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Pardew Bemoans The Loss Of This Player

9:44 am, Tuesday, February 11th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 227 Comments

Alan Pardew has said Newcastle will try to finish above Manchester United this season, and if we can do that it will be the first time  Newcastle have ever finished above the Red Devils in the Premier League era – so it’s something to play for.

Fabricio Coloccini +XAiDgHivPe-m

Fabricio Coloccini - missed his leadership

But it’s more the decline of Manchester United since Alex Ferguson retired, than Newcastle being good – but we suppose it’s still something to strive for this season, and we did manage to beat them at Old Trafford for the first time since 1972 – so we could even do the double over them too.

And the Newcastle manager mentioned yesterday that Newcastle have struggled lately, because they have missed their captain Coloccini big time:

“We’ve lost too many bodies for the standard to be where it was – that was when everybody was fit and w;eve had key injuries and suspensions – and we’ve lost a great player in Cabaye, and all that impacts training, but I do see a focus in training which is not lost on me.”

“I do expect by the time we get to the Aston Villa game we’re hoping to have all of our players back including Coloccini, because he’s been missed for his leadership, let alone his playing ability.”

“It’s not just Colo’s ability but everything about him.” “We’ve missed his nonchalance and the security he gives us and that calmness. You can’t put a price on that.”

And talking about Coloccini begs the question whether he will still be with us come September.

There are going to be some big changes in the squad over the summer, as fringe players leave and hopefully some very good players are brought in.

And if Coloccini does leave, that will affect the side big time, and will bring to an end six years on Tyneside for the Argentine International, who has turned out to be a good buy, at just over £10M from Spanish club Deportivo in August of 2008.

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227 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Markaccus // Feb 11, 2014 at 9:47 AM


    You are the only one who does any whining

    Any time you want, pal. Plenty of weekend shopping trips come in from norway. Jump on a boat and you can try and smack me. I cant afford Norways idiotic prices otherwise i’d come there. Seriously. Anytime.

  • 2 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    21catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 9:51 AM


    my own personnel opinion is , I don’t see it

    what little improvements he may have made to some players I outweighed by the drastic loss of ability in nearly all of our players

    it could be argued that perch an Williamson are his 2 great achievements, but then it could be said that they have stud still an the others have fallen backwards , just given the illusion they got better

  • 3 Kris // Feb 11, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    Are people serious?

    Santos was very bad against Chelsea. He can’t defend. I think he was involved in their two first goals. He is just running behind and waiting for the player, he is totally not aggressiv. We will loose on Wedensday if he is playing.

    And I hope people that voted for LDJ was just kidding. He was so poor. OMG. He looks like Lovenkrands, but he isnt better than Shola. We need a better striker than him in summer.

  • 4 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    mark ASS

    your the type of guy I imagine just skips along without a care in the world,
    lost in your own little world , twirling your finger through your hair , day dreaming about the day pardew touched your hand

  • 5 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 9:57 AM


    I do think perch and willo improved a lot, especially seeing willo this year…he has kicked on a lot.

    I don’t think players are any worse, just our system doesn’t let them play to their best.

    got to question people like marv, hba, cisse, santon, taylor….there work rate or lack of fitness/gaining wait is shockingly poor and that is down to them.

    the problem is we have few options so can’t really drop them either

  • 6 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 11, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    Teams get injuries, every team does. It is wrong to only believe you can get by if the whole team is fit. That naturally comes with being a manager.

    We were knocked out of both cups and we weren’t even in Europe so Pinocchio has had an easier ride with it than most clubs.

    There have been, up until the last week or so, capable players left of the bench but if they have been Pardewed then how can they be expected to just come in and perform when their self-belief and motivational state is in tatters? They can’t.

  • 7 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    Transfer, I do think Perch improved, however he was captain at Forest wasn’t he? So in reality, did he not just get back to the way he played there?

    Plus, with the amount of containing going on, it makes defenders jobs a whole lot easier as bodies block routes and corner players somewhat.

  • 8 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:03 AM


    i think we make defenders look worse as when sitting deep we invite pressure and nobody really deals with players, we don’t track runners well, we always lose men, let people run past…it’s not great

  • 9 Markaccus // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:04 AM


    You are only further proving my points about you. Keyboard warrior. Probably best to keep your fantasies off the internet too. I am uncomfortable that you daydream about me skipping and twirling my hair. Awkward or what!? Sexual harrasment i call it.

  • 10 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    22catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    croft us

    I don’t understand your thinking , you don’t need a creative MF , not at all,
    in fact if you would care to check how many points cabaye won us , it’s not that many, he had many games where you never seen him , and I’m betting if he had not have scored those 2 last goals there would not have been such an outcry,
    he didn’t win many man of the match awards, tiote has won more,
    and let’s face it he was promised a move, he was playing for it, and if he had not got it the toys would have came out the pram again,

    what the focus should be on is how do we get our 3 good strikers scoring goals,

    because that’s the real travesty right now , even with cabaye they where feeding off scraps,

  • 11 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Congratulations to Adam Armstrong you’ll be like a new signing, hope he’s signed a long contract as he’s sat on the bench were unlikely to see him for 5years then Pardew will claim he made the young lad.

    Would it not make sense to send him on loan now until end of season as have him on the bench? Surely there’s 3 or 4 first team players who’ll get a start before him so why waste a space on the bench?

    I agree with Catchy finishing above a poor Man U team isn’t anything to brag about if they were pushing for CL or something fair enough but if their having their worse season for twenty years is it really much of a achievement? Another feather in Pardews cap :(

    Colo’s main strength is reading the game which has gone a miss in last couple seasons, he gets caught out regularly when he’s mis read the game, which is quite often at the minute. I see why fans rate him as he passes ball out of defence and can look cultured, but for me the rest of his game is lacking and except the season we finished 5th he’s been average at best.

  • 12 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:08 AM


    dream on ;)

  • 13 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    Catchy. Transfer sage

    I’d go with that… I don’t think Pardew actually makes them worse players but his formation and system definitely handicaps the players and makes them look bad. Due to being so rigid we never look fluid or have runners moving into space etc.

  • 14 Markaccus // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:11 AM


    We established that you were doing the dreaming. And as for the wink, it further fules the fire. You are, indeed, FLAMING.

    In this battle of witts, i am fighting an unarmed man. Or is it a rodent?

  • 15 Markaccus // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    *fuels. F#cking galaxy keypad.

  • 16 Rotonda heights // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    Pardew really is the absolute king of all time excuse makers. If he’s so unhappy why doesn’t he just leave.

  • 17 Rotonda heights // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:15 AM


    Due to being so rigid we never look fluid or have runners moving into space etc.

    Nailed it there. no cohesion or fluidity whatsoever.

  • 18 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:16 AM


    how can anyone judge the players if we never get to see them really perform?

    take remy , good before he came , then has dropped off from lack of chances created

    cisse , we know he can finish , his history in Germany and his first half season is proof if that

    HBA , he has the ability to take on teams an win games in his own, adding defensive duties to his game takes away from what he gives you up top

    jonas , honestly , was my fave player , his last 2 seasons where turned into a joke,

    tell me one kid who has improved ? there the easiest to improve, if he carnt make an instant impact, he is not good enough, or pardew will lots if kids into the first team and expect them to lead the way,

  • 19 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:20 AM


    Nancy boy,?

    save your idiotic talk for your other minser friends
    mr coco , toonking

    go for a walk

    or watch she male porn or something that you know about

  • 20 Rotonda heights // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:21 AM


    if only I had hair to skip and twirl

  • 21 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    12Rebbeca from 7 miles aw
    I could go with that,

  • 22 Markaccus // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:24 AM


    Resorting to base insults?
    Conversation is over then. Such a shame, you are normally so insightful. You can have the last word now if you really want. It might help lower your blood pressure.

  • 23 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    I’ve had an idea chaps!!!

    Every time we disagree and argue we should put a quid in a box, within a fortnight the people using this blog alone would raise enough money to buy the club ;)

  • 24 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    mark ass

    thank you for your concern , but honestly you are to much work,

    have a wonderful life ;)

  • 25 Rotonda heights // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    i wonder if there is any other club in the world that can split opinion so massively on Pardew and Ash etc.

    I just see an average manager not the worst, but mediocre and delusional, appointed by a brilliant businessman who has absolutely no clue about football.

    Oh for an SBR and KK who all the fans wanted and liked and for a John hall type of owner before he sold out the dream

  • 26 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    2 weeks

    wow, I think less

  • 27 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    Nowadays im sick of the drabble coming out of Percy mouth.

    He says all the nice things, which are great to hear, but performs rubbish where it matters. Baffling subs, stupid tactics etc

    He’s so damn lucky he’s coaching a newcastle team with great international players whose individual quality can see us scrap games and win a few.

    If not for players like Tiote, Cabaye and Krul, Debuchy i think he’d have us in the bottom 3 all season long.

  • 28 The next Mike Williamson // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    Taylor & Williamson can’t play together. They’re both head-the-balls – big dopey English players that only have strength and ariel ability. They need someone who can read the game next to them. It would be like playing Shola & Heskey upfront.

  • 29 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Even now if Ashley change his ways I’d be prepared to forgive and forget, but he’d have to install Someone like Bobby as DOF and a Keegan type as manager then allow them to use the cash we generate, I’m not asking for Man city type investment etc just a fighting chance.

    When I say Bobby and Keegan I don’t mean like for like just two people who know the area the club and have a passion for it like the fans, if he’d do that there’d be very few complaints.

  • 30 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:38 AM


    Well for me cisse is a poor footballer, good finisher but that’s it, doesn’t cut it long term in the prem league for me, need more than one string to your bow.

