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Luuk de Jong – It Was A Terrible Debut For Me

7:46 pm, Saturday, February 1st, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 302 Comments

Luuk de Jong started the second half in today’s third disaster in a row against Sunderland, and given he has not had much playing time in Germany he looked decent, and certainly showed some good movement at times.

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Luuk de Jong – terrible debut

And Luuk knew all about what this game meant to fans, and in his first interview after signing last week, he had said if Newcastle lost the game the players would not be able to walk the streets – so at least he knew how important the game was.

This is what Luuk said on the Newcastle web-site after the game today:

“I’m happy to be here and to play but it is not the beginning I hoped for. I wanted to win this game. “I was told how big it is for the Club and the fans and now I’ve seen it for myself.”

“I had a couple of chances and I expect myself to finish better there. I’m not satisfied with that.” “Sometimes I thought I did OK, made some good runs and got the ball but just couldn’t get a good shot away when I came back inside.”

“I will keep working on that and my goals will come.” “We are really disappointed.” “We spoke before about what the game meant, how we had to start and what we had to do but we didn’t play football today.”

“Our strength is playing football. I watched the Norwich game in midweek and you could see how good we were, but today we just didn’t get going. Sunderland played well at times though and got the goals.”

“It’s a terrible debut for me – a really bad moment and I’m so disappointed.” “We have a big week ahead, We need to work hard as a team and be prepared for Chelsea.”

It’s good that we have got 37 points, so we are not in any relegation trouble.

That’s true isn’t it?

And we’d like to see Luuk get some playing time, so he can get his sharpness back, and at times he looked good this afternoon, in what was a terrible game to make his debut in.

Newcastle players have to take responsibility for another insipid performance against Sunderland , and there was no passion or guts, and not much skill either.

The Newcastle fans need see guts and spirit at Chelsea next Saturday afternoon – nothing less than that will be good enough –  although with the skills we currently have in the side, we are unlikely to come away with anything from Stamford Bridge.

Newcastle can still make this into a good season – we just need to forget about all the Sunderland defeats – that’s all.

We’d just love to see Luuk become a success at Newcastle, and we also thought that Sylvain Marveaux looked good when he came on in the second half – and Sylvain needs to be given a chance too.

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302 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Toon Tang // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    He had a few moments but you could tell he weren’t match sharp

  • 2 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    safe not yet

  • 3 BuckLuck // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    I feel sorry for the guy. Coming here to play under Ashley and Pardew.

    Take note future players;
    Do not come here as long as Ashley owns the club, or Pardew is the man that’s suppose to evolve you as a player.
    Far better options than us at the moment.

  • 4 Belfast // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    Bit rusty, hopefully starts next game.

    I’d rather play a rusty De Jong than Shola truth be told

  • 5 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    crewe tranmere wigan

  • 6 theartfuldodger // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    If players are told thay we are targetting CL when buying them , then we r gonna have hell to pay.

    Good players goto fulham and stoke and norwich and sunderland too, but they know what theyr getting. They dont loose morale after a transfer wkndow. They dont feel cheated.

  • 7 welshgeordie9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:53 PM

    Give him time I think he will do well, he might have scored today if he was playing regular.

  • 8 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:56 PM

    Done okay, could tell he hadn’t played for a while or really taken a training session with the team yet

  • 9 Jakenufc // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:57 PM

    Just the finishing for De Jong today. Loved seing marveux come on though…hope he starts next game

  • 10 catchy in norway // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:57 PM


    you still have not told me how you would fix our team


    there is no way on this earth i would 1 put up with what there doing to him
    2treat the fans the way they do him included

    latest lie, cabaye

    cabayes own words were thanks for sticking to your word,

    pardew new, so he lied

  • 11 mattyNUFC // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:57 PM

    how can anyone say he will do well? He looked awful today. You can’t blame match fitness because he started all 3 or 4 of Monchengladbach’s friendlies during the winter break in January. He looks poor, hasn’t scored a league goal in nearly a year, is slow, looks quite cumbersome, and throw lack of confidence in there too…..awful decision to bring him here

  • 12 welshgeordie9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    Which players would you like to sell in the summer

  • 13 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    looked like a cisco to me

  • 14 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    Absolute bollox you wouldn’t

  • 15 Ben3arfa // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    De Jong made some good runs today, you can tell he has a smart footballer. Hopefully he picks up with a few games under his belt.

  • 16 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    or was it costco

  • 17 welshgeordie9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    Played awful he only played 45 bloody minutes for Christ sake

  • 18 catchy in norway // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM


    i put it to you have no clue that there is any problem,

    3 dearbies with the stronger team 2 at home lost

    without a fight

    tell me how you would play the team

    ould shola get in any of your teams

    how would you play him

    come on your the top boy

  • 19 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM

    A lot of bloggers are saying why didn’t De Yong start & leave Strolla on the bench. Fact is he has only played just over an hour all season – perhaps that’s why. Strolla has a good record against the Mackems up to last three encounters.
    Need to get LDY proper match fit & get Cisse’s confidence back. Remy has got the goals but he doesn’t want to play for us (for the second time) so let’s concentrate on those who want to play for this football club

  • 20 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM

    Well a few hours since the game thought is give meself a chance to calm down but that just hasn’t happened
    Today was simply appualing

    JFK and the Fat man to f**king gutless to face there paying public after a truly disgusting window in which they shafted the club and the fans
    Pardews tactics had us starting far to negative, but except Marv and De Jong on the bench we really do have f**k all attacking options, btw TDS today is exactly what i was trying to get across to you with the arguement that our squad really has no strength in depth

    As for the players
    F**king hell hang your heads in shame, absolutely disgusting display, I don’t care how we were set up there’s no tactical excuse for not being able to beat the first man on set pieces, running in to each other, playing for themselves, not being able to make 5-6 yards passes and generally being able to play the most basic of football, that’s one part if Pardews interview i did agree with, they need to get back to basics

    Apart from Willo Tiote Marv Sammy (who was quiet but done better than most when he did get on the ball) maybe Taylor the rest were abysmal every single one of them

    Krul, he flapped, he came out on corners and missed, his distribution was awful and his saves were parried weakly back into our own box

    Anita was awful, tackling, positioning, passing all of it woeful

    Santon, did he even train this week? Worst display ever seen from that lad

    Debuchy looked unbelievably frustrated was offered no cover and when he did get to go forward he had absolutely no support or options, no one showing for the ball and then just lost his head and started putting in rash challenges

    Sissoko terrible ran himself into trouble all day, dithered on the ball, poor passing awful shooting and probably blocked more of our shots than O’Shea and Brown combined

    HBA, if this is the man to fill Cabayes shoes were f**ked, indecisive, poor passing, couldn’t beat a man and when he shifted left Bardsley had him in his pocket for the rest of the game

    Shola, did he even move today? Awful stuff, poor weak shots and missed a sitter of a header

    Every single person involved in our transfer dealings and today’s game should be f**king disgusted with themselves

  • 21 mattyNUFC // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM

    and what the hell kind of formation were we playing today? Both halves.

    None of us like ashley. we can agree on that (well, save for TDS). but please get rid of this idiot.

  • 22 Go toon gooooo // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:02 PM

    From the short time I saw him I think that he is only good passer and jumper that is very important with cooperating with Loic Remy.Hid dribbling skills and speed I think that are doubtful.For the next game Santon and Anita out and Marveaux and Dummet in.And most importantly because we are without our best player Remy in the next two games we must play defensive to fight for 2 points.Otherwise we are in danger for taking 0 points.

  • 23 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    The only glimmer of hope for me is the fact we aint signing players and trying to get loan deals in.
    Its just he thing the fat man would do before he sells,he wouldnt want to sell and leave expensive assets behind would he.
    Not when he can trouser the money first.

  • 24 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    I must admit. He looks very slow. He’s more of an Andy Carroll type player.

    Marveaux set up Shola but he couldn’t get hold of the ball.

  • 25 JackButler // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    Welcome to the nuthouse Mr. de Jong, not the game or circumstances where you should be making your debut

  • 26 Toon Tang // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    welsh, i wouldnt sell anyone mate, not without a load of incomings first. We all know if we shift even a couple of the dead-weighters and get no one in, we’re even lighter on our feet.

  • 27 catchy in norway // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    i would

    and i have

    if i feel im getting shit on, i ask questions why

    i left ringtons tea at 17, and at 34 i left the country because i was being shit on at wellstream

  • 28 nufc82 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    Sunderland outclassed us today. There’s no doubt we missed Cabaye, Remy and Gouffran today. Not only in terms of quality but in work rate as well. One of the reasons why we have been quite successful this season is because of the team’s work ethic. However one of the main problems with our squad is that the players that come in rarely put in the same amount of effort. The likes of Ameobi and Ben Arfa are quite lazy. For all the people on here who are always shouting for Ben Arfa to start games, we saw to day why he hasn’t been a regular starter this season. He’s far too inconsistent and when he’s not on form it’s like playing with 10 men

  • 29 mattyNUFC // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:05 PM


    tiote and taylor were disgusting as well. Both awful performances. because tiote had a shot on target doesnt negate the rest of his woeful performance.

    Marveaux needs game time and he will come good because he’s probably our top creative player right now, lazy or not. He has to come good actually. otherwise we’re f*cked.

  • 30 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    1st of all he looked good and with a bit more match time could be a good signing
    good runs and got on the ball just poor shots

    and stuartno9 pardew has had to replace a whole squad in his time here so how is that a bad thing when he’s finished 5th and is currently 8th with obvious troubles!?

    maybe look at past managers with there records and where they finished before you hammer him and then take into account the money they had then and how big a club we were back then!

  • 31 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM

    Sorry Ed, TADS didn’t think Marv looked good at all.

    As for De Jong, he looks like his confidence is lower than Cisse’s. The TV got a close up of him coming on and he looked like a scared rabbit. He had chances to shoot and dwelled. The last thing we need is to nurse a player through a crisis of confidence for half a season.

  • 32 Lu-toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM

    Sky Sports are reporting Pardew has just got the sack!

    Oh hang on, it was Ashleys straight in his gob

  • 33 Toon Tang // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM

    tads @ 20 did it take you 1 min to write all that? or were ya saving it up for a rainy day.

  • 34 catchy in norway // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:09 PM


    your bottling it

    you carnt answer my simple question

    you asked me my team

    i put 2 out for you

    tell me how you would play, or is your head so far up pardews ass you would do nothing different

  • 35 daztoon // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:09 PM

    Well done Pardumb another record broken to add to your collection.

  • 36 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:09 PM

    Putting Mike Ashley aside, and JFK.

