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Alan Shearer On Joe Kinnear Dismissal

12:35 am, Tuesday, February 4th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 144 Comments

The news that Joe Kinnear has resigned from Newcastle United broke about 11:00 pm tonight, when Newcastle announced it on the Newcastle web-site.

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Alan Shearer – hopes it’s not for health reasons

Initial reactions are coming in, and this is what Newcastle icon Alan Shearer had to say about it, as he talked to Match of the Day 2 last night:

“I always say nothing should surprise you in football, certainly not with Newcastle anyway, but I was very surprised with his appointment in the first place.”

“Particularly with the way it was announced, with the way Joe himself announced it on the radio.”  “He got all those names wrong, after being out of the game for so long…it was a strange appointment in the first place, but I’m not surprised.”

“When you sell your best player as you did three days before the deadline, you have to have a plan.” “You have to have someone ready to come in. There was talk about Cabaye going to PSG anyway, so there had to be a plan there.”

“Whether that’s Newcastle’s way of saying, he didn’t do his job, he didn’t bring players in… but I hope it’s not ill health, I hope he’s OK there, but I’m not sure what his job was there anyway at Newcastle.”

We also hope it’s not bad health,  as Joe has had a weak heart for a long time now, and it was one reason he couldn’t continue as Newcastle manager back in 2009.

But the timing is such that this seems a statement that he couldn’t get the job done, and we had the strange sight over the weekend of Alan Pardew trying to defend the club,  on what was a disastrous failure not to bring in a replacement for Yohan Cabaye last week.

And Joe proved immediately he was not cut out to be an executive anywhere, as he pr-announced his appointment last June – before Newcastle had even got around to announcing it on their web-site – and that was done the next day.

But it had ramifications, as Managing Director Derek LLambias also resigned in protest of the appointment.

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144 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Sydney Toon // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:35 AM

    Repost:
    About time!
    To me, IMO, this is the same as Llambias situation, both didn’t do the jobs they were asked to do, both failed, more so Kinnear than Llambias. Kinnear was pushed, surely!
    Now comes the interesting next few days. Has a replacement been lined up and knowing Ashley’s past, there will be somebody lined up.
    There are some great Football CEO’s out there and also great DoF out there.
    The obvious comes to mind would be Nicola Cortese, but where would that leave Pardew?
    Just a slight left field option… Would Carr be appointed to DoF, he has the experience and respect of Ashley and Pardew?
    Will Pardew get full control, which appears to be the easiest option, one that makes Ashley nervous but ultimately brings 1 person accountable not a few.

  • 2 2_goal_tino // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:36 AM

    This is the only good that has come from the past month.

    Ashley has undoubtedly forced Kinnear out! Remember last January, Ashley was frustrated with the lack of signings and took a hands on approach and was directly involved in that spell of 4 signings in 5 days. His frustration with transfer inactivity was why Llambias left.

    Also disagree with Ed saying the next appointment should be a local or a former player. It should be the best person for the job … I’d welcome back Chris Mort but he won’t come back to football, Nicola Cortese is available….

  • 3 pawl250 // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:39 AM

    Al it was eating pies on his fat lazy a$$

  • 4 Finnbad The Sailor // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:39 AM

    While this appears to be good news. It’s to little to late, this other than probably silencing some of the begrudgings of the fand has still left us reet up shits creek for the remainder of the season in terms of no creative presence in midfield due to the departure of Cabaye, however I am quite glad Marveux had found his way back into the side because I really like him as a player.

  • 5 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:40 AM

    I wouldn’t be suprised if he replaced Kinnear with Niall Quin.

    You know what he is like.

  • 6 Graeme // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:42 AM

    If Ashley can appoint a “football figure” one who is respected in the game, somebody he can trust to look after his interests, who really knows how a football club works, what it needs, then we may have just turned a major corner to becoming the club we should be.

    One can but live in hope!!!!!

  • 7 DENIro // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:43 AM

    I’m afraid that he will be menager from tomorow…

  • 8 Graeme // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:45 AM

    To be honest, Niall Quin wouldn’t be such a stupid choice – if Ashley trusts him. He knows what is needed and could do the job. The fact he was Chairman down the road wouldnt bother me at all.

  • 9 kevymartins // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:46 AM

    Why is people assuming that MA pushed him out? For all we know JFK was trying to do his job and was told the funds were not available and due to the fans taking it out on him for doing the job he couldn’t do iin the first place he resigned.

  • 10 2_goal_tino // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:48 AM

    @Finnbad – As soon as we lost to Cardiff, our season was going to be over, either way, after last Saturday. Win or lose, with Cabaye or without, we would have coasted to the end of the season. Champs league was never going to happen and the only people who want Europa are the fans.

  • 11 Ibizatoon // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:49 AM

    I echo many others thoughts, let’s see what happens next.

    Being cynical, this does play in to the theory of having foot soldiers to take the blows on Ashleys behalf.

    I suppose it comes down to, is Ashley naive when he hires these people or are these people hired to do as they have and only have a limited shelf life?

    New beginnings buy you time.

    Still, cynical hat off, Kinnears gone, there is room for improvement. Shock me Ashley…please.

  • 12 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:49 AM

    TADS

    Good on him if he was. Question is, who was at fault for the last two windows? Ashley, JFK or both of them? Make a proper appointment and have a good summer window and maybe Ashley can regain some credibility.

    Aha…maybe that’s his master plan…plumb the depths with JFK, then improve things quickly once he’s gone and make out that it was JFK’s fault he whole time…the relegation, the last two windows…all down to JFK.

    Expect Ashley or his new DoF to broker deals for Grenier, Cabella and Remy in the next few weeks…

    :-)

  • 13 kevymartins // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:49 AM

    It sounds like Carr fits the bill 100% but does he really? he is amazing at being a scout as being out of the country looking at talent so maby it’s not for him.

  • 14 manxpie // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:52 AM

    deniro jesus i’m just waiting for the next announcement on sky sports “pardew has been released from his duties as newcastle manager”

    and then a talksport exclusive interview from kinnear “yeah thats right i’m fuskin manager or newcarstle united ya kernts! stick that up ya ducks arse!”

    why after bringing us such good news do SPN have to have them inbreads on gloating!!!

  • 15 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 4, 2014 at 12:59 AM

    TDS
    Yep Ashley has big call to make, let’s hope he gets it right for once

    Not holding my breath yet though, as it stands at this moment we have a disgruntled manager and no one planning for the summer

    First order of business if we actually get a competent DOF must surely be getting some if the players contracts sorted and working on replacing the dead wood?

  • 16 Ibizatoon // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:02 AM

    Have to say, the “The Club will be making no further comment.” part has me thinking that little has changed.

    Will we have to assume what’s going on again? Why the constant smoke and mirrors. It simply causes more distrust.

    This should be a happy moment for fans, yet here we have another example of how low things have sunk.

  • 17 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:03 AM

    Well what great news this is!

    It would be interesting to hear the real reasons behind the resignation, but as Belfast rightly pointed out, this then takes away some of the scared factor of him taking over from the tactical numb skull which is Mr. Pardew.

