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Newcastle Now In Free Fall As Spurs Win 4-0

10:26 pm, Wednesday, February 12th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 214 Comments

We suppose you could say Newcastle are in free fall now, losing their fifth successive game at home and their fourth successive  home league defeat a row, and that’s for the first time in 37 years – and the truth tonight was that although the players tried hard, they were simply not good enough against a superior Tottenham side,  and Newcastle have looked pretty hopeless in the last month or so.

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Adebayor after scoring tonight

Newcastle are a better side than we’ve shown since we lost that home game 1-0 to Arsenal, but the worrying thing now is the confidence of the player seems shattered,  and Davide Santon gave the ball away far too many times in the first half,  and he had another poor performance before local lad Paul Dummett came on at the start of the second half and looked solid enough.

But it’s now up to manager Pardew to sort out whatever’s going on in that dressing room, and we have to think they may be feeling sorry for themselves after owner Mike Ashley sold our best player in January – but Yohan’s gone now and never coming back.

And Newcastle  have 12 games left to show they are a better side than they’ve been in the last eight league games, when we’ve won only one and failed to score in all the other seven – and that’s simply a terrible and embarrassing record.

Here’s how we saw the game tonight – if you still want to read on.

After five minutes Santon was beaten down the right, but Tottenham couldn’t take advantage og the situation and then after just eight minutes Cisse should have scored as a cross came in and de Jong headed it down brilliantly to Cisse three yards out, but his shot was saved by Lloris - but Cisse should have buried that one.

And then after 19 minutes another terrible goal conceded by Newcastle as Nabal Bentaleb screamed down the left wing and shrugged off a poor tackle from Sissoko, and was allowed to get in a cross that Krul could only push away straight to Adebayor, and the big striker had the simplest of tasks to tap the ball home – poor goalkeeping by Tim Krul.

After 26 minutes Cisse was onto a good ball through by Sammy Ameobi, as he beat Lloris to the ball but his lob was wide and he should have done better.

And then after 31 minutes Lennon hit the post with Krul beaten, as the Newcastle defense had looked shaky in the first half hour.

And then on 38 minutes Gouffran was through down the right wing, but he couldn’t get his shot in with Cisse and de Jong waiting in the middle.

Half time came and it was 1-0 and Newcastle had looked shaky in defense, but had tried to come back in the game, but the Newcastle team had given the ball away far too much – especially Davide Santon – in that first half.

Newcastle will now have to score to avoid their fifth home defeat in a row in the second half.

Paul Dummett came on at the start of the second half for Davide Santon, who had a shaky first half at left back, and Newcastle started the second half with more energy.

But then another poor goal conceded by Newcastle and again Tim Krul was at fault, as a shot by Adebayor  was only parried by the goalkeeper and Paulinho was there to bang the ball home, and it was 2-0 to Spurs and more poor defending by Newcastle, as Krul should have done better.

On 63 minutes de Jong was replaced by Hatem Ben Arfa.

On 66 minutes Dummett won a corner and the local lad has looked good since he came on and from the Ben Arfa, Dummett got in a diving header, but it was blocked as Newcastle were trying to get back in this game.

And then two goals in the last 10 minutes from Adebayor after 82 minutes and a great goal from Nacer Chadli after 88 minutes made the humiliation complete, and we were hammered 4-0 after losing the last two league games 3-0.

It’s not good.

Newcastle (4-4-2): Tim Krul; Mathieu Debuchy, Mike Williamson, Steven Taylor, Davide Santon (Paul Dummett 46); Yoan Gouffran, Moussa Sissoko (c), Vurnon Anita, Sammy Ameobi (Sylvain Marveaux 71); Luuk de Jong (Hatem Ben Arfa 63), Papiss Cisse
Subs not used: Rob Elliot, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Dan Gosling, Shola Ameobi

Tottenham (4-3-3): Hugo Lloris; Kyle Walker, Younes Kaboul, Jan Vertonghen (c), Kyle Naughton; Nabil Bentaleb, Paulinho, Etienne Capoue; Aaron Lennon (Nacer Chadli 75); Emmanuel Adebayor (Roberto Soldado 84), Mousa Dembele (Andros Townsend 64)
Subs not used: Brad Friedel, Michael Dawson, Christian Eriksen, Harry Kane

Referee: Neil Swarbrick



Tags: Match Reports · Newcastle News · Premier League



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214 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:29 PM

    We should smash up every Sports Direct in Newcastle and keeps doing it until Ashley leaves .

  • 2 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:30 PM

    I like pardew I think he’s a good manager

  • 3 mag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:30 PM

    Still some pardew apologists they should go and hide.

  • 4 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:31 PM

    asenski

    Target of 6th-8th? Nah. I think that was made up by the fans. The official target was top 10 this year considering how badly last season went!

  • 5 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    Pardew out Kinnear in,seemingly he has won several manager awards and can reach any manager in Europe anytime of the day.
    He’s got the contacts and he speaks several languages ….that no one understands

  • 6 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    TS

    I get the feeling that a lot of people on this blog are comparing us to the great team that we had under KK and the great manager that we had in SBR. Both are definite peaks in the history of NUFC.

  • 7 John Tudor // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    he has more chance of bottom 6

  • 8 kt97toonarmy // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    Ive just got back from that heap of crap. It was bloody terrible. If this dont change lads we are going down next season.

  • 9 expatmag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    Too many people are on here are niave if they think Ashley will walk.

    He cant sell if no one wants to buy.

    With regard to smashing up stores, all that will get you is a police record.

    An organised demonstration will national press coverage would be more effective.

  • 10 John Tudor // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    you sir are a total fruit

  • 11 Transfer Sage // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:34 PM

    TDS

    they certainly were peaks but even during lesser times like dagleish, souness, gullit that i remember there was always hope that we might do something next season and now i don’t have that under ashley.

    i might be the only one, i don’t know, just how i feel

  • 12 catchy in norway // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:34 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    noooooo

    we think this is the best team we have had since then

    with potential

  • 13 mag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:34 PM

    @3 isn’t to bright.

  • 14 daztoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:34 PM

    TDS

    What was the capacity of St James Park in 1991?

    I think over 17000 was pretty good for team struggling.

    I went during that period did you.

  • 15 catchy in norway // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:34 PM

    in ashley we trust

  • 16 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:35 PM

    Just wondering why as fans we feel the need to attack and threaten each other?

    Surely with our club in “free fall” we should be trying to stick together?

    Get a grip lads, a divided toon army is an easily managed toon army.

    If we want change, then we must unite and bring change.

    There’s very little that’s united about this club at the minute, other than Ashley being re-united with his cash.

  • 17 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:36 PM

    BandB

    All true (obviously). But what do the execs leaving, Ba being sold and Cabaye being sold have to do with Pardew? Besides, I don’t have a problem with them being sold. I have a problem with them not being replaced!

    Pardew does not seem to be tactically flexible. So rip out the heart of his team (Cabaye, Colo, Goofy, Remy) and he’s stuffed.

  • 18 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:37 PM

    14mag

    I thought it would be you to respond to that

  • 19 expatmag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:37 PM

    JT

    You talking about me?

  • 20 Transfer Sage // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:37 PM

    expat

    Agree we need to find a buyer, well the club needs to find a buyer, we can’t unless we got them together ourselves, very unlikely situation though.

    What we can do is pressure him with enough bad press, maybe try and get some journo’s to see if they can dig up dirt on how he runs us or sports direct…constant protesting might either make him sell us cheaper (not half the price but enough wiggle room to let somebody feel they get a good deal)

    But liverpool protested and a new owner bought them, so not sure this whole protesting will put people off argument some make.

  • 21 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    TS

    There was hope because the really good times were not too distant. And we signed marque players and talked a good talk. But we were often rubbish. But since relegation and the withdrawal of MA after the KK debacle has set us back a hell of a long way!