    Lets get to analysis of Pardew:

    He said in an interview on the 30th/31 cannot remember which that that had to alter the style of play due to Cabaye going. Now, why the F**k do you need to alter the style of play and go to hoof balling you twat? stick Marveaux in number 10 and Ben Arfa on the Right Winger and they could exchange roles in game constantly which would be a great partnership. Why could we not play the football we played at Norwich, even Luuk De Jong admitted above in his post-match interview.

    To Pardew lovers, it is the managers duty to set-up the team tactics, cohesion, training, positioning. It seems to me all the Pardew lovers that love it up the bum from him are saying that the players are responsible for the tactics, positioning, hoof ball. cohesion. I don’t know if you lot are trying to be sarcastic or just bitter mackems in disguise, its just disgusting how some people are still pro-ashley and especially pro-Pardew.

    Looking at the startup, who picked it Pardew or the players?? come on some Pardew lover tell me? oh right DING DING DING DING, it was the Manager Alan Pardew, do you know why because HE IS THE MANAGER.

    Why was Steven Taylor playing ahead of Mbiwa in the starting line up the past 2 games, who picked him??? DING DING DING DING, correct it was the MANAGER Pardew. Why did Shola Ameobi get full 90min show when he stop trying after the first 10min?? DING DING DING DING, correct It was Pardews decision, why you ask? because he IS THE MANAGER. Why did Marveaux our most creative player come on the last 12min to play Left Wing???? DING DING DING DING, correct because it was Pardew’s decision as HE IS THE MANAGER.

    So now Pardew lovers or mackems in disguise, either f**k off this blog and admit you are a mackem in disguise or admit you been foolish and join the rest of the fans to get these Circus clowns out of our beloved club.

  • 37 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    Simple fact is if a decent offer is made for any of our team the fat man will sell and try and get a cheap replacement from france.
    Usually people who have fallen out with there team/out of contract/up for murder-rape-etc or have just came back from a near career ending injury.
    The team dont matter were just cheap advertising and a way for him to make cash,all he wants is to stay in the league.

  • 38 Schwefelberg // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    Ashley will always take the club to some new low – it’ll happen again and again like an Atomic Clock.

    The question is why does he need these problems?

    It’s false economy for him to hold out for break even. He could use the money to buy fracking wells or Bitcoin and he’d make far more…

    Why is he here? It’s never made sense.

  • 39 Toon Tang // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    whos ya ghostwriter hahaha

  • 40 stuart no9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    can i just ask the people on here who feel that pardew is not at fault for this shambles of a team that has taken 3 yes 3 YEARS to assemble – what is his line of duty? – what is he responsible for? ( if anything) what does he do for his 1/2 M a year wages , and what has he done to deserve his F”CKING obscene 8 year contract? — and take your time.

  • 41 catchy in norway // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:11 PM


    marv looked a very good player when he came on

    one of our better ones on the day

    given pardew shit on him, i would have forgive him if he had of been poor

  • 42 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    200Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    TADS –
    A) I haven’t watched them in training. I’ve watched them in matches where it counts. Never mind taking set pieces, Santon can’t even shoot or cross in open play! He chokes both. Are you blind?
    B) Even if Marv was never yours or Pardew’s first choice, he should never have been ostracised when he’s now being called upon to perform in our biggest game of the season. Pardew once ostracised Willo the same way and was forced to bring him back.
    C) Pardew will tell you that he has the final say on signings. Where have you got your information that the club would buy someone that he doesn’t want?

    A) So you only watch them on the pitch, which doesn’t really answer how the hell you know what the rest of the squad is like at set pieces, as stated earlier last time Anita was on dead ball duty he was awful so was HBA so you still haven’t said who you would have

    B) Why shouldn’t he have? You have no idea what happens at the club except the 90 minutes each week on the pitch, you have no idea of his attitude no idea how he trains no idea over his fitness so what qualifies you to make the call?

    C) Pardew has never stated he has the final say, it’s been stated time and time again it’s agreed between JFK Carr Pardew Charney and Cashley

    As I said he has enough faults why you feel you need to invent then is just strange

  • 43 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    Welsh Geordie
    I think you’d be better asking which you would want to keep :
    Krul, Debuchy, Santon, Anita, Tiote, Marvaux, De Jong, Campbell, Ferguson, Bigirima, Haidara, Mbwia, Sissoko & Gouffy
    Definitely listen to offers if we can get any for Saylor,Willo, Obertan , Gosling & probably HBA if we could get our money back on him. We will then need players like, Ings, Vogts & Trippier (all Burnley) & perhaps Ross McCormack (Leeds) & Carr will then have to work his magic again

  • 44 Uncertain Toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    He did seem to get in some decent positions, reckon he’ll be reet with some games under him. He’ll have Terry coz he’s old and gash!
    He talks about how they spoke about starting the game and that’s the point right there I think. They didn’t let us start the way we wanted to and we became undone pretty sharpish as a result of their tactics.
    I miss us going for the jugular from the off. If we’d have gone for it and got sucker punched we’d still be peed off, but it would be a different bloggage. And that is down to Pardew i’m afraid.

  • 45 yorkymag // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    I hear that joe was a bit confused today he could not underestand why luck was playing up front he was sure he had signed a tough tackling central midfielder. !!!!

  • 46 daztoon // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    @stuart no9

    He a record breaker yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • 47 Finnbad The Sailor // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    I’m with tads on this.

    Catchy you’re talking absolute shit about walkng out of a job. You’re so blinded by your hatred of pardew you’re actually starting to invent faults.

    Todays result was absolutelt horrendous. No passion, no fight, no tactics, the 2 chuckle brothers starting (however Sammy was half decent on Tues). The season was effectively over after Cardiff playing for pride and nothing else. Players clearly don’t get that.

    De Jong when he came on got in some decent positions so the service was there for him at least. I found a lot during the game that players (and not just for toon also in Man U game) when trailing would opt for over running and trying to do it all themselves hunting for the derby glory, instead of passing to people in better positions.

    I honestly didn’t expect a 3-0 reverse today but was over it pretty much as soon as I was out of the ground. Sign of the times maybe?

  • 48 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    Toon22 – Mikey’s not trousering the money. The good thing is that NUFC have the money. It hasn’t left the club. Cabaye was bought by Mikey for £4M and sold for £19M. Thanks to Mikey, NUFC is better off by £15M as a result of his purchase and sale. And of course, we had some decent service from the player along the way.

  • 49 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM

    AP is still the boss as he is willing to paper over the cracks.
    You name me a decent manager who would put up with MA/JFK and the transfer policy over the last 2 seasons.
    Simple fact is if AP goes we will end up with some one the same/worse or a man who has a good season before hes sold/leaves.

  • 50 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Ah I see it’s not just Pardew you need to make up sh* t about!!!!

    By all means show me where i said Marv looked poor today?

    Maybe your old pal mikey can pay for some reading lessons?

  • 51 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    turkish r u the dude on utube

  • 52 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    SO your saying the constant inactivity and the selling of our best players and not replacing them (still havent replaced AC)is the best thing for the club?
    Kebabs was the heart of our midfeild who is currently playing in his posstion?
    Is shola suposed to be ACs replacement?

    They havent even spent the tv money from last year yet so exactly where do you think all the cash went exactly?

  • 53 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    The reason why Ashley has not sold out is that nobody wants to buy the club. No more than any decent player wants to come to the club. He hasn’t sacked Pardew because he knows the job is a poison chalice & nobody wants the f…ing job.

  • 54 catchy in norway // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:19 PM


    tell me how we will play in the next game

    cabaye is gone, pardew has another week, and a new striker

    i can bet a million pound its shoot from distance, the only goals LDJ will score will be ones he drops deep to get himself or spills from shots from distance

    we do not create

    how do we score goals,, who sets them up , who trains them,
    who tells them who takes free kcks and corners,

    who plays the same longball to willamson

    answers on a post card

    tads and manx are clueless

  • 55 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:20 PM

    I’m not a Pards fan, don’t think he’s that great but don’t think he’s that bad
    He’s a reflection of where the club is under Ashley, pretty mediocre
    But he has enough pros and cons without the need to invent them

    Just makes the look like they don’t think there argument has enough merit on its own

  • 56 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    catchy not once! not effin once have you put up any kind of answer to your over the top opinion on pardew

    but you still havent been on ere or liked any win we have ever had
    now for me that says a hell of alot more than the shit you spout


    but i will
    debuch willo taylor mbiwia
    sisko tiote anita
    arfa remy
    de jong

  • 57 stuart no9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    MANX @ 29—–you will probably be spouting off about this 5th place finish for the rest of your life . If it keeps your happy with that , then carry on – Me personally? i would rather we finish 5th EVERY season get to wembley every season and throw a couple of prem titles in there as well , not just a lucky one-off, ambition is the word your looking for , and you aint got it.

  • 58 Go toon gooooo // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    Players are on the pitch to play football and to score goals not to wrestle with the opposite players(Tiote-Arsenal unnecessary free kick,Anita-Sunderland penalty,Debuchy-red card,Remy-red card).Because of that our club suffers.Hatem Ben Arfa is a player and always will be.

  • 59 Laurent Robert The Legend // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    Read about some angry scenes in the city in the aftermath. But to be honest what are fans supposed to do? If the club is run like shambles by greedy people who are taking soul out of the club. How can people just sit and watch that peacefully? The beer bottles should off been thrown at Cash(King)ly

  • 60 catchy in norway // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    Finnbad The Sailor /

    why dont you go and ask them

    obviosly paul will have left ringtons, but michael leonard is still at wellstrem

  • 61 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    sisko cannot head a ball

  • 62 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:23 PM

    Very true B & B but we are not moving forward. He has done this for years with cheap trainers & tacky trackie bottoms. Why does he need the hassle of a football club. He’s never going to make any money out of it?

  • 63 Uncertain Toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:23 PM

    How can we say that a manager won’t come in and work under the regime? It’s purely a hypothetical that. We don’t know coz we’ve bloody never tried!
    Reeks of group conformism and pooh!

  • 64 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:23 PM

    and storming runs i saw a fe today take the ball with u will ya

  • 65 Lu-toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:23 PM

    Some off you guys just don’t see it.

    Pardew is going no where. He has known from day one what he was getting into. Does not mean he has not got involved and loved being Manager of such a club along the way, but ultimately he has known all along of the way the club would be run.
    He won’t walk because he knew, and he won’t get sacked as long as things tick along, because it works for Cashley

  • 66 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:24 PM

    John Tudor

    Which dude?

  • 67 stuart no9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    daztoon @ 45 why is that comment aimed at me mate???

  • 68 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    hey toss pot show us these 2 teams then
    because i can’t and havent seen them!!!!??

