Ashley Not To Replace Kinnear – Not Yet Anyway


According to the Press Association this morning,  Newcastle owner Mike Ashley is in no hurry to replace the departed Director of Football Joe Kinnear, and there’s  no real need to do that,  with the next transfer window being this summer.

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Chris Mort thinking – what do the fans want?

Lee Charnley has been involved with all transfer dealings over the last few years, and he’s experienced enough, and it could be that manager Alan Pardew will have more say in what happens on the transfer front,  as he had said over the weekend, if he had been in charge of transfers,  Yohan Cabaye would not have left the club.

Mike Ashley has to realize at some point that money isn’t everything in football,  and Yohan’s departure has ruined the season for Newcastle, and why couldn’t it have waited until the summer?

The only reason we can think of is that Yohan could have bought out his contract for £6M – which is the two years left on his contract – and of course PSG would have been willing to pay for that – Newcastle would have lose around £14M – maybe.

But somebody at Newcastle needs to be working on possible new recruits before the summer rolls around, and we would expect Lee Charnley,  Chief Scout Graham Carr and Alan Pardew to be in close communication  in the coming months on possible transfer targets.

It would be great to have Chris Mort back at the club, but he’s far too successful as a lawyer to want to do that again – however if it did happen he would be an excellent choice as the new Chairman of Newcastle.

Chris used to do something which is very strange at Newcastle these days – he used to talk regularly with the fans and then tried to do his best once he knew what the fans wanted.

That’s a novel approach.

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143 comments so far

  • BandB

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #1

    new thread while typing. Repost.

    Rotonda,

    Two transfer windows have been negotiated. Ashley can afford to let his friend step out of the firing line now, and become yet more invisible himself.
    Will he come to matches now, without Joe at his side?

    The heat now falls soley on Mr Pardew.
    Think back to Saturday’s press conference and Pardew’s answers.
    Joe is now out of the picture.

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  • cbtoon82

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #2

    I’m not sure why everyone keeps going on at Ed about writing facts. Who knows what the facts are? The club don’t tell anyone anything. If he only wrote facts there would be no blog.

    On subject, I’m not holding out hope, but let’s all stay positive and think maybe Ashley has turned a corner. Yes there have been many corners and he’s never once changed. But maybe he’s going to fire pardew and get a good manager in who he will back in the transfer market. Maybe he’s going to keep pardew and back him. Maybe he’s going to finally sell up. I would be happy with either of those three scenarios. Fingers crossed 😀

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  • Ben3arfa

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #3

    Mort was the man that brought Keegan back to the club, when he left and Llambias stepped down, it all started to go downhill.

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  • Coach

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #4

    One possibility is that Ashley will take charge of transfers himself. Look what happened last time he did that.

    It’s his mess he might, just might, feel he has to sort it out.

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #5

    Instead of a new DoF. Why not do what we all wanted in summer….i.e. employ a top notch technical coach to control and obersee training, leaving Pardew as the manager, who will pick the team based on the advice of the coach. In summer, pardew can then buy the type of player both he AND the tech coach think we need.

    We all wanted some kind of coaching change in summer, it was a compromise reached by most of the bloggers that if pardew stayed, a coach was needed. Instead we got JFK. Time to put it right properly.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #6

    new manager and new owner please

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  • Munster Mag

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #7

    We shouldn’t get hung up on a new appointment. The DOF is not the be all and end all of football and surely Charnley, Pardew and Chief Scout can work things aout between them. At the end of the day, its Ashleys principle of making derisory offers that is holding us back, as I pointed out when I highlighted Ashleys Purchasing Model a few seasons ago.

    1. Young talent – green light
    2. Player with heavy discount but resale value ( eg Cisse) – likely green light, just like the retail world.
    3. Player coming towards end of contract – possible green light
    4. Player in mid contract worth over 5 million – prevaricate, unsettle player, make low offer, wait a season for value to drop ( Debuchy, Gomis etc )

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #8

    I’m looking forward to seeing De jong when he is up and running, he seemed to find himself a yard of space and hold the ball well, I think he can do a good job for us, great link with Remy.

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  • Munster Mag

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #9

    I don’t think Pardew has to worry about the spotlight. We will get back on track, albeit not performing as well, because of Cabaye. Cabaye isn’t his fault and he cant be blamed for this. He’ll be glad to get back on the training pitch IMO. Its very unfair on him that he has to be a PR man for the club’s terrible transfer dealings , aswell as his normal job.