    Maybe it is because Ashley’s media buffer has served his purpose to the final transfer window before he sells the club.

    Maybe he just genuinely wasn’t good at his job anyway and was offered to resigm instead of being sacked.

    Maybe the silver tongued one has been using Kinnear as his latest excuse for his shocking approach to football systems and has helped to edge him out.

    There are lots more reasons, obviously.

    He’s gone though, which is better than him staying, so that’s a start. As long as Lambeezy keeps away too. Just Ashley and Mr. Dense to go before we can start to move forward.

  • 18 TurkishFan101 // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:05 AM

    Lads, if we get Nicola Cortese in.. What a great impact he would be.

  • 19 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:08 AM

    Hopefully he has just resigned to keep well away and not to be designated a new role…

  • 20 ONLINE GUY // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:08 AM

    Ashley was having dinner with Clive Allen and pals at the weekend, they were having a right nosh up in the
    York and Albany…Camden Town..Glenn Hoddle was also sighted.

  • 21 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:09 AM

    Hoddle was in the feeding frenzy with the obese one was he?

  • 22 manxpie // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:11 AM

    laurent yeah its shocking to see us still at 8th after a bad run of form absolutely shocking and his systems that got us there even more so!!
    i bet jose is thinking the same tonight!??

  • 23 lesh // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:11 AM

    Bet Pardew’s cracked a bottle or two last night!

  • 24 manxpie // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:15 AM

    courtise is an absolute no chance!

    sorry but didn’t he spend 40 odd mill on osvaldo, ramirez and wanyama!??

    lets face it its not exactly ashley’s style is it!

  • 25 potski // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:17 AM

    Repost

    Hilarious. So all of these “theories” spouted over and over ad nauseum for months, and even being given yesterday by several posters to back up their opinions (which they don’t accept are opinions) that Mikey intended to replace Alan with Joe all the time, and he was only brought in as DoF to piss off Alan to avoid paying him compensation and/or to piss off fans is proven to be the biggest BS ever.

    C’mon let’s see the verbal diarrhoea trying to explain this one:)

  • 26 lesh // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:21 AM

    Bon news for Ibiza eh – Bartender, four tequila slammers for the guy that’s signing and dancing on the table in tge corner.

    Ibiza, there’s nothing sinister about this resignation – Kinnear’s been sacked.

    Look at the club statement again and in particular“The Club will be making no further comment”

    You can’t have missed the absence of the usual ‘we’d like to thank him etc and ‘wish him well’, the usual courtesies when a parting’s been fairly amicable.

    The absence of the nicities speaks volumes!

  • 27 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:22 AM

    Manx, it’s lucky for him that he has players like Remy and Cabaye who are skilled at shooting outside the box. He has no clue how to formulate an offensive plan in the final third.

    We’ve kept the ball on the floor more this year, but that shouldn’t come with a medal and high fives. We play ok for patches of games, sometimes even 45 minutes, but still not in the final third.

    We can look hard to break down, yes, and decent at times in our third and the middle third, but with the amount of players the negative one has back defending, so we should.

    Anyway, his outside the box shooters are out, so we’ll be sinking like a ship now.

    There’s is no real point to finishing 8th whatsoever if we aren’t playing attacking football, in my opinion. You may like containing football all year round, I certainly don’t. It is not in the spirit of the game.

    Poyet showed Pardew how it should be done and did so with vastly poorer players at the bottom of the league.

    That is coaching and philosophy.

  • 28 lesh // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:27 AM

    The fact that Ashley’s been posted on eBay can’t have helped Kinnear’s cause.

    Well done the advertiser – you’ll get some serious feedback ratings. Mind yet fees are gonna be high given the £150k plus bidding!

  • 29 manxpie // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:28 AM

    laurent quite simply tell me the attacking players we’ve got especially wingers!!?
    unless you want ober and sammi playing every game of course!!?

    but go on tell me the attacking options pardews got that will get us to top 4!

  • 30 manxpie // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:32 AM

    and btw did you watch chelsea tonight?
    jose is the best man in using this set up in the league especially making every player defend when they need to and to get forward when they need to

    now pardew hasn’t just got half the 1st team at least in terms of quality but squad!!

  • 31 ronjohno // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:37 AM

    As Cortese was the one who sacked Pardew from Southampton I say get him in.

  • 32 nightfa11 // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:39 AM

    “carr is a scout”..is he really? i mean..in todays world u dont need a scout (unless youre scouting africa)..he identifies players who are all over french & dutch press..top players in those leagues.. i think carr’s advantage is good relations with those clubs..french & dutch “football people”.. not scouting for players half a europe knows they’re already good (internationals ffs:D)..

  • 33 manxpie // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:40 AM

    oh and laurent poyet had the difference
    only by a player that had a final ball if u watched sunderland they passed around there 1st 3rd most of the game and had 1 player who put a good ball in and i’d love the geordie here at he’s exactly wat we are missing
    the ammount of final passes we messed up is down to the players full stop!!
    anita arfa sissko sammi are all to blame and shola for not doing wat he did earlier in the season plus santon for being a headless tit

  • 34 jimmysmith // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:41 AM

    A week at NUFC is a long time, but even by our calamitous capacities, what a week it has been.

  • 35 jimmysmith // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:47 AM

    I think its time to commit NUFC to a home for the bewildered for nice long rest, while we focus our attentions on the run in to the league title, the ever excellent champions league and the joy of the World Cup finals. For the sake of our ongoing health and happiness.

    It’s becoming a mental health issue.

  • 36 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 4, 2014 at 1:54 AM

    There is alot of bashing going on for Ashley and Pardew and rightly so. One man is the owner and the other is the manager that is fair criticism. Of course it is.

    But let’s not distract ourselves from how poor those players actually played on Saturday.

    They were shocking.

    These are individual professional footballers that are paid a great deal of money to represent the football club. That performance was not on.

    Nevermind just tactics and motivation as a cause, that can only go so far. These players should not even need motivating for such an encounter if the truth be known. It’s the Tyne Wear derby for gods sake. Most of the players have seen it before and experienced it already.

    The performance of these individuals was bad. They all have their own responsibilities and jobs and they did not do them at the weekend.

    The team we had out was poor. We had are better players out with injury, Gouffran and Remy and we had lost Cabaye.

    We all know Shola and Sammy and I think we can all say we don’t see them as Premier League footballers.

    Ben Arfa has been hit and miss all season as has mostly everybody else.

    The blame sits with everyone. Not just one person.

    Ashley, Pardew, coaching staff and the PLAYERS.

    For me they all take equal responsibility for Saturday.

    That’s how poor it all was from the top of the club to bottom.

  • 37 benjohnsen // Feb 4, 2014 at 2:00 AM

    To all Pardew haters.

    Remember the glory days of Big Sam, Grame Souness, Glen Roeder and Joe Kinnear. No? I do. I miss those days when the ball went fast through the middle and our passing game was excellent. When we outplayed the top teams. Not to forget all the good players we had as well. Michael Owen, Nicky Butt, Geremi and Viduka to name a few. The technical ability these showed was from another planet.