  • 22 Eddie // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    Starting Cisse was unjustifiable. Not playing Santon in a 3 man midfield was disappointing. Not playing Dummett from the start was perplexing. I keep telling myself that Pards is learning on the job but this just wasn’t right. Damn.

  • 23 mag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    @19 your beyond thought.

  • 24 John Tudor // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    full price pizza again

  • 25 Ashton // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    Pardew breaking records like there is no tomorrow!. The rate at which Pardew is breaking records is a feat neither Fat Sam nor JFK managed to do.

  • 26 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:39 PM

    daztoon

    I was 13 and living in Yorkshire with a Man City supporting Dad. So no, I didn’t.

    Look at this link: http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/newu.htm

  • 27 Assam Toon // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:39 PM

    ever the romanticist or maybe its valentine’s day, voice ringing in my head…”thinks will sort out once cabaye is back from injury to take control of the midfield”.
    seriously, the worst sale during my 14 years as a newcastle fan, none has crippled us so much as this one will. i think i will never come to terms with this one, worst since he andy cole sale if i might dare say.

  • 28 expatmag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:39 PM

    Ibiza
    Well said Sir

    How are you today

  • 29 John Tudor // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM

    dont be silly expat

  • 30 Graeme // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM

    Transfer @ 87 previous post – we were on the verge of relegation to the old Div 3 and that was grim. Someone had a brainwave and convinced a former European Player of the Year to come play for us – the idiot did and we stayed up. His name was Kevin Keegan.

    Since that time I have never known it as bad as it is today, but I feel that Mr Ashley is very close to feeling the full anger of the Toon Army.

    If Ciaren and his merry men can get organised, I could see under 20,000 at next home game and that’s probably the only way to show the world how much he disgusts us with his prostitution of our club into a marketing ploy.

  • 31 BandB // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM

    TDS,

    Some of us grew up with relatives who saw our club win the FA Cup (when it meant something) three times in a handful of years.
    They bred that pride into a generation that starting paying to watch the club in the darkest days of the 70′s and 80′s. Like myself.
    People with boyhood memories of The Entertainers will never understand that.

  • 32 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM

    People have got short memories correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t we be them at their place 1-0 with remy scoring and krul man of the match.

    What did you expect us doing the double over them

  • 33 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM

    TDSarf…Whilst the argument of accepting where we are has some merit, we cannot completely ignore the merit of wondering where we could be if the club went about their business the right way.

    Whilst we can’t expect the club to get it right all of the time, I cannot accept this do the bare minimum to ensure we stay in the league and then stop trying…which seems to be the general mantra of the club.

  • 34 John Tudor // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:41 PM

    tds saying he felt we were comparing this garbabe to srb era

  • 35 Transfer Sage // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:41 PM

    TDS

    i don’t think it was that for me, i just knew there was always hope we’d get a top player in….owen was a good buy at first 7 goals in 10 games, 2 long term injuries and he became a huge waste of money…but was bought with good intention and he was a top player when he arrived.

    Sometimes you need those big names not so much as they are better quality but they lift players, manager and fans to give that bit extra.

    They don’t have to be past its just some lad with potential would do, somebody like will hughes would show we mean business with recruiting top kids like that.

  • 36 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:41 PM

    Ashton

    Oh god you’re back

    How’s the sheep shagging

  • 37 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:42 PM

    catchy

    This is (was before Cabaye left) the best team that we’ve had since the SBR days. But every PL team is better. The squads at City, Chelski and Arsenal are immense! Man Utd are struggling with the likes of RvP and Rooney, Liverpool have one of the best players in the world in Suarez and probably the England number 9, Everton and Spurs are littered with internationals. Look down at Norwich and Swansea and there are several top players there. There’s not a team in the league that is just full of English plodders and journeymen. That’s what makes the league great.

    We’re the 8th best team in the PL in my opinion. So 8th would be a decent achievement. 9th or 10th would not be so good and 11th would be unacceptable.

  • 38 Roy // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:42 PM

    In my humble opinion until we the fans boycott all home games to force change then all will continue as now with only ourselves to blame

  • 39 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    expat…On a personal level, well…although it’s been somewhat soured after the past 2 hours! How about you?

  • 40 expatmag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    TS

    Agreed with most of what you posted but I fear that our reputation past and present will count against us in the change of ownership stakes.

    Whilst we are a big club, we are nowhere near as big as Liverpool in the worldwide field.

    For example, Liverpool did a pre season tour of the far east and australia during the pre season and 95, 000 turned up at the Melbourne Cricket ground to see them.

    I doubt we would get a tenth of that turning up to see us..

  • 41 Thump // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:44 PM

    @BandB (1): In fairness, I don’t blame the club for the Ba situation. The fact is, he’s a journeyman; that’s why he has a £7.5m (or whatever it was) release clause at every club he plays at. Once it’s triggered, he agrees wages and then gets dividends on signing on fees plus he cashes in on the remainder of his contract (that he’s legally obliged to). So basically, every time he moves club, he stands to earn a good amount of money. eg: at Newcastle he was on £20k a week (iirc), he had 1 and a half years on his contract so he would earn approx £1.5m PLUS the £2m “loyalty bonus” that was somehow triggered by moving clubs.

    So yeah, I think Ba is sleeping easy at night with that move.

  • 42 JP...from The Rock // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:44 PM

    It’s the first time I bet against us in a match ever. I’ve made money but I am still fuming! I can’t stand the shite we have to endure every time we play.

    All the other teams make it look so easy against us. Yet we make it look like mission impossible to get points off teams. WTF is going on to this great club of ours?

    Teams must love playing against us and our players must be just as disjointed as we are without any incoming players in January (apart from De Jong)

    Our team is much stronger than when we had Dogleash as manager for example but we lack a couple of Marquee players like the Shearer’s, Ginola’s, Solano’s, Cabaye’s! :(

    We are constantly chopping and changing players or managers and we’re a joke that ain’t funny anymore.

    I am sick of it, disgusted by it all in fact.

    Now this summer we need at least 7 new players without even addressing the issues and doubts the players we already have at the club have.

    There is no way in hell Tight Arsed Ashley will invest in so many players, let alone with the distraction of the WC this summer.

    Once again we will be left wanting more, that we justifiably deserve. It’s all a waiting game I am tired of playing in all honesty.

    If we fail to make any serious strides this summer and in winter I will not say it again, I will only be a fan from a distance and not let myself get wound up by it all again.

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!

    ps. I blame Ashely not Pardew who has been unfairly undermined by the Fat Man every season.

    FAT ASH PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS YOU TWAT!!

  • 43 Mike's Iron Curtain // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:45 PM

    NUFC has been eviscerated and the parasite has taken up occupancy in the shell. Outwardly it still appears to be NUFC, but on closer inspection, things are very ugly. Desultory club, dead club plodding, now the players are recognising that and if there hasn’t been drastic change within the club before next season comes around, destined to plummet once again.

  • 44 Transfer Sage // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:45 PM

    graeme

    thanks…i can’t remember such a depressing time where fans are so annoyed at what the owner does but just don’t feel like they have the energy to motivate him, feels like Ashley has drained everything from the club.

    Remember when Cole was sold, the fans were out in force, now we lose cabaye and everyone was like “yeh i saw it coming”.

  • 45 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:45 PM

    BandB

    No, you’re right. I admit that I started to support the club in 1993 after being taken to Liverpool games when I was much younger but never actually picking a team. I picked the team and the thing I have always loved most is the passion of the Geordie fans. I lived up there for a few years and got to plenty of matches (including a long drive to Cardiff for a poor FA Cup Final that cost me a fortune!)

    It’s not Ashley that is making it a drag to support this club, it’s the negativity from so many of the fans.

  • 46 lesh // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:45 PM

    Of course confidence is down. We, Pardew and players have seen our under-strength squad depleted by injury and suspension which was preceded by them seeing Cabaye sold without any real effort to sign a replacement!