  • 69 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    the one who rants i like his attitude

  • 70 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:26 PM


    A) The point is that Santon is woeful in open play with shots and crosses, and his set pieces are no better. My 15 year old could do better, and so could anyone of our other players – except perhaps Willo.

    B) Marvo must have done something really bad off the pitch to be banished. When he speaks out, he doesn’t seem to know what he’s done. What counts for me is his performances on the pitch, not whether or not Pardew can’t man-manage him.

    C) Are you stating on here that the club will buy a player who Pardew does not want? My understanding is that they all sit down together and agree on a player, with Pardew playing a full part. If that is not the case, where are you getting your information from? You even say that signings are agreed between those lot INCLUDING Pardew.

  • 71 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    Laurent Robert the Legend
    No excuse for that under any circumstances.
    I bet Daz (East Coast Trains) had an interesting shift at Central Station. He certainly did last season

  • 72 catchy in norway // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:26 PM


    go back 2 or 3 threads

    you must be blind, but that does answer a lot

    manx,, when we win , its filled with kkkknobs like you patting each other on the back,

    we dont win games down to good tactics

    we dont come back from going a goal behind unless they lose a player or 2

    we rely heavly on one man shows with wonder goals

  • 73 Schwefelberg // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:27 PM

    West Lanc you’re true.

    The Club has been damaged goods for a long time. Like an old Freighter layed up and nobody wanted. Just rusted away forever.

  • 74 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    someone buys the players for parclueless to pardew

  • 75 daztoon // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    @stuart no9

    You asked why Pardumb deserved an eight year contract.

  • 76 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:29 PM

    John Tudor

    “Does my drinking offend you?” aha nah mate, but I follow him on Youtube as well, TheTrueGeordie.

    His latest:

  • 77 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:29 PM

    The reason MA puts up with the hassle is the advertising is making his cheap tacky shops more money than before,the best bit for him is it also pays for itself

  • 78 Thump // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:29 PM

    De Jong had a decent game for somebody who hasn’t played in a few months. Look forward to seeing him a few weeks when he’s a bit sharper. He was making all the right moves, at least.

  • 79 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:30 PM

    We need a manager who is willing to drop players like Tiote, Sissoko etc when they are playing poor. Pardew keeps playing them when they’re underperforming. Tiote used to be on the bench a lot at FC Twente. Pardew seems to pick players based on their presence rather than their ability. It’s about time Mbiwa came in for Saylor or Willo.

  • 80 Laurent Robert The Legend // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    Need to get this regime out of our beloved club..somehow…..

  • 81 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    Here is a link for that lads that know what the f*ck is actually going on in our club.

  • 82 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    Lu -Toon spot on!
    What were you bloggers expecting of the January window-Ash would splash the cash! – Delusioned I’m afraid.
    Just get ready for more of the same in the Summer when Krul, HBA, Remy & Cisse go to be replaced by Carr’s “wonderboys”

  • 83 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    West Lancs – Mikey loves being the talk o the toon. People at the top love the power and Mikey’s no different.

    I agree there’s little if any money to be made in football; it’s certainly not worth the hassle or the risk for any profit he might make.

  • 84 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    Dont worry Luuk,
    Remember the song
    Things can only get better!!!

  • 85 Laurent Robert The Legend // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    I’ve seen Taylor back off attackers for about 3 years now..If we fans can spot such things why cant the daft managers? Somebody needs to bite Tayls in the ear and tell that..

  • 86 Robinio // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:34 PM

    can someone who was at the game today please tell me how much abuse the FCB ( presumably he turned up?) and co were getting today after that complete shambles? I am voting with my feet , first derby missed for 40 years and I wont be back until the fat thieving bastard is removed

  • 87 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

    Feel sorry for De Jong, just got in there we played shite tried to put it on his shoulders…..

    Feel for him to tell you the truth.

  • 88 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

    So once again you haven’t come up with an alternate for set plays, shooting whilst running with the ball is very different to delivering a set piece
    It may well be the performance on the pitch that’s important to you but that’s not the case at many clubs not just ours training and attitude plays a huge role, as for when he speaks out, are you eavesdropping because many didn’t seem to know even where he was let alone interview the bloke
    And thirdly, so your admitting it’s the fault if the whole scouting, coaching and director staff so why lay the blame on one person?

  • 89 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    Here lads, you know he was right all the time, everything he said about the regime is true and will never change, pro-ashley and pro-pardew lovers choose to ignore and suck up on to the regime. I seriously questions, those pro ashley and pro-pardew lovers work for the north east media or the cockney media down in London.

  • 90 Schwefelberg // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    Toon22 I get this theory also. But I’ve never been totally convinced by it. Pound for pound is it the best strategy? How is it measured? How are metrics applied. Why don’t all businesses do it. I don’t know.

  • 91 Laurent Robert The Legend // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:37 PM

    On the brighter note..Marveaux with the ball is treat to watch.

  • 92 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Laurent Robert The Legend

    Not even that mate, everytime Saylor had the ball, he pushed all the way to midfield and even pushed to striker many times leaving our defence exposed. His seriously stupid guy, I do not understand why he is in front of Mbiwa oh wait, I know, because he threw out his dummy and threatened to leave the club then Pardew starts playing him.

  • 93 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

    Schwefelberg – I agree but it’ll end up at the breakers yard if someone at the top doesn’t start listening to the fans who help pay the wages.
    It’s a bit like the country everyone likes snipping at the other side but nobody actually knows how to fix it

  • 94 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

    catchy so cabeye scoring against man u was lucky
    or against palace
    or our goals against spurs,southampton villa, fulham, liverpool or chelsea!!
    crock of shit!!

  • 95 Laurent Robert The Legend // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    Mbiwa, Marveaux, Ben arfa All they really need is a bit of trust shown in them.But the manager who only takes pride in making players run around like donkeys, even if they are going nowhere. Time Pardew need to realize that theres more to football than just working hard..and what is that? Playing football..grrr!!

  • 96 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:43 PM

    catchy who’d have thought hey!!!
    when we win supporters celebrate there win mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    who the hell would have thought hey!!!!!

  • 97 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:43 PM

    Hopefully that’s the last game Shola plays for the club. Did he touch the ball today? Our strikeforce is fairlt decent when fit. It’s better than Spurs. Cisse, De Jong, Remy and Gouffran is a good strikeforce.

  • 98 daztoon // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:45 PM

    Pardew you can come out of Poyet`s pocket now the games finished

  • 99 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:45 PM


    What don’t you get? Pardew has chosen Santon to take the set pieces. His choice not mine. Santon is woeful at it. Your argument is that Pardew has seen all the other players in training and concluded that they are even worse. My argument is that I’ve seen other players take better free kicks and corners, I’ve seen Santon take shit ones, and I’ve also recognised that he chokes or skies every shot and cross in open play.

    As for Marv, why has Pardew banished him and then resurrected him? He didn’t even get on the bench against Norwich a few days ago, and yet out of the blue, he plays in the big one. Do you remember when Pardew dismissed Willo as “the other guy” and put him out to grass?

    Are you deliberately avoiding the point because you have no answer? Are the club buying players that Pardew doesn’t want? You said I lived in a cave if I thought otherwise.

  • 100 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    btw lads catchy has just said in print!
    that when we win we’re happy clappers and because of that we’re knobs!!
    have a look thats wat he’s said!!1

  • 101 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    i wouldnt let pardwho manage the under elevens football wise or other

  • 102 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    Official comment from the Club
    We tried very hard to get a replacement for Cabaye over the line before the window shut but just came up short.

    Oh sorry this was the quote when we sold AC for £35M two years ago.
    Still the £20M can burn a hole in MA’s pocket for 6 months now.

  • 103 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:47 PM

    door ones

  • 104 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    I wonder how Pardew feels being Poyets bitch ? .

  • 105 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:49 PM

    one time Poyet bettering Pardew tactically is fair enough, but four times isn’t bad luck ladies and gentlemen . Not to mention every time our starting 11 has been the better on paper .

  • 106 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    £20m(Cabaye)+£35m(AC money not reinvested)+£20m(A season promised by Ashley)+£60m(TV Money, said to be more than this!!)


    Remove the £20m promised each season its still £115m

    Hopefully its being paid to the debt which “Apparently” the club still owes to Ashley..

  • 107 stuart no9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:51 PM

    DAZTOON —– ah sorry mate , i forgot i said that . jeez , im going f,,king mad . i’ll be sticking up for pardew next.!!

  • 108 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:52 PM


  • 109 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    Here lads, you know he was right all the time, everything he said about the regime is true and will never change, pro-ashley and pro-pardew lovers choose to ignore and suck up on to the regime. I seriously questions, those pro ashley and pro-pardew lovers work for the north east media or the cockney media down in London.

  • 110 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    No the £20M won’t burn a hole in Ashley’s pocket it’ll go towards the £80000 a week wages for that money grabber Remy for the next five months = £2M. Probably more than any of you lot will earn in two lifetimes

  • 111 Laurent Robert The Legend // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    We fans outside Newcastle are powerless..But ones who are there attend games..Please do something..some banners something..Something to let owner know that this is not acceptable..May even bribe David Gold, David Sullivan to buy the club :-|

  • 112 catchy in norway // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM


    starting at the top


    rich greedy and clueless when it comes to football, getting wrong advice from all the wrong people,

    dont want him here, but has bought a good team


    clueless, and out of touch,

    but imo only here while pardew is here to force him out

    carr, scouting good players, but not always what we need at that time


    his 2 jobs
    1 keep them above informed about his needs
    2 train and sort out what he has

    on both accounts he is not doing a good job

    with the players we have, me you most of us in here could do no worse a job than him ,and i think most could and would do better

    the facts are there, pardew plays % football, shoot enough, some will go in, some will drop to our one forward in the box

    play the ball around going no where, until we shoot
    same week in week out, its sad and predictable,
    wingers that arnt wingers

    2 players who should not have started

    shola, other than his record v them, he is as fit as LDJ, less mobile, and offers zero

    then santon, the boy has been poor for weeks , yet in pardews wisdom, he gives him the free kicks to take to,
    hidarra or dummet would have been better choices

    we could have gone 352 with wing backs

    MYM taylor williamson

    debouchy hidarra wingbackes

    tiote sisokko

    sisokko is box to box

    this is shit under pardew

    his traing sessions must be like ground hog day we do nothing new ever

  • 113 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    What point am i avoiding?
    I’ve said Anita and HBA have also been on set piece duty before and were equally poor who else in the squad was there? This is the first time I’ve seen Santon on set piece duty so can only assume he was selected because he was the best in training, I’ve asked you to offer up another player who’s impressed you on set piece duty, you’ve avoided answering
    And are you completely dismissing that attitude and training doesn’t come into team selection? You keep bringing up Willo, Pardew has always said Willo’s attitude is fantastic and he trains well but the lads in front at the time were playing better so how is that relevant to your argument
    I didn’t say Pardew didn’t want LDJ here, I said it was a JOINT decision not one persons so to lay the blame at the feet of one person is ridiculous
    I’m not avoiding any point, but you most certainly are avoiding answering anything, do you even have a point or are you just angrily shouting at your computer screen?