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  • Munster Mag

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #10

    Maraccus. I agree re a good coach needed. pardew is a clever boy and his skills as a politician would suit well in a broader manager role.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #11

    Pardew should have no role at the club, bang average and covers for his boss every chance he gets.

    Ashley needs to go for any good change to take place, otherwise we will just continue to hire average people in key positions.

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  • BandB

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #12

    Munster,

    The hacks had Pardew by the nuts on Saturday.
    If he said one thing he implicated himself, if he said another, he implicated his boss.
    They were telling the press officer, “okay, it might be unfair to ask him questions about transfers, but who else can we ask?”
    Pardew wasn’t the real target.

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  • geordiemark

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #13

    ill only be happy when pardew has gone and Ashley sells up you can never trust this guy again that’s for sure

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #14

    Munster

    Yeah i think it would suit that way. This blog is actually the ONLY place i see pardew getting panned for all aspects of his life, let alone his management. Most of the media seem to rate him, as do many of the fans, or so i hear My son says there is very little in the way of anti-pardewness at the games (there will always be a bit, for almost any manager). He definitely has weaknesses, but they are certainly managable.

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  • whatsup

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #15

    Transfer sage – totally agree -LDJ looked composed and movement was good – think he’ll link up well with a pacy forward like Remy

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  • geordiemark

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #16

    cabaye is an excellent player theres no hiding that fact but cabaye is not the whole team that’s for sure without cabaye we should still be wining matches and that solely is down to pardew and the coaching staff its as simple as that really

    the way I see it theres no turning back Ashley does have to sack pardew and sell the club I think theres to many fans now really annoyed with Ashley and co even after kinnears gone

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  • lesh

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #17

    Have we forgotten that Chris Mort was complicit in the events that led to Keggan’s second walkaway and court case?

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #18

    T sage

    I could be wrong, but i am pretty sure you were an advocate (not a dark green pear 😀 ) of the tech coach in summer. Do you not think it would work now?

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  • croftus5678

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #19

    cabaye would have forced himself into a move after all the trouble of last time and them having to keep him sweet to not sell him 6 month’s ago so you cant blame them for him going now.

    replacement should have been sorted though no excuse for that.

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  • estechco

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #20

    And the Press Association know what exactly about MA’s thinking?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #21

    I don’t get how Ashley gets the credit for the signings last year, if I was a company boss and I sent my assistant down to the shop for sarnies for everyone but didn’t give him any money then watched him squirm while everyone gave him shit while they went hungry, then the next day went to the shop myself but with money this time, I’d be some type of cretin to take the plaudits.

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  • estechco

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #22

    Assuming this story has any truth whatsoever (which I doubt), MA will doubtless employ someone mid August who will then have ample excuse to say he wasn’t up to speed in time to get deals over the line?

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  • oldbobaycliffe

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #23

    watching the sky transfer shows the ex director of liverpool has been on quite a bit and he impressed me perhaps we could sign him up as md.as we seem to need someone at the top with football experience

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  • wattos

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #24

    “According to the Press Association this morning, Newcastle owner Mike Ashley is in no hurry to replace the departed Director of Football”

    True because Denis Wise is on a 3-week cruise around the Carribean…

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #25

    markaccus

    Not anymore no. I did in the summer though.

    My opinion has changed as I have seen us play some very good football in spells under Pardew this season. The problem I have with him is that he must see we look more of a threat when playing attacking football and seen to concede less, yet we keep going back to defensive rubbish too often.

    So I think pardew can set the team up to play well, just he doesn’t seem to want to as much as I think he should. (just my opinion of course)

    Although a good technical coach could improve him and give him confidence to play that way more I’m not convinced it would work……but under Ashley I think it’s the best we could hope for as he won’t hire a better manager (going off past records).

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  • dubzy

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #26

    LIKE I SAID ON PREVIOUS POST

    NO CHAIRMAN NO MD NO DOF…..SOUNDS TO ME A PERFECT SELLING CLUB

    WATCH THIS SPACE !!

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #27

    with JFK leaving or getting sacked or whatever still shoudnt alter the fact that Ashley must still go. people should not be fooled that he will change for the better of the club-he wont . We must still proceed to do everything in our power to get rid of him and find a suitable owner who can turn our club around.

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  • Graeme

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #28

    Lesh, from previous – I haven’t examined it all myself, no. It was raised by someone else who had started to research it, more info was provided by people from here who checked NUFC Accounts to verify it. They then checked the Land Registry to verify Planning had been sought – it has, by a Manchester Company for Student Accommodation.
    There doesnt seem to be any doubt that the land in question was transfered from NUFC to Mash Holdings. There is confirmation that a planning application has been submitted for Student Accommodation.
    The land above the Metro station “Is for sale” – It was proposed to be a casino when MA first bought the club, but that seems to have died a death!! Maybe its something the Local Press could research – they have the contacts, the resources!!!