    Kinnear and Ashley have a lot to answer for in living a delusion that the squad is adequate – it isn’t, neither in quality or quantity.

    But there we had both Kinnear and Pardew trying to convince fans (and themselves?) that we were strong enough to, to, to errrr….. to do what?

    Season’s over and what have we to look forward to?

    • the last few games played with little or no enthusiasm or purpose;

    • a close season exodus of any players with any ambition;

    • false promises (lies?)

    • little or no investment in strengthening the squad.

    Same old, same old – what is the the point?

  • 47 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    - Crowd: A witch! A witch! A witch! We found a witch! We’ve got a witch! A witch! A witch! We have found a witch. May we burn her?
    - How do you know she is a witch
    - She looks like one.
    - Bring her forward.
    - I’m not a witch! I’m not a witch !
    - But you are dressed as one.
    - They dressed me like this. – No, we didn’t.
    - And this isn’t my nose. It’s a false one.
    - Well? – We did do the nose.
    - The nose? – And the hat. But she is a witch !
    - Did you dress her up like this? – No, no!
    - Yes. A bit.
    - She has got a wart.
    - What makes you think she’s a witch?
    - She turned me into a newt!
    - A newt?
    - I got better.
    - Burn her anyway!
    - Quiet! Quiet!
    - There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
    - Are there? What are they? Tell us. – Do they hurt?
    - Tell me, what do you do with witches?
    - Burn them!
    - And what do you burn, apart from witches?
    - More witches! – Wood!
    - So why do witches burn?
    - ‘Cause they’re made of wood? – Good!
    - How do we tell if she is made of wood? – Build a bridge out of her.
    - But can you not also make bridges out of stone?
    - Oh, yeah.
    - Does wood sink in water?
    - No, it floats. – Throw her into the pond!
    - What also floats in water?
    - Bread. – Apples.
    - Very small rocks. – Cider! Great gravy.
    - Cherries. Mud. – Churches.
    - Lead. – A duck!
    - Exactly.
    - So, logically–
    - If she weighs the same as a duck…
    - she’s made of wood.
    - And therefore?
    - A witch!
    - A duck! A duck! – Here’s a duck.
    - We shaIl use my largest scales.
    - Burn the witch !
    - Remove the supports!
    - A witch!
    - It’s a fair cop.
    - Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?
    - I am Arthur, king of the Britons.

  • 48 mag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    Sack Pardew so I don’t have read the apologists ramblings.

  • 49 expatmag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    IBIZA

    Yes, we are all well to here although a huge threat from bushfires here in Victoria. The last few days has seen us suffering from severe smoke haze and heat related weather.

    I watched that rubbish this morning until 2-0 and then switched over to Liverpool Fulham.

    In my opinion, Pardew has to go now. He has lost the fans and appeared to have lost the majority of the players too

  • 50 Transfer Sage // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:47 PM

    expat

    oh yeh, liverpool are a lot bigger than us, not arguing there. I just think portesting does no harm, if anything it does good as a dodgy owner will think i won’t buy them i don’t need that hassle but a good owner will think it won’t effect me as I will run things properly.

    just how i’d approach it anyway.

  • 51 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:47 PM

    Ibizatoon

    But we’re not just trying to stay in the league! That’s a myth perpetuated by people with an agenda.

    The target this season has always been top 10 as part of a plan to keep improving.

    It is completely logical for me to think that Ashley wants organic growth of the squad (i.e. investing the profits) and to take us to a CL qualification spot, when he will most likely maximise the value of the club and sell.

  • 52 kt97toonarmy // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:47 PM

    There was just no fight at all tonite. None. If pardew cannot motivate a team he has got to go! Thats 4 games in a row where we havent scored at home. I no cabaye was good but for him to leave such a big gap. Its a joke!

  • 53 Graeme // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:48 PM

    BandB @ 32 – I came back from Wembly after luckypoo stuffed us
    0-3. I walked in the front door and my old man said to me – “well son, I have been to see Newcastle at Wembley 3 times, but you did something I never did”

    I thought it was something to cheer me up and said, “Whats that Dad?”

    He said “You went, had a great morning and then you watched Newcastle lose a Cup Final – I never did that – but I guess it must really hurt”

    I felt like absolute shit and have never forgotten it.

  • 54 BuckLuck // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:48 PM

    welshgeordie9

    Please do as you said you would do. Quit supporting Newcastle and leave this blog. Good bye!

  • 55 Olivers Toon // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:48 PM

    Really disappointed with the result today. With a bit more luck though, if one of our 2-3 very good chances had not been saved it would have been a much closer result.
    Spurs were better than us today, but they have a better squad than ours purely because their chairman spent s**t loads of cash on their team and we didnt.
    I personally dont think the fault lies squarely on Pardews shoulders.First half of the season we were playing really nice football. Quick, fast passing, which moved us up the pitch quickly. Since cabaye there has been a doom and gloom feeling which has obviously set amounst the players as well. Its Pardews job to lift them again.

  • 56 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:48 PM

    4 goals in 2 games have come from Krul parrying the ball reet back into the area
    Ffs lad it’s Keeper basics never parry the ball back into the area

    Awful awful stuff from him lately

  • 57 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    TS

    But the only way we can get a really top player these days is if we pay stupid money or get in the CL. What club out of the top 6 has got an amazing player in? Maybe you could say Lukaku at Everton but Mourinho didn’t want him still and they had an agenda there.

  • 58 mag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    @52 are you after a MBE for services to Pardew?

  • 59 BandB // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    TDS,

    “It’s not Ashley that is making it a drag to support this club, it’s the negativity from so many of the fans.”

    Put the blame where it lies.

    I cannot possible answer such a remarkable insight.

  • 60 Transfer Sage // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    Well off to watch motd, want to see Pardew’s interview…see him put some positive spin on that.

  • 61 Chaz // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    I’ve witnessed some poor performances at SJP and tonight ranks amongst the worst, the very worst of those.

    It is the coaches who prepare players isn’t it? Well they’re not preparing them well enough. Carver, Stone and co – clue up and sort it!

    It’s the manager that picks the team isn’t it?
    Well he’s not picking the right players.
    Pardew stop talking out of your backside. Grow a pair and tell the truth. If you have an ounce of honour – walk away…

    It’s the players who have to stand up and be accountable isn’t it?
    They rolled over and were trampled underfoot tonight. If players are not performing – drop the highly paid wastrels…
    Ship out the dross and replace!

    Football is a results business isn’t it?

    Nuff said…

    Time for a regime change…

    I really found it hard not to swear all the way through that…

  • 62 p // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    The Heed are playing Woking on Saturday, if you are in the region, the best thing to do is go watch them, buy their pies,buy their merchandise and cheer them on.

  • 63 mindshaft // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    To be honest I’m not blaming ashley – pard’s has a decent team but can’t seem to work it out – stone and carver need to take a large part of the blame
    Tactically naive – not improving players blah blah

  • 64 Mike's Iron Curtain // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    TDS

    Shill. Unequivocal shill.

  • 65 daztoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    The capacity of the ground was 32,000 ish back then and it shows that we were then bought by an ambitious owner who turned it into a 50,000 + and backed a manager new to management.

    We then played some of the best football ever seen on the hallowed turf .

    Hence the need for a bigger stadium.

  • 66 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    Stand up if love pardew
    Stand up if you love pardew
    Stand up if you love pardew
    Stand up if you love pardew

  • 67 Transfer Sage // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:51 PM

    TDS

    as i said it doesn’t have to be a top top player….somebody like a highly rated kid like will hughes.

    suarez cost liverpool 20mil….i’m sure we could afford that for a talent like him, even if we sold him after 2/3 years to double the money and reinvest in another one, it’s something athletico madrid do with strikers, always have a top one come in from profits of previous sale.

  • 68 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    expat…I have felt for a long time that Pardew will be kept until the fans can take no more and then will be disposed of to buy Ashley more time.