  • 114 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    Turkish fan

    Either there is something wrong with your sums, or the money has vanished into thin air. If that amount had been applied towards repaying the debt, the club would be nigh on debt free. As far as I’m aware, any sales proceeds from transfers stands to the benefit of NUFC, and Mikey hasn’t trousered them.

  • 115 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    Why can I just not go back to the olden days, when football was not as fu*ked and corrupted :(

  • 116 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:58 PM

    Still it only ever was about money.
    Bring back the days when 11 Geordies would have given their right arms just to pull on that black & white shirt. Then you’d get passion , commitment & ambition

  • 117 daztoon // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    @stuart no9

    That`ll be the day you get fitted for the straight jacket bro

  • 118 Schwefelberg // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    Ashley bought the Club fast and not checked out. So this is his fault.

    Now in most business (except banks) the free market removes those that make bad decisions. This is the capialism that has worked so well for Ashley’ main business.

    So what really happens here is that WE are subsidising his bad decisions.. like a Stalinist.. Ashley wants the free market to make profits but wants the fans and club to take his losses.

  • 119 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    The point you make is “If” it was used or if it will be used or if it will ever be used. With Mike Ashley, he looks like he in it for the log haul to suck up every single penny he can get. By buying the club with the debt, he has had a better turnout of revenue and outcome so…

  • 120 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    just seen the pardew interview and sammi was very ill aswell
    so thats why he came off!!

    how is joe kinnear still in a job!?
    after selling our best player and then filling in with youths we still ain’t anywhere near the quality we need!!!

  • 121 stuart no9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:02 PM

    —btw lads catchy has just said in print!
    that when we win we’re happy clappers and because of that we’re knobs!!
    have a look thats wat he’s said——————-
    stop tittle tattling.

  • 122 elgeordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:04 PM

    Feel so powerless and disheartened, I feel angry and sad and a lot of emotions and as much as I love our club I hate it and I love the loyal fans but I hate them because we are mugs who will take any shit but still go back its a beautiful thing the loyalty the passion used against us but we havnt got the strength because if we got three good results in the next three games we would be happy and we would forget about this me included Im not saying im any better im not im the same its so sad

  • 123 BDin9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    Throw ins would be a problem though Lancs

  • 124 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    When I were a little lad. There used to be a programme on kids tv called Bill & Ben the Flower pot Men
    I think in an earlier life Mike Ashley & Joe Kinnear were the clueless Flowerpot Men (talking nonesense) & Pards the Little Weed who just stood in between them not having a clue just what was going on.
    Anyone agree

  • 125 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:05 PM


    Have you forgotten what you said? Let me remind you: “Pardew sanction a signing? Have you been living in a f**king cave? The bloke has no say in signings ffs, oh unless there poor then it’s his signing, that’s how it works right?”

    Now you say he sits down with the rest of them and has a say. At least we’re making progress.

    My original point was that Pardew must have agreed to the signing of LDJ. If he didn’t want him, he wouldn’t have been signed over his head. So to answer my question: is the club signing players that Pardew has sais he doesn’t want? If so, how do you know this? you’re fond of saying I’m not on the training ground so how do I know Santon isn’t our best set piece taker. You’re not in the board room so how do you know that Pardew doesn’t sanction signings?

  • 126 Uncertain Toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    Why did Sammy start if he was ill?

  • 127 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    No need to direct that post to me, my argument to you has always been the same, when you make sensible posts like that stating your issues with him you make sense

    But when people start making things up it takes away from there argument

    Look at my post near the top
    I agree Pardew set us up to negatively today and we started in the back foot but I also think the players let the fans down as well

    We can say we want x y or z to manage the club but no manager with the slightest bit if ambition would want to work under JFK and Ashley who don’t want the club to do better than mid table

    The only place our view generally differs is i think there’s way more than just pardew as an issue at the club

  • 128 stingray // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    Santon was very poor again today. Not the first time. How can such a one footed (right foot) be played at left back for so long? When attacking, he can only come inside, every time it’s so easy to defend. And to give him the free kicks is laughable. Dummett should play ahead of him easy, if for no other reason than to develop him.

  • 129 NOVA2967 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    Got himself into good position but lacked the killer confidence to finish today. Looks like a good player think he’s a great player just needs some confidence

  • 130 Rotonda heights // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    I think it’s a lost cause with Manx. he sees absolutely nothing wrong in pardew’s tactics and it’s everybody’s but Pardew’s fault so you’re fighting a losing battle.

    By the law of averages and the players we have we should win some games.

    No one wants Ashley or JFK that’s true but Pardew is just as culpable, if not more so.

  • 131 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    stuart wat are you on about!?
    that is wat he said!
    so how about u use your own mind for once!?

  • 132 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:10 PM

    Turkish fan

    You say,

    “By buying the club with the debt, he has had a better turnout of revenue and outcome so…”

    What do you mean? Please finish your sentence because don’t get it. The money you talk about has never left the club. It belongs to NUFC not Mikey. Mikey and NUFC are two different things. Even if the £100M goes to repay Mikey’s loan to the club, NUFC’s balance sheet isn’t reduced.

  • 133 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    How do we know pardew doesn’t sanction signings? Because that’s why mikey bought in a DOF

  • 134 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    Very true but they always did all their talking with their feet in them days.
    They knew where the net was & we were winning things!!

  • 135 BDin9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    Hadaira is a better left back than Santon. MYB is a better CH than Taylor. Simple .

  • 136 welshgeordie9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    82West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    Dont worry Luuk,
    Remember the song
    Things can only get better!!!

    I know another one basket case by green day

    Do you have the time to listen to me whine

    Mind you that’s for most fans on this blog

  • 137 Schwefelberg // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:12 PM

    Blackey You’ve never heard of Enron??

  • 138 welshgeordie9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:13 PM

    Very good band mind you

  • 139 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    whoever is in charge, who has the money, i dont fgive a ff this result will not be put up with and heads should roll

  • 140 AmericanMagpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    The sky is officially falling.

  • 141 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:14 PM


    For a split second I thought Santon had at last put in a decent cross, and then I realised it was Dummet. Tell TADS that. Even Pardew was wincing at Santon’s set pieces, but TADS wouldn’t see that through his little glass window in the corner of his room.

  • 142 JAMSHA // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:16 PM


  • 143 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:17 PM


    So you are saying that if Pardew says no, JFK buys anyway? How do you know that? Two simple questions. And you say I live in a cave.

  • 144 Laurent Robert The Legend // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:18 PM


  • 145 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:18 PM

    rotonda ffs again I WILL SAY HE ISN’T BEYOND BLAME BUT PLEASE TELL ME AND EVERYONE ELSE HIS REPLACEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    FFS HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO FUSKIN SAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    hopefully that will get through to the absolute tosspots of the toon world!!
    and i know who they are!

  • 146 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:19 PM

    Well lads we must move on now. Hard to take three defeats on the bounce by the Mackems. It’s only Chelsea & Spurs next. We’ve a good record against teams above us this season. Just a shame we can’t perform against the shite. Still I bet they wished they had 37 points!

  • 147 Uncertain Toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:19 PM

    Does anyone think Pardew is a good manager generally speaking? Just trying to compile a list of posters whom I will disregard out of turn!

  • 148 yorkymag // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:20 PM

    Jamsha any ideas

  • 149 lesh // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:21 PM

    Rotonda heights

    Imagine you’re a choppy say and somebody’s nicking the tools of your trade and you’re left with old ones that won’t do the job to the standard you want.

    Now it’s fair to say that Pardew’s tools are his players and take the good ones out of his kit and………..

    How can he do the job to the standards demanded by his critics?

    Be fair to the guy. He may not be the world’s best but when he’s been undermined yet again, what’s to be expected.

    Give the guy a break and put yourselves in his shoes, would you walk and lose a big compensation package?

    No, I don’t think so.

  • 150 stuart no9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:21 PM

    MANX @ 128 ——– maybe that is what catchy said , but why are you telling everybody ? what are you trying to achieve ????

  • 151 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:23 PM

    Sorry I must if missed the part JFK bought anyone
    If pardew had the say you says he has then cabaye would of been replaced
    Oh and please show me where I said santon was great today, must be next to the bit where I said Marv was poor today

    I admit I got the cave bought wrong but Mikey’s anus can’t be to dissimilar

  • 152 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:23 PM

    Well stated Manxpie.
    If we’d have won today all this crap would never have cropped up & we would have been safe for another season with 40 points.
    We all would like an Arsene Wenger or Alex Ferguson but it’s just not going to happen.

  • 153 Speed11 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:23 PM

    Uncertain toon

    He is a great manager at making good players look absolutely shite.

  • 154 BDin9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:25 PM must be a lot older than me then pal cos I can’t remember them winning a lot. Me old man is 80 this year so at least he saw FA cup glory

  • 155 stuart no9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:26 PM

    uncertain @144————NO.

  • 156 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:26 PM


    That’s a pretty poor argument to say Mikey’s involvement is akin to Enron. You’re suggesting he’s guilty of fraud. What has he done to give you that idea?

  • 157 Uncertain Toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:28 PM

    I get your analogy mate, however I think there’s some good tools still in that toolbox. If they were cleaned and sharpened correctly the debacle we witnessed today might not have occurred!
    Like that analogy though, might ask permission to use it sometime!

  • 158 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:29 PM

    What a joke, a club like Newcastle with this clown as manager??

    GOALS:148 WINS:57 DRAWS:36 LOSS:55
    WIN %:38.51

    He has been in charge of Newcastle for 1,150 days
    3 years, 1 month, and 23 days.

    Have played 158 games in total, excluding Friendlies since Pardews time here.

    Scored to date 148 goals.

    158/148= 1.067567567567568 rounding up is 1 goal per game on average….

    This is ridiculous, goals conceded each season

    2010/11 – 57
    2011/12 – 51 (The season we finished 5th!!)
    2012/13 – 68
    2013/14 – 31 (Currently)
    Total = 207

    Carling Cup/F.A CUP combined. = 33

    Total = 240, more than we have scored.. These are accurate statistics, even though Im being very one sided on the goals conceded as it should add up to more!!