    Marv and HBA don’t do anywhere near enough defensively for me, it’s not about sitting back but about chasing down players, sometimes dropping back etc….take hazard for example, offers 10 times more than hba going forward but works 10 times harder going back too.

    remy has had a good few chances and just not been as clinical

  • 31 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    This is purely a fantasy question but.

    How many people would forgive Ashley and get behind him if he brought Keegan in as DOF and let him choose a new manager etc was given the all the transfer money and let the club support itself as he’s always said he would.

    Maybe not Keegan but you know what I mean someone of that ilk and a manager who also understood the area but let them have full control on the playing side and gave them the cash?

    Who’d forgive and forget?

  • 32 Markaccus // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:42 AM


    Yesterday i was talking to tds about investment. Given where we are now, with what i see as a restrictive regime, it would only take a slight tweak in his policy for us to compete for UCL. He just doesnt seen to want to take that step.

  • 33 mindshaft // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    Catchy – have you not seen HBA the last couple of games, he plays for himself, barely sees a pass and constantly loses the ball due to trying to take on the whole team himself – sadly he has more than enough talent but doesn’t have a footballing brain ala Rooney, Hazard, Mata etc – the main reason he’ll be a peripheral player no matter where he ends up

  • 34 Markaccus // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:44 AM


    Forgive maybe, if it worked out well. Forget, no. I would still be worried in the back of my mind he would screw things up with another idiotic decision

  • 35 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:45 AM


    My biggest problem with Ashley has never been players, we have rarely had a good, full squad in my 20+ years.

    What I don’t like is the lies (proven in court), the lack of respect for fans, the disdain they treat domestic cups with, the removal of the club from the local community, it’s all business and no longer an enjoyment for a lot of fans.

  • 36 jayphoto // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    makes me die a little bit inside when Pardew talks. Would have much more respect for him if he said something closer to the truth…
    Coloccini hasn’t been great this year. The only centre half that’s really shone has been ‘the other guy’ Willo! Personally I thought he looked best alongside MYM though I understand why Mapou is out of the team, he’s had some shockers!
    On Armstrong from previous thread – way way too soon to get excited about this lad! we’ve been here so many times before with different players…and no doubt this time next year we’ll be saying the same about Jonathyn Quinn…
    Pardew’s not brought 1 player into the first team squad that’s been a mainstay of the starting 11! Last one was Andy Carroll who came in under Hughton (playing regularly, not debut)
    For me Pardew doesn’t trust the youngsters enough! From what i’ve seen this year Dummett or Haidara should have been ahead of Santon and Sammy should have played many more games than he has (actually creates stuff and puts balls into the box) but thing is 1 bad half and Pardew will never play them again whereas he will ignore 40/50 bad games from certain other players
    If Arma or Campbell are going to have a chance, they should be given the remaining season games alongside the big lad de jong! Theres nothing left to play for really and i’m hopeful most toon fans would allow them time to get up and running! I’d be more understanding of poorer performances if I could see we were blooding youngsters and preparing them for premier league football

  • 37 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:46 AM


    fully agree…’s not just pardew who hasn’t got the best out of ben arfa, it’s every manager. He doesn’t have the brain, work rate of fitness to play top level consistently.

  • 38 daztoon // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:47 AM


    I get what you mean about the nfl having specialist coaches but Pardew wouldn’t need any, we have excellent coaches already here at the club.

    One thing they do we’ll is the salary capping which puts teams more teams on an even keel

  • 39 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:48 AM


    I’ve mentioned a couple times I think Ashley owning the club is down to the advertising for SD.

    And I agree he doesn’t seem to want to invest, when we finished 5th if he’d brought in one or two not even spent much last year could have been avoided, same this year summer and winter.

    If I didn’t know better I’d think he was selling up, with not replacing joe and willie it does make me think a change of direction is on the cards wether that’s with Ashley or someone else is anyone’s guess.

  • 40 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM


    I don’t know much about the coaching staff so don’t know how good they are, hear conflicting reports on their quality too off bloggers so unsure on what is true.

    I like the team salary cap, doesn’t stop clubs paying players whatever they like, just means that you can’t pay them all top money…should be brought in to even it.

    But then again the prem league don’t want it even, they want as many top players as possible to sell the league around the world.

  • 41 daztoon // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Sissoko would be a great in the nfl as a kick returner but then again might fumble just before the end zone ,like he does on the edge of the box

  • 42 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:53 AM


    you focus on there weak sides, you could add attitude to that also

    I remember watching a game v Man U , jonas was captain , he pointed to there player at a corner and just watched him run past and score

    there has been many games lately where goofy has not picked up his guy . and goals have been scored against us, marv is a better offensive player than goofy , and both are not best at defending

  • 43 JK // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Thats Ashlay, asset stripping but no intention of selling – thats business. Good business, hes smarter than you all.

    Journos just making it up

  • 44 Greebol1892 // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Under our current manager, Armstrong will be lucky if he gets even 10mins against Spurs. If he does, it will be the same scenario as Campbell and we won’t give him the ball.
    Pards says that having a 17-year old on the bench is better than a 16-year old…. so there you have it; STROLLA IS OUR BEST PLAYER – OFFICIAL.
    Yanga M’Biwa is better than Colo & Taylor put together:- he reads danger and attacks the ball. Colo has never been able to read long direct balls into our defence. Taylor is a master at backing-off and backing-off and only defends the 6-yard box. Yes MYM has made mistakes but so have all our CBs…… he’s still the best CB at the club. Anyone who thinks Taylor is better, has no idea about defending nor about football.
    Fair mention to Willo who was shocking with Simpson next to him but has stepped up to the mark. But he has already proved to be the perfect partner for MYM….. then dropped…… oh dear.

  • 45 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    So you’re answers no, like me I dislike him for all same reasons that’s why I was putting the question out there.
    You think he’s passed point of no return and couldn’t get fans back on side? I reckon if he did what I’ve suggested and spent 30mil on transfers a lot of the fans would forget everything.

    Jay photo
    Pretty much spot on, Mbiwa I feel sorry for as it doesn’t matter wether he’s played good or bad he’s always dropped and that alone must have broke his confidence.
    Which to me is pretty much the same thing done to the kids, we build them up saying their good etc then drop them into a game altogether when there just not ready to play in a team all together and wonder why they don’t gel.

  • 46 jayphoto // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Really think something might be in the offing for a sale in the summer. Kinnear going but not being replaced suggests that. He was very damaging for the brand, I expect Ashley to sell after receiving the TV money for this season in June and the brand name has regained some respectability in the next few months

  • 47 70TWO // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Alan Pardew is like a STD, he is an irritating side effect of doing something I love. The silver tongued, lothario continues to talk himself up in the managerial role and makes himself look like Swiss Tony, “…its like making love to a beautiful lady”. Comical, delusional and very inadequate.

  • 48 jayphoto // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    rumour is Red Bull is looking to buy into a premier league club…. although i’d guess everton would be cheaper and more attractive…theres hope!

  • 49 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:57 AM


    gouffy is much better offensively than marv…look at his goals and assists return, marv has dropped massively in my estimations.

    I think the whole team let men run off them, but then at least some try…some of our ‘better’ players don’t do a lot at all.

    Our team is decent but no where near as good as some think in my opinion…hba wouldn’t get into a single team above us i don’t think

  • 50 daztoon // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:58 AM


    I think the Salery cap in the Nfl is as a whole say 200 Million for every club ( just a rough guess).So you could only have so many top earners at your club,then the rest made up of rookies .
    If you had five players on say 100 million between them,the rest of the squad would have to be under the 100 million left

  • 51 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 10:59 AM


    i do think a lot would forgive him if he spent some money but it’s also just money he hasn’t spent before.

    I think he needs to really just engage fans and not have everything shrouded in secrecy.

  • 52 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM


    yeh, i like how it works….makes things a bit fairer.

  • 53 Greebol1892 // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    ….I see with Kinnear gone, Pardew feels like he has to step up to the plate & barf more gunge about wanting to win a trophy. You don’t do that by resting your best players. Gobshite.

  • 54 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM


    The STD closest to Pardew is THRUSH
    Because he’s a irratating c**t too.

  • 55 70TWO // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Transfer Sage

    Wondered if you had seen this article and what your thoughts were? Sorry if you have commented about it before, has similarities to what Given was saying.

  • 56 Markaccus // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:01 AM


    in the long run, i think it would be better if he just sold up and effed off. F#ck knows who would buy us though.

  • 57 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    That should be a topic for a article for Ed

    Potential new owners for NUFC
    NUFC fans who can afford to buy NUFC

    A bit like cribs on MTV but looking at new owners instead.

  • 58 daztoon // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:06 AM


    Yeah if that was brought in ,in football then every club in their respective divisions could compete on an even playing field and would weed out the good from the bad mangers.

  • 59 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:06 AM


    i hadn’t seen it….a very good read.

    For me people commenting on the club seem to miss the point, we know we can’t compete with the likes of man city, chelsea, etc but why can’t we be developing our football and commercial areas to compete with the likes of spurs, there is no reason we can’t do that.

    now I know they aren’t much ahead but had two top 4 finishes in the last 5 years and spent the rest of the time in the top 5…we need to look to develop to that.

    It’s not something we can do by not improving our squad when we get to a good place and using it as an excuse to cash in our not buy….we need to constantly improve, not only when we are in danger or dropping down the league. I just can’t see it under ashley.

  • 60 Markaccus // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:08 AM


    Pimp my club?? :D

  • 61 70TWO // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:09 AM


    It is something we have to live with for supporting a Hoochie Mamma of a club. It is like watching a pole dance, titillating excitement but ultimately unsatisfactory.

  • 62 Iain Dowie // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Why do some of you keep putting Mbiwa in your best 11?, Hes like the second coming of Titus Bramble. One of the clumsiest players ive seen play for us in a long time.

