Kinnear – We Didn’t Want Cabaye To Go – It Was The Right Decision


Joe Kinnear said early  in January that no Newcastle player would be leaving the club in the January transfer window, and certainly not Yohan Cabaye.

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Joe Kinnear – we didn’t want to lose Yohan Cabaye
But we did


But we’ve come to realize that you have to take whatever Joe says with a pinch of salt.

And in the program notes for yesterday’s game, which turned out to be yet another disastrous 3-0 defeat at home to Sunderland, the Director of Football tried to defend himself.

This is what Joe said:

“We didn’t want to sell him, make no bones about that.”  “Yohan made it very clear to us that the opportunity of playing Champions League football and being part of the sporting project at PSG was something he wanted.”

“On that basis, we felt that if we received an acceptable bid for him, then it was the right decision for the club to do business.”

“Now is the time to look forward, not back. We have a number of highly talented midfielders within our ranks.”

Joe Kinnear wrote those notes before the game yesterday, and we didn’t see many talented midfielders in the Newcastle side.

Too many Newcastle players again showed they didn’t have the heart to fight too much against a good Sunderland side, who were again seemingly more prepared and ready for this game.

And the game was essentially over after only 23 minutes, after Sunderland had gone 2-0 ahead.

It’s hard to think of a more insipid display by a poor Newcastle side yesterday, who again badly let their fans down.

It was a shameful display – especially in that first half – a disgrace – and we’ll leave it at that.

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99 comments so far

  • Sazzer

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #1

    “Make no bones about that.”

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  • Sazzer

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:04 AM

    Comment #2

    PRdew

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  • Phatoon

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:05 AM

    Comment #3

    Definitely a Pardew phrase.

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  • geordiegav1987

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:06 AM

    Comment #4

    It pains me after 26 years of supporting newcastle utd to say enough is enough.
    I can not keep watching my team play pointless longballs, play players out of position and waste there potential and creative influence, sell our best players and not get in a replacement when they knew all of january he would be going, and continue to use shameobi who as people have allready said wouldnt even make a championship team.
    Mike ashley is a leach sucking the blood from our great club and alan pardew makes decisions and uses tactics that would get a championship manager player fired.
    I think this boycott talk is on the right track and the only way to get ashley out before we become the next leeds.
    I have lived in somerset for 16 years now and havnt had a chance to visit st james since the 97/98 season and I will allways remember how great it was to see newcastle play at home. I will not spend anymore money on newcastle shirts and I hope you fans who have a chance to make the ticket sales decline massivley do so.
    I wont even watch newcastle play anymore after todays display, untill ashley is gone.
    verry sad day for me, newcastle utd is like family to me and today I witnessed a family member die.
    Feck you Mike Ashley for destroying one of the only things I hold dear, I hope someone sh!ts in your cornflakes you fat fecking leach.

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  • geordiegav1987

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:08 AM

    Comment #5

    cant even vent my frustration, my comment isnt being posted for some reason.
    its not like I’m being abusive to mike ashley lol

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  • Belfast

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:09 AM

    Comment #6

    Well spotted Sazzer lol

    Kinnear ghost writing for Pardew it seems.

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  • petey

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:12 AM

    Comment #7

    Is kinnear serious? He has been paid a years salary so far too come in and make singings… So far I count zero permanent signings and yet he is telling us to look “forward” …..

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  • Belfast

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:14 AM

    Comment #8

    Funny how there’s no explanation for not replacing him.

    Time to look forward.

    If today was looking forward, i’m not to keen.

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  • mattnufc

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:14 AM

    Comment #9

    Yes, it probably was the right decision, but not replacing him wasn’t you utter tosspot.

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  • Schwefelberg

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:15 AM

    Comment #10

    Blackley, Enron is a euphemism for lack of transparency and company spin. You chose your pseudo-intellectual take.

    And where was the accusation??

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  • Grumpy

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    Comment #11

    We need some “English” in the mid, someone who knows how play football. Bunch of pansy’s we have now .Like fragging zombies out there.

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  • Thump

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    Comment #12

    We have a number of highly talented midfielders within our ranks.

    And yet none of them can fill the gap.

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  • lesh

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    Comment #13

    Yes Joe, selling Cabs was the right thing to do if he wanted Champions League football.

    But Kinnear should think about answering some questions:

    • Why couldn’t Cabs see the potential for achieving ECL with Newcastle United?

