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Kinnear – We Didn’t Want Cabaye To Go – It Was The Right Decision

12:56 am, Sunday, February 2nd, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 99 Comments

Joe Kinnear said early  in January that no Newcastle player would be leaving the club in the January transfer window, and certainly not Yohan Cabaye.

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Joe Kinnear – we didn’t want to lose Yohan Cabaye
But we did


But we’ve come to realize that you have to take whatever Joe says with a pinch of salt.

And in the program notes for yesterday’s game, which turned out to be yet another disastrous 3-0 defeat at home to Sunderland, the Director of Football tried to defend himself.

This is what Joe said:

“We didn’t want to sell him, make no bones about that.”  “Yohan made it very clear to us that the opportunity of playing Champions League football and being part of the sporting project at PSG was something he wanted.”

“On that basis, we felt that if we received an acceptable bid for him, then it was the right decision for the club to do business.”

“Now is the time to look forward, not back. We have a number of highly talented midfielders within our ranks.”

Joe Kinnear wrote those notes before the game yesterday, and we didn’t see many talented midfielders in the Newcastle side.

Too many Newcastle players again showed they didn’t have the heart to fight too much against a good Sunderland side, who were again seemingly more prepared and ready for this game.

And the game was essentially over after only 23 minutes, after Sunderland had gone 2-0 ahead.

It’s hard to think of a more insipid display by a poor Newcastle side yesterday, who again badly let their fans down.

It was a shameful display – especially in that first half – a disgrace – and we’ll leave it at that.

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99 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Sazzer // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:03 AM

    “Make no bones about that.”

  • 2 Sazzer // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:04 AM

    PRdew

  • 3 Phatoon // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:05 AM

    Definitely a Pardew phrase.

  • 4 geordiegav1987 // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:06 AM

    It pains me after 26 years of supporting newcastle utd to say enough is enough.
    I can not keep watching my team play pointless longballs, play players out of position and waste there potential and creative influence, sell our best players and not get in a replacement when they knew all of january he would be going, and continue to use shameobi who as people have allready said wouldnt even make a championship team.
    Mike ashley is a leach sucking the blood from our great club and alan pardew makes decisions and uses tactics that would get a championship manager player fired.
    I think this boycott talk is on the right track and the only way to get ashley out before we become the next leeds.
    I have lived in somerset for 16 years now and havnt had a chance to visit st james since the 97/98 season and I will allways remember how great it was to see newcastle play at home. I will not spend anymore money on newcastle shirts and I hope you fans who have a chance to make the ticket sales decline massivley do so.
    I wont even watch newcastle play anymore after todays display, untill ashley is gone.
    verry sad day for me, newcastle utd is like family to me and today I witnessed a family member die.
    Feck you Mike Ashley for destroying one of the only things I hold dear, I hope someone sh!ts in your cornflakes you fat fecking leach.

  • 5 geordiegav1987 // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:08 AM

    cant even vent my frustration, my comment isnt being posted for some reason.
    its not like I’m being abusive to mike ashley lol

  • 6 Belfast // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:09 AM

    Well spotted Sazzer lol

    Kinnear ghost writing for Pardew it seems.

  • 7 petey // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:12 AM

    Is kinnear serious? He has been paid a years salary so far too come in and make singings… So far I count zero permanent signings and yet he is telling us to look “forward” …..

  • 8 Belfast // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:14 AM

    Funny how there’s no explanation for not replacing him.

    Time to look forward.

    If today was looking forward, i’m not to keen.

  • 9 mattnufc // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:14 AM

    Yes, it probably was the right decision, but not replacing him wasn’t you utter tosspot.

  • 10 Schwefelberg // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:15 AM

    Blackley, Enron is a euphemism for lack of transparency and company spin. You chose your pseudo-intellectual take.

    And where was the accusation??

  • 11 Grumpy // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    We need some “English” in the mid, someone who knows how play football. Bunch of pansy’s we have now .Like fragging zombies out there.

  • 12 Thump // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    We have a number of highly talented midfielders within our ranks.

    And yet none of them can fill the gap.

  • 13 lesh // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    Yes Joe, selling Cabs was the right thing to do if he wanted Champions League football.

    But Kinnear should think about answering some questions:

    • Why couldn’t Cabs see the potential for achieving ECL with Newcastle United?

    • How long has Kinnear known of Cab’s ambiton?

    • Was Kinnear oblivious to the likelihood of an offer from PSG at the very least? If so, why?

    • In any event, Cabaye would be away before next window at the very latest – why was there no replacement in place?

    • Why wasn’t Grenier and Cabella’s interest and availability confirmed before wasting time and money on apparently trying to sign them?

    • Why offer terms that were clearly derjsory and. In Grenier’s case, insulting?

    • Why can’t Kinnear persuade Ashley that his assessment of player values is out of kilter with reality?

    • Why persist with the seemingly bi-nnual charade over transfers?

    • Why is the squad being weakened?

    • When will Kinnear acknowledge that the talent we have in already is not good enough to make a reasonable challenge in the Premier League?

    • Why can’t you Kinnear, be honest with your manager, Pardew?

    • When Mr Kinnear are you going to be honest with Ashkey and yourself and admit that you’re not up to tge role of DoF at Newcastle United?

    • When are you going to face the fans as you promised?

    • When are you leaving?

  • 14 TurkishFan101 // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:22 AM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    “Boycotting games is however a step too far, and comes largely from those who don’t go to games anyway because it doesn’t fit in with the lives they’ve chosen for themselves.”

    Yep, I am a “momma’s” boy got a problem with that you immature idiot? Boycotting games is a step to far?? I recommend every Toon fan to step away and not talk to this guy, clearly he is a gutless idiot or most likely a Mackem. According to this muppet, every fan that wants to protest and boycott games are not the real fans and do not even attend the game. You once again for the 4th time declare a fan that does not attend games is not a real NUFC supporter.

