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Mike Ashley’s New Five Year Plan For Newcastle

2:23 pm, Monday, February 3rd, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 272 Comments

Newcastle fans are rightly upset, dispirited and angry at the latest events taking place at Newcastle, with Yohan Cabaye sold last week and not replaced, and then we equaled a 91 year old record by losing for the third time in a row to Sunderland, and it was another 3-0 hammering by the Black Cats, who were 4th bottom before the game.

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Mike Ashley – new (fictional) five-year plan

Maybe it would be a good time right now for Ashley to make public his new five-year plan for the club.

The last one was eon track in the summer of 2012, when we finished 5th in the league and qualified for Europe, and that was even after we had been relegated after that disastrous September in 2008, when Dennis Wise brought in some players without Kevin Keegan even knowing about it.

Maybe if Mike brought out this new five-year plan he may get some support from the plans for a change.

Here’s what we’d like to hear from Mike Ashley as his new five year plan, and I thought this up this morning when I took my dog Milo for his hour long walk.

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  • Our number one aim in this new five year plan is to once again become a top four club in England, but we will need a little time to get there – but we have nevertheless put this new plan in place.
  • This season we want to finish in the top eight – next year in the top six, and then by the summer of 2016 we want to qualify for the Champions League – that will now be our main focus as to how we do all our business – to make Newcastle United once more into a top four club.
  • We also think this will be a very good message to new players coming into the club, and the players already at the club, and will help us keep the good players we already have, as well as attract  top new players, who we realize want to play in the Champions League.
  • As a start to this plan the fans will see new players coming in over the summer months, and while we didn’t manage to get anybody over the line last month – Joe Kinnear is busy trying to get our targets signed up, and as we sign these players to pre-contract agreements – with the deals starting on July 1st this year – we will announce the players who are coming into the club, as we get them to sign the pre-contract agreements, and that’s after we have agreed a fee with their club and the wages with the players.
  • As you may know, we will be getting increased revenues from the Premier League over the next three years, and if we finish in the top ten in May that amount from the Premier League should be sizable, and may be even double what we got last year, and of course we received  a good fee for Yohan Cabaye.
    We want Newcastle fans to know that any profits we make as a club will now be directly invested back into the club, and will be used principally to buy new players, but also in building up our Youth Academy and Scouting Network under Chief Scout Graham Carr.
  • We also intend to continually improve the facilities at Darsley Park and at St. James’ Park so that Newcastle will have some of the best facilities of any football club in Europe – which is fitting because of  our great history.
  • And we know there has been some concern that we have Sports Direct signs at St. James’ Park, and we have taken a new direction on that.
    Starting in the next financial year (July 1st this year), Sports Direct will pay Newcastle United the going rate for those adverts, which we estimate at £10M per year, although our longer term direction is to replace these over time with new advertisers – as we fully realize we must greatly increase the commercial revenues of the club.
  • We have been a little disappointed with the attendances at Newcastle this season, and want to ensure we keep getting sell-outs for all our home Premier League games, and as you know we have provided excellent prices to  fans for their season tickets, and even though that has reduced our match-day revenues – we will continue with that.
    And once we start to get sell-out crowds again at the club, we will look seriously at expanding the capacity  of St. James’ Park by around 8,000,  so the overall attendance at the club will be increased to 60,000, and that will help with our match-day revenues.
  • I understand there is some frustration that I never speak to the fans.
    Alan Pardew is the official spokesman for the club, and Joe Kinnear writes notes for the program of every home game. I have decided to write notes in one of the home programs at the beginning of each quarter, beginning on April 1st, and I will inform the fans of what we are doing, why we are doing it and the progress we have made – and by this means fans will be better able to understand what we are trying to do to make Newcastle a great club again.
  • We need the fans to understand that I only have their best interests at heart,  and I am now committed to making Newcastle United a top four club in England as the new major thrust of the club. We were a top four club  when Kevin Keegan was the manager in the 1990s and when Sir Bobby Robson was managing the club over 10 years ago – and there’s no reason we cannot be a top four club again.
  • And one last point – as well as prioritizing the Premier League we also respect the FA Cup and the League Cup, now called the Capital One Cup,  and those Cups will be major push from now on for our club – so we can end that poor record of not having won a trophy since 1969 when we won the Inter Cities Fairs Cup under captain Bob Moncur, who is now an ambassador of our club.
    Before his five-year plan is up we want to win one of those Cups, and that’s another important goal for the club.

We should stress the above is fictional – however we think if Mike Ashley would commit to some of the above – especially in the major goal of becoming a top four club again in England – he would  get support from fans, which he’s never really had.

He’d get our support.

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272 responses so far ↓

  • 1 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM

    There you go!
    Ed’s Magpie Carta.

  • 2 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    ciaran

    you see though that is my point ,

    we could replace a manager now and play better football, this short term could be 7 more years , and I carnt take that,

    I could live with someone buying the players , and selling them, leaving the manager to pick from what he has,

    you will never see me in here saying if we sign this player we could do this, it’s all ifs and buts, the manager can only work with what he has, and I think that what we have right now can do way better than we are,

    there are many battles ahead , tackle them all,

    and can I say , I’m not interested in finances, I’m not interested in how much any player is worth, I want to watch good football , we don’t need messi or Ronaldo to play good football, just a good plan

  • 3 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    The five year plan is simple – Retain our Premier League place while spending as little as possible and running at the overall lowest cost point possible.

    Trophies?
    Champions League?

    Pah!!!!!!!!

    Not even in his thinking

  • 4 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    Ed
    I get the feeling you wrote that in blood,then typed it out.

  • 5 usmagpie // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    Another 5 year plan???? Isn’t there still 3 years left on the old 5 year plan. The plan is not that complicated, build a squad that can handle the league and cup competitions and then retain the services of our best players and stop selling them for a profit without replacements. Surely that’s it RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

  • 6 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    mojo hooooop kisser

  • 7 the fan // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    The most inportant person at a football club is the manager and we need a one now.

  • 8 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    Catchy

    I understand how you feel, I really do. Picture the hatred you have your Pardew, but change Pardew to Ashley and you’d understand how I feel.

    I don’t want Pardew as our manager, and would love to see a more ambitious, driven, continental manager who could get more out of our players, but imagine that manager came in, got us up to 5th/6th? Ashley would undermine him the same way he undermined Pardew.

    I ask you again, what would be the point but for seeing slightly better football on a really short term basis?

  • 9 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    Carchy
    Is that a Norwegian manager you want to take over Pards?,never heard of him.

  • 10 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    Catchy

    A genuine question for you.

    Who would you want to replace Pardew as our manager is he is sacked???

  • 11 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    *if he is sacked*

  • 12 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    People have been crying out for a clear, reasonable mission statement from the fans’ groups.
    Ed has made a start.
    King John wasn’t very keen on the idea of the Magna Carta either.
    But people didn’t mutter and moan about how it couldn’t possibly work.
    These are reasonable points I’d like to see taken up, and not scoffed at from the start because they seem unlikely to be accepted.
    “Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery.
    “None but ourselves can free our minds.”

  • 13 Naz M // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    Get lost Ashley

  • 14 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    *for Pardew

  • 15 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    “I’ve no fear for atomic energy,cause none of them can stop the time”

  • 16 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    Thanks Mojo :)

  • 17 toonluvva // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    ED,

    many fans would share your ambitions, but A$h£ey is not at all on the same wavelength.

    All his actions, whether in his appointments or the inaction in the transfer windows merely highlight this.

    A$h£ey is reported to be “furious” with Pardew over the SAFC match. He couldn’t actually care if we won or lost, what annoys him is that he getting more negative press questioning what he is doing.

    A$h£ey has a new 5 year plan? It probably involves maintaining a mid-table position. Selling off players as soon as a reasonable offer comes in, ignoring any impact it might have on the team. Pardew’s contract will run down another 5 years, and Kinnear will, well act just like Kinnear has always done. Namely nothing.

    The crowds will drop, possibly below 30k. But he will still be getting huge sums for promoting SportsDirect.

    New 5 Year plan, I’ll believe it when I see it.

  • 18 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    Not a mission statement from T4C (harder to draft a mission statement for a coalition…just ask the current government) but this is what I found on MAOC facebook page.

    —————————————————————————

    WHAT SIDE ARE YOU ON?

    “The day Mike Ashley leaves Newcastle will be a good day for the fans” (Kevin Keegan)

    Since Mike Ashley took over NUFC in 2007 these are the undeniable truths;

    • 1 Relegation
    • The humiliation of 2 club legends
    • The unexplained sacking of Chris Hughton
    • The continued sale of our best players
    • A complete disregard for the fans, the club and the city by proven liars
    • Bottom of the Premier League in team investment since 2007
    The re-naming of our home ground to advertise his own brand.
    The denigration of the club name by association with morally dubious sponsors.
    Continued offensive insults and threats from Ashley appointed employees towards fans.
    The resurrection of footballing dinosaur, Joe Kinnear, to his second role at the club

    The club is totally unambitious, in decline and our future is being gambled away.

    St James’s Park has become an advertising hoarding for Sports Direct and the club is being consumed into Ashley’s Profit-Making Empire.

    Ashley and his cohorts are a CANCER at this club and MUST BE STOPPED!

    What can we do about it?

    Money talks! The fans have to stop feeding the Monster!

    To start our campaign we propose;

    • A total and sustained boycott of all club shops – no strips, scarves, or other merchandise.
    • A total and sustained boycott of the place formerly known as Shearer’s Bar.
    • A total and sustained boycott of all in-ground refreshments – pies, pints, bovrils etc.
    • A total and sustained boycott of all Sports Direct Stores across the North East (including his brands and subsidiaries)
    • A continued vocal demonstration inside and outside the ground, both before and after matches

    WE, THE FANS, HOLD THE POWER TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE. UNITED, WE CAN DO IT!