    • How long has Kinnear known of Cab’s ambiton?

    • Was Kinnear oblivious to the likelihood of an offer from PSG at the very least? If so, why?

    • In any event, Cabaye would be away before next window at the very latest – why was there no replacement in place?

    • Why wasn’t Grenier and Cabella’s interest and availability confirmed before wasting time and money on apparently trying to sign them?

    • Why offer terms that were clearly derjsory and. In Grenier’s case, insulting?

    • Why can’t Kinnear persuade Ashley that his assessment of player values is out of kilter with reality?

    • Why persist with the seemingly bi-nnual charade over transfers?

    • Why is the squad being weakened?

    • When will Kinnear acknowledge that the talent we have in already is not good enough to make a reasonable challenge in the Premier League?

    • Why can’t you Kinnear, be honest with your manager, Pardew?

    • When Mr Kinnear are you going to be honest with Ashkey and yourself and admit that you’re not up to tge role of DoF at Newcastle United?

    • When are you going to face the fans as you promised?

    • When are you leaving?

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  • TurkishFan101

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:22 AM

    Comment #14

    Blackley and Brownlie

    “Boycotting games is however a step too far, and comes largely from those who don’t go to games anyway because it doesn’t fit in with the lives they’ve chosen for themselves.”

    Yep, I am a “momma’s” boy got a problem with that you immature idiot? Boycotting games is a step to far?? I recommend every Toon fan to step away and not talk to this guy, clearly he is a gutless idiot or most likely a Mackem. According to this muppet, every fan that wants to protest and boycott games are not the real fans and do not even attend the game. You once again for the 4th time declare a fan that does not attend games is not a real NUFC supporter.

    Get the fu*k out of here you pro bum ashley fan, you would probably get to your knees and take it up from behind if he offered you free tickets and sports direct mug. Disgusting, utter disrespectful pro-claiming that other fans are declared as a “lower” no view no say cause people like you that say “I attend every game, so I rightly know the truth about Ashley and he is taking us the right direction and know better”.

    You would sit on your ass and could not care less if we got relegated as long as your bum buddy Mike Ashley gets all he wants and needs from the likes of you bum chums. I have the guts to reveal what I do in my life and my support for NUFC and wont let people like Mike Ashley ruin the club then it already is and people like you that don’t need to be here rather be Mike Ashley’s toilet paper as he will use you once and flush you down.

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  • Schwefelberg

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:25 AM

    Comment #15

    Great questions Lesh

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  • lesh

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:30 AM

    Comment #16

    TurkishFan101…. Wake up at the back there! Blackley & Brownlie’s voicing an opinion on behalf if those who’ve already spent hundreds of pounds on their tickets. The days of season ticket holders being in the minority are long gone and the casual supporters are in the minority.

    Try attending SJP and before that have a drink with the fans and you’ll be greeted with their assrssment of your assessment.

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  • RonVanDam

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #17

    Its sad cabaye isnt here but 20m plus add ons for a 28 YEAR old who wanted to leave is very good business

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  • RonVanDam

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:34 AM

    Comment #18

    Down side of the deal is we didnt get in a like for like replacement

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  • lesh

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:37 AM

    Comment #19

    CheersSchwefelberg, we try to please.

    It’d be nice if questions of that nature from fans or fabs groups were be published in an open letter to the media – after they’d been submitted via the Fans Forum and ignored.

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  • Ben-Arfa11

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:47 AM

    Comment #20

    hey lads according to well placed sources alan pardew will be gone in the summer and replaced with sean dyche from burnley.

    Makes perfect sense to me as we are a low budget team and sean seems ta really get the best out of players and will bring alot of passion to the team.

    A low profile boss but seems to be heading for big things they dnt call him ginger mourinho for nothing.

    Watch the space

    mite bring danny ings with him we could do with a goalscoring striker.

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  • MrMojoRisin76

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:48 AM

    Comment #21

    Joe’s full of shit,i’ve said today we could have kept Cabaye,all we had to say was”you can go at the end of the season,not now,we need you”,he would not have gone on strike again this close to world cup,but jabba decided to take the money.

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  • nufcusa

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:50 AM

    Comment #22

    Ed is a total wind up merchant who changes more than the weather.

    Slating a group of midfielders for a bad performance when in recent weeks he has waxed lyrical about how good these same players are.

    Sometimes you have to accept that a team plays badly, even when it is against your biggest rivals.

