This Striker Still Has Lots To Prove At Newcastle


Newcastle will not make a decision on whether to sign Luuk de Jong permanently until the end of the season, and come September there’s even a possibility that all four strikers currently at the club – Luuk, Shola Ameobi, Papiss Cisse and Loic Remy – will have left the club.

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Luuk de Jong in action against Chelsea

That’s only one reason we hope Newcastle have tied up Lyon striker Bafe Gomis, because it looks like Newcastle will need to sign a number of  strikers this summer, and it would help if Luuk shows he’s up the task at Newcastle before the end of the season.

The Dutchman seems a good lad, and he’s played quite well for the club in the three appearances he’s made so far, and he brilliantly set up Papiss Cisse early in the game on Wednesday night, with a downward header, and we’re still not sure how Cisse missed that chance from two yards out.

Yes. the French goalkeeper Lloris made a very good save, but when you have the ball two yards from goal you just blast the thing and the keeper should be given no chance.

Luuk must show he can score goals in the Premier League before Newcastle will sign him, and he can play quite well,  but if he doesn’t get some goals in the last twelve games it’s dubious if Newcastle would want to sign him.

And it cannot be easy for Luuk either, after he made his debut in the Sunderland game – when Newcastle lost for the third time in a row for the first time in 91 years, and then on Wednesday night we lost our fourth consecutive  home league game  for the first time since 1977.

So in his three league appearances those are two unwanted records Newcastle have set. 🙁

And as we said ,he still has to prove himself and the very best way he can best do that is by putting that ball in the back of the net as many times a possible.

We really hope the 23 year-old can do that, because it would be good to have the 23 year-old permanently on Tyneside.

What do you think?

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128 comments so far

  • 70TWO

    Feb 14, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #1

    In a previous thread valle posted this article that goes a long way to explaining why Ashley does not invest significantly – it doesn’t balance the books.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/director-of-football-gone-best-player-sold–rudderless-newcastle-are-left-drifting-towards-trouble-9127231.html

    The ethos in principle is sound and despite some very bad decision making looks to have established NUFC as a middling PL team. However the current run of games has highlighted the crumbling motivation of the squad and a lack of belief. In order to rejuvenate performances and the progress of NUFC there needs to be a credible person appointed to ensure that Ashleys aims are implemented cohesively. A knowledgeable and able Chairman will be able balance the books, generate income from the Youth set up and invest in the occasional quality player needed by the squad. Creating a self sufficient and successful club only requires Ashley to make his next appointment using professional methods of recruitment and good judgement.

    A credible leader for NUFC should be in place at least a month before the end of the season to bed in before the transfer window opens and orchestrated transfers of player in and out. I would not be surprised if there is no mention of it until then as a media frenzy would push up salary demands. Balancing the books does not mean no ambition, it requires planning and good execution before success.

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  • elpaso_geordie

    Feb 14, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #2

    Doesn’t look a player to me

    shades of Andreas Andersson – we need better for 8-9 million

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #3

    To be fair to pardew, Remy is our only decent striker. All the rest are mediocre at best based on current form.

    We need a complete clear out in the summer. I seriously doubt that we are targeting the right strikers. I have a bad feeling about Gomis. I would like to think that Bony had been Graeme Carr’s first choice or else I would be losing faith in him too. I don’t like most of the names we’ve been linked with for some time now.

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  • Ben3arfa

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #4

    De Jong is not a target man but our one trick pony of a manager doesnt realise that and will just end up wasting him like Cisse.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #5

    toonboi

    I am as well, there is a point every season where we miss a player or two and we spiral into horrible form.

    We have had good results under pardew but i honestly think it’s down to very good individuals, we struggle to play as a team which is why when those individuals are missing we usually get a spanking.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #6

    blackley

    if a scout gets 50% of the players right then he is doing a cracking job, especially when in our price range….anyone can pick a good player for 20mil but when it’s bargains/unknowns 50% is a good return

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #7

    Ciaran

    Are you going to explain why you consider to be a myth the idea that mikey is bringing financial stability?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #8

    blackley

    do you not think it would be possible to be financially stable in a better way?

