Pardew – I Put Luuk de Jong In At The Deep End


23 year-old Luuk de Jong talked after the Sunderland disaster, and said he had a terrible debut for Newcastle on Saturday, but he meant by that  it was a terrible defeat in which to make your debut for the club.

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Luuk de Jong on Saturday

And Alan Pardew has been interviewed today by Miles Starforth in the Shields Gazette, and he said this about Luuk:

“I felt sorry for Luuk,” “I had to put him right in the deep end.” “Luuk wasn’t expecting him to get half a game, I’m sure.”

“But we’ll get him a game under this belt this week and get him up to speed a little bit. It was a tough game.”

“We’ll see how he is, as he’s played half a game.” “Maybe we’ll keep him out of that and work him on the training ground.”

Alan Pardew and the Newcastle squad need to put in a very good and hard week of training in preparation for the game at Chelsea on Saturday,  and then the home game the following Wednesday against Tottenham.

We don’t expect too many points coming from those two particular games, but Newcastle must get organized and do the best they can in the remaining 14 games of the season to keep us as high in the league table as possible.

They have to prove they were not a one man team earlier in the season.

Luuk looked a bit rusty on Saturday, but that’s to be expected, and he moved well and did have a couple of half chances – and all he needs is a goal to get his career at Newcastle off to a decent start.

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32 comments so far

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #1

    Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 3, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    I have to say, whilst not being a Pardew fan in the slightest, in his recent media comments and interviews he seems the most demoralised and despondent that I have ever seen him. I think the strain of working within these shackles is starting to wear thin for him.

    I think he is complicit in all of it, he knew exactly what he was getting into, but maybe he is finding it tougher than he envisaged. I think the slightest sniff of a different job opportunity he would be gone, providing any club is willing to pay off another 6 years of his contract to Ashley…

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #2

    Sage,
    I’m not sure where the boundaries are between T4C and MAOC, I imagine they will be very closely linked if not part of a number of fan groups organising T4C.

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  • Ciaran

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #3

    Sage

    T4C is a coalition of a number of fans groups who helped facilitate the march rather than one fan group in itself. By getting involved with MAOC you would actively be involved in a process that could see another T4C event in the future – hopefully that clears up any confusion.

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  • Ciaran

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #4

    Lilongwe

    Pretty bang on the money.

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  • 89Norcal

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #5

    There was no way LDJ could be expected to make an impact in a game like that, after being out so long.

    Couldn’t believe people were actually criticizing him on twitter.

    @Lilongwe, those were my thoughts. It’s tricky because there’s no excuse for 3 straight derby losses but on the same token he lost his best player (our playermaker at that) and received no aid in the transfer window.

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  • believeintoon

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #6

    I really pity AP with the recent issues.
    Yes, he also has the responsibility with the derby loss and his stats against Sunderland(1win,3draws,3losses), but how many managers could actually get a good result with losing the best player having huge influence to the team just few days before the biggest game for the club?
    It will definetly effect the rest of the season and players like Debuchy and Sissoko will also think for leaving to a more ambitious club which is the most serious problem.

    I think AP is not the one to be blamed, but the board.
    They are too irresponsible with not answering the questions asked to AP.
    The board has to learn from the past, even the kids can do it.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #7

    ciaran

    thanks, just didn’t know if T4C had their own leaders/members over seeing involvement of others or if just a coalition of them all

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  • sparky55

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #8

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/casino-encounter-offers-footballs-mr-motivator-a-final-throw-of-the-dice-2154765.html

    there you have it boys…a chance encounter in a casino BEFORE he got the newcastle job as written by the independent.

    Pardew claims he has had to sometimes go into casinos because lambias and Ashley often meet in casinos…fair enough some might say…but what was he doing in a casino before he got the job then???

    Maybe it’s because he’s a gambler?

    IMO he’s a cockney low life that has never deserved on merit to be the newcastle manager…he got the job because of a debt and desperation and that’s now coming home to roost.

