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Ben Arfa’s Time Running Out – 12 Games To Earn New Deal?

2:13 pm, Saturday, February 15th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 631 Comments

It seems that quite a few players could leave Newcastle in the summer, and one of those – as we pointed our earlier today – could even be Hatem Ben Arfa.

hatem ben arfa flying

Ben Arfa – we need to see more of this from the mercurial one

Newcastle have a decision to make on the French International, because in June of next year he will become a free agent,  and if Newcastle don’t want to lose him for nothing next year they could try to cash in on the 26 year-old in the summer, or sign him up on  a  new contract.

Ben Arfa doesn’t seem to have a role in the Newcastle side under Alan Pardew, and he has a tendency to dribble the ball out of defense, as he continually did in the first half at Chelsea, and got caught in possession and put Newcastle in danger.

And the Daily Star today is reporting that Ben Arfa could be sold in the summer, and it’s been revealed after the game on Wednesday night against Tottenham, the Newcastle manager  Alan Pardew ripped into the 26 year-old in the dressing room for his abysmal work rate, after he came on as a sub in that disastrous defeat.

And Sylvain Marveaux, another Frenchman, received the same treatment from the furious Newcastle manager and will almost definitely be sold this summer.

Ben Arfa cost around £5M from Marseilles, and Newcastle could easily get their money back on the player and more, since some top clubs would be interested in taking the mercurial one, and for all his faults in his own half of the field, this lad has been blessed with terrific skills and he is a match winner.

He is also one of the most popular players at the club, and he is simply adored by  a large portion of Newcastle fans, and to be fair to Hatem, he has matured as a person on Tyneside.

And there is news in France today that he could even join his home town club, and his former team-mate Yohan Cabaye at PSG.

Ben Arfa’s record is a good one on Tyneside, and in 81 appearances he has hit 14 goals, some of them the best ever seen by a Newcastle player, and he also has 19 assists.

There’s still time for Ben Arfa to turn things around at Newcastle with 12 games to go, and we really hope he stays on Tyneside, but he has to earn a new contract by helping Newcastle out of the mess we are in at the moment.

What do you think?

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631 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    12 games to earn a new deal with Pardew at the helm……………………..Good luck with that Benny boy!!!!!!!!

  • 2 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    ed
    time for votes pal not irrational ideas he is offski

  • 3 TurkishFan101 // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    “In terms of where I am with the players – I have made it clear to them what their responsibility is to the fans and the city.”

    You’ve made it real clear alright, blaming Marvo and Ben Arfa for the defeat because you expect them to do some kind of vodoo magik and score from nothing. Put them on last 15min on Defensive midfield then tell the media that it s all their fault.

    Benching Ben Arfa slowly till the fans can only blame Ben Arfa and forget about him while you try to sell off our flair players and rot them on the bench. Bring back Marveaux from out of sudden air, tell the media that Marveaux/Ben Arfa/Obertan are replacements for Cabaye.

    Fu*k off you tosser, he makes it up as he comes along. Never blames himself or has the courage to come out and say ” I completely got it wrong and will need to do my homework starting from tomorrow for next game”.

    “Those were the days when Pardew’s planning was meticulous, but senior players noticed a change in the manager when they reported back for pre-season training.”

    “Flushed with success, some of the squad felt that he was operating the team by remote control.
    He earned a basic salary of £1m last season, but that was inflated – along with his ego – to £1.6m after their extraordinary success story.”

    Does this ring any bells to fans? Remember the season he finished 5th, and got a massive ego which makes him think hes suddenly the best manager in the world. Then next season sees him nearly get us relegated.

    “After hailing Javier Mascherano and Carlos Tevez as “world class players” when they signed, he told friends he “wasn’t sure if they are for us” within days of their full debuts in the 1-0 defeat against Palermo in the UEFA Cup.”

    Doesn’t this ring a bell as well, hailing Ben Arfa and even Marveaux as well before then suddenly faults them for the loss of the matches and blames the players.

    “Some of the players were still squabbling among themselves in the dressing room when the manager walked in and told them to “Shut up and listen to what I have to say”.

    Seriously its happening here now, its all over the media after the 0-4 loss to spurs.

    “Pardew vowed to go back to basics the following weekend against Blackburn and it was Teddy Sheringham, who had waited to patiently for his chance on the sidelines, who inspired their first victory since they beat Charlton on the opening day of the season.”

    Finally, this is the most important which I believe out of all of them, confirms his clueless and thinks his own ego of thinking he knows how to manage a team and use tactics effectively has been exposed. He said this same thing after Cabaye got sold and not getting a replacement which he said we were then next day denies he ever said that but he clearly did..

    Here is a quote to prove this which he said earlier this month.

    “I look at the team today and it looks like I’m going to have to draw it back to basics and find a game plan that’s going to work for us,”

    Any pro Pardew fans step forward, expose your mackem cheesy dipped chips.

  • 4 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    the pair make a right good bunch of cnuts

  • 5 yo-yo // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    Turkish

    The truth is rarely plain and never simple as you suggest.
    Good job you’re no pundit.

  • 6 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    same shite different team

  • 7 nufcalex // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:25 PM

    It’s Pardew’s first signing, he’ll not let him go if he does, I think there will be a riot.

  • 8 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:26 PM

    and his managerial lack of skills has not caused one yet

  • 9 TurkishFan101 // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    @yo-yo

    Your previous post about Cabaye.

    This just proves that Pardew only played the whole team around 1 player, this is a really stupid big mistake. Every player in the team has to be treated fairly. The individual training just for one player in the team without getting the best out of others is clearly there for us to all see.We can see how exposed the whole team is due to Pardew’s negligence of treating Cabaye more superior to hold onto him and make him stay, but it clearly failed. Now the whole team is suffering from determination, motivation which gets the players fired up and make them feel that the manager has trust in the players.

    Clearly its not happening here, the recent outburst of blaming every single player and singling out our flair players Ben Arfa and Marveaux while they are played out of position into defensive midfield roles.

    Seriously fans have to realise this sooner than later so this idiot gets out of our club!

  • 10 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    nufcalex

    Why would there be a riot???

    We’ve sat back and taken everything else Ashley and co has thrown at us so why would losing Benny be any different?

  • 11 TurkishFan101 // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    yo-yo

    Good job I’m no pundit? I have sourced out my information backing them up with points, are you scared that the truth will wake the minority fans up to stop giving in and not be ambitious?

    What do you get out of backing up Pardew? some cash from the cockney?

  • 12 TurkishFan101 // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    JackButler

    Well said “We’ve sat back and taken everything else Ashley and co has thrown at us”.

    Some fans say they are fed up but I continue to witness them going to games, buying pints, pies, burgers you name it. Season tickets still being renewed next season.

    It’s as simple as you said it mate, we just sit back and take it then we complain afterwards.

    Actions speak louder than words.

  • 13 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    the T wat has had nowt from me for nearly 3 years never will again

  • 14 BuckLuck // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:35 PM

    TurkishFan101@9

    Spot on mate!

  • 15 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    it has gone from a working mans game to a prawn sandwich money making exercise
    i for 1 want no part of that

  • 16 catchy in norway // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    Jesper from last thread

    spot on

    collectivly we will lose more on out players than what it would cost to get rid of pardew,

    and let’s face it , with the amount of long range shots we have, we are due a wonder goal, let’s just hope we can hold onto that one nil lead,

    it bugs the life out me when he comes out and puts all the blame on the players , like he has had no part in the training them , they have done all this on there own,
    at which point will he connect the dots and think , dam this is all my fault, there only following my orders,

    take obertan and shola out of this equation and all the players HAVE gone backwards , even the youth

    like I say , roll on that wonder goal next Sunday , all the muppets will come in and say , there I told you so

  • 17 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    Turkish

    I haven’t set foot inside SJP for well over a year and I will not set foot inside there until Ashley has taken his merry band of tosser’s back to where they crawled from.

    As long as people feed the man by filling the stadium, buying anything with NUFC on it he will continue to do what ever the fcuk he like’s.

    Time to take a stand or stop bitching about everything, time to prove we are the best fans around and run this lot out of OUR CLUB.

  • 18 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    not muppets merely misguided prawns hypnotised by parclump*

  • 19 Ciaran // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    The devil we know is better than the devil we don’t? Surely that applies to managers too?

    If people are going to insist on using that ridiculous turn of phrase at least be consistent with it.

  • 20 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    Mackems still in two cups! Sack Pardew and invest heavily fat mike in the squad.

  • 21 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    and the scum go pi55ing on
    get out clueless fcukas

  • 22 Ciaran // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:43 PM

    Sunderland have just made it to the FA Cup quarter final, have a Wembley visit to challenge for silverware and are most likely going to finish 12th/13th this season due to how well they’ve been playing and the crucial home games they have in their run in.

    Would you prefer their season or a 9th place finish (at best it would appear) that we will have?

  • 23 nufcalex // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:43 PM

    JackButler

    Ben Afra is by far our best player, we just need him to find good form again and build the team around him

  • 24 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:43 PM

    FFS who actually cares what Sunderland do???

    Great they are still in two cup but will most likely be in the championship next season.

    Stop looking at what everyone else is doing and start worrying about us

  • 25 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    ashley rot in hell

  • 26 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    they may win one and its us who drop

  • 27 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    nufcalex

    That may be the case, but we have seen two of our best players leave and nothing has happened. Benny will most likely move on in the summer and still nothing would happen

  • 28 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    Spend some money Ashley and peddle the useless Pardew!

  • 29 TurkishFan101 // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    JackButler

    I am with you mate, but our fan base still seems to be separated in the middle, 50/50. The first 50% wants a change, or ambitious targets from the owner confirming he apologises for his mistakes will continue the financial stand but will invest wisely on the team, coaching staff and training ground along with the youth academy.

    The other 50% have been saying give Pardew a chance ever since he got appointed as manager and that its all Mike Ashleys fault for not backing him up, and its all Mike Ashleys fault that a manager cannot get a team motivated for 3 derbies in a row never mind not scoring a single goal and conceding 10? This proves my point I made earlier, check out post 9*. No goals have been scored, and the last one was scored by Cabaye.. Furthemore, they think with investment from Mike Ashley. this 50% thinks Pardew will use the money wisely and buy good players, and finish top 5. Sorry but they are dreaming.

    Oh, and Mike Ashley did give a chance to Pardew to prove his a good manager in spotting talent, when he signed Obertan he praised himself allot, had a bigger ego then the king of England once a upon a time and look what that turned out to be? Obertan is not even in reserves. Mike Ashley clearly does not trust Pardew, thats why he has Graham Carr doing the business.

    And for fans that are wondering, surprisingly, Mike Ashley and Graham Carr are like best of friends. So Graham Carr must have said his opinion on recruiting a new manager and taking a look from bottom to top to sort out the Youth Academy and reserves as well as we clearly cannot get our young prospects to step up.

    This summer will show everything we will want to know. But fans have been warned time over time many times that a change will not happen unless at least 90% of the fans commit and be united to get the owner out.

  • 30 TurkishFan101 // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    nufcalex

    We cannot risk building teams around 1 player anymore! Look what happened with Cabaye, you think concentrating on one player and forgetting others abilities help the team as a TEAM for motivation, courage? The reason we are in this mess is because of Pardew making the whole team rely on one player that being/was Cabaye, now look at the big mess we are in!

    Ben Arfa is a really good player, but the manager is not doing any good criticising him as he was being played out of position and rather than sorting it out privately he goes screaming in the media singling him and Marvo out. I see Ben Arfa being a wonderful number 10 but it wont work under Pardew put it simple as. As well as Marvo as well, they are two brilliant players that look a shadow of themselves now. Look at Cisse as well, Mbiwa.

  • 31 korky // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    Whats the point in guessing whats going to happen with players when the fat Tottenham supporter is in charge.He probably has signed Loic but for spurs.The only way to change things is to keep your money in your pocket and stay away from SJP and the crap they are serving up.

  • 32 TurkishFan101 // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    On another note, you guys must know Remi Gaillard right?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V0Pt-aSPQE

    Poor fish :(

  • 33 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    TurkishFan101

    you do make some very good points, I agree that we are now going backwards, and that none of our players are improving under the current management. It is difficult to ask fans to stay away from what they love, especially as they see loyalty above any regime that might infest St James Park, and attend to support the players on the pitch. There are lots of ways fans inside the ground could show their displeasure with our current state of affairs.

    Banners and scarves could be used to cover the sports direct free advertising, 90 minutes of chanting Pardrew out Ashley out would get TV coverage, Take some food and a drink to the game and buy nothing at half time, or wear an old NUFC shirt from the KK era and boycott anything wonga. Probably loads more too.

    Pardrew needs to be told every single match that he does not know what he is doing, by all the fans for all the match. But the fans must go and support the team.

    Ashley would just wind the club down and out of existence if he gets his way, so in my opinion the fans are needed at the club.

  • 34 Ciaran // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    JB

    It’s actually a stark contrast between our supposedly lesser neighbours, whom we so pompously deride as a ‘small club’

    They could realistically have 2 cracking cup runs under their belt as well as staying up in the PL – which I believe they will do.

    Of course it is appropriate to look at what they are doing as a contrast to how poorly we have been doing.

  • 35 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Garbage article after garbage article churned out about our beleaguered club…it’s sad…

    Now our owner and ex-MD are being slated for apparently going out for drinks after we lost to Spurs. So did I! Does that mean I’m not a proper fan?

    I just wish more fans would engage their brains, see things as they really are, and focus their energies on supporting the team and working to improve those areas they genuinely can improve.

  • 36 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    I’m not referring to this article of course! More, the stuff seen in all sorts of publications. NewsNow is full of the crap.