    If you want to find out more then join The Mike Ashley Out Campaign (M.A.O.C.) E-Mail maoc@hotmail.co.uk or facebook MAOC

  • 19 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    BandB
    “How long must they kill our prophets while we stand aside and look?”

  • 20 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    Or profits?

  • 21 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:43 PM

    Mojo,

    I can’t see many profits for the chop around here, can you?

  • 22 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:43 PM

    On form today Mojo :P

  • 23 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    BandB
    Not from where i am sitting,but Jabba can be pretty creative.

  • 24 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    “All it takes for evil to succeed is for a few good men to do nothing…”

    ? Edmund Burke

  • 25 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    previous thread
    at least 4 or 5

    To honest/hopefully I think things will change in the summer.

    I think Ashley got a shock on Saturday on how bad we were and lack of players to come
    Does not like to back a loser

    Maybe change quicker than you/I expect

    Club on a sound footing money to spend and it is cash we pay usually not a bit hear a bit there.

  • 26 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    Ciaran
    Cheers dude.

  • 27 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    Ciaran,

    What I like about Ed’s, in comparison, is that it focuses on the future, and not past grievances.
    It also sets a challenge to be met through a set of aims, which can be negotiated in tandem with more direct action if need be.
    A carrot, to go with the stick?
    If he says no, or says nothing, his intentions would be clearer.

  • 28 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    JB,

    Now there ARE a few Burke’s for the chop around here.

  • 29 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    BandB

    “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

    - Albert Einstein

    That quote applies directly to the fans if anyone is still left with a single thought that things will ever change under Ashley and co.

    If we don’t take a stand now!!!……………..well, we deserve everything we get from him as we will effectively be giving him carte blanche

  • 30 ErnestHemingway // Feb 3, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    JackButler

    I don’t know whos quote it is but I can’t take the credit for it. It’s a quote that is very apt, not just to the situation at nufc, but to many situations all over the world.

  • 31 spitfire_ // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Only watching this self-righteous pr!ck on the picture I want to hit him with the shovel right through his face.

  • 32 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    Ciaran @18

    Personally I think we have to go that one step further now.

    Boycotting his SD shops, Number 9 bar or the SJP refreshments stands will have little to no effect on Ashley.

    We need to boycott games en mass as it has come to the point where we need to generate massive media attention to our discontent at what he is doing.

    An empty SJP will hit him harder than any other form of boycott

  • 33 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    JB

    “If he says no, or says nothing, his intentions would be clearer.”

    At present, many claim the case against him is unproven.

    Until he is put on the spot, and fails to provide answers, there is no case. Has he been properly put on the spot?

    I see the same squabbles happening again and again day in and day out. “Shola should be dropped!” “No he shouldn’t!” “Yes he should!”

    Since when have I been a dupe?

    I don’t want to be part of a muttering, surly mob, gathering and dispersing.

    I want progress. I want change. In whichever way it can be brought about. And that will involve being canny.

  • 34 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    ErnestHemingway

    It’s from Edmund Burke, don’t know where the question mark came from???

  • 35 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    What trophys?? What plan??

    Buy players who are cheap and are potentially worth way more than purchased. Keep Pardew, who doesn’t moan and will tow the line. Sell players as soon as big money is possible. And run the club at the lowest cost while promoting SD throughout the entire stadium.

    Finishing above mid table or getting into Europa is unfortunate and purely coincidental. Avoiding relegation is priority.

  • 36 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    BandB

    you will never get him in the position to put him on the spot though, the guy has never come out and spoken to us, he’s someone who simply doesn’t give a damn about us, this club or the community as a whole.

    As long as people continue to sit back and offer the odd chant here and there, nothing will change. We are said to be the best fans a club could have……………..well its about time we proved that by coming together and ousting this man for the good of everyone

  • 37 antspants // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:11 PM

    Im not a Pardew fan but I am starting to feel sorry for him, he is constantly having to answer questions that he is not truthfully allowed to answer and is taking the flack for signings (or lack of) that are out of his control.
    At 28 the Cabaye sale made sense but only if a suitable replacement was in line. According to Cabaye the club new he was off but nothing was done.
    If Pardew was to be sacked who would honestly want the position ?
    There is not one manager with any credibility that would want the position of being the front man of our club>
    No funds for transfers and continually being hung out to dry !!!

  • 38 magicbus // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    Yr 1 finish 17th
    Yr 2 finish 17th
    Yr 3 finish 17th
    Yr 4 finish 17th
    Yr 5 finish 17th

    There you have the next 5 year plan because Premier League tv revenue is the be all and end all in this cretins world.

  • 39 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    Last season we finished 16th. Luuk nor Remy will be back and guaranteed neither will want to sign for us.

    Cardiff and the rest smaller teams have signficantly strengthened and will continue to do so in the summer.

    While 2 seasons ago our summer we bought 1 freaking player in Anita. I have no confidence whatsoever of us signing anybody at all in the summer. I expect another couple of loan forwards to get us through next season and more outgoings than incomings.

    What a way to run the club.. b*stard.

  • 40 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Ashley is underestimating the clubs around us. The relegation favorites. Next season another 0 signings and we as well be the favorites for the drop.

  • 41 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    I think people are misunderstanding the thrust of Ed’s point.

    These are the answers many of us demand to hear from him.

    Ed is not saying he believes this is what Ashley actually thinks.

    This, to me, forms the beginnings of a manifesto we could put to him. Soon.

  • 42 LocalZero // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Ed
    I think that’s a decent start. It’s constructive and surely you’d be hard pushed to find many people who disagree with the content of it. It’s also something that all NUFC fans could get behind, unlike a boycott apparently. It could then be the focus of future protests, petitions, sit-ins etc. If that doesn’t work and MA continues to ignore the fans, maintaining the silence and not investing during the summer (when NUFC will make its first serious profits in years), then I will join the MA Out Campaign.

  • 43 antspants // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    An earlier post showed us all of the players that will be on their way at the end of the season (12 I think),
    Fatty will not even buy one midfielder in Jan.
    What real hope do we have?

  • 44 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    BandB

    surely if it is presented to Ashley, it should be called a ‘Manifatso’ :D

  • 45 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    BandB

    I understand where you are coming from. There are a number of meetings that I will be attending this week and I will put forward your idea of a manifesto/mission statement that focuses on aims of the future rather than past grievances and see where we can take that. Personally I agree with you, we may be able to convince the MAOC crowd to put that into action, but getting a mission statement for a coalition on which all of the groups involved agree upon is very difficult but I will put the point across.

  • 46 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    JB,

    But he doesn’t HAVE to come out for a little chat!

    Issue an open and public challenge to him to address these points. They are not unreasonable.

    Pardew and his press officer gave a string of “no comment” answers on Saturday. No comment is the worst possible answer, as I have explained to many a shady press officer in my time.

    But they do it. And they get slaughtered.

    What is the point of preaching to the converted? People need to BELIEVE that their hopes and dreams are being trampled on before voices in the wilderness become a movement that can’t be ignored.

  • 47 lesh // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    usmagpie….. Did you read Ed’s blog in full?

  • 48 Slank // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    Ed, good start on a five year plan. However……..

    Was there a five year plan under Shepherd?

    Have any of the other Premiership clubs published their five year plans?

  • 49 jimBOB // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    I would love to see this man out of Newcastle but it just isnt gonna happen anytime soon, we as fans have no barring on him or his billions in the bank

    I would take fans not turning up but I just cant see that happening, we live for the weekend, we live for NUFC, regardless of who is running it we will always support it. thats what geordies are good at – loving their club.

    I would love to see all the Fans just stand on the pitch after every game and try to be moved. make a point and get some media coverage on it.

  • 50 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    BandB

    I understand where you are coming from, but if people still don’t believe that Ashley is trampling on our dreams then him refusing to come out and answer questions will not change their minds.

  • 51 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    BandB

    The same accusation has been thrown at those who claim that Ashley wants CL football. I’ve replied to that by saying

    “How do you know he wants CL football? He has never stated he does” – but it works both ways.

    In the first Fans Forum we saw an uncharacteristic slip up from Ashley’s cronies Messrs Irving and Charnley when they freely admitted that we are not interested in the cups due to their lack of financial viability.

    If we could eke out a similar slip up which admits he is only interested in taking this club for all its worth, then we’d have a proper groundswell of revolutionary fervour to come at him with.

  • 52 antspants // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    Pardew has no other option than NO COMMENT,
    If he tells us how we know it is he gets the sack and no other potential employers will touch him due to him rocking the boat and being a trouble maker. He is gradually answering some questions with the sarcasm that they deserve with all of us knowing exactly what is going on behind the scenes.

  • 53 lesh // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    B&B…… You’re obviously recognises that wisdom comes with age.

    Ciaran, take note of B&B’s post. Be business-like and tge revolution you’re seeking will come in time!

  • 54 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    Ciaran //

    I think I would still change the manager short term, because that short term manager could turn out to be a decent manager

  • 55 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    Lesh

    I assure you, her comments have been duly noted. Nothing but the utmost respect for BandB.

  • 56 LocalZero // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    Slank @ 48
    Sir John Hall memorably had a 5 year plan and more or less achieved it. Seems like a constructive way forward and a bit more conciliatory (ie more likely to get results) than people chanting “fat Cockney Ba**ard”.

  • 57 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    Catchy

    Decent managers do not work in this environment – and if they do it is for a short while until they will take no more and be done with it. Keegan demonstrated how a principled manager would operate under Ashley insofar as a principled manager cannot work under Ashley.

    If we sacked Pardew and hired a talented young driven manager, then perhaps for a season or two we would be doing well. But when that manager has proven himself under the choke-hold of Ashley’s tyranny he will be off to pastures new and we would have to begin the whole managerial merry-go-round once more.