    Amazing what the promise of a greater tomorrow to desperate people will do!

    However, with each day brings a new opportunity. Ashley could fire Pardew and hire a forward thinking manager and try and show there is something worth believing in.

    I get the feeling though that we’d get another manager who can hit Ashleys targets, which lets be honest, is probably the biggest issue we as fans should have?

  • 69 Ashton // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    A Welshman accusing others of sheep shagging. I know you are serious and all but I literally laughed so loudly my neighbor started banging the door thinking I was being attacked by a tiger.

    I know it wasn’t your intention but thank you for making me laugh.

  • 70 kt97toonarmy // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    Welshgeordie

    Were all sitting down m8.

  • 71 Honkytonk Man // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    Tds

    That link you posted merely serves to highlight the support and loyalty our fan base shows to a club that hasn’t won a domestic trophy since the 50s.

  • 72 expatmag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    TS

    I agree with the protests. I advocated an organised approach outside SD stores in Newcastle with the press informed beforehand but what really would bring the clubs plight to the national attention would be if one of the protest groups got together with NUFC fans around the entire country and coordinated protests at SD stores in other cities. We seem to have supporters from all areas.

    Boy, would thast make Ashley sit up and take notice?

  • 73 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    welshgeordie9

    Are you mad? Or high? Or a mackem?

  • 74 mag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    @67 Stoner alert!

  • 75 scout // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    Hate to admit it but I done 4-0 spurs and Chelsea were 11/10 to score 3 or more against us. It was possibly the easiest money I have ever made

  • 76 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:53 PM

    55BuckLuck // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:48 PM

    welshgeordie9

    Please do as you said you would do. Quit supporting Newcastle and leave this blog. Good bye!

    You ain’t getting rid of me that easily

  • 77 Honkytonk Man // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    The gates were low during parts of the 80s and 90s because….well, I’m not going to tell you. If you support NUFC you should know the history.

  • 78 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    daztoon

    Yeah. It does. But it also shows that was a high in our history and we can’t expect to be there all of the time. It’s not like we were winning trophies in the 70s or 80s…it’s not our trophies that make us a big club, it’s our passion and support.

  • 79 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    I just want to cheer you all up thanks for the compliments

  • 80 Toonacious T // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:55 PM

    I stopped posting on here last summer because I got tired of trying to make the Ashley apologists see the blatantly obvious. If you still can’t see what he is doing to our club by now then you will be forever living in the dark! No manager worth their salt would want to work for Ashley, only to be constantly undermined. Pardew is the type you will attract with an owner like Cashley in charge. 19 of the current 20 premier league clubs have had a bigger net spend on transfers than us in the last five years. Sports Direct’s value and Mike Ashley’s personal worth have soared whilst the value of the fans, the players and even the Managers dreams has been shown scant regard by the multi billionaire. It has to be time to boycott the ground. It is the only way we will get rid of the fat controller. No sane businessman will buy us at the inflated price Ashley is asking. These results and player departures mean that our value is plummeting at an alarming pace! Act Now Toon Army! Ashley Out, Pardew Out…Now!

  • 81 Honkytonk Man // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:55 PM

    Has pardew gave an interview yet? I really cant watch MOTD to find out.

  • 82 JP...from The Rock // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:55 PM

    Carver and Stone are dinosaurs in the game. They need replacing but the root of the problem lies with Ashley always. He just has to spend and appoint wisely. How in the hell he chose Kinnear for first the Manager’s role a while back and then for the DoF is beyond me, it just proves he is clueless and always takes this club back years if not decades, he’s moving us in the wrong direction.

    Although we are lucky to have Super Scout Carr in our ranks to unearth some gems, what is the point when the best gems he finds, Ashley isn’t willing to pay anything near the going price for them?

    Where stuck in this shithole for a long long time until he finally quits trying and leaves the club and only then can we really build a proper team and become successful.

  • 83 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:56 PM

    Ashton

    I thought that would make you laugh you see us welsh we have got a sense of humour, well sort of.

  • 84 Belfast // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    Pitchfork Pardew

  • 85 mag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    All we want to hear from pardew is goodbye!

  • 86 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    TS

    Suarez wouldn’t have left Ajax to join a club that wasn’t already pushing Europe, a club that has recently won the CL etc. etc. Come on, Liverpool are a much bigger club than us! Suarez wouldn’t have joined Spurs or Everton either. What huge player has joined Spurs? They have signed some gems but they’ve also overpaid for a lot of players to get them to come in, especially last summer. Players want to actually come and play for Man Utd, City, Chelski, Arsenal and Liverpool. Beyond those 5 teams it’s who pays them the most and who they think will give them the most recognition so they can move to one of those 5 or a big club abroad.

  • 87 scout // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    The SD store ideas is playing into the big mans hands. Doing this will ensure the stores are on the national news. 90% off everything posters all over the gaff.
    You can’t win. He would happily see us play in an empty stadium. Just coins the money in. I was surprised how many wonga shirts people wear, yeah I know what ill do be a walking billboard for WONGA
    Our spending in the last 5 year we should be in the championship and that’s where we’re heading, I’m gutted

  • 88 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    TDSarf…Unfortunately what the club say doesn’t always tie in with what they do.

    You say its simply a myth that all Ashley wants is to stay in the league.

    The only time we’ve really seen Ashley give a toss is when we were facing relegation last season. Perhaps just a strange co-incidence?

    I have no idea where anyone can see any proof in this plan to keep on improving? Improving what? We improved the summer after our first season back in the PL. Since then it’s been nothing or panic planning.

    Are you saying then that it’s illogical for Ashley to want to spend as little as possible, sit mid-table, collect the SKY money each season, pay back his loan and then sell up?

    We get he’s financially motivated, no arguments there. He doesn’t have to have ambition for the club to hit that target though.

  • 89 Ashton // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    Even Pardew nuthuggers admit that he is tactically inept but they love him for his “motivational skills and man management” and the way he sets up his team. Well.. the players are hopelessly lost and have no desire or commitment. They are just so poor and demoralized it’s pathetic.

    Pardew is the cancer that is killing Newcastle.

  • 90 expatmag // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    IBIZA

    I think we can all see as supporters, what the problem is and with truckloads of money coming into club over the next few months, the time is right now to make wholesale changes from the top downwards.

    Mate, my missus has returned from school camp last night and left a pile of washing to do so I have got my instructions…………………LOL

  • 91 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    74ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    welshgeordie9

    Are you mad? Or high? Or a mackem?

    I am mad, not high and definitely not a mackem

  • 92 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 12, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    “It’s not Ashley that is making it a drag to support this club, it’s the negativity from so many of the fans.”

    What

    The

    Fcuk

  • 93 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:00 PM

    Ibizatoon

    The club gets so much more money from being top 10 that it’s worth it! And sponsors don’t want to support a club that is nearly getting relegated, they want to be involved with a club that is successful. So we need to establish the club as a “Top 8 Premier League club” and we’re there to stay.

  • 94 kt97toonarmy // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:01 PM

    http://m.youtube.com/results?q=the+true+geordie&sm=1

    Watch these videos this man should b the voice of the toon army to get the cockney twat out!

  • 95 beermonkey // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:01 PM

    I keep writing a long winded rant on the club owner manager players but like our players I cant be bothered
    whats the point

  • 96 Thump // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:01 PM

    @Ashton: He’s only a symptom of the cancer that’s killing NUFC, mate.

  • 97 p // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    Yes, the owner, if he wants to continue owning Newcastle and derive any benefit from it, be that financial or other, needs to appoint a proper chief executive with a proven track record and trust him to run the club.

    In turn, that CEO, needs to appoint a proven director of football who would need to assess and review what is going on with Newcastle from a coaching and playing perspective, academy through first team.

    That in turn would lead to many jobs being lost and, some replacements.