    Wake up so called fans!!!!! Newcastle haven’t had such a promising team since Bobby Robson’s days. We are unstable, but our top level is very high. The way we beat Chelsea, Man United, Tottenham. Lost marginally to Man City and Arsenal. Think about it.

    Pardew didn’t get the manager of the year by coincidence. He deserved it. When he has a good team he deliver. Unfortunately, he can’t point in the candy store like some of his colleagues in the PL with almost unlimited budget to get a top team.

    This summer we need new center back, two forwards and a class midfielder. Let’s see what happens and lets stay positive.

  • 38 wolfshead@toon // Feb 4, 2014 at 2:02 AM

    ben

    its a bit early in the morning for sarcasm haha

  • 39 RonVanDam // Feb 4, 2014 at 2:20 AM

    Heres why the club should be preparing for summer signings.

    We are 8 points away from safety

    Tell the players who no longer have a future at the club that they will be released at the end of the season. This will trigger them to work harder to fight for a new contract within the club or draw attention from other clubs. As a result – help us climb the PL ladder and achieve safety

    Go over the winter transfer list provided by Carr and start enquiring now. The earlier we get players in the next window, the better chance for the players to settle and help us push for that CL spot

    Do not appoint Carr as DOF. He’s better off as a scout. Get someone reputable with vast football knowledge (maybe a retired scout or Shearer.

    Stop capping players in the transfer market at 10m. Sometimes spending more on a quality player actually gives the whole team a morale boost.

    Freshen up the coaching staff. Maybe get a creative/attacking Assistant Manager will help.

  • 40 p // Feb 4, 2014 at 2:21 AM

    I wonder if mash even really even knows whats going on at the toon. maybe he is too busy trying to make zillions elsewhere he just delegated.

    Suddenly he finds out we are doing sh@#% again and fires jfk, maybe pards and charnley of whatever his name is are next

  • 41 Ibizatoon // Feb 4, 2014 at 2:27 AM

    p….Maybe indeed. Wouldn’t it be refreshing if for once he actually just came out and told us rather than leaving us to guess?

  • 42 p // Feb 4, 2014 at 2:29 AM

    Yes, as well as showing us a newly tatooed toon badge on his chest

  • 43 Ibizatoon // Feb 4, 2014 at 2:31 AM

    p…You may want to see his chest…I’ll be happier with the explanation :)

  • 44 p // Feb 4, 2014 at 2:34 AM

    Flabby man boobs and gut withstanding, you have to admit a toon badge tatooed on mash’s chest would be encouraging

  • 45 Cabyebye // Feb 4, 2014 at 2:47 AM

    Come on lads, we knew from the get go that JFK was going to be the fall guy, he would take the heat for no signings and be happy as larry with his pay check.

    This is definitely a calculated move with the guise of appeasing fans given we haven’t signed anyone in two years.

    I hope I’m wrong, but then again – who the hell would want the job as DOF of NUFC under MA???!
    No one worth their salt I reckon.

  • 46 Ibizatoon // Feb 4, 2014 at 2:51 AM

    p…You had me at flabby man boobs mate.

    Cabyebye…Come on now, it may have taken him 5/6 years, but Ashley is finally getting the picture. Ha, couldn’t even type it with a straight face.

  • 47 theartfuldodger // Feb 4, 2014 at 3:35 AM

    Accordig to me, His appointment and resignation was all pre-planned last summer. Ashley knew he wouldnt be getting in anyone significant this year.

    As many others have said his next appointment will speak volumes.
    Does he hire someone good and proven, or does he go with one of his lesser-known buddies.

  • 48 Expat MAG // Feb 4, 2014 at 3:43 AM

    Kinnear should never have been put in this position to start with and believe he was only there to act as a buffer for Ashley. However, even if Kinnear was competent enough to do the DOF job, I believe was never given the finance to bring in new players due to Ashley’s restrictions……

    As for the future, who in there right mind would take over this poison chalice without obtaining guarantees from Ashley they would be given full backing to do a job.

    I hope Ashley surprises us by bringing in a well respected, professional DOF replacement, but he’s never done himself proud with appointments to date, so I’m not holding my breath….

  • 49 theartfuldodger // Feb 4, 2014 at 3:52 AM

    People think Llambias dint do his job and was forced out.
    Was his replacement Joe expected to do the job ably ?

    His next appointment will answer that question.
    Get in a capable person and it shows ashley expected kinnear to do well, only to be fed up by these new ppl with no proven track record.

    Get in an unknown and it means ashley doesent care. He dint expect kinnear to do well and nor does he expect the new guy to.

  • 50 NOVA2967 // Feb 4, 2014 at 3:55 AM

    resigned from what…
    can’t judge him since he didn’t sign anyone…

  • 51 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 4, 2014 at 4:13 AM

    Something is very wrong with our club. Good riddance to Kinnear. He made a mockery of our club.

    Whatever it is, i will not wish him ill health. Hope he retires and lives somewhere comfortably.

  • 52 theartfuldodger // Feb 4, 2014 at 4:19 AM

    Its funny how no one knows whats happening at the club.
    Why kinnear came in,why he left…

    And all the fans are making up theories of what might have happened.

    Thats one more question for Pardew to answer…
    Have you noticed how he never says Ask Mike Ashley…

  • 53 JAMSHA // Feb 4, 2014 at 4:26 AM

    hahaha jst woke an saw kinnear gone…. now hope to ashely gone by tomoro

  • 54 Klatoon // Feb 4, 2014 at 4:30 AM

    1 down…2 to go…

  • 55 the fan // Feb 4, 2014 at 4:33 AM

    could he be clearing the way for a new manager who wont work under a dof.

  • 56 Sydney Toon // Feb 4, 2014 at 4:37 AM

    I don’t know how some are saying that Ashley planned this from the get go, that JK was used as a pawn to deflect blame to Ashley… Im sorry but I cannot understand that logic at all! Why would a self made billionare put an investment as a football club, a 280m investment, at risk by playing silly games with supporters?? Honestly people, wake up to yourselves!
    Its the same way the Llambias left, voluntary or by mutual consent. In other words, they were pushed/nudged.
    Its how a business operates, remember NUFC is a brand, its a operating business that provides sporting entertainment! Therefore, it will operate as a business and when an employee does not perform, is a disruption to the team environment or quite simply is an incapable employee, they are released! Same as any player that doesn’t perform, he doesn’t play, gets frozen out then is sold to the highest bidder or any bidder for that matter. It is JK’s job to bring players to the club. He brought in De Jong but could not replace Cabaye. In fact, if it was known that Cabaye was leaving, is it not JK’s fault that a replacement was not signed before Cabaye leaving?? In the case of Grenier, he didn’t want to come because he was going to be a replacement, you bring him in earlier and he sees that he is a valuable player, then Cabaye leaves, giving him added responsibility.