    Get the fu*k out of here you pro bum ashley fan, you would probably get to your knees and take it up from behind if he offered you free tickets and sports direct mug. Disgusting, utter disrespectful pro-claiming that other fans are declared as a “lower” no view no say cause people like you that say “I attend every game, so I rightly know the truth about Ashley and he is taking us the right direction and know better”.

    You would sit on your ass and could not care less if we got relegated as long as your bum buddy Mike Ashley gets all he wants and needs from the likes of you bum chums. I have the guts to reveal what I do in my life and my support for NUFC and wont let people like Mike Ashley ruin the club then it already is and people like you that don’t need to be here rather be Mike Ashley’s toilet paper as he will use you once and flush you down.

  • 15 Schwefelberg // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:25 AM

    Great questions Lesh

  • 16 lesh // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:30 AM

    TurkishFan101…. Wake up at the back there! Blackley & Brownlie’s voicing an opinion on behalf if those who’ve already spent hundreds of pounds on their tickets. The days of season ticket holders being in the minority are long gone and the casual supporters are in the minority.

    Try attending SJP and before that have a drink with the fans and you’ll be greeted with their assrssment of your assessment.

  • 17 RonVanDam // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:33 AM

    Its sad cabaye isnt here but 20m plus add ons for a 28 YEAR old who wanted to leave is very good business

  • 18 RonVanDam // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:34 AM

    Down side of the deal is we didnt get in a like for like replacement

  • 19 lesh // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:37 AM

    CheersSchwefelberg, we try to please.

    It’d be nice if questions of that nature from fans or fabs groups were be published in an open letter to the media – after they’d been submitted via the Fans Forum and ignored.

  • 20 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:47 AM

    hey lads according to well placed sources alan pardew will be gone in the summer and replaced with sean dyche from burnley.

    Makes perfect sense to me as we are a low budget team and sean seems ta really get the best out of players and will bring alot of passion to the team.

    A low profile boss but seems to be heading for big things they dnt call him ginger mourinho for nothing.

    Watch the space

    mite bring danny ings with him we could do with a goalscoring striker.

  • 21 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:48 AM

    Joe’s full of shit,i’ve said today we could have kept Cabaye,all we had to say was”you can go at the end of the season,not now,we need you”,he would not have gone on strike again this close to world cup,but jabba decided to take the money.

  • 22 nufcusa // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:50 AM

    Ed is a total wind up merchant who changes more than the weather.

    Slating a group of midfielders for a bad performance when in recent weeks he has waxed lyrical about how good these same players are.

    Sometimes you have to accept that a team plays badly, even when it is against your biggest rivals.

    Info not think for one second that we have a midfielder to replace cabaye but to now turn on sissoko, tiote and Anita while he has praised enormously in the last 8 weeks is bollocks

  • 23 Unbelievable Tekkers // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:51 AM

    Ben Arfa 11

    Where did you hear that? If Pardew managed to survive last summer when we almost got relegated then he will definitely survive this summer.

  • 24 nufcusa // Feb 2, 2014 at 1:54 AM

    It is the fickle nature of people on this board that pisses me off. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but at least keep it consistent. Be a realist or a fantasist. Be an optimist or a pessimist . You can float between them when a result is good or bad.

    Same way you can’t claim “I’m never going back” or “I’ve list faith” and as soon as a new messiah comes in claim that you have never been away

    Either support the team or f**k off.

    If my bosses had no ambition to grow our company into a leading brand and be the best we could be what would my motivation be to work hard? That is what nufc have done. Taking away the passion of players cos we do not want them to succeed.

  • 25 Schwefelberg // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:05 AM

    Blackley you went quiet.

    Trouble to find my accusation Ashley trousered money?

    If you want to play the blog know-it-all, you need to get your facts straight.

  • 26 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:07 AM

    from what i gathered there is costant unrest with the current playing squad and there starting to lose faith in pardews tactics and choices of who starts.

    1 thing i do know is that marveaux has been to the root of the unrest players like tiote and cisse arnt happy and himself isnt happy the final blow was when he wasnt on the bench for the cardiff game in fa.cup that explains why he finally played some part in the defeat yesterday due to players forcing his hand.

    I can see where the players are coming from when you a talented pacy player in your squad and you cant even make the team ahead of obertan it makes you question everything players also werent hapi when colo replaced mbiwa just like that.lots of frustration in camp which the 1 thing pardew did have was the gud spirit at the club now thats deterioting, i have it on good grounds that sean dyche will take over in the summer and im pleasantly happy bout dis im impressed how he sold there goalmachine austin yet kept it together,they are a v.determined hard working side if he brings that to club we al be hapi but i also tink he has dat touch of quailty to bring us sum sxi footbal to if he had better players to work with.

  • 27 nufcusa // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:12 AM

    Ben Arfa

    Your statements have some mileage. Haidara has played as a replacemt for santon in recent weeks yet today dummett comes on – why?

    Marv has not kicked a ball in months. Hung out to dry today. Will probably start at Chelsea, we will get stuffed and the poor guy will never be seen again.

    I’m not saying he is the answer but Christ, give lads a chance and keep them hungry to play. Give them a hope they might get more than 10 minutes in 5 months

  • 28 Blofal // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:13 AM

    Everybody knew Cabaye was going to go.

    Contingency plans should have been laid out 6 months ago for his replacement. replacing him in this window or the previous one is just bad management.

    We should not have been left at the mercy of greedy agents, players and clubs with just a few days in the window left. A replacement should have been locked in before he left.

    JFK and Ashley… f@ck it im just wasting my breath.

  • 29 usmagpie // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:25 AM

    Honestly, Really, Ambition, Business, Quality, Thankfulness, Deserving, Leadership, accountability.
    All things needed Mr.JFK and sadly you have none of these qualities. What a #u@k-ing joke this guy is and of course the puppet master. M.A ( Minor Ambition ) ( Money Always ) ( Major A-hole ) I could go on all night.

