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Kinnear May Have Been Even Worse Than Fans Thought

9:49 am, Wednesday, February 5th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 35 Comments

Fans were very pleased to see the back of Joe Kinnear, who was fired on Monday night, and it was yet another huge mistake made by owner Mike Ashley, to have appointed Joe into that position in the first place, and of course Joe was never equipped to do the job – and he ended up failing miserably.

mike ashley joe kinnear

The two pals at St. James’ Park

And he may have been even worse that fans thought – if that’s even possible – because it was Lee Charnley  who was the one who  traveled to Paris last week to sort out the details of Yohans’ transfer, and it seems Newcastle got £20M plus a possible £3M in add-ons for Yohan – which was a good deal for the club – at least financially.

It seems Newcastle may have to continue with Ashley as the owner, but the simple truth is that Mike just hasn’t the ambition that is needed to be Newcastle’s owner.

And Geordie fans are simply not content to be a middle of the road club – we must push for a top four position in the Premier League, and do what’s necessary to get there.

But that will be difficult to achieve with Ashley basically setting the strategy of the club,  in charge of the money, and also in charge of all transfers.

And even after the calamities of the last nine days, Newcastle are still well positioned in 8th position in the league ,and 15 points above the drop zone and only 3 points from safety,  so we are hoping the manager and players can make a very good recovery in the final 14 games of the season.

And then in the summer, we need to have it be  one of the best for Newcastle and bring in some top players to the club, so we can push for a top place in the league next season.

That’s our hope, and maybe Mike Ashley can shell out some of the money we will have at that time, and the club should get around £80M  from the Premier League by finishing around 8th in the league table this season, and Newcastle also have £20M from the sale of Cabaye.

£100M should be enough to bring in five or more top players – even if we only pay out only £40M of what’s available – and do it Mike Ashley’s thrifty way.

Newcastle are coming into some big money, as are other Premier League sides, which is why there is panic at some clubs, who are threatened with relegation.

And an indication of that is West Ham may go to court, after the FA failed to turn around Andy Carroll’s red card against Swansea, and the news is it may cost West Ham £75M if the club is relegated.

It’s a pity Andy got himself sent off after missing the first half of the season  through injury, and what’s that about the Premier League being all about money these days?

It’s so very true.

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35 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Toon Tang // Feb 5, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    Pic looks like there plotting a rape of some sort

  • 2 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 5, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    Stuart
    I must admit i had a moment of relief and optimism when i saw JFK had gone
    It dwindled a bit when the club said no replacement this season would be bought in ( seems to be a theme that!)

    It’s gone completely again now that i remember this interview

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8971034/alan-pardew-says-newcastle-owner-mike-ashley-sometimes-doesnt-understand-how-football-works

  • 3 theartfuldodger // Feb 5, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    TS

    Yup that pretty much sums up Ashleys reign.

    Dont hire anyone who obstructs his 4 simple steps.

  • 4 Markaccus // Feb 5, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    70TWO

    I can believe that. He probably went into ashleys office and said “boss, i have sold kebab” ashley replies ” did you get the 25 mil?” And joe says ” No, i got something better! They gave me these” -produces tin of hienz- …
    Ashley: “BEANS???”
    JFK ” No boss, these are MAGIC beans!!”

  • 5 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 5, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    70TWO
    There are so many rumours flying around
    One of the rags are saying its due to over 4000 season tickets being cancelled after losing to the scum

    Unless good old Joe phones talk sport drunk again we will probably never know

  • 6 Transfer Sage // Feb 5, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    dodger

    and that’s what a lot of fans from other clubs don’t get when they say “you’re 8th, why complain”

    it’s not that the league position is an issue, it’s that every time we have a chance to kick on nobody really comes in or we sell a player.

  • 7 Markaccus // Feb 5, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    Tads

    Rephrase that last comment…..
    “We WILL find out WHEN jfk phones talksport drunk” :D

  • 8 magicbus // Feb 5, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    Tbh I think we may now start going on a slump and drop down the league like the preverbial stone. No real playmaker, think we will get well and truly stuffed at Chelski, confidence will plummett, Hope I`m wrong

  • 9 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 5, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Ah yes the old classic
    “Joe and the not magic beanstalk”
    Turns out it was just a weed growing out of a discarded can round the back of his caravan

  • 10 Rainrix // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    Markaccus….. JK: Don’t be mad boss, the frenchies tell me that if we plant the beans and slay the giant we can have his treasure. Thats the stipulated “bonuses” that the frogs offered us. Aren’t i a genius boss aren’t i? (Gets pat on head by ashley.)