  • 37 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    The Mackems haven’t got a gimp managing them,we have a clown who has never won anything as a player or a manager. The joker is employed to amuse his filthy rich gaffer at the supporters expense.

  • 38 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    TDS
    Agreed, apparently the picture that has been shown is from a year ago. And I generally have a drink to drowned my sorrows :D

  • 39 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    @35 you seem to be mirroring news now!

  • 40 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Anyone who seriously thinks that Sunderland are a small club needs to check themselves. Banter is all well and good but they are a big club who should be in the PL. The nice thing is that we’re bigger than that big club… :-)

    Cup performances are not a reflection of where a club is. Look at Birmingham and Wigan when they won cups…

  • 41 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    Look at Liverpool when they won the CL. Their fans would have traded that for a PL title but when was the last time they were in there at the death?

    It’s crazy bad luck that we haven’t won a trophy while the likes of Wigan, Leicester, Boro and Brum have,,,

  • 42 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    The devil we know is better than the devil we don’t can reasonably apply to owners. You can’t say that about managers. That’s because there are managers the world over with track records of managing football clubs. We can know them quite well to say the least.

  • 43 Ciaran // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    So ALL Liverpool fans would have traded that night in Istanbul for a solitary PL title?

    Really!?

  • 44 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Mmm who’s back slappin now catchy
    And look a team above us has got knocked out by a relegation scrapping team pochotino must be crap and southampton can’t have been takin it seriously joke of a club!!

  • 45 TurkishFan101 // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Yep mate I agree, but I just don’t see Mike Ashley caring as long as the fans come to the stadium it means they paid for the tickets meaning the money still goes back to him. Pardew can be told continuously that he is sh!t at his job, but he wont care, as long as he gets paid and makes himself have a big ego, he is not going anywhere unless a very massive boycott happens.

    We all know, why would he resign? he is very very lucky to be manager of Newcastle United, and its the only biggest job he will ever have in his career, but his dignity, self respect and reputation is destroyed because yappers on, defending the likes of Joe Kinnear and how he has done a good, dedicating wins to Mike Ashley when the fans attend the game get no thanks or nothing for supporting the team and travelling miles from a different country.

  • 46 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Seems typical right now. The most talented player in the squad and instead of working hard to work out a system to work best for him and the team he is just benched and then possibly got rid of.

    Seriously annoying.

  • 47 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:39 PM

    Turkish can you tell us all how all of them quotes are the truth?

  • 48 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:39 PM

    @41 share with us what it is you find so fascinating with the reign of fat mike and how he has improved Newcastle United during his reign.

  • 49 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    Firebug

    I thought the picture was from even longer ago than that!

  • 50 Ciaran // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:41 PM

    Sunderland aren’t a big club. They couldn’t even sell out their stadium for an all-PL tie against Soton for a place in the QF. They are a small-fry club with small-fry fans and we are languishing behind their ambition.

    Sad really.

  • 51 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    Ciaran

    When you word things so carefully that others can’t nitpick and be pedantic over the accuracy, I’ll accept your criticism of my wording. Absolutes rarely exist in life yet this blog is full of people claiming they do. In this case, I’d say the majority of Liverpool fans would rather have won the PL than CL.

  • 52 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    I Hear Death Is The Only Cure For Stupidity… Would You Like To Be Smarter?

  • 53 catchy in norway // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    Turkish

    keep up the good work, talking good sense as usuall

    to bad we have some proper idiots to try and convince.

    these guys came into football late in life , and really don’t have a clue, they have 2 two targets failing different parts of the club, one has no clue how to use players , the other is just playing games because he can, but these clowns blame players

    hmmm

  • 54 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    TDS
    I don’t know for sure, just read somewhere (Yesterday) that the picture was from a year ago, so maybe longer. As for him celebrating a Spurs win… Why would he? didn’t he say himself he supports Chelsea?

  • 55 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:47 PM

    his only interest in football is his wallet

  • 56 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:49 PM

    Ciaran

    You couldn’t find anyone else to argue with? Do we really need to get into this again? You day they’re not a big club because of attendance at one match…hardly proof…I could point to average over 40,000 attendance this season.

    Maybe they could say we’re a small club because we only got 30,000 in our cup game against Cardiff?

    Garbage. Sunderland are a big club, but we’re bigger. So yeah, in comparison to us, I’m happy with the small jibes and jokes…:-)

    But if you seriously believe that, you’re mad.

  • 57 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    time for a poll ed
    lets stand up and be counted

  • 58 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    Firebug

    Yet people also say he’s not a football fan and only wants money. So what does he stand to gain with a win for Spurs or Chelsea? Garbage, he wants us to do well because it boosts the club and its value.

  • 59 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    HBA is the most over rated player we have got.

    he is what you call a selfish and greedy player football is called a team game HBA is called a selfish indivual.

    pardew doesn’t play him wrong because at lyon he was a winger and only changed to number 10 at marselle so he can play either position.

    the sooner he is gone the better, i would rather have barton than HBA.

  • 60 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    for post in blue against in red

  • 61 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:55 PM

    Mike Ashley a self made billionaire that’s 1, followed by 9 or 12 zeros depending on where you’re from that’s almost as many zeros as pardew can field on the pitch.

  • 62 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:55 PM

    tds why does he employ losers to top jobs themjk

  • 63 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    sausage fingers

  • 64 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:57 PM

    If a player is sold who hasn’t been delivering the goods, who cares? HBA has had bursts of form in his career but never been consistent for any club he’s played for. Would be great if he could for us, but if he could do it, the why wouldn’t Pardew play him??

  • 65 Ancientcoptic // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:58 PM

    It is funny how the hierarchy at the club think they are creating a new Arsenal.

    The only similarities being us & Arsenal is the penny pinching and stupid mistakes with player contracts, which Arsenal have learned from btw… while we are still copying their older methods.

    Arsenal have in the past been able to penny pinch because they have an old master in charge, Wenger brings footballing philosophy and can produce young talent. I have not lost complete faith in Pardew yet, but he has no footballing philosophy and does not produce younger players, any younger players in our team get in because of injuries or merit… this not the same as producing talent.

    The whole time that Arsenal were making profits, they had invested in the clinical place at the club, that being management. Wenger has always been in the top 5 paid managers in the world.

    It appears Ashley is building a model that is copying more of Arsenal’s mistakes than their successful interventions.

    About the only think Ashley has picked up from Arsenal is how to be tight with his spending. (There is a lot more to it than that Ashley)

  • 66 Thump // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:58 PM

    It infuriates me that Ben Arfa may be sold because our manager doesn’t know how to use him. Yeah, he’s had some dodgy games but what do you expect when he’s given 10 minutes to win a game?

  • 67 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    more to the point
    if ashley wants success why employ useless cnuts

  • 68 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    JT

    Because he’s paranoid so employs people he knows. He was described as the British Howard Hughes when he bought us. Know who he was? Look him up if you don’t.

    I’ve said many times, the first thing Ashley should have done was to appoint someone experienced in running a football club at the highest level.

  • 69 wolfshead@toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    the manager blames the players the fans blame the manager the owner pisses himself laughing

  • 70 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    dont be condecending he could be adam for all i care explain the employ of nutters
    he is out to bust us

  • 71 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:04 PM

    @68 LOL!

  • 72 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:04 PM

    i wont entangle myself with an ashley lover bye

  • 73 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:06 PM

    @67 explain how filthy rich has improved Newcastle United?

  • 74 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

    Support Ashley and pardew that’s what I say

  • 75 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

    TDS
    I don’t doubt that Ashley wants success for the club, If you own anything you want is to work at it’s best for you. The problem is, he has no knowledge of football other than as a fan and has to rely on others for help in the football side of things. On the business side of things all is well because that is what he knows best, and he can handle that. But he is ill advised on every other aspect of running a football club. We have a very poor manager, and at this moment in time we have no MD and no DOF so basically no one in a good position to oversee the running of the club.

    Ashley has made a lot of mistakes with the club, but that is most likely down to how he is and has been advised. There is no evidence to suggest he has taken any money out of the club, and will not be until we get a look at the accounts. However he should at least pay for all the advertising he has at the club.

    As for ambition, we have not heard anything from Ashley and are unlikely to, the only information we got was from the fans meeting with nufc, and that was not good, declaring we do not want Europe, or cup runs is nothing short of insane, but this is from the same mouths that I would assume are guiding Ashley in how the club should be run.

    Not just Pardrew that needs to go but some of the “Board” too.

  • 76 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    Would be a real shame like.

    Under a different manager he could be a really important player.

    Some managers know how to use these types of players, and some don’t.

    He’ll probably go to Liverpool, to a manager who knows what he’s doing, and be brilliant.

  • 77 Ancientcoptic // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    The bigger question here is, why would Ben Arfa want to sign a new contract at Newcastle.

    We cannot get the best out of him, what with our tactics changing all the time, and our substandard coaching set up.

    For Ben Arfa, what do we offer him? another 4 years being a bit-part player and a scapegoat.

    The guy should be at a club that will coach him at what he is good at and let his talent flourish… Nani at Man Utd is a similar example.

  • 78 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    JT

    You think Mike Ashley bought our club, invested loads of his own money in it and then hires people to make us go bust?

    You truly are a moron if you believe that.

  • 79 Thump // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM

    @Belfast: Part of me almost wants that to happen to see him succeed. If that’s what it takes to expose Pardew, so be it.

  • 80 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    @77 can you explain how selling our best players and not reinvesting the profits improves Newcastle United?

  • 81 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    he bought us burns his fingers, he failed. he is getting out taking what he can and this you sir are the moron
    so up ur ass ashley lover

  • 82 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    Nice to see everybody are getting along

  • 83 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    Firebug

    We have an average manager so I disagree with you there. But I totally agree that the biggest mistake Ashley made is not getting in a proper chairman/MD/DoF from day one.

    Ashley doesn’t have advertising around the club, SD do. They are an official partner of ours but I would like to know why that justifies giving them such prime advertising space.

    And it’s wrong to suggest Ashley doesn’t want Europe or cup runs. The club has said it will prioritise the league, like every other club in the PL does,

  • 84 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    antient
    not bring up our youth is something english football in general is having big problems with, the world cup this summer will be have gerrard and lampard in the starting 11 yet again and will take loads of aging players as their is just not enough youth.
    Not testing our young talent is something i think the FA causes and it wouldn’t really be any different what ever the manager is. Arsenal might be a team who choose to bring players through their academy but the times we see them doing this is usually in the cups and europe but when pardew tried this he made lots of fans angry and if he did it in league games their is now a risk of getting fined, which is what blackpool got when they fielded a weakened team.

  • 85 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    no-one likes to be called a moron by a southern ashley lover

  • 86 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    He should at least pay for all the advertising,you say. Okay. He should at least get a full commercial rate of return on his loan to the club.

    Suppose you paid your son’s uni fees and car insurance, a substantial sum. You also kindly keep his car ticking over while hes at uni. Suppose your son says its its only fair that you should pay him for your occasional use of his car. Your son would be taught a lesson in gratitude if you withdrew his funding.

  • 87 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM

    How can selling the best players not reinvesting the money pocketing the tv revenue employing under achieving coaches benefits Newcastle United?

  • 88 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM

    there is no defence to the indefensible

  • 89 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM

    Wouldn’t rule it out Thump.

    Rodgers was interested before.

  • 90 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM

    At the end of the day Ashley is not going anywhere neither is pardew, so until they do just support the club, because what else can you do to get rid of them.

  • 91 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:20 PM

    Mag

    Our best players? Carroll (£35M!!), Ba (release clause) and Cabaye (wanted to go). Failing to replace Cabaye was absolutely stupid considering where we are in the league. We have no idea if that failure was down to Ashley, JFK or just bad luck.

  • 92 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM

    So what I’m trying say is

    STOP BLOODY MOANING

  • 93 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:22 PM

    JT

    And if we go bust he gets what exactly?

    Moron.

  • 94 naptoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:22 PM

    Yes the humiliating thrashing a are all down to the players we have with a modicum of technical ability …. Santon marv benny …. Nowt to do with poor tactics (long ball at Sunderland etc) or the abysmal Williamson Taylor partnership in the heart of our defence.
    absolute crock of crap Pardew making scapegoats if he was left in charge entirely of transfers we’d end up with 11 williamsons on the pitch who cares if they haven’t got a footballing brain and the tekkers of Bambi on ice as long as they work back. (I think Williamson has had a decent enough season though given his ability just using him as an example)

  • 95 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:22 PM

    So what I’m trying to say is

    STOP BLOODY MOANING

  • 96 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

    @90 your not answering the questions. Where is all the cash going not on players or a Premier league manager so where?

  • 97 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

    it is the right of every supporter to moan you stick to what you know best and keep stumm

  • 98 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    where has all the money gone
    to the owner a fat ffin slug

  • 99 naptoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    Also how many players have had contract extensions renewals under the current regime? I can only think of 6 krul colo gutti staylor rtaylor tiote so benny will be gone no doubt :-(

  • 100 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:27 PM

    TDS
    IMO AP is poor, he fails to motivate the team, fails to find a working formation (usually chooses the wrong one for the team we are playing) and fails to rectify problems during the game, is never able to use our subs to the best of their ability etc. etc. I understand that it is SD advertising around the ground, and it is unpaid for, Ashley is the majority shareholder of SD 67% I think, and he should be making sure that our club benefits from this. If they are our partners as you say, why are they getting everything for free? I never suggested that Ashley did not want to go for cups/Europe, I said we only heard from the “board” members from NUFC, and it is they who declared that the club should try to avoid the Europa league as it is not cost effective, and that AP should (as you say) prioritise the league over going for a domestic cup. maybe because winning a domestic cup would take us into Europe. Ashley needs to have a rethink and get some people in who are capable of running the club.