  • 30 Thump // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:29 AM

    @lesh (12): Brilliant post.

  • 31 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:39 AM

    yes usa ur rite. I tink pardew and our board are reali confusing.

    The saddening thing is we trade like a league 2 club.

    When we sell our best player to fund a loan signing then you know theres trouble brewing.

    Our next season strike paternship wil be campbell and armstrong. I dnt know to much bout armstrong but campbell couldnt even make it at carisle what does dat say?

    Our big new signing will be shola ameobi on new 8 year contract.

    I remember the team under sir bobby we went 1 day to sunderland and won it with a dabizas header and we went top of the table so much passion and joy.

    Oliver bernard and laurent robert solano on the right and shearer knocking balls down to bellamy.

    Best memorys ever.

  • 32 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:46 AM

    tim krul gk
    debuchy rb
    woodgate cb
    colocinni cb
    bernard lb
    solano rm
    tiote cm
    cabaye cm
    robert lm
    shearer cf
    bellamy cf

    mouthwatering.

  • 33 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:50 AM

    It was disgusting that Ashley and the fat joke already made up their mind 6 months ago that Cabaye will not be replaced.

    They knew at they let it happen. I’m curious to see how many fools go ahead and buy season ticket for next season after their hard earned money of season ticket for the current season is sitting nicely in Ashley’s pocket.

  • 34 lesh // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:54 AM

    Cheers Thump but it’s (12) not so brilliant. Just an idea that may in principle be a useful tactic for those who are unhappy with Ashley’s stewardship of Newcastle United.

    The fans groups that attend the forum might consider a real attempt at encouraging constructive dialogue with the club, partnership, cooperation in a non-confrontational manner. Doing that should, if handled properly, absolve them.of any criticism.

    Then, if that doesn’t work, raise the concerns that have been raised with the club hut remain unanswered in the form of an open letter in the press.

    But one would hope that things do not need to go that far – it’s down to the fans’ representatives to make sure that dialogue remains constructive throughout.

    Just a thought

  • 35 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:55 AM

    ilovetoon? Why wouldnt people buy a seasonticket?

    You talk about not filling ashleys pockets but dats not important your buying a ticket to see a football match played against 2 very good teams.your ticket is for you to enter a fantastic stadium and watch the team you support with pride whatever ashley does it shouldnt stop you supporting your team.

  • 36 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:59 AM

    it be a different thing of course if you give ashley money every week to put to transfers and he aint doing it.

    You buy a ticket aint for transfers u buy a ticket to sit on a seat and enjoy a football matches of course sumtimes it doesnt go the way u planned like ur team loses etc.

    Same reason you buy a ticket for the movies to enjoy the film u picked not for them ta invest in bigger screens etc.

  • 37 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:06 AM

    @Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:55 AM

    Your analogy of watching a movie in hope of bigger screen is laughable. Find another one to suit your argument.

    Anyway, if you truly support the club, we want the best for Newcastle. Budgets for transfers and all, is through big money received from season tickets. It all contributes to the finance.

    What we want to do, is to squeeze him further to get him out of the club. The fans living there should see the bigger picture and do what it takes to get him out and send a message across. The best way is to boycott the games, and don’t buy the season tickets. Let him know, he’s not wanted.

    Fans pay to watch the team and want their team to do well. Taking hard earned season ticket money and not signing a single player to improve our team, is stealing. Its downright theft from fans as far as i see it. And Ashley is robbing them. Period.

    Are you gonna happily buy season ticket if the fat joke goes out and loan a couple of wee players while we offload our best players??

  • 38 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:06 AM

    if the tickets are unreasonable then u shuldnt buy 1

    but if the ticket price is fair why would it bother you where the money is going as long as u got what u payed for and dats sit on a seat and watch ur team play

    i would complain if our players were school kids

    but we have lots of international players in our team it be worth the entrance fee alone if ben arfa scored a great goal again and if ur team dnt do wel u cud always watch the slick oppostion players like suarez aguero etc.

    U get what u pay thats for sure boycotting matches wnt change anyting he wil stil be here til he wants to go.

    Yes he is a cancer no doubt but we are newcastle and we be rid of him 1 day

  • 39 beermonkey // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:15 AM

    ben arfa

    is this not a rumour born out of wishfull thinking
    any journo could claim there is unrest in the team
    and the way pards has run the team u could claim its true
    I hope it is, I would rather a british manager than a foreigner but I know nothing of the bloke u speak but have danny inges,

    I see woodgate in ur list that has to go down as the best bit of business ever sold to Madrid injured for ?? cant remember better than 35 for carol

    shame he never regained it as player was a shame

  • 40 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:16 AM

    maybe 10 years ago boycotting matches wud get rid but not now tv money is way more than gate receipts he wnt care al he do is sell a player off for 10 million to make up a loss

    so if u want krul or tiote sold then continue ur little boycott cause if loses money then he only sell more of our players.

  • 41 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:19 AM

    yes beermonkey- i tink woodgate was a cracking player but he did better in his 30 games or so than boumsong and bramble ever did just an injury prone player yes we did wel ta get rid but madrid had the last laugh when they gave us owen?

  • 42 beermonkey // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:28 AM

    I forgot about owen damn yes there revenge was sweet

    is there an answer to getting rid of the fat man and co,

    dunno tbh
    protesting is the only thing fans can and boycottin I cant see another way of voicing our opinions

    what is obvious with the new tv cash if we don’t invest in the team 15/20mill a season we will slide down till were religated cos teams coming up will be able to throw 50 60 mill at staying cos even if they go down they get there balloon payments, look at what some teams have thrown at it this year to make sure they stay up, west ham spent loads

  • 43 K T Cat // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:29 AM

    We have 32 goals this season. For today’s game, 24 of them were suspended, injured or sold. Yep, Pardew’s to blame. No question.