    We are better off going for Ashley with all our might and take them all down in one fell swoop.

  • 58 toon kk // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Nufc isn’t a proper club anymore. Idiots pay mash there hard earned cash then complain, stange really.
    I have to give MA a pat on the back he doing just fine. He has a great business.
    If people want him out Keep away. Simple really!

  • 59 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    We’ve already had most of the current 5 year plan and it’s a bigger cock-up than Tony Blairs Iraq plan!

  • 60 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Ciaran,

    The example you quote is a very good one, of how a precise question drew an answer that created ructions and opened a few eyes.
    It came though, at a time when it wasn’t going to register with a lot of quite happy campers.
    As I am trying to say to JB. You don’t need to take the wall down brick by brick. Keep chipping in places they don’t want you to chip. The edifice isn’t, in my view, as impressive as it looks and they have set themselves some hellish problems in the summer.

  • 61 Slank // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    LocalZero

    Many thanks.

  • 62 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Catchy

    When will you get away from changing Pardew will change our lot?

    I’m not a fan of Pardew but I still understand that the man has his hands tied and is fighting an uphill battle week in, week out.

    The problems we are facing go way beyond those of the manager and you fail to realise that the man you want out was given his eight year deal by the same man that would bring in his replacement.

    Sacking Pardew would only see the like’s of Kinnear, Curbishly or Hartford taking charge and things would only get worse under them

  • 63 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Ciaran

    I haven’t closely followed your views through their various stages of development. However, I see recurring abusive comments on here from certain bloggers (I’m not saying from you). If we don’t boycott, we’re called idiots and we don’t have the interests of the club at heart.

    You say, “Previously I had strong views on boycotting, but that was before I moved to the area and before I spoke to fans about what it meant to them.” This makes my point for me. I respect everybody’s opinion, but I give more value to those who actually understand the area and who go to games regularly; or have done so and will do so again when Mikey has gone.

    And when it comes to different classes of supporter and their views on performances, I respect everyone’s opinion, but I value more the opinion of a spectator than of a TV viewer, which I am myself sometimes.

  • 64 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Ciaran most young managers would give their eye teeth to manage our team.

  • 65 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:39 PM

    JackButler

    id jump at the chance to replace pardew

    and here is why

    that squad, if there was ever a squad that was so under achieving its ours right now
    I honestly believe that regardless of being undermined by the owner, you should e in a win win situation where you can not loose
    I believe pardew is in a win win situation right now, but chooses to be a patsy,
    he could walk out of here today, go to court , and win his contract paid up in full for the next 6 years,
    he would walk into another prem job, because on the face of it , it looks like he is doing a good job.

    pardew chooses to be the victim and never the hero

    so yes if it were me, thinking only of me, id jump at this job, because if you do well, you will get other jobs in the prem out of it

  • 66 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    Everyone was saying it was the players that were the problem at Sunderland .

    Look what Poyest has done.

  • 67 LocalZero // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    mag
    Ha! Yeah, the current one hasn’t been going so well….
    But the alternative is no plan and nobody can sign a petition for MA to take that on board. Even if he wants to sell, it isn’t going to happen any time soon and god knows who he’d sell to.

  • 68 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    catchy

    you are speaking on the grounds that Ashley would replace Pardew with some young up and coming manager or with someone more established than Pardew, when everything that he has done proves that he hires from his list of friends and people he trusts.

    The list of manager that would be willing to come here would be a long one, but it would not be a list that Ashley would select Pardew’s replacement from.

    And that’s the biggest point here and the biggest failing in sacking Pardew, as it’s not who would come here, it’s who Ashley would want to come here

  • 69 Slank // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    I’m curious.

    Is all this anger because we lost to Sunderland or is it something else?

  • 70 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    JackButler

    how are his hands tied ???

    now I understand things are going on way above him,

    but get some facts straight,

    MIKE ASHLEY OR JFK DO NOT PICK SHOLA TO PLAY LONG BALL FOOTBALL TO,

    this is pardew, shooting from distance, that is pardew, leaving marv and plenty of other talented players out of the team for the likes of perch, obertan, , this is all pardew, his subs, there all his doing, the free kicks the corners to Williamson, that’s all pardew,,

    please tell me what Ashley has to do with any of them

    ashley has bigger questions to answer, like why no players ,

    but pardew has as many questions to answer regarding the job he should be doing with what he has

  • 71 Tsunki // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    Ed – newcatsle? Ha ha that spellchecker gets used less than john mccriricks barber.

    Someone must have used CL as a reason for Cabaye to come to the club in the first place. But who? If it was Ashley, then his training staff have let him down, and he needs help bin hiring the right personnel. If JFK Is supposed to be that help then he is more lo etc than I thought.

    If it was Pardew that promised CL, then he overstepped his remit and is paying the price for not singing the words on the company hymn sheet.

    Either way the left and right hand aren’t connected. I think the setup is more dysfunctional than calculated on the football side.

  • 72 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:49 PM

    catchy

    I’m not arguing that Pardew isn’t the best manager we could have as yes he has his failings, but you are missing the point, you want rid of him but who do you think Ashley would bring in?

  • 73 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    JackButler

    that’s a question we will not know the answer to until it happens
    but im will to take a chance on someone other than pardew right now

    I really don’t give 2 hoots about stability, that’s a word banded about to get long contracts, as is 5 year plans, it only takes months to see what someone has in them, poyet just proved that,

  • 74 Tsunki // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    Catchy has a point about us playing with everyone behind the ball. Pardew thinks it’s cautious but in reality it is inviting for opposing teams. You can’t have your attacking line constantly on the back foot for defending because they will never be truly committed to their task, and as we have seen they produce very little beyond wayward shots from distance.

    Sitting back invites the opposition to come at you in waves, and it’s only a matter of time before they work out how to crack the nut.

    There must be dvd’s in every training room of Pardew’s defensive tactic, even poor teams like the mackems have us down before we even kick a ball. If our bad run continues and we start to slide, Alan will go into job save mode and it will get even worse.

  • 75 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    JackButler

    there is 20 teams in the prem,

    pardew is bottom in my book, pulis sam hughes bruce are all poor managers
    but imo they all have a system that they work to, pardew needs wonder goals to dig him out to many time

  • 76 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    catchy

    If I honestly thought that sacking Pardew would see us have a better manager then I’d be screaming from the roof tops for him to be sacked – but two points you need to remember

    1 – No way Ashley will sack him
    2 – A replacement would not be a forward step it most likely be a backwards step

  • 77 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    Who cares if Pardew is a crawler most managers are,no its his limited coaching skills and general uselessness that concerns most supporters, his inability to get the best out of his team. Cisse and Sissoko are prime examples one a scorer of sublime goals the other a box to box midfield powerhouse yet under this joker both look like shells of their former selves.

  • 78 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:59 PM

    Tsunki

    exactly

    even in our good spell v Norwich the other day, we looked good because HBA ran at them from deep, but he had little support
    2 of our best attackers are debuchy and santon, (trying to attack) this is great if your playing 352 with wing backs and have 3 CB but sending them up leaves us exposed evey single time,,

    I know im not the only one that sees this

  • 79 hadthetshirt // Feb 3, 2014 at 3:59 PM

    We could have a Jolly Boys outing to his local,
    Wonder if they do Karaoke :)

  • 80 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    JB

    so lest say pardew is pushed, ( which I think he is being)

    then what??? nobody steve stone . carver????

    this big problem is Ashley, but please remember it was DL that was AP friend, not ashly,
    DL got fired and since then communication and transfers have been closed off

    right now we are in the middle of a Mexican stand off

  • 81 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:08 PM

    catchy

    Llambias resigned because of the appointment of Kinnear he was not sacked and why would Ashley push Pardew out?

    He’s hitting all his target for the club, we are top ten and look to be all but safe from the threat of relegation. He does as he’s told, is the lowest paid manager in the league with bonuses filling out any payments, he doesn’t speak up publicly about the sale of players, doesn’t kick up a fuss at no arrivals!!!!!

    He’s tailor made for Ashley, the perfect man for the job with the way we are being run. If Ashley wanted rid of him it would have happened after last seasons pathetic showing when he could cut him lose with justification

  • 82 stuart no9 // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    boycotting shops , bars , SD stores is a start ,but that wont him and probably wont have any affect on his future decisions .Boycotting games ? that is where the damage will be done .
    SD is his baby. SD is advertised all over the world when televised, showing an empty ground or staging sit ins against the owner of this brand cannot be good publicity for MA, he will not want to see his brand advertised in such a negative situation . The real damage must come from inside the ground .

  • 83 Tsunki // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:11 PM

    Having said that, although we have a reasonable squad, there are some weak links either by attitude or skill. Some weeks they look useful, and the team manages to put in a performance. But some weeks they have a shocker and the rest of the team really struggles to hold it all together. Cabaye could see that the team needed some key personnel changes a while back, but it wasn’t going to happen, hence he knew CL wouldn’t happen with us, it was time to move on. Pardew sticks with Santon against all reason, the lad just isn’t good enough OR he is not being coached to his potential. Anita is still easily intimidated by the pressure and pace a PL match can have. Krul is a great shot stopper but has no confidence to play out to a back line that moves too far forward from kicks, Willo has been good defensively but on the ball his only thought is to get rid before bring challenged. Also, Pardew’s ideas mean talented players have to adapt their style to his percentage play ideas, hampering their natural strengths.

  • 84 shearer4pm // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    a financial boycott will not work, do you really think he is the type of person to just give in, or do you think he will just keep selling players to cover the loss. as awful as it is we have no power, nothing will work, just turn to religion and prey

  • 85 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    Laudable from Ed, laughable to Mikey.

    I’d like to know where Ed walks his dog because it doesn’t half promote utopian dreams.