  • 63 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    Iain Dowie

    when he played alongside willo early in the season he looked very good i thought, taylor is much much worse these days

  • 64 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    That article is talking about basically how were never out the news, which I why I’ve said many times I believe Ashley is here for the free advertising. How many products/companies are associated so heavily with a club you think of the product as soon as teams mentioned?

    I do disagree with the you need a billionaire to buy success look at Bayern they’ve done a cracking job spending way less than the other teams in Europe and if I only wanted success that’s thee rote I’d want to take. Fantastic football and the fans are looked after not robbed or abused.

  • 65 jayphoto // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Think is with Ashley, it’s never too late for Newcastle fans to forgive and take you to heart. Invest some (not a lot, just enough to show theres ambition) start talking to the fans and stop mugging us all off. If there was some form of honest communication from the upper echelons of the club I feel alot of the FCB and MAOC would fade away.
    Honestly can’t think Mike Ashley brought NUFC just for advertising (and the TV money wasn’t as great when he brought us) he must have had some plan and ambition…. it would have been must cheaper just to buy the advertising….

  • 66 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Ye with TINO presenting ;)

  • 67 stuart no9 // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    Rebbeca——– hahaha -thrush , quality

  • 68 wolfshead@toon // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:16 AM


    if pards told the truth he would be signing on next day he has the best job he is ever likely to have well until hodgson leaves that is haha

  • 69 jayphoto // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    I still think Mapou Yanga Mbiwa could come good! I saw him for Montpellier in Ligue 1 and champions league and he was exceptional! I don’t think he’s going to come good for Pardew though!
    In the summer we either need to change the manager (i’d prefer that) or truly back him with players he actually wants, whether that be Bent, Tomkins etc… if he’s the manager he should be trusted and backed and then any failings be on his head.

  • 70 jayphoto // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    @wolfshead Ha yea thats true! I didn’t mean about the powers that be at the club though! Just tired of the same excuses! Saying we where brilliant in the first half against Chelsea was a shocker! We’ve been average and below this season far more often than we’ve been above! One day i’d like him just to come out and say ‘i got the tactics wrong. I will no longer be using the suprise tactic of shola in the 60th minute and launching it’……

  • 71 stuart no9 // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    talking about potential owners . Are there not enough local millionaires .or north east born millionaires , ie singers, ex players, actors , who are NUFC daft and would gladly put together a consortium to buy the club . I think it has already been talked about but nowt seemed to come of it. I am going o a kevin keegan dinner and talk in , and that is one of the things I want to put to him. I really think , if the opportunity arose KK would be one of the first to put his hand in his pocket. any thoughts ???????

  • 72 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    Jay photo
    Only thing I’ve ever heard that I thought made sense regarding why Ashley bought us is that he’d heard the Manseed family was looking to buy us and he thought if he did all the leg work and owned club outright he’d make a quick 50mil torn over.

    Since he screwed all that up the advertising has been to good to miss, as the article above says were never out the news.
    None of it has puts a bad light on SD there just associated not affiliated with us. He lost 400mil a couple years ago then since he put advertising everywhere re named the ground etc at the same time as opening in France the SD brand was never off the news for months in connection to us which didn’t cost him or them a penny.
    The result is NUFC lose 10 to 20 mil a year income but he made 800milion from SD and his other brands in that time!

    Not all down to NUFC but people under estimate what the link between NUFC and SD has had on the growth of his other companies.

  • 73 expatmag // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    G/day guys

    I see the usual suspect is rearing his ugly side again…

  • 74 70TWO // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Transfer Sage

    The door of opportunity is once again open for Ashley to prove himself, invest in players to keep us competitive for 5-7th next season with a good run in the Cups. My only concern is that any new players will now be only bedding in next season, a ready made excuse for AP. I was hoping the next two seasons would be make or break for AP, if he does not provide consistent 5-7th finishes then he should be replaced and all the more easier (financially) once he reaches half way in his contract.

    However, I digress from the point of the article which was… the need to establish mediocrity before being able to really challenge the more customary CL clubs. The article also showed, through the comments of some, how much of an effort it is to realise fans expectations. However Ashley could have made things a whole lot easier with a more professional approach to customer relations.

  • 75 expatmag // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:29 AM


    I doubt KK has a pot to piss in after the debts his soccer circus ran up

  • 76 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Transfer Sage

    you carnt fully judge our players under pardew, it is so unfair to

    I think pardew plays them out of position to much,

    goofy , I think he is more comfortable up front than playing on the left,

    remy is better playing on the left than up front

    HBA, you have said it yourself, pardew even said it, we all would love him to be tried as a old fashioned no 10,
    he play left or right, he has even had him as a striker, so why not try it?

    and I know your not so stupid as to think if Hazzard was in our team he to wouldn’t be played in some strange position , where he would do a job for the team,

    in the first half, Chelsea had 65% possession, how any times did hazard get hit by one of our players, who let him know he was in a game ?

    pardew payed way to much respect to his hero and IMO gave him 3 points on a plate

    this is a guy that want a trophy before 200 games, I will put a bet on with anyone, if pardspew is still here next season, we are out of all the cups by mid jan

  • 77 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Stuart no9

    Wey I fella
    Get Wor Cheryl to get will I am to buy us he’s got the hots for her.

    Brian Johnstone. He’d throw money in no doubt.
    Sting, not so sure.

    Could we not get Ant n Dec to do TOON fans in need with all Geordie artists on the line up. All fans pay and even other fans will feel sorry for we can buy the club back and wipe out 3rd world debt at same time ;)

  • 78 martoon // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    stuart no9 @70 – The trouble is there are levels of richness. Although celebrities such as Cheryl Cole, Ant & Dec etc. are millionaires You really need to be a billionaire to buy a football club. Unfortunately they are few and far between.

  • 79 croftus5678 // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    @9 catchy

    i completely agree buddy but most things did go through cabaye (when playing) and not many of our players have a pass that can break a defence line atm which is why we will miss cabaye

    personaly dont think its the players we have atm just they lack the vision and passing skills needed when it comes to the final 3rd.

    ofc you take goofy/remy/luuk and place them into the team and things could and should improve greatly.

  • 80 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    Rebbeca from 7 miles away

    I saw you complain when players aren’t getting playing time and there are people complaining that we don’t have strength in depth. The only way we could have both is if we rotated a lot. Then we’d have people complaining that we don’t have a settled side, that certain players don’t deserve to be dropped or that Pardew obviously doesn’t know his best side!

    Don’t you see that those arguments are all ridiculous? I was fine seeing the likes of HBA, Cisse and MYM on the bench because it means that the players on the pitch are currently better than them and it means that if we get injuries/suspensions/loss of form, then we have good players to come in.

    As for Armstrong, I hope he does go out on loan once Remy and Goofy are back, but that depends on a team wanting him and willing to pay him. Some fans on here are slating our club for developing loan players, yet we expect other clubs to do it?? More ridiculousness. Other clubs would rather develop their own youth if they can but if they have a gap and Armstrong is definitely better than what they have, they will want him.

  • 81 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    If Pardews still here I bet we have another season closer to lasts than this one!

  • 82 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Norway – £7 for a 500ml (less than a pint) beer

    No wonder you’re miserable…

  • 83 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:37 AM


    look at sunderland,

    you don’t need a play maker ,you just need players to start passing and moving,

    he was a very good player, that pardew played too deep to really get the best out of him,

  • 84 70TWO // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    becs @63

    I only want Ashley to get it right, kind of a better the devil you know, he can have all his free advertising if it was in the CL. The question is has he got the determination, or will he keep flip-flopping around selling? I also accept that success will take time and that our best players at times need to be sold for the greater good. There is no crisis at the moment AP just needs to pull his trousers up and do his job, which if he was any good at would not involve scrabbling around trying to piece together a team.

  • 85 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    Rebbeca from 7 miles away

    you nailed it,

    and what will be said is we have lost a lot of our players , the new ones need time to bed in,,

    its a script

  • 86 70TWO // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    Transfer Sage

    Re: American Football Coach

    1) Sounds a lot like Sam Allardyce.

    2) Is that what Mbiwa was doing?

  • 87 wolfshead@toon // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:41 AM


    wow you never typed the words alan pardew in that post well done ;-)

  • 88 croftus5678 // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    @48 ts

    again we see agreement with everything you’ve said.

  • 89 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:42 AM


    It doesn’t help chopping and changing but i’ll stand by my point on hba, never settled in any team and always fails compared to what he could be going of his abilities….that ones not pardews problem in my view…why is the lad so fat? does he train?…same as saylor.

    marv might be better elsewhere, could be a coutinho type at liverpool but still not convinced, he doesn’t work hard, he should be busting a gut to show he is the man to replace cabaye and we don’t need to buy.

    hazard wouldn’t be as good in our team i agree, but he has a much better work ethic than most in our team.

  • 90 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    I think Ashleys 2 biggest crimes where JFK the first time, and pardew,,

    the rest im not so worried about

    if he gets the right thinking manager, his life would be so eaasy

  • 91 expatmag // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM


    Yeah, I saw Sunderland against Hull.

    We already have a thin squad which cannot sustain the absence of players such as Colo, Gouffran, Remy, Tiote, Cabaye, Cisse etc and a manager who has to put up with an owner who wont buy him players.

    I would like to see Jose operate our squad under those circumstances

  • 92 wolfshead@toon // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    hazard wouldn’t be as good in our team i agree, but he has a much better work ethic than most in our team. :-0 ok time to get back to reality lol

  • 93 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:46 AM


    it’s just an idea, i think worth asking as they might offer some good ideas, our corners can’t get anyway worse….but then again he will be used to a player throwing a ball through the eye of a needle from 70 yards where ours can’t even cross it a yard off the floor.

    and maybe mbiwa was reliving his favourite superbowl memory, just chose a bad time.