    Kinnear and Ashley have got to go.

  • 44 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:30 AM

    the record newcastle hold that no1 can beat.

    No club apart from newcastle has lost there 1st 3 champions league games and went. through.

    Feynoord 2 newcastle 3 surley the best game in the last 15 years?

    My fav game anyways.happiest game ever

    i tink one of the worst games was when we got trashed by liverpool at home and if it wasnt for shay given it cud of been 15-1 ? Given left a few days later.

  • 45 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:36 AM

    beermonkey ur right west ham spent loads because the owners are ambitious unfortuntly for them they dnt got graham carr and buy duds.

    As i said earlier we are in trouble if we have ta sell our best player to fund a loan signing.

    I hate when pardew cums out saying we cnt compete with man city etc. Obviously numpty.

    The question people should ask is why are crystal palace spending more money than us,we got bigger stadium richer owner more fanbase came 5th europa league.

    They spent over 5 million on gayle? And we have to loan players who aint wanted at there clubs .joke.

  • 46 Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:42 AM

    kt cat you make a gud point we need more goals

    but shouldnt you have creativity in your team if u want goals players like ben-arfa and marvaux shud of played alot more dis season?

    I reali dnt know what marvaux has done look at his assists at the end of last season he even got cisse scoring.

    Maybe we would score more goals if we had gameplan from what i heard we had 194 long balls and 0 reach the intended target.sayr it all.

  • 47 beermonkey // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:53 AM

    west ham are waiting till they move into the new stadium and they can then sell the one there in,

    loans if used well can be a good way to beef up a position that’s light if used the right way
    everton got a couple really done well the left back did well when baines was out think he even scored

    if a club like ours are getting in loans cos we cant affored to buy there is something wrong

    so much been said on our finance’s, I tend to ignore it all both sides take the numbers and use them to beat the other side, bottom line is club made profit, if nothing else profits should be reinvested, although we got new training facilities due to be built that’s around 20mill if mem serves me so thanks mr cabaye, u see how easy it it is lol

  • 48 Newtain // Feb 2, 2014 at 3:55 AM

    I very very rarely post but I feel the need to vent on a few issues.

    1) Nufcusa got it 100% right with the point that we’ve taken away the passion of the players because the club DOESN’T want them to succeed. How backwards is this? Show me one other football club in the world where the owners want the team to finish mid table and not engage in those ‘pesky’ cups

    2) The tactics, oh god the tactics. While Pardew has his hands tied with some things, why on earth must we play the long ball so often? I don’t believe this is the choice of the players to do this, but if it is then Pardew should tell them to stop! We played against Brown, O’shea and Bardsley yesterday, there was no chance they would lose any headers at all. Worst thing is, we look deadly when we play short passes on the floor – it always ended in a shot (albeit a woeful weak effort).

    3) Final point, we need to do something to get rid of the idiots in charge. I joined a facebook group months ago called ‘mike ashley out poznan protest’. The whole concept was to do the poznan before kick off and at half time, and chant against the regime. Nobody has to avoid the games, nobody is “not supporting” the players, and we get the point across. Simple idea, but it would get noticed.

    On the issue of “not supporting the team”, i came to a realisation today. What are we supporting now? A team that deliberately doesn’t try its hardest 100% of the time because it isn’t profitable to compete sometimes. Baffling.

  • 49 theartfuldodger // Feb 2, 2014 at 4:08 AM

    This is ridiculous.

    Ashley has literally taken the club away from the fans.
    Why cant people see that.

    Ben-Arfa11

    You dont like what Ashley is doing. What are yr next steps ?
    Judging by your posts, nothing except commentig on blogs.

    If you think an attendance of 10K will not affect Ashley is any way then that actually drives home the point of not bothering with his club.

  • 50 theartfuldodger // Feb 2, 2014 at 4:11 AM

    And this thing about protests getting noticed ?
    The only person who should notice is perhaps another rich owner.

    There is no significance of anyone else Ashley Kinnear Pardew Players Media Otherclubs etc noticing. It wont make a difference.

  • 51 willowdalerez // Feb 2, 2014 at 4:13 AM

    It is clear Ashley has given free reign to Kinnear with respect to outs. Not so clear about ins. Not making excuses for him just that selling Cabaye made sense not bringing Grenier in for him did not and for all the hate on here I think we can all agree ol’ Joe would recognize that so all I can figure is Mike said no on Grenier and Joe is happy to be paid and say nothin more.

    As for Pardew I’m one who had no love for him and wanted (and still wish we would have) kept Hughton. That said, for all the hate, we have done remarkably well under him when we have been healthy, had decent players in and no suspensions (admit it… who on here had thought we’d have been top 8 at this point in the season at the start of it even with Cabaye).

    IMO Pardew is probably looking for an out as much as Remy… Just not as many mgr positions out there so playing the obedient soldier until he has an offer… Think about it… The fans have it in for him, his squad is miserably thin even when we have a few great players in and he has few options. If you were him how would you have upped our game… Not started Shola or subed him out… Okay but would that have reversed the outcome? Not in my mind.

    Another mgr may have been able to infused more energy more into the lads but Pards is probably too miserable after the betrayal of losing Cabaye without an obvious replacement to raise his own emotion forget the squad. We have no player to take dead balls and who can blame him for wasting HBA’s potential in the midfield by playing long ball when Shola is an obvious big target and HBA has no one to play off of or into with any style or elegance (Remy and Cabaye missing).

    We need Pards out but not b/c he has no skills as a mgr but b/c he has given up on top mgmt… Honestly who could build a legacy with a squad that routinely sells it’s best and brings in just enough to remain in the prem. My worry is any new mgr would eventually go through the same cycle of hope and disillusionment, Ashley has no real vision or ambition for the club… For now I’ll be content if we stay up and develop some talent in our youth program.