  • 101 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM

    welsh
    welcome to the world of cyber bullying
    the internet will always have this problem, physical contact is not possible in the virtual world so word abuse has advantages.

    the british short track skater herself suffered cyber bullying yesterday so no one is safe really.

  • 102 Ancientcoptic // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    toonking – That is a fair point, we have not had much in the way of young talent.

    Pardew has been with us for 3 years though, that is ample time in my estimation for him to have found a few young talents, and worked towards producing them into our first team.

    Going forward from here, I am going to stay quiet on that one. It is my hope that Pardew makes at least 5 changes for our next game, and brings Adam Armstrong through. I live in hope.

  • 103 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:30 PM

    Ashley just gives the apologists an opportunity to antagonize the anti fat mike bloggers.

  • 104 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    tds if we go bust he gets fall we however will start again i will be there you however may be at crawley town an even thicker moron

  • 105 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:32 PM

    Keep asking the apologists where the cash is going and they’re lost!

  • 106 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:33 PM

    102mag

    Who are you referring to

  • 107 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:33 PM

    Mag

    Read the accounts if you want to know where the cash is going. We’re barely breaking even because players benefit more than anyone else from tv revenues.

    If mikey should pay for advertising, should he be able to recoop it by paying himself a salary or dividend as our previous owners were partial to do? After all, he is the club owner and can take any profit as dividend just like any other owner of any other company.

  • 108 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:35 PM

    Mag

    Read the accounts if you want to know the details.

    There are a lot of costs involved in running a PL club.

    I used the example before. If you have £60M to spend would you rather sign 5 top players for free on 5 years contracts for £40kpw each = say £10M signing in and agents fees plus total £50M wages.

    OR

    Would you rather sign 2 top players for £18M each on the same wages. Add another £4M in other fees and that’s £60M too.

    Same money but with this first, people say we spent nothing, with the second people say we spent £36M. What would you prefer?

  • 109 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    supporters care naff all of accounts we just want a team playing decent football

  • 110 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    Too king

    Who are you refering to

  • 111 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:37 PM

    Toon King

    Who are you refering to

  • 112 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:37 PM

    dont answer that mag its not worth it

  • 113 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:37 PM

    @106 keep in touch with yourself! Welshgeordie your just an irritant with nothing else to do!

  • 114 yo-yo // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:37 PM

    Turkish

    On Cabs
    I was making the point that Cabs had a bigger presence in cementing the team than his playing role might suggest. All managers need leaders in their sides. They galvanise the side on the pitch. Looks like Cabs had a big influence in terms of team confidence building. Also Pardew has not only lost a dressing room leader he has had the ground cut from under him by Ashley yet again because he has weakened the team part way through a season. Surely you can see that ?
    This was nothing like the simplistic mis-interpretation you put on my post.

    Post 11

    You are still in the minority – suprisingly the Chronicle’s last survey showed about 75% still okay with Pardew. Maybe most fans are more sympathetic to him because of the merde dropped on him by the owner. It’s not a question of any particular group of fans lacking ambition for the club – that is all down to the owner…and I can’t think of a single Toon fan who enjoys the current mid table mediocrity to which we are doomed – especially as we were so close to having a really competitive side.

    I’m afraid Benny has flattered to deceive all through his career. Don’t overrate him and then use this as justification for your critical views. He really isn’t that good – week in week out. A lot of gifted players blow hot and cold and sadly he’s one of them. Great when they’re hot – but his issues with form, motivation and consistency seem to come more from within..

    You’ll just have to enjoy the banter with Catchy, etc., if you merely want to reinforce your prejudices. The bribery comment is just so playground insult stupid that you’ll enjoy his company.

  • 115 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:38 PM

    Mag

    You’re saying he’s pocketing the cash. We’re not making any such accusations. So it is down to you to support with evidence any such accusation. You’d think NUFC had a pot of gold.

    The carroll cash has all been accounted for. It was used by the club to finance its running and other costs including purchases, wages and agent fees.

  • 116 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:39 PM

    firebug
    how many more people do you need to see appointed before you will have learned that ashley will not do that.

    1st Big sam
    2nd wise
    3rd JFK
    4th lambias
    5th pardew
    6th JFK AGAIN
    the only 2 he has appointed which were good is shearer and keegan and people are certain that he used them to try and hide his true identity.

  • 117 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:39 PM

    there are some escaped loonies out today thinking monetary appeasement freekin bullshit ashley propaganda

  • 118 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:39 PM

    Ben Arfa has played under many many well respected coaches within the game

    Not one of them unlocked his potential
    Not one of them turned him into a consistent performer
    Not one of them had the patience to keep him around to get him to progress

    I’ve said this many times Pardew has enough faults to justify having his critics, there is no need to make them up
    Blaming Ben Arfa’s underwhelming career on Tyneside on Pardew is ludicrous, Deschamps, Blanc, Perrin not one of them got anything from HBA
    And guess who they pinned the blame on for his lack of progression, yup HBA himself
    Same goes for those who say keeping *cough* top players like Marv out the squad is a travesty, look it up, Marv’s been a bench warmer his whole career at a much smaller club than this one

  • 119 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:40 PM

    You got to laugh though

  • 120 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:40 PM

    Where’s all the cash going if not on players?

  • 121 toonluvva // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:40 PM

    Time & time again I sat and watched us struggle in a match with Hatem on the bench, then with 10 minutes left Pardew would bring him on.

    Hatem then had to try and score a wonder goal for us, hence he became more and more selfish. He knew that if he scored then his chances of starting the next match would improve.

    Sitting for 80 minutes on the bench game after game reduced his match fitness so that when he eventually started he ran out of steam in the second half.

    Do we build a team around Hatem? I’ll leave you all to make up your minds on that one. But it will be the only way we will be likely to keep him.

  • 122 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:41 PM

    TDS

    Good point you made to Mag. Well put.

  • 123 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:41 PM

    Firebug

    I think we’re better placed for EL now, but I don’t think any PL team wants it unless they’re geared up to fighting for that and challenge for the CL at the same time. Not only the drag on the players but it limits the preparation for the next PL game.

    A cup would mean the world to the fans and would be great for the club. No way would anyone at the club allow us to not go after one. Our teams in the cups were almost full strength.

    Look at all the supposed good managers in the PL who have been sacked this season. Pardew is in the middle of the PL managers but Ic love to see us get a really top manager. I hope this happens when we’re geared up to challenge the top 4.

  • 124 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:43 PM

    welsh i’m referring to no one in perticular just the virtual world in general it has cyber bullies ie catchy.

    things wouldn’t be so bad if their was an ignore button

  • 125 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:43 PM

    The 15th richest man in the UK, isn’t spending the wonga cash or the tv revenue or even the Cabaye or Carroll profit, so where is it going?

  • 126 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM

    You’re are right about online bullying in the past week I’ve been called a sheep shagger twice, and irritant and I don’t know if the word Lonnie is directed at me as well but keep them coming I just take as compliment but I thought you Geordies have a senses of humour

  • 127 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:45 PM

    TADS 117

    Spot on.

    Same argument I’ve applied to Ashley. He’s done enough stupid things to avoid needing to make things up.

  • 128 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:45 PM

    the europa cup win leads to champs league rimmer or did you not know that

  • 129 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:45 PM

    It

  • 130 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:45 PM

    Toonking
    I don’t disagree with you on that, but what I am saying is he has been ill advised by those who think they know better and thus made mistakes. Now he has a chance to make it right by appointing say a MD who has the knowledge to run the football club the way it should be run. then he could sit back and let the club run itself as was his plan in the first place, to make the club self-sufficient.

  • 131 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    @125 we have we tolerate Ashley!

  • 132 naptoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    Tds
    Crock of crap we are the ONLY team who factor in wages agent fees when releasing fee details so the regime don’t look like cheapskates. Every single team in existence professionally Also have to pay wages agents etc we are bottom of the transfer league … FACT and you can waffle your drivel about agents etc but everyone else pays them and we are still bottom.
    It is complete stupidity bussines wise to spend 9 mill per year less than your rivals on enhancing assets and expect to remain competitive yet you and other sheep like blacklie still chomp down on the steaming turds the ‘board’ serve you every single window.

  • 133 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    Sense

  • 134 yo-yo // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:47 PM

    TDS

    You are confusing capital and revenue yet again in your example.

    A player has a resale value and hence is a capital asset – a footballer is working capital, the ground is fixed capital. But both have a value.

    That a player’s value may rise with good form or decline with bad form and through the duration of their contract is normally just put down as depreciation.
    A normal business would calculate the rate of depreciation and put aside funds (used to be called a ‘sinking fund’) to sustain the value of the capital in the business. Ashley just does not seem to do that in a recognisable way.

    Their wages and the related costs associated with managing them are revenue costs and are totally different on a balance sheet.

    I see you’re still sticking to apologising / justifying Ashley’s custodianship of our club – fair do’s if you think you can do it but your argument on transfers is just plain wrong.

  • 135 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:47 PM

    Mag

    Read my post 107 or read the accounts if you want the detail.

    If you don’t understand either, stop making statements that make you look stupid.

  • 136 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    antient

    i’ve not got much hope of us seeing adam armstrong being used this season as our team can’t afford to leave remy out as he is our only player with goals in him at the minute and if we wanting to keep dejong the worst thing would be to drop him the same with cisse, also i our creativity in midfield is too weak.

    the two i pardew has got to start using in the starting 11 for the rest of this season is dummett and sammy.

  • 137 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    the regime stinks to high heavens just get out
    i will take nonleague football if it gets rid of them i doubt he would be here long enough

  • 138 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    mag

    I know everybody hates pardew and Ashley I’m just trying to make a joke of it

  • 139 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    hoho pot calling kettle there

  • 140 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    @134 your the one who comes across as an idiot grow up and ask where the money is.

  • 141 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    Yo-yo

    I grasp accounts including amortisation on assets. I don’t want to get into an accurate accounts conversation on a football blog.

    In simple terms my example is correct. £60M spent is £60M spent, regardless of how it is accounted for in the accounts.

  • 142 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    Mag

    And I have got plenty time on my hands as I don’t work weekends

  • 143 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    accounts can and have been manipulated no shocks there rimmer

  • 144 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    Mag

    Are you really young or just stupid?

    I’ve given you the answer. I won’t bother again.

  • 145 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:53 PM

    yeah keep stumm

  • 146 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:53 PM

    @143 all you’ve printed is a load of bollocks and the money is still missing.

  • 147 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:54 PM

    rimmer= b.o.b.

  • 148 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    Naptoon

    You’re confusing your stats and facts again. Arsenal and Everton are also low down on this transfer table yet they do ok right? Different models for different clubs. Big deal.

    I agree it was weird (although strictly accurate) when the club said they had invested a lot of money that January and included other fees and wages, but it did demonstrate my point made in post 107.

  • 149 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    Can’t we all just kiss and make up

  • 150 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:56 PM

    If not go and support the mackems

  • 151 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:56 PM

    football men at the top decent managers nufc shit at top shit manger whats to prove

  • 152 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    why you no support cardigan

  • 153 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    or airbus

  • 154 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:59 PM

    ridiculous comments

  • 155 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:59 PM

    Mag @145

    Exactly what money is missing. Have you had a look at the accounts of the club? I don’t see how money can be missing, it may be in the bank (NOT SPENT) or we may not have received it yet, i.e. TV money. So I wonder what money is missing?

  • 156 naptoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 4:59 PM

    No Tds you are mixing up facts we were bottom by a considerable margin to suit your opinion statistically and factually we spend less than every other prem club on playing assets (net)

  • 157 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    he is on his abacus seeking the truth he will be bone some time

  • 158 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    or seeking fat ashleys advice

  • 159 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    Pardew for England

  • 160 naptoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    Oh and darnsarf statistics are facts but they can be interprets differently.

  • 161 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:07 PM

    Pardrew for Wales? :D

  • 162 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:07 PM

    Naptoon

    We were also relegated recently and had to sell a lot of players to make up for big losses that year.

  • 163 naptoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:07 PM

    *interpreted stupid phone

  • 164 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:07 PM

    I bet you when we sign 5 or 6 players in the summer nobody will be moaning about the management

  • 165 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    thats the world cup chances gone
    the players were too tired from the previous games
    after first one played
    we hammered them first half then we to the foot of the gas
    yeh right

  • 166 Ciaran // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    TDS

    Why do you assume that because I disagree with what you’re saying that I must automatically want to argue with you.

    Says a lot about your view on opinions and debates.

  • 167 Mister Tuff // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    I see that Sports Direct News has morphed into Football Direct News. I can only assume that the change in name ie removing SportsDirect -is an attempt to make the website more credible/believable -but we still know it’s Sports Direct.
    They are now peddling the story that Debuchy will be away in the summer.
    Mr Tubbs’ propaganda machine just beginning to rev up to full speed – to set the seeds for summer disappointment/discontent.

  • 168 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    Welshgeordie

    Not so sure about that, signing players is a good thing, but if we still have the same old board and management nothing much will have changed.