    Actually i think we’ve solved it JK died fighting the giant and its actually a massive cover up by the club saying he resigned. Honestly makes a lot more sense than this canceled season ticket malarky :)

  • 11 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    magicbus
    The only possible saving grace is our ten point cushion should see us keep a slim gap over the Chelsea and Spurs fixtures but we need to turn around the performances very quickly

  • 12 Markaccus // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Tads

    yeah he can be seen there every weekend, standing on top of the can shouting “HERE GOLDEN GOOSEY GOOSEY, UNCLE JOE WANTS AN EGGY WEGGY”

  • 13 LooneyToon41 // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Laudrup gone. And I see from the thread that many would prefer him in charge. Blimey – madness!
    Swansea’s season (with Europa) seems to have mirrored our own season last year.
    I’ve got no problem with us selling Cabaye, as he wanted to do. End of. Like many, the issue is that he wasn’t replaced, because we didn’t work hard enough (or in the right way) to get a replacement in.
    JFK’s bullying personality just doesn’t work and offends everyone.
    I’m also fearful of the next few games, especially Chelski as they are on a real high after the City win.

  • 14 70TWO // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Steve Harper has an effective plan for NUFC which would be simple to implement and straight forward to announce:

    * Top half finish this season.

    * Some one to communicate with the fans.

    * Be serious about Cup competitions.

    * A believable Mission Statement.

    NUFC are a great club, we are not struggling in the league and should be looking forward with optimism, not continuously at the past with a grudge. If the relationship between the fans and those in charge was more constructive, starting with the Fans Forum, the atmosphere around the club would be a lot more positive. There does not need to be any additional appointments, just a redefining of roles and a greater sense of purpose by the end of the season.

  • 15 The next Mike Williamson // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Ambition to push for top 4 should be dream of coming 4th as it is no longer possible without spending £50m a year. When we last were a top 4 team we had one of the greatest managers of all time (SBR) and he did not have Citeh and Chelsea to contend with. If he did I suspect we’d have been in about 6th position – not far from where we are now. It’s a different league to what it was when Bobby was in charge. Steady improvement & exciting football is the best we can hope for. Bring in Laundrup & Cortese!

  • 16 Markaccus // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Rainrix

    TONIGHT ON TALKSPORT…. JOE KINNEAR KILLED BY MYTHICAL BEING. PHONE IN!

  • 17 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:09 AM

    Ah well he’s gone now, he done nout for 7 months but pick up cheques, kind of like being on benefits with a free season ticket thrown in

    Let’s all move on a try to block out the fact he ever returned, forget the lot!
    From that first inebriated phone call to talk sport/ sky sports to his the no players will leave drafted pile of the steaming stuff

    It never happened it was just a really really really bad dream

  • 18 Transfer Sage // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:11 AM

    chelsea will stuff us, but they would have with cabaye, grenier and cabella in the side…the ripped city apart countless times on monday. It’s not a game to worry about.

    We have a lot of teams coming up which are all in or around the relegation zone, they are the games we will see how motivated this team is now to keep fighting even though we are safe and had our main man taken from us.

  • 19 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    70TWO
    It’s always an absolute pleasure to listen to Harper talk about the toon

    He 100% buys into the understanding of the club as a whole, including fans is about
    It’s a lifestyle not just a weekend hobby, the passion he has for the club would make him a fine club ambassador but sadly i don’t think he left the club on great terms

  • 20 Transfer Sage // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    70two

    that’s fine, i’m happy for steady progression but not what we are doing now which is buy in bulk, establish we are safe, sell our best asset or don’t buy, then repeat.

  • 21 70TWO // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    The whole Cabaye deal was a mess and yet gain not professionally handled. But ‘at the end of the day’ we have other players in the squad who now have a chance to establish themselves, however they have half a season whereas Cabaye had two.

  • 22 Rainrix // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Markaccus…. Just got a call from newcastle city council, and yes the giant has been awarded freedom of the city and a knighthood by the queen for services to humanity, along with a noble peace price nomination.

  • 23 Transfer Sage // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    tads

    I love harper, the guy sums up what the club is all about. It’s no surprise there is discontent with him, shearer, keegan, and many others.