  • 52 beermonkey // Feb 2, 2014 at 4:15 AM

    lack of goals is down to pards we never have players getting into the box so many times debuchy has whipped cracking ball into the box and there is no1 or 1 player in there, when u watch them as soon as debuchy goes past sissoko, sissoko stops, why he should be breaking his neck to get into the box, its the way pards sets them up, cisse stopped scoring cos no supply its simple he will score hat full of goals if the team plays to his strengths, ok him goin wide right didn’t help him but no striker like goin out wide, the press don’t help I remember when ba was on the left and cisse scoring it was all ba aint scoring whats up with him,

    if pards could change his attitude as he seems to be my way or the highway, instead if he looked at the squad and went to get the best out of players, cisse we invested 10mill in him a significant amount we have the players to get him back on the goal trail, but he wont change so at least so we could recoup our investment

  • 53 theartfuldodger // Feb 2, 2014 at 4:26 AM

    The same people who mourn 2 days back about lack of transfers, shout against ashley and kinnear, now question why Pards or players arent motivated.

    WHAT ??
    If you work hard all the year round and instead of getting bonus, they reduce yr pay or increase your work, will you have the same motivation or will you go out looking for another job.

    A new manager will get disgusted after some time when shot down repeatedly. The whole circus will repeat after a year.

    Id be disgusted if Pards is sacked now.
    It would just be a ploy to keep people quiet and give hope rather than any intent of growth.

  • 54 theartfuldodger // Feb 2, 2014 at 4:32 AM

    When the owners do not want success at the club, new manager cant do a thing. Whatever he does will be down to luck. If we are 3rd in the table and get an injury, we wilk not get another one in. Manager will complain as we slide down the table.
    New manager new dof new this and new that..All will make a difference for few months.

    Our plauers are good but not world beaters. Santon,Sissoko Anita are above average. But that is it. Just because you know them well does not change that fact.

  • 55 Klatoon // Feb 2, 2014 at 5:15 AM

    Still laughing at Santon being our set piece ‘specialist’. And he even did the CR7 stance at one point. LOL

  • 56 lesh // Feb 2, 2014 at 6:04 AM

    A little article you may have seen in the last week ir so.

    It paints a wonderful picture of our esteemed Director of Fooball. Yup, that’s the one – Joe (trust me on my signings) Kinnear:

    http://metro.co.uk/2014/01/21/kicking-out-joe-kinnear-would-be-best-transfer-window-deal-newcastle-united-could-do-4272001/

  • 57 whatsup // Feb 2, 2014 at 6:09 AM

    Not explaination yet to be given the root causes of why cabaye wanted away. Or what you intent to do about it jk.

  • 58 Greebol1892 // Feb 2, 2014 at 6:18 AM

    Ashley wants Pardew to quit that’s why JK is the usurper. And he is happy to make money out of the club. That’s the level of ambition.
    For the first time I actually feel a little sorry for Pardew; but he is still utterly clueless.
    Guess we’ll have to settle for mid-table finishes while fatso is here.
    Expect bargain basement signings in the summer.
    Welcome strolla to being 1st choice striker as well, which boils my yellow-water….

  • 59 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 2, 2014 at 6:39 AM

    “We didn’t want to sell him, make no bones about that.” “Yohan made it very clear to us that the opportunity of playing Champions League football and being part of the sporting project at PSG was something he wanted.”
    Failed to mention you had an agreement in place with him from the summer though
    Or that you’ve had since August to find and line up a replacement
    As for having a wealth in talent in midfield are you looking at the right team sheet?
    Who in that squad are you looking too to replace Cabaye? Tiote, Anita, Sissoko none have even similar creativeness, passing ability or eye for goal, or is he thinking HBA or Marveaux, neither if which are near good enough to fill his role

  • 60 Jail for Ashley // Feb 2, 2014 at 6:45 AM

    Firstly,
    Ashley does not want Pardew to quit that is why he was given an eight year contract, why doesn’t he walk ? Because imo he is 100% complicit in this eight year plan and will recieve a big fat bonus at the end of it.
    The club made a statement in not bringing in De Jong until after Cabaye had been sold, it basically says that players will not be bought unless financed by player sales, last January being an exemption due to the mess we were in, on that logic Cabayes fee will have to fund two strikers and his replacement unless of course it’s already been spent last January.

  • 61 Lu-toon // Feb 2, 2014 at 6:49 AM

    Morning Guys, sorry but i could not muster a Good Morning there

    Some off you guys just don’t see it. All this tap of Walking or Quitting

    Pardew is going no where. He has known from day one what he was getting into. Does not mean he has not got involved and loved being Manager of such a club along the way, but ultimately he has known all along of the way the club would be run.
    He won’t walk because he knew, and he won’t get sacked as long as things tick along, because it works for Cashley

  • 62 Jail for Ashley // Feb 2, 2014 at 6:50 AM

    Lesh,
    Good article, malevolent, the best word yet to describe our portly owner and believe me we ain’t seen nothing yet.

  • 63 Blofal // Feb 2, 2014 at 6:51 AM

    Cabaye gave the reason he left at his first press conference where he deflected a question asking if he left Newcastle due to lack of ambition on the clubs behalf.

    If we had a good chance of Champions League Cabaye would still be at Newcastle. He knew the clubs aim was just to stay in the EPL and nothing more… so he left.

  • 64 Jail for Ashley // Feb 2, 2014 at 6:53 AM

    Lu toon,
    Some people on here just don’t and won’t believe that and think that Mikey will hire someone better, they better wake up fast as he’s here to stay and Malevolent Mike is more than happy for this state of mediocrity.

  • 65 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:00 AM

    JFA
    Ugh “mikey” makes my skin crawl reading that crap from the lad

  • 66 Jail for Ashley // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:00 AM

    From NUFC.com:
    The issues at hand are far bigger than him though and swapping him for the next out of work boss prepared to be hung out to dry by his employer would solve nothing.

