Alan Shearer On Joe Kinnear Dismissal


The news that Joe Kinnear has resigned from Newcastle United broke about 11:00 pm tonight, when Newcastle announced it on the Newcastle web-site.

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Alan Shearer – hopes it’s not for health reasons

Initial reactions are coming in, and this is what Newcastle icon Alan Shearer had to say about it, as he talked to Match of the Day 2 last night:

“I always say nothing should surprise you in football, certainly not with Newcastle anyway, but I was very surprised with his appointment in the first place.”

“Particularly with the way it was announced, with the way Joe himself announced it on the radio.”  “He got all those names wrong, after being out of the game for so long…it was a strange appointment in the first place, but I’m not surprised.”

“When you sell your best player as you did three days before the deadline, you have to have a plan.” “You have to have someone ready to come in. There was talk about Cabaye going to PSG anyway, so there had to be a plan there.”

“Whether that’s Newcastle’s way of saying, he didn’t do his job, he didn’t bring players in… but I hope it’s not ill health, I hope he’s OK there, but I’m not sure what his job was there anyway at Newcastle.”

We also hope it’s not bad health,  as Joe has had a weak heart for a long time now, and it was one reason he couldn’t continue as Newcastle manager back in 2009.

But the timing is such that this seems a statement that he couldn’t get the job done, and we had the strange sight over the weekend of Alan Pardew trying to defend the club,  on what was a disastrous failure not to bring in a replacement for Yohan Cabaye last week.

And Joe proved immediately he was not cut out to be an executive anywhere, as he pr-announced his appointment last June – before Newcastle had even got around to announcing it on their web-site – and that was done the next day.

But it had ramifications, as Managing Director Derek LLambias also resigned in protest of the appointment.

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144 comments so far

  • Sydney Toon

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:35 AM

    Comment #1

    Repost:
    About time!
    To me, IMO, this is the same as Llambias situation, both didn’t do the jobs they were asked to do, both failed, more so Kinnear than Llambias. Kinnear was pushed, surely!
    Now comes the interesting next few days. Has a replacement been lined up and knowing Ashley’s past, there will be somebody lined up.
    There are some great Football CEO’s out there and also great DoF out there.
    The obvious comes to mind would be Nicola Cortese, but where would that leave Pardew?
    Just a slight left field option… Would Carr be appointed to DoF, he has the experience and respect of Ashley and Pardew?
    Will Pardew get full control, which appears to be the easiest option, one that makes Ashley nervous but ultimately brings 1 person accountable not a few.

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  • 2_goal_tino

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:36 AM

    Comment #2

    This is the only good that has come from the past month.

    Ashley has undoubtedly forced Kinnear out! Remember last January, Ashley was frustrated with the lack of signings and took a hands on approach and was directly involved in that spell of 4 signings in 5 days. His frustration with transfer inactivity was why Llambias left.

    Also disagree with Ed saying the next appointment should be a local or a former player. It should be the best person for the job … I’d welcome back Chris Mort but he won’t come back to football, Nicola Cortese is available….

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  • pawl250

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:39 AM

    Comment #3

    Al it was eating pies on his fat lazy a$$

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  • Finnbad The Sailor

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:39 AM

    Comment #4

    While this appears to be good news. It’s to little to late, this other than probably silencing some of the begrudgings of the fand has still left us reet up shits creek for the remainder of the season in terms of no creative presence in midfield due to the departure of Cabaye, however I am quite glad Marveux had found his way back into the side because I really like him as a player.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:40 AM

    Comment #5

    I wouldn’t be suprised if he replaced Kinnear with Niall Quin.

    You know what he is like.

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  • Graeme

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:42 AM

    Comment #6

    If Ashley can appoint a “football figure” one who is respected in the game, somebody he can trust to look after his interests, who really knows how a football club works, what it needs, then we may have just turned a major corner to becoming the club we should be.

    One can but live in hope!!!!!

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  • DENIro

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:43 AM

    Comment #7

    I’m afraid that he will be menager from tomorow…

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  • Graeme

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:45 AM

    Comment #8

    To be honest, Niall Quin wouldn’t be such a stupid choice – if Ashley trusts him. He knows what is needed and could do the job. The fact he was Chairman down the road wouldnt bother me at all.