  • 169 naptoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    Those players had to go but we didn’t have to sell Milner and given without replacing them did we?
    Darnsarf I don’t doubt your love of the toon that’s why I just can’t see why you repeatedly defend ashs stupidity greed etc

  • 170 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    if its still parclump we will
    he will just parflap them

  • 171 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    firebug

    even if we did get a good managing director that still leaves us the problems of proving to a player and manager that ashley is not going to sell a key player with out replacements which is what has happened in the last 3 winter transfer windows or that ashley will improve the squad in the summer transfer window which is what he has not did in the last two summers.

    when pardew himself is always using excuses like we missing key players and we didn’t replace a player ashley is the one giving him that excuse.

    the thing that would benifit both those who already hate pardew and those who still feel he is being forced into these problems is for mike ashley to spend a massive amount of money on players this summer that pardew himself wants, then we will know once and for all who is right and weather or not pardew is poor average or good.

  • 172 Mister Tuff // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:11 PM

    TDS/Blacklie and Brownlie —– not meaning any offence but are you related at all.

  • 173 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:11 PM

    So the apologists have scrutinised Ashleys accounts and concluded the incomings don’t cover the outgoings a total load of bollocks.

  • 174 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    ashley clones

  • 175 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:13 PM

    clowns…… correction

  • 176 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    nope right first time

  • 177 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:15 PM

    Naptoon

    Yes. So it’s pointless making sweeping statements without considering more of the facts. We have spent less on transfer fees (true) but if it’s compensated by spending more on other transfer related fees and wages, is that a bad thing? Try comparing our transfer business (players, not money) since being promoted with other PL clubs, beyond the top 6, have any other clubs done better? I doubt it.

  • 178 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    Toonking

    A good response: I would think that with a knowledgeable MD at the helm, and as you say good player brought in, AP would have to improve or he would be sacked. I think judging by what we have seen so far the the latter would apply.

    A new MD with full control of the running of the club would not suffer AP’s excuses for long.

    I do agree that if AP was to get 4 or 5 players that he wanted then he would have to be challenging in the top six or get out of the club.

  • 179 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    We have got a good squad if we played well in the first half of the season then why can’t we Finnish the second half of the season well.

    It’s the same players we had in August apart from de jong, so if we add like said with 5or6 players in the summer we will do well

  • 180 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    Ciaran

    Because you agreed that we wouldn’t get into discussions in here because they are never productive and because it looked like nobody was interested/capable of entering into a debate with you so it looked to me like you decided to try and pick a fight elsewhere…

  • 181 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    its a bad thing
    paying people who dont work for you
    paying people who work for you and dont deliver

  • 182 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    @176 your a complete idiot!

  • 183 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    But it was pardew and co that got us finishing 5th in the first place

  • 184 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:19 PM

    Naptoon

    Milner wasn’t fancied by our managers and never really fitted in. People thought that was a great deal at the time! Given…wanted to go to a CL team and people were crying out for Harper to play at he time.

    Only reason people were unhappy with Milner going was because he went for even bigger money to crazy City a year or so later…

  • 185 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:20 PM

    @183 do you actually know anything about football?

  • 186 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:21 PM

    Mag

    It’s a shame there isn’t an age limit in this site. I think you’re about 14 and have a lot of growing up to to. Don’t you get bored of saying the same negative crap again and again?

  • 187 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:21 PM

    John Tudor

    Have I got to add clones and clowns to my ever growing list

  • 188 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    well you keep lying whats the difference

  • 189 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    @185 like you do?

  • 190 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM

    add what you like its a reference to tds black eye and brown toe

  • 191 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM

    Who keeps lying

  • 192 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM

    Wow. Conversation over mag. I have better things to do.

  • 193 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:24 PM

    im off ski better fish to fry

  • 194 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:24 PM

    @185 you still haven’t answered how you think Ashley has made Newcastle United a better club.

  • 195 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:25 PM

    the salmon flying?

  • 196 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    better in the eyes of a blind imbecile

  • 197 naptoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    Milner imo was probs our best player (form or otherwise and potential) his sale is what formed part of the forcing out of Keegan (constructive dismissal so I rekon forced out suits). So again I just can’t see how you defend it mate.

  • 198 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    God you lot are boring tonight

  • 199 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    @191 instead of trying to sound controversial just admit you don’t know what you are talking about.

  • 200 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    what i would like to see arrive this summer is

    1LW
    1RW
    1CAM
    and
    2 forwards

    the most important thing of all but is we should bring in more english such as ince, they might not have the talent of the cabaye’s but what they do have is lots more passion and leadership which we lost most of when nolan barton and carroll were sold.

  • 201 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    go blow ur trumpet on a faith suprune then no offence jock

  • 202 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    Welsh

    Are we boring? I have posted to you twice tonight without reply, just wondering if I have to insult you first? :D

  • 203 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:31 PM

    new dof ,chairman and a new manger god willing we are still in pl

  • 204 naptoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:31 PM

    Toon king
    Centre backs? I’d like to see at least 2.

  • 205 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:32 PM

    Naptoon

    Yet he was loaned to Villa for a season before Ashley took over and he left because he handed in a transfer request because he wanted more money?

    I don’t believe Milner had anything to do with KK leaving or the court case! You’re reaching here,

  • 206 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:32 PM

    200John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    go blow ur trumpet on a faith suprune then no offence jock

    Have you been drinking

  • 207 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:33 PM

    I would like to see Haidara get a run at LB.

  • 208 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:33 PM

    brisket juice i

  • 209 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:33 PM

    You can insult me if want everybody else have

  • 210 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    Naptoon

    Nufc’s business plan is to try not to pay massive fees for players. Certainly they try to avoid being held to ransom by clubs and agents in bidding wars, even it means they can’t immediately reinvest.

    If nufc get a player out of contract or near its end or with a reasonable buy out clause, they pay little or nothing to the selling club. However, the player is in the driving seat and commands a lucrative contract. Generally speaking, he will go to the club who will pay him the most. Once the player is under contract, they can make a fortune on him later if he’s good enough. They also stand to lose a fortune if he turns out to be a dud (xisco, alan smith). Such lucrative contracts don’t figure in the tables. In fact the only way people have any idea about how much nufc pays is from information from the selling club, which may not be reliable. Nufc don’t tend to disclose details.

  • 211 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:35 PM

    has has dear chap no offence intented just having a bit of jolly

  • 212 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:36 PM

    Welsh

    I too old and long in the tooth to play those games. I don’t mind a good debate, but when it drops into name calling it ceases to be a debate. I’ll talk with anyone and respect their opinion even if I cannot agree, regardless of where they come from.

  • 213 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:37 PM

    smoke this then
    its a bad thing to……
    pay people who dont work for you
    paying people who work for you and dont deliver

  • 214 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:37 PM

    naptoon
    them positions for replacements in starting 11.
    but we could use 1 CB.

    the squad depth needs lots more and that’s where i’ve be considering the likes of ince to be bought.

  • 215 naptoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:37 PM

    No Tds it defo did have a large part to do with court case it was the great sbr that bought Milner and the pathetic souness who treated him like that so it’s you who is reaching its common knowledge it’s why Keegan left again why defend and excuse his actions ??? Just don’t get it

  • 216 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    its offence to be labelled a moron then

  • 217 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:40 PM

    I’m the bloody one who’s got picked on

  • 218 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:40 PM

    youre welsh matey theres not a picking on you

  • 219 naptoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:41 PM

    Toonking
    Yeah I’m dreaming but I’d love a top no nonsense centre back to go straight in and better cover … Tayls can go for me I’m afraid.
    I’m a benny lover so I would ditch one winger from your list I think we are both dreaming tho :-(

  • 220 mainemagpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:41 PM

    If these murmurs about Ben Arfa and Marveaux being blasted by Pardew turn out to be true then the only person that needs to leave NUFC is Alan Pardew. He should be fired immediately.

    The only thing wrong with this football club at the moment is the inability of the Manager to manage a football team. He lost Cabaye, so? his replacement is already at the club Sylvain Marveaux he is an attacking mid-field player. Instead Pardew plays the diminutive Anita in that role…he’s a defending mid-field player!

    Since Pardew has no distinguishable footballing style his players are left to figure out themselves every match how they are going to play. Every player has a role to play, Pardew changes that role so often, or worse plays them in role they are not suited to. The same things happening on the pitch with Newcastle are the same things that have happened with every team Pardew has ever managed. Read the articles about him and you will know this is true. Previous owners of teams have recognized this with Pardew and fired him before too much damage was done. Ashley needs to do the same. Despite the hatred for the owner of this club, he does not control what happens on the training ground, in the locker room or on the pitch the manager does and this one needs to go.

  • 221 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:42 PM

    my deep blue has popped a stick of ram

  • 222 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:42 PM

    I have got feelings, I don’t know where they are mind you but they are there some where

  • 223 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:43 PM

    Naptoon

    Yes. Milner was treated like crap by the club under FFS.

    I don’t care why KK left really, he wasn’t the right man for the job second time around and shouldn’t have been hired. Milner was demanding a new contract 12 months after signing a new deal and wanted to leave when he didn’t get it. I remember most fans thinking we got a good deal for him.

    Key issues with KK were the weird transfers in. But KK and Ashley were never going to see eye to eye on transfers. It wasn’t going to be like before and football has moved on. KK hasn’t.

  • 224 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    are you welsh from birth like

  • 225 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    211firebug666

    Don’t worry about mate it’s water off a ducks back as they say

  • 226 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    well we will have to disagree with HBA as i am just fed up with him and his selfish attitude and if mike williamson can transform into being a starter from his substitute appearance against everton then surely HBA can.

  • 227 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:47 PM

    paul dummett is another one and even i am furious to see that pardew is still not using him as the LB so even i have some things annoying with pardew.

  • 228 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:48 PM

    John Tudor

    I am why

  • 229 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    Over the last couple of game HBA seems to stop just short of taking on the back four, and looks for the pass, (usually backwards) think that AP has told him he needs to be more of a team player, but at the same time has ruined that maverick style of taking on defenders and shooting.

  • 230 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    curious as to why you follow us

  • 231 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:50 PM

    Naptoon

    If you owned your own football club, say NUFC, with other supporters, would you be happy getting lots of players on long lucrative contracts? Could you imagine having to pay niall ranger say £15,000 a week for the next five years? Would it worry you? Would you adopt a cautious and prudent accounting policy whereby you take measures to capitalise wages to a certain extent?

    Out of contract players are in the driving seat and so they want to benefit from the fact that the acquiring club doesn’t have to pay a fee. So NUFC still have substantial outlay but not necessarily in the form of signing on fees, which are what count in the tables.

    Id like to know where NUFC figure in the wages tables, which is a better measure and would show where the money is going?

  • 232 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    228firebug666

    If ben arfa has got 12 games to go to prove himself I don’t thing he will have the time to earn a new deal because he hasn’t done anything this season apart from the first few games of the season.

  • 233 Ben3arfa // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    DEKKA for DoF!!!

  • 234 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:53 PM

    fill your boots pal
    http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/wage-and-the-premier-league-scaled-table

  • 235 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    taff keeping us up would help

  • 236 croftus5678 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:55 PM

    not to nitpick but arfa has 12 assists not 19 :-)

    so 81 apps 26 times he’s either had an assist or a goal 1 in 4ish games (thought he was worse then that personally)

    with that contribution does he deserve to be in the team ? not convinced myself esp as he tends to go himself instead of passing to others but !!!! we dont have an abundence of players who will chip in with goals and assists so i dont see us with any option but to keep him unless we get a very decent winger or 2.

  • 237 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    Welsh
    Yeah that is true, but at the same time he has spent much of the season sitting on the bench and getting the last 10 minutes. I think his style of football has been stifled rather than developed, but then you could say that about all our players under Pardrew.

  • 238 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:59 PM

    firebug
    the solution to that is easy lets go back to hoofball because if we are doing a short passing game then the opposition will be able to get back into their own half easier and at this moment in time we only have 2 goal scorers in the team goufran and remy, so the opposition don’t need to use too many for marking instead they can all gang up on HBA at once, if we hoofball it then the opposition will all still be up the field only a couple will be in their own half so first shola controls it then HBA finishes it.

  • 239 santonthenewmaldini // Feb 15, 2014 at 5:59 PM

    The worrying thing is Poyet was available for free in the summer just passed he looks like he is turning Sunderland around and as we seen they were superior to us in the last 2 games , just wait till he gets money in the summer to spend on other players we could be miles behind if Pardew is still in charge

    Imagine how he could do with our team ?

  • 240 Our Toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:01 PM

    Been a while since I last posted, I see the same arguments are taking place. Since we finished 5th pards has only led us to unwanted records the guy is clueless

    Dummett is pants, can’t defend and can’t cross, I’m amazed though that pards still persists with Santon ahead of Haidara!! I find it amusing how the muppet can blame his creative players for the defeat, I think HBA and Marv have decided they don’t want to be here and seriously WHO CAN BLAME

    Pards had the same issues at west ham, De Jong looks like a donkey, Sammy who’s been our best player since Cabaye left consistently gets subbed. Playing defensive containing/counter attacking football requires us to have a team of grafters and we don’t have that, play attacking football!!

    If the rumours are true about PSG n HBA that says all you need to know about Pardew!! A CL club sees a place for him yet a club in free fall and a seriously limited coach only sees him as a bench warmer!!

  • 241 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:02 PM

    Why not, I started the season when we played arsenal we drew1-1 when Robert got sent. I’ve always had a soft spot for newcastle and of course people like sir bobby robson , even though I have never been to newcastle one day I would like to go there, I’ve had mates here going to st James park and that they would come back and say you couldn’t meet more passionate fans than the Geordies so that why I follow them

  • 242 croftus5678 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    i like the way liverpool play tbh !

    not only do they have 2 strikers that its hard to man mark one on one suarez/sturridge but they have 2 very very talented wingers who are very creative/fast and can score.

    we have 1 striker in remy for the minute who could be classed as one very hard striker to mark and luuk (if he proves himself shot wise) could be another but after that we fall apart on all other areas apart from keeper and maybe tiote one of the holding mid’s.