  • 159 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:29 PM

    Well Big Sam didn’t know what he was doing & still doesn’t. Let’s face it we’ve not had a decent manager since Robby Bobson & ther’ll never be another one like him!

  • 160 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:29 PM

    TADS @ 148 Woo hoo!

    You’re all over the shop, fella. Not for the first time do you hit the key board before engaging your brain.

    Do you even understand what I mean when I use the word “sanction”? go look it up

  • 161 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:30 PM

    STUART @ 147!!!!!!!!!!!

    i will say again how about you look at wat he says himself and you might see but otherwise eventually u will see


  • 162 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:33 PM

    What ever mate
    You haven’t backed a single part of a single one of your statements, you’ve just tried to run around in circles, anything to keep the pressure off mikey boy eh!

  • 163 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:33 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    The money did not/does not go to NUFC. It goes straight to Mike Ashley’s pocket, just like how they have been lieing and saying that SportsDirect pays for the advertisement costs to NUFC.

  • 164 Tsunki // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:34 PM

    I understand that losing cabaye,remy and Gouffran would cause any manager with this squad problems trying to Ho for a win. But here’s the thing – any decent manager would look at the quality of squad that he had left and say ‘ok may not get a winner today but i can Damn well make sure we don’t lose at home’ cue motivation, tactical defensive drilling….

    Nope. Pardew is not good enough to do that, three lousy derbies against the poorest filth teams in recent years and we dont just lose we get humped.

    Bug I don’t blame him, he’s just a poor manager. I blame the whole set up under the SD Beacon. Mr Ashley, I have to work with mackems. I know that you know what that means.

  • 165 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:35 PM


    Are you saying everything is hunkydory at the toon and our current squad/transfer policy is sound.

    Are you saying we are showing ambition with our “make a profit and stuff the team”policy

  • 166 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:35 PM

    BD I’m not quite that old but I was around in the 50s & 60s – just.
    The game’s buggered now lad by money & greed.
    The day of the Toon team long gone – sadly.

  • 167 Belfast // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    The fat pig and his piglets haha

    I quite like that one.

  • 168 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    Can you look up the word “Shill” ?

    Heres a link if ya cant

  • 169 Uncertain Toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    Very true pal

    Get the old man on the blog mate, some winning times anecdotes would be most welcome

  • 170 geordie1892 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    Ruddy, Mactoon, Solano ect. T4C info???

  • 171 Schwefelberg // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:38 PM

    No he doesn’t need to resort to faud. I didn’t say that (as you well know.. but nice try to besmirch me).

    I mention Enron Accounting because it is a well known case of Spaghetti Accounts that nobody saw until it was over, and of lack of transparency and openess. Your seperation of NUFC and Ashley money reminds me of it. Your faith in Ashley warms my heart.

  • 172 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:38 PM

    MA dont give a jot about the fans or the club,he is using us for profit.
    Show me one instance that this isnt so.

  • 173 welshgeordie9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    Mackems might have beaten us today but they will never take away our


    Sorry I couldn’t ressist that

  • 174 geordie1892 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    Born a geordie die a geordie but ive had enough.

  • 175 Belfast // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    Obviously they wouldn’t be nice pigs and piglets like Babe was.

  • 176 Thump // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    @Tsunki: The bloke who schedules my shifts is a Mackem. It’s a painful life.

  • 177 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    Turkish fan

    Where do you get the information that the money from the sale proceeds goes straight to Ashley’s pockets. Just because a few people on here says it does, and it goes unchallenged, it doesn’t mean it’s true. So as you’re making the claim, tell me: Has he used legitimate means or illegitimate means outside of company law? In other words, has it been paid to him in dividends or salary? Or has it been taken by fraudulent means like Schefelberg was suggesting when he mentioned Enron?

  • 178 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    tsunki sorry but the players tried to get forward at every time!
    and tbf if they didn’t then pardew would have been slauted again!
    so how is that fair!?

  • 179 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    I’ve just had an email from Sport’s Direct :
    Sale: 2 Pack Lonsdale Boxer Trunks From £1.79 + Grab a Bargain
    Mike must still be working on sales at this time o night

  • 180 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:41 PM


    Money in/Money out

    There has been more into the club than has gone out.

    Cant explain it away that easy.

  • 181 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:42 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    I want to know exactly who you are, you sound like a journalist from London or Midlands that supports Mike Ashley’s regime and is making profit out of it. From all the utter crap you are saying, it’s like the current image of our club is a success, and that Mike Ashley spends his own money, from that comment about NUFC getting all the money, how can NUFC be getting all the money when Mike Ashley is the OWNER. Go look up the definition of what an owner is. Then come back with proof that Mike Ashley shows ambition and is not pocketing 100% of every money that goes into the club.

  • 182 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:42 PM

    To say they were away from home in a derby match and have been so low in the league, they were confidently and comfortably pasing the ball round and moving. That is what a good manager brings.

    He brings a way of playing which drills into their players that it is ok to receive the ball when the opposition are pressuring you. He brings an insistence on releasing the ball and moving into space to find triangles. You could see it.

    Pardew does NOT do that. He tries to contain in numbers and relies on long shots. It’s so obvious it’s crazy.

    We can look decent in our own third and into the second third in patches of odd games due to stifling in volume and having good players. As a consequence, we don’t have the correct numbers attacking, never mind strategic link up play and running. That is standard. A lack of coordination and attacking philosophy.

    Cabaye’s free kicks and Remy’s long shots have just patching over Pardew’s highly limited management.

    As was mentioned earlier. Pardew is a short term problem, Ashley is the long term problem.

  • 183 West Lancs Geordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:44 PM

    That’s me done but not going to ruin rest of me night by watching MOTD

  • 184 banjax // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:45 PM

    What football club sells its best player without replacing him first ? Who is the director of football at Newcastle United ? Who control’s the purse strings (to make derisory offers to buy player targets) at Newcastle United ? Answer those two questions and you have the reasons for the shambolic goings on at NUFC!!!

  • 185 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:45 PM

    and tsunki he’s slated every week on here reguardless of his defensive display!
    he seriously can’t win can he!!?

  • 186 welshgeordie9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:45 PM

    Cheer up everybody it could be worse

  • 187 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:47 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    “Where do you get the information that the money from the sale proceeds goes straight to Ashley’s pockets. Just because a few people on here says it does, and it goes unchallenged, it doesn’t mean it’s true. So as you’re making the claim, tell me: Has he used legitimate means or illegitimate means outside of company law? In other words, has it been paid to him in dividends or salary? Or has it been taken by fraudulent means like Schefelberg was suggesting when he mentioned Enron?”

    Would you like to show me the transfer activity and how many many times the club said they are not in an financial situation to spend and compete with the likes of Southampton, Crystal Palace, Cardiff, Everton, Aston Villa, our rivals Sunderland. With the supposed money we get each season from TV alone, the constant sell outs of 55k fans in stadium every home game. The £35m suddenly disappearing, the top 20 richest clubs in the world -Forbes Legit source.

    You are just here as a Ashley worker not NUFC fan, can you not see what the website here says? NUFCBLOG.COM

  • 188 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM

    banjax well said but hey the guy who has to deal with all of that is obviously to blame!!

  • 189 BDin9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM

    Lancs,I’m touching 50 now and have seen good and bad. I still go to every home game and probably will till I die. Lots on here say boycott but it’s in my heart and cannot do that.I love the Toon. I hate the regime though and now the season is over for us why not aim our chants at Ashley and his cronies. It unsettled him before and it may do again. The loudest noise from the Gallowgate today was against him.

  • 190 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:51 PM

    Scwefelberg – Me besmirch you!? The Bleedin irony! After you’ve just likened the goings on at NUFC to Enron. You, not me, brought up Enron, some of the director’s of which were sentenced to very lengthy jail terms.

    You’re still saying: “Your seperation of NUFC and Ashley money reminds me of it.” The money is separate and above board. It belongs to NUFC and you are skating on thin ice to liken NUFC and Mikey to the goings on at Enron. Remember Sally Bercow and Lord Mcalpine on Twitter. I think you do and that’s why you’re now trying to distance yourself. You really ought to withdraw your remark completely rather than try to back away in an attempt to save face.

  • 191 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:56 PM

    Turkish fan @ 187

    You haven’t answered any of my questions. Are you saying that NUFC does not own the cash from the sale proceeds? That Mikey has disregarded company law and simply taken it? That someone has rang the changes and the money has suddenly vanished? What exactly are you saying? Or are you simply following the crowd?

  • 192 Uncertain Toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:57 PM

    Is Shearer on MOTD?
    He’s bound to have a dig about no Cabaye replacement!
    Don’t get that Grenier’s( or whatever his callsign is) agent.
    What’s wrong with being Cabaye’s replacement?
    People get replaced in any team or business for that matter.
    Is it not Kudos to him that we went after him?
    Does he think he’s better than Cabaye?
    We’ll see who plays in Brazil I suppose.
    Could Cabaye have possibly told him to stay well clear? We’ll probably never know!

  • 193 Schwefelberg // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:57 PM

    Turkish is right you have a sly reason for posting here.

  • 194 Toonboi4EVA // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    Is that thing still talking shite!

  • 195 Belfast // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    You know it’s really bad, when their big fat center forward had a good game lol

    He was actually taking the piss trying fancy passes and stuff. :)

  • 196 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    Turkish fan

    Before arguing desperately that I’m not a fan, I was at the match today. Were you?

  • 197 welshgeordie9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    Who are you saying that to

  • 198 daztoon // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:00 PM

    So Pardumb didn`t have enough decent players to beat the SCUM.
    Give it a rest the bloke is tactically inept.
    Taxi for Pardumb and the rest of the cockney cnuts

  • 199 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:00 PM


    Ok where is the money you seem to know?
    More in then out is simple maths who currently has the money isnt really the issue is it.
    Selling our best players and not caring where we end up so long as its still in the league is what is.

    So where is the cash then?
    Or are you saying there has been less in than out?

    Simple question.

  • 200 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:01 PM


  • 201 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:02 PM


    I have no sly reason for posting. I just hate it when people hit the key board before engaging their brains. Neither you nor Turkish nor TADS have attempted to answer the hard questions I’ve put to you. Just try it before accusing me of being sly.

  • 202 Belfast // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:02 PM

    I think his agent probably thinks he can join a team like Arsenal or something in the summer uncertain toon.

    Either way he should have been sounded out about a move.

  • 203 Uncertain Toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:03 PM

    Did he not do a sneaky back heel in the build up to a goal?
    Nailed on for the yanks in Brazil with them silky skills mate!

  • 204 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:04 PM


    You seem to be selective who you argue with,it seems the simple questions arent engaging enough for you.

    More in than out explain.