  • 67 Jail for Ashley // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:02 AM

    tads,
    What’s with that blackley and brownlie calling him mikey all the time, is that lurely to get peoples backs up.

  • 68 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:02 AM

    @Jail for Ashley // Feb 2, 2014 at 6:53 AM

    Your right.

    Its shocking people like Arfa-11 believe that boycotting games is the way to go.

    -Not spending a single penny to improve the squad with a signing.
    -Robbing people who diligently buy season tickets to support the club with hope that it grows. Instead we sell our best player with no intention of replacing. 2 loan signings lol.
    -On top of stealing from people who pay season tickets, he has his Sports Direct logo plastered everywhere in St James Park and no one knows if he is paying anything at all or how much. Finance of that aspect is like a black hole. If possible he would plaster his SD logo in the centre circle.

    Fans living there has the power to do something. The fan who ran onto the pitch yesterday to threw his season ticket at Pardew face, we need more of him.

  • 69 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:03 AM

    doesn’t believe*

  • 70 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:21 AM

    JFA
    Reckon so, can’t see why else!

  • 71 cyprus // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:29 AM

    Won’t jump on anyone’s bandwagon. Though it’s tempting to comment on errors and flawed arguments all round.

    What went wrong? Especially after a very impressive display at Norwich? What changed?

    I guess we must see what changed: Shola for Remy… well, there you go. Shola cannot score, ever, nice lad though he is.

    Taylor with Williamson in back is a dangerous combination, as they are both slow. Have we won with Taylor’s return? don’t remember, but I don’t think so. Remedy: bring on Mbiwa for taylor in the next game, especially as they routinely try to penetrate through the middle.

    On Luuk: I’ll agree with his personal assessment of his debut. It stank. Though he got in good positions, his two shots were even weaker than Shola’s. Can’t he shoot with the left? A wide open field there and he moves into traffic, on the right! PS. What’s up with Cisse? Remember his brace (best in history of football, for any player) against our next opponents?

  • 72 Lu-toon // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:31 AM

    Jail

    As long as people are blind or are not willing to accept that these crooks are all singing from the same hymn sheet, then i am afraid these same downtrodden debates are going to be happening for a long time to come.
    In fact this was really what the Fat Mans 5 Year Plan was truly about., and a lot off us, including myself really did think that there was a 5 Year Plan geared towards success for our club, but thats what us fans do, we live in hope, we dream, we believe. Well no more!
    This mis-guided 5 year plan is really kicking in for him now, he is reaping the benefits. It pains me to say it, but a a good business man will always use other peoples money to maximise his own, and I’m afraid that is what he is doing with how he is running our club. All this free advertising is paying handsomely for SD, and it is no coincidence that his SD has accumulated an incredible amount of shares in other companies off late.
    Now if a lot off us fans cannot smell a rat there, and are willing to let this just rumble on, then I’m afraid we are stuck with this regime for the foreseeable future
    ‘Make No Bones About It’ (c*nts) Our club was bought by the fat man for this reason and this reason alone. A perfect platform for him to propel the expansion of SD. A perfect club for him to exploit, because it is trophyless for near on 50 Years, expectations are not high in the way of winning titles, it gives him more time to promote SD.

  • 73 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:39 AM

    The only plausible and sensible way to respond to his comments is:

    Go fu<ick yourself Kinnear

  • 74 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:52 AM

    ”Judge me by my signings.”

    must be the funniest thing said in history of football.

  • 75 Lu-toon // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:59 AM

    Sueley there must be a protest of some sort. I understand the view of not boycotting the games. You guys who get to St James every other week, as much as i love NUFC, my passion and love for them is not possible to match yours, so it is almost impossible to stay away, but surly there must me the momentum now for a large scale protest against the regime.
    The hardest thing about arranging this, is who bloody starts the thing.
    Please, someone stand up and be counted and get the ball rolling.
    Personally i think it should start with the local media , jesus are they not still banned from NUFC, surely a great platform to start from.
    Mike Ashley and SD are exploiting NUFC on a grand scale, and if the powers to be are not looking into what they are doing, then they need to be forced out.
    It did not take many protest from the bin dippers to force out Hicks & co

  • 76 Marty-Toon // Feb 2, 2014 at 7:59 AM

    Ed is right that the the midfielders were poor yesterday and have been great in recent months.
    The problem being that without Gouffran and Cabaye they aren’t the same set up.
    Ben Arfa plays and many love him,but teams double up on him and he gives us very little in end product because of that.
    Debuchy wants to get forward yet he’s restricted as it’s Ben Arfa on the same wing and not Sissoko,who is good at covering him.
    Sammy while decent isn’t as dangerous as Gouffran,not yet anyhow.
    Terrible showing from the team,no passion.
    Don’t understand changing a left back in the middle of a game,would be better that Haidara or Mbiwa were on from the start.
    Too many weak links to be a threat.
    Cabaye wasn’t just dangerous with his goals and passing but he held the team together on the pitch very often.
    Disgraceful home display in a derby

  • 77 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:03 AM

    My biggest bone about yesterday was the performance thought we had turned a corner playing good football keeping it on the deck passing from the back.

    THEN bring bloody shoulder back and we go back to HOOFBALL to a clown that cannot jump or head the ball- would swop him for Alidore might not score but bloody hell takes some knocking off the ball.

