Some Of The Performances Really Bemused Me


Some of the performances from Newcastle players on Saturday were just not good enough, and that’s the last time we want to see such a gutless performance from a number of our players and just a terrible combined team performance.

alan pardew 0-3 to sunderland

Alan Pardew – close your eyes – maybe it’s not really happening
But the damage  is done now and we’ve been clobbered at home 3-0 for the second season running and it’s been yet another humiliation.

And when thew club are bringing in some players over the summer we need to get some leaders in who will perform in these important matches and it will not be too much for them.

This is what Alan Pardew said about the game, and he was asked if it was a case of Newcastle players not being motivated enough:

“I have got to be honest, I didn’t think that was the issue today too much.” (that’s a surprise)  “We had some performances today from individual players that really bemused me.”

“Having that moment around the box where you take that little bit extra time and the composure.” “Maybe the pressure of losing the last two played a part today because we certainly rushed possession.”

Whereas at Norwich – and I am only talking about three days ago – we were very composed around the box.”

“Obviously in terms of the league position, we are okay. But today is a blow that is hard to take up here.”  “Football and this particular fixture means so much to the fans,  and it will scar the season for us.”

“But the only thing I can do is prepare the team as best I can for next Saturday, and that’s what I will do.”

Certainly in the last three game the Sunderland players have been a lot more motivated than the Newcastle players, so we have to think that was a part of it.

But remember also, that these three defeats have been inflicted when Sunderland have been in the bottom four of the league in every single one of the last three derby games.

That’s what makes it even worse, and it’s not that they have a good side, although it seems that it’s better  than Newcastle’s.

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194 comments so far

  • catchy in norway

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #1

    what was the score v Norwich ?

    composed yet we did not score , hmmm

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  • catchy in norway

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #2

    if I’m reading this right , pardew is upset because Sunderland did not give his team time to be composed, pick a pass

    take the game v Norwich , we passed the ball in our own half ok

    HBA looked very good

    but Norwich had the clearer chances of the too teams

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  • dubzy

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #3

    Still cant belive AP is 40/1 to get sacked……..Maybe coz he wont!!!!!!! Gutted…..

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  • jordijohnty

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #4

    I dont get to many home games but I would suggest that those that do, pay for nothing while your there. No food, drinks, programs (who buys these in 2014 anyway?) or even beer. Do not visit anywhere else owned by nufc until something changes. I appreciate going to matches is a way of life, but the extras..nah! The strawberry is next door and your right in the city next to loads of places just as willing to take cash off you.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #5

    4jordijohnty
    I get what your saying but he’s outsourced all the catering and club shop so doubt it will effect him to much

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  • jordijohnty

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #6

    he is so damned devious

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #7

    tads

    I feel a sit in is a great way. do it after a 4pm sunday game on sky as pundits stay in the studio and talk for an hour, so they’d see us and acknowledge it more.

    Fans could either stay in seats of go stand/sit on the pitch.

    Print the message on business cards, get 500 for £10, take into the game (easier to sneak in than flyers) and pass them down the rows, that way everyone knows about it, easy enough to do.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #8

    Sage,
    I am a fan of the sit in idea, I suggested it last time round. A sit in would cost Ashley as he would be required to contribute to policing costs, as well as over time for stewards who are forced to stay until fans depart.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #9

    lilongwe

    and providing we stay in the stands, not go on the pitch, no laws are being broke….nothing to say how fast you must leave the ground.

    Imagine the sky sports teams going over the game and previous games with 30/40,000 fans sat chanting behind them, it would get huge coverage and as you say would cost Ashley.

    I know fans won’t stay away in numbers, we have a loyal bunch who sit through anything to support their team, so we should use them, not criticise them for going as some do.

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  • jordijohnty

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #10

    Nigel walker past away, so nearly a toon legend

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  • Scottiedog

    Feb 3, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #11

    Pardew has to go know I am afraid…. He failed at the weekend and not the team IMO, he failed to get the team motivated and the formation was a joke!

    If Swansea do sack Laudrup I think we should go in for him, but knowing this club we will probably just put Kinnear in.