  • 205 Schwefelberg // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:05 PM

    Your amalgam fillings leech into your Brain.

    Go and get them replaced immediately!!!!

    What hard questions????

  • 206 Belfast // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:07 PM

    Yeah the fat center forward actually got an assist.

    That makes me angry lol

  • 207 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    Toon 22 I’m not making any accusations about Mikey trousering money or likening his running of NUFC to Enron. I’m saying there is no evidence to say that any of the sale proceeds have left the club so that they are no longer there for the benefit of NUFC. If you are saying otherwise, I’d be interested to hear what information you have? You’re saying it. I’m asking you for the information. Is Mikey using it to pay himself a massive salary or dividends? Or is he defrauding NUFC as Schmellingberg is implying?

  • 208 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    It seems some people after watching todays “Entertainment” arnt too concerned with our sell and not replace/get people on loan policy
    Our total lack of ambition not caring where we end up etc etc

    Still think its all hunky dory

    Exactly who do you suport and if at the game which team did you goto see today?

  • 209 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:11 PM


    Don’t even get me started with you, you racist idoit. You really want the rest of the blog to know of your disgusting attitude while everyone was posting with anger on the pre-match post? Stay shut and get out kid, I have seen allot of people like you being brave behind the computer screen and being racist.

    Blackley and Brownlie

    “Before arguing desperately that I’m not a fan, I was at the match today. Were you?”

    This kind of arguement? this just makes you look like an total idoit. “I went to the game, so that means I am a loyal and most better fan then you are”.

    I’ve seen many comments like this as well, going to a game does not make you a better fan. Means you have free time on a saturday to go and watch your team play in action and have the financial resources to do so while supporting the regime and paying for food, tickets on their ground.

    Where was I? I m in University, studying away in North West from where I previously live (London). I have no reason to lie, I have supported NUFC ever since I was 9, first ever football game I watched on TV and saw Alan Shearer score. Since then, first thing I do is search up NUFC news, NUFC tag in Twitter constantly on blogs reading up fans opinions, constantly awaiting good news from NUFC, watched every game available on TV & Streaming. Was in tears when SBR had cancer and even more depressed and saddened when he passed away.

    You think going to a game makes you a better fan cause other fans don’t have the financial situation or have family to take care of? Well its clear to me you are one of those idiots that run NUFCFANS on Twitter and try to represent a minority but only person you are representing is yourself.

  • 210 Uncertain Toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:11 PM

    Never thought I’d see another Heskey in the Premiership!

  • 211 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:12 PM


    Quote “I’d be interested to hear what information you have?”

    More money has gone into the toon then gone out in the last 3 years.

    Simple enough,usually if you hadnt noticed teams spend some of that on players.Exactly where the money has gone its an issue.Its where the players went and who replaced them.

    Sell and get load deals in pretend to try and replace players etc

    So again are you saying more has gone out then in?
    You still havent answered have you…

  • 212 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    Toon 22 The money belongs to NUFC. It isn’t Mikey’s. What do you mean, more ins than outs? All the proceeds have never left the club to my knowledge but please let me know if you know different. NUFC bought Cabaye for £4M and sold him for £19M thanks to Mikey. That money should now be sitting with NUFC. Are you saying it hasn’t come into the club or that it hasn’t left the club?

  • 213 BDin9 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    Gentlemen please stop all the besmerching. My wife has dreadful headaches and all this guffaw is not helping.

  • 214 Belfast // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:16 PM

    We’ve probably now gave the fat mackem forward loads of confidence after that farce today.

    Think I’ll just swerve match of the day, avoid seeing that pass again. :)

  • 215 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:17 PM

    toon 22 Money goes out of the club mainly on wages. That is by far the biggest bill. Money also goes out on transfer fees. It doesn’t go into Mikey’s pocket, which is what you and sweffers are suggesting. You can’t simply do a back of the envelope calculation with £35M for AC and £19M for YC etc. Read the accounts and show me where NUFC is losing out on transfer proceeds to the benefit of Mikey?

  • 216 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:17 PM


    Dodge the question?

    Are you claiming that we as a club as sitting on some kind of massive pot of cash ?
    Again if we have money why sign loan players and try bargain bin replacements?
    Yes its a business but we are trying to make money from players at the expense of the team.Who else is doing that atm?

    You keep qouting Kebabs money but AC/tv etc money before hasnt left the club has it

  • 217 SirBobbyTheLegend // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:17 PM

    Just to run salt in the wounds. REMY CABELLA scored 2 goals tonight in a 4-2 win for Montpellier

  • 218 SirBobbyTheLegend // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:18 PM


  • 219 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:18 PM


    You are a payed Shill.

  • 220 Schwefelberg // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:18 PM

    Sickley and Browneye

    They’d tell us if proceeds had left the club?

  • 221 Toonboi4EVA // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:18 PM

    wtf turkishfan101……………Did I mention anyones name? NO. Did I mention yours…NO……..I’ve been ranting about the manager and the owner all day, like everyone else has, so I have every right to voice my opinion over who is running our club to the ground…as for being racist, don’t even go there you utter fool!!! How old are you, 12?

  • 222 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:20 PM

    The biggest income for the club is tv money after that its player transfers.

    Are you saying we are currently without the funds to make any kind of permanent transfer?
    We are still in the worlds top 20 clubs for revinue.


  • 223 JAMSHA // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:23 PM

    Only way fat man would sell the club is if all u people stop goin for the match…. once we are SAFE stop goin for any of our home games let it be empty… im sure the players feel the same as us…

  • 224 Toonboi4EVA // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:24 PM

    Nah toon22, we dropped out of the top 20 for revenue last week…..I see your point tho

  • 225 toon kk // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:24 PM

    Mash is running the club just great saving loads of money, the club is on a sure footing, no worries of us going bankrupt. Or and we take no prisoners!

    F…ing joke club.

  • 226 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:24 PM

    Turkish fan @ 209

    I like that. Let me remind you what prompted my query as to whether you were even at the game as a fan, as I was. You said:

    “You are just here as a Ashley worker not NUFC fan, …”

    Don’t accuse me of not being here as an NUFC fan when I went to the game, especially when you clearly have other priorities in your life.

  • 227 Tsunki // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:25 PM

    Manxpie sorry mate I don’t understand what the argument is. I am saying Pardew has neither the resources nor the tactical nous to arrange a stoic defensive display with the reasonable talent at his disposal against a dire rabble like the mackems.

    What is hour point,exactly?

  • 228 manxpie // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:25 PM

    well on a brighter note
    great britain is winning in a whales vagina!! :)

  • 229 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:25 PM


    Still havent answered.

    Good result today eh.

  • 230 JAMSHA // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:26 PM


    cabella wont come… they would ask around 30mil wich we cnt afford…we cnt afford to even buy a 3 mil player

  • 231 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:27 PM

    @Blackley and Brownlie

    Non-NUFC fans attend to see the game as well, does that make them a better fan then the fans that don’t attend the game?

  • 232 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:27 PM

    Oh we can but MA wont spend our massive pot of cash as it seems we dont have it do we.

  • 233 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:28 PM

    It seems blackey is a shill or a mackem

    Not sure which ones worse.

  • 234 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:29 PM

    Toon 22 You can’t keep saying that money has left the club without telling us how. Tell us how please. NUFC has massive running costs and capital outlay. Yes, you would expect that this year we should have a very good surplus, which makes the club very much more powerful when it wants to pick up more good deals like Tiote and Cabaye.

  • 235 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    looking at the stats come on

    I think I was at a different game. We were dreadful lack any passion, passing, tackling and shooting was pathetic. AGHHH there is always next week at Chelsea AGHHHH then the spuds at home AGHHHH

  • 236 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:32 PM


    I think best thing to do is to stop replying to him now, its like feeding a troll, more we feed more he will troll.

  • 237 SirBobbyTheLegend // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    We can afford, but we won’t spend. Sickening.

    I just hope the way we sold cabaye without replacing him is just Ashley trying to get money back he’s lost since taking over and trying to get the finances looking better ready to sell the club. We can hope.

  • 238 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:35 PM

    Turkish fan – What sort of desperate, ridiculous argument is that? Non NUFC fans going to the game by definition are not NUFC fans. Clearly, going to the game is not your priority in life. I have organised my life to make it my priority. I could have left the Tyneside in search of riches and chose to stay because I love going to SJP. You have a brass neck to criticise me for it. You’re just the sort of fan that Jamsha wants.

  • 239 toon22 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:35 PM


    Please qoute me when i said that.Im saying more has gone in then out.

    So go on qoute me from posts in this blog

    You obviously know where the moneys gone.


  • 240 jimmysmith // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:39 PM

    Was that a team lacking some key players and unable to handle the occasion or did it signal a return to the disjointed side of last season and early this season that couldn’t pass and move in unison.

    I think Pardew has to either attempt to adapt the side to Benny’s strengths or just drop him.

    It’s a appalling situation because Benny is such a different type of player to Cabaye. The whole system would need to change and would not at all likely provide consistent winning football.

    We might have been able to build a top team around Benny if we had Cabaye to pass and move and cover behind him, but now he’s gone we have a real problem.

  • 241 andrew84 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:42 PM

    Everyone’s getting along famously I see!

    Might as well throw my 2p into the mix. If the money from the Cabaye sale has NOT been trousered by Ashley, then I’ll assume we hear no more of that hot air from Pardew about “not being able to cope financially with Southampton/Swansea/Hartlepool United”.

    I can understand why Pardew is putting up with the sh1te being chucked on him from above, but surely if it’s a choice of walking away or being fired, why can’t he just speak his mind to the fans? What is Ashley going to do? If he fires him, surely that’s good for his compensation payout?

  • 242 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    Toon 22

    You said, “More money has gone into the toon then gone out in the last 3 years.” Surely that’s a good thing unless you’re implying you’re not seeing that money and that’s not being applied for the benefit of the club.

    My argument with you lot is that you’re suggesting Mikey has trousered it. Sweffers even likens Mikey to Enron.I’m saying all the money has been applied to the running of the club or for its benefit. Mikey is not bleeding the club of sale proceeds. Why do you suggest he is?

