Newcastle May Have Damaged Their Chances Of Signing Grenier


We are a little concerned about Newcastle’s move for Clement Grenier last week, and the words of his agent Frederic Guerra, who seemed even miffed by the bid Newcastle had put in for his client – which was around half of what Newcastle received from PSG for Yohan Cabaye.

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Clement Grenier – Newcastle may have damaged their chances

This is what Frederic Guerra told the sports website le10sport on Thursday afternoon, after they had told both Newcastle and Lyon that Grenier did not want to move to Newcastle in January:

“Six months out from the World Cup, is a hasty departure just days before the end of the transfer market a good option? It’s not a certainty.”

“The conditions of his departure weren’t creating a favorable context for his development. Clement would be arriving at Newcastle not as Clement Grenier but as a replacement for Yohan Cabaye.”

“I have the greatest respect for the quality of  a player that Cabaye is, deserving of everything that is said about him – however, as Clement Grenier’s agent I am obliged to say: is Clement worth just half what Yohan Cabaye is?”

“Above all the reasons which have led us to decline the offer from Newcastle, the conditions of the deal didn’t seem fair to Clement.”

It’s those last two paragraphs that concern us, and it seems Newcastle were just not willing to pay that little bit extra for Grenier, and maybe one or two million pounds more would have sealed the deal.

But once again Mike Ashley has his own valuation of the player and he rarely goes above that – and this time it means we have no replacement for Yohan Cabaye for half a season.

There’s something wrong with that somehow, and our approach for the player last week may have damaged our chances of getting him in over the summer.

We’ll know soon enough this summer, when Newcastle and Alan Pardew will essentially have to rebuild the side again, and Graham Carr’s scouting will again be paramount on deciding which players Newcastle will go after.

Until then our chances of making Europe this year have been damaged by what happened last week.

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66 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #1

    Jail’s too good for Ashley.

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  • niafron

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #2

    About Guerra, he is a serious man, and one of the few agents who deserve some respect.

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  • HBA Must Stay

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #3

    Look! They knew it was never gonna happen! Fatty had to pretend he was gonna replace our star player in order to sell tickets and fill the ground! He had no intention. Of buying trendier!

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  • HBA Must Stay

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #4

    Grenier!! F11cking auto correct

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  • niafron

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #5

    Shame for Grenier. A fine player, the best long range free kick specialist we have in France.

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  • TorqToon

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #6

    Grenier is a strong possibility for a summer move. From people I’ve spoken too, it’s mainly the risk to his WC place and the extra pressure of being ‘the new cabaye’ that put him and his agent off the deal. With sissoko, HBA, gouff, tiote and anita, we still have a very good set of midfielders, Grenier would’ve been the icing on the cake.

    Grenier, Cabella and Siem in the summer??! I wish! 🙂

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  • TheToonKing

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #7

    we had a chance there to get a player who could be better then Cabaye, if we would have payed a bit more.

    Our chance is gone. He’s to good for us, would have been a coup.

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  • colwell

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #8

    Its all a massive joke, Cabaye never left at all it was a hoax.

    Lets face it no one in their right mind sells their best,most creative, highest scoring midfield player and doesn’t replace him?

    The manager coming out with Marv and Obertan need to step up is a farce Marv the guy who can’t even make the bench surely is not even a close match to Cabaye and Oba WTF how is he still here? Shola must have told him the secret of a long Toon career even whilst being one of the worst players.

    Can’t wait to see the starting 11 egg will be on our faces, MA is such a little joker.

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  • TorqToon

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #9

    And obviously clubs want more money for player transfers in January than in the summer. Which I totally understand.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #10

    What has money to do with his developement?

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #11

    The most sensible option would be to recall Abeid and give him a chance. He’s a decent young player who should be in the squad. I’m surprised that we have let Gutierrez go out on loan. I prefer Jonas to Sammi, Gosling and Obertan.

    Cabaye won’t be a big loss as Marveaux can step in. Marveaux is a better technical player and can hurt teams.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #12

    tads…I said their Newcastle career!

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #13

    Torq…just not as mate 😉

    …we are still the only team to flock players with replacing them before hand!