    A good manager and coaches would be chicken feed in relative terms, an extra 4/5mil a year at the very most. So if we had them then surely we could develop our players better and sell more of them for a profit getting us better football as fans and also Ashley more money in?

    Think that’s fair comment?

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #9

    TS

    I still have some confidence in Carr. However, I haven’t got blind faith. He’s 69 now. Senility comes gradually under the radar. Many people retire at 65 for good reason. Quite a few die before 70. Sorry Graeme if you’re reading. Many people can be fruitful long into old age.

    The names we’re being linked with in the striker department, the most important area, are big money names, and not necessarily ones that excite me. We get de Jong in and I think it’s fair to say that fans were underwhelmed.

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  • ErnestHemingway

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #10

    Financially stable but unstable on the pitch.

    As a football fan, I’m not interested in the business side of the game. It bores me. All that matters to me as a fan of nufc is that all of the club’s assets are on the pitch, not in the bank.

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #11

    Pardew was Llambias’s man.
    Joeker was Ashleys’ man.

    New Chairman, new Manager, new Coaches and renewed squad. How much would that cost?

    nb – best guess based on Pardews £500K/year salary

    Sack Pardew £3.5M, Coaches £3.5M
    Employ Chairman £500K. Manager £500K, Coaches £500K
    TOTAL COST £9.5M approximately.

    Any advances?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #12

    blackly

    I don’t mind de jong, think he does a decent job of linking play, ideally he gets goals as well but he’s not a bad player and does ok.

    Hopefully we can get a couple in during the summer who are better than him, and one who is prolific, goals win games, it’s the main thing you need.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #13

    70two

    jurgen klopp is on less than 2mil a year at dortmund, not saying we could get him in as he loves it there and they are better…so surely we can get somebody of similar class if we pay decent wages, like most prem clubs do.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #14

    TS

    I completely agree. I think mikey has to be criticised for his abysmal stewardship.

    The position of manager is pivotal. And the lack of success in gaining top status for the youth academy is appalling.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #15

    blackly

    That’s a bigger issue than spending money, I still think he should be signing more players, we can afford it going off what we keep bidding, the money must be there.

    But ultimately if the club wants to be self sufficient and bring players through they need to do a lot more. We keep signing these 16/17 year old kids who are nowhere near first team standard and don’t look like being close….we need to scout and buy better at that age really too.

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #16

    Transfer Sage

    You are making very sensible comments yet again, I believe all could be resolved with the right Chairman at the club. Look at what Nicola Cortese has done at Southampton, he would be too expensive now but he was an unknown business type that has implemented something akin to a ‘balance the books’ ethos. With a professional recruitment NUFC can get back on track quickly.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #17

    Ernest

    The way to get the best players on the pitch is to be financially prudent. And so I always find it puerile when people say they’re not interested in the finances.

    I take your point that you’d rather have a player on the field than cash in the bank. But if a little patience means we get a cabaye AND a tiote rather than an either/or, I know which I would prefer.

    Besides, we only have a little in the bank now following the sale of cabaye, an astute mikey signing. We also have a substantial debt and we have done long before mikey.

    Of course businesses borrow money to invest but it’s never a safe option and especially not in football.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #18

    70two

    I think it would take a few years of things being done right for people to forgive Ashley and accept he has changed.

    But that has to start now, people want change, not just change of ownership but they would accept Ashley if he changed and delivered on what he initially promised.

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  • BuckLuck

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #19

    Plase boycott the matches at SJP. It’s the only way we can do something about the situation.

    Pardew is like the kid that teams up with the bully in the schoolyard because he’s afraid to be the next victim. He is the only man that can tell us the truth and do the right thing. I have absolutely no respect for the man. The faster someone hits him in the face the better. Not only is he a limited manager(most of us agree on that), but he is a cowardly man! I hope this will haunt you Pardew. I really do!

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #20

    im sick of hearing about records we beat man u at home since whenever thats a positive even so the only thing that matters is staying in the prem everything else is irrelevant

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #21

    So I don’t repeat myself have you seen my comment @1

    With a Mission statement and succinct targets from Ashley a Chairman would be able to implement self sufficiency, deliver the success fans crave and be advertising SD across the whole of Europe. Everyones a winner!