  • 243 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Can Ashleys apologists explain how Newcastle United has improved under old filthy rich and his third rate setup?

  • 244 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    ancient
    if people are going to make comments like this

    “Dummett is pants, can’t defend and can’t cross, I’m amazed though that pards still persists with Santon ahead of Haidara!”

    why should a manager put so much pressure on the kids ?
    now do you see why a manager might not want to play the youth much?

  • 245 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    i cant but there again i am no way an apologist

  • 246 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    Welsh

    That was when Robert got a second yellow for not retreating from a free kick, when actually Bergkamp took it quickly from 10 meters too far forward. Also, in that same game, Robert got pulled for offside while one on one with the keeper, and he was actually miles onside. Ref had a red shirt on that day!

  • 247 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    coz he is shit no two ways about it

  • 248 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    John Tudor

    Does that answer the question or not

  • 249 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    more kudos to you then but you need to vist here feel the passion first hand

  • 250 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Mag

    that has been answered so many times over the last two seasons. But here it is again (although i hate ashley and am not one of his “appologists)……

    Newcastle have not improved on the pitch. We got worse, got relegated, improved a bit. Our squad is no better than SBRs in my opinion, and we are as inconsistent as ever.

    Ok, we might have a better balance sheet but who gives a f#ck. We want to win stuff!

  • 251 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Where’s all the money going?

  • 252 Our Toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Toonking

    What’s the age difference between Dummett and Santon?

  • 253 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    I hope Ben arfa does stay he’s got tremendous talent, and when he’s on form he is exciting to watch

  • 254 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    they always have the oppos shirts on these days CHEATS

  • 255 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    @251 hiadara

  • 256 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    John Tudor

    How far do live from the stadium

  • 257 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    An ageing squad no permanent striker or playmaker a useless manager.

  • 258 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    You only sing when your financial model is a sensible one, sing when your finacial model is a sensible one…et.c

  • 259 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    You

  • 260 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    3 mile if that in the aves

  • 261 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    off chilly rd

  • 262 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    Well one day I will be up there, when I get the chance.

  • 263 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Long bloody drive though

  • 264 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    where in wales

  • 265 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    do not say gogogoch

  • 266 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    Swansea

  • 267 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    blinau festinogg

  • 268 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    To be honest I can’t even say that word

  • 269 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    been there loads a times

  • 270 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    motorway on legs

  • 271 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Tudor keep the pressure up on the.apologists.

  • 272 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:26 PM

    Have you ever been to the liberty stadium

  • 273 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    salt of the earth people much the same as us we a strange mix of celts and vikings not not the english at all

  • 274 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    SJP takes a few liberties.

  • 275 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    Brn arfa has not been the same explosive player since Nigel de jong knacked him. He has never recoberd his match fitness and he has been overweight ever since then. Thats as much to do with him as it is anyone else. There has been talk of an attitude problem wherever he has been.

  • 276 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:28 PM

    i will mag never been to a game there tho seen the stadium

  • 277 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    Ok kid!

  • 278 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    Mainemagpie
    So so so many things wrong with that post

    Marveaux, an injury prone bench warmer who in his entire career has had one, yes one season as a regular starter and only one “decent” season in his career, is a ready made replacement for a for a full international who in every definition for us was our complete midfield general
    The heart beat of the team who put in huge shifts both offensively and defensively as well as being the main point of focus for nearly all our build up play and the main force of our counter attacks as well as contributing with goals and was our number 1 set piece taker
    But yet in the handful of appearances Marv has made over the last couple of seasons he’s suddenly deemed good enough to the main man to pull the strings at the very core of the team???

  • 279 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    Mag

    no one should pressure anyone else on this blog to change opinions. Some people will agree, others will not. Internet bullying is a pretty miserable thing these days.

  • 280 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    Mag

    Shut uo

  • 281 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    Shut up

  • 282 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    @278 no problem!

  • 283 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    disgusting owner,poor manager ,adequate players=disaster
    disgusting owner,good manager,more adequate players=happy supporters
    am i right or wrong
    new owner ,top class manager, keep what ‘layers we have =success

  • 284 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    @OT251

    how many games has santon played?
    how many games has dummett played?

    fifa and football manager might have footballs fitting in right away but this is not football manager it is reality football.

    enrique was poor when he first got into the team but after a couple of years he turned excellent.

    if you are saying dummett is poor after just 7 games, how the hell can you believe HBA is quality at all when he has had lots more games than dummett, and before you say french league i will remind you that french teams don’t make it further than the group stages of champions league which is about as good as what mid table premier league teams would do and right now newcastle are sitting right in that spot.

  • 285 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    With the squad as thin as it is letting anyone go now would be a huge mistake .

    Especially with someone as talented as HBA .

  • 286 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    stop trying to bully me into changing my opinion:)

  • 287 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    :) ;) …………

  • 288 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:39 PM

    278Markaccus

    How are you this evening mate

  • 289 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:40 PM

    Beautiful goal from City . Would love to see us pass as well as them and break down teams rather than just shoot from range and create nothing .

  • 290 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:43 PM

    288 under parloo never

  • 291 wolfshead@toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:44 PM

    chelsea are missing terry big time jose should bring on ba and lump it forward ala fat sham :-)

  • 292 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    oops yes parloo can help create
    a downright mess

  • 293 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    Welsh

    not too bad cheers. You?

  • 294 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    NUFC could splash out on loans and have jam today. Freddie Shepherd and the halls did it and it was good for a time.

    Any one of you could increase your mortgage and buy flash cars and go on great holidays. But, do you do it?

    Most sensible people understand you have to spend within your means as there always comes a day of reckoning. However, some people love to urge a billionaire to spend his own money.

    You tell someone else how to spend their money and you’d expect them to tell you to f*** o**. But, for some reason that I don’t understand, that doesn’t seem to apply to a billionaire.

  • 295 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:48 PM

    Yeah I’m alright thanks

  • 296 wolfshead@toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:48 PM

    blackley

    roman abro doesnt mind spending the pound or two lol

  • 297 wolfshead@toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:48 PM

    odd*

  • 298 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:49 PM

    BPC
    that’s a lovely dream you having their.

    if i were to pick players from both teams for a starting 11 mine would be this

    _____________krul_______
    zabaleta_kompany_lescott_clichy
    silva___garcia__toure___goufran
    ________dzeko_jovetic

    and that is using citys current team against chelsea if it were the general team i would take goufran out for navas.

    the only players i would have from us at all is tiote gouffran and debuchy as subs and krul.

  • 299 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    Looks like citeh have exacted revenge on chelski.

    Fancy citeh for a cup double.

  • 300 Our Toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:53 PM

    Toonking

    Firstly FIFA / football manager? I have no time for computer games mate haha, I recently found out that football manager was a game because so many ppl on here mention it, some persist to use it and I have no idea why!!

    Dummett will never make it in the premier league, I believe the lad is 22…correct me if I’m mistaken on that though, but he is very poor compared to Santon and Haidara who are around the same age!! Enrique was coming into this league from Spain, it took him a while to settle as it does with most foreign players!!

    On HBA what attacking or creative players have flourished under Pardew? We are a defensive team that are set up to pinch a goal, what attacking players have done well in this team? Remy started well but hasn’t done well since December, Cisse destroyed of all confidence. HBA an assist or a goal in 1 out of 4 games a very good record for someone who has spent a chunk of time on the bench and for a player who plays for a defensive manager

    Dummett will be gracing the championship / Scottish football in years to come, santon will be at one of the Milan’s and HBA will be competing for CL/ titles elsewhere.

  • 301 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:53 PM

    so blackeye it comes down to you are happy cause the books are good but we are led by a yes man lacky and we could still be relegated there is no visible turning point and we stagger about like a drunk turning into a yo-yo side at best with all possible profits being shifted the fat slug “cos its his team”it never was and never will be his team all he owns is paper

  • 302 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:53 PM

    Toonking

    If Negredo and aguero were both available, they would be my personal choice as a strike partnership.

  • 303 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM

    markaccus
    they would be mine too this starting 11 is just going by the current city team but yeh i’d definately be having agureo in the starting 11.

  • 304 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM

    under ashley and parpap mine is sid little and eddie large

  • 305 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    and ronnie corbett as keeper

  • 306 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    Some people are obsessed with players like Marv, Dummett and Haidara who have done virtually nothing for this club.

    Time will tell, but some fans behave like mackems with their constant criticism of our players.

  • 307 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    Tell you what would be a canny laugh. If everyone had to pick a starting 11 from the ONLY the top 10 teams in the league (current) you are only allowed one outfeild player from each team, and ANY goalkeeper. Any formation you like.

  • 308 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    John Tudor

    Whats the You are an idiot video about

  • 309 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    ooo and ronnie barker centre back

  • 310 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:01 PM

    every little bit of humour counts it used to be thunderstorm tracking but the apologists took the pee so i put that up if it offends its meant to

  • 311 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    its like putting up the smilees hate doing it but do sometime :)

  • 312 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    It doesn’t offend just being curious

  • 313 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:05 PM

    OT

    this team has got very few attacking midfielders in the first place and well here is a few that have florished, cabaye who has been incredible CM, gouffran he has did very well this season, debuchy has shown an excellent performance attacking.
    cisse might have got worst but i have said it time and time again Ba minipulated himself to get ahead of cisse as the CF and what choice does pardew have when we don’t replace losses?

    The only others we have in midfield who are attacking is sammy obatan marvo and HBA and 3 of those were not even good to start with because
    obatan- why would united sell him
    sammy- he is a ameobi brother so is not expected to be good
    marvo- read TADS post as that reveals clearly that he is rubbish.

  • 314 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    Will remy sign permanently in the summer , I don’t think he will

  • 315 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:07 PM

    [:'(],

  • 316 toon kk // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    TDS
    How do you rate our current squad?

  • 317 Our Toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Toonking

    Since 1992/93 season up until this season French teams have performed well in CL

    Lyon – 5 times last 16 KO, 3 quarter finals and 1 semi final
    Marseille – winners once, last 16 once and 1 semi final
    PSG – 1 semi final, 1 quarter final and currently in last 16
    Monaco – 2 semi finals, 1 time runners up and 1 in last 16
    Lille – round 16 once
    Bordeaux – 1 Quarter final
    Axuerre – 1 quarter final
    Nantes – 1 semi final

  • 318 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:13 PM

    markaccus

    this would be mine

    __________krul______
    debuchy_terry___vidic__baines
    ramsey__gerrard_lennon
    _michu__agureo_lambert

  • 319 TurkishFan101 // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:13 PM

    I said this before, but Ill say this again.

    This club’s fan bases it too divided for a change to be ever possible. This blog proves it, Twitter proves it, stadium attendance proves it. How are we suppose to get the cockney idoits out if fans on here cannot agree to unite together and force this cancer out of our club?

    All I am witnessing is people defending Mike Ashley, people wanting Alan Pardew to stay and prove himself as his took us to 9th in the league… Most fans are slowly getting grip of it and trying to make a change by using actions rather than words. But most importantly, if the club is called United, and the fans are not united then this will only cause problems.

    I know some people here are the likes of yo-yo, and few others are in support of either “Mikey” or Pardew and even both. They settle for mid-table and no silverware ambition. Well, when it comes to these kind of fans the best thing would be to ignore them.

  • 320 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:14 PM

    I’d go 433

    Gk Howard eve

    Lb Baines eve
    Cb Flores swa
    Cb Vertonghen Tot
    Rb Sagna ars

    Mf lalana sou
    Mf Mata mnu
    Mf Hazard che

    Fw Suarez liv
    Fw Negredo mnc
    Fw Remy new

    Not all of them are neseserely the best in each positiin, but inly one for each team makes that impossible

  • 321 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:15 PM

    Toon KK

    Definitely good enough for top 10, was definitely good enough for top 8 before Cabaye left.

    Solid but lacking goal threats now. We haven’t been asking enough questions of the opposition recently because hardly anyone playing has real confidence in front of goal. Goofy and Remy back with LDJ offering a different quality and hopefully HBA and Cisse to offer something should change that again.

    I said 8th in the summer and I still think 8th

  • 322 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    turkey

    if you are most annoyed of pardew because of no silverware. let me tell you now

    WE HAVE WON NOTHING SINCE 1969.

    ALSO WHY THE HELL SHOULD KEVIN BE A LEGEND HE HAD OUR BEST CHANCE OF ALL BUT WHAT DID HE DO HE BLEW IT.

    LACK OF SILVER BLAME KEVIN KEEGAN FOR TOSSING SUCH A LARGE MARGIN BECAUSE HE HAD MONEY TO SPEND PARDEW DOESN’T.

  • 323 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:20 PM

    Toonking

    Amazing the differences isnt it!

    I trued to pick a side that would gel together, i.e negredo is in instead of aguero, as a big man would suit playing off suarez and remy. Hazard and lalana would do the hard work to cover for my luxury player mata

  • 324 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    Magath would have been just what the doctor ordered for our club. We need to wake quite a few of our players up especially when they’re on the pitch. Not a chance Ashley would bring someone like that in. He hasn’t got a clue and doesn’t want one. :sad:

  • 325 Our Toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    TK

    Debuchy should concentrate on defending more than attacking, he has 1 goal and maybe 1 assist this season, Phil bardsley has a better attacking record than that!! Midweek Debuchy kept showing Lennon inside onto his only foot (right) which was very disappointing he did the same to Chadli and he punished him, much like Assidi did when we played Stoke!! Debuchys first responsibility should be defending!!