  • 24 outside the box // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    tads@5
    i understand anyone paying season ticket by direct debit ..cannot cancel season ticket unless they applied before transfer window shut..ie 31.01.14 for season staring in august….
    bbc saying ashley upset over fee…are we to believe jfk had final say above ashley on transfers …..answers needed…cannot be long before joes on some radio show

  • 25 Transfer Sage // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    70two

    the cabaye issue is a mess, but they don’t learn

    we did the same when we sold carroll (somehow best stayed fit and actually found form), we sold Ba (couldn’t get remy in so made do with an out of form cisse and just survived), now we are doing it with cabaye

    if it was a one off people would be forgiving, but it’s not

  • 26 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Outside
    Don’t doubt that at all mate, just pointing out one of the rumours the media are pushing
    A lot are reporting a lot have canceled, could of been at anytime

    But yeah the point was we’ll never know why old joe was told to go

  • 27 70TWO // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    Transfer Sage

    I also have my doubts which ruminate without that lack of credible information from the club. However some posters seem to think CL can happen at a click of the fingers, there are another 19 clubs in ‘contention’. We finished 5th with a lot of luck and a following wind.

    I am not directing this comment deliberately at you.

  • 28 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    Sage
    Met Harps a few times, the blokes an absolute gent

    Loves talking toon, that’s why it was genuinely draining to hear his “the club is bleeding a slow death speech”
    To hear some one as passionate as Harper losing faith is deeply depressing tbh
    Sad to see a servant like him ousted from the club

  • 29 Transfer Sage // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    tads

    before he signed for hull he was playing cricket in my league this summer just gone, but the week before we played them he went to hull so obviously couldn’t play

    70two

    no problem, champs league takes time, even with huge money, took city 3 years i think to get in. The key is to keep building, when we have a chance to kick on we only sign 1 player (anita) or sell our better players like cabaye….there seems to be no plan to progress.

  • 30 70TWO // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    Transfer Sage

    The ‘revolving door’ approach to transfers does seem to be a very dangerous approach but works for a very few clubs, is it Valencia or one of those Spanish Clubs? The G.Bale deal is almost working for Spurs. (It has been discussed here before)

    A more practical and favourable approach would be to sell off those players failing in quality, with minimal loss due to low buying price and maintain strong squad with financial support from TV money. Is Ashley just being greedy or is the ‘extra’ money from player sales being re-invested in the club and/or new players?

    However, Pardews presence is limiting the development of the whole squad as he has always been reliant on individuals, hence it all falls apart when a top player is sold. I hope Pardews continued managerial development will bring improvement in this regard.

  • 31 anthc // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    I heard he was losing the plot. Anyway god riddance. I don’t think laudrups the man either. Steve harper is a gent went to a recent talk in and he had some stories. Apparently the clubs always been for sale just no ones met ashleys astronomical price. Everything at the club is for sale for the right price.

  • 32 Jeff from Benwell // Feb 5, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    The only way to play Chelsea is to go for one point and do a West Ham on them.I don’t mind us playing Victorian footy for this one fixture.
    My team
    Krul Elliot (2 goalies always foxes them )
    Debuchy Haidara Santon Taylor Willamson MYM Coloccini
    Dummett (as does 8 across the back)
    Tiote (constantly trying 45 yard screamers)

  • 33 isleofmanman // Feb 5, 2014 at 1:33 PM

    Nah. There’s nobody out there who didn’t think that the man was a buffoon. He didn’t disappoint…

  • 34 nufcusa // Feb 5, 2014 at 1:59 PM

    Ed – we are 8th in the league mate. Why all the talk in almost every blog post about being 15 points off the drop zone and 3 points from safety and making sure we get 1 more win!

    The players have done well overall on league play this season. They are exactly where are talent level suggests we should be and talk of relegation is ridiculous. Yes we have lost games we would expect to do better in bit we have also won games we should not be winning.

    The league position is fair and acceptable. Had we been going to Wembley or be on track in the fa cup them the negativity would be almost evaporated. I understand you put time and effort into these posts but sometimes less is more.

    The constant negative vibes and posts without substance are pointless and stir up the wrong debate. I would love to see educated and emotional debates which have done standing on here.

    Sadly we get the first comment being ” looks like they are plotting done kind of rape”!

    Subs it all up

  • 35 nufcusa // Feb 5, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    Ed – we are 8th in the league mate. Why all the talk in almost every blog post about being 15 points off the drop zone and 3 points from safety and making sure we get 1 more win!

    The players have done well overall on league play this season. They are exactly where are talent level suggests we should be and talk of relegation is ridiculous. Yes we have lost games we would expect to do better in but we have also won games we should not be winning.

    The league position is fair and acceptable. Had we been going to Wembley or be on track in the fa cup them the negativity would be almost evaporated. I understand you put time and effort into these posts but sometimes less is more.

    The constant negative vibes and posts without substance are pointless and stir up the wrong debate. I would love to see educated and emotional debates which have some standing on here.

    Sadly we get the first comment being ” looks like they are plotting some kind of rape”!

    Sums it all up




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