    As to charging £10M a year for ground advertising surely that’s pure fantasy? Where does the figure come from? It’s an important point because, if that figure holds up, Mikey is doing the club a major disservice. I’d be surprised if anyone would pay £1M.

  • 86 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    BandB

    With more momentum comes more support, with more support comes a wider range of expertise and knowledge, and with that comes better tools with which to chip at this house of sand.

  • 87 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:20 PM

    Cisse, Sissoko and Remy play completely different to the way they played before he took a sledge hammer to them. Remy has stopped coming in from the wings, Sissoko, has stopped his power runs through midfield and Cisse looks as if he’s never played football all down to losers league one mentality. Sack Pardew!

  • 88 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:22 PM

    I’m still waiting for Ed to say where he got the information that Mikey was furious with Pardew? Have I missed it?

  • 89 toon kk // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:23 PM

    When JFK was brought in Mash thought he was getting someone with great football knowledge, but he was also brought in to use his so called knowledge to save the club money, hence the loan signings lack of transfers.
    JFK im sure will be looking at a couple of free transfers come the summer.
    Mash is a great business man!!!!

  • 90 Graeme // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:23 PM

    Stuart @ 82 – there is no such thing as bad publicity. Imagine the debacle created would then be shown on all the news programmes, shots from inside the ground, from the newscopter – all showing the huge SD sineage – its impossible not to.
    FCB would probably ask if you could come backthe following month as well – his exposure would rocket for a few days. He is so thick skinned I doubt he would care one iota.

    That should in no way prevent action being taken – the sit-in sounds a great idea and a VERY slow exit from the stadium when instructed. Those staircases are very steep, we wouldn’t want any accidents on the way out – would we?? That could cause even greater delays in emptying the stadium!

  • 91 cyprus // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    Blame game time

  • 92 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    Ciaran “the choke-hold of Ashley’s tyranny”. I like that. Great line for whichever blockbuster you make. I’m waiting on tenterhooks to hear whether it’s Sparticus or The Maginificent Seven?

  • 93 Mister Tuff // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:38 PM

    Blacklie and Brownlie – you were arguing earlier on that the catering would be franchised and that banners could be used in the ground.
    Really you need to keep up to speed with activities at SJP -stating such things as above really does illustrate that you are not aware of historic events at the club -in that banners and flags were banned ages ago and the catering was franchised out years ago.
    You really need to keep up to speed – your lack of knowledge of these well known “decisions” causes me some alarm.

  • 94 Spreadthetoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM

    It’s all too convenient to kick a man when he’s down. NUFC is not an attractive job to undertake due to the regime and constraints. Pellegrini, Wenger, Rodgers, Jose etc are all heavily backed in the transfer windows…..
    I know AP is very frustrating to observe but he’s left between a rock and a hard place. He’s expected to pass judgment / make comments about his superiors in a public format…..really! How many managers do u know of who do that?
    Furthermore when Gouffran, Remy and Cabaye did not feature (our primary scorers) it’s like sudden expectation that our goals were gonna come from somewhere else. Arsenal lost Viera, Man U Keane / Butt etc. tell me that these players absences did not significantly impact on the performance of those teams. Yes, we’re gonna struggle, and yes we are unlikely to amass a great deal of points for the remainder of the season. The fault lies with MA / JFK.
    Just don’t be so fickle in ur judgements coz’ I really don’t think too many managers would want to work in an environment whereby they are continually undermined.

  • 95 HullMag6 // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    Back to reality. Change.org have a Mike Ashley petition going, sign it and comment if you want – I have.

  • 96 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:47 PM

    Ciaran

    Remember this classic line form The Magnificent Seven,

    “If he rides in with no idea of the reception we can prepare for him, I promise you we’ll all teach him something about the price of corn!”

  • 97 stuart no9 // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    Graeme — I see your point regarding , no publicity is bad publicity. yeah, to an extent I agree .A slow walk out of the ground followed by a gathering at the entrance to the milburn stand and a sit in at that area would be a start. there is probably lots of ways to cause a disturbance ( legally) with a little thought.

  • 98 Mister Tuff // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    If people knew what the hierarchy at the Toon were up to -Percy would not be asked awkward questions.
    In an open and transparent environment – talking to the press is a doddle – as there is nothing to hide or be protective about -with PR folk gagging the only person who seems to be authorised to talk to the press.
    The Toon invite this crap upon themselves time after time.

  • 99 nufcusa // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    I have skimmed through most posts here and some are really good and have true validity.

    We all know Pardew will not get sacked and even if he did, JFK would take over.

    However for all those screaming that he should be sacked (and if I though the new managers power would be any different I would agree) no one has put forward a viable argument for a successor.

    Stick or twist? Based on the lack of options and the hierarchy in place we are better to stick!

    The only option I would consider would be DiMatteo. Proven in premier league, unfairly sacked by WBA and Chelsea and plays good football. Think he would suit our current crop perfectly.

  • 100 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    Blackley

    You’re becoming somewhat fixated with me, is there a particular reason why?

  • 101 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:52 PM

    Mister Tuff

    The joke was made that Mikey would sell refreshments to the sit in protesters. I quipped that he would likely franchise it out.

    As to banners being banned, have you heard of rules to be broken? If everyone takes a banner … Do you get the whole “I’m Sparticus” thing that I’ve been amusing myself with?

  • 102 Spreadthetoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:52 PM

    Slowly leaving the stadium would increase the policing costs, does that harm MA the billionaire or NUFC. Knowing MA just less coffers in the trf kitty.

  • 103 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:54 PM

    Ciaran @ 100

    It seems like it, doesn’t it? If I were to analyse it, I think it’s because you tickle me.

  • 104 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM

    Sack Pardew for losing 3 derbies in a row 4 FA cup third round games to inferior teams, allowing talented players to suffer his league one tactics, playing Saylor and Santon ahead of MYM and Haidarra.

  • 105 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    mag

    Sack Pardew and replace him with…………………???

  • 106 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 4:59 PM

    A small venezuelan cheese

  • 107 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    Four roast pigeons

  • 108 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    Ciaran,

    You may notice that, apart from a few people who have been goaded into a response, no-one else is biting.
    Or taking any notice. Not a very satisfactory few days work.
    You are most likely to explode. You, the MAOC person.
    Do the math!

  • 109 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    A disgruntled terrapin?

  • 110 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    A new patio?

  • 111 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    Morning all,

    Any news?

    I see Elmo is still with us.

  • 112 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    Jack

    haway man, whats the answer? :D

  • 113 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    Laudrup, pocchetino Di matteo Billy Davies Redknapp.

  • 114 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    Where’s a disgruntled terrapin? Nasty buggers them…let me know when you find it and i’ll get down off this chair (or for blog continuity…this fence).

  • 115 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    Evening ibiza

    Just the usual, well, i say usual, thought some of the nonsense on here today crossed a few lines of human decency. I almost gave up on following nufc (due to not being a proper fan) but a few of the level headed fans talked me down. For now at least :D

  • 116 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:07 PM

    mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    Laudrup, pocchetino Di matteo Billy Davies Redknapp.
    ——————————————————————-

    sorry mate didn’t realise you’ve either been sleeping or hiding under a rock for the past six years, but if you think for one second that any of those you’ve managers you’ve listed would be brought in you’ve never heard of a man called Mike Ashley.

    Sack Pardew and bring in Allan Curbishly or Mick Hartford is closer to the mark

  • 117 Spreadthetoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    There was also news that the official Newcastle United fan liaison officer Lee Marshall had deleted his Twitter account.

    Source Chronicle

    Good to see that the club has got good lines of communication open!

  • 118 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    Markaccus…Human decency? Proper fan? Level headed?

    Sorry mate, you have me totally lost ;)

  • 119 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    Markaccus

    Answers on a post card :D

  • 120 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    The way Mikey and Joe are running the show, we need a manager who is excellent, experienced, loyal, adaptable, able to cope when players are sold, up for the challenge and in for the rewards. That man’s not Pardew but I’m sure there are plenty of good, willing candidates out there.

    Persuading Mikey to sack Pardew and replace him with such a candidate is a far more realistic aim than ousting Mikey, never mind finding an acceptable replacement. I think we’d be pushing at an open door.

  • 121 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    Mag

    Laudrup is doing no better than pardew did when we were in europe.
    pocchetino might srruggle with all the french
    Di matteo might be worth a shout, but i doubt he would want to work under Ashley.
    i have no idea about davies…..
    But Redknapp???? We have one horrible crook here already, we would be in trouble for dodgy dealing within a month with old steak face and his amazing accounting dog!!!

  • 122 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:13 PM

    Blackly

    There might be some good ones out there, but i would argue that they would NOT be willing to work under Mash

  • 123 mindshaft // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    The level of investment needed to attain a top four position is way beyond a club who expect to finance transfers from profits alone. The best we can possibly hope for is top 6 – 8 and less if more clubs invest more than us.
    We seem to be unable to progress anyone from the youth setup so finding a gem there seems highly unlikely and given our top figure for transfer in is around 10 million we are unlikely to buy a world class player

  • 124 toon kk // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    If Pardew was ever gonna be sacked, which I can’t see happening any time soon he’s fits in perfect with MA there would be a ready and waiting manager, yep the one and only JFK.

  • 125 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:15 PM

    Ibiza

    sorry mate. I realise how that might be confusing :D

    On a different subject… does anyone else think that new version of Robocop might be good? I grew up with the original and i quite fancy it.

  • 126 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    Something to cheer us all up :D

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=627020804001485

  • 127 mindshaft // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    Laudrup is as bad as Pards if not worse
    Di Matteo was awful at West Brom and given that he had world class players at Chelsea wasn’t much better ( by all accounts Terry and co were almost picking the team under Di Matteo)
    I’m not a Pardew lover but we need to be realistic on who we could get to replace him.

  • 128 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    Billy Davies is doing a sound job at forest with no money and young kids and he knows how to get past the third round of the FA cup.