  • 94 croftus5678 // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    @68 jayphoto

    i agree i saw mbiwa play for montpelier a few times and looked top class but the prem has a lot more classier attacking players so maybe he’s struggling to adapt and is panic prone !

    even colo took time to adapt though so i’m placing bets that the lad will come good in time.

  • 95 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    Transfer Sage

    work ethic is instilled by the manager,

    jose has done that, but he lets his players play,

    I bet he never ever said once to Ronaldo who is as lazy as anyone defending, hey you ,,you need to track back,

    and if your talking about lazy players, look no further than shola ,taylor, call themselves Geordies, 2 lazy and stupid players,
    id expect lots of effort from them 2

    the whole club lacks respect

  • 96 stuart no9 // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    EXPAT haha yeah probably right with keegan but I bet hes got plenty mates though who could lend him a few bob- Wonga for instance??????

    Rebbeca — yeah you got it – will I am , that’s a gooding I,ll just write that one down in me book

    Martoon— yeah your right , but the idea is to build up a consortium of millionaires . how many would you need ?? not sure there but i’m sure there would be plenty

  • 97 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:50 AM


    totally agree on saylor and shola….but working hard isn’t always tracking back, can be closing down…occasionally players track back, see sturridge, negredo, aguero, rooney all getting back when they are needed, i’ve seen it myself.

    I don’t think the manager helps but these players don’t do themselves justice and work hard enough.

  • 98 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM


    take ability away from the squads, 11 v 11, who has shown the most fight in the derby games
    bare in mind sunderland have beat us 4 times under pardew, who is showing the hunger to win games,

    pardew is more about impressing v the so called big teams than the little ones,
    and also, sunderland had brown sent off in the 4th minute
    us v stoke, they where battering us until they had 2 sent off,
    im betting that if they did not get them sent off, that would have been another home game lost

  • 99 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    I see what your saying about a settled side. But surely it makes sense to give a fringe player a go in the team against weaker opposition whilst there are 10 first team players along side him.
    Not only would this benefit the young lad it would also freshen up and let the senior player know his place wasn’t guaranteed,
    I don’t mean every game but they should be getting way more than they get.

    What about sub appearances? How often does Sammy Cisse Bigi or anyone get half an hour or longer?

    Did Alex Ferguson always play the same side? And don’t say Man U players are better as over the years I’ve seen some garbage carried in that team.

    Pardew can’t utilise his squad, he’d rather play a player out of position than trust a fringe player.

    Football is about balance not just in your team set up but in how and when you rotate your squad. Something Pardew can’t or won’t do, it takes a injury or suspension for our fringe players to get a look in. His usually subs to change a game are Haidra and Shola as he never gives the others a chance. Why?

    Sammy has done reasonably well in last few games why hasn’t he had a sniff before now why is that?

    Yes I agree we should be developing our players but we aren’t, yes I’m unhappy at having loan players I personally don’t think loan players should be allowed in same league as their parent club.
    But kids like Cambell Armstrong Sammy should go out to Div 1 or Championships for at least half as season around 17 to 18 year old, how olds Sammy? Couple years older than Zaha who’s probably played 100 competitive games more than him!

    Why give Pardew a squad of 24 good players if he’s only prepared to use around 17 ?

  • 100 beefman13 // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    Pardew yea i know we have had injuries, thats your fav excuse, but again if we had of strengthened with quality we could have still been moving forward, we stalled because we did not, every bugger knows that, why the hell didnt we strengthen, its bloody mad.

  • 101 expatmag // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    If anyone watched the Liverpool Arsenal game at the weekend, the pressure Liverpool put on Arsenal was phemonal and the pace and movement on the counter attack was lethal.

    This is what we should be doing, if Ashley would fork out for the players

  • 102 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    I disagree but don’t you think some things in life are bad they can really make you mad?
    other things just make you swear and curse
    when you’re chewing on life’s gristle
    don’t grumble, give a whistle
    and this’ll help things turn out for the best

  • 103 croftus5678 // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    @96 ts

    is it time for my dialy praise of luuk :-)

    for a striker the lad never stops working for our team tracking back/closing down/making space for others/holding up play till support comes and even looking for a better placed team mate for the shot on goal.

    i admit his shots are powder puff lol but like goofy who i believe busts a gut for us and has talent aswell he’s fastly becoming one of my fave players.

  • 104 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Transfer Sage

    iv seen it too, and there is no rreason not to,

    it does not matter how much these guys get paid, its more how they feel they are being treated,

    players would run trough brick walls for SBR, I get the feeling they don’t even want to run for pardew

  • 105 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Rotated a lot?
    Sammy’s had 3 starts in nearly 30 games only cos needed.
    How many starts has Mbiwa had unless necessary.
    And all the others too Marv, Obertan, Bigi, I’m not saying these are all world beaters but they’d perform a lot better with a bit match fitness and form!

  • 106 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Did you see my post the other day in answer to you on the advertising. Mikey’s team gave sir John some bullshit about wanting to take their business into far east markets. That’s not what you were saying was what he’d told him. And the club has made no serious attempt to forge links with the far east for the mutual benefit of NUFC and SD.

    Nothing explains why, if SD wanted advertising at sjp for the massive benefits you think they’re getting, they wouldn’t have simply paid a fee, which would be far less than the £6m a year shirt sponsorship deal, and without any of the risk of club ownership. We’re talking peanuts, relatively speaking.

    Nobody has yet explained why mikey, the 100% owner of NUFC, wants to give SD, of which he owns only 63%, free advertising. Why would he want to benefit minority SD shareholders, who are otherwise completely unconnected to him. To me, the only logical reason is that it’s not worth the candle to look at seriously, although they hope by showcasing it, it might generate a modest deal with someone rather than lots of little individual deals. In the meantime mikey doesn’t mind that completely unconnected shareholders are getting some minor benefit as a result of his association with nufc.

  • 107 beefman13 // Feb 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    expat, its the bargain basement with MA, yes we have got some decent players in the past but you have to keep moving forward like he said he would, we all know he is happy around were we are now, whatever he says, keeping us in the prem is the important thing, we cant compete money wise with the top six, granted, but we are getting very little excitment out of our team, MA has made profits with us but the brand NUFC looks cheep like his other businesses,, no class, simple as.

  • 108 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:00 PM


    matching up player for player

    mignolet – krul
    enrique – santon
    toure- colo
    skrtel – willo
    johnson – debuchy
    gerrard – anita
    lucas- tiote
    henderson – sissoko
    coutinho – hba
    sturridge – de jong
    suarez – remy

    for me we match them fairly well until it comes to the forward 3, there’s are all more creative, clinical, decisive, just all round better players….that’s a huge difference.

    Ultimately though, they play as similar syle to sunderland did against us….not we are somewhere in between those two sides for qaulity, so in theory we under proper guidance we should be able to play a high tempo, pressing game….but for whatever reason we don’t.

  • 109 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    Expat @100
    Ye it was horrible, I hate pool :(

  • 110 mag // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    It’s a good job Coloccini is out or results would have been worse with him playing. Sack Pardew!

  • 111 Novocastrian66 // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Catchy; Brown was sent off against Hull after 4 mins and the fact is Stoke got two sent off against us and deservedly so. They were playing on the boundaries for the first 20 mins against us and crossed it too often.
    You cannot blame Newcastle for that.
    Brown was sent off against Stoke in November in the 36th minute.

  • 112 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    What about teaming up with ciaran in a ruddy marvellous production of the magnificent seven starring ruddy, jimmy nail, ant and dec, sting, and robson green with Cheryl as the love interest?

  • 113 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:03 PM


    She said, “There is no reason
    And the truth is plain to see.”
    But I wandered through my playing cards
    And they would not let her be
    One of sixteen vestal virgins
    Who were leaving for the coast
    And although my eyes were open wide
    They might have just as well been closed

  • 114 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:04 PM


    So to play Bigi, you’re suggesting we should have dropped Cabaye, Tiote or Anita? You’d rather play Marv or Obertan than Goofy, Remy or HBA?

    You’re mad. It’s up to the fringe players to stake their claim in training and to take advantage when the chance is offered.

    We should always play the best team to win the game! Look what happened when we rotated players in cup games…we lost to lower league opposition!

  • 115 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:05 PM


    surely we could sell the advertising though, all other clubs manage to do it, why can’t we….it’s not about how much it costs us, why aren’t we making money from it…even if just a few thousand.

    If you look on sites for other clubs who list how much they charge your talking 10′s of thousands a game, its enough to pay the wage of a few more talented kids at last.

  • 116 croftus5678 // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    @103 catchy

    sbr was one in a billion m8 i dont think we will ever see another manager like him in our lifetime <3'd the bloke and yep your right if sbr had these players i'm sure we'd be pushing for top 4 but it'll never happen nor do i think any other manager can do any better imo with the way things are run :-( as the better managers would not even think about coming to us.

    kk imo just timed it right in his first time at the club with the way he played and would not be anywhere near as succesfull if in charge again.

  • 117 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:06 PM


    I think there have been plenty of times when our main players have under performed and it would have done no harm to bring one of these fringe lads on, even if just 30 mins as a sub.

  • 118 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Life’s a piece of shit, when you look at it
    Life’s a laugh and death’s a joke, it’s true
    You’ll see its all a show, keep ‘em laughin as you go
    Just remember that the last laugh is on you

  • 119 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:08 PM


    I also think bigi took advantage of his game time last year, did very little wrong when he played and should be involved more this year, certainly more than gosling should.

  • 120 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM


    Black and white tinged glasses there I think. I’d say Liverpool are better than us in several areas there. Not to mention, they have a stronger squad beneath .

  • 121 mag // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM

    Keegan makes the Pardew impostor look like the useless division one clown that he really is.

  • 122 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:10 PM

    What about
    And the other 10 or so companies he advertises there which he opens out right!
    The level of PUBLICITY his companies are getting is way more than a 6million investment for advertising would get him.