  • 57 Santon03 // Feb 4, 2014 at 4:54 AM

    Sydney

    I completely agree with you. MA just didn’t know much about football world like others do, he wouldn’t know where to start if he gets involved.
    So he picked people he knows who know football, sadly wrong people for the job. He just doesn’t have the knowledge, he doesn’t have the time to spend planning devious plans to F@cked up the supporters, you have to remember he is a businessman and he needs supporters to run this football club, supporters are the main income and anger the customers (supporters) are bad for business. The one who said he has planned this to anger the NUFC fans are stupid or mackems trying to destroy this club.
    He just have NO KNOWLEDGE, he doesn’t know where to begin if he is directly involved and I don’t think he concentrate 100% only to this football club since he has many other investments.
    I’m pretty sure generally he is smarter than me and most people here since he has been successful in his investments and made billions.

  • 58 Cabyebye // Feb 4, 2014 at 5:24 AM

    @Sydney & Santon
    MA is not an idiot (cunning and slimey, yes) – he is a self made billionaire as you said. You don’t become a self made billionaire without looking out for number 1 and certainly not by putting your friends into positions like DOF without some fucking thought put into it.
    An intelligent person does not put an idiot like Kinnear in the limelight without having thought it out first.
    Can you not see the contradiction in what you’re saying??

    Have you followed MA’s antics at all?? Look at what he was doing with renaming SJP, for f****g publicity!! Two fingers to the fans, more than just “silly games”!

    MA wants a return on his investment he doesn’t give two f***s about the “brand”, why would he? If he wanted to promote the brand he would allow the club to have ambition in terms of signing players & success in competitions.

    He will milk NUFC for as much money as possible before offloading it.

  • 59 cyprus // Feb 4, 2014 at 5:35 AM

    Poor JFK,
    Came in with a bang, left from the back door. But, he was never equipped for the job. Players are convinced by charismatic and enthusiastic people. He is the latter but not the former.
    Now, maybe it’s time for AP to ‘resign’. Ultimately, it is he who has a pretty useful group in his hands and it is up to him to get them going. Has he failed? Yes, in that we continue to be consistently inconsistent: we could get spanked by Chelsea, we could win. It’s that crazy. However, we’ve played better, at times, than in our 5th finish season, when we entirely depended on moments of brilliance.
    According to the real 5 year plan (not Ed’s xmas wish) we should be challenging for everything by 2015. Could that happen? Well maybe. Under AP? Maybe not.

  • 60 Sydney Toon // Feb 4, 2014 at 5:42 AM

    Santon
    Very true when Ashley bought the club, he relied on Mort and things went well. He got a manager in Allardyce who was, at the time, highly sought after. He has employed the wrong people for the club, which on other occasions other clubs have got it wrong as well, I mean look at Liverpool bringing in Comolli and Dalgleish!
    However, I think Ashley has been around long enough to know what an ideal replacement would be and hopefully he is finally listening to Carr and Pardew more now. Pardew may not be the best Manager we have had, but he has voiced a few times that he would prefer to have control of transfers. Maybe this is his chance, come to think of it, the whole “I will now have to rebuild the squad again” comment last week may have been a hint to what has transpired over the past few days.
    I might be clutching at straws here but I think we will see a new CEO brought in and perhaps Ashley will seek advice from others on who that shall be. I think this thread or the last one, somebody mentioned Hoddle having dinner with Ashley, perhaps Hoddle is our new DoF??
    Who knows!! But we await in excitement and FEAR at the same time!

  • 61 cyprus // Feb 4, 2014 at 5:44 AM

    Hoddle is in Qatar…

  • 62 Cabyebye // Feb 4, 2014 at 5:45 AM

    @Sydney
    “I don’t know how some are saying that Ashley planned this from the get go, that JK was used as a pawn to deflect blame to Ashley”
    -
    You said it yourself, MA is a self made billionaire and an intelligent person. A businessman who has had the level of success that he has, does so by looking out for number 1 & having the base intelligence to not simply put someone into a position of power (see DOF) simply because he knows the guy!
    MA being the smart man that he is, would have the cop on to know EXACTLY what he was doing by putting Kinnear in the limelight.

    ” Why would a self made billionare put an investment as a football club, a 280m investment, at risk by playing silly games with supporters??”
    -
    You are aware that he renamed SJP to publicize his business to the outrage of supporters, right?
    What the hell do you call that? You thought that was acceptable as a supporter??? He is a business man who wanted some publicity at the expense of people who care about the club – how could you be so naive to believe that he wouldn’t stoop if he felt it was in his best interests? He simply wants to maximize his profits it’s what he does for chrissakes; it’s all he knows and he would happily do it at the expense of the “brand” given half the opportunity.

    ” In fact, if it was known that Cabaye was leaving, is it not JK’s fault that a replacement was not signed before Cabaye leaving?? ”
    -
    I’m certain that even someone of even JK’s ineptitude could have made a signing if he had been given enough money to make a reasonable bid for a decent player. To lay the blame on him entirely is to ignore the obvious.

    @Santon
    “The one who said he has planned this to anger the NUFC fans are stupid or mackems trying to destroy this club.”
    -
    Again, MA doesn’t care about the Fans, his actions alone prove this. Not that he plans to anger the fans, he plans to line his pockets by any means.

    “He just have NO KNOWLEDGE, he doesn’t know where to begin if he is directly involved and I don’t think he concentrate 100% only to this football club since he has many other investments.
    I’m pretty sure generally he is smarter than me and most people here since he has been successful in his investments and made billions.”
    -
    Again, smart enough to become a self made billionaire but willing to put 280m on the line when he knows “no knowledge” & “Doesnt know where to begin”.
    Does that sound like the sort of investment a business savvy entrepeneur would make? No – reason being is that he knew he was getting a cash cow in the NUFC supporters, regardless of whats happening in the upper echelons NUFC supporters will continue to bring in revenue as they are fiercely loyal and love their club.
    He would happily exploit this loyalty for his own profit – why else would a business man who has no knowledge of football invest that much money in a club and introduce such strict austerity?

    Seriously, think for yourself now and again mate.

  • 63 Sydney Toon // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:09 AM

    Cabybye
    Of course he looks after himself, like any normal human being does, they look after themselves. He put Kinnear in charge, fair enough a sh** appointment! He tried going back to the original model, bad decision ultimately, however if JK actually signed Grenier or Cabella, of heaven forbid both, would we still be screaming for his head. Maybe there was no funds available, maybe there was. Would Pardew put his neck out on the line for JK if he didn’t feel there was funds to bring a replacement and a striker? Hardly!! He spoke about it many times of bringing 1-2 players in. He didn’t lie, we brought 1 player in! JK lied about Cabaye leaving! Like I said, Ashley would have sanctioned the sale of Cabaye, a prized asset, if he was trusting JK in bringing in a replacement in. The fact he trusted a close friend to do the job is in no way a bad thing, hell my best mate would not be a director for a company if I had not recommended him!
    I don’t think Ashley is a great owner, but I honestly doubt, being in senior management of a successful construction firm in Sydney, that he would specifically endanger his brand, his name or his investments because of a quick buck. It never works!
    Its simple to me, he appointed somebody he thought was capable of doing the job, saw no results, another trusted members of his staff, Carr and Pardew, have obviously severely given Ashley a piece of their minds, Ashley has seen the evidence first hand, we are weaker without Cabaye, although only 8 points from Safety, knowing full well the risk a few injuries will definitely endanger any chance of being Top 10 by seasons close, he has pushed Kinnear aside. Giving the new DoF/MD a chance to rebuild and strategise for the summer. Perhaps giving Pardew the chance to start rebuilding now, who knows! But in the business world, you don’t mess with your clients to make a quick buck! Plenty of clubs out there, not many supporters!