    Info not think for one second that we have a midfielder to replace cabaye but to now turn on sissoko, tiote and Anita while he has praised enormously in the last 8 weeks is bollocks

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  • Unbelievable Tekkers

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:51 AM

    Comment #23

    Ben Arfa 11

    Where did you hear that? If Pardew managed to survive last summer when we almost got relegated then he will definitely survive this summer.

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  • nufcusa

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:54 AM

    Comment #24

    It is the fickle nature of people on this board that pisses me off. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but at least keep it consistent. Be a realist or a fantasist. Be an optimist or a pessimist . You can float between them when a result is good or bad.

    Same way you can’t claim “I’m never going back” or “I’ve list faith” and as soon as a new messiah comes in claim that you have never been away

    Either support the team or f**k off.

    If my bosses had no ambition to grow our company into a leading brand and be the best we could be what would my motivation be to work hard? That is what nufc have done. Taking away the passion of players cos we do not want them to succeed.

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  • Schwefelberg

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:05 AM

    Comment #25

    Blackley you went quiet.

    Trouble to find my accusation Ashley trousered money?

    If you want to play the blog know-it-all, you need to get your facts straight.

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  • Ben-Arfa11

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:07 AM

    Comment #26

    from what i gathered there is costant unrest with the current playing squad and there starting to lose faith in pardews tactics and choices of who starts.

    1 thing i do know is that marveaux has been to the root of the unrest players like tiote and cisse arnt happy and himself isnt happy the final blow was when he wasnt on the bench for the cardiff game in fa.cup that explains why he finally played some part in the defeat yesterday due to players forcing his hand.

    I can see where the players are coming from when you a talented pacy player in your squad and you cant even make the team ahead of obertan it makes you question everything players also werent hapi when colo replaced mbiwa just like that.lots of frustration in camp which the 1 thing pardew did have was the gud spirit at the club now thats deterioting, i have it on good grounds that sean dyche will take over in the summer and im pleasantly happy bout dis im impressed how he sold there goalmachine austin yet kept it together,they are a v.determined hard working side if he brings that to club we al be hapi but i also tink he has dat touch of quailty to bring us sum sxi footbal to if he had better players to work with.

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  • nufcusa

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:12 AM

    Comment #27

    Ben Arfa

    Your statements have some mileage. Haidara has played as a replacemt for santon in recent weeks yet today dummett comes on – why?

    Marv has not kicked a ball in months. Hung out to dry today. Will probably start at Chelsea, we will get stuffed and the poor guy will never be seen again.

    I’m not saying he is the answer but Christ, give lads a chance and keep them hungry to play. Give them a hope they might get more than 10 minutes in 5 months

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  • Blofal

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:13 AM

    Comment #28

    Everybody knew Cabaye was going to go.

    Contingency plans should have been laid out 6 months ago for his replacement. replacing him in this window or the previous one is just bad management.

    We should not have been left at the mercy of greedy agents, players and clubs with just a few days in the window left. A replacement should have been locked in before he left.

    JFK and Ashley… f@ck it im just wasting my breath.

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  • usmagpie

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:25 AM

    Comment #29

    Honestly, Really, Ambition, Business, Quality, Thankfulness, Deserving, Leadership, accountability.
    All things needed Mr.JFK and sadly you have none of these qualities. What a #u@k-ing joke this guy is and of course the puppet master. M.A ( Minor Ambition ) ( Money Always ) ( Major A-hole ) I could go on all night.

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  • Thump

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:29 AM

    Comment #30

    @lesh (12): Brilliant post.

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  • Ben-Arfa11

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:39 AM

    Comment #31

    yes usa ur rite. I tink pardew and our board are reali confusing.

    The saddening thing is we trade like a league 2 club.

    When we sell our best player to fund a loan signing then you know theres trouble brewing.

    Our next season strike paternship wil be campbell and armstrong. I dnt know to much bout armstrong but campbell couldnt even make it at carisle what does dat say?

    Our big new signing will be shola ameobi on new 8 year contract.

    I remember the team under sir bobby we went 1 day to sunderland and won it with a dabizas header and we went top of the table so much passion and joy.

    Oliver bernard and laurent robert solano on the right and shearer knocking balls down to bellamy.

    Best memorys ever.