    So by losing say 10 to 20 million a year from revenue going into the club he’s getting ten fold going into his other business. He hasn’t entered the Far East as that’s were most his tat is made.

    Chech the ads pal most say his company is in them markets through internet he doesn’t need to open shops there.

  • 123 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:12 PM


    not really, don’t rate there CB’s at all, skrtel wrestles more tham mbiwa just gets away with it, toure is past it, sakho hasn’t settled and agger is out injured a lot

    they have slightly better fullbacks, but not loads better.

    midfield is better now we’ve lost cabaye, but until then i was happier with ours

    just the front three for them is amazing….also i agree they have a lot more depth.

  • 124 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:12 PM


    I think we do that. But they’ve often not performed to the standard expected. Maybe they will given time. But we don’t know what is happening on the training ground. I can only assume that Bigi hasn’t really impressed. Attitudes of young players can really make a difference and maybe he isn’t training hard. I’d have thought he’d be ahead of Gosling in the pecking order but then Gosling did well for Blackpool.

  • 125 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM


    My god…don’t you get bored of posting the same thing post after post? Don’t you have anything better to do with your life?

  • 126 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM


    No what we should do is not play them in a competitive match for 6months then throw them all on a pitch for a cup game then stand there looking like a plum wondering what’s gone wrong.

    Oh hang on that’s what Pardew does!

  • 127 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    we were linked to will hughes today…he’s a good player, watched the lad for the first full game last night against QPR and he plays at a different level, takes a great corner too

  • 128 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:15 PM


    Gerrard is still excellent and I’d take him over any of our current lot. They are a very decent team. But yes, they are not spectacular. If we had Coutinho, Sturridge and Suarez then I would expect us to be challenging for the top 4 even without the strength in depth.

  • 129 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Blab key @111

    That sounds like a strange sorta adult movie to me….

  • 130 croftus5678 // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    @123 tds

    agree also bigi imo should be ahead of gos…maybe he’s been stuck for goals and with gos being a goal scoring midfielder maybe thats why he’s chosen ahead of him !

    imo vukic should also be the replacement for cabaye in these times but not sure how well he’s progressed tbh.

  • 131 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM


    i just find it odd that he hasn’t impressed when he seemed so hard working last year, same as sammy, came into the team early on and did well, then fell behind obertan for some reason.

    I just don’t understand some of the decisions, i know pardew sees more of them but whenever i have seen bigi he looks more than able to hold his own in the middle with our side.

  • 132 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM


    You mean like many other managers do in the PL? Including the absolute top ones?

    Rather than saying what he shouldn’t do, what do you think he should do? Drop Tiote or Anita for Bigi? Drop Goofy, Remy or HBA for Obertan or Marv?

  • 133 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    Auto correct sucks balls

  • 134 mag // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    @124 not until it penatrates your cranium.

  • 135 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM


    I think Gosling jumped ahead due to decent performances for Blackpool in the Championship. In the summer Bigi said that he didn’t want to go on loan, which was perhaps a mistake.

  • 136 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:21 PM


    But it’s ridiculous that fans blame the manager for this. May as well blame SBR for Chopra or Shola not becoming world class! Some players just stagnate…

  • 137 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    Been watching that Hughes lad since someone mentioned him on here, really good player has a bright future. I’d give it another year and he’ll be in prem one way or another, surprised a couple clubs haven’t been in for him. A Liverpool fan I know reckons they have first option but I couldn’t say they have.

  • 138 croftus5678 // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    @134 tds

    makes sense bud.

  • 139 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    Hughes has been impressing for Derby in the same way that Bigi was impressing for Coventry. Ok, it’s a slightly higher standard now as I think they’re pushing the play offs? But still no guarantee. Looks good when I’ve seen him, but I’m no scout…

  • 140 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:25 PM


    Not really though, SBR gave both of those players chances, they just never cut it (yet shola is some how still here)

    These kids aren’t getting a chance, that’s fine as they might not be ready or good enough but for the likes of bigi he showed he was good enough to be a valuable squad member, why has he gone totally. He’d be better on the bench than some and also better than when we have 2 left backs on the bench.

    I’m not blaming pardew for them all not developing but he needs to give some of them more of a chance….how do you think man utd blooded youngsters? they don’t jsut suddenly go from academy to world class…it takes time and you need to get them into the first team somehow. He is the manager, he is paid to figure this problem out…his remit is not win every game no matter what, he also is there to develop players.

  • 141 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:27 PM

    Ok then in last match we played I with what we had I would have played.
    Debs willo Mbiwa Dummet/Haidra
    Sissokho tiote
    Benny Anita Sammy
    De Jong

    With everyone fit I’d play like that except swap Benny and Sammy for Remy on our left and Gouffran on our right.

    I’d let tiote and sis sit and cover for full backs and def and have sis breaking from deep and Anita in there to link it all up and keep the ball.

  • 142 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    @ tads

    I know Pardew isn’t to blame for a lot of things that have went wrong at NUFC, but you can’t blindly defend him all the time .

    Its no coincidence all of these awful records he has set as NUFC manager you know . Things like worst home defeat for 80 years & 3 losses to the Mackems which is the worst record for 100 years . And those are only a few abysmal records he has broken .

    Fair enough setting one poor record could be the players fault, but as they keep piling up the only player to look at is the manager. And as for the players, this team (even without Cabaye) is just as good if not better than what SBR had yet Pardew nearly got us relegated with a team full of quality Internationals .

    Now Pardew is blaming injury’s for 6 defeats in 8 (I think) yet in reality we have only had serious injury problems in the last two games . The man is running out of excuses at the end of the day .

  • 143 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    Sorry tiote wasn’t available so I’d have put Anita back there and tried gosling or Marveux

  • 144 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    only person rather ;)

  • 145 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:30 PM


    But Man Utd can get away with it because they’re often in cup competitions where they are vastly superior to the opposition or where they have world class players on the bench to change the game or where their young players are already much better than ours.

    We could do what Villa have been doing and focus on the youth players and sacrifice our league position but then how would the fans react?! Cheapskate Ashley playing our youth players again…look what happened last time he tried that!

  • 146 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 PM


    just to further my point….i’d say most clubs have players who play every week if fit…currently for us i’d say that should be krul, debuchy, willo, tiote, remy and gouff (cabaye til he went)

    thats not 6 (7 before) who are the main lads in the team who have done well this year most games.

    You then have a CB spot, left back, centre mid, wide player, CF spot up for grabs. You don’t play all kids at once, but you can put one or two in a game.

  • 147 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    So all players fit

    Debs willo Mbiwa Haidra
    Tiote sis
    Gouffran Anita Remy
    De Jong

    With players we have and playing a variation of that should be able to allow for suspensions and injuries our fringe players could do something in a set up like that.

  • 148 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:35 PM


    Well villa only did it as their owner got sick of spending after martin oneil.

    But i know what you mean, people would be more forgiving of the club focusing on youth it they did it properly, got top academy status, got some good coaching staff and actually communitcated with fans and not just ignore us, treating us like pesky flies to swat away.

  • 149 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:36 PM


    So you’d drop Santon and you’d play MYM over Colo? I totally disagree. But still, you have no place for Bigi, Sammy, Armstrong, Marv, Vuckic, Obertan, Streete and the rest. So when would you suggest we drop players to play them? That was my question.

  • 150 John Tudor // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    all turgid pish

  • 151 mag // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:37 PM

    Pardew is a spineless jobsworth who would have been sacked ages ago at any other club for his sheer incompetence four seasons of mediocrity and humiliating defeats against lower league teams and still clowns defend him.

  • 152 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    Ts and TDS
    That’s my point rotation doesn’t have to be 11 for 11 it can be 1 or 2 not even every game.
    Surely against hull or palace etc our fringe players should be getting a sniff.

    People say they aren’t good enough, Mbiwa helped keep 3 clean sheets against spuds chellski and manure and played really well and then was just dropped. Then Taylor brought in. Why?

  • 153 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:39 PM


    But it would take years to develop that system! And the Toon fans are hardly patient these days! No way would most fans accept that approach. Mike Ashley has been taking the **** out of us for years and now he expects us to just accept this penny pinching attitude while he takes all the money out of the club…blah blah. Not going to happen.

    You are seriously suggesting that we play a weakened side in order to blood youngsters. Not going to fly. The only clubs that can do that are those that think they already have such a huge advantage over the opposition that it’s better to rotate and save their key players for more crucial games. For us, every game is as important the next.

  • 154 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:39 PM


    I’d agree with that team, dummet over haidara for me though.

    then bring in bigi for anita/sissoko every few games, bring in vukic for anita of the bench, see how he does, give sammy a run and rest either goof/de jong for him.

  • 155 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM


    how have southampton managed then? how do villa manage? how to spurs do it when playing bigger sides? how to swansea do it last year with that young left back….it can be done.

    it’s swapping one player, obviously don’t just chuck somebody in for the sake of it but players like bigi, sammy, vukic have shown they can at least compete when given the chance.

  • 156 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    Yeah, because we can afford to play a weakened team against the likes of Hull and Palace. And I’m sure the fans wouldn’t be up in arms if we lost or drew to one of those teams after playing a couple of youth players instead of our first team even though they were fully fit…

  • 157 Yohan Kebab // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    I think we should chuck arma in, see if he swims

    he can play the number 10 role, and lets be honest, apart from an out of form ben arfa ,nobody else in our squad can

    debuchy willo mbiwa haidara
    anita sissoko
    ben arfa arma sammy

    might aswell give it a go

  • 158 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    My team all players fit would be :





    —————————De Jong—————————-

    Subs: Elliot,Collo,Santon,Sammy,Marv,Gouff,Cisse

    Best 11 and bench IMO .

    Imagine us playing counter attacking football with Sissoko, HBA & Remy’s pace . Could be brilliant .

