetshirt // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    T.S. yes I agree but we need to play a creative player now Cabaye has gone.2 passes that stick in my mind are a goal he laid on for Demba Ba with outside of his foot,and one for Papiss a lovely little through ball.Yes he created more for Papiss as he spotted his runs and timed it right.
    I know we play different now but Marveaux has a contract till 2016 so why not play the lad.He passes more than HBA for sure.

  • 169 Rotonda heights // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Martoon @ 31

    Just for a moment I was in heaven!!

  • 170 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Going tonight so hope we can put in a performance without Cabaye !

  • 171 h-train // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Blaydon-Toon

    I second Holtby although I’ve heard rumblings about sigurdsson

  • 172 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    Blaydon

    Holtby is a class technical player, but a bit like Anita, can be a little lightweight at times and goes missing.

    Superb passing ability though.

  • 173 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    H-train I like Sigaudson too goal scorer and good from dead balls !

  • 174 Spoof // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    armchair fan

    you say slagging him off doesn’t help, well I don’t believe that it hinders either so why not allow the fans to get it off their chests.

    As far as ambition goes you are fooling only yourself, how many chances and just how strong of a opsition do we need to be in before he tries to take us up a level, 2 seasons ago we had a new side which was assembled on the cheap and we came 5th, a wonderful opportunity to build which was wasted, we now have a squad which has cost _£5M to assemble (that is from the date that Pardew) joined, again we are in a good position league wise with an abundance of cash from the tv deal unspent, don’t forget we made a profit last year without this new tv deal and we are assured of getting an even bigger pot for next year, yet still he will not make any attempt to push us on, sorry m8 but now is the perfect time, we have a decent side as it is and we will never generate more cash than what we are generating now unless we get top 4, it’s now or never, and you can be assured that it will be never, as a result the better players like Cabaye will always look to move on and we will struggle to create a side which is as good as we currently have.

  • 175 Toon-Barmy // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Probable line-up for tonight:

    ——————————–KRUL———————————-

    DEBUCHY—-WILLIAMSON—-S.TAYLOR—SANTON

    ——–SISSOKO——–TIOTE————ANITA————-

    ——–BEN ARFA——–AMEOBI————REMY——–

    SUBS:
    ELLIOT
    YANGA-MBIWA
    HAIDARA
    GOSLING
    MARVEAUX
    SAM. AMEOBI
    ARMSTRONG (First premier league call-up)

    NOT INCLUDED:
    ALNWICK
    GOOD
    BIGIRIMANA
    DUMMETT

    UNAVAILABLE:
    COLOCCINI
    CISSE
    R.TAYLOR
    GOUFFRAN
    OBERTAN
    CABAYE * (On his bike as we speak)

  • 176 JAMSHA // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    de jong is not the answer….. i want cabaye back

  • 177 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    To think spurs bought Christian Erikson for £13m if only we had bought him in the summer, would have been a perfect replacement for cabaye

  • 178 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    Transfer

    I don’t think a whole 30m needs to be invested into the squad to push for CL, however since Cabaye has gone maybe so..

    Tonight will be a test for Pardew, we will see how he decides to field our team and what style of play he will go for.. many saying hoofball, however recently I’ve seen very nice one touch pass and move football from us, playing the ball out of the box with free flowing passes and I’m hoping that the loss of Cabaye will not stop this.

    Cabaye was our man, let’s see who can step up now.

  • 179 Rotonda heights // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    toontillidie

    No s—e !!

  • 180 Mister Tuff // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    Just on Sky News – Tom Ince given permission to speak to several clubs -including Sunderland (not us though).

  • 181 low fell mag // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    Ciaran ,@ 162,just in case you forgot Cabaye was the first player I have seen in the last 10 years at NUFC to go on strike and refuse to play for us .
    Disappointed to see him go ,but ill get over it.

  • 182 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Lets face it we will be hard pushed to get someone of Cabayes class ! Would prefer someone with Prem experience ….

  • 183 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    https://www.facebook.com/mikeashleyoutcampaign

    You know it’s the right thing to do.