    Cabaye like everyone had a stinker last year, I wonder how much the agreement he had with the regime about moving in jan window had a serious impact on his performances, here was a lad that just wanted away, much like Ba. Gouffran has been a revelation though I’ll agree with you on that!!

    I don’t rate Marv but would always play him ahead of Gosling, Sammy has been fantastic recently but confusing why he keeps getting subbed

  • 326 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    319 re remy …qpr

  • 327 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    no need to shout im only sitting here not a good way to get an opinion across

  • 328 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    mark

    szezny
    debuchy
    willo
    kompany
    shaw
    henderson
    toure
    goofy
    hazard
    suarez
    aguero

    (bit of toon bias there :) )

  • 329 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    mark
    when you do this it reveals just how good we really are i mean i even found it easier to pick an everton player than i did to pick a newcastle one overall it clear to say like we are as good as spurs but way behind arsenal city chelsea and liverpool in terms of strength behind everton in terms of passion and behind united in terms of the front men.

  • 330 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    shit didn’t read the whole question
    very good question then lol i’ll try again!!

  • 331 Our Toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    There was a lot of fans on this blog that wanted us to get rid of Cabaye in the summer because he apparently refused to play the club…..imagine where we’d be if that happened!!

    TK

    I want Pardew out because he is tactically inept, plays boring defensive football and his plan B is hoofball, he can’t get the best out of players and he consistently plays players out of position. He persists with the likes of Saylor, he keeps breaking unwanted records and is a football dinosaur!!

  • 332 NewcastleMole // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:31 PM

    Its easy to criticise the players but we don’t know what they’ve been instructed to do or what training they’ve been doing.

    I don’t think we as a club have it in ourselves to dictate a game. We go out with a cautious approach, almost to see how the opposition are going to play then we react to that.

    Our game plan for 90% of our games have been to Contain & Counter. I don’t see us taking the game to teams, unless they fail to turn up. As with all games it’s down to who really wants it more and the derby games are a testament to that.

  • 333 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    OT
    maybe you were right and ba and cabaye did only do that to leave the club but then it begs the question if cabaye and ba can do that just to walk out of the club then why can’t HBA?

    If a player is wanting to remain at newcastle then he nowhere near the quality of top 6 because their is no chance that a player who wants to progress comes to a club that sells their best player without replacements and doesn’t build a squad in summer.

    everything in football is about money and that includes managers getting sacked.

  • 334 stuart no9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    toonking –you dont seem to realise what KK done for this club, and you are slateing him coz he didnt win the league ????? shameful ,

  • 335 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    8-#

  • 336 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    GK szezny
    RB debuchy
    CB williams
    CB vertongon
    LB shaw

    CM barry
    CM carrick

    RM cazorla
    LM hazard

    ST aguero
    ST suarez

    i think thats right bit of a headfoook like!

  • 337 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:41 PM

    M:-)

  • 338 Our Toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:41 PM

    Mark

    Krul
    Coleman
    Williams
    Vertonghen
    Shaw
    Hazard
    Ramsey
    Yaya Toure
    Suarez
    Aguero
    RVP

  • 339 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:42 PM

    stuart
    all i am stating why the hell should pardew be slated for lack of silverware when he doesn’t get anywhere near as much backing as kevin keegan got when he was manager first time.

    who cares what else he has done for the club the point is we have not won a trophy since 1969 and football is now a game about spending money to win things which pardew doesn’t have the chance to do.

  • 340 Rotonda heights // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    toonking

    i don’t think many of us ever expected pardew to give us a trophy given his track record but KK gave us entertainment in spades, where we lived for thrilling, exciting football. saturday couldn’t come round quick enough and we were everyone’s second team.

  • 341 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:47 PM

    Well Man City took care of Chelsea quite nicely there. Very tidy display. Made the Chelsea CB’s look quite average. I would still love a serious cup run for us someday but I’m not seeing one in the near future sadly.

  • 342 Our Toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    Mark

    Just read instructions again….oops

    Lloris
    Debuchy
    Williams
    Vertonghen
    Shaw
    Hazard
    Ramsey
    Barkley
    Suarez
    Aguero
    RVP

  • 343 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    could get one in the johnstone paint i hear thats pardews top honour

  • 344 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    Oddly enough though toonking mate Wigan have won a cup and are still in it this year, Birmingham won a cup, Swansea have won a cup. Not exactly the giants of football there, but they all had at least one thing in common, very decent managers.

  • 345 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    Rotana
    you might want entertainment more than anything but i don’t i want a passionate club that is stable and also a trophy.

    If i just wanted to support a team to watch entertaining football their is teams like barcalona i can support.

    what i want more than anything with newcastle is the chance to win a trophy, even if it is a boring type of team, were chelsea fans shouting for dimatio’s head when chelsea won the champions league with defensive style was wigan calling for martinezs head when they played defensive. answer no.

  • 346 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    Toonking

    For me, for a toon player, it was either remy or tiote.

    if i was to swap them. Tiote would be the holding MF and mata would support the forwards.

  • 347 NewcastleMole // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    How do you solve a problem like Ben Arfa?

    He needs a manager who will nurture him and not use him.
    After the first Derby defeat he didnt get anymore decent game time until the Stoke victory. 8 Games out the team restricted to 72mins of sub action. After the Stoke victory he was out the team for another 5 Games Until his next full 90mins Against who? Sunderland again.

    In the 17 games since the first derby defeat he’s had 2 full starts. I think supporter expectation is so great that they’re expecting something from his cameo sub roles.

    He needs a decent run of games to get into a stride but there in lies the problem because Pardew seems to use him as a scapegoat for the derby defeats. True he didn’t perform well but who did in the 2 defeats?

    Ben Arfa is the master of his own downfall as the moments of magic he has produced in the past have raised expectation so high that anything less is looked on poorly.

    I Like him as a player but it is best for all parties if he moved on in the summer. The board will get some profit from him, the manager doesnt have to feel pressured into playing a player he doesnt rate just to appease the fans. And Ben Arfa will flourish at a club which can play to his strengths.

    The losers? Some of the fans who liked the lad. but under the current regime when have us fans ever been anything else for Mr Ashleys Newcastle United.

  • 348 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    For me the not spending thing just doesn’t cut it. We have been dross for years now in the cups. Unable to beat anyone. That isn’t lack of spending, it’s lack of tactical nous by Pardew and some disturbingly bad performances by many of our players.

  • 349 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    For the most recent example, we lose to Cardiff at home and Wigan manages to beat them away! We are sad sacks in the cups, no doubt about it.

  • 350 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    rotonda tbf the game has changed massively since then
    you seen wat happened to blackpool a couple of seasons ago with that kind of football
    to muck money in the game now to be that gung ho and forget the consequences
    do you think chelsea n man city would be as entertaining if they didn’t have another 10 world class players to come on to change the game?

  • 351 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:53 PM

    Evening lads and lasses, are we still trying to figure out the enigma that is HBA???

  • 352 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:53 PM

    Nothing wrong with johnstones paint trophy

  • 353 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:54 PM

    Ourtoon, Manxpie

    As we can see there are some pretty amazing teams possible, with almost completely different selections.
    This is the best daft idea i have had :D

  • 354 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:56 PM

    Sorry to harp on about it but the domestic cups really show up Pardew’s lack of tactical ability. Shocking and disturbing that he can’t get more out of the players. The coaching setup just doesn’t cut it now. And all we do is wave goodbye to coaches and not replace them.

  • 355 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:56 PM

    have i stumbled onto fifa14 blob

  • 356 stuart no9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    toonking — i dont think people are having a pop at pards because he hasnt won anything, as you say , we havnt won nowt since 69, what gets peoples back up about pardew ia that he took over 3 years ago, and 3 years down the line , after getting rid of CH, to take us to the ‘ next level’ hecan hardly produce a team good enough to compete in this league nevermind take us to the next level ,, Way way out of his depth.

  • 357 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    Toonking @321
    On KK winning title blowing it.
    I still think the reason we blew the title in 1996/97 season was us buying Tino Asprilla and finding a place in the team to accommodate him.

  • 358 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    my brother works security @ st james he heard pardews talk half time spurs it went like never mind the crowd the boss wants you to lump it long if you cant you will end up like cabeye …gone comprendeh

  • 359 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:01 PM

    mark aye great idea indeed
    mine would obviously smash all others tho

    would be a great idea for a charity match at the end of the season tho actually?

  • 360 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:01 PM

    So in the summer we need to sign 4 forwards, replace cabaye, obertan,gosling ,Ben arfa, and possibly colo and s taylor.

    God it’s going to be a long summer

  • 361 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    welsh

    Plus Debuchy and Santon…………………….and tiote if anyone comes in with enough money for the lad!!!

  • 362 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    we just need to replace the boss

  • 363 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    Cech
    Baines
    Debuchy
    Kompany
    Williams
    Paulinho
    Hazard
    Lallana
    Ozil
    Rooney
    Suarez

  • 364 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    the fat man is a fugging winker

  • 365 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    If those players leave I wonder how much money Ashley is going to spend

  • 366 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    stuart
    but don’t you see football at this day in age is all about Money with a capital M.
    the year pardew first arrives caroll is sold who comes in nobody
    the season we finish 5th in table qualify for europe what better time to bring in the players we need so what happens we only bring in anita.
    last winter ba our top goal scorer goes to chelsea only 1 striker left who do we bring in nobody as a replacement.

    this summer we knew their was lack of depth who do we bring in nobody at all just loan remy and sell a great utility player perch.

    this winter we loose cabaye who comes in nobody on a permanent just another loan.

    If you expecting any team to have sucess when we are not building a team well keep dreaming.

    as for wanting entertainment and better tactic well that simple support barcalona.
    what i support newcastle for is to see us win games and right now i never expect much with owners like this.

  • 367 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    Will Ashley even be here next season?

  • 368 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:09 PM

    stuart seriously “3 years down the line , after getting rid of CH, to take us to the ‘ next level’ hecan hardly produce a team good enough to compete in this league nevermind take us to the next level”

    so finishing 5th and now currently 9th after a shocking run of form (surprisingly when key players are missing) with no new signings and nowt spent

    he can’t compete in this league!
    sorry but have a look at how stupid that sounds?

    at the start of the season even before the window shut the majority on here said they thought we’d finish 7th or 8th!!
    we are still on for that so wat has really changed especially after we’ve sold our main player and brought FA in!

    you really should be aiming all your hate at someone else and he has nowt to do with footballing matters!

  • 369 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:09 PM

    Where’s all the cash gone?

  • 370 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    charlie

    sound like another case of bad tactics and management then, something so many on here accuse pardew of doing,

  • 371 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    This should be a very interesting summer. What does Ashley do? He has a thin squad which is definitely falling apart. We don’t have the football brains at the club to make a good job of re-building. Even if Carr has targets Ashley will only spend an extremely limited amount of money because he thinks he can hide in the weeds in mid-table. Many of the mid table clubs are much more ambitious than Ashley though so how is that going to work out? To me it looks like a real battle with our owner again through the summer and into next season. I hope the pressure on him is huge.

  • 372 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    G2

    If he doesn’t invest heavily in the summer we will be staring relegation in the face again, but I still expect to see more leaving than coming in

  • 373 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    i hope he cops the biggi

  • 374 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    Let’s hope Carr gets ignored as his scouting is as bad as Pardews coaching.

  • 375 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    Aye JB @371. So do I mate. :(

  • 376 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    @371 we could be staring at it now

  • 377 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:14 PM

    kin twasterd

  • 378 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM

    Not another relegation under filthy rich?

  • 379 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    John Tudor

    I think we will be safe simply because of the points we already have on the board and the fact that the clubs at the bottom still haven’t got their acts together, but next season is a completely different matter

  • 380 Rotonda heights // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    Manx

    That doesn’t make sense. You say it’s not Pardew’s fault (conveniently not mentioning the recent 16th place finish) and then you say blame the man who appointed him. Confused.com .So you at least admit something has to be blamed.

    I admire your optimism and faith in Pardew to be successful despite history at every different club he’s been at pointing to that never being the case.

  • 381 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    where are the optimists with the good time fairy stories

  • 382 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    hell jack how many goals in the last 5 we are depending on who ….remy hes not ours ldj least said better shola hahah

  • 383 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:20 PM

    Hiding under their beds!

  • 384 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:20 PM

    The summer should be a period of serious unrest by the supporters. We need huge pressure on the moron at the top. If it looks like a big sale of players then he surely is planning to sell up. If he lets one or two leave and brings in one or two we’ll know he intends to stick it to us for at least a few more seasons. I have no faith he will allow us to strengthen significantly.

  • 385 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    John Tudor

    We need 4 points and we will be safe with 41 points, as bad as we are now I still think we will manage that between now and the end of the season

  • 386 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    mark
    that idea of yours was a good one.

  • 387 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    can anyone answer this the current accounts that we can see are a season behind ?
    so last seasons will be announced in a couple of months?

    so if thats right we should see a healthy profit since we made a small one last time
    and now after spending nothing and making 20 mill plus the extra 60-70 mill in tv money
    we really should have unbelievable profits in football terms!
    but we won’t see that till next years accounts!!??

  • 388 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    not pissing on the parade but where are the goals coming from you need them to win games remy will get injured and miss a few games parcrap will panic soon ashley nob ead will panic you watch

  • 389 Rotonda heights // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    Manx

    I would say Liverpool, arsenal, especially city and everton all play fantastic attacking football

  • 390 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    cloth ead went down with what 42pts

  • 391 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:23 PM

    Ashley won’t sell he’s making too much money for a pittance of outlay.