  • 64 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:09 AM

    Cabyebye,
    Well said, as I wrote in an earlier post I hope that we find out what’s happened other wise all we have are pro and anti Ashley theories, I don’t know why some are so quick to assume that he was pushed as the fat man wants someone better, it is much more likely that the blithering idiot didn’t realise how much he’d been set up to fail and couldn’t handle the level of abuse about to be hurled his way.

  • 65 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:21 AM

    Sydney,
    Firstly we are a massive fifteen points from safety, it will take a run I don’t even think Pardews capable of going on to end up in the mix, I still think we’ll scrape tenth, where do you get that Ashley won’t risk his investment for a quick buck man ? He has constantly gambled with our futures since he got here, resulting in a relegation and the nearest thing to it, that season AC got sold, it was pure luck that Leon Best scored a few in his place, Mystic Meg would have been hard pushed to see that one coming, don’t tell me it was an offer that couldn’t be turned down we know that, but we we screaming for a striker before he even left.

  • 66 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:26 AM

    Anyone thought this is a pre cursor to Ashley putting the club up for sale?

    Kinnear has come in, done exactly what was required, limited spending helped facilitate the sale of a major asset. Taken a large amount of flak that wold have been aimed elsewhere in the same situation, and now is leaving which will lift some of the negative and toxic atmosphere that would cloud the rest of the season.

    Ashley can then sell, without the hindrance to a new owner having to pay Kinnear off, and also in a position where he is still largely hated, but things won’t seem as bad from an outside buyers perspective looking in.

    That is based on absolutely zero substantiative evidence and is all wild speculation, but we could all do with some hope to cling on to…

  • 67 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:31 AM

    Lil,
    It is totally impossible to even attempt to guess what’s going on, I’m hoping that they’ve fallen out and that Media Joe takes to the air waves, at least it will provide a bit of entertainment to an other wise drab run in to the end of the season.

  • 68 Assam Toon // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:32 AM

    ashley didn’t appoint kinnear because he thought that the club would do good to have a DoF. Kinnear was a cushion from all the transfer inactivity that was pre planned. Kinnear appointment served both pardew and ashley. Pardew suddenly found a group of sympathisers who despised kinnear, contrary to the footballing criticism he faced in the pre kinnear era. ashley detached himself from the transfer market completely by appointing kinnear. if i was ashley my deal with kinnear would have been,
    I give you a million pounds publicly. you pay the taxes and return the balance to me in cash. i pay your club related bills and pay for your drink. i will throw a few thousand as pension. in return you have to take the shit each time you open your stupid mouth. also take the shit of former pardew haters who would treat you as the bigger evil. lastly, you will be answerable for the transfers. i will sell good players and you take the blame. i wont buy good players and you take the blame.
    and if i was kinnear, at my age i would take the deal.

  • 69 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:33 AM

    Lil,
    As for selling up, we’ve got no chance, a few more years yet until he gets the money he wants out the club and it’s going to make what S/H took look like small change.

  • 70 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:36 AM

    Assam,
    Not everyone is feeling sorry for Pards, not turning on him but a lot of people suspect he’s complicit, that Journo actually pointed that out to him.

  • 71 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:36 AM

    Alternatively, we could see a new DoF put in place in the near future. In the same way that people don’t expect a top manager to be brought in to replace Pardew, can we really see him bringing in a top DoF to fill that role?

    In his time here he has had people like Wise, Mort (decent bloke, but not a football man), Jeff Vetere, Llambias and Kinnear filling the responsibilities (as well as other roles) that a DoF would have.

    Unless Ashley is looking to put his own firm hand on the tiller, we are currently lacking a Chairman, an MD and a DoF. WE have a financial director and a club secretary as the 2 main people involved day to day. For a multi million pound organisation that structure seems a bit weak.

  • 72 Assam Toon // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:41 AM

    Jail,
    true. for me MA is disinterested, Kinnear was a smokescreen and Pardew is not in the level we would like the club to be in.
    But i dont see the point in guessing who the next DoF will be. i dont think there will be any. maybe a llambias replacement, but not kinnear’s. kinnear was irreplaceable anyways ;-)

  • 73 Expat MAG // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:42 AM

    Some excellent discussions ongoing but I still find it hard to believe Ashley placed Kinnear in the DOF position in the first place or then gave him the funds to do his job. Twelve months ago, it was Ashley himself who got involved and brought in 5 new players as he knew we were relegation candidates.

    I prey we bring in a well respected and competent DOF, a person with charisma and a true professional, but who would take-up the Newcastle position under Ashley?

    Mort didn’t know much about football, but made up for this as he’s a very professional individual, and when he spoke, people listened. Unfortunately, no one ever listened to Kinnear, so better for him and us fans that he’s gone. Enjoy your retirement Joe!

  • 74 Cabyebye // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:42 AM

    @Sydney
    “however if JK actually signed Grenier or Cabella, of heaven forbid both, would we still be screaming for his head.”
    -
    I sincerely doubt it to be honest.

    “Would Pardew put his neck out on the line for JK if he didn’t feel there was funds to bring a replacement and a striker?”
    -
    Would Pardew tow the company line? Certainly. And this is coming from someone who likes AP.

    ” Ashley would(n’t?) have sanctioned the sale of Cabaye, a prized asset, if he was trusting JK in bringing in a replacement in.”
    -
    Nothing MA has done would have me believe that.
    The only reason Cabaye was truly prized in MA’s eyes is because of the profit he made off of the sale.

    ” The fact he trusted a close friend to do the job is in no way a bad thing, hell my best mate would not be a director for a company if I had not recommended him!”
    -
    Recommended, I take it he didn’t get the job on that merit alone? Surely he was suited to the job too? Because if not that is farcical….kind of like the appointment of JK.

    “I don’t think Ashley is a great owner, but I honestly doubt, being in senior management of a successful construction firm in Sydney, that he would specifically endanger his brand, his name or his investments because of a quick buck. ”
    -
    Have literally no idea what construction firms and football clubs have in common. Very tenuous link there. Fans are not merely “clients” they are FANatical supporters. They supported the club long before MA and will continue long after he has gone, not comparable; be it large enterprise construction or knocking on a dodgy extension it is an entirely different scenario.

    “Its simple to me, he appointed somebody he thought was capable of doing the job, saw no results, another trusted members of his staff, Carr and Pardew, have obviously severely given Ashley a piece of their minds, ”
    -
    Possible of course.