  • 184 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    reports in spurs have just bid for javier hernandez

  • 185 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Low fell MUG

    So you’re going to defend the sale then? £19 million for our best player was a good deal? Tell me it’s all going to be invested then. Or can you bare to admit that all may not be rosy in the garden of Ashley’s arse?

  • 186 Rotonda heights // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    armchair

    that was after 3 years pardew finally played cabaye in his right position!!

    Pardew won’t play marveaux as a number 10 so god knows where any creativity is going to come from.

    Probably back to the ” containing ” football and hope to nick a goal approach.

  • 187 Ben3arfa // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Sinner

    Borussia Monhfdjhjcscsch are thrid in the Bundesliga, I wouldnt call that average.

  • 188 GarethGNUFC // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    Sad to see a class player like Cabaye leave but at the same time we have received good money for a lad who isn’t going to get any better (age isn’t on his side). It seems that he has asked for a transferto a CL club so once that happened there’s really little that can be gained from keeping him. We just have to hope for a replacement now

  • 189 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    Spoof @ 174

    I’ll ask you this

    With the current league as it is, us being 9 points from 4th and the top four being as super powered as they are, would you invest now to push for top four or wait till the Summer window when we can get cheaper signings/more options of players and have another crack at keeping up with them?

  • 190 mag // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Another good bit of business for a player that thought he was to big for NUFC, going on strike for three games then refusing to play against Cardiff City, so he wouldn’t be cuptied disgraceful. NUFC, are best shot of him now let’s see if his fellow countrymen follow his lead.

  • 191 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    low fell

    cabaye did an interview after where he hinted he didn’t strike and only kinnear knows the truth….i don’t trust the higher ups at the club so anything could have happened.

  • 192 low fell mag // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    Ciaran, just stating the facts !

  • 193 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    armchair

    how will people be cheper in the summer? we got great bargains last jan, so we know deals can be done.

  • 194 cestriasteve // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    I like Lewis Holtby a lot but picking up on Ciaran says I don’t think Pardew wants that type of player, he wants someone who will get stuck in AND deliverer a killer ball. I’m actually lost for a suggestion as who this player could be sub 10 million.

    Tom Huddleston….. Leave it out that hair cut thing when he scored his FIRST goal in 2 years… Embarrassing!!!

  • 195 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8963305/newcastles-yohan-cabaye-says-joe-kinnear-is-the-man-to-ask-about-his-failed-summer-move

  • 196 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    Low fell MUG

    Anything that comes from the club is about as factual as the Bible.

  • 197 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    Transfer

    Contracts running down ie Bafe Gomis

  • 198 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    TS

    I’ve been banging that same drum since the summer mate when Cabaye stated to world media that only JFK knows the truth…..I really hope he comes out with it!!! The manager said his head was turned, insiders said he went on strike….. The world knows he was protected to stop him from getting an injury, prized commodity is worthless injured

  • 199 Mister Tuff // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    mad greengrocer from the Heed @192.
    Hahahahaha. That’s a good one. You stating facts. Historical first. Hahahahaha. Best gag so far today.

  • 200 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    armchair

    he is available for 3mil they said and that’s still too much…there is no excuse for the club not to spend now. We never spent in the summer just gone either.

    we will become the first side to not sign a player on a permanent deal if nobody comes in during january over the course of a season.

  • 201 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    If this regime came out and said the world is flat and our next player will come from the moon a minority on here will buy it….gullible!!! Back to work

  • 202 Spoof // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    armchair fan

    last January we signed Debuchy, Gouffran, Mbiwa, Haidara and Sissoko, all of them were bloody awful, however we cannot say that about them now so with a settling in period needed by some, possibly not all, but certainly some players I would sign them now and allow then a full pre-season with us to prepare for next season, p.s this summer window being cheaper is nonsense, you may have a bigger choice but it’s not cheaper, actually the January window offerers some very good deals, stealing players for a pittance whose contracts are coming to an end is a good idea which cannot be done in the summer, please don’t say that they would be free in the summer because it never works out that way, due to signing on fees spiralling out of control.