    Can’t see that happening anytime soon though. Sad really, because it pay for itself in terms of an investment.

  • 98 Toonacious T // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    No interview from Pardew at the end of Sky Sports Match choice. I take it the gutless b@5tard didn’t even have the balls to come out and apologies to the fans for wasting their hard earned cash to watch that insipid performance tonight?

  • 99 daztoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    We didn`t have the revenue we have now or a squad of international players either.

  • 100 Belfast // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    Tonights interview is drivel, recycled drivel.

    I put it down to science myself.

  • 101 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    TDSarf…I’m interested to know, what came first, the chicken or the egg? :)

    Expat…You best get scrubbing then! :) Take care.

  • 102 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    TADS

    I have a choice of joining in with the negativity about my club, being positive and constantly being shouted at by other fans, or just staying away from this blog and not engaging with fellow fans. So yes.

  • 103 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    So what excuses has pardew. come out with

  • 104 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    daztoon

    8th highest revenue in the PL. Similar to Everton’s but miles behind Spurs’.

  • 105 expatmag // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    SCOUT

    I doubt he would be pleased with any bad publicity, especially if the media report the protests properly.

  • 106 nufc786 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM

    22:22:
    Manager reaction- Newcastle 0-4 Tottenham
    Alan Pardew
    Newcastle manager Alan Pardew: “I was more upset about the performance. That wasn’t an honest display from us. I mentioned a few things in the dressing room that I hope hits home – I won’t mention them to the media. Tottenham dominated proceedings from the start to the finish. They won with a bit to spare – that shouldn’t happen at St James’ Park regardless of who I have and don’t have available. We lacked confidence tonight. We need a break in front of goal. Their keeper made two or three outstanding saves. The overall performance is a concern, it’s not the result or the fact we haven’t scored.”

  • 107 expatmag // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM

    IBIZA

    Cheers mate, I better get on. Maybe I will get my reward tonight when she gets home……EWG

  • 108 daztoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    @93toonarmydownsouth

    Who said that?

  • 109 mag // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    Pardews first excuse is Spurs turned up and we didn’t!

  • 110 scout // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    Can’t help thinking someone like laudrup wouldn’t have been smashed like that, pathetic. If I played in that I’d give my wages back. If any players read this get a look in the mirror, bunch of jokers

  • 111 wynsleap // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    Ex-patmag @ 41
    When Chelsea and Man City were bought they had had no more success or reputation than we had.
    It should, therefore, make no difference when a buyer comes calling. Granted we aren’t in Laandon Town but what we do have is absolutely MASSIVE potential and a loyal fan base waiting to rocket to unbelievably huge numbers.
    Why hasn’t someone bought us because they could be sitting on a gold mine roller coaster? Look what happened in the Hall/Keegan days with a progressive, visionary and ambitious owner and the right people around him.
    If any prospective owners are out there – come on and set this place alight. It won’t need much of a match.

  • 112 Ashton // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    welshgeordie9

    I wasn’t laughing with you I was laughing at you. You are too stupid to make me laugh intentionally . Anyway I needed that, after watching “a Pardew masterclass” in which he once again capped it off with his signature move of shattering a really old record.

  • 113 p // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    So it’s the players fault then Alan?

  • 114 TikiTakaAcca // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    On my way back to London after that display.
    Spending about 250 pound everytime I make the journey.
    Is it really worth it ?

    Feel like going to my local Sports Direct and spray painting a vile message to Ashley on it.

  • 115 Honkytonk Man // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:07 PM

    Tds

    What do you get out of supporting the club? I’m not bring cheeky, funny, sarcastic…I genuinely want to know

  • 116 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:07 PM

    Ibizatoon

    Love that question.

    Obviously the egg because dinosaurs laid eggs so you say “chicken or chicken egg” and then you ask whether a chicken egg is an egg laid by a chicken or an egg that contains a baby chicken…goes on forever…

  • 117 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:07 PM

    TDSarf…I haven’t said Ashley wants a club that is always involved in relegation scraps…he wants mid-table. If he can do better without further investment then great, but to chase much better than mid-table (okay, we can pretty it up a bit and call it top 10 – meaning 7th/8th – 10th) may well cost money and it’s illogical to throw money at something that isn’t guaranteed!

    We were 8th, comfortably 8th in fact and sell our arguably best player and then don’t replace him.

    Yeah, sounds like we’re trying to let everyone know we’re top 8 material and we’re there to stay.

    I understand the sense in what you’re posting, I just don’t know how or why you actually believe it applies to Ashley based on his actual actions…not just what makes sense.

  • 118 JP...from The Rock // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:09 PM

    nufc786- At least Pardew’s spot on in that assessment. Shame he couldn’t add something along the lines of “If I am not financially backed in the summer to make this club great again I will resign”.

  • 119 BandB // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:09 PM

    Ibiza,

    We are now ninth.

    Just saying, like.

  • 120 scout // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:09 PM

    Any publicity is good for him, people will see it and go to the website. Then buy things. Don’t be fooled. He would love it.

  • 121 daztoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:10 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    I found it and what a surprise TDS

    LOL what a moron

  • 122 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:10 PM

    Ashton

    Nah you don’t say and there’s me thinking you being nice

    What a muppet

  • 123 G // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    Are there any fans left to defend AP, stating he isn’t a bad manager, when for the 2nd home display in a row the players clearly couldn’t be bothered. It’s his job to motivate them, and clearly he can’t. Lets get Sean Dyche in now eh.

  • 124 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    Just looking at that 1st eleven and bench is all I need to know for the slip we are on.

    Cabaye and Tiote’s form for the club since the start of the season has been pivotal in our league standing. Take them away and that is are battle and heartbeat gone from the side.

    Take Remy away and Gouffran and that is our goals also.

    Gouffran was never going to hit the ground running tonight on his first game back and pop up with a goal. He needs a game or two yet.

    This team and bench is no where near good enough to battle with any top six outfit. To give these a game we needed all of the players above and that was just to compete in this game. Don’t over hype the quality of certain players there average at best.

    01 Krul
    26 Debuchy
    03 Santon (Dummett – 45? )
    07 Sissoko
    06 Williamson
    27 Taylor
    11 Gouffran
    08 Anita
    09 Cissé
    18 de Jong (Ben Arfa – 63? )
    28 Sa Ameobi (Marveaux – 71? )

    Substitutes
    10 Ben Arfa
    13 Yanga-Mbiwa
    15 Gosling
    21 Elliot
    22 Marveaux
    23 Sh Ameobi
    36 Dummett

    No where near good enough.

    If you want to point some fingers make sure it’s fair.

    3 massive reasons for our form are down to quality in depth, injuries and the selling of our best player who has been instrumental all season. As has Tiote.

    Not tactics, not starting elevens, not subs.

    But Prodigy! We have other players who can step into fill the void I hear you cry! Erm, no. Bollocks. We have players to come in who are no where near the quality of a Tiote or Cabaye or Remy or Gouffran.

    And that folks is why we are in the mire. Injuries, the selling of Cabaye and sheer greed from Mike Ashley with not building the squad or replacing Cabaye. He gambled once again without building the squad because we have been lucky with injuries up until this point and we are safe to him.

    This isn’t the first time either. And to be honest you should be well and truly used to it by now. Pardew is only the fall guy who is hitting his targets of mid-table.

    What ambitious football team sells there best player in January and dosn’t replace him?

    That should tell you everything you need to know about this football club and Mike Ashley.

  • 125 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:12 PM

    Not even worth it tonight TDS

    You wonder why your arguing so much with other fans?
    You come on after a 4-0 loss at home to spurs and start having a pop at supporters and you wonder why there arguing with you?
    Have you taken a blow to the head?

  • 126 scout // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:12 PM

    115
    Co*k pi** Ashley

  • 127 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:12 PM

    TDSarf…It can be an entertaining question and I agree…obviously the answer is the egg…a chicken didn’t just come from nowhere (or did it?!? :) ).