  • 129 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    Toon kk

    thats exactly the point i keep making, but people must bury their heads in the sand and hope we end up with Pep G or someone like that

  • 130 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:19 PM

    Markaccus

    Mikey has provided the manager with the best squad we have ever had. I’ve never seen us with a stronger bench.

    Okay, our best player was sold without an immediate replacement. That has happened throughout the history of Newcastle United, and there has never been a shortage of willing applicants for the manager’s job. We ‘ve had some of the biggest names in world football. What is the problem?

  • 131 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:20 PM

    127 Hall ha! He won a cup in his first season at Swansea you melon!

  • 132 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    BandB

    I know, merely trying to get him to justify his obsession/reveal that he really is yet another reincarnation of he who shall not be named.

  • 133 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    Jack

    hahahahahaha

  • 134 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    Mindshaft more minddaft!

  • 135 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    How come everyone’s “realistic” about the calibre of manager we could attract, but have absolutely no doubt that our next owner is going to be so much better than Mikey?

    There are any amount of rich benefactors waiting in the wings to take over from Mikey and squander their money seeking glory for Newcastle United, aren’t there Ciaran?

  • 136 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    I would take laudrup

    not Mateo

    why carnt G Carr scout a manager ?

  • 137 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    Blakley

    Had. A key word. Every top manager around the world has watched how Mash runs his club, and the restrictions on the manager, not to mention the DOFs and MDs employed above a managers. A top manager out of work now is better off taking a 5 month holiday in bermuda and waiting for the Barca job to become available, than taking the god-forasaken role as Newcastle manager.

  • 138 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    General Custer had a scout like Carr and you all know what happened to him!

  • 139 TurkishFan101 // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:32 PM

    Come on lads sign this petition on:

    http://www.change.org/petitions/mike-ashley-sell-newcastle-united-football-club-2

    The more we get, it will be approved and increase the limit and expose it self in the social media where most attention is these days!

  • 140 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM

    Ciaran,

    Can I just be straight about Ian Toon.

    I no longer think he is multiple posting.

    What’s more, I think he and bills-son are part of the natural ecosystem of the blog, and I’m sad they aren’t posting, as I’m sad Beattie and Yo-Yo, and Carrycoals don’t post more.

    When they don’t post, something worse springs up in their places.

    bills-son won’t be getting any ill-natured pelters from me for stating what he honestly (I think) believes. He and Jail are a good double-act, with some mutual respect built in.

    Come back bills. Nothing is forgiven!

  • 141 microbar // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM

    What does Ashley have to do to piss pardew off.
    Shag his wife or something.
    Any other manager with any trace of dignity would tell the fat man where to stick his job.
    I have supported nufc since the 70s but what has happened over the last couple of years, Has made me think again about renewing my season ticket.

  • 142 cyprus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    Ed,
    Has the actual five year plan been scrapped? Just asking so don’t shoot the mailman.

    Bits and peaces on the net, mainly on finances but also on goals:

    “MIKE ASHLEY is making plans which he hopes will allow Newcastle United to “challenge for everything” within five years.” (That’s 2015)

  • 143 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:35 PM

    Catchy…I would assume it’s because a new manager isn’t wanted?

    Elmo…I’m not sure anyone has said that the next owner will absolutely be better than Ashley. However, it’s fairly easy to guess, although perhaps incorrectly (being kind here), what type of manager Ashley would hire….you know, from experience.

    I ask you both, if Ashley, who you both deem to not be the biggest problem at the club (correct me if I am wrong), why hasn’t he done something about Pardew? He’s had chances to fire him if he wanted to.

    I think Catchy believes it’s to avoid having to pay out Pardew and he’d rather he walked. How it that not a bigger problem in itself?

    Recognising the problem but choosing to ignore it due to financial implications…actually…could be pretty spot on.

  • 144 TurkishFan101 // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:35 PM

    JackButler

    lol, funny video but oddly, I could see the left being Pardew and the guy on the right Mike Ashley.

  • 145 toon kk // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:36 PM

    Not sure what the massive problem is with Pardew being our manager, apart from the fact he has no balls.
    Yes there’s better managers out there but who’s going to work under MA rules? ????? They can’t even build their own team.
    If Pardew had the proper backing we wouldn’t be having this debate. He has had us playing ok when he has had a fully fit squad to choose from.
    Trouble is take our best players out and we’re always going to struggle. For a start where’s our goals going to come from with Remy , Goofy and now Cabs out?

  • 146 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:37 PM

    “We are family, I’ve got all my sisters with me”

    BandB…Nice post.

  • 147 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    mark

    that’s where your listening to to many people on here and not having your own opinions

    no one is asking for a top proven manager, I do not want a tried and washed out manager that is in his late 50s that is still on the uk merry go round,

    there are managers out there around the world working with no budgets winning things
    poyet was one
    ole gunner was one
    Martinez was one

    take a chance

  • 148 sparky55 // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    I think most of you are pre-judging what young hungry managers would think of the opportunity of managing newcastle even with Mashley in Charge.

    If you are say an up and coming manager like Pochy, or a Laudrup, a Rogers, a Poyet, a OGS for example…and Mashley said to you…”You know what I’m like, you know I run the club like a business, you know I’m a tight cnut, I’m not going to give you any budget for 18 months, but I can offer you premiership football, a good squad and 50,000 home supporters and I want you to get the most out of this crop of players, will you come work for me on 500k a year…I THINK EVERY ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE SNATCHED HIS HAND OFF.

    Obviously we can’t get any of those managers for that kind of money now, put there’s plenty of managers at the same stage in their careers like the above were two years ago that would join us under those circumstances.

    So just don’t get the argument of who we would get cos even Mashley can’t be happy at the Sh!te Pardew delivers week in week out.

    As a supporter I would be much happier with a progressive manager making his squad play like sunderland did on saturday against us and put up with Ashley so long as the football was good.

    We all know what Ashley is about now…all we have to do is accept it and get on with it, but we don’t have to accept the sh!te Pardew serves up every week do we?

  • 149 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:40 PM

    BandB

    Could be the case, but I am very wary of posters who spring from nowhere to attack me for no good reason, yet have a very in-depth knowledge of my previous points of view. It engenders a belief that they have an agenda – I know I p**s people off with my points of view, but how many would have an actual agenda?

    I would like Bills to come back and defend his points of view, or failing that, admit that he had got it wrong. He failed to do that at the end of the summer window, so I doubt he will do that now. He will be back, he’s just waiting for the dust to settle.

  • 150 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:41 PM

    ibiza

    the bigger problem is Ashley for sure

    the easier problem to solve is pardew

  • 151 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:42 PM

    The funny thing is, if we had a “better” manager, he would likely get more out of the squad and thus the players and team would do better, which would increase their value.

    It’s just a shame that the better managers don’t appear to enjoy being undermined constantly. Not sure what their problem is tbh, who doesn’t like taking the stick for someone else on top of their own stuff?

  • 152 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:43 PM

    Ciaran:

    There’s that paranoia creeping in. If I have a doppelganger, I’d love him to come on. Is it Ian?

    This is a strange phenomenon. It’s the same on the other blog. My brother Troy, a similar master blog voice to you Ciaran, suspected I was “KK” and departed immediately because he wasn’t getting an easy ride any more. Unbelievably, he left there to get away from me (even though I had been banned for months) and came on here where I was! I tell you it’s paranoia.

    It doesn’t bother me if someone’s a doppelganger, WUM, or shill. I don’t care if you come on as Ciaran or Ruddy in the space of five minutes. You make a point and I will deal with that point on its merits. I wouldn’t go dishing out labels or abuse just because I couldn’t deal with a point. That’s just an easy ploy.

  • 153 TurkishFan101 // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:43 PM

    Guess who Jose Mourinho is talking about here, I give you a hint, he manages us atm..

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=626292040741028&set=vb.516588825044684&type=3&theater

  • 154 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:43 PM

    My sisters?
    With ME!!!!!!!!??????
    I fuggin hope not!!!!

    Have to go. I had a client booked in for this afternoon, and rushed him out after an hour because I was blogging. Silly.

    And, no G2, afternoon appointments with manly men are NOT how I make my living!

  • 155 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    Catchy…Fair enough. Do you actually think it will solve anything? Surely it’d be more a temporary fix?

    I take on board what Sparky says about being able to attract a young and upcoming manager. It’s possible, much like it is with players.

    Issue is, we’d only be a stepping stone until the owners ambitions match those of the managers and players.

    That issue will still be there, so I would imagine said new manager wont be around for long.

    So we’d get to see the start of better football, just for a new guy to come in and start again? Likely with new players…again.

    I don’t believe it is of much interest to Ashley. Consistency is key for the masterplan ;)

  • 156 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    Catchy

    my own opinion is that the only manager ashley will appoint will be an old dud. He will not employ ANYONE like you have mentioned. And even if he did, they would REFUSE to work under his system.This IS my opinion and my view on it, i cant help it if others agree or not.

  • 157 Ciaran // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    Blackley

    I have informed you already that there is not a single point that you can make that I cannot easily refute.

    Ibiza called it spot on last night when he said that I flip a switch when I feel someone is a lost cause – you are in said category and are as such, not worthy of me wasting my time on you.

    Why should you demand any of my time when it can be better spent trying to convince people with an open mind?

    On that bombshell I am out of here – not because I am in any way fearful of you, but because I have a number of more pressing concerns to attend to. I am sure you understand.

    Peace out homies.

  • 158 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    BandB… :) Take care.

  • 159 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    Sack Pardew for not being capable of understanding what winning the Tyne and Wear derby means to the supporters.

  • 160 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:47 PM

    Ciaran,

    If bills EVER admits he was wrong, I will be the first person to leave the blog in disgust.
    In fact, I sometimes miss the old Ruddy :)

  • 161 p // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    Per Backley, I am not sure what the solution is?