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  • Ben-Arfa11

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:46 AM

    Comment #32

    tim krul gk
    debuchy rb
    woodgate cb
    colocinni cb
    bernard lb
    solano rm
    tiote cm
    cabaye cm
    robert lm
    shearer cf
    bellamy cf

    mouthwatering.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:50 AM

    Comment #33

    It was disgusting that Ashley and the fat joke already made up their mind 6 months ago that Cabaye will not be replaced.

    They knew at they let it happen. I’m curious to see how many fools go ahead and buy season ticket for next season after their hard earned money of season ticket for the current season is sitting nicely in Ashley’s pocket.

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  • lesh

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:54 AM

    Comment #34

    Cheers Thump but it’s (12) not so brilliant. Just an idea that may in principle be a useful tactic for those who are unhappy with Ashley’s stewardship of Newcastle United.

    The fans groups that attend the forum might consider a real attempt at encouraging constructive dialogue with the club, partnership, cooperation in a non-confrontational manner. Doing that should, if handled properly, absolve them.of any criticism.

    Then, if that doesn’t work, raise the concerns that have been raised with the club hut remain unanswered in the form of an open letter in the press.

    But one would hope that things do not need to go that far – it’s down to the fans’ representatives to make sure that dialogue remains constructive throughout.

    Just a thought

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  • Ben-Arfa11

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:55 AM

    Comment #35

    ilovetoon? Why wouldnt people buy a seasonticket?

    You talk about not filling ashleys pockets but dats not important your buying a ticket to see a football match played against 2 very good teams.your ticket is for you to enter a fantastic stadium and watch the team you support with pride whatever ashley does it shouldnt stop you supporting your team.

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  • Ben-Arfa11

    Feb 2, 2014 at 2:59 AM

    Comment #36

    it be a different thing of course if you give ashley money every week to put to transfers and he aint doing it.

    You buy a ticket aint for transfers u buy a ticket to sit on a seat and enjoy a football matches of course sumtimes it doesnt go the way u planned like ur team loses etc.

    Same reason you buy a ticket for the movies to enjoy the film u picked not for them ta invest in bigger screens etc.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Feb 2, 2014 at 3:06 AM

    Comment #37

    @Ben-Arfa11 // Feb 2, 2014 at 2:55 AM

    Your analogy of watching a movie in hope of bigger screen is laughable. Find another one to suit your argument.

    Anyway, if you truly support the club, we want the best for Newcastle. Budgets for transfers and all, is through big money received from season tickets. It all contributes to the finance.

    What we want to do, is to squeeze him further to get him out of the club. The fans living there should see the bigger picture and do what it takes to get him out and send a message across. The best way is to boycott the games, and don’t buy the season tickets. Let him know, he’s not wanted.

    Fans pay to watch the team and want their team to do well. Taking hard earned season ticket money and not signing a single player to improve our team, is stealing. Its downright theft from fans as far as i see it. And Ashley is robbing them. Period.

    Are you gonna happily buy season ticket if the fat joke goes out and loan a couple of wee players while we offload our best players??

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  • Ben-Arfa11

    Feb 2, 2014 at 3:06 AM

    Comment #38

    if the tickets are unreasonable then u shuldnt buy 1

    but if the ticket price is fair why would it bother you where the money is going as long as u got what u payed for and dats sit on a seat and watch ur team play

    i would complain if our players were school kids

    but we have lots of international players in our team it be worth the entrance fee alone if ben arfa scored a great goal again and if ur team dnt do wel u cud always watch the slick oppostion players like suarez aguero etc.

    U get what u pay thats for sure boycotting matches wnt change anyting he wil stil be here til he wants to go.

    Yes he is a cancer no doubt but we are newcastle and we be rid of him 1 day

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  • beermonkey

    Feb 2, 2014 at 3:15 AM

    Comment #39

    ben arfa

    is this not a rumour born out of wishfull thinking
    any journo could claim there is unrest in the team
    and the way pards has run the team u could claim its true
    I hope it is, I would rather a british manager than a foreigner but I know nothing of the bloke u speak but have danny inges,

    I see woodgate in ur list that has to go down as the best bit of business ever sold to Madrid injured for ?? cant remember better than 35 for carol

    shame he never regained it as player was a shame

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  • Ben-Arfa11

    Feb 2, 2014 at 3:16 AM

    Comment #40

    maybe 10 years ago boycotting matches wud get rid but not now tv money is way more than gate receipts he wnt care al he do is sell a player off for 10 million to make up a loss

    so if u want krul or tiote sold then continue ur little boycott cause if loses money then he only sell more of our players.

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