    What goes round…

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #9

    My oldest was at the game. He said despite the bad display, LDJ had more shots than anyone else, so if that is true then at least he was keen and was trying.

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  • Harley

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #10

    Sparky

    Totally disagree.

    There’s been loads of managers that’ve had spats over the years and squared up to each other on the touch line. Unfortunately pardews words were picked up and made a big deal out of.

    The guy is always superb when addressing the press and speaks with so much passion about the club which he clearly loves.

    The interviewer summoned it up when they said he’s trying to do his job with 1 hand tied behind his back.

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  • Rainrix

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #11

    89Norcal…. Thats fairly standard crack for newcastle fans, writing a player off after one game. I remember when ba 1st joined and had an ineffective half against arsenal he was automatically declared useless.

    Im sure LDJ has talent but I’m concerned about our ability to create chances for him. I guess we’ll have to see how pards decides to have us playing in the next few games.

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  • Ciaran

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #12

    A number of fans groups consulted and got involved with the organisation of the march, however MAOC is the organisation that I would put my stock in as it stands. Through my involvement with T4C I got to know a few of their members and their leadership and I must admit they are an impressive bunch of people with some forthright ideas.

    I’ve just seen their Facebook page and they are inviting fans to tender ideas for future protests, so perhaps they are organising something following this disaster.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #13

    Jail,
    I’d be willing to offer support and assist in any movements or events organised as long as they are thought out and constructive with a clear aim. The march went off well, and was a good building block, none of my prior reservations on it came to pass so it is a promising start.

    Does T4C have anyone in the same business sphere as Keith Harris and his company Seymour Pierce? It would be good to have someone of that ilk who can help look for serious buyers, as without a buyer there is no end game.

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #14

    Bloody hell.

    apparently if someone owes you money, its ok to mentally abuse them and treat them like a whipping boy, and theybare not allowed to defend themselves at all. But apparently it serves them right. Humans are so kind to one another.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #15

    Lil,
    You are a very capable writer, are you going to get behind T4C this time and put some ideas forward.

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  • toon22

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #16

    The easiest protest is to prevent management getting into and out of the ground.
    Finding where the fat mans offices is in london and doing the same down there,simple easy to organize and effective.

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  • 89Norcal

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #17

    Rainrix – It’s truly unfortunate and even worse when certain popular toon accounts retweet that nonsense.

    And I totally agree with chance creation. We were already stunted in the winger department, now we lost our playmaker.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #18

    Rainrix,
    I’m confident LDJ will be a good player for us, but I’m not convinced on him being a good goalscorer. I think he would be a great replacement for Ameobi in the set up we had with Ameobi and Remy playing together. He will offer similar qualities but with that added class and ability. I expect him to chip in with the odd goal, but not a prolific striker.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #19

    ciaran

    i’ll get in touch with them today

    emailed you an idea to pass on at meetings but if they want them on facebook/email i’ll get in touch with them

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #20

    Maybe pardew was given the choice of the thumb screws or managing nufc. Guess hindsight is always 20/20

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  • sparky55

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #21

    Harley…If you honestly think fellow managers call each other a stupid old @ucking cnut to each others face in the heat of battle then you;re way off the mark…yes plenty swearing goes on but nothing that personal and disrespectful…that was well over the line you don’t cross

    Every second word Ferguson said was cnut, but never straight in the face of a fellow manager…doesn’t happen until low-life Pardew crossed the line.

    Just my opinion of course

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #22

    For those who may have found that too subtle…. he is thinking “should have taken the thumb screws”

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #23

    Pardew is starting to get everything he deserves. He went behind CH back to get the job , no matter what lies he tells . His latest interview was a shambles and shows the man for what he is . You know what ? I think he is starting to crumble . More of the same please !