    Now, can we apply that logic to the negative fans vs Ashley problem?

    Granted we’ve always had some negative fans, but surely we can’t apply that to all of us fans?

    I for one considered myself an extremely positive fan, however, not so much anymore.

    Have I decided to be negative or is it more a case of reacting to Ashleys actions or lack thereof?

  • 128 kt97toonarmy // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:13 PM

    G

    Id say lee clark. More passion. He could motivate a team. Im not saying dyche couldnt but clark is a geordie. Nd with the gutless frenchys its what we need

  • 129 John Tudor // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:13 PM

    the slide will continue sadly it will be to late f off ashley pardew and all the shit lazy barstools

  • 130 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:13 PM

    Honkytonk Man

    I love supporting a proper club. Not a plastic club built on foreign money or with fans from all over the country who support us because we won all the trophies. I support the club because it’s passionate, because there always seems to be something happening.

    The last few years haven’t been great so I can focus on watching the brilliance of a few players or hoping another youngster will break through.

    Once I moved to Newcastle, I fell in love with the place and obviously got to socialise with even more fans, it was amazing.

    Now, it’s a bit miserable to be honest…I think I’d rather have the “Armstrong is the next Rooney” and “We’re going to sign RvP this summer” lot back…

  • 131 JP...from The Rock // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:14 PM

    Here’s for a chuckle; Sp*rtsDi**ctNe*s- are reporting that we are supposedly interested in signing Javier Saviola at the ripe age of 32!! lol

    We could have and should have gone for him at least 5 years ago when he was cheap and still quick and young!!!! What a shite site that is. Does that crap firm do anything right!??

  • 132 Ashton // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:14 PM

    Thump

    Not really. We have a good enough squad to give anyone a good honest game at SJP. Yet in our last 4 games we have been utterly smashed by everyone and their dog at our own place. This is simply the managers fault. Players not even trying is only the managers fault. Please understand this.

  • 133 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:14 PM

    Ashton

    You haven’t got a sense of humour full stop, you grumpy little child

  • 134 John Tudor // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:15 PM

    you sir are a buffoon of the highest order

  • 135 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    Ibiza

    Because a top 10 club is what Spurs were for years before they kicked on recently. Same goes for Everton (even with their blips). A stable top 10 club is more attractive to sponsors, players (especially young players) and ultimately a buyer.

  • 136 G // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    @129, whilst I agree I would prefer a geordie, Clarkie is struggling with a squad with no money, not disgracing himself, just struggling a bit. Dyche is having to sell all his best players to keep the club afloat, and pretty much embarrassing the rest of the league by leading a credible shot at the 2nd promotion spot, much to dirty Harry’s displeasure.

  • 137 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    How the hell it’s only the managers fault

  • 138 Toonacious T // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    Pardew is basically admitting he has completely lost the dressing room. This is going to get really ugly if he doesn’t change the manager now. The thing is, I think Laudrup, etc., are far too clever to take the poisoned chalice that we have now become. Dark days ahead. More sh!te records to be broken and now I’ve gotta listen to Niall Quinn bloating over our demise on BT Sport!

  • 139 Ashton // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    welshgeordie9

    lol why are so upset?

  • 140 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:17 PM

    Even possession
    Even chances
    More corners

    Ed you done an article why we shouldn’t sell Cisse, did you mean couldn’t sell Cisse because the lad is fcuking useless

    Not the most useless though, that honour tonight goes to Tim Krul who was bar far Spurs best player tonight

  • 141 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:17 PM

    TADS

    The loss was rubbish. I didn’t watch the match because I was travelling abroad (currently in Switzerland) but it’s rubbish. I’m really annoyed we didn’t replace Cabaye, that’s just plain pathetic. And I’d love to know if that’s JFK’s fault or Ashley’s, I really would. But JFK has gone and we’ll probably never know…

  • 142 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:17 PM

    BandB…Sorry, not getting your point.

    Is it that things aren’t that bad? If so, fair enough, but that wasn’t my point.

    I’m trying to understand TDSarfs argument that we’re not simply happy enough to accept mid-table and are pushing to be a top 8 team.

    We were comfortably a top 8 team, now we’re anything but comfortable.

    I suppose we have a nice cushion between us and 10th, a bit like we had a nice cushion between us and 9th.

  • 143 John Tudor // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:17 PM

    you also said it would be a bad move for the kid to be thrust in at the deep end and that it would kill his confidence your aint having it both ways

  • 144 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:17 PM

    Because you talk a lot crap as per usual

  • 145 jimmysmith // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:18 PM

    I think Ashley probably does have a general and loose plan in place to grow the club organically and to be successful, but makes such specific blunders along the way that what once was a laudable and perhaps even in theory achievable ideal has been exposed time and time again as deluded and fanciful.

    I don’t think he’s up to it. I think he’s a bit of a chancer, whose bitten off more than he can chew. I don’t think he really knows what he’s doing.

  • 146 John Tudor // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:18 PM

    keep your heed in the sand

  • 147 kt97toonarmy // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:18 PM

    G

    In conclusion both better than pardew. :)

  • 148 Ashton // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:18 PM

    lol you are so mad.

  • 149 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:20 PM

    And you called me a sheep shagger

    I’ve got feelings mind i don’t know where they are mind you but I have got them

  • 150 BandB // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:22 PM

    Toon Darn Sarf.

    Could you please explain what this means?

    “It’s not Ashley that is making it a drag to support this club, it’s the negativity from so many of the fans.”

  • 151 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:22 PM

    Ibizatoon

    I normally say the egg when pushed too. Because evolution would say a creature that was nearly a chicken laid an egg that contained what would cross the border into actually being a chicken. But like I said, it depends on whether you consider a chicken egg to be an egg containing a chicken or an egg laid by a chicken. If it’s the latter, then it’s one generation later. You can tell I’ve had this discussion before! :-)

    The fans have very little power here! All this unrest will do is make the club worth even less as other owners won’t want to come in and get the hassle! They will all see a well run club sitting in the top 10 of the PL with 8th highest revenue etc. and think that’s ok for stability. Unless an owner wants to come in and splash his cash, why the hell would they want to buy our club for big money?! There’s nothing in it for them if the fans are going to be impatient.

    I’m not saying, I don’t understand the impatience, I do! But it does the club no good at all.

  • 152 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:23 PM

    Anyway has pardew been sacked yet

  • 153 G // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:23 PM

    @148, absolutely, mind, there’s some moss on a tree outside my back door, which I suspect would also be better than AP.

  • 154 Toonacious T // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:24 PM

    JimmySmith your suspicions are very well founded amigo. I give up! See ya’s if Ashley ever sells up. Until then we are all just p!55!ng in the wind. HWTL.

  • 155 JP...from The Rock // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:24 PM

    goodnight lads I am off to forget this horror show ever happened.

  • 156 John Tudor // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:24 PM

    what drivel a politician no doubt

  • 157 Ashton // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:26 PM

    If you feel down and upset find a sheep and do whatever you people are genetically predisposed to do with it and do it. Might cheer you up.

  • 158 John Tudor // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:26 PM

    theres a slug in my garden could make a better attempt than pardrip

  • 159 Belfast // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:26 PM

    Krul was absolutely garbage, even for the fourth goal, he’s standing in a bad position.

    Pardew also trys to talk himself out of any blame all the time. Oh I told them off etc full of shite.

    If your players can’t give you an honest performance, you need to look closer to home, instead of passing the buck.

    lousy bar steward.

  • 160 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:28 PM

    Why are you so obsessed with sheep

  • 161 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:28 PM

    You are a very strange person

  • 162 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:28 PM

    TDSarf…All this talk of chicken and eggs is making me hungry!

    As I said, I get what you post makes sense, I just don’t see how anyone expects the fans to remain patient…other than that old argument of if we kick up a fuss then no one else will want to get involved. However, I’m sure we can all find examples of that being true and a load of rubbish also.