  • 203 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    our toon

    The fact the manager and non of his team mates slated him for it suggests it was more than going on strike. Look at how Redknapp spoke about bosingwa not wanting to play…he told the world.

    Why would the manager try to protect the player if the player had made him look like a mug. It was obvious there was more to it.

  • 204 bollance // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    Ciaran

    Cabaye would not have signed an extension so inevitably his price was going to drop like a stone. The club knew this and had to cash in especially as the player was not happy at the club.

  • 205 sweendog // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    #200 .. the only problem is how come they haven’t had a replacement in before selling cabaye .. shows you what motivates the owner .. money first, team second .. I hope we get a replacement but looks like it won’t be until the summer .. shame as we had a slim chance of top 4 if not Europe if we bought cabella and grenier, de yong, another striker and zouma .. a team the size of Newcastle could easily do this but Ashley is a gambling man and knows top 10 .. and make money on players is his game ..

  • 206 low fell mag // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    Ciaran , my name is low fell mag ,not mug ,im sure you didn’t mean it .
    Its easy done ,just like Ciaran the Clown.

  • 207 bollance // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    Ciaran

    Thank God you have nothing to do with running the club and never will.

  • 208 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    Bollance

    Why was he unhappy at the club? Because we were going nowhere. He was integral to us finishing 5th, and I bet he thought NUFC could do something meaningful the following season and perhaps crack the CL and fulfil one of his ambitions – but yet the club failed to capitalise, Cabaye was thrust into the midst of a relegation battle and wor Yohan realised that to better his career he had to desert this den of mediocrity and seek pastures new.

    Don’t blame Yohan for having the ambition that Ashley sadly does not.

  • 209 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    bollance

    we still had 2 more full seasons out of cabaye though.

    He would have played 100% this year as he wants a world cup place, even if we rejected his move.

    If he was kept next year two he would hardly not try, nobody would sign him if he wasn’t playing well so he’d have to keep trying….then by the time his contract would be up he’d be 30 years old and big teams probably would n’t have bothered so we could have kept him.

    the financial argument is pointless for me as we don’t spend all the money we need anyway.

  • 210 low fell mag // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    Transfer Sage , was he not stripped of the captaincy ,as punishment.

  • 211 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    Bollance

    And why is that? Because I am displaying my annoyance at the sale of our best player?

    Compare how we handled Cabaye’s future to the way Everton has handled Baines’

    One player left because the club refused to display the ambition to reach further and higher than they have done previously. The other has recently signed a new deal because he believes in the direction of the club.

    Wake up for God sake, you absolute buffoon.

  • 212 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    Low fell MUG

    Nope, it was intentional.

  • 213 sweendog // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    as for cabaye .. he wanted out so fair play to him but the Toon move on and we can be better without with investment .. but is he as good a midfielder as Beardsley, ginola, Hamann, Emre, Speed .. I would say he’s on par with Emre .. he’s not the best ever midfielder for us in recent years .. good player though.

  • 214 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    TS

    To me and this is just speculation, Cabaye saying ask JFK what happened, and us leaking the news to the press on the day of the game when a bid was made 3 days prior just says that we tried to flog him and then protected him!! Yes the player wanted to leave but what’s happened now ultimately says we tried in the summer and there weren’t any takers so this window we accept a derisory bid!!

    We could have agreed a deal to sell him but he wouldn’t leave until the end of the window!!

  • 215 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    low fell

    yeh, well he lost the vice captaincy…but same point.

    I just think it’s odd, cabaye and the club want to look like the victim so hard to know what’s true, but looking at the lies we hear from the club at times it’s hard to trust them.

  • 216 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    The toon have an abundance of surprises – 2011 when we finished 5th, selling Carroll which downhearted some, then we get the best squad since SBR, Enrique leaving because of us having ‘no ambition’, look at him now.. I wish Cabaye the best at PSG as he is a real warrior on the pitch, however I only see him falling down the pecking order in the same way Enrique did.

    My hope now is that Mike Ashley pulls out an ace from his sleeve and we finish 4th.