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  • mindshaft

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #24

    To be honest I think Pards is a mid to bottom prem league manager which isn’t that bad a thing if you have Ashley in charge

    Pards / Ashley and Kinnear allegedly agreed that funds where available for up to four players and we targeted Cabella / Grenier – not getting either of them over the line is solely down to Kinnear and Charnley as they are the ones negotiating

    JFK is obviously out of his depth and has no idea about modern day footballers and is more comfortable with a starting 11 of

    Hoff Meister
    Hol Sten / Carl Sperg / Carl Ing / Samual Smith
    Birra Moretti / Bud Weiser / Bud Light / San Miguel
    Red Stripe / John Smith

    Obviously in a 4-4-2 formation

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  • BenbulbenMag

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #25

    Markaccus, true there are probably all kind of restrictive things in his contract about speaking out and walking away, particularly after Fashley got burned by Keegan.

    Sparky, that outburst was not classy, I agree with you. However Pardew has been offered up as a sacrificial goat on far too many occasions and if you read the transcript it’s very obvious that the press are not having a go at him and are asking him “How can you pick yourself up..? It’s quite clear where the perceived fault lies and I though the reply that unfortunately Pardew is the only one that speaks was excellent.

    However i stand by my statement that I think he acts with decorum and class when he is put under the microscope at presss conferences and is asked questions about mattes that to be fair to him, he has no control over.

    Do I always agree with Pardews tactics? No.
    Would I employ different tacttics and drop players that are not performing? Yes.

    Do I think Pardew is a useless manager? No. Do I think that any manager will ever be universally acclaimed and all of their choice of tactics embraced? No.

    That is what makes this sport such a great one to follow, it’s what makes debate with supporters of your own team and others worthwhile. It’s what helps to generate passion and that’s all to the good.

    Personally I do not think we will ever amount to more than a midtable team under Fashley. His business model is too clear. Hi priorities too skewed towards Finance without any emphasis on a high league finish.

    Is that Pardews fault ? Do we blame him for playing the cards he’s been dealt ? Would anyone else make more with what we have and if they did would there be any further investment in players at all or would we rely on the youth team to fill the cracks and gaps completely ?

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #26

    …… no fergie just abused officials instead. Constantly. Almost every game. But thats ok, he didnt owe anyone any money, so we can let him off.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #27

    Jail,
    I responded at post 13.

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  • catchy in norway

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #28

    I may be missing something here ,

    LDJ, if I read the comments on here how is he ment to do well now we have lost our so called auperstar that we carnt live without,

    we have a player that is starting in a new league, he is not match fit, in a team that does not create chances , that is now low in confidence

    too much fuss is being made of the cabaye situation , and not enough of the LDJ one , the kid is on a hiding to nothing ,

    big changes need to take place , soon , from top to bottom

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #29

    Right

    People are now condoning the mental torture and abuse of a man, simply because they DONT THINK he is very nice, and dont like him as a manager. Do these people think that thier attitude is ‘classy’??

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  • sparky55

    Feb 3, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #30

    nope…just opinion and in the heat of battle never resorted to calling a fellow blogger and stupid @ucking old cnut either

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  • wynsleap

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #31

    Pardew – you had to put LDJ in because you had no one else. We should have had another striker in at the last window before we got De Jong.. To keep on playing Shola at any time beggars belief. Blyth Spartans have two better strikers than him. Would any other Premiership club have him in their starting line up?
    Another sad aspect is that there are no exciting strikers in the reserves to come straight in either. Armstrong is too young and Quinn is just making his name. So much for Ashley’s early boasts of having a quality academy coming through with top young players bought from around the world (whatever happened to that?)
    And now they are talking about selling Cisse!
    The bloody club is a shambles and we all know who is ultimately to blame and even though I don’t rate him as a manager (or person) it ain’t Pardew.

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  • firebug666

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #32

    Reading this blog is getting as depressing as watching the makems play NUFC. Those who can’t wait for AP to fail cant wait to see Newcastle fail, because one failier brings about the other. Who is to say that if AP leave or get sacked his replacement would be any better. There are a lot worse managers out there than AP, and MA will not pay for us a better manager. IMHO better the devil you know.

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