    “But in the business world, you don’t mess with your clients to make a quick buck! Plenty of clubs out there, not many supporters!”
    -
    On the contrary, far many new supporters come about daily than 100+ year old football clubs.
    And again, MA is purely about making money, have you seen how he treats his employees of SD? They were on week to week contracts for the longest and many probably still are! If a company treats it’s employees like shit for the sake of making a few “quick bucks” it’s a sure sign of their philosophy.

  • 75 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:43 AM

    Jail,
    I’m not sure the club would come out smelling of roses if he spoke out, potentially affecting this summer, so I’d be happy for him to disappear off to whichever backstreet watering hole he was found in.

    As for the sale, you are probably right, although the increased TV deal will have also increased the value of all Premier League clubs. This then has the potential to increase bids. If Ashley can squeeze a bidder enough then who knows. Not sure where this bidder would come from though….

  • 76 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:43 AM

    Lil,
    I wonder who will write the programme notes now Joe has gone, probably the same person who wrote them when Joe was here.

  • 77 Cabyebye // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:44 AM

    Also this =====> Post 64

  • 78 Carr Toon // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:45 AM

    Expecting Derek Lambias to come back………….

  • 79 Cabyebye // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:46 AM

    I really hope I am wrong about all of this and MA hires an amazing DOF that helps elevate our club to the next level. Sadly, I really do not see it happening under his ownership.

  • 80 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:51 AM

    If Dirk Dastardly comes back we know for sure that the whole things a set up and that there was no intention to spend a penny on a permanent signing this season, but you have to ask yourself, was JfK so hard up that he volunteered himself for ridicule and be remembered in football for his disastrous six months here.

  • 81 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:53 AM

    Jail,
    Yeah, it will be interesting to see which nom de plume Wendy Taylor chooses now. Lee Charnley, John Irving, or will we get a column from Ashley himself?

  • 82 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:53 AM

    I worded that wrong, it proves there was no intention to sign a permanent striker most of us knew that for sure anyway.

  • 83 Carr Toon // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:54 AM

    I was looking at Newcastle wikipedia page and came to notice that Alan Pardew has one of the worst winning percentages among the manager that have managed NUFC for more than 100 games. No surprises as far as playing 194 long balls in the game against SCUMS…..

  • 84 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:56 AM

    Lil,
    Can you imagine the difference that would make if Mashers could sit down with Wendy Taylor for half an hour every other week and help her piece together a column for him in the programme, not really a big ask.

  • 85 Santon03 // Feb 4, 2014 at 6:57 AM

    Cabyebye

    He is a businessman and he saw the potential market of NUFC and the supporters, that’s why he bought it. You wouldn’t want to anger your main customers, wouldn’t you? he has no speciffic intentions to anger the fans, it’s just turned out that way especially to some people.
    This is why I said he has no knowledge, football fans are different than retail customers. Whatever he did or going to do there will always some group thaat doesn’t agree or satisfied. Different than retail customers, here is items in display if you like it buy it, if you don’t then buy something els you like, no fuss.
    He doesn’t know where to begin to make this club successful winning trophies without insane spending spree like City or Chelsea, because he doesn’t have the kind of money of sheik or abramovic, that’s fact. Therefore he tried to employ people with the knowledge or abilities, and they were the wrong people sadly. He knows the business side, but he doesn’t know how to make football customers happy or to build a great squad without spending hundreds of million.
    I said in general he is smarter than us because he has billions of dollar to back it up not specifically in football term unless he got that billions from his parents.
    Do you honestly think that he sabotages his own investment for whatever reason? how much will he get in return if he succeed? Did you ever think about that?
    we are human being, each one has different ideas on how things should be done, there’s no way to make everyone happy on how thisngs should be done. He can’t follow everyone ideas, that would be insane, we would probably have more than 1000 players if that happened. If you are in his position then you would follow your own ideas since it’s your money and many of us wouldn’t be agree with your ideas too. Will you follow our ideas? I don’t think so.

  • 86 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:02 AM

    Jail,
    It isn’t a big ask, but as we were told from the off, Ashley is a very private man who doesn’t like to court media attention or be involved in writing articles. (Apart from when beer is flowing and he can get naked in chinese restaurants).

    I doubt Wendy spent much time sat down with Kinnear to piece together his columns. I reckon she probably gets an emailed overview of broad content and possibly the odd sound byte (“Make no bones about it” etc.) and is just left to put it together.

  • 87 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:04 AM

    Santon,
    You have explained in a nut shell why he is not fit to run our football club.

  • 88 catchy in norway // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:15 AM

    today is a good day

    regardless

    it’s one down

  • 89 mindshaft // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:16 AM

    Whoever we get in he’ll be cheap so that rules Cortese out as he was on 3 million a year, I guess it sort of rules out anyone decent

  • 90 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:22 AM

    Santon,
    Not many of us are asking for Ashley to spend billions on the club. We want to see signs of sensible investment, the progression of the team, making good on his initial promises for his vision of the club. But at every turn he makes an error.

    You say he is intelligent, that isn’t necessarily correct, and it certainly doesn’t mean he has any sort of broad spread of knowledge. He may have been good at spotting a dying company and buying majority shares in it to asset strip (how he made a large portion of his money) which then rendered the company valueless, at which point SD acquired them for a pittance. He has done this with a number of companies, at huge profit to himself. So, to say he wouldn’t devalue a brand he has a financial stake in is wholly incorrect.

    As for the appointment of people at the club, he has made bad appointments at every turn. If he isn’t capable of employing the right people, as is pertinently obvious to all, then why doesn’t he use professional recruiters – yes football specific recruitment groups are out there – to do that to ensure we have the right people.

    He has nobody to blame for the failings but himself, and no knowledge doesn’t excuse him after making the same mistakes for 7 years!!

  • 91 mindshaft // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:23 AM

    Santon – agree, Ashley is hardly trying to devalue his own investment – he just doesn’t have a clue about football and football fans

  • 92 Santon03 // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:24 AM

    jail

    your version of NUFC owner is a person who has won WC, CL, and own 100 billion or yourself. Good luck!

  • 93 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:25 AM

    One things for sure there won’t be anyone brought in from outside until the summer, he’s not going to have somebody on good wages while the window’s shut.

  • 94 HullMag6 // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:27 AM

    Ash covering his arse. Season tickets dropping or returned – someone has to take the fall.

  • 95 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:29 AM

    Santon,
    I’d almost accepted Ashley as owner until he proved without shadow of doubt in the summer of 2012 that he had absolutely no interest in footballing success for our club.

  • 96 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:30 AM

    Mindshaft/Santon,
    It depends what your take on him devaluing it is. By selling Cabaye, the playing and actual football side is devalued, but the business side is strengthened.

    I think most fans would prefer to see the other way round. I think Ashley views the business side as the primary so in his eyes he isn’t devaluing possibly.

    As for whoever said he is ‘sabotaging’ his investment, I do draw the line at that. He wouldn’t sabotage, but he may well not want to push the club forward and just maintain status quo, which defeats the purpose of owning a side in competitive sport.