  • 243 goalseeker // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:44 PM

    Let us calmly face facts here. Mike Ashley is a business man he wants to make money which is why he bought Newcastle, hence selling Cabye for about £16m profit after 2.5 years now that is not bad in anyone’s language.
    By the way clubs can refuse to sell star players if they really want to build a squad around them no matter how hard the player may should about wanting away he is under contract and it is up to the club if they want to break that contract by selling the player not the player or the agent.
    Of course the agent will tout his man around(that’s his job) to see if any club will yield and agree to sell a star player but they cannot force the club to do so.
    Before anyone comes on to remind me of the loan he has made interest free to the club, it is not interest free. He covers the ground in advertisning for his real business Sports Direct. That advertising is seen all over the world and drives the sales of his product one way – up. He has made more from his share transactions and share rights with SD than he has ever loaned to Newcastle United.
    He is happy as long as the club stay in the PL that is why he panicked last January when he thought we were doomed for the Championship his revenue would be effected, brought in some players and avoided the drop – success.
    This year he is comfortable in the mind that we will not be relegated so no players added to the squad.
    He has made a net profit on transfer transactions to date. He is not interested in the cups or Europe they cost too much money.
    No he will sit back watch his beloved Spurs when he can, laugh at our protestations and allow us to wallow – only the supporters want success on the field he wants success in his balance sheet.

    Yes Mr Ashley is a business man and we are his toy to play with how he wants if we were his major source of income it would be a totally different story.

  • 244 toon kk // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    We have some decent players but our squad is on occasions very lazy making us so inconsistent. With no pace. Makes me wonder what goes on in training.

  • 245 Toonboi4EVA // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:48 PM


    BANG ON!!

  • 246 andrew84 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    goalseeker – agree with you on all points. Sick of being lectured about how this great bloke has come in and relieved us of all out debts with an interest-free loan.

    Course I’m grateful that the club ‘appears’ to be financially secure….but I’m fairly certain that MA has benefitted just as much, if not significantly more, by having our stadium daubed with his bloody awful advertising.

  • 247 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    I am not the one that is desperate here and yes priority in my life is to graduate, be successful please my mum, buy Newcastle United to see you still complain that I am not a fan cause I dont attend the games due to my personal life and that my family/studies/work come first. According to the responses from you, you indicate you are correct, that you cannot be wrong and you come up with senseless arguments which have answers that are there, wide open to our eyes.

    You are the clueless one, people like you are the same people to backup the government as well that is putting our country down and the dirty MP’s that get a 10% pay rise for going strip clubs and taking drugs with the tax money paid from hard working people.

    I know that has nothing to do with your argument, just as the things you say make no sense and are pointless as its right in front of you that Mike Ashley is robbing the fans, the club, but the boardroom don’t care, the staff don’t care as long as they get paid they follow the leader, and the same reason you don’t care what the government does just like the current regime, as long as you attend the game and get the satisfaction you will continue to support the regime and follow them to aim low, have no ambition, ruin our club, aim for no cups.

    Your problem is you don’t care about NUFC at all from the points you been making to everyone that has said the money has gone to Ashley’s pocket, because the fact is, you deny the truth, you deny his a Fat idiot robbing the fans that work so hard to get a ticket to watch the game, to watch a team they love.

  • 248 geordielad880 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:55 PM

    de jong is a confidence player, great touch, link up, can hold the ball up, works hard, he isnt an out and out striker, more a 2nd striker, remy will work really well with him, have watched him alot, he will come good, that i can promise,




    ——–ben arfa———————de jong

  • 249 sweendog // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    Jimmysmith .. Agreed on the points about arfa .. Although the start of this season we had real problems with balls in the box and will has sorted it out .. Although mbwia was good alongside him whereas Taylor is not .. I honestly think with goufran back santon will have more cover we just need a tweek and somebody to instill the confidence back into the squad which is probably very low now … I think if we are coached to attack and defend as a team just one of two changes can make us a top ten team again .. I also think arfa and marveax need a chance in the ACM role ..

  • 250 geordielad880 // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    alot of people slate gosling, he is a good player, another who needs games, he scores goals if you give him games, in a nolan type role, he deserves more of a chance, better than playing sissoko as a number 10

  • 251 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    poppy cock i tell you poppycock

  • 252 sweendog // Feb 1, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    Geordie lad .. No tiote .. He’s one of our star players this year

  • 253 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:00 PM


    Drop Sissoko, Drop Coloccini for Tiote and Mbiwa.

  • 254 sweendog // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    I would change it a little
    Debuchy mbwia. Willo. Santon/haidara
    Sissoko. Tiote
    Arfa. De jong. Remy/goufran

  • 255 geordielad880 // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    drop collocini, he is the best defender we have, m’biwa for willo i could understand, and tiote i agree has been playing well, but today he was terrible, sissoko covers well when playing right of a midfield 3, and his running power and pace is a great outlet

  • 256 Belfast // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:05 PM

    There you have It.

    The fat mackem forward shot us down.

  • 257 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:05 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    Listen to this guy, If you even have respect for NUFC, you would listen to Kevin Keegan and understand everything he has said here is the truth, and allot more he has not said due to the court settlement which exposes Mike Ashley and the reason he won the court battle.

  • 258 Brutooon // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:07 PM

    We can’t blame De Jong, he is only here to play regularly so he could join the Holland World Cup Squad

    At least he did more in 45 mins than Shola Ameobi did in 14 seasons!!!!!

  • 259 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:07 PM


    No player or CB should be allowed to be straight back into the squad unless another one has proven to have had bad performance or is not good enough. Mbiwa is a class player, and proved that with crucial games with Spurs, Chelsea formed a solid partnership with Williamson. But what does he get? dropped for Saylor because he spits his dummy out threatening to quit the club so understand this please.

  • 260 Toon Tang // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:10 PM

    goalseeker at slot 243 sums up proceedings with precision

  • 261 Tayls // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:10 PM

    How can you say he’s sh1te he only played 45 mins and the entire team played sh1te.

  • 262 Sir Braveheart // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:14 PM

    Want to know why fans will never be able to get rid of Ashley? Because you cant even be civil to each other on a forum designed to unite NUFC fans. To force Ashley to leave would take cooperation, teamwork and fans to pull in the same direction. In one comments thread you have the words racist, idiot, shill, clueless amongst other insults. We’re all angry about todays result and instead of venting that at the people responsible you turn on each other.

    I tell myself that the reason I have little passion for the Toon anymore is because the club is run as a business not a football club, but the truth is its probably equally that I just don’t relate to some of the “fans” of this club any more.

    Ashley has his model, he’s turning the club into a profitable business and even if he hasnt taken any money out yet he will do at some point. I always thought the plan was to get his money back and sell up, but now I think he’ll stay as long as he can. If the fans cant force his hand theres no reason to walk. Trouble is we’re a mid table side, to the outside world thats where we should be. No neutral would rank us over the current top 7. To protest over a mid table finish seems absurd to them so we’d receive little sympathy.

    I cant see anything changing for a long long time. Ashley wont walk and the fans wont stop behaving like children long enough to force a change. Welcome to Newcastle. Makes me sick.

  • 263 whatsup // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:14 PM

    Disagree with those on here who are saying de jong was crap – he looked ok – movement was good – played in the space between the forwards and mid – some nice touches and link up play and got a few shots away, got the ball in some nice positions. All without much match sharpness and in a derby game that is played at break neck pace.

  • 264 Shot Bru // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    Thank f$$k LDJ is on loan…he has always looked like a bit of a cart horse…reminds me of Guivarch…
    To be honest it might be a good thing if we have a shocking run in to the end of the season…
    As we are safe from relegation it might give the fans an opportunity to protest against the owner if that’s what they want to do…
    Pardew should give some of the younger players a go from now until the end of the season..especially Haidara and Sammi…Mbiwa needs to be in for the terrible Saylor or Williamson

  • 265 toon kk // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    Its simple we were beat by a Far better team today. Totally out classed all over the pitch.
    we’re in for a tuff end to the season. To many people over rate our squad.

  • 266 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:17 PM

    I don’t think De Jong is shit at all, its his first 45min since his move from FC Twente, and his touch, passing was good also he had chances on goal which was on target all the time, then you look at Shola, how many shots? and every shot not even on target. He will be ready with the physical side fast, he is adapting very fast so he should start next game, every game he gets to start, more time he can adapt and develop.

  • 267 Toon Tang // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:18 PM

    slot 262, sir braveheart, very true mate, these large posts from yourself and goalseeker are exactly what i’m thinking but cant begin to put down in words so its good of you to ghost write them for me. Cheers brother.

  • 268 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:19 PM

    Don’t forget-

  • 269 Toon Tang // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:19 PM


  • 270 catchy in norway // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

    it’s a long way back from this game

    I don’t feel pardew can pick them up, he looks beat

    carnt wait to say good bye, and Pisa on him as he goes

    the guy is a paracite , trying to get everone to feel sorry for him , for what goes on above him,
    he is in on it, he signed up for the deal

    and prick head manx

    why keep coming back and saying who would we get now, in the past 6 month me and a few others have gave good names that are doing well with lesser squads,

    and yes a believe you and a few others are a bunch of happy clappers , that believe fluky wonder goals are coached into them by AP ,

    shit man anger holding our team back, not moving forward ,

    you never state any facts, we just have to believe your word

    fool fool fool

  • 271 toon kk // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

    If there isn’t some serious investment in our squad this summer which I dowt there will be we’ll be relegated next season.

  • 272 lesh // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:30 PM

    Uncertain Toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 9:28 PM @156 (?)

    Take your point a out using all the tools in your box a d fine but if you’d been trying to do a job and you had a feeling that someone was about to nick some of your tools, you really couldn’t feel sufficiently relaxed to tame your eyes if the valuable ones could you.

    The point I’m trying to make (not very well I think) is that Pardew has doesn’t know what he’s gonna be hit with next. He’s been lied to yet again and that is not fair on him ir tge players he’s trying to work with. Ashley’s behaviour has been deplorable.

    Oh, use the analogy but I’ll expect royalties from you. Post an address for billing purposes!

  • 273 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:31 PM

    Ashley is a dictator and doesn’t give a toss how much we hate him, all he cares about is the Wonga (no pun intended) .

    The only thing that will get his attention is a big drop in attendances at the end of the day yet we fill the stadium week in week out.

    I know it will be hard for some but we must boycott the games and not just lie back and take it FFS.

  • 274 TurkishFan101 // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM

    Anyone on twitter get #mikeashleyout trending, its already trending in the UK, just need it worldwide now. There must be many billionaires checking the Twitter trending topics, maybe we can get 1 or 2 interested!!!

  • 275 brklyngeordie // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:34 PM

    Keegan, Carroll, Enrique, Nolan, Hughton, Cabaye just to name a few that have been been shunned by the club and yes I get the Carroll deal got us silly money but who cares how about keeping players and coaches that had some genuine interest in good for club?!? So obvious this Owner just wants to surround himself with yes men and mediocrity and it’s a hopeless feeling as a fan to know your club has no ambition but to maintain premier league status : .. (

    Is no other way but peaceful protest ladies and gents would say let’s get on field but wouldn’t want this joke of an FA to dock us pts and get ourselves relegated… Wait on second thought hmmm???