    I think I have finally lost patience with it all……..

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #12

    Sage
    Think a sit in would be fantastic way to put on a peaceful protest

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  • toon22

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #13

    The last time JFK was in charge we went down and he almost died,he may claim he didnt get religated but he left AS with little chance did he.

    If he were to take charge i think MA will be shocked to how sever the reactions going to be,we all now there are enough idiots to cause mayhem.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #14

    tads

    It’s easy as well as a lot of people could be told before or during, depending on how they want to do it and also most have a spare 30mins after a match.

    Could also have those who have boycotted games meet outside after to start chants as well.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #15

    Steve Dixon from previous

    Think most of us know Steven Taylor is about as useful as a chocolate teapot

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  • ErnestHemingway

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #16

    That’s settled then, sit in protest it is.

    Who’s gonna organise it?

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #17

    Sage
    Like you said its easy enough, especially with social media

    And it’s easy enough to look through the fixtures and find a high profile televised match

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #18

    Ernest

    MAOC have asked fans for opinions and ideas, I emailed them today, just waiting for them to get back to me.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #19

    Why does every defeat have to be the end of the world ?
    Poyet got his players more fired up – what a surprise!!!
    Di Canio did too last year and he’s now fishing in Lake Como out of a job.
    There’s more to being an EPL manager than winning the odd cup game or derby match.
    They should change the name from “the Toon Army ” to “the Knee Jerks”

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  • catchy in norway

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #20

    I also think that a sit in is the way to go

    and mark, my opinion about pardew the man and pardew the manager are 2 very different things

    I have nothing against him as a man, and I even think he would be a good guy to drink with, listening to his stories,

    I just think that as a manager, he has not cut the mustard, I don’t see any of the skills needed to be a good manager, I think the league is filled with guys just like him, that for some reason still get jobs in and around the same clubs,

    and as far as him being dignified, telling the press and anyone else what they want to hear, is not being dignified. that’s called paying lip service

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #21

    tads

    spot on, like i say if we have a 4pm kick off on tv that’s the best. Sky go to the second 4pm kick off to present both shows on sunday usually so they’d spend a good hour after with all us sat behind them, you’d see from the studio.

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  • The next Mike Williamson

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #22

    even without Cabaye, Colo, Gouff, & Remy our players are as good as the Sunderland ones, and playing at home we should have won. This is the 4th time he’s been outsmarted by Poyet and the 4th time he’s tried using the same crap tactics to win. All Pards ever does is try to “over-run the midfield.” His tactics simply boil down to having more men in the middle than the opposition, getting everyone to track back, and hitting it long. Sh*t 80’s tactics from a sh*t 80’s player.

    Shola had one of his best games ever, but was awful. He doesn’t even make attempts at getting in positions.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #23

    jeff from benwell

    that line only works so many times and many people use it

    how can it be a reaction to ‘just one game’ when people are saying these things every week, it adds up every time. This isn’t a knee jerk to one game, people have looked at Pardew’s 3 years and Ashleys 7 years and decided they want better.

    Fair enough if you are happy or disagree, but it’s not ‘just one game’ that’s caused this.

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  • kt97toonarmy

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #24

    Pardew says its scarred our season. Clearly he dosent know what this derby means. It was my first derby at SJP. its scarred me forever

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  • catchy in norway

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #25

    Jeff from Benwell

    I think you have to ask yourself if your on the right site

    1 derby win in his time here
    1 draw in his time here
    4 lost in his time here

    that’s hardly knee jerk is it

    what most football fans want

    win the league
    win the/a cup
    beat there local rivals

    1 the team is not good enough
    2 the owner wont let us do cups
    3 our manager has failed 5 times in the one thing that he is in charge of, 5 out of 6

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  • mindshaft

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #26

    We were a bit unlucky not to score against Norwich whereas against Sunderland we never even looked like scoring
    Krul, Santon, Shola and Anita were truly sh!t whereas everyone else was just sh!t

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  • The next Mike Williamson

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #27

    I hate Pardew but I see the logic in keeping him: stability & when we next look for a manager it will be an appealing job as they know they will get job security and time to build a team. I’d keep him another year or two, build up a massive transfer kitty, then try to get a world class passing manager in. Unfortunately we’ve missed Martinez & Poyet.