    I think the anti Mash campaign is unlikely to change his ways and start sinking lots of cash into the club. It may get him to sell up but I would not bet on it, he is a stubbord, bloody minded guy by all accounts.

    Even if he did sell up, it can always be worse as better.

  • 162 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    And i am glad we didnt get ole gunnar saucebottle, he went about signing man u rejects.

  • 163 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    Ciaran… Wimp! ;) Catch ya later.

  • 164 Marty-Toon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:50 PM

    We have an owner who just wants us to exist while picking up the money on offer each year.
    He doesn’t want players in their 30′s with no sell on value.
    He wants top young players at a cheap price before they become world class so he can sell them on.
    Would be nice if he was saving the sell on cash along with the PL cash and saving it until summer transfer window in 2017 and then gonna spend 200 million on new players to make us compete at the top BUT that’s just not gonna happen is it?
    We can hurt him by keeping our money in our pockets on match day and at his stores but that’ll only happen for a little while and things will go back to how they were.
    The only way it’ll change is if someone buys him out and no one took the chance when it was up for just 100 million so it doesn’t seem anyone wants the poisoned chalice at NUFC apart from the fans and there doesn’t seem enough of us with the money to put together :-(

    Sad sad days unfortunately

  • 165 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    Ciaran

    You are the master blog voice. That’s how I remember you. You’re always here to remind me anyway. Everyone knows your agenda.

    If you assume that mantle, you have to accept that you will provoke a reaction. I can’t remember what Ian’s line was, but I do recall sympathising with him because he was making reasonable points, whether or not he was a doppelganger. Like me, he protested his innocence but no one would have it. You enlisted your buddies to close ranks.

  • 166 antspants // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:53 PM

    Lets all face the facts fellas.
    Ashley wont spend
    We lose a considerable amount of players next year due to contracts etc.
    Ben Arfa will be the next one out.
    Without Remy playing up top (although he is a winger) we have no striking options. Strolla has never been good enough and would struggle to get championship starts IMHO. His brother is twice the player he is just being mobile.
    It would be a dream for all of us to represent our club but these players couldn’t really give two F!£$S. Im sure that they go home to their model looking wives in their super expensive cars and have the dog on………
    If there is no ambition from the club as a whole why should they knock their pipe out, they get paid regardless.
    As for some that have posted that they would prefer to get relegated so FATTY F’s OFF well. Hes not going to sell the club at a profit then is he. He will spend minimum for mid table stability and the TV money.
    I was born and still live in the south to Geordie family, some of who still live in the NE. I see a few games a season at SJP due to the tv schedule and the costs.
    I had a season ticket for two years during the SBR era and have had the emotional delight at being top at XMAS. I do not feel that I can honestly say that if I lived in Newcastle that I would give up my ticket because I know for a fact that I would go anyway.
    The merchandise needs to stop, we all have older shirts that we can wear, shirts that were worn with pride, not shirts that were bought from S£”$T D&^%$T. Stop lining the twats pockets in any way you can.

    Got to be honest, im no longer angry just fed up with it all TDH

  • 167 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    Blackley…I have in the past shared many decent conversations with Ruddy and Ian on here, both have decent points to be made.

    However, I don’t think you know what actually happened with regards to the multiple posters, so perhaps it’s best not to assume?

    He protested his innocence and suggested people contact Ed for clarification. I did.

    Still wont change how I interact with anyone, as you say, a point is there to be debated. However, Ciaran is perfectly within his right to feel he may be wasting his time with some people…there is history of it.

    Has everyone been behaving well enough today?

  • 168 p // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:00 PM

    marty @164, I am not convinced about this.

    I think Mash can make money far more easily than owning Newcastle United. Did her not make a shed load of cash within days on a stake in Debenhams or something the other week?

    I do think he could find a buyer, get his money back or more and put it to use in a more profitable way. I am not sure “free” advertising is that much of a determinate either.

    So, he must like the cache of owning a PL club and if so, presumably he would want it to be a half decent one.

    I am not saying Mash is a great, stand up guy or anything, I just do not buy this notion that he is an evil villain who wants to drain the club dry. He is already a billionaire, not sure owning NUFC is worth the hassle if it’s just about money.

  • 169 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:01 PM

    Ciaran @57

    You say, “I have informed you already that there is not a single point that you can make that I cannot easily refute.” You have indeed.

    The predictable response of a master blog voice, coupled with the tactics of a sharp exit. Master of the arguments of assertion and then BLANK, NAME CALL or RUN.

  • 170 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    Ibiza – The last I heard was when Ian was pleading for someone to contact Ed. If you did, please tell me what he said. Please don’t take it from that that I’m Ian. I just recall the whole saga and I never heard the outcome, if indeed there was one. My sympathies lay with Ian at the time.

  • 171 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:05 PM

    Ciaran

    If I were you mate I’d really start to worry as you do seem to attracted the attention of all the weirdo’s on here :D

  • 172 ONLINE GUY // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    BandB

    #1 ..just been to dentist..your post made one laugh after open wallet surgery.

  • 173 antspants // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Marty-Toon

    Didn’t the man city lot enquire about the purchase only for fatty to put some ridiculous price in ?
    Ashley isn’t stupid, hes pretty much got it sown up.
    Free advertising etc.
    I can understand buying players young and selling them on for profit.
    Look at the spurs model. Buy sell and eventually build up the funds, wishful thinking.
    Fatty will not re invest.
    Look at all of the clubs assets he is selling ie the ground around the stadium !!!
    He will continue to rape it dry.

  • 174 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    There’s been 4 thousand season ticket cancellations already.

  • 175 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    Ibizs…is it only in the past you have had decent conversations with both Ruddy and Ian? ;)

  • 176 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    *Ibiza

  • 177 antspants // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    mag

    I hope its true mate !!!

  • 178 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    antspants

    Remy is a striker not a winger, he plays as a Advance forward and is capable of playing as a inside forward on the wings hence not a winger

  • 179 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    Blackley…To be completely honest, I was disappointed that Ed didn’t just release a very brief statement on the blog to clear up a situation that took over the blog for a long time.

    All I got back really was something along the lines of “I have already caught him doing this once and he said he’d never do it again.”

    He did then come back to me and say that it didn’t appear that he still was using another ID on here – which wasn’t what I had asked, but fair enough.

    I will admit, I wasn’t so sure tbh. However, I think it is clear that something was going on, so enlisting your buddies to close ranks, seems to be common practice on here then.

  • 180 LocalZero // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    P
    I totally agree. Except possibly for the idea that MA could easily get his money back.

  • 181 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    mag@174

    i’m one of them mate ;)

  • 182 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:13 PM

    Jesper…At this moment in time, any and all conversations with them have been in the past…both good and bad :)

  • 183 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:14 PM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/irate-newcastle-united-fans-sell-3108934?

    epic!

  • 184 antspants // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    Sure you have all seen this but :

    Net transfer spend last 5 seasons:

    1 Manchester City £479,950,000
    2 Chelsea £269,759,000
    3 Manchester United £138,750,000
    4 Stoke City £91,175,000
    5 Liverpool £89,400,000
    6 Aston Villa £86,000,000
    7 Southampton £60,750,000
    8 Hull City £47,775,000
    9 Sunderland £46,930,000
    10 Cardiff City £40,470,000
    11 West Ham £30,550,000
    12 Norwich City £21,650,000
    13 Swansea £18,745,000
    14 West Bromwich Albion £14,726,000
    15 Crystal Palace £11,950,000
    16 Fulham £10,880,000
    17 Tottenham £3,850,000
    18 Arsenal -£4,125,000
    19 Everton -£12,315,500
    20 Newcastle -£45,000,000

  • 185 mag // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    The revolution has begun!

  • 186 antspants // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    @NUFC_Stats: Ashley’s profit years:
    10/11 – £24.75m
    09/10 – £24m
    08/09 – £2.25m

    Prior profit years:
    00/01 – £4.1m
    96/97 – £5.1m
    93/94 – £5.01m

  • 187 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Black & White…Saw that yesterday, funny stuff.

    Although postage at £0.69 would be tricky.

  • 188 juan // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    What a load of crap. This blog gets worse

  • 189 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    Ibiza

    are you still slumming it in LA mate or have you returned to normality yet?

  • 190 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    Ibiza – So are you saying that poor Ian, who I think admitted doing it in the past, did appear to be telling the truth? I really can’t remember the ins and outs (who was his doppelganger?), just that he did seem to be genuine. And why else would he appeal to Ed?

  • 191 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    Catchy and Sparky
    And what happens to our new managers team if any of them dare to play well consistently and Jabba gets his tiny arms on them?,have you not saw what happened this transfer window?.What makes you think Jabba won’t treat the next manager like Pardew?

  • 192 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Ibizatoon

    aye mate the postage would be tricky especially with WEIGHT cost :)

  • 193 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    5kg alone cost about £10 with insurance ;)

  • 194 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    does anyone know how much our club is worth? or how much MA is willing to sell at?

  • 195 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    reported to be around the £300 million mark

  • 196 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    JB…I am indeed. Slumming it from one place to the next :)

    Back home next week.

    Blackley…I don’t believe Ian has ever admitted to doing so at any point on the blog. Just that he was innocent and people should check with Ed. I have no idea why and don’t plan to try and figure out why.

    I even asked Ian if there was a possibility of emailing him, so it didn’t need to be discussed on the blog, which he declined. He could have used a temporary email address if he was concerned about contact. Since then he’s been pretty quiet.

    I have said to him in the past that I don’t really care and that it’s best all parties move on. Hard to do that though when it keeps getting denied.

    Black and White…I want to know which company there were using…save me a fortune on shipping in the future.