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  • kevymartins

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #9

    Why is people assuming that MA pushed him out? For all we know JFK was trying to do his job and was told the funds were not available and due to the fans taking it out on him for doing the job he couldn’t do iin the first place he resigned.

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  • 2_goal_tino

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:48 AM

    Comment #10

    @Finnbad – As soon as we lost to Cardiff, our season was going to be over, either way, after last Saturday. Win or lose, with Cabaye or without, we would have coasted to the end of the season. Champs league was never going to happen and the only people who want Europa are the fans.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #11

    I echo many others thoughts, let’s see what happens next.

    Being cynical, this does play in to the theory of having foot soldiers to take the blows on Ashleys behalf.

    I suppose it comes down to, is Ashley naive when he hires these people or are these people hired to do as they have and only have a limited shelf life?

    New beginnings buy you time.

    Still, cynical hat off, Kinnears gone, there is room for improvement. Shock me Ashley…please.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #12

    TADS

    Good on him if he was. Question is, who was at fault for the last two windows? Ashley, JFK or both of them? Make a proper appointment and have a good summer window and maybe Ashley can regain some credibility.

    Aha…maybe that’s his master plan…plumb the depths with JFK, then improve things quickly once he’s gone and make out that it was JFK’s fault he whole time…the relegation, the last two windows…all down to JFK.

    Expect Ashley or his new DoF to broker deals for Grenier, Cabella and Remy in the next few weeks…

    🙂

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  • kevymartins

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #13

    It sounds like Carr fits the bill 100% but does he really? he is amazing at being a scout as being out of the country looking at talent so maby it’s not for him.

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  • manxpie

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:52 AM

    Comment #14

    deniro jesus i’m just waiting for the next announcement on sky sports “pardew has been released from his duties as newcastle manager”

    and then a talksport exclusive interview from kinnear “yeah thats right i’m fuskin manager or newcarstle united ya kernts! stick that up ya ducks arse!”

    why after bringing us such good news do SPN have to have them inbreads on gloating!!!

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 4, 2014 at 12:59 AM

    Comment #15

    TDS
    Yep Ashley has big call to make, let’s hope he gets it right for once

    Not holding my breath yet though, as it stands at this moment we have a disgruntled manager and no one planning for the summer

    First order of business if we actually get a competent DOF must surely be getting some if the players contracts sorted and working on replacing the dead wood?

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  • Ibizatoon

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:02 AM

    Comment #16

    Have to say, the “The Club will be making no further comment.” part has me thinking that little has changed.

    Will we have to assume what’s going on again? Why the constant smoke and mirrors. It simply causes more distrust.

    This should be a happy moment for fans, yet here we have another example of how low things have sunk.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #17

    Well what great news this is!

    It would be interesting to hear the real reasons behind the resignation, but as Belfast rightly pointed out, this then takes away some of the scared factor of him taking over from the tactical numb skull which is Mr. Pardew.

    Maybe it is because Ashley’s media buffer has served his purpose to the final transfer window before he sells the club.

    Maybe he just genuinely wasn’t good at his job anyway and was offered to resigm instead of being sacked.

    Maybe the silver tongued one has been using Kinnear as his latest excuse for his shocking approach to football systems and has helped to edge him out.

    There are lots more reasons, obviously.

    He’s gone though, which is better than him staying, so that’s a start. As long as Lambeezy keeps away too. Just Ashley and Mr. Dense to go before we can start to move forward.

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  • TurkishFan101

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:05 AM

    Comment #18

    Lads, if we get Nicola Cortese in.. What a great impact he would be.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:08 AM

    Comment #19

    Hopefully he has just resigned to keep well away and not to be designated a new role…

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:08 AM

    Comment #20

    Ashley was having dinner with Clive Allen and pals at the weekend, they were having a right nosh up in the
    York and Albany…Camden Town..Glenn Hoddle was also sighted.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:09 AM

    Comment #21

    Hoddle was in the feeding frenzy with the obese one was he?