  • 97 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:33 AM

    Love this game by Ashley.

    only reason we didn’t make a signing because he didn’t want to spend.
    Same outcome last two sporting directors. One thing in common.

    Ashley.

  • 98 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:38 AM

    and well stated by FB’s NUFC transfer Rumours

    “4000 people have cancelled their Season Tickets apparently, JK the scapegoat.”

    very much so.

  • 99 Santon03 // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:38 AM

    Lilo

    Back to Cabaye case, I think he gambled.
    He gambled that noone would be crazy enough to pay his asking price since arse only want to pay 10mil. That’s why he promised Cabaye that if a bid comes at his asking price then he would take it.
    In this case, you may call it he lost this hand or someone called his bluff.
    If he still say no, do you think Cabaye would be happy and get on with it? or will go on a strike like in summer window?
    I would say selling Cabaye is the best option, probably the only option he has, may not be great but there is no good outcome keeping him here.

  • 100 stan anderson // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:38 AM

    Great news,but who is next.
    Anyone know what the the poison dwarf is doing at present.
    Could be Ashley,s way of stickinf the Knife in even further.
    Or could he even get something right and appoint a proper football person.
    Doubt it mind,more likely to be Lambias or D.Wise.
    Just trying my best to be positive about this but i know i will be let down by the cretin we are blessed with.
    Scary times for the FANS.

  • 101 dubzy // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:38 AM

    NO Chairman, an MD and a DoF……SOUND TO ME HES READY TO SELL UP AND LET NEW OWNER PICK A Chairman, an MD and a DoF……..HOPE SO ANYWAYS

  • 102 John Tudor // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:39 AM

    pardew next

  • 103 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:39 AM

    Lil, from NUFC.com
    “From the comments of Cabaye, it now seems apparent that his departure was inevitable well before the January transfer window – making United’s failure to strengthen a deliberate act of sabotage. Deadline day even saw us spared invented stories from Sky – no Aunt Sally outside the training ground this time, even they’ve not got the brass neck to repeat their phantom helicopter tales”

  • 104 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:39 AM

    And quite frankly we DONT know what went on behind the scenes…All we know JK was not bad at doing his job till it came for prices. Thats when Ashley came in.

    To me another useless SD will come in and do much of the same or sign 1 million players…

    not what we need.

  • 105 Transfer Sage // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM

    This is a good thing, but the man at the top is still the problem…he either doesn’t want to spend money or he does and he hasn’t got a clue who to hire.

    He needs to show intent and go for a proven MD, chairman, technical director, director of football (if they want another)

  • 106 Spuggy // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM

    Definitely a sacking as they didn’t do the obligatory thank you for the work you did line.

    Now MA make a sensible decision please. Let Carr identify the talent with pards – I don’t care what anyone says but the players we actually have brought in under Carr and Pards for the most part have been excellent.

    Unfortunately this season is a right-off now with us weakened and the teams above us way too strong.

    Give Carr back the reigns along with a summer war chest – its the only way to keep up with the pack.

  • 107 Cabyebye // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:45 AM

    @Santon
    Santon I have answered most of what you bring up here in previous posts, or at least given my view on these topics; angering fans (SJP rename, not showing any ambition as a club, not purchasing any players) he is not doing it to anger fans, he is doing it because he wants to make money, it is really that simple!

    He is happy with our club surviving in the PL, does not want/need success of any description as he will still get all the major revenue. I don’t see how any of this can be construed as sabotaging his investment because he is maintaining the greatest financial rewards of owning a PL club with minimal expenditure, it is perfect for him.
    Also, as I said previously, I believe that people will always go to matches, buy the jerseys, etc regardless of MA because they love their club.

    You talk about him not knowing how to make the club successful and to win trophies without spending big money, etc. I reiterate: he does not care about winning anything, he is happy raking in PL, TV & Ticket revenue a constant for the bare minimum investment.

    I wouldn’t necessarily want a Sheik to come in and make us a Man City a true bastardization of the sport IMO, but merely to reinvest some of the money that the club is making! I find it unfathomable that you think it is OK for him not to put some money into the club whilst taking in so much.

  • 108 John Tudor // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:46 AM

    the pack left us yonks ago

  • 109 Spuggy // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:46 AM

    I thought kinnears comments about Cabaye were ridiculous. He wanted to go so well if the money was right we did the deal.

    NO! The clubs success comes first and you do NOT sell your best players unless a like for like replacement is secured which could have easily been done in the summer.

  • 110 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:48 AM

    Santon,
    From a fans point of view it would have made perfect sense to pursuade Cabaye to stay till the end of the season, especially in light of the fact they had no intention of bringing anyone in.

  • 111 SuperShearer // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:49 AM

    Didn’t see this news until this morning….what a fantastic start to the day. Will be very interesting to see if JK is replaced or if AP is given freedom to deal with transfers. I suspect not as Ashely doesn’t seem to have that much faith in AP in that department. Without stating the obvious if we’re going to continue in the French market than perhaps a French director of football is required.

  • 112 Transfer Sage // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:50 AM

    jail

    also given he couldn’t sulk as he needs to play well to go to the world cup, and then the world cup could bump up his price.

  • 113 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:50 AM

    Santon,
    Given the French coach publicly criticised Cabaye when the rumours were around that he was on strike then no, I doubt Cabaye would go on strike 6 months before a World Cup when his manager had already stated his disapproval of such methods.

    But this has nothing to do with Cabaye, you could use any players name, or even any of the brands that were formerly owned by Lilywhites which were sold off under Ashleys majority holding, only for Lilywhites to become part of SD at a very low cost, bringing with it some prime commercial properties.

    This was about Ashley devaluing companies, and that is something any business guru who has followed Ashley will tell you he has done in the sat to SD’s benefit. As far as NUFC are concerned, Ashley is unwilling to put anymore money in, but at the same token is yet to take much out – one payment so far I think.

    The club is not costing him to run anymore, and he is benefitting from using the club as a global advertising hoarding, increasing SD’s market share abroad. To improve would cost money, as would being relegated, so status quo suits him. As the club improves its financial position he will recoup his loan, and when the club is sold at this time Ashley will make a large profit on his purchase price without having lost money while investing.

    This benefits both him and SD.

  • 114 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:52 AM

    Spuggy,
    Do you mean Wendy Taylors carefully worded comments, JfKs contribution was the bit about bones and he borrowed thatfrom Pardew.

  • 115 Cabyebye // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:53 AM

    Don’t get me started on the free marketing, rage inducing.

  • 116 Slank // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:54 AM

    Whether he went voluntarily or was pushed the timing is good as it leaves a clear run till the next transfer window for the next DOF if he or she is appointed fairly soon.

    As someone else has said we don’t know what has gone on behind the scenes, probably never will. Fans can guess and put forward theories and scenarios as if they are in full knowledge of the facts and have an in depth knowledge of how a football club works but they, like almost all fans, know very little of how a modern football club operates. That includes me.

    Joe said ‘judge me on my signings’ or words to that effect and he was judged and found wanting.