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  • Toon-Barmy

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #14

    I thought yesterdays article about Ben Arfa’s contract was interesting , got me wondering when our other players contracts expire, so I put a list together:

    2014:
    Loic Remy (Loan Expires)
    Luuk De Jong (Loan Expires)
    Shola Ameobi
    Dan Gosling
    Connor Newton
    Jonathan Mitchell
    Michael Richardson
    Steven Logan
    Remie Streete
    Brandon Miele
    Lewis Aird

    2015:
    Hatem Ben Arfa
    Jonas Gutierrez
    Ryan Taylor
    Samuel Ameobi
    James Tavernier
    Jak Alnwick
    Lubo Satka

    2016:
    Fabricio Coloccini
    Davide Santon
    Mike Williamson
    Romain Amalfitano
    Rob Elliot
    Sylvain Marveaux
    Gabriel Obertan
    Steven Taylor
    Haris Vuckic
    Shane Ferguson
    Mehdi Abeid
    Kevin Mbabu
    Alex Gilliead

    2017:
    Tim Krul
    Vurnon Anita
    Papiss Cisse
    Yoan Gouffran
    Cheick Tiote
    Paul Dummett (Option to extend)
    Gael Bigirimana

    2018:
    Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa
    Massadio Haidara
    Mathieu Debuchy
    Curtis Good

    2019:
    Moussa Sissoko

    TBC:
    Adam Campbell

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #15

    *with out

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #16

    We’ve only got 5 quality midfielders now and we should have 8/9. Marveaux, Sissoko, Anita, Tiote and Ben Arfa are the only competent midfielders that we have. I class Goufrran as a striker. We have Remy, De Jong, Cisse and Goufrran which is good enough for the time being. Central defense is a concern. We need at least 2 centre backs, 3 midfielders and 2/3 strikers signed in the summer.

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  • beefman13

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #17

    Oops sounded like inspector clouseau in thar previous post Haha.

    We are ringing every last drop of sweat out of our current team, yea we are safe but im deflated as we could really push on and he is more worried about spreadsheets than the fans, he is an unsavoury horror of a character like JFK. Just go forth and multiply mr money bags!

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  • stan anderson

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #18

    Latest hot off the press transfer news,JFK in Barcelona in a last minute attempt to get Messi over the line before the window shuts.
    Apparently thought it was a leap year and the extra day was added on to January,32nd of Jan.2014.
    The Spaniards have put him in the funny farm.

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  • ArtyH

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #19

    We as a club are loosing the respect we once had due to the barrow boy mentality of the owner. As has been said before its time for change. Any supporter buying a season ticket and thinks he or she is supporting the team, think long and hard about it, you are just paying for Ashley’s gambling habits and he is laughing at you all the way to the bank, he does not care about us or the team! All he cares about is a place in the EPL so he can screw as much money out of the club as possible, IMHO after supporting the club for over 50 years I have had enough now. My support will resume when this regime changes. In short I am well pi$$ed off.

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  • ebol

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #20

    Hi Ed. Bit late with this but great news re the latest health update. Great blog, never comment but on it every day.

    From one of your earliest readers.

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  • niafron

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #21

    Not optimistic for Grenier.

    Lyon is now coming back to the top of the charts at Rocket speed. It’s mainly due to the association of Grenier and Groucuff (people say Lyon got the 4G for Grenier, GOurcuff, Gomis and Gonalons and even the 5G with coach Garde!).

    If he continue like that, either they extend his contract, either a big fish will make an offer for him.

    Furthermore, you can’t make any prediction the year of a world cup.

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  • beermonkey

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #22

    @16
    whats the point in giving pards all them midfielders
    he only ever plays the same 11 week in week out

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #23

    With the world cup this summer it will be even harder to get players over the line as all the attention will be to do well in the tournament and not be distracted by which club to move to.

    Many players will also think that if they do really well in the World Cup then they can get a bigger and better move than Newcastle for example 🙁

    We shot ourselves in the foot again and Ashley is as tight as they come. Disgusting way to manager a ‘football’ club were money always comes first! It will take us at least 10 years to get near the CL at this rate.

    Every time we get a near good enough squad to take us there we are instantly left with holes in the team to cover for our key players departure.