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  • manxpie

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:11 AM

    Comment #22

    laurent yeah its shocking to see us still at 8th after a bad run of form absolutely shocking and his systems that got us there even more so!!
    i bet jose is thinking the same tonight!??

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  • lesh

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:11 AM

    Comment #23

    Bet Pardew’s cracked a bottle or two last night!

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  • manxpie

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:15 AM

    Comment #24

    courtise is an absolute no chance!

    sorry but didn’t he spend 40 odd mill on osvaldo, ramirez and wanyama!??

    lets face it its not exactly ashley’s style is it!

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  • potski

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:17 AM

    Comment #25

    Repost

    Hilarious. So all of these “theories” spouted over and over ad nauseum for months, and even being given yesterday by several posters to back up their opinions (which they don’t accept are opinions) that Mikey intended to replace Alan with Joe all the time, and he was only brought in as DoF to piss off Alan to avoid paying him compensation and/or to piss off fans is proven to be the biggest BS ever.

    C’mon let’s see the verbal diarrhoea trying to explain this one:)

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  • lesh

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:21 AM

    Comment #26

    Bon news for Ibiza eh – Bartender, four tequila slammers for the guy that’s signing and dancing on the table in tge corner.

    Ibiza, there’s nothing sinister about this resignation – Kinnear’s been sacked.

    Look at the club statement again and in particular“The Club will be making no further comment”

    You can’t have missed the absence of the usual ‘we’d like to thank him etc and ‘wish him well’, the usual courtesies when a parting’s been fairly amicable.

    The absence of the nicities speaks volumes!

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:22 AM

    Comment #27

    Manx, it’s lucky for him that he has players like Remy and Cabaye who are skilled at shooting outside the box. He has no clue how to formulate an offensive plan in the final third.

    We’ve kept the ball on the floor more this year, but that shouldn’t come with a medal and high fives. We play ok for patches of games, sometimes even 45 minutes, but still not in the final third.

    We can look hard to break down, yes, and decent at times in our third and the middle third, but with the amount of players the negative one has back defending, so we should.

    Anyway, his outside the box shooters are out, so we’ll be sinking like a ship now.

    There’s is no real point to finishing 8th whatsoever if we aren’t playing attacking football, in my opinion. You may like containing football all year round, I certainly don’t. It is not in the spirit of the game.

    Poyet showed Pardew how it should be done and did so with vastly poorer players at the bottom of the league.

    That is coaching and philosophy.

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  • lesh

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:27 AM

    Comment #28

    The fact that Ashley’s been posted on eBay can’t have helped Kinnear’s cause.

    Well done the advertiser – you’ll get some serious feedback ratings. Mind yet fees are gonna be high given the £150k plus bidding!

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  • manxpie

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:28 AM

    Comment #29

    laurent quite simply tell me the attacking players we’ve got especially wingers!!?
    unless you want ober and sammi playing every game of course!!?

    but go on tell me the attacking options pardews got that will get us to top 4!

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  • manxpie

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:32 AM

    Comment #30

    and btw did you watch chelsea tonight?
    jose is the best man in using this set up in the league especially making every player defend when they need to and to get forward when they need to

    now pardew hasn’t just got half the 1st team at least in terms of quality but squad!!

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  • ronjohno

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:37 AM

    Comment #31

    As Cortese was the one who sacked Pardew from Southampton I say get him in.

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  • nightfa11

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:39 AM

    Comment #32

    “carr is a scout”..is he really? i mean..in todays world u dont need a scout (unless youre scouting africa)..he identifies players who are all over french & dutch press..top players in those leagues.. i think carr’s advantage is good relations with those clubs..french & dutch “football people”.. not scouting for players half a europe knows they’re already good (internationals ffs:D)..

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  • manxpie

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:40 AM

    Comment #33

    oh and laurent poyet had the difference
    only by a player that had a final ball if u watched sunderland they passed around there 1st 3rd most of the game and had 1 player who put a good ball in and i’d love the geordie here at he’s exactly wat we are missing
    the ammount of final passes we messed up is down to the players full stop!!
    anita arfa sissko sammi are all to blame and shola for not doing wat he did earlier in the season plus santon for being a headless tit

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  • jimmysmith

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:41 AM

    Comment #34

    A week at NUFC is a long time, but even by our calamitous capacities, what a week it has been.