    Bottom line is few people trust Ashley and his intentions and he does next to nothing to try and change that.

  • 163 G // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:29 PM

    JT, slug as DOF, moss as manager. Has to be better than JFK and AP.

  • 164 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:30 PM

    BandB

    I’ve done so a couple of times already I think…I don’t support the club for trophies or marque signings, I support the club because of what the club is and the fantastic passion of the fans.

  • 165 daztoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:32 PM

    TDS

    Didn’t you say it was Newcastle signing Shearer that got you interested in the Toon to start with.

  • 166 G // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:33 PM

    Ibiza, agree that there is no sense in staying away / protest marches etc. That’s just embarrassing. The way to do it is to go to the games use the facilities, buy the linfords for the kids etc. When the game is about to begin, stand up, turn around and face away from the pitch, and sing your heart out about ‘changes now’. That way we are still an attractive package to investors, we don’t put the support staff out of work, and our message gets heard loud and clear.

  • 167 Ashton // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:33 PM

    Belfast

    Exactly. He is so stupid that he thinks by blaming the players for not listening to him will be interpreted by the fans as the players fault but in reality there is only one person to blame for this and it’s him. Because it means that he has no control over his players. I bet most of our fans will fall for his bs excuses though.

  • 168 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:35 PM

    Ashton,

    Explain to me please how this is Pardews fault?

    What is your main beef what he has done dreadfully wrong tonight?

  • 169 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:36 PM

    Excuse me I falls for his bs excuses

  • 170 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    Ibizatoon

    I’ve just had a massive pizza at a place in Bern with a business partner. I’m stuffed!

    I think Ashley has absolutely no soul and it’s grim the way he runs a football club. But then the same is sadly true for several clubs.

    I think it depends what we want as fans…and I bet if you asked 1,000 fans you’d get large quantities with different answers:
    – I just want us to win a trophy
    – I want to see us in Europe
    – I want to see incredible football
    – I want to see us challenging every season

    I want to see a proper club proud of what it is. I want to see a football person in charge of the day to day activities at our club who can communicate with the fans and be honest with them whenever possible. And that’s why I’m not happy with Mike Ashley.

    It’s not that I don’t want a better owner, it’s that until I see one on the horizon, it’s better the devil you know! It’s not as if we’re in freefall like some other clubs.

  • 171 welshgeordie9 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    You tell him Toon-Prodigy

  • 172 darrylwe // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:38 PM

    What’s with the #101thingsalanpardewdoes trending on twitter?

  • 173 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:39 PM

    G…Did I say that?

    Personally I think a boycott / protest is the way to go. If people are going to attend games though, then protests like you mention should have an impact also.

    I think any investor looking at our club will know that under normal circumstances the fans turn up in droves to support the club. If they deem fan protests against Ashley to be a negative, then perhaps they aren’t the right people to take over.

    I would argue as a fan base we’ve been more than patient to date.

  • 174 Belfast // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:41 PM

    He always tries to deflect the blame in another direction.

    Needs to look at himself for a change.

  • 175 Belfast // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:42 PM

    And Ibiza, you need to get your coat and go home.

  • 176 G // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:43 PM

    Actually it was TDS @post 152. my apologies. I dare say if you stood next to each other you could be mistaken for twins though, to be fair!

  • 177 Graeme // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:43 PM

    Ibiza – that sounds about right mate – what you doing?? Going all sensible and practical lol

  • 178 Ashton // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:44 PM

    Toon-Prodigy

    Our players were hopelessly lost, they didn’t seem to know what to do. The formation was all wrong and as a result we got outnumbered in the middle of the park and lost control.

    Player selection was wrong. Tactics were all wrong. No desire, no commitment from the players. No plan B No plan A. Subs didn’t have any impact and he took off our best striker.

  • 179 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:45 PM

    TDSarf…More chicken for me then! :)

    I accept there are worse owners and teams that are in a far worse state than ours.

    I also accept that as fans we all want different things…this will always be an issue.

    I completely agree with you on what you want. I want something to be proud in. That doesn’t mean winning titles as far as I am concerned.

    I just want to see some passion, some commitment, some attempt to push on.

    Running the club as a business was in many ways needed, however, it appears that in the name of stability and business sense the soul of the club has been gone.

    Anyway, we’re circling again and I’m getting dizzy.

    Same time next week?

  • 180 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:45 PM

    daztoon

    Nah. It was KK coming to Newcastle. Most of my Mum’s family are big Liverpool fans and they would go on about KK when I was a kid. My Mum even dated him back in the day! I saw videos of him play and thought he was amazing. So when he went to Newcastle I saw his charisma match the passion of the fans and of course of SJH, so it really inspired me to choose a club that felt right to me, despite not knowing anyone else who supported that club.

    You see, I support this club because I fell in love with it despite having decent shouts to support Liverpool, Man Utd, Liverpool and Man City.

    People might take this as an insult but I get the impression that many of the grouchy fans on this blog would have been Man Utd or Chelski fans if they were born anywhere other than Newcastle.

  • 181 Honkytonk Man // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:47 PM

    Man city were poor for years before they were bought out.

  • 182 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:48 PM

    Ibizatoon

    I’d love to see more focus on the youth, on the history and on the plans of the club. I want to see a passionate football chairman who can be the conduit between club and fans. Pardew is dour, Ashley is reclusive and JFK was an idiot. We need someone like SJH, Kenwright, Levy etc. who actually gets football.

  • 183 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:48 PM

    G…To be fair, how so? Is TDSarf also staggeringly handsome?

    Belfast…I need to get a coat and a home!

    Graeme…What sounds about right? Surely that’s aimed at the wrong person too? :)

  • 184 JackButler // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:49 PM

    TeDiouS having a pop at the fans……………….again

  • 185 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:49 PM

    Honkytonk Man

    Yep. My point was that I could have supported that club and won just as many trophies as Newcastle did for the first 18 years or so…now I could be gloating like my bloody parents are. My Dad is a Man City fan…

  • 186 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:50 PM

    Ibizatoon/G

    At 6’5″ it’s very rare to meet anyone who could be my twin!

  • 187 Honkytonk Man // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    John Tudor

    There is a graveyard next to my house. A decomposed body could do a better job than pardew and Ashley combined

  • 188 Ashton // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    Also Sissoko was supposed to be our CM. He was playing like an attacking midfielder which left Anita all by himself against 3 spurs players in the middle of the park. This is idiotic and shouldn’t happen especially when you are playing 442 against a team playing 451.

  • 189 G // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:53 PM

    TDS/Ibiza, you will of course note that I deliberately avoided the word ‘identical’.

  • 190 Honkytonk Man // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:53 PM

    I see. But I was responding to whoever said that protests would put off prospective owners. I dont agree with that in the slightest. In fact, it might even make us more attractive. The new owners wouldn’t have to do much to be better than Ashley.

  • 191 daztoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:54 PM

    That’s not what you told me last time it was the Shearer signing that got you interested.

  • 192 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:55 PM

    Once again pardew shows no passion throughout, keeping his hands in his pockets save to wipe his nose or scribble some notes. He is clueless what to do and just turns occasionally to steve stone for some inspiration. Tweedledee and tweedledum. Right on the final whistle of every game he shoots off like a rat down a drain pipe.

    Then on tv he has the temerity to announce that he’s bollocked his players for lack of passion when he never lost his temper once in the 90 minutes. In fact he stood like a metal cut out player. Its a bit late to vent your spleen after the game Alan. Your counterparts (poyet and sherwood) come here, go 3 nil up and still go mental with their players when necessary.

  • 193 Belfast // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:56 PM

    Tall dark and handsome tds ?

    Just like myself.