  • 392 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:23 PM

    manxpie

    the club/Ashley stands to pick up around 60+ million by the end of the season so the accounts will be very, very healthy, still doesn’t mean that Ashley will cough up anything

  • 393 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:24 PM

    And thats 60 million on top of what we normally bring in

  • 394 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:24 PM

    and the optimists talk of balanced books balanced in the favour of slug heed

  • 395 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    When this moron sells up it will be one of the best days I’ve had in a long time. Will we ever see him at St. James Park again?

  • 396 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    we should be singing were screwed and we know we are

  • 397 stuart no9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    manx – i have no hate towards pardew – just pity,

    toonking, you say tou support newcastle to see us win games ! —- apart from the shocking defeats to teams we really should have won against in the league, if we had a better manager over the last 3 years we may – no not may , would have played a lot more games in the FA cup, we dont get the chance to see our team win in the cup as we go out before it gets going, this year verus cardiff in the cup , he drops our goal scorer – i dont know why , alan shearer dosnt know why , nobody seems to know why , do you ???? if he had played him we would have had a lot more chances for you to see your team win qa few more games and probably in with a shout of wembley. all for the sake of a poor decision .

  • 398 Dennis Twice // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    Attack Toon attack attack!

  • 399 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    Cooking the books is popular amongst the filthy rich and MPs.

  • 400 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:27 PM

    rotanda
    let me tell you this mate
    capello has a great record with his clubs he managed and won lots.
    he was appointed manager of england and we were awful.

    sven had a great record as manager of his former club yet when he was the premier league manager he was poor.

  • 401 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    rotonda wat doesn’t make sense?
    the fact that he said pardew can’t put a team together to compete in this league??

    yeah ya right that doesn’t make sense!
    as i pointed out the facts show that he has!

    and i’m blaming the man who appointed him because he has constantly ruined any progress we have made CONSTANTLY!!

    so i seriously can’t see how you are confused by that rotonda??

  • 402 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    svepello for manager

  • 403 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:29 PM

    and ner the twain shall meet

  • 404 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    Toonking @ 365

    What about the players we have brought in? Do they not deserve a mention? Not even the one we brought in for £4M and sold for over £20M when he wanted to be off.

    Surely you’re not saying your complaint is in any way a fair reflection of the club’s purchases?

  • 405 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    403, what has Ashley achieved with Pardew?

  • 406 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:34 PM

    jack aye but surely we picked up alot last season also to add to this so for me it all adds up to a sale (hopefully)

    maybe thats wat ash n lamearse were celebrating :)

  • 407 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:34 PM

    Our cup performances under Pardew are inexcusable. If he can’t motivate the players to perform better than that he should be gone. He is poor but we are stuck with him because we have an even poorer owner. A man with no conscience, no ambition for the club, and no future with us.

  • 408 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:35 PM

    so blackley what exactly is your stance a staunch ashley pardew supporter or what

  • 409 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    I would love him to turn up and see what reception he gets. But he’s a coward on top of everything else. :evil:

  • 410 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    403 where’s the readies going?

  • 411 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:37 PM

    manx

    i have said for some time that i think he will sell this summer, but in mean time Paredew should be doing far better with the amount of internationals he is able to call on

  • 412 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:37 PM

    rotonda sorry everton don’t play fantastic attacking footy
    and the other teams back there managers with open cheque books and have massive squads!

  • 413 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:37 PM

    and manx as you point out the last win of note was 69 in the past last season was in the past what counts to us is the now and the future

  • 414 Dennis Twice // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Attack Toon attack attack II

  • 415 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Ashley should be challenged by the local newspapers to show up for our remaining home games. He should have to deal with it or be humiliated by the press.

  • 416 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:39 PM

    for sale one drunken pub team led by a knacker

  • 417 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:39 PM

    Things will look much better, if I win the Lottery tonight.

    Fingers crossed.

  • 418 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:40 PM

    The city should also be getting involved again as much as possible. Any and all efforts to put pressure on Mike the Moron should be welcomed.

  • 419 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:40 PM

    stuart

    it doesn’t make any difference who the manager is because quite simply the FA cup and league cup are disrespected by all managers.

    maybe pardew did get us knocked out of the FA right away but didn’t you follow our great european run last year and unless we win the trophy what differance does getting knocked out the 3rd round make to a semi final.

    these so called shocking results are what you will get, this is the barclays premier league remember not la liga or the SPL. city were beat by cardiff they drew against norwich manchester united loose to stoke.

    if ashley had backed the manager rather sell the best player nearly every window then we would not have this problem.

  • 420 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    Fat Mike doesn’t do interviews incase someone asks where the money’s going!

  • 421 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    GeordieTwo

    To answer your question, Mikey will sell up when someone is willing to make him a reasonable offer.

    That’s why boycotts won’t achieve anything. There is no end game. The only place for a boycott is if it helps push a long drawn out deal over the line.

    Of course, it could be the case that the fans don’t like the new prospective owner, and they urge Mikey not to sell. Well all the fans except Ciaran who would rather have anyone as owner than Mikey, even if it meant we were in league 1. Stranger things have happened.

  • 422 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:42 PM

    Aye the summer will be fantastic.

    We need about 6 top players and we’ll probably end up with none.

    Can’t wait

  • 423 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:43 PM

    correction
    if ashley had sacked the manager rather sell the best player nearly every window then we would not have this problem.

  • 424 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    Many of our so-called internationals aren’t playing well enough to be called up. Colo is probably finished. Santon looks horrific, and even Krul must be on shaky ground. Playing for us must be a nightmare now for international quality players. They get Pardewed once they come and then seem to lose heart. I haven’t even mentioned Ben Arfa yet. It’s pathetic.

  • 425 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    i hope so jack but i couldn’t care if they are internationals or not if they aren’t performing it can’t all be down to pardew
    i acknowledge wat he’s done here but thats it and get sick of constant blame for poor performances on him

    when the players are well over hyped imo
    we’ve just lost our most influential “international”

    this ain’t a great squad because it ain’t complete and as soon as we lose tiote collo cabeye n remy it looks weak as fooook
    to me that screams of a bad squad

  • 426 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    420 so where do think mikeys hiding the dosh?

  • 427 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:45 PM

    and blackeye aint biting so i would take it as he is a ashley man

  • 428 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    blackley

    that is what you call a selling club.
    what i expect when i see the sale of a player is the replacement right away bale was sold for £90mil and spurs spent the money rightaway, we on the other hand are still waiting for the ba replacement when he was sold last season.

  • 429 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    in his kecks

  • 430 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    Clearly a decent offer will be required B&B. Mike is only a moron at football. But he is headed into a real problem this summer. If he weakens the team significantly and we slip back down toward the relegation zone what will the team be worth. The man is a football idiot who clearly doesn’t get it. The mistakes are repeated over and over again.

  • 431 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:47 PM

    like a pole dancer

  • 432 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:47 PM

    Fat mike must be worried there’s no decent players left to sell for big dosh!

  • 433 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    GeordieTwo

    Do you know anyone who is seriously interested in buying a premier league football club? Certainly, you don’t hear anything reported about groups of billionaires and consortia vying with each other for ownership of our club.

    Is that because there’s no money to be made? Is it more hassle than it’s worth, particularly if you fail to meet the fans’ expectations? I’m surprised because it’s not like owners of NUFC get a lot of abuse when they try to run the business prudently.

  • 434 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    hell try to flog his log
    as per no takers

  • 435 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    There are no more weeds to hide in for Mike the Moron. We know all his tricks now. This summer should see enormous negative publicity leading toward the new season. He has no chance of recovery now. Even his opportunity for big profits is in danger with his amazingly poor stewardship of the club.

  • 436 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    manx

    Agree that Pardew has been undermined time and time again, but there are major issues I have with that and the man himself.

    Firstly, if Ashley constantly screws him over then either come out and say something publicly to revert all the fan pressure back to the true source or simply walk, as thats what 90% of managers would have done under Ashley.

    Do I have any sympathy with the man???

    No, not one bit as he is the man that continues to plays players that are out of form, he is the man that drops players to bring back the likes of Saylor and Jonas when he was here, he is the man that has openly said that he will never drop Sissokho etc etc etc

    Basically Ashley is the main issue at the club, of that there is no doubt but Pardew is his own worst enemy and sets himself up for a fall at every opportunity.

    He always has been and always will be a manager of very limited ability but is the perfect man for Ashley

  • 437 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    I don’t know any billionaires B&B. I don’t personally know anyone who could afford to buy the club. So I can’t comment on how many possible buyers there are out there and what their motivations might be. But I do see clubs get bought, some by good owners, some by bad. Look what happened to us. But I know a bad owner when I see one and I want better things for our club, don’t you?

  • 438 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    There’s not too many richer than Ashley that would buy him out, moneys no object to Ashley just he doesn’t want to spend it on Newcastle United.

  • 439 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    geordietwo most people on here were happy with the team we put out against cardiff
    and if we’d won not 1 complaint about the selection would have been made but thats wat a cup comp brings its a knockout
    but since we lost there was all sorts of complaints about the selection strange that isn’t it lol?

  • 440 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    bad business decision, failed. screw them for what i can the foff into scottish footy, rangers beware

  • 441 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    Anybody know what time the Tyson Fury fight is starting at ?

  • 442 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    Toonking

    We’ve got Remy to replace Ba for this season. Who knows who we’ll have next season? I can’t imagine us going into any season without at least two decent strikers.

    I get you’re upset that Cabaye went and NUFC banked the money. Ideally, we would have got two or three good players in with that money. I’m sure you’re able to wait.

    I do think that people have short memories and tend to remember a good player’s best bits after they’ve gone. He’s only been gone five minutes and one or two seem ready to canonise him.

  • 443 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    Fat mike doesn’t even bother to attend matches now that’s how interested he is.

  • 444 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    as peeps said before he like h. hughes liable for anything paranoid scizo capable of anything so destroying us is always possible optomists smoke that

  • 445 stuart no9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    toonking . i agree with you entirely regarding ashley. It is down to him who he sells at what profit . It isnt all down to 1 guy , its an accumulation of bad leadership , bad management and in my opinion , poor coaching.

  • 446 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:02 PM

    civil wars have started for less
    fat slimey twasted

  • 447 jasper // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:03 PM

    Sod it I get bored with “where has the money gone” nonsense.
    NUFC is a Ltd company. They have to file accounts and hiding money is AGAINST THE LAW. If Ashley wants to take money from NUFC he has to either repay his own loan (which must appear in the accounts) or pay himself a dividend (which he hasn’t to date, although SJH and FS did in spades).
    People may not like the way the club rolls up the transfer cost, agents fees and future wages into one sum. Undoubtedly this makes their argument and makes comparison to other clubs difficult but in business terms it is quite logical. Each time a player is signed and given a contract the club is committed to the expenditure. The capital vs revenue distinction is only relevant to the accounting for the write down of the initial capital cost over the life time of the contract (£10m player on five yr contract written down £2m per year).
    The WHOLE exercise has to be paid for eventually, is a commitment and a risk, the whole lot can go tits up. As we should know and MA has discovered.
    £9.7m + £50k pw x 5yrs = £23m
    Yes, in a word Xisco.

    So let’s have less nonsense about pocketing money.

    Mild you if we continue not to sign anyone there will be a lot in the NUFC coffers come year end. But it won’t have “gone”, it will still be in NUFCs piggy bank, and unspent unless MA chooses to take his loan back.

    After all there is plenty of other things to complain about quite legitimately, terrible management appointments and performance for a start. But quibbles about accountancy by those who wouldn’t know a balance sheet if they tripped over one are a bore…..

  • 448 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:03 PM

    It’s not just the 1 loss manxpie mate. We have been dross in the domestic cups ever since Pardew came to us. Loss after loss against lower division clubs and poor Prem teams as well. And Pardew has the plums to continue talking about winning a cup during his tenure! It’s bloody hilarious. He must think he’s Martinez, or Laudrup or something. :)

  • 449 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:04 PM

    Remember when buckle used to sit in the ground with a Newcastle United strip on the patronising oaf.

  • 450 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    where has the money gone you cant prove didly squat

  • 451 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    where s the money gone to greggs for pies and pasties

  • 452 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    446, you enjoy a wind up! Where’s all the dosh?

  • 453 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:07 PM

    martidrup for manager

  • 454 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:07 PM

    jack but would you really do the same if you were there?

    so the choices are get sacked or walk?

    sorry but they aren’t great options are they?

    and as for the players as i said wat options after YOUR 1st team have you got?
    not many i bet?
    and last season i think he certainly went for experience in the end

    the fact that every forward step we make gets dragged back 2,3,4,5 steps back by ashley annoys me more then owt else
    plus pardew will not be replaced by a better manager full stop!
    o’leary is in the wings i’d bet

  • 455 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    sod it
    accountancyease for ill put it there im sure they wont find it

  • 456 GeordieTwo // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    Well off to a funeral of a close friend now mates. The discussion will continue I’m sure.

  • 457 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    Jasper we love the smell cooked books!

  • 458 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:12 PM

    i heard hoddle nailed on no pun intended and David Icke first team coach

  • 459 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:13 PM

    and the wake commiserations pal

  • 460 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:13 PM

    Jack Butler

    Yeah Pardew is constantly undermined. When he contrived to take a good squad and flirt with relegation, I recall Mikey bailing him out big time with five signings.

    Poor Pardew. The only manager whose boss sells his top players; from Carroll to Ba and now Cabaye. How can he manage without a single replacement?

    What we need is a manager who can lose three top players in the space of three seasons, have no top names coming in (cos lets face it Remy, de Jong, Gouffran, Mbiwa are shit), and not make excuses. Oh shit, the dog’s chewed my homework!