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  • LocalZero

    Feb 4, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #29

    Jesus! Just managed to wade through all the news since I was last on.
    I refuse to take anything but a positive from Kinnear leaving and the speculation around it is driving me up the wall.
    The only thing we know with absolute certainty is that he’s gone. GET IN!!! I can’t bring myself to spend too much time thinking about why, because we’ll probably never know. What I do know is: I’m 100% sure he couldn’t pronounce the names of half the players and that he came across as a loose cannon, whose arrogant pronouncements about signing people and phoning any manager he liked resulted in sweet FA as regards positive transfer news. Therefore I’m 100% happy to hear that he’s gone. You have to take the few positives that come along with NUFC!….. now as for MA’s dismal record in appointing people…….

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  • geordiemark

    Feb 4, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #30

    the way I see it this is how Kinnear got the job in the first place, Ashley rings Kinnear and asks him if he can take over as DOF and just to sign season long loan players so he can take the whole amount of sky tv money out of the club ie 60 million then tells joe to sell cabaye at a profit so theres 20 million and this is what they done and now kinnears gone and that’s 80 million in ashleys back pocket

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  • wattos

    Feb 4, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #31

    stuart no9

    Here’s the link to the Forbes Billionaires list:

    http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/

    Start writing bud…

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  • banjax

    Feb 4, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #32

    For someone who is allegedly successful with his Sports Direct business, Mike Ashley is a total disaster when it comes to running a football club. If he had treat his retail customers like he has treated us Newcastle supporters he would be a busted flush by now because his retail customers would have walked out the door and never returned, unlike the loyal Toon followers put up with his cranky, spiteful habits. The best thing for all of us would be for Ashley to sell up. The next best would be to bring in a Chairman and Manager who are highly regarded, give them their say and some money and keep us all up to date by talking to us all on a daily basis. Some would think this is not much to ask, it certainly is’nt rocket science, but to Mike Ashley it’s the equivalent of giving an arm and a leg or losing some weight.

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  • geordiemark

    Feb 4, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #33

    what land does Newcastle united own ?? I didn’t know we owned land as well just apart from the training ground

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  • LocalZero

    Feb 4, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #34

    Oh, I’ve got some other positives as well:

    Most of our internationals still need to put a shift in to play at the WC, so can’t be down in the dumps for ever for their own sakes.

    De Jong has half a chance of being decent.

    We’re almost 100% safe from relegation after only 24 games!!!

    We’ve got the rest of the season and the summer transfer window to steady the ship and get back on course.

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  • geordiemark

    Feb 4, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #35

    LocalZero

    ill be a lot calmer when we get to 46 points

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 4, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #36

    geordiemark
    Don’t agree with that entirely

    Look at spurs when they lost Bale
    Where would Everton be this season with out lukaku?
    Or Liverpool with out Suarez?
    Or Manure with out Rooney?

    Not saying were a one man team but almost all our play went through Cabaye, the team was built around him, all our counter attacks went through him
    He’s a massive loss there’s no doubt about that for me and think it will take time for the team to adjust to playing with out such an influential player

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 4, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #37

    banjax

    that’s the difference between customers and fans though….Ashley needs to keep customers on side to buy his products, fans will come and back their team no matter what he does.

    He is taking advantage of a very loyal fan base.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 4, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #38

    Local zero,
    If your going to change user names can you stick to it to save confusion and to let other people know there’s not more than one person with the same views as you.
    Back on track, for what that exciting top ten finish how he’s going to lift those without WC aspirations in to more than just showing face on a Saturday I don’t know.

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  • catchy in norway

    Feb 4, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #39

    TS

    I think when pardew lets the players play we look good, I have no doubt in my mind about that,

    and when we do play well , it nearly always is the first half,

    so I tend to learn towards a good manager can get average players looking good, (SAF poyet ) and a poor manager makes good players look poor PARDEW take a bow please,,

    I know I do go on, but most of our wins are down to individual displays , not team displays

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 4, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #40

    T sage

    Fair enough. I agree pardew should attack more. I think over caution is one of the weaknesses i was refering to. Another is he is too much of a yes man these days. Maybe it is too late, maybe not.

    All in all, we just have to wait and see what the Fat c*ntroller does next.

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