    My summing up of team yesterday

    Krul – pulled ff a couple of good saves but useless in the six yard box does not know whether to come for crosses or stay
    Both full backs were crap Taylor clueless. Poor Mike (the weakest link) Williamson only one in back four that put in a shift covering and tackling for the rest of the clowns at the back.
    Anita – worst game in a TOON shirt.
    Tiote – Instead of keeping it simple ran around like a headless chicken time and time got caught in possession.
    HBA did all right on the ball but to weak and easily got brushed off the ball – led to their third goal and runs into blind allies.
    Sammi – oh dear hopeless no end product dribbles into cul-de-sacs. no end problem does not tackle back – lazy like his dozy brother.
    Sissoko – did ok but got no help from rest of midfield.
    Shola – absolute joke did absolute nothing gave countless fouls away had two shots kid that ran on kicked it harder than he did all day
    De Jong – did ok but match rusty had two shots to shoot but needs to fire the bullets a lot quicker
    Dummett – thought he did well least had a go and got stuck into a couple of tackles more than the rest put together.
    Marvo – showed glimpses of what he can do

    Right – another three points should be safe
    Time to change the team and give some of the fringe players a game.
    back four next week:
    Hiadara, Mbiwa, Williamson, Debuchy
    midfield
    Tiote, Anita, HBA Sissoko and Marvo
    upfont,
    Du Jong or Cisse, Goufron

  • 78 Slank // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:09 AM

    A top team coming in for Cabaye was inevitable and the temptation of PSG, living in Paris and playing in the Champions League in a World Cup year for a 28 year old Frenchman could never ever be matched by Newcastle.

    The club honoured an agreement with him and got a very good deal from PSG. I am sad to see him go but realistically we were never at the races hoping to compete against PSG.

    The really worrying thing is why no replacement was bought. I doubt we could have achieved a like for like replacement as Cabaye was the finished article. The clubs business model is to find young and/or undervalued players and then sell them on for a profit. In this sense it worked with Cabaye but surely there were players out there we could have bought.

    I can understand why the young French lad didn’t want to come and I can sympathise with him having to follow in Cabaye’s shoes with the heightened expectation of the fans hoping for a Cabaye replica which could destroy his confidence if he had a few bad games. I remember how Jon Dahl Tomasson career nosed dived here.

    If the team drop down the league places the reduction in prize money may be greater than the additional amount the club would have had to pay to get a replacement for Cabaye.

    Well it’s down to the others in the team now to keep us within the top ten and hope that the summer transfer window brings some joy.

  • 79 John Tudor // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:12 AM

    how many more crap results are acceptable
    especially against the unwashed

  • 80 Jail for Ashley // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:14 AM

    The biggest crime this window imo was not bringing in DeJong at the start of the window, there was never going to be a Cabaye replacement as Ashley thinks he’s already here, De Jong could have had twenty minutes at WH and another half an hour at Norwich plus the benefit of training with his team mates for a month, the fact that it took the sale of our most valuable asset to fund a loan striker should finally spell it out to those last few supporters that believe Mike Ashley has any plans of success for our club.

  • 81 John Tudor // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:15 AM

    and another thing
    i dont give a shit about finances
    i want my football club ran like it was before
    so what if it goes under it will still come back
    this regime must be terminated

  • 82 Roger // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:15 AM

    What happened on saturday.It was the third defeat against the Mackems in 2 years. And it was the badest.
    Our team never find a way to stop the Mackems.
    Sunderland was the better team. But this is normal.
    When you have a owner who is not willing to do
    anything for this club, for this town, for this region,
    than send him to hell. Look to all the other clubs
    in the premier league in England. There owners
    give millions and millions and hope that the club
    will be in the top 5. Ashley, this Hirni (german for
    not normal) do absolut nothing. Became 24 millions
    for Cabaye and let them go. This player has a contract
    until 2016. Only new player is de Jong. And his first
    steps on the bench are terrible. We all can do anything,
    don`t go to the next home clash against the Spurs.
    If nobody is in the stadium, Asley will accept, that he
    is wrong. And Kinnear he is not worth to speak about
    him, send them to jail.
    Howay the lads.
    Yesterday was a black day for Newcastle and all
    the fans and friends all over the world.
    Roger, German supporter and member.

  • 83 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:22 AM

    slank
    your post brings a bit of sense to the blog – we are all p***ed off with yesterday’s performance and we have improved had some could result but yesterday we fell back into our bad old ways of HOOFBALL not closing down.
    It was a lazy unprofessional couldn’t care less performance.
    I know I get stick for sticking up for the regime but my patience is starting to run thin.
    Hopefully when the season ends we spend some money and get 3 or 4 class players in who show they want to play for NEWCASTLE UNITED.
    We need a couple of strong aggressive hard to knock of the ball get bullied midfield players and a forward and central defender in the same mould. Too many of our are decent ball players but get knocked off the ball bullied to easy.

  • 84 John Tudor // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:25 AM

    charlie there is no chance of expenditure whilst they are in charge, all they want is to strip us of everything, they have in my eyes almost achieved that

  • 85 ash1001 // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:27 AM

    Kinnear was not even there yesterday, as for the program notes – does anyone really think Kinnear wrote them.
    More than likely they were written by Wendy Taylor the clubs press officer, probably without any reference to Kinnear.
    Lies and more lies comes easy to mind on any thing that comes out of St James.

  • 86 John Tudor // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:28 AM

    hey lets all lie im going to the spurs game not

  • 87 Jail for Ashley // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:31 AM

    Slank,
    The big business we had in the summer we went on to finish fifth improved the squad but didn’t strengthen it as every player that came in a player in that position went the other way, last January addressed the problem of being five players short but the good work has been undone as five players have since left, there simply has to be big business in the summer but it will only be replace departing players, how quickly they will settle is a big risk as you can pretty much guarantee they won’t be bringing any PL experience with them.

  • 88 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:32 AM

    John Tudor

    I’ll keep my fingers crossed the purse strings will be loosened.

    Not against Ashley selling up but I am deeply worried he will sell to the highest bidder and that could be anything some one like the owners of Man City
    or
    the Owners of Blackburn
    or worse still
    Coventry City
    who are owned by a hedge fund who could come in and strip the club of all it’s assets sell it on move us to somewhere else.