  • 461 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    a manager with cahunas

  • 462 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:15 PM

    The famous five that cost zero after the sales of Carroll and ba Nolan Barton best.

  • 463 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    im sure ashley wont mind blackeye

  • 464 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:17 PM

    is homework allowed at an approved school?

  • 465 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:17 PM

    Jasper…I wouldn’t have thought Ashley would do anything illegal as far as accounts are concerned, however there are perfectly legal loop holes and creative accounting is a real thing that I imagine happens on a daily basis across the UK.

    There is a line and I would think Ashley hasn’t or wont cross it. Profit is great, prison time is not.

    Me saying it is possible doesn’t mean that he is, truth is, neither you nor I know with any certainty. Just like you find it frustrating for people to say he has, for you to say it would be illegal so therefore he hasn’t is naive imo.

    It does seem bizarre that, without going in to too much detail, seeing as we make a profit now (only a small one, but 2 years in a row now, right?) and seem to make money on transfers rather than losses, the debt at the club hasn’t reduced and only in September Pardew was telling us that if we had got someone in we’d have been in the red.

    I honestly feel that the clubs “debt” to Ashley is kept in place and used to justify a seriously backward model for running a football club.

  • 466 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:17 PM

    manx

    It’s not as if the man is on the bread line, struggling to put feed his family or pay the mortgage is it and if he does walk how long would be out of work for??? not that long as I’m sure someone would take him on.

    As for the players, well both Dummett and Haidara have put in far better shifts when called upon compared to the very poor Santon, Mapou didn’t deserve to lose his place but still finds himself behind a questionable Saylor. Anita was dropped as soon as he was able to be replaced even though he was arguably our best player and all thats after he altered a winning formation that took us to 5th place all in the cause of placating Ba.

    In all the time he has been here I can only recall one occasion that he has openly held his hand up and taken the blame for a poor result and that was this seasons debacle against Swansea.

    As I said he is a manager who is very, very limited and when the pressure is on he’s unable to turn things around

  • 467 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:18 PM

    belfast i thought it was chisora tonight?

  • 468 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:19 PM

    fcuk me the fence
    has fell over

  • 469 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:21 PM

    black
    but remy is only on loan and we know now he is not going to remain with us and now he has made it even worse because this summer we could have no strikers at all because shola is going cisse seems unhappy remy won’t be staying and dejong is unknown.
    all the chaos that we will see this summer could have been avoided had ashley spent money every window.

  • 470 clinath@ed // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:22 PM

    Re. Where is the money?
    I asked this question a while back and didn’t get answer, I’m no accountant so if I’m talking b’lox please say so….
    ..if the money from sales and sky is sitting in the club unspent, does the value of the club increase? If so, should Mr A sell the club at its ‘inflated’ value does he not pocket said money?

  • 471 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:24 PM

    no its chorizo pizza tonite

  • 472 stuart no9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM

    blackley—- i dont know what the fans expectations are . What are they ?????

  • 473 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM

    @469 its syphoned away into an offshore blackhole account for ashleys truss fund

  • 474 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:27 PM

    @469 who knows the correct answer only ashley and his co conspirators

  • 475 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:28 PM

    stuart
    building a squad through management and coaching is history.
    the best managers in football now want to get money.

    people on here are all saying that they want laudrup well swansea this season were in no worst shape than what newcastle were last season so he is rubbish at managing without money to spend and he will not be allowed money to spend that’s for sure.
    as for wanting a new manager just for entertainment it’s like i always say i will just watch barclona.

  • 476 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:28 PM

    Ashley must be howling at all the clowns that buy into his pathetic skint billionaire tales.

  • 477 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:29 PM

    Blackley…A nice selection of points there.

    “Yeah Pardew is constantly undermined. When he contrived to take a good squad and flirt with relegation, I recall Mikey bailing him out big time with five signings.”

    It was the same team and manager that got us 5th. The main difference was EL fixtures and injuries. Pardew was as useless or as good as he was the season before. By the time Mikey acted it was too late. We were already in a mess by then, due to Ashleys (or whoever he chose to make said decision) decision that we could gamble and wait until January.

    Then the useless Pardew had to integrate almost half of a starting team (5 players), who had never played in the league and didn’t speak English. Brilliant backing.

    “Poor Pardew. The only manager whose boss sells his top players; from Carroll to Ba and now Cabaye. How can he manage without a single replacement?”

    Carroll Sold – We had Best, Shola and Lovenkrands to finish the season with. Tbh, I can get my head past this one, it was silly money and there wasn’t that much time to bring in a replacement nor much to play for that season.

    Ba – Had been our top scorer the season before and was the teams current top scorer when he was sold. They knew he was going but failed to get in an adequate replacement in time. We struggled for goals big time.

    Cabaye – Not even going to waste my breath. He was fundamental to our team, we had time, we had money, yet he wasn’t replaced.

    I do believe a better manager could and would do better than Pardew under the same circumstances, but that is only one part of the argument. Ashley knows what he has in Pardew, yet seems hell bent on making a limited managers job that bit harder.

    “What we need is a manager who can lose three top players in the space of three seasons, have no top names coming in (cos lets face it Remy, de Jong, Gouffran, Mbiwa are shit), and not make excuses. Oh shit, the dog’s chewed my homework!”

    I agree. Why doesn’t Mikey go and get us one then? Is it because he doesn’t want to pay off the lowest paid manager in the league, albeit on the longest contact in the league?

    Is it because he truly is trying to give Pardew another chance as he feels he was hung out to dry the summer before last?

    Or is it due to the fact that Pardew will be his mouthpiece and do as Ashley wants?

    By the way, I’m still waiting to hear back from you on yesterdays postings. I understand you had battery problems and weren’t running for the hills like Ciaran.

  • 478 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:29 PM

    ive never said so wrong not all

  • 479 toonking // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:29 PM

    i’m off now so good bye all.

  • 480 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:30 PM

    jack it doesn’t matter if he’s skint or not
    he’s managing newcastle as i said would you do the same in the situation he’s in?

    and you speak as tho its just as easy as that to drop a player?
    if so how would you keep that dropped player not only motivated but happy plus make him work harder
    also we’ve seen on here for years a younger player get a game and then get dogs abuse for not hitting it off straight away most recently sammi!!

    seriously managing a squad of players ain’t as easy as just dropping players and then all is okay

    and i can’t think of any managers that has said its his own fault on many occasions! can you?

    but again pardew gets the full blame for things that every manager does lol

  • 481 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:30 PM

    Jasper

    Careful. That was so like my script Ciaran will have us a doppelgangers.

    According to Ciaran, Mikey’s lack of due diligence resulted in the £100m loan that the club owes. He criticises Mikey for discovering the hidden debt and then replacing it all with an interest free loan.

    He criticises Mikey for not investing for success, whilst blaming him for increasing the debt by £40M to get us into the Premiership.

    When I politely point his fundamental lack of understanding and contradiction, I get “pipe down little man” and “You’re a disgusting little individual and I will not be talking to you again”. Don’t direct your comments at him because you’ll be accused of baiting him.

  • 482 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:31 PM

    Cabaye must have balanced the cook book until the summer when the tv revenue lands in his bank account.

  • 483 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:31 PM

    please no more blanket accusations tk gn

  • 484 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:33 PM

    at 480 a loan that never recedes in line with income and expenditure all in many eyes stinking of robbery

  • 485 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:34 PM

    Tyson fury is on at 10 oclock Mag.

    I actually thought Fury was fighting Chisora lol

    He’s fighting somebody Joey Abbel.

    Ah well, still something to watch with no match of the day on this week.

  • 486 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:35 PM

    Is Jasper Jespers long lost brother ?

  • 487 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:35 PM

    Toonking

    You make it sound as if we can’t or won’t get anyone in before the new season. I note Ed always sound so pessimistic, it must be spreading.

    I’ve always envied other clubs making astute loan signings. The last thing we want is to spend £10M on De Jong and find he’s no better than we’ve already got. He has a good few games to show us what he’s about. There are plenty of other players to chose from.

  • 488 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    Fury should have been fighting fatty.

  • 489 toon22 // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    @Blackey

    The brownest nose on the blog.

    We will win the league next year with all this financial stability we apparently dont have since we owe the fat man hundreds of millions of pounds while he exploits us with his horrid free adverts we arnt benifiting from.

  • 490 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    JT…I guess that was a reference to me?

    As far as Ashley is concerned, the fence went over a while ago.

    Pardew can be upgraded anytime as far as I am concerned, I neither hate or love the guy as a manager. For me, he is simply a symptom of the problem rather than the actual problem, as proved by the fact he’s still managing the team.

  • 491 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    the homework your dog has savaged must have been maths as you must just make up numbers to suit yourself

  • 492 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:38 PM

    belfast chisoras fighting too heres a link if ya want that one instead

    http://neolive.net/206729/1/Watch-Boxing–Dereck-Chisora-vs-Kevin-Johnson-/

  • 493 toon22 // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:38 PM

    The only club in prem history not to sign a player on a permanent basis between 2 transfer windows ever,loan signings dont suit anyone else but the greedy fat c^&t.

    To Blame Joke isto ignoe the fat man brought him in even though he got us religated and almost died last time.

  • 494 clinath@ed // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    Obviously not.

  • 495 marcotoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    I think that it should be one of the club’s top priorities over the summer to keep Hatem as although he does often frustrate us he is a genuine match winner.
    I still remember his very first appearance against Everton in 2010 where he scored an absolute screamer and the goal he scored against Bolton at home in April 2012, I was right behind it and it remains the best goal I have ever witnessed.
    These may just simply be my personal memories but I think that both parties have a lot to gain with Hatem remaining at Newcastle, I think he plays in a style that suits Newcastle and keeping him will reduce our reputation as a selling club.
    KTF

  • 496 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    Blackley…We’ve already discussed Ciarans reasons behind suspecting doppelgangers, yet you continue to use it to try and ridicule him.

    No I don’t see why he thinks your baiting him at all either.

    As things stand Blackley, you’ve been sussed. Might want to tweak the approach a bit if we’re not understanding your actual intentions.

  • 497 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    Got one manxpie thanks.

    Do you know who’s on first ?

  • 498 toon22 // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    Hatems a show pony,he wont ever be any good for us.Its a shame but i think the good games he has had for us dont add up to the amount of fingers i have.

  • 499 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:42 PM

    im glad you have seen the light a few more could benefit from getting off fences and lifting heads from the sand
    the evil empire must be dislodged from our football club post haste
    im not convinced we will stay up this season and it pains me
    but if we go down then down again the cancer will leave im prepared for that

  • 500 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:42 PM

    manxpie

    Answer your own question in reverse.

    How do you think a player will react after playing well and then being dropped as thats what he has done time and time again and then for that player that has been dropped to see his replacement having mare after mare and still keeping his place is worse than anything.

    Would I do the same as Pardew if I were in his situation?

    Probably not but then again I bleed black and white, would Martinez, Rodgers etc etc etc simply tow the party line like Pardew does, I doubt that very, very much.

    As for Pardew being blamed for things every other manager does.

    Well, when other managers do it and get it wrong they are also get slammed just like Pardew does, so please do not think that the reaction to him is unique to fans of the this club as it is not. If the great Sir Alex Ferguson can get slaughtered by the Man Utd fans, which he was at times, after everything he did for them and everything he won for them then I’m sure that Pardew can face the same criticism when it is more than justified

  • 501 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:43 PM

    Seems that split personality disorder has spead

  • 502 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:43 PM

    Clinath…My basic understanding would be, using made up figures for ease:

    Club stand alone value say £100m
    Club bank balance at say £ 50m
    Club debts to whoever say £ 70m

    Would mean a market value of £80m.

    Then you’d want to consider profit.

    Once again folks, figures used are purely theoretical.

  • 503 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:44 PM

    Fatty is loaded and he is taking the mickey sending gormless pardew out to swear fattys skint.

  • 504 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:44 PM

    It’s not Ciaran anymore Ibiza.

    It’s Richard from Crystal maze

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=fDr-7AR1yyhMiM&tbnid=hUZg9LuueowlkM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.virginmedia.com%2Ftvradio%2Fcult-tv%2Ftrivia%2Fquizshow-hosts-where-are-they-now.php%3Fssid%3D13&ei=qt__UvivN8rK0QWhw4GgDw&bvm=bv.61535280,d.ZGU&psig=AFQjCNFwImnzRpU4uF8pTHLuu5qiuQzabw&ust=1392587047619467

  • 505 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:44 PM

    nah not sure mate prob the same time unless its the same channel
    i thought fury was with channel 5 tho?
    did you see his way in lol?

  • 506 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:45 PM

    way = weigh

  • 507 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:47 PM

    Think he moved to Box Nation mate.

    Didn’t see the weigh in. I hope he gets knocked out, he’s a big mouthed kernt. lol

  • 508 clinath@ed // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:47 PM

    So Ibiza, thanks btw, if the money stays in NUFC account, mr A would pocket the money should he sell the club anytime soon?

  • 509 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:48 PM

    clinath nah mate that extra profit will pay off his debt which he’s entitled too
    so then the club can be sold for wat its worth without any debt and proved to be profit making

  • 510 toon22 // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:48 PM

    The Fat Man is the countrys 15th richest person,he obviously dont give a shit about us any further than makin a profit.

    As sad as it sounds i hope we get religated twice so long as he f^u(ks o*f

  • 511 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:49 PM

    and thats from me who struggles to fill out his tax return!
    so don’t take that as gospel lol

  • 512 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:50 PM

    JT…I will occasionally jump back on my fence…not everything can be an absolute nor do I think arguing every point is beneficial.

    However, surely enough is enough and something has to be done?

  • 