  • 197 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    JackButler

    cheers mate, it’s just i remember the Man Shitty owners offered 300 million but MA went 400 or 500 million

  • 198 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    For what it’s worth, I personally enjoyed chatting with Ian…the blog does need varying opinions and whether justified or not, a bit of optimism is always appreciated….

    …I’ll take it where I can get it these days (I am still talking about optimism here :) )

  • 199 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    Black and White

    It would seem that he wants £200 million for the club itself and £100 million back for the loan that he so graciously gave us, though he is reported to have already taken £30 million back and could possible take another £65-70 out this coming summer

  • 200 Mike's Iron Curtain // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    When I see fans pathetically mourn that they have so little control to self-regulate and such vacuity in their lives, that they cannot stay away from St James’ Park for 7/8 games until the end of the season, to remove an egregiously selfish blubber titted blob, I despair. How grossly weak.

    There is no hope in the proles.

  • 201 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    It really isn’t a matter of what Ed said to Ciaran, or what Ed said to Ian.
    The waving of emails from Ed, neither of which were ever posted, left this bad blood.
    As Ibizatoon says, Ed was rather mealy-mouthed about it all.
    The indisputable fact is, the issue only arose because Ian was caught red-handed by other bloggers, doing it.
    If you want me to go back and post the exchange, I have time.
    Ian has since tried to claim he was cleared by Ed of ever doing it. Ed’s statement did not go that far.
    The evidence is on the record.
    However, “go hence and sin no more” and all that.
    It is time to get over it. Things have moved on.

  • 202 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    Can someone explain to me why staying away from St James’s will get rid of jabba?,the guy’s a billionaire,even if we stayed away til 2057 i still think he’d be ok for money.

  • 203 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:42 PM

    Mojo…Whilst they say any publicity is good publicity, I cannot imagine an empty stadium would be the sort of publicity he’d want.

    Of course he could hold it financially, but I doubt he’d want to.

    Not much attraction for sponsors etc…and seeing as he’s our biggest sponsor (in space covered…obviously not financially) I would have thought it’d matter.

    If it didn’t, it would once again show him up for what he is.

  • 204 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:44 PM

    MrMojoRisin76

    Seeing’s as all our games are televised around the globe an empty SJP would create massive media scrutiny on Ashley and by association Sports Direct, with the negativity of his reign being highlighted for all to see it would be the last thing he would want. After all we have all seen the clubs reaction to the reports by local media on the march against him, can you imagine his reaction if that was intensified everywhere???

  • 205 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:44 PM

    Ibizatoon,

    Indeed.
    Wonga must be starting to wonder why they ever allowed their good name to be associated with the toxic Mike Ashley.

  • 206 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    BandB…That would be some turn of events. Imagine a payday loan company like Wonga not wanting to be associated with him and pulling out.

  • 207 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    Ibiza
    Apart from Saturday the team has done nothing wrong,wouldn’t that be punishing the team?.What sort of message would we be sending to the players,jabba sh1t on them,now the fans are?.If that happens won’t a lot of the players want to go if they don’t anyway?

  • 208 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:47 PM

    MrMojoRisin76

    the players would see it as the fans not putting up with our best players being sold and the lack of investment by Ashley

  • 209 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:48 PM

    BandB and ibiza

    the irony. Ohhhhh the irony. And the aluminiumy. And the zincy

  • 210 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:50 PM

    I think my roaming data is about to expire, so if i cut off abruptl………

  • 211 check the toastie // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:50 PM

    Hope we get Laudrup if Ashley bins Parsnip.

    He has Routledge playing with more end product than Ben Arfa or Marveaux, people on here who think he isn’t as competent as Percy need to give their head a shake, probably the same people who slated Martinez for not being good enough for The Toon.

    We need a new manager before we decide to bin Cisse who has been ruined by the knob in charge.

  • 212 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    He doesn’t give a f@ck,even if the match is televised with no fans his adverts would still be seen,this is a guy that’s banned journo’s from the stadium,don’t think he cares too much about bad publicity.

  • 213 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    Ibizatoon,

    You may (or may not, on your travels) have noticed that Wonga are paying a lot of attention to amending their message.
    Those rather vulturous old morons have gently morphed into rather cutesy guitar virtuosos.
    “Loadsamoney!!!!!! isn’t really their thing these days.
    I predict next season’s shirt logo will be a bare-chested Mike waving his wad.
    Apologies if this image is rather too elderly for you to recall.

  • 214 kikgras // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:52 PM

    BPL TV revenue may be shared, but the mechanism in which teams can fill their roster and how players move is ridiculous – transfer fees etc. sadly, soccer is too much like american baseball in this regard to a great extent. The rich will always get richer.

    Face it – unless the Toon is sold to a moneybags owner as a plaything for his/her ego, our best bet is to have a really nice season – 5th or so – here and there and also be subject to the scare of relegation from time to time. Sound familiar? passion for the team in an owner can only come from themselves being a fan. Even the owners of Chelski, MANU, MANC, PSG, Monaco etc have no true passion for their teams. owning a sports teams is all about ego and investment. They will ALL make money on the sale of their clubs – do not be fooled. what happens when they have it is up to them, make money or win trophies. Those who win trophies don’t necessarily make a profit. its all whats more important to the owner. Obvioulsy Mr Ashley wants to make money now and when he sells – his choice, he has the reigns.

  • 215 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:53 PM

    Mojo…I used to share that thought process. However, there are two things that come to mind.

    Firstly…Players wanting out or being sold is happening anyway. If things continue like they are, I would imagine that will only happen more and more.

    Secondly…I’m not sure how much support they’re getting as things stand anyway. I will say that I don’t attend games. Easy excuse is I live overseas, but even when I lived in the south of England I didn’t go to games, mind I left when I was 14. The feeling at SJP must be painful right now. Fans running on the pitch, throwing their season tickets at Pardews feet, anti establishment chants, etc.

    I had hoped there may be a way to try and repair the relationship between fans and owner, but he doesn’t appear the slightest bit interested. The fans forum is a joke imo.

    What should people be doing? I think it irresponsible at this point to do nothing proactive. People can only take so much and acting out of frustration and uncontrolled anger is not the way to go imo.

  • 216 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:54 PM

    MrMojoRisin76

    If he didn’t give a f**k then he wouldn’t have banned the local press for reporting on the march against him.

    Would he ban the national press?

    No way in hell as he knows that if they all turn on him the scrutiny he would come under would be unbearable for him and all of the SD shareholders

  • 217 Mike's Iron Curtain // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:55 PM

    Mojo

    It’s the simplest step to gain the most attraction from the media. Other projects can be developed around it. Once the media have picked it up and are running with it, he and his other business practices could come under the microscope, damaging his reputation. It’s a clear message he has overstayed his welcome. It’s a start, who knows what knock-on effect it’ll ultimately have.

    We know he’s a sensitive soul when it comes to criticism, by how he surrounds himself with friends and shuts down attempts to hold him to account. He publicly stated the club was up for sale before, with little coercion other than a few rallies. If we can get him to do that again, we and the PL are a much sounder proposition, so hopefully it’ll pique a few (more philanthropic) parties interest to make him an offer and put an end to the whole shenanigans.

    It’d be one of the proudest moments in this clubs history and we could all unite once more and chase that elusive trophy.

  • 218 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:55 PM

    BandB

    haway man, topless ashley is not an image i want in my head. I haven’t eaten yet!

  • 219 kikgras // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:56 PM

    BTW – if NUFC is supposed to be modeled after Arsenal, why is NUFC not marketed the same way? You are hard-pressed to find anything with the Newcaslte name on it here in the states. But, even in litle ol’ Wisconsin I can walk into a sprting good s store and find MANU, REAL, CHELSKI, or friggin CELTIC!! Don’t get me wrong I like Celtic, but come on!!!

  • 220 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:57 PM

    We are not dealing with a normal guy here,he’s a billionaire.i couldn’t be a billionaire,because i have compassion,you have to be the type of guy that is willing to do literally anything to get what you want,i doubt if he classes himself part of “our” species anymore he has so much money and power.If we could see in jabba’s head and make a movie of his life and the things he’s done it would be that scary your eye’s would bleed.

  • 221 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    Mojo…Maybe in it’s simplest form, it’s more about doing something for ourselves rather than expecting it to change Ashley.

    I for one am exhausted of the constant whinging and would love for there to be some form of plan to put our energies in to instead. Whether that is boycotting I don’t know, but you have to start somewhere.

    BandB…Is the re-branding working over there?

    I’m afraid that reference is a little lost on me, but the thought of a bare chested Ashley isn’t…so thanks for that! :)

  • 222 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:00 PM

    MrMojoRisin76

    what he understands is money, does he really want the media focusing on his zero hours contracts? his eastern sweat shops? All the things what will have a direct effect on his wealth?

  • 223 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:01 PM

    Mike
    He already know’s he’s overstayed his welcome or he wouldn’t have blatantly done what he did in the transfer window,he know’s he’s hated since he put the club up for sale last time yet he still does what he does.I want rid but i don’t think this is the way,you don’t get to be a billionaire by listening to what people say when you shaft them.

  • 224 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:01 PM

    Ibiza

    I think it was in referance to an old harry enfeild character. Loadsamoney. He always displayed his wad

  • 225 John Tudor // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:01 PM

    voodoo required

  • 226 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    Am i right, BandB or did i miss :D

  • 227 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    Markaccus…I see, thanks.

  • 228 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    About 5 mins on my roaming data. Will have to wait till i am home to go wireless. Luckily it refreshes tomorrow.

  • 229 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:04 PM

    Markaccus,

    You are right.
    Ibizatoon really needs to get the hang of this new-fangled YouTube thingerybob.

  • 230 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    There are even old episodes of Morph from tony hearts art programs on you tube. Takes me right back

  • 231 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:07 PM

    JackButler
    “what he understands is money, does he really want the media focusing on his zero hours contracts? his eastern sweat shops? All the things what will have a direct effect on his wealth?