    No more fan attendance really only way

  • 276 yo-yo // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM


    Articulate as always
    Polite as always
    Negative as always
    Full of hate as always
    Wrong as always

    Be nice to your boss now if you want to keep your job – it might well be your turn next.

  • 277 clinath@ed // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

    I have a question.
    If all the money we have been saving is still in the club, which i have no reason to doubt.
    Then when Mr A sells up, then does that money go towards the estimated value of the club?
    So he prices the cub accordingly (plus profit) and hey presto….the money has left NUFC.
    Have i read this right?

  • 278 Schwefelberg // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:42 PM

    Sweffers even likens Mikey to Enron

    No I didn’t. You choose to juiced this up a little bit…

  • 279 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:42 PM

    Turkish fan @ 247

    What is that rant about? You questioned me being a fan. So I said I was at the game. You weren’t apparently. I go and you don’t. That is my point. Don’t question my being a fan if you don’t like the answer that says I go to the games and you don’t.

    BTW, I’m not interested in your mum or how you want to please her. It is as irrelevant as the politics you’ve brought into it. You’re now telling me that I have a particular political persuasion; that I support MP’s who go to strip clubs. I think you must be thinking of our previous owners who famously paid themselves big salaries, went to strip clubs, bragged about ripping off the fans and likened our number 9 to Mary Poppins.

    I am simply defending Mikey against charges he’s bleeding the club. Where’s the evidence? Mikey hasn’t taken any money from the club as far as I’m aware, and I simply ask you to show me where he has. Don’t bluster when you can’t do it.

    As for the interest free loan of over £100M, it benefits the club to about £7M a year, straight from Mikey’s pockets to our club’s.

    As for the so called free advertising, why wouldn’t Mikey have NUFC charge SD the going rate for advertising when he is a 100% shareholder of NUFC and only a 62% shareholder of SD? Unless of course it isn’t worth the candle? How much do Sunderland get from advertisers at the SoL? If they’re getting as much as £1M, I’d be surprised, but anyone complaining about Mikey should really bring a comparison to show what could be achieved. Unfortunately, all that’s spouted is prejudice. No evidence.

  • 280 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:43 PM

    All we can do is have faith in the fact that Ashley won’t be here forever and the day he leaves I will be dancing in the streets .

    I just hope when he does sell up we are still in the PL with a decent team.

    Anyone else remember Pardew trying to defend Ashley saying he made mistakes at NUFC and had learned from them ? . What a load of shite, Pardew knows everyone thinks he has no balls yet keeps being the puppet on Ashleys strings.

  • 281 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

    How must Ashley feel knowing that if he walked through the Bigg Market tonight he probably wouldn’t make it out alive ? , being deadly serious .

    If he walked down my street now I guarentee that I would throw him a beating.

  • 282 catchy in norway // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:48 PM


    honestly why do you tolerate incompetence,

    at the end of the day we all have a job to do, but some jobs you do should get extra attention , to make sure your fire proof , do it well , do it better than well

    this is one of those jobs, the last 3 games , Sunderland have bottom or almost bottom , and our team never turns up, this excuse they got over excited

    3 times , today was not a day to fall flat, today was a day that if your gona stake your job on a guy (shola) he scores a hatrick to prove you were right

    he gets his tactics wrong to many times

  • 283 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM


    I have heard it all now. It’s there in black and white. You say you didn’t liken Mikey’s dealings at NUFC to Enron. To support your argument that Mikey is trousering money, you said, “Blackey You’ve never heard of Enron??”

    So what point were you making when you referred to Enron?

  • 284 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM


    I remember Pardew saying he (Pardew) has learnt from his mistakes. I’ve read fans saying that Pardew needs time to learn from his mistakes. I remember a similar, humiliating 3 nil defeat to Sunderland at SJP last year. This one was even more one sided. We couldn’t have complained if it had been 5 nil, we we’re so bad.

  • 285 Uncertain Toon // Feb 1, 2014 at 11:56 PM

    Royalty cheque is in the post mate!

    I just think Pardew was a bit naive to think they’d issue him a cabaye replacement. I remember him saying he expected activity late in the window.
    We knew that it was a very distinct possibility if cabaye goes he won’t be replaced. He really should have been looking at them other tools in the box and formulating a plan. What I witnessed today was a mixyblob of a team put out with no real thought.
    I can’t take getting beat by them lot once, never mind 3 in a row and all on his watch.
    We’re not brilliant, but we’re better than them mate.

  • 286 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:04 AM

    What gets me more than anything else in games like this is Pardew’s complete lack of passion and direction from the touchline. He is a passive bystander whilst I’m doing my nut behind him urging him to sort it out before the inevitable happens.

    Pardew apologists will say they can hear him shouting all the time from the touchline. He shouts two or three times, makes a few confusing and ineffective gestures from time to time, but for the most part, he makes a little note in his book, fiddling while Rome burns.

  • 287 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:05 AM

    we are 13 points ahead of Sunderland and for some reason i believe we are not safe yet, if you look at our next games we have some tough teams to try and scrap results but i can’t see this happening.

    really guys where are the points going to come from?

    Chelsea – away
    Spurs – home
    Villa – home
    Hull – away
    Everton – home
    Fulham – away
    Palace – home
    Southampton – away
    Man U – home

  • 288 jimmysmith // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:09 AM

    I hope he plays 433. With Sissoko in the Cabaye role and Remy and Gouffran wide off De Jong in the middle. Collocini has to come back in, probably for Willo because Taylor is the better long term option alongside Mbiwa, for mine.

    I think they need to move on from that game immediately, we really are nowhere near as bad as all that.

    And with Benny, Cisse, Strolla and Sammy off the bench we do still have attacking options. The reshaping and rebuilding has to start now, and we’ve lost Cabaye I don’t think we should go back to Benny, move on.

  • 289 TurkishFan101 // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:09 AM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    You are clueless, go read my previous comment again. Read it fully then come back with a valid response, you said your priorities I said mine but then you go onto say that you attending a NUFC game makes you a better fan, well obviously it doesn’t as the amount of crap you have spouted out with to be a Pro-Ashley supporter with many other fans here goes to prove that you would be his bum buddy. You have defended Mike Ashley on every instance possible, just like his lawyer who failed against Keegan in court. You have also failed to make a valid point and statement other than argue that you are the better fan and that Mike Ashley loves you too bits.

  • 290 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:09 AM

    we could possibly lose every game from now on looking at the fixtures and funny enough every team we are due to play are mid table teams except Chelsea, Spurs, Everton & Man U

  • 291 Uncertain Toon // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:11 AM

    He keeps writing the sentence ‘What do I do now?’, closes the book, opens it again and hopes the instructions are there!

  • 292 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:11 AM

    i can only see a possible result against Palace and it will probably be a draw

  • 293 stan anderson // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:35 AM

    Sack the board eh
    No sack the fat pig and his piglets.Love it.
    We are stuck in a situation where we as Geordies and Toon supporters from wherever need to do something to rid ourselves of this vermin who owns the ounce proud club of ours.
    Now i am an older man who has always been of the belief that that the majority can change things over the minority.
    We have reason enough to try to change things,but i am not a ticket holder so should i not give my point of view.

  • 294 Schwefelberg // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:40 AM

    Blackley I already explained it. I can’t help it if you jump to conclusions to suit your argument.

    If you want to play the board pseudo-intellectual you need hold credibility by not inflating others words.

  • 295 LEROI // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:47 AM

    Black and White with an army lol, this is what i reckon:-

    Chelsea – away = L
    Spurs – home =L
    Villa – home =W
    Hull – away =D
    Everton – home =L
    Fulham – away =W
    Palace – home =W
    Southampton – away =L
    Man U – home =D

    11 points in my realistic and honest opinion. 48pts = safety.

  • 296 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:48 AM

    Turkish – You go kiss momma! I’ll continue to go to SJP!

    I’m not going to criticise Mikey for trousering money when I’ve got no evidence for it – unlike you who has heard someone say it so it must be true. If he’s taking money out of the club, he is either doing it legally, or as has been suggested by Sheffers, illegally. The company accounts show that he hasn’t taken salaries, dividends or capital receipts – the legal route. Where is the evidence that he’s taken money illegally, like Enron or otherwise?

    I don’t support everything Mikey does by a long way. It should be obvious to a blind man that I think Mikey is making a major mistake by not sacking Pardew. Mikey is holding the club back big time on this major issue. The club has failed to press on in the transfer market as it did when it bought Gouffran, Mbiwa etc. There have been some great opportunities out there but we’ve missed out on them. We should have got Bony IMO; he is the perfect type of player for this club that has a great history of powerful centre forwards. I fear Carr has become increasingly sidelined, and JFK is a curious appointment to say the least. After giving Pardew a chance, I called time on him in December 2012. I haven’t called time on Mikey because he’s put some great players at Pardew’s disposal. Besides, there is no one coming forward to buy the club, never mind someone who I would like to see take over. So what’s the point in shouting for Mikey to leave? If Ciaran can bring forward a credible candidate, I’ll support a call for Mikey to leave. Boycotting games is however a step too far, and comes largely from those who don’t go to games anyway because it doesn’t fit in with the lives they’ve chosen for themselves.

  • 297 Toon Tang // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:53 AM

    “Here are the young men, the weight on their shoulders”

    Night all, im off to my pit to dream of dark and troubling things.

  • 298 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:56 AM

    Scheffelberg – There’s no jumping to conclusions. There’s only one conclusion you can come to when you bring up Enron in support of your argument that Mikey is trousering money.

    You brought up Enron. Only later, you said you were just referring to their accounting practices. Those accounting practices led to the arrest and lengthy imprisonment of some of the directors for fraud. They were trousering money, which is your accusation against Mikey. The more you argue, the deeper the hole you’re digging. Keep it coming, fella.

  • 299 Sazzer // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:57 AM

    Luuk De Jong will improve us a lot once he gets a few games on his belt. I’m expecting this month to become a complete nightmare though.

    Three games with Remy and De Jong together and things could be starting to look good again.

  • 300 stan anderson // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:10 AM

    Some of you lot just dont see it do yah.

  • 301 terencelim // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:12 AM

    @Blackley and Brownlie, you can dream in your own world, but remember to admit mistake like a man someday very soon again.

  • 302 Expat MAG // Feb 2, 2014 at 4:08 AM

    De Jung looked ok for his first game as Sunderland didn’t give him or any Newcastle player space, closing players down immediately. The Sunderland team had desire and the will to win, the Newcastle team even with several Geordies were second best……

    OMG, Chelsea then Spurs up next!!!!

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