    Daydreaming is allowed isn’t it?

  • 217 low fell mag // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Bollance@ 207, well said , the bloke is a Fool

  • 218 bollance // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    Ciaran

    Once again you suggest that ‘cracking the CL’ is an easy task..

    Transfer

    Bringing another player with potential will mean that in another 2 seasons we will have some cash in the bank and hopefully another £20m midfielder on the books.

  • 219 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    Sweendog

    Emre was good, but nothing on Cabaye

  • 220 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    Low fell mag

    Cabaye was stripped of captaincy because he wanted to leave but I think he only made his mind up once we touted him out…. Much like colo being stripped of captaincy the season before because he wanted to go back to Argentina!!

  • 221 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    The greengrocer think’s I’m a fool.

    Sirrah, you would best take my coxcomb.

  • 222 sweendog // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    armchair fan .. granted with injuries for us he wasn’t up to his best .. but in my opinion emre was a star midfielder .. amazing for turkey and good for us when fit

  • 223 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    Armchair fan

    Enrique is out injured until Feb, he’s been injured since October

  • 224 bollance // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    Ciaran

    So it is automatic for a player to sign a new deal when offered.

    You have no proof that Cabaye also was not offered a new deal which he would have refused to sign. You can not use that as an example.

    What you can do though is see that Everton has sold a player and loaned one in who will leave at the end of the season. Good ambition..

  • 225 Belfast // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    Good news on De Jong, but I wonder if this would have happened if Cabaye wasn’t going to Psg…

  • 226 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    Bollance

    I never once suggested that cracking the CL was an easy task. Putting words in my mouth by sheer invention. However, cracking the top 4 is a much more difficult task if you do not invest in an already small squad, especially when they have the added difficulty of another cup competition – Cabaye would have seen that in order to at least give it a go, we needed more signings, signings that did not come.

  • 227 Markaccus // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    So, people, we have a striker coming in (even if everyone isnt convinced he will be any good) and we have lost cabs (whether people think its a good deal or not).

    My questions are as follows….. IF we do sign cabs replacement now,Who would people realistically like to see come in? Or, would you shift an existing player into that role? If so, who, and who would you sign to fill the gap they would leave?

  • 228 Thump // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    @armchair fan: Enrique “fell down the pecking order”? He’s been a mainstay at the Scouse backline. The only reason you haven’t seen him too often this year is because he’s been injured.

  • 229 low fell mag // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    C LOWN @ 212 , BIG talk from a little mouse behind his lap top

  • 230 mag // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    20 million for a 28 year old who begged to leave is good business he’s gone to warm PSGs bench because when they sign pogba in the summer he won’t be guaranteed a start in the team.

  • 231 Markaccus // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    My option would be to move sissoko there or maybe hba, and sign at least one proper attacking wide player.

  • 232 sweendog // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    cabaye may get as good as emre at PSG .. but so far he is a good above average prem midfielder .. that’s not to say I didn’t think he was the gel in our team .. he makes our team tick but that why we need him replaced but I definitely think he can be improved on an Grenier does have that ability .. hope we get someone like him in this window but I can’t see it with JFK and Ashley holding the cards

  • 233 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Our Toon

    Was he getting games under BR before he was injured? Haven’t looked into it, just haven’t heard his name being spouted around for a long time – not since he looked like one of the dwarf miners with that shaved head and beard ;)

  • 234 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    bollance

    You sometimes need to keep your best players though. At least until you bring in somebody who can step up. It’s like w have gone back to square one.

    I just don’t see why we needed to sell. The money is pointless, don’t care if it was £1 or £100mil…either way it won’t all be put back into the first team. It will be explained to us that running a club is expensive, we need to pay for this and that and we have spend the money.

  • 235 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Bollance

    They have also signed Aiden McGeady in this transfer window – while I am not a fan he is certainly a decent option. They also have much more limited spending power than we do but have managed to retain their best player, without trying to tout him to other clubs.

    Also, if the club had offered Cabaye a new deal, they would not have been shy in letting the press know that. Would they miss an opportunity to make Cabaye look like the bad guy and the club look like the victim?