  • 89 scout // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:34 AM

    I’ve tried to defend Ashley in the past and truly thought he would buy a cabaye replacement. After what’s happened recently it turns out the lads on here were all right about him. Sorry lads, I was gutted yesterday absolutely gutted.
    A Mickey Mouse Sunderland team with a manager that belongs in the championship, I’ve been to loads of Brighton games and believe me the fans down here didn’t give a monkeys when poyet left.
    If Pardew can’t out smart this bloke were bang in trouble

  • 90 scout // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:40 AM

    Also how bad are the ameobi brothers??

  • 91 Magickit // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:46 AM

    We had some much stronger starting and bench 3 or 4 weeks before . I am absolutely dissapointed after a few weeks, our starting and bench looks crap !

    I think if we need to improve constantly. we need to invest and improve our squad around a long term player, say tiote. we need to be cruel to get rid of some players

    Shola – 100% need to be get rid . Absolutely crap.
    Marva , Obertan, Gosling – 95% need to be get rid. Not up to stanard
    HBA – 80 % need to be get rid, under our system, HBA cannot adapt in, selling him around 10m makes win-win situation

    Santon – unless we plays in another position (rather than LB) and get a huge improvement on end product. he should be get rid . He is average in LB and I think it can subbed by a natural left foot LB easily. Sell him to Italy for around 10m

    Sammy – sell him with a package with his elder brother , he is juz not good enough. lazy.

    …. Any more mate ?

  • 92 Lu-toon // Feb 2, 2014 at 8:51 AM

    Sorry, but unbelievable, some guys are still saying, that they hope to bring in a few players of this type or that type.
    Open your eyes guys. Signings if any, will only be loans, or if things are going very bad on the pitch, then emergency buys.
    NUFC is driftwood. NUFC is geared towards expansion of SD
    If it is not plain enough for some to see, then just do a little research and you will see a very worrying trend of how many shares cashless has brought of late, and its all on the back of him promoting SD for free at St James Park.
    A good business man (pains me to say it) will almost always use someone else’s money to expand his own wealth

  • 93 toonaus // Feb 2, 2014 at 9:01 AM

    Let me start off with this quote “Now is the time to look forward, not back. We have a number of highly talented midfielders within our ranks.” The problem with the players we have on the bench is most of them barely get a decent amount of game time and are only brought on 3/4 of the way through a match or start a game when a key player is suspended or injured. It’s not fair to rely on the same players to get you over the line every single time and these poor souls who have to come into the team and try make some sort of a effort to rescue the team or try and fit into a team that is consistently field week after week is hard. In my opinion Hba is one of them players who is week after week wasted and only brought on to change up games he is not use to starting games and can’t be expected to perform miracles. Same deal with shoala he’s not use to starting that often the problem with newcastle is they depend on one or two players to amp the team up.

    On the other side of the fence the owner and director should have brought in more players to strength the squad you can’t rely on the player you have for ever no ever got any where doing the same old thing you need to evolve and build take chances in order to succeed thats why the top teams are where they are today.

  • 94 Malta Mag // Feb 2, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    When someone is appealing for a boycott and yet hasn’t been to a game since 1998 I think that sums up some of the futility on these blogs. I have stood up for Pardew on many occasions on here and have been slaughtered but yesterday he got it totally wrong and seemed that his plan B was simply long balls. I have also compared Ashley to some of his predecessors and viewed him favourably yet this month he got it terribly wrong as he should have spent money on Cabayes replacement. I do not in any shape or form think Joe Kinnear should be anywhere near our club and I have said for 10 years that Shola would struggle to get into my old Sunday league team as he couldn’t kick a door if he was holding onto the handle! I am however open to change my mind and performances like yesterday deserve a reaction. Running onto the field of play or attacking the Mackems is of course out of order but fans must be allowed to vent their frustration. Boycotts however are not the answer and won’t work because I for one support my football club whoever is in charge. Synchronized turning our backs for 1 minute at given times during games would cause a reaction bearing in mind these games are shown worldwide. I also think minutes silence at given times would work too. On the whole though dialogue between the club and the fans has to improve otherwise things will never improve.
    PS just for the record I get over to 1-2 games per season having moved here 18 years ago but watch every game live on TV.

  • 95 north of the border // Feb 2, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    we have talented midfielders coming through ?????name them joe ?? i watch the u21s regularly and see nothing that is close to playing in midfield in the premier league , you are totally clueless,

  • 96 toonluvva // Feb 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM

    I don’t actually believe that A$h£ey would be too
    bothered about fans not renewing season tickets, he has his eyes on TV revenues.

    But if you feel that some sort of protest must be made, may I suggest a mass walk out at half-time of a televised match.

    The whole thing would be transmitted live around the world and would make headlines in the next days press.

    Such would be the interest that the “management” would be asked some very awkward questions that they would rather not answer.

    We all know that A$h£ey is solely interested in portsDirect, if his deficiencies as our owner could be linked to SD he would not like that in the least.

  • 97 Lynxie // Feb 2, 2014 at 5:13 PM

    JFK is the biggest lying Tw*t in the history of football. make no bones about that. ‘Judge me on my signings’? Oh you have been judged alright, MAKE NO BONES ABOUT THAT

  • 98 Lynxie // Feb 2, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    After the sale of cabaye, it was blatantly obvious that certain ‘purple’ players needed to step up to the plate. In view of yesterdays ineptitude, HBA has changed his name to Kieron Dyer. Pathetic gutless impostor, sooner out the door the better, his attitude stinks to high heaven, and he is a luxury we simply cannot afford.

  • 99 padthemag // Feb 2, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    It’s funny that when we were in danger of going down all of a sudden the helmets know the value of a player and how to get them over the line. It probs wouldn’t make too much difference to fat c/(t if thousands boycott financially due to tv money but it would make a massive statement to the rest of the world how we won’t take this clown killing our club, I love the toon like the rest of you but we need to take action because the fact we love our club is the reason he won’t leave like a leech




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