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  • jimmysmith

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:47 AM

    Comment #35

    I think its time to commit NUFC to a home for the bewildered for nice long rest, while we focus our attentions on the run in to the league title, the ever excellent champions league and the joy of the World Cup finals. For the sake of our ongoing health and happiness.

    It’s becoming a mental health issue.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Feb 4, 2014 at 1:54 AM

    Comment #36

    There is alot of bashing going on for Ashley and Pardew and rightly so. One man is the owner and the other is the manager that is fair criticism. Of course it is.

    But let’s not distract ourselves from how poor those players actually played on Saturday.

    They were shocking.

    These are individual professional footballers that are paid a great deal of money to represent the football club. That performance was not on.

    Nevermind just tactics and motivation as a cause, that can only go so far. These players should not even need motivating for such an encounter if the truth be known. It’s the Tyne Wear derby for gods sake. Most of the players have seen it before and experienced it already.

    The performance of these individuals was bad. They all have their own responsibilities and jobs and they did not do them at the weekend.

    The team we had out was poor. We had are better players out with injury, Gouffran and Remy and we had lost Cabaye.

    We all know Shola and Sammy and I think we can all say we don’t see them as Premier League footballers.

    Ben Arfa has been hit and miss all season as has mostly everybody else.

    The blame sits with everyone. Not just one person.

    Ashley, Pardew, coaching staff and the PLAYERS.

    For me they all take equal responsibility for Saturday.

    That’s how poor it all was from the top of the club to bottom.

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  • benjohnsen

    Feb 4, 2014 at 2:00 AM

    Comment #37

    To all Pardew haters.

    Remember the glory days of Big Sam, Grame Souness, Glen Roeder and Joe Kinnear. No? I do. I miss those days when the ball went fast through the middle and our passing game was excellent. When we outplayed the top teams. Not to forget all the good players we had as well. Michael Owen, Nicky Butt, Geremi and Viduka to name a few. The technical ability these showed was from another planet.

    Wake up so called fans!!!!! Newcastle haven’t had such a promising team since Bobby Robson’s days. We are unstable, but our top level is very high. The way we beat Chelsea, Man United, Tottenham. Lost marginally to Man City and Arsenal. Think about it.

    Pardew didn’t get the manager of the year by coincidence. He deserved it. When he has a good team he deliver. Unfortunately, he can’t point in the candy store like some of his colleagues in the PL with almost unlimited budget to get a top team.

    This summer we need new center back, two forwards and a class midfielder. Let’s see what happens and lets stay positive.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Feb 4, 2014 at 2:02 AM

    Comment #38

    ben

    its a bit early in the morning for sarcasm haha

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  • RonVanDam

    Feb 4, 2014 at 2:20 AM

    Comment #39

    Heres why the club should be preparing for summer signings.

    We are 8 points away from safety

    Tell the players who no longer have a future at the club that they will be released at the end of the season. This will trigger them to work harder to fight for a new contract within the club or draw attention from other clubs. As a result – help us climb the PL ladder and achieve safety

    Go over the winter transfer list provided by Carr and start enquiring now. The earlier we get players in the next window, the better chance for the players to settle and help us push for that CL spot

    Do not appoint Carr as DOF. He’s better off as a scout. Get someone reputable with vast football knowledge (maybe a retired scout or Shearer.

    Stop capping players in the transfer market at 10m. Sometimes spending more on a quality player actually gives the whole team a morale boost.

    Freshen up the coaching staff. Maybe get a creative/attacking Assistant Manager will help.

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  • p

    Feb 4, 2014 at 2:21 AM

    Comment #40

    I wonder if mash even really even knows whats going on at the toon. maybe he is too busy trying to make zillions elsewhere he just delegated.

    Suddenly he finds out we are doing sh@#% again and fires jfk, maybe pards and charnley of whatever his name is are next

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