    Come on now, don’t be silly.

  • 236 Slank // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    Changing the subject, has anyone had a good look at Armstrong and how do they rate him?

  • 237 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    Thump

    My apologies for being ignorant.

    Never followed the scousers and never will

  • 238 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    I think Jabba must have had a little sing song in his underpants in the bathroom mirror to himself before he went to bed
    ” I sold Cabaye,Yohan Cabaye,i’m up 20 million and it’s grand,that money from Cabaye,is going in my sky,i’m gonna buy Peter Lovenkrands”

  • 239 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    Mug

    Are you going to talk about football or swan around puffing your chest out pretending to be offended?

  • 240 Nufcjoss // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Luuk in on loan.. So if he plays well for us, he and Remy could look for a new club together in the summer! Cabay out and a out-of-form striker in on loan, well Joe, hats of. NOT!!

  • 241 BandB // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    I’m going to have a another of my little stabs at where we are heading here.
    I think we will push towards what is effectively a 16-man first team squad, with 11 first picks and five subs.
    Development squad players will be expected to fill the gaps left by injuries and suspensions (suspensions will be heavily fined).
    I believe Ash still thinks we are over-staffed for the job in hand, and that this is Joe’s real job.
    The days of first-teamers who don’t make the match-day squad are over.
    Look at the present squad, and those “surplus to requirements” stand out like a sore thumb.
    We spent a wee fortune in Ashley’s terms to right the problems caused last season by the “catastrophe” of qualifying for Europe. That mistake will never be repeated.
    That outlay, and the subsequent hike in the wage bill, is now being recouped.
    If you can bring yourselves to imagine that Ash thinks we have too many players, and that the Cabaye money was spent, in his view, last January, then you might save yourselves a lot of needless grief.

    Carryingcoals. Nice to see you back.
    Puretoon. I knew you’d get no feedback to your post. Far too close to the truth for comfort.

  • 242 Belfast // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    I actually don’t blame them for this one, for a change.

    It was pretty clear he wanted to leave, so not really much they could do. Got a decent fee, didn’t join a rival club.

    The bigger issue for me is not reinvesting the money.
    We’ve got a few days to go, but I won’t be holding my breath.

  • 243 Thump // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    @Markaccus: We’ll go for Grenier, but I reckon we should put a cheeky bid in for Pjanic. He’s as close to Cabs as you’re going to get imo.

  • 244 Coach // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Realistically, the best we can hope for is a small number of new faces, maybe as small as zero but it looks like a risky loan of De Jong is likely.

    Assuming those new faces are foreign, or at best English but with no premiership experience, they will take 6 months+ to settle. Experience tells us this so do we believe that some combination of Anita, HBA and Marv can create enough chances to win games?

    The rest of the season looks interesting to say the least.

  • 245 sweendog // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    Belfast I think de jong was always coming just they delayed it until after cabaye as Ashley got JFK to focus on getting the money .. now he’s probably been given a small budget to replace him ..

  • 246 terencelim // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    Loan loan loan loan loan…

  • 247 bollance // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    Ciaran

    Where does the cash come from to buy these players.

    Also there is proof that buying does not guarantee success, look at Tottenham, WH and infact all of the other teams who spent more than us in the summer.

    The club has it’s own model geared towards moving up the table but it is a slow building job. MA wants to be in CL like the fans but our reasoning differs. We want success and he wants ££ and achievement.

  • 248 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    Question: which game(s) did Cabaye miss in the beginning of the season?

  • 249 sweendog // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    thump .. pjanic was PSG’s first choice so don’t think the finances would stretch .. interesting fact is he came from Lyon .. just like Grenier .. so even though grenier is a gamble Lyon have history of producing good midfielders .. although cabella as well would be good .. I always like a player from a struggling team who still looks good .. says a lot about his character .. in an ideal world both would be nice :-)

  • 250 cbtoon82 // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    Anyone else think the lads will go out and hammer Norwich tonight, just to prove a point?