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  • ErnestHemingway

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #28

    The next Mike Williamson

    That isn’t going to happen under this mob.

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #29

    Catchy

    thats fair enough. You have no sympathy with the hardships he has that comes with managing nufc, but at least you are not actively wishing the mental abuse on him, that a few others are. The guy is obviously in a position where he CAN’T walk, otherwise i believe he would have by now.

    As for the sit in protest, i think that is probably the best, most viable option anyone has come up with. I would even condone my oldest son joining in, if he so wished (he is 16 and can form his own views so i would not try to oppress him either way).

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  • hibbit

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #30

    fans wont miss games most have paid at the start of the season if you can get the fans to go in late not before kick off the police wont like it health and safety wont like it the fa wont like it as ref will have to delay ko but if its a sky game they will not be happy as any delays affect them more with other programs and they pay big money for these games wont be happy have the sit in then

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  • outside the box

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #32

    now the dust has settled,….whats the response
    1)supporters clubs need to take action against ashley …find out where he is or is going to be and protest..(dont give 14 days notice)but inform press…
    2)find jokingkinnear and get him to talk into microphone ..
    3)protest to media ..the local are not doing enough..ie as mag reported 48000 were booing pardue …
    all protests should be against ashley …support the toon

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  • outside the box

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #33

    at 3) meant to agree with the mag ….they seem to be the only media in line with the true fans

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  • Brazilianbob

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #34

    Knowing Ashley, if there is a sit in he will simply order the floodlights turned off so the fans are left sitting in darkness and the media cant see how many have staged the sit in.

    The club will then issue a statement saying it was only a handfull of disgruntled fans who could not be considered to be representative of the entire fanbase.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #35

    markaccus

    Whats the point in having kids if you can’t oppress them? haha

    But in all seriousness a sit in is going to be peaceful, if people won’t leave then nothing they can really do, don’t give them notice before the game, pass out little flyers/business card sized (easy to take 1/2000 in your pocket) pass them around and see who stays.

    Also we need the local journo’s to get on the attack as they are banned, try to generate some support for these movements, dig dirt on sports direct suppliers/labour in far east, look into the land he is selling off, do the same with our main sponsors….really hit him hard from all angles.

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  • LocalZero

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #36

    I think a sit in at a Sky game is a great idea, if you want to have an impact (personally I don’t especially agree with that we’d necessarily be better off with Pardew or Ashley out – I know that’s controversial on here). Also, we all know the chant would be “you f*t Cockney B***ard”, which is totally out of order. I couldn’t get behind that. Without the fans having any dignity, then we’ll be divided.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #37

    local zero

    We’d have to plan chants with supporters groups people would approve of, try to stick to them.

    Also we might not be better, we could get a mad man in who makes it worse….but this lack of ambition isn’t good enough and needs to be stopped I feel. A new owner is worth a gamble.

    I don’t like people taking advantage of others and that’s what Ashley is doing. We have loyal fans, stand by the team through thick or thin, he knows that all to well.

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #38

    T sage

    I keep mine locked in the cellar (NOT a la fritzel)

    I agree there needs to be some press in on this, although the last ban they got was their own stupid fault, because they failed to do an objective report on the protests, and instead used it as a tool to have 13 pages of anti-ashley vitriol, which, while mostly agreed with, was an irresponsible way to do it. It could ONLY have ended in a ban. Idiots

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  • mag

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #39

    Kinnear won’t be offered the managers job at NUFC his health problems rule him out, we are stuck with Pardew until he either walks or Ashley decides to sell up both scenarios are never going to happen anytime soon so it’s business as usual.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #40

    markaccus

    I feel sorry for the local press, papers are difficult to sell with online news these days and they have a difficult balance between writing what fans/readers want and keeping the club on side….i don’t envy their position.

    I hope they can go all guns blazing now though and really get on board.

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