  • 117 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:54 AM

    Also, given the recent discussions on land surrounding the ground that the club owned being transferred to MASH holdings and then sold it is fairly obvious to one and all that Ashley is continuing his policy of asset stripping companies.

  • 118 John Tudor // Feb 4, 2014 at 7:59 AM

    buy holly willerby
    lets see him strip that

  • 119 bollance // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:00 AM

    Houllier must be a contender. Respected in France and would do wonders for the running of the club like bringing the youngsters through.

  • 120 catchy in norway // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:01 AM

    id just like to echo shearer in hoping its not a health problem,

    this is a huge game that is being played, with no real rules, as they change from week to week,

    DOF is a huge job, stressful and with his condition , he should have never took the job, but greed is a funny thing,

    what do they say,, pride before the fall, so its got to be pardew next

  • 121 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:01 AM

    Haha, just seen someone on twitter claiming to be ITK saying that Kinnear was sacked because he scuppered a deal that would have seen Cisse leaving the club yesterday!! While I don’t believe a word of that, nothing would surprise me at this club…..

  • 122 Transfer Sage // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:02 AM

    Bollance

    Providing they want a director of football. Might just have pardew and carr come up with lists, after all the clubs official stance even with kinnear was that lee charnly (or some other financial minded person) dealt with contracts and actual finance.

  • 123 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:03 AM

    Bollance,
    Here we go again, all the people we could and should have but none of them fit into Mashers price range or lack the dignity to try and decieve us, Sven Goran has one of those qualifications.

  • 124 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:06 AM

    Sage,
    Yeah, Charnley (Club Secretary) and John Irving (financial Director) dealt with those things. But they are the only 2 people at top level management now, unless Ashley is to step in to the breach. Surely we have to be looking at at least 1 person joining that structure, or maybe Dubzy (and my wildly speculative theory) are correct and a sale is being lined up.

    But as with appointing a new manager, there is zero guarantee that Ashley will appoint someone capable and qualified for the role.

  • 125 Mister Tuff // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:06 AM

    Well I didn’t see that one coming -I don’t think anyone did.
    Well probably never get to know the exact circumstances as to why JFK left. What frightens me is – what is coming next. It’s may be true that nothing needs to be done until the summer -but Mr Tubbs could quite easily surprise us with something bizarre. It is strange that Llambias has never spoken a word about his time at SJP. Mmmm that’s a thought.
    There is nothing really transparent at the club – and without doubt the divide between the management and the supporters continues to grow. After reading that article in the Guardian last week about Ashley -it is very very clear -he is a ruthless man.
    So the circus continues – awaiting the next installment.

  • 126 Goodfella // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:08 AM

    I wonder what cashley has up his sleeve now

  • 127 magpie6699 // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:09 AM

    “Oi’m chuffed to announce that I’ve just put moy signature to the signing of a great player called “moi resignation”. He’ll replace Yohan Kebab no bovver”

  • 128 theartfuldodger // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:12 AM

    Perhaps
    1. LLAMBIAS RETURNS.
    2. PARDEW MOVES TO DOF and NEW MANAGER comes in.

  • 129 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:14 AM

    Pardew as Dof …….

  • 130 Transfer Sage // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:15 AM

    lilo

    Yeh it makes sense to bring another in, but like you say will he do it and if he does will he hire somebody who is competent.

    City hired two guys as technical directors from Barca…we should be looking at that. Maybe not that level as they wont come, but something similar if they actually want to progress.

    What about david dean?

  • 131 theartfuldodger // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:17 AM

    JFA,

    Did you think of that option too…Pardew as DoF.. Or was that a “Now Iv heard it all” reaction to my comment…

  • 132 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:18 AM

    TS,
    Please, David Dean, former Barcelona experts, has this last seven years taught you anything about Mike Ashley, he will bring in one of his pals and let him pick it up as he goes on.

  • 133 Markaccus // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:18 AM

    Think of the worst person in football ever, then imagine ten times worse. That will br our nrw DOF!

    “Nufc are pleased to welcome BEELZIBUB as the new DOF”

    in a statement satan said “i hope to destroy you all and hold the world in my dark dominion for centuries. Also i will sign Heskey”

  • 134 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:19 AM

    Artful sorry pal it was the latter :(

  • 135 Transfer Sage // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:21 AM

    does anyone here think that a lot of fans aren’t that annoyed with Ashley.

    Look how spontanius and decisive the action at leeds was on friday and saturday,

    Or do people think it’s because ashley has been here so long people are a bit ground down.

  • 136 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:24 AM

    TS,
    I think people are fed up with Ashley although is trying to grind us down.

  • 137 Transfer Sage // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:25 AM

    jail

    I agree he will hire a yes man who doesn’t do the job, just dreaming.

  • 138 jettson1971 // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:27 AM

    what NUFC land ha been transferred to MASH or has been sold???

  • 139 Barras // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:28 AM

    Tony Jimenez
    Derek Llambias
    Joe Kinnear.

    They were all there to take the heat away from Mike Ashley. We all know who the real problem is. We must boycott.

  • 140 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:28 AM

    I’d love to know eggactly why Bills hasn’t been on for awhile, it’s not as eggciting without him posting, we could do with some eggstra views on the situation, maybe his thoughts are a bit scrambled on the way Cabaye was poached, but when he does show up I hope nobody eggs him on. :)

  • 141 stan anderson // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:30 AM

    The important one is still going to do it his way,not the sensible way,but his way.(WRONG WAY)

  • 142 estechco // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:31 AM

    Applications for the vacant DoF role can be made in person…

    …daan the Dog n Duck this comin’ Froyday noyt!

    Northerners or anyone with the relevant experience need not apply

  • 143 sparky55 // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:33 AM

    Just woke up to the news and been reading this whole string to get a flavour of the reaction…no surprises really apart from some of you thinking Pardew should be in charge of transfers even though his only foray into player recruitment got us the fabulous Obertan…so please no…no distractions for Pardew whatsoever if you don’t mind…he’s struggling enough to get the lads to pass a ball to one of their own players never mind be in charge of player recruitment as well.

    I have no idea what’s really going on here because it’s almost like most of us use a degree of common sense when putting suggestions forward as to how the club should be run whereas Mike Ashley likes to be perverse…which is why I’m a bit worried…I get the sense he’s lulling us into a false sense of security here…I think there’s a sting in the tail yet to come otherwise he’s not met his weekly obligation of royally winding us.

    Windows closed so no distractions….but there should be shouldn’t there!…we should be planning to recruit summer targets as we seek to recover the lost ground…we cant just wing it in the summer can we?…but I don’t think Ashley is interested…I think he’s very close to selling up…I think the Sports Direct brand is so huge now that Ashley regards it as job done…he’s done what he set out to do.

    Unfortunately I think Pardew will keep his job til the end of the year or until the club is sold whichever comes first.

    I really do think the Ashley era is coming to an end…we’ll that’s what I’m telling myself just to get through the day.

  • 144 HullMag6 // Feb 4, 2014 at 8:44 AM

    I’m hoping its the beginning of the end for ash. Was the Abu Dhabi trip more than a training camp?




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