  • 194 Crawfordladd17 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:57 PM

    To be honest I don’t see why someone who is worth billions don’t want to buy Newcastle. 3rd biggest stadium in England, 10 highest attendence in the whole of Europe, only behind Man Utd, Arsenal, Borussia Dortmund, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Schalke, Ajax and Hamburg, all but Hamburg have regular Champions League football, I know Man Utd are crap but still had a top team. 20th richest club, surely they is some good money to be made from us like a Man City, PSG, Monaco who all have smaller stadiums especially Monaco which make Sunderland’s fans look decent, half empty stadium, crap fan base and there is more money in the English league.

  • 195 Ibizatoon // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:57 PM

    G…Well, your point has been lost on me.

  • 196 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:57 PM

    Honkytonk Man

    That was me. And I don’t think new owners would do any better in terms of results. Where I think a rotten turd could do better is in leaving the running of the football club to an experienced football person in a chairman/DoF/MD role.

  • 197 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:58 PM

    That game was an absolute disgrace. Pardew just stood like the dummy he is on the sidelines.

    Only an inept manager can make half a team of international players look that bad.

    It was Liverpool ‘Lite’. (In reference to last year).

    I stood with the MAOC again before hand to show my support for what they are trying to do. Although it was a small turnout, at least it was something other than putting your head in the sand and doing nothing.

    If people don’t want to waste the season tickets which have already been paid for, then turning up for the first half and leaving for the second could be a way of getting round it. There are ways of showing discontent inside the ground if the tickets have already been paid for.

    It needs total participation, not just a few not turning up. That takes planning, organisation and communication, which is why T4C is the first step of organising something like this. I appreciate their perseverance and will continue to help.

  • 198 Honkytonk Man // Feb 12, 2014 at 11:59 PM

    Southampton and qpr have owners who are minted too. Baffles me why we’ve been lumbered with this buffoon

  • 199 Graeme // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:00 AM

    6’5″ – didnt know we still let the Hobbits online after 11pm lol

  • 200 Honkytonk Man // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:00 AM

    Really? You don’t think new owners would do better in terms of results? Do you think they would do even worse then? Break the records that we’ve recently broken?

  • 201 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:00 AM

    Belfast

    Many years ago, I tried internet dating and used exactly that moniker! It’s funny how I used to be called TDH and now I’m TDS…

  • 202 hadthetshirt // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:01 AM

    The gob shite speaks.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26164013

  • 203 jimmysmith // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:05 AM

    You might tend to think that if Ashley hadn’t bought the club somebody with deep pockets certainly would have, considering the juggernaut the EPL and Champions League have become over the last decade.

    A great misfortune the club was sold to Ashley at that time, I think. Our boat may have sailed without us.

  • 204 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:05 AM

    Honkytonk Man

    Yeah…wouldn’t it be great to have an owner like QPR. Getting floppy chops as manager and signing off on a load of has-beens and never-were’s…

    No thanks. And the main reason that Saints are doing well is that they have complemented their fantastic youth system with some solid investment. Rather than having to sell players like Bale and Walcott, they’ve managed to develop players like Lallana and Ward.

  • 205 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:06 AM

    We lost it in central midfield. Anita was awful. Time after he’d drop back to take a three yard pass from our centre half only to bring a spurs player with him. He needed to be looking for the ball much higher up and getting the opposition to be chasing him the other way.

    And sissoko can’t trap a bag of cement, tackle a lightweight winger, pass a ball or carry it without over running it.

    The whole team stood right off them and so they took the p1$$.

    Unfortunately pardew doesn’t see any of this. Or if he does, he gives no indication that he cares or has any idea what to do about it.

    No motm for me. Pardew’s lost the players. Save to say our most comfortable looking player was marveaux.

  • 206 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:08 AM

    Aaaaaah…Pardoo is “upset”…how about angry with the lack of passion and the inability for back-up players to step up the plate? I bloody well hope that he’s told them that several of them are playing for their careers at our club (Cisse, Marv, Obertan, Sammy, LDJ, Saylor especially)

    I don’t think Pardew should be sacked but he certainly deserves blame. Either he cannot motivate these players to step up the plate or he cannot formulate successful tactics without Cabaye. If Cabaye had been injured for the whole season, we’d expect us to be playing better than we have recently.

  • 207 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:11 AM

    we are 9 points above Swansea, WHU & Villa i only hope in the next 12 games we don’t get a result not even a draw this way we can guarantee Pardew will be sacked

  • 208 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:11 AM

    Ashton,

    Could a lack of desire and commitment not be down to playing for NUFC at present under such an owner? Low moral because we have not built on the squad and left them hanging once again? Players and Coaching staff?

    Pardews tactics and performances in the first half of the season has been excellent, everybody would of taken eighth right now. With victories against Man U and Tottenham away Chelsea at home. 6 away wins is good for NUFC especially at this part of the season.

    At the end of the day, the slide we are all witnessing at the moment is not down to Pardew. You can pull him apart all you want, pick faults about this and that (after the fact mind) but the main reasons are a lack of quality in depth and injuries. Players missing.

    Performances would of been alot better with those players available. No one can argue with that because we have all witnessed it first hand in the first part of the season when we were lucky with injuries.

    There is not one Toon fan who can say we perform better with Tiote, Cabaye, Remy and Gouffran out of the team. We are shocking without. This is a fact.

    Remy, Cabaye and Gouffrans goals is why we are in eighth, hence the lack of goals the past few games.

    Tiote and Cabaye’s battling qualities and talent of breaking down play, Cabaye’s eye for a pass.

    All have been very sorely missed.

    Pardew is not in charge of recruitment or the selling of players. But with him being the only spokesman for the club he has to take the flack when he is faced with problems he shouldn’t have to deal with as a Premier League manager. That in itself is pathetic.

    He could see the problems if we faced injuries, so could everyone else. He screamed for players until he was blue in the face, he always does, and on TV also so everyone can recognise it!

    He should walk not be sacked, but I can understand why he won’t if there is financial rewards in it for him. That is football, that is business. His financial future.

    He has already proved with a squad that is free of injuries, a one where our best players are available he can battle amongst that top 8. He’s got nothing to prove there. He has did it twice now.

    You take his best players away from him without the quality ready to come in and he will struggle. It’s that simple. That’s the downside off not building your squad and having no quality of the same ilk ready to come in.

    It’s the structure and the way things are run at NUFC that is the biggest problem here. Any other manager would have the same problems.

  • 209 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:16 AM

    Toon-Prodigy

    “Pardews tactics and performances in the first half of the season has been excellent”

    you got to be kidding me with that statement, we had good games against Liverpool, Chelsea and a epic performance against Man U, personally i would say we were extremely lucky scrapping out results, did you watch the other games?

  • 210 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:16 AM

    TDS

    you don’t think pardew should be sacked. If you went to the game you would see he stands for 90 minutes with no passion and gives the flimsiest of instruction. He looks to steve stone for a clue as to what to do and they both have no idea. He can’t get down the tunnel quick enough. Then after a game he comes out with drivel and bollocks to insult our intelligence. He’s a complete charlatan.

  • 211 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:20 AM

    What was he doing taking ldj off and bringing benny on for him? Chasing the game, we went from two up front to one. FFS!

  • 212 hadthetshirt // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:20 AM

    So who is the man who puts square pegs in round holes.Who is the man who wastes 1 substitute every game.Who is the man who picks his favourites every game (when fit) It isn’t ashley that’s for sure.pardwho has not got a clue.

  • 213 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 13, 2014 at 12:26 AM

    Black and white with an army,

    What are you saying? Are you saying NUFC should play to a quality top 4-6 standard every single game?

    Tell me which club does that?

    Is our points total not one to be proud of at this stage of the season, given the way this club is run? and the lack of backing for the manager and players? Time and time again?

    He has done very well, if you cannot see that I have not really got anything else to say on that matter.

  • 214 stan anderson // Feb 13, 2014 at 8:14 AM

    T D S is J F K,must be man,the crap he spouts means it can onlt be him.
    And i thought we were shot of him.




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