    Do you guys actually think we will get at least 4-5 players in the summer to take us to the next level?

    1- Strolla needs replacing – finally
    2- Demba Ba needs replacing
    3- Cabaye needs replacing
    4- Gutierrez needs replacing
    5 Coloccini needs replacing
    etc…

    We’re fcuked as Ashley won’t spend more than £10M on one World Class player, and in a World Cup year we will find it even harder to attract anyone now!

    Fcuking fools running this club know nowt about football!

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #24

    niafron…sometimes one has got to asking himself why not other club came in with a bit for either Cabella or Grenier?

    …I don’t doubt their talent, but maybe just maybe it’s because other clubs don’t value them as high as thier own club?

    My problem with Newcastle is that if we are not willing to do the work in January what makes us think they are in the summer? We going to have to replace oh so many more players then (is that really going to happen?)

    I know where my money are 😉

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #25

    Oh and that’s without thinking about extending HBA’s contract and all that.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #26

    *ask

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  • Tsunki

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #27

    LOUD NOISES!

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  • stan anderson

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #28

    I predict a RIOT

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #29

    JP…are we even sure Benny would want to extend his contract?

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Feb 1, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #30

    Ibiza…says I am not allowed to stir up a riot 😉

    …but someone needs to wake this sleeping giant…people are too worried about their own situation, season tickets and so on.

    If we want change we have to willig to put something on the line…or else we are jjst plastic fans (and from my time on here I know most of you guys are not plastic fans)

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  • wynsleap

    Feb 1, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #31

    £60m TV money, £20m Cabaye money, Wonga cash, Season ticket money, merchandising revenue allied to staff cuts, low wages and never a signing in transfer windows.
    And it can all be done again next season.
    That’s some gravy train that Ashley’s riding!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #32

    tads – if still about

    I still think top 6 is a possibility, not that high, but a possibility.

    We could play remy and de jong…even gouff to as front 3 (gouf and remy either side)….have hba behind with tiote and anita sitting.

    We also have sammy who looked good at norwich, he can do it against those level of teams if not the top ones.

    Then marv should (but won’t) get given a chance t osave his career here and be given some responsibility he seems to want.

    The loss of cabaye with no replacement has harmed our chances of top 6, but still think we have a chance, even top 7 could get us europe.

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  • Toonfan8

    Feb 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #33

    if Pardew has any guts, he will start LDJ upfront….
    ……….anita……..tiote…………
    hba……..sissoko…….goofy(sammy)
    ……………..LDJ………………….

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  • phatt knacker

    Feb 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #34

    Where is the pride boys?

    What ever has happend ( or not happend ) in transfer market has to be left till after the match.
    Today is all about remebering it could be worse we could of be born mackems!!!!!!

    TOON TOON

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 1, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #35

    As for today’s game I’m going for a 4-0 home win….stuff them, they are due it.

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  • niafron

    Feb 1, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #36

    @Jesper

    We don’t have enough money to sign top stars, so we have to be smart and to sign players before they got an high value on the market.

    So i fear we missed an opportunity for Grenier.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Feb 1, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #37

    When we sold Carroll we got players in quite quickly in the summer window just got to hope that we will do the same

    There is a fair few players that are going to be available but looking at the prices that we are going to have to pay do we think Ashley is really going to fund the following (just for example)

    De Jong – 8.5
    Remy – 10
    Siem De Jong/Gremier – 10 million plus
    Bosman eg Ince / Gomis – Free
    Manolas – 6 million

    Thats the type of revamp we need next season are we really going to spend over 30 million?

    I seriously doubt it

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  • Greebol1892

    Feb 1, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #38

    Get real – strolla is going nowhere. All our managers have loved and still love him. I can’t knock the lad but it’s bamboozled me how anyone cannot see how the lad is not a footballer. Great penalty-taker – that’s it!
    Geordie mackem-slayer? Gimme a break!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 1, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #39

    greebol

    i think shola will move onto a championship club come the summer, possibly boro

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Feb 1, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #40

    Shola has not done anything against the Mackems in just under 2 seasons if he does nothing today then he needs to be stripped of his title as “The Mackem slayer”

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