  • 251 Our Toon // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    Armchair

    He did play initially this season then Liverpool went to 3 at the back and he didn’t play mate!!

  • 252 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    cbtoon82

    I down right hope so, losing Cabaye is a big one but I hope the lads show that one man does not make a team [even though Cabaye did make our team ;)

  • 253 Thump // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    @sweendog: If only we could get a French player who was loyal haha.

  • 254 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    Bollance

    Find any quotation that states that Mike Ashley wants to be in the Champions League. You will not find one.

    I forgot, had we signed anyone last summer we’d have went into our overdraft facility…hmmm perhaps any losses could have been offset by the record breaking television deal that we will be receiving?

    None so blind as those who cannot see. If you’re not convinced at this stage then I am afraid we have nothing left to discuss. I have no time for those who still despite being faced with strong empirical evidence that disputes their faith.

    Because that is all you people have left – blind faith.

  • 255 armchair fan // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    Cabaye couldn’t wait to get back to France, he was sick of the geordie girls and wanted to go back to the land of hair armpitted girls.. Strange culture those frenchies

  • 256 Slank // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    250cbtoon82

    I would like to think so.

    I’m assuming it will still be the 4-2-3-1 formation but who will be in the middle of the 3?

    I hope it’s Ben Arfa.

  • 257 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    bollance

    look at clubs that have spent like man city and chelsea, worked well for them.

    It’s all about using your money well, not having to spend a fortune, just spend some and make sure you spend it right.

  • 258 saxonfenken // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM

    bollance,
    don’t waste your time with the know it all,
    just ignore his supidity

  • 259 Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:11 PM

    *still believe

  • 260 catchy in norway // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    let’s just wait and see tonight

    can Percy motivate the squad, or will he sulk get beat and blame PSG ???

    then the unwashed at the weekend, they couldn’t be facing us at a better time

  • 261 aidytoon9 // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:13 PM

    Are we always going to accept second best?
    What matters is what we have on the pitch. De Jong not as good as cisse IMO.
    So frustrating watching your best player leave and know that he won’t be replaced with as good as or better.

  • 262 sweendog // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:13 PM

    thump agreed :-) ..

  • 263 Markaccus // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    Thump

    pjanic is the guy psg wanted as well wasn’t he? How much would he set us back?

  • 264 TurkishFan101 // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    Good Afternoon lads. I do not care what anyone else says but we are not a selling club. Mike Ashley did the right thing to sell him at £19-21m. With his age and his on top form so that is the most we could of gotten from him. We have only sold Carroll, Enrique where Carroll situation no one would dare to refuse that offer and Enrique wanted ambition and moved on.

    Now, if we get Clement Grenier in, and Cabella agreed to a summer contract or here before that, that would be perfect! but if you remember, we were supposed to get Sissoko in summer as reports suggested, but he came earlier. So, if we manage to get another 2 transfers in excluding Luuk De Jong, I consider this window a success.

    Look forward, move forward forget the past and think about the future!

  • 265 theartfuldodger // Jan 28, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Signing strikers is always going to be risky.
    These people dont want risks.
    Theyl never sign a striker.

    All free-bees, loans.

  • 266 Tsunki // Jan 28, 2014 at 1:20 PM

    Ciaran // Jan 28, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    Low fell MUG

    Anything that comes from the club is about as factual as the Bible.

    So what does that mean? True or not? I’d like to see you prove that either way :)

  • 267 SholaHeskey // Jan 28, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    Markaccus Id get Lallana personally. But if not now, play the squad in there HBA/Anita/Marveaux or 442 with Cisse on – he’s either got to play or be sold and neither will help the cause watching from Obertan’s arse groove. perhaps look at getting DeJong/Cabella or Grenier in but maybe a punt on Ings or Rhodes – you can get them for 5m say and if it doesnt work fat sam or the churchill dog at QPR will give you 3m to take them off your hands

    CBToon – if i was at home near a bookies I would have £20 on 5-0 toon – got a feeling they will show the boss who’s wanting a payrise and the no.10 spot. If cisse plays i fancy him to get at least one too (maybe not a penalty though).




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