  • 159 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    It’s called rotating your squad.

    Decent coaches and managers do it for many different reasons including but not exclusively to prevent injury through burning a player out, to try a different tactic, to freshen up the team, to motivate the younger players, to keep a first teaser on his toes etc etc,

    Colo wouldn’t get in my team, I don’t wear black and white glasses and he isn’t the player some fans make out, as for Santon he isn’t a left back no matter what Jose said I also don’t like the way he ambles around he never seems to bust a gut to get back after he’s gave the ball away and that’s unacceptable. I believe we look more balanced and fluid when we have a left footer at left back!

  • 160 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:46 PM


    You’re not grasping the difference between Southampton, Swansea and Villa at the moment. NUFC fans are bitching because we’re ONLY targeting the top 10! With that amount of rotation, we’d be several points lighter even if it might be a good long-term solution.

    Southampton have been playing youth players in the lower leagues for years and they are now breaking through. They also have a fantastic youth system and do not have fans that seem to think they deserve to be in the top 6.

    Villa fans seem to accept the rebuilding process.

    It seems that’s what’s good enough for Villa would not be seen as good enough for us. Just like Kenwright gets lauded for what he’s doing at Everton but Ashley gets slated for doing a similar thing with us.

  • 161 dantoon85 // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    ——————–de Jong

    That’s how I think we should play from now on

  • 162 TurkishFan101 // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    Good afternoon lads!

    Anyone in for losing the last 13 games so Pardew gets sacked and at the same time fans that protest and unite to get the cockney d!cks out of the club?

    I am in for this, but I just the fans that even go to games to join the protest and show them we are united. The Aston Villa game will be televised so if fans unite and protest as a whole big bunch, it will go global on media and Mike Ashley hates global coverage more than anything else in his life, and yes even salad.

    Come on lads, I feel like the cockney turds are coming to an end, just we need to squeeze out the last move to get them out instantly.

    HWTL :D

  • 163 mag // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    Try rotating fat mike over some hot coals.

  • 164 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM


    Fan opinion shouldn’t come in to it, the manager should realise it’s better for the long term results if he has more than 11 regulars.

    It’s gets to this situation we have no where if you don’t rotate and you get injuries and suspensions (which all teams do) you then start asking lads to play 4/5 90minute games when they’ve barely kicked a ball for 3 months.

  • 165 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    Now we get down to it…

    We can’t play a weakened team as you’ve said because Pardew has us skating on such thin ice with his preferred 11 it’s too much of a risk to take.

    Look at the stoke game pal, there down to 9men and we bring Shola on…. Stevie wonder coulda pointed to the bench and picked a better option.

  • 166 Yohan Kebab // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM


    i have often said our team is far more suited to 5 at the back, but it simply isnt going to happen with our manager

    colo willo mbiwa
    debuchy tiote sissoko haidara
    ben arfa
    remy de jong

    if we were too line up like that though

  • 167 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    @ Rebecca

    I agree m8 . M’biwa is a title winning CB and he & Willo kept clean sheets against Spurs, Chelsea & Man U but was then dropped for Collo . Only for Collocini to be at fault for the next two goals conceded, total joke and it is clear M’biwa is another player not on Pardews Christmas card list for whatever reason .

  • 168 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM


    Actually Everton do it a lot differently. They might not spend big but always look to improve. We look to stagnate, hit a certain level then either sell or dot buy to push on. Did it when 5th and just don’t it again this January.

  • 169 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:50 PM


    So you’re disagreeing with world class coaches all over the place (including SBR who often played ‘wrong-footed’ wingers). Well, that’s your prerogative but I think you’re wrong.

    I know what rotation is about but we’d be stupid to drop our best players for unproven players unless they are excelling in training!

    Why should Obertan or Marv get a look in when they have frequently let the side down when they have played? Why should Campbell have played when he couldn’t even play ahead of League One strikers? How’s he doing at St Mirren by the way? Should be scoring at least 1 a game to deserve to start for us!

    Dummett has made several mistakes and it seems he and Pardew see his final position as a centre back, not left back. MYM has never impressed me, although he has time to improve.

  • 170 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    10 to 20 million a year lost in revenue. I cant conceive of where you get that from. Transfer Sage has to be nearer the mark with tens of thousands a game.

    As for all the brands you name, I don’t see them advertised. If it was really worth it, he’d be advertising those brands and not simply SD but he isn’t.

    It has become a broom to beat mikey with. But even if nufc charged SD, mikeys detractors would argue he’s not charging the going rate. It is the same with the shirt sponsorship. You referred me to the tables to show that but they show we are currently earning more than Sunderland.

    I can see Transfer Sages point because he’s using realistic figures. However, given mikey is giving the club 7 to 10 million a year by way of interest free loan and taking no salary or dividends, it seems like carping criticism. At the end of the day, he could charge SD the going rate, but take himself the sort of salary the previous regime were fond of to compensate. He could also charge a little interest.

  • 171 martoon // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    Rebecca, TDS – Is that not what Pardew tried to do in the FA cup against a second string Cardiff team. In my opinion that team was easily strong enough to beat them but we didn’t and people are still moaning about it now – god knows what they would say if he did it in the premiership!

  • 172 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:51 PM


    With the pressure on managers these days, why would they rotate to benefit the next manager? Sure, the 8 year contract could be seen to create that stability but then Pardew nearly lost his job and was told top 10 or you’re out.

    Maybe we can afford to rotate when we’re safely in that zone, but if we can end up pushing for Europe or we’re in danger of dropping down the league, then no chance.

  • 173 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    People don’t trust Ashley for a reason, he lies as doesn’t have the best interest of nuf at heart…kenwright is the opposite.

    There is no harm rotating players if they are tired or you want to give somebody else game time to be match ready in case of injuries and suspensions. A good manager should see this and not just expect lads to perform when they haven’t played first team football for months.

  • 174 Jeff from Benwell // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM


  • 175 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:53 PM


    Totally disagree, it benefits the current manger as he has competition, nobody is complacent (as a lot of our lads are) and everyone is on their toes.

  • 176 dantoon85 // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Yohan kebab

    I was thinkin of that formation aswell also. Gives us a better balance and a more attacking threat without being caught with our pants down at the back.

    Also creates competition for places more playing with wing backs

  • 177 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:53 PM


    Stop blaming things on Pardew, it’s pathetic. He’s the only manager we’ve got, he’s currently got us in 8th place and that’s decent.

    There are areas to criticise the club but it’s pathetic how some people are so desperate to point fingers at certain people.

    8th place would be good this season.

  • 178 70TWO // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    Looking forward to the match tomorrow?

    Everyone can see the problems we have, but will AP be able to find the right solution? Here is what the Guardian are ‘looking’ for:

    8) Who will score for Rémy-less Newcastle?
    If Tim Sherwood is a lucky manager as some have suggested, then he can thank his good fortune again for his Spurs team facing Newcastle when Loïc Rémy is serving the final game of a three-match ban for a red card he received against Norwich. Without Rémy, Alan Pardew’s side have looked toothless. Injuries haven’t helped, nor has the departure of Yohan Cabaye to PSG, without a replacement being brought in. Luke de Jong, signed on loan from Borussia Mönchengladbach, has scored precisely no goals in the league this season. After three goalless performances, Pardew needs his midfielders to step up. Otherwise, Sherwood may enjoy an evening so comfortable that even the Lucozade bottles will be spared a kicking.

    And here is what we are missing:

  • 179 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:55 PM


    he did it in the FA cup but too many changes (some injury, some choice) but he should be looking to just rotate 1 or 2 a game, keep people on their toes and make sure everyone is ready to step in if needed.

  • 180 Ciaran // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:55 PM

    Shouldn’t be lost on some people that a number of posters crawling out of the woodwork after the dust has settled.

    Lacking the courage of their convictions it would appear.

  • 181 mag // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    Santon playing centre mid tells you how tactically brilliant Pardew isn’t. Fat mike sack Pardew!

  • 182 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 12:56 PM


    When we finished 5th we massively overachieved. Sure, we should have strengthened, but we did not have a squad realistically capable of challenging for a CL spot year after year.

    I don’t understand what you don’t grasp though…if we had rotated earlier in the season then we would have less points that we do now. It’s down to players to grab their chance and stay in the team. HBA and Cisse did not do well when they played, Dummett and MYM started looking ropey and were dropped, Marv and Obertan have never impressed. Sammy looked decent against City and I hope he gets a few more chances.

    After we finished 5th, we tried to do exactly what you are saying, by playing more youth players and look what happened!

  • 183 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM


    why do you presume we’d have less points, that’s just an assumption, we might have had more as more players would be fresh, more chance of form and more chance that subs would be match ready to change the game?

    As i say, some don’t rotate, you have your core of 6/7 key players who are too important…but can easily change some others around…would anita for bigi really make a huge difference in some games? i doubt it.

    actually mbiwa was dropped when he was playing well and dummet has looked much less ropey than santon this season.

    We only played youth after we finsihed 5th becuase we had to, that’s not ideal, you want to play them to rotate, not just due to injuries as our horrendous owner signed just 1 first team player.

  • 184 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM

    That Toure decision is disgraceful by the way and shows that Man City clearly have officials on the Payroll .

    Remy goes face to face with someone and gets a red, yet Toure blatantly kicks a player in the back and gets away with it FFS .

  • 185 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM

    Pardew can’t win…rotate and he’s accused of not knowing his best team, don’t rotate and he’s accused of favouritism…play youth players and he’s accused of weakening our team, don’t play youth players and he’s accused of not giving them a chance…play players in other positions and he’s accused of not knowing what he’s doing, don’t play players in other positions and he’s accused of tactical inflexibility.

    Some of you people should really look at yourselves and consider what you’re saying when you criticise someone else so mercilessly.