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #22

    Fans always want jam today. Youngsters like ciaran who made up the vast majority of the MAOC turnout the other night want a sugar daddy to provide it.

    The only hope MAOC have of ousting mikey is to present an appealing buyer waiting in the wings. That’s how these things have happened before. There hasn’t necessarily been an open door but there’s been a rich man to push on it.

    In the meantime MAOC will continue to get a handful of young kids turning up to chide the 50000 fans going to the match. Those kids will continue to get looks of bemusement.

    I suggest MAOC print some brochures and go on a tour of the far east.

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  • mag

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #23

    Is pardew still in employment?

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  • beermonkey

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #24

    70TWO

    that courtes fella is the ideal man for the job even better he has sacked pards before,

    I had a look at southamptons transfers in and out they have a high numbers of in and outs but most of the time they made cash each year from 2-5mill add on top of that the odd Walcott and chamberlin sale and they have funded there own progression, we have done it in a half arsed way,
    is it 2 year till we get our new training facilities surely its better to get it sorted before we move in there,
    I don’t think we will we will just bumble along

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #25

    berr monkey

    the training facilities are only just to upgrade the medical and building side, the pitches aren’t changing at all

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #26

    70Two I agree. That’s something that I’ve thought for some time. Mikey needs to delegate someone to run the club for him. He has to get the right person of course, something he has consistently failed to do at NUFC.

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #27

    mag@23

    I think he is still leading training, but lacks a little more hair!

    http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6f/ed/e0/6fede0d6b38e21f7f41f73835a06ce3e.jpg

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  • Go toon gooooo

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #28

    Luuk De Jong is good player but together with Loic Remy.Killing pair of strikers.De Jong will assist,Remy scores.Footbal is simple game with right choices.

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  • ErnestHemingway

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #29

    We did have a cabaye and tiote in midfield but we sold cabaye and haven’t replaced him.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #30

    Buckluck

    Boycotts will only happen if we get relegated and then worse; when there’s nothing to lose.

    Who have you got lined up to buy the club?

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  • mag

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #31

    Fat Mike should spend at least 100 million on new players and replace Pardew in the summer the guy has the financial muscle to bring top class Players into the club to replace the plodders who will be leaving.

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  • ErnestHemingway

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #32

    The way to get the best players on the pitch isn’t necessarily to be financially prudent. Selling cabaye and not replacing him was financially prudent, but not prudent in a footballing sense.

    If he was replaced with someone who cost less but with great potential, that wouldve been financially prudent and prudent in the footballing sense.

    When I go to the match, pay my hard earned money to watch a club I love, i don’t expect be ripped off. Which is what we always have been and will continue to be under Ashley.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #33

    Ernest

    My point is that instead of the cash burning a hole in the club’s pocket, if it is patient it might get two or more quality players to replace Cabaye.

    I take it you would spend all the money straightaway for the sake of having an immediate replacement regardless of anything else?

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  • beermonkey

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #34

    sage

    that’s a little disappointing I thought we were getting new, still its still a move in the right direction,

    and an excuse not to buy players like under soil heating was

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  • ErnestHemingway

    Feb 14, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #35

    The way to keep the best players on the pitch is to match their ambition.

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  • John Tudor

    Feb 14, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #36

    and i will win the lottery and i dont even play

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  • ErnestHemingway

    Feb 14, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #37

    Blackley

    We have never spent anything in two Windows. There is no chance of money burning a hole in ashleys pocket.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 14, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #38

    Ernest

    Mikey paid 4m for cabaye and sold him for 20m. You’re complaining because the club want to wait to invest prudently again? You can’t wait 6 months?

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 14, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #39

    beermonkey

    Ashley deservedly gets a lot of stick and is probably a bit reticent, but things have been generally going in the right direction and with the right decision can continue to.

    Blackley and Brownlie

    There is no point investing without the right people in place, hopefully now NUFC are in plenty of credit and with the position of Chairman open, the right candidate will be selected.

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  • ErnestHemingway

    Feb 14, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #40

    Of course I wanted a replacement immediately. Who wouldn’t? If the scouting system was as good as it’s meant to be and kinnear was doing his job and we were as organised as other clubs, we would’ve bought someone.

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