    Haven’t people been looking into his zero hour contracts and such for a while now?.
    We cannot hurt him financially even if it brings a sh1tload of media attention he’ll still have his billions.

  • 232 Markaccus // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:07 PM

    Hmmm still have not gone offline…..

  • 233 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    I just want to check if the old gaffer has resigned yet?

    …he is really thinking this through ;)

  • 234 JackButler // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    MrMojoRisin76

    If he doesn’t care cause he has his money then why did he ban the local press? Why did he try to sell up last time we stood up against him?

    I think you are underestimating the effect a sustained stand against him would have, he doesn’t want the media microscope aimed at him

  • 235 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:12 PM

    I have said if i had my way next time he’s at a game either all turn to look at him and chant the”You Fat B@stard” song for 90 mins or my personal favourite,stare at him for 90 mins,turn your back on the game and stare at him without saying a word.

  • 236 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:16 PM

    JackButler
    He put the club up for sale before because of good old fashioned pure hate.He’s done it before,he’ll do it again but it’s hard to abuse him when he doesn’t go to that many games.I’m sure next time he’s there it’ll be interesting.

  • 237 Toonboi4EVA // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    If anyone uses facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mikeashleyoutcampaign
    I know it won’t directly get him out of our club, but its a start, and hopefully we will get noticed soon enough.

  • 238 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    And although i won’t condone death threats i understand them,if you f@ck with a passionate fans club you might as well be f@cking with his family.

  • 239 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    BandB…Youtube and I don’t see eye to eye I’m afraid.

    It’s on par with searching through a SD store for good content.

    Mojo…I’m not sure what you think staring at him will achieve if he doesn’t care what we think? He has the money already!

  • 240 LocalZero // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    MrMojoRisin76 at 236
    Not sure Ashley put the club up for sale out of hate.

  • 241 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    Ibiza
    I did give you the “You Fat B@stard” song as an alternative,and i did say it was my personal favourite,i don’t like being stared at,it’s creepy.

  • 242 Mike's Iron Curtain // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    Mojo

    I don’t think he’s as thick skinned as you portray him. Dictators and bullies get away with what they do, because they have an air of authority and a lack of compassion, which means they often have people willing to credulously yield to them. Once somebody has the courage to challenge them and get under their skin, they’re quickly flustered and lash out, as demonstrated by his reflex to put the club up for sale after a few rallies, his banning of the press that looked to lift the lid on issues of fan concern, the attempt at repressing and fragmenting the recalcitrant sections of support inside St James’ Park, his appointment of cronies willing to bend over any which way to please him and firing ones that wouldn’t (Houghton) and his disbanding of any players that were seen to be holding power to sway opinion and weren’t particularly fond of him.

    Further evidence he likes to be liked, was his initial period here, doing the man of the people routine, then crying and taking his ball after litigious proceedings proved him to be an outright liar and manipulator, estranging himself from the fans who he revelled in being accepted by and fawned over.

    A movement to oust him is better than burrowing along on this desultory path, emphatically, in my eyes.

  • 243 BandB // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    Loadsamoney is probably a billionaire too now.
    But long gone are the days when a fat, ignorant plasterer with money plopping out of his arse was a figure of fun.
    These days, he’d be a guru. To prostrate yourself before.
    Unquestioningly.
    Hoping he’ll be kind enough to sack your best mate instead.

  • 244 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    LocalZero
    We abused him and gave him death threats he sold up,we abused and gave him death threats because we hate him.

  • 245 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    Mojo…Sorry mate, that will make all the difference :)

  • 246 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    Markaccus what restrictions is the manager under? Mikey doesn’t pick the team and he doesn’t allow joe a say. The manager sanctions all new recruits. If he doesnt want them, we dont grt them. They come from the managers wishlist. And as I say, Newcastle United have always had to sell big stars and get on with it. Look at wenger and rvp.

  • 247 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    When Alan Pardew resign and he will, what do you guys think of giving Joke InEar a go?

    …he has a vast amount of experience and he has signed almost all of our players anyway ;) lol

  • 248 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    Mike
    I agree with you,my initial point was i don’t think fans not going to games is the way to get rid of him.

  • 249 Jail for Ashley // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    blackley,
    Arsenal tried desperately to hold on to RVP, I can’t ever remember Wenger saying we was always vunerable to a big club.

  • 250 toon kk // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    Just wondering do any other premier league’s club supporters have the same problems with their owner like we do with Mash? Or are we uneak?

  • 251 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:39 PM

    Ibiza
    Ok then.What about “The Braveheart”,all able men over 16(women optional over 18) turn our back’s to the game and bare our asses at him for a decent amount of time?

  • 252 HullMag6 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    On the plus side 3 points from safety lol

  • 253 Jail for Ashley // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:41 PM

    blackley,
    Your brother Troy Stavers seems alright, are you real brothers ?

  • 254 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:42 PM

    Jail
    They were always vulnerable. Most teams are. Nufc has always been. Its a managers job to get on with it. I often read the mantra about the unfair restrictions on the manager placed by mikey. But what are they?

  • 255 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:44 PM

    Mojo…Ah yes, target Ashleys weakness…bare bums!

    I still think no bums on seats sends the best message, but that’s just me.

  • 256 Mike's Iron Curtain // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:44 PM

    Mojo

    Depends how grizzly a sight your rear end is. I’m sure he’s not only seen, but pumped some wretched specimens in the past, in Dekkas, Joes etc.

    Any more suggestions?

    The classic hitman is the only viable method. Who’d inherit his fortune and assets? Has he remarried?

  • 257 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    Yes we are. Hes 3 years younger. We’ve never spoken to each other for over a year because of an argument on the blog about pardew.

  • 258 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    Seems rational.

  • 259 Jail for Ashley // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    blackley,
    Don’t you think that not a single permanent signing in a season is a restriction or rewarding a double manager of the year by weakening his squad before an EL campaign could also be classed asva restriction.

  • 260 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:47 PM

    Mike
    Believe me,I’M scared of my ass.If i could get it close to him a good gaze at it and he might turn to stone.

  • 261 RonVanDam // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    HullMag6

    If we hit 50points by April then i’ll be happy but MA still needs to invest in quality next summer

  • 262 Jail for Ashley // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    blackley,
    Don’t you think you should let it go and apologize, your brother seems a very reasonable poster.

  • 263 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    Does anybody know where you can get snake-proof toilet paper?

  • 264 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    Jail
    He started the season with a very strong squad with no europa as an excuse. He’s lost cabaye and gained de jong. Most managers would happily work under those restrictions and understand its part and parcel of football. Its whether and how you deal with it. Thats what a manager is for. The clue is in the job title.

  • 265 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 7:57 PM

    Jail
    Why do you assume that I not he should apologise? I’m always ready to accept his apology.

  • 266 Ibizatoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    Blackley…Why were you banned from .co.uk?

  • 267 Toon Tang // Feb 3, 2014 at 8:05 PM

    So, that mcdermott affair at Leeds is weird, they sack him and then realise they’d have to pay out so reinstated him in the hope he will quit? hahaha sounds like they’ve got a bunch of jokers on par with ours ruling the roost.

    How are they going to make him quit exactly? Apply the clockwork orange eyelid opener uperers and make him watch a pardew training session maybe? Who knows…

    The plot thickens

  • 268 Jail for Ashley // Feb 3, 2014 at 8:08 PM

    blackley,
    I think you being older should act with a little more maturity and apologize as necessary.
    He may well have started this season with an improved squad and the results have shown that, but as I’ve said the squad certainly isn’t any stronger as we were at least five players short last January and five players have since left since, and you cannot say he wasn’t totally hung out to dry that seadon we finished fifth.
    I hope you know my stance on the silver tongued lothario before you go accusing me of something I’m not.

  • 269 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    Ibiza I used to disagree fundamentally with the dynamic duo of troy and big dave. Big dave couldn’t hack it when I would satire their views. They liked to give it out but couldn’t take it. Dave controlled the blog hammer and used it.

  • 270 Benotoon // Feb 3, 2014 at 8:42 PM

    I don’t know slagging off the current regime is very helpful. The facts are as follows: 1) Since 1970, the season after we last won something, we had spent 26 seasons in the top flight and 10 seasons out of it before Ashley bought the club. During that time our average top flight league placing was about 11th. So, there’s been no decline in our fortunes under Ashley. 2) We’ve always been a club willing to sell our best players (Macdonald, McDermott, Kennedy in the 70’s, Waddle, Gascoigne, Beardsley in the 80’s) and only for a short time under Sir John Hall in the mid 1990’s have we shown any ambition. That’s over 20 years ago. The fact that Shepherd squandered the opportunities we had at that time is hardly Ashley’s fault.
    The real decline in our fortunes took place under Shepherd. By the time Ashley took control, we were hocked up to our eyeballs and a Leeds/Portsmouth waiting to happen. Ashley had limited options. He doesn’t have an affinity for the club, unlike Shepherd, so is unlikely to make emotional decisions to keep the fans happy. Why would he? He’s not a fan himself. He’s made some poor decisions (hiring Keegan, Wise, Kinnear, Kinnear again) and clearly doesn’t have the support of the fans. However, if I was a billionaire football club owner risking my own capital, who found myself abused when I turned up to games, despite having taken measures to put the club on a more sustainable footing than it has been for 15 years, I wouldn’t be encouraged to put up any more money.

  • 271 Crawfordladd17 // Feb 3, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    Mike I know sell the crap, send £50million in the summer on 6-7 very good players. Get ride of Mr arsehole Kinnear who knows nothing.

    Or sell the club get £250million and there you go

  • 272 yorkie geordie // Feb 3, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    IT STARTS NOW… Joke In’Ere has resigned!!!!!!!




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