  • 186 70TWO // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    AP needs some bite in the midfield and should play two holding midfielders, going back to basics and making sure we have defensive rigidity. This allows the four attackers to play without as much defensive responsibility and keep possession in the oppositions half.

    Whilst Soko has been great in the wide role his power is needed to control the middle of the pitch, I would also perhaps play Mbiwa as a DM in order to break up play in front of our defense. This partnership would be imposing and give us a platform on which to build a performance.

  • 187 mag // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    @184 its not penertrating that cranium yet!

  • 188 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    If Ashley came out and said the advertising for SD is how I’m taking my loan back then fair enough.
    The money through ads has to be a lot more, it’s a while since I bought a programme but usually it tells you who a kit sponsor is for each player each game. I can’t remember how much but it’s about 1000 a game just to have your company name next to a players in the programme.
    So bearing that in mind a bill board or advertisement that most people in ground will see and in turn could be seen on TV makes them more valuable than a programme that maybe less than half ground will see.

    But even if there not more, how many signs are up in total in ground a 1000 2000? And let’s just say it’s a £1000 per sign per game see the maths, by your calculations it’s about £10 a sign if that’s the case I’d buy them instead of cards for the family..

  • 189 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM


    Mbiwa looked ropey ???
    Have a word lad he got dropped after 3clean sheets in a row for co co the clown.. No wonder the lads had enough!

  • 190 daztoon // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM


    Whats the point of having a squad then if we’re not prepared to rotate and if not just proves bar the first eleven the squad lacks quality to compete for a first team shirt.

    You have banged on all season about our squad being better than most teams below us.Yet your not for using the full squad.

    Make yer mind up or just shut up

  • 191 Tsunki // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    We didn’t massively overachieve by coming 5th , the quality of the league had been going down over the last few years, and last year we failed even to keep up with that. Pardew’s remit has been to keep us in the league and use the tools given as there won’t be much spending after last year’s panic buys. Pards is not a great tactician but a decent logistics man. I blame the whole setup under Ashleys steering hand.

  • 192 pawl250 // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:07 PM

    Cannot believe the amount of criticism Mbiwa is receiving on here.

    Its almost as though Anita, Debuchy, Colo, STaylor, Santon do not make mistakes and give away penalties or receive red cards.

    He played brilliantly before Christmas keeping clean sheets against the likes of Chelsea before being DROPPED!

    For no good reason!

    Then he is expected to come on mid way through a game and handle an inform Hazard and Willian after being sidelined for an extended period of time.


    Mbiwa is a great player! Great! He is under used and mis used in our team. He is our best defender and with an extended run in the first team he would prove that statement true.

    He showed his class when him and Williamson player back end of 2013.

    I am disappointed with this blog and some of the posters jumping on the guy for one mistake! 1!!

    The amount of times Debuchy was shown red or gave a penalty in his first months in the PL were ridiculous and yet the argument would be their to say he has been one if not our best player this season!

  • 193 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    I’m going to put something positive out for people to mull over.A team needs a goal at the start of the season right?,whether it is to stay up or win the league.All teams will have their goal and assess it at Christmas where you can adjust the team goal depending on how the team has been playing then act accordingly in the transfer window when it opens.So we get ourselves in a good position in the league,maybe Pardew has been telling the players that we will strengthen and we didn’t,transfer window closes the same day we play the Scum.As a manager how do you motivate your team after that?,how do you get the lads up after what has happened?.I have a theory,long story short,Pardew finishes 5th get an 8 yr contract,something happens to the the Pards/Jabba relationship imo there is a power struggle going on which results in Jabba appointing JFK as Director Of Football,imo Pards was becoming too ambitious,pestering Jabba for transfers so he appoints JFK as a buffer he can control.So the only way Pardew can keep Jabba off his back in this struggle is if he gets the team to do well,if the team is doing well the fans are happy and Jabba can’t do nothing,has anybody ever thought the reason why Pardew has to say strange things in press conferences is because he doesn’t want to give him a reason to sack him?.Right back to how to motivate your team after that,like i said the only thing Pardew has as protection is if the team is doing well and you need all the players behind you with a us v them attitude,the Manager and the players v the board.How better way for Pards and the players to put pressure back on Jabba after he has tried to wreck his season than to still finish as high as possible in the league,if we qualify for Europe Pardew knows Jabba will be under tremendous pressure to spend and back him fully because of what happened in the transfer market last time we were in Europe,and especially after what happened this window.That’s how i would motivate my team from now til the end of the season in that situation,take an us v them attitude and try and get in Europe to stick a big 2 fingers up to Jabba.This is just a theory,it’s entirely plausible,just a different point of view.

  • 194 Mister Tuff // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

    Ashley haters – please stop this drivel about Sports Direct getting free advertising with the purpose of expanding their empire in the far east. What tosh, what utter drivel, no evidence at all to back this up -pure invention by the Ashley and Percy haters.
    (Ashley haters – you are not allowed to use as an example the giant SD superstore in Malaysia – Full details:-
    Jalan SS 13/5, Subang Jaya Industrial Estate, 47500 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia
    Phone:+60 3-5566 8700 )

  • 195 martoon // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:14 PM

    Big Pappa Cissé @183 – Yeah I thought the same – what with the favourable refereeing decisions like the one against us it makes you wonder …………..

  • 196 pawl250 // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:19 PM

    My team for Spurs tomorrow….

    ———————– Krul
    Debuchy – Williamson – Mbiwa – Santon
    —– Sissoko —— Tiote —— Anita
    Ben Arfa ———- De Jong ——– Sammy

    If we assume Debuchy and Tiote are injured

    ———————– Krul
    Santon – Williamson – Mbiwa – Haidara
    —– Sissoko — Marveaux – Anita
    Ben Arfa ——– De Jong ——– Sammy

  • 197 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    Mr mojo
    I thought you said positive

    Mr tuff
    Sorry, it’s only my opinion not fact ;)

    On a brighter note no ones been sacked today.

  • 198 pawl250 // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    All players fit

    ———————- Krul
    Debuchy – Mbiwa – Coloccini – Santon
    —— Sissoko — Tiote — Anita
    —– Gouffran – De Jong – Remy

  • 199 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    Big pappa

    I honestly though after Thierry Henry scored with his hand that things would start to change via TV replays or whatever but when the powers that be blatantly show favouritism it’s shocking.

    I always say the same thing, if refs aren’t cheating their the only people in football who don’t! Then there covered by their pals at fa.

  • 200 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:27 PM


    yes he is a one off, but I also think your wrong, players seem to be running through brick walls for poyet, they did it at brighton, there doing it now for him at sunderland

    he took over a team bottom, with 1 point, there best goal scorer injured,

    and not just him, there are managers all over the world getting the same from there players,,

    you never see that from this team,

    like I have said once before, when tiote scored that goal not long ago, he ran towards the bench, pardew thought he was running to him, but tiote ran straight past him, funny as fook,

  • 201 BandB // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:29 PM

    I’d be hard pressed to recall the name of a single shirt sponsor, including Barca, Real Madrid or Chelsea.
    Or whether I’ve ever registered the name of anything on any pitch-side advertising hoarding, let alone been spurred to make impulse online purchase resulting from it.
    I love all the very clever adverts on the telly, but usually can’t remember which product goes with which advert.
    The blimp on Barrack Road is, in my view, a fairly marginal advertising tool. Sponsorship is about getting your company’s name associated with a successful product. Which is perhaps why ours are a string of Ashley ventures, Wonga, and that little pizza company.

  • 202 70TWO // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM


    Is another ‘mountain out of a mole hill’ moment, yes NUFC is a marketing tool of Sports Direct and the more times Sports Direct get mentioned, good or bad, the higher up Google listings Sports Direct rise. No NUFC do not get paid by Sports Direct for advertising, which looks bad financially as low income generation and would potentially be questioned by prospective buyer. An improvement in marketing for Sports Direct would be for the stadium to feature in midweek TV games and associated press coverage, so might this also be the longer term plan?

  • 203 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM


    your a strange one

    read what the fans say about pardew at his other clubs,,

    they said he says the strangest things in interviews,, was mike Ashley there too

    you toooool

  • 204 pawl250 // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM


    I cannot understand how Remy got banned and Johnson didn’t.

    Or another example how Carroll got banned after Chico incident against Swansea and Toure doesn’t.

    They say 3 referees who have no contact with each other to make an opinion are told to access a website and be asked if they would give a red card.

    Too me that is 3 peoples opinions opposed to a more general vote of say 10.

    I mean had it been me….

    Remy YES
    Johnson YES
    Toure YES
    Carroll NO

    That is my opinion, I do not think Remy could be a no simply because he got himself involved, yet how Johnson got away with his blatant theatrical play act I do no know!

    My honest opinion would be had he not done that act both would have got a yellow and that would be all.

  • 205 jayphoto // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:32 PM

    @pawl – when everyones fit I think you’ve still got to have willo in there! Along with debuchy and gouffran he’s been our most consistent player, arguably first choice centre half! Would definately play MYM alongside him though!
    Not really a fan of Santon… my head tells me Haidara is the best option at left back, my heart says play the geordie lad Dummet.
    Think Dejong is going to be a good player for us though, seen enough in the first 2 games to suggest he offers more than Shola at least! Would love to see him get a game in a 4-4-2 with Cisse though.
    My line up would be 4-4-2 – Krul, debuchy, willo, MYM, Haidara, Gouff (rm) anita/sissoko, tiote, Remy, Dejong, Cisse

  • 206 jayphoto // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    personally think Carroll knew what he was doing swinging his arm around! The way he span round was such an unnatural movement! Remy deserved his red for the stupidity of getting involved! Should never a give a ref anything that might make him get that red out! Johnson didn’t deserve a red for the clash but would have liked to see a ban for the theatrics, same as chico florres as its something that needs stamping out

  • 207 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    like i said it’s just another point of view,just because you have your opinion it doesn’t mean your right,and just because i have my opinion it doen’t mean i’m right.Unfortunately majority rules on this blog,there are a lot of people who back Pardew but don’t post on the blog because of the sh1t storm people tend to get when they say that.

  • 208 Mister Tuff // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    Rebecca – yes please stop this nonsense about Mr Tubbs using his free advertising at SJP to aid expansion in the far east.
    As I have just pointed out you are not allowed to use his new giant superstore in Malaysia to further your argument.

    Equally please do not use Mr Tubbs new superstore in Hong Kong to further this ridiculous argument. Details of the HK superstore:-
    12C, Kim Tak Building, 328-342 Nathan Road,
    Jordan, Kowloon, Hong Kong.

  • 209 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    I’d agree on that
    I think the problem lis similar to the pundits one.
    You only here one side of the story as if someone else thinks something different they don’t say it the just go along with the common view.

  • 210 pawl250 // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

    Jay I would agree he has been consistent but for me his general play is simply not good enough.

    He has a touch of an elephant and cannot pass the ball to save his life, he prefer to hoof it.

    If you want to see a football side, then Mbiwa and Colo are perfect candidates to start the play from the back and move forward.

    In the middle, Sissoko, Tiote and Anita again all good enough to receive and move forward.

    With Remy, Gouffran and De Jong we have a front 3 that are not only creative, pacey but dangerous in and around the box.

    I think Williamson, Haidara, Sammy, Cisse, Ben Arfa are good replacements from the bench or should an injury occur but I would not change my starting 11, perhaps if I were to concede it would be Santon.

    His performance against Sunderland was awful but he was excellent start of the season, and mid season last season arguably the only worthy player to wear the shirt in some games.

    Perhaps that is why I am willing to wait and see him gain some form.

    Haidara is certainly, for me a more competent left back. I believe Dummett actually started as a centre back!

  • 211 BandB // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    Anyone who bothered to trawl through that very informative article Lesh and I posted yesterday will see that even renaming the stadium was never likely to generation much benefit, as it only really works with new builds.

  • 212 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    I also don’t get the argument that Ashley doesn’t benefit from free advertising…if it didn’t benefit him in some way he would sell that advertising space for money which would benefit him/the club.

    It obviously does benefit him in some way and although the figures might be huge it’s still money the club is missing out on (wonga also pay 4mil less than vrigin, going off clubs official statements on fee).

    We can’t be the only club unable to sell our advertising space.

  • 213 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    Mr tuff
    I didn’t even know he’d opened them stores, I came to the conclusion by looking at how the club seems to be going well then wallop another kik in the balls from no where and it always coincides with something he’s doing with his other business.

    I just believe it’s more beneficial to him to keep us where he has us as unless we won premier league the club wouldn’t get more coverage than it does.. CL and Europa are no good, 8th is best he wants. I am surprised he doesn’t try harder in the FA cup with its world wide pull but I suppose that’s not what it was either.

  • 214 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    Remember this gem from yesterday?

    I made a point about people not listening to Jose when he said Pardew was a good manager,people said he has to say that to be respectful or he’s Jose’s mate and i pointed out that Jose slaughtered Big Sam in his press conference the game before ours,19th century football and the Black&Decker jibe.
    This is his response


    it just goes to shoe you are a sheep

    you would rather listen to a guy talking about a friend than open your own eyes

    I worked with a guy in wellstream, really nice guy, would do anything for you, and NO one had a bad word to say about him,
    turns out he had been raping his daughter and she even had a kid to him,
    turns out we didn’t really know him,

  • 215 BandB // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    Long post…apologies…

    As the club appears to be running purely as a business, it makes sense, boringly, to explore the business priorities rather than the footballing ones for evidence of where we are going.

    The club claims to be aiming for a profit of £10 million a year. The Champions League is the top-end cash cow. But that would mean going down the City route, and Ashley appears to have no appetite for the risks involved.
    He has reduced running costs massively and is beginning to make the operating side of things saleable.
    However that leaves the question of how he gets the asking price for the club down to something like its real value.
    To do that he has to pay off the debt to himself.
    It may be that he wants to toddle along, earning himself a few million here and there, speculating on footballers and getting the benefit of some free-advertising.
    But he may also want the sizeable chunk cash he paid for the club back on his bank balance. You can buy a lot of retail expansion with £140 million.
    He is a shopkeeper. He understands shops. Shops can’t get relegated. Or call you FCB.
    Newcastle has no external debt. Nominally it could be shelling out around £11 million a year in interest payments if the debt was not owed to Ashley himself, and therefore none interest-bearing.
    So he is giving himself a chance.
    Compare that interest figure with the cash-machine that is Manchester United. It has revenues far exceeding our own. Yet it spent £71 million on interest and charges resulting from the scandalous debt placed on their bottom line by the Glazers leveraged takeover of the club
    This has had the effect of taking the club out of the first division of European teams in their ability to compete in the transfer market, a market they should dominate.

    Should Ashley sell, I hope it is to someone who can actually afford to buy, and not a leveraged buyer.
    I want him to go because seasons that end in January are no fun. We are going nowhere, and I want us to be a sports club again.
    I want my seat back.

    And in saying that, I accept things could also get very much worse, post-Ashley.

  • 216 pawl250 // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM


    My logic on the Carroll incident was he was putting his arms out to complain to the ref.

    He was almost in the WWE wrestling before managing to get out of the headlock and spin around to complain.

    I see no intent, I see only frustration when spinning around as in to say “haway ref!” then his hand catches Chicos ponytail and he falls to the floor as though someone shot him point blank!

    He should see a bigger ban than Carroll now in my opinion for his blatant cheating.

    That goes for any cheater in the future including our own players that dive, i.e. Ben Arfa against Norwich…..

  • 217 jayphoto // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    Think a lot of people are severely overestimating how much the advertising SD get is actually worth…
    We’re not Man Utd or Chelsea, its likely only worth 1-2m a year!
    If MA was seriously using us just for advertising purposes i’ve no doubt we would have Sports Direct on the front of our shirts and that our shirts would be made by Lonsdale! Its much more probable that no other brand has shown an interest in buying that AD space!

  • 218 Magpie Myles // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    Think Pardew is doing a fairly decent job with the ammunition he has. If Ashley backed this cluba bit more I think Pardew would have us up near the top 4. I think Pardew is trying hard to get us to play a more passing style of football with more excitment and that was evident during the West Ham match, then we lose Cabaye with no replacment.
    My only negative comment on Pardew is that he tends to shut the game down if we are in front and sometimes we need a 2 goal cushion.
    I think he gets to much stick for what he is trying to achieve. With a more ambitious owner we would be higher up the table and the Red Devils would be behind us. Shame really.

  • 219 martoon // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    pawl250 @209 “Touch of an elephant” did you not see his Cruyff turn the other day :)

  • 220 70TWO // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    My line up for Spurs match would be:
    ———— de Jong
    Sammy — Anita —– HBA
    ——— Mbiwa – Sissoko
    Dmmtt – Saylor – Willo – Santon

  • 221 jayphoto // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    @pawl – i took the carroll incident as a result of carrolls physical style. He often leaves an arm or a shoulder into a challenge, more to let the opponent know hes in a battle! Chico’s reaction was a disgrace and the FA have been truly shown up in their handling of it, no place for the theatrics in english football! To be honest, it ruins players! I’d have been a big fan of the Januzaj lad at man utd but his diving makes me hate him, same as Bale and Ronaldo (although he’s cut it right out in the last 3 seasons)

  • 222 pawl250 // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM

    I do not care about the advertising, its a moot point.

    Yes it should be club revenue, but its money Ashley could take back as he is owed it.

    Its not like it would buy a few players with any income from the advertising.

    I think he is simply dangling a carrot for potential investors to advertise and in doing so taking full advantage of the situation.

    Think of it as interest on his loan, its pointless and hardly worth talking about it the grand scheme of things.

    I suppose the biggest issue for me is the tackyness of how it makes our ground look.

    Other than that, who cares! Its not like you see the money lol Just let it go!!

    You honestly think someone else will pay to advertise in a similar fashion, or in doing so pay millions upon millions. You would be talking a few hundred grand perhaps, maybe a few million. Shirts sponsors are much bigger given on a match day you could have 50,000+ sponsor opportunities walking around the town, or elsewhere! even not on match day!

    Yet Virgin only paid was it 10m for 2 years for that!

    The ground cannot move it is very fixed in location and requires live matchdays to gain full value.

  • 223 toon kk // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM

    I wonder what Tottenham will thump us by tomorrow night? We’re a very poor team with our key players out. We’d struggle in division 1. We have No one to score a goal at the moment.
    things should pick up with players back but Cabaye will be a great miss.

  • 224 catchy in norway // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:51 PM


    barrr barrr

  • 225 toon kk // Feb 11, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    NUFC was bought by Mash to advertise his tat. He isn’t interested in the football.

  • 226 cjtoon // Feb 11, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    I’m trying to catch up here and have just skimmed through quickly but i need to say:

    MA wouldn’t have bought NUFC for free advertising, under no circumstances! how would that be good business practice!

    Yes the fact he doesn’t pay for the advertising is wrong morally but its infuriating to keep hearing we only buy french players because SD is expanding there etc….

    We buy french players because they are cheap!

  • 227 toonbrother // Feb 11, 2014 at 7:07 PM

    The same nonchalance that resulted in defensive collapses away to City and Everton and at home to Hull? Just shows what a world class moron Pardumb is. We did amazingly without Coloshitty against Chelsea, ManCity and Spurs earlier in the season. All we needed was for Pardew to recognize Willo & YangaMbiwas strong partnership and NOT change a winning side. But that’s like asking a baboon to do stochastic calculus. Pardumb simply doesnt have the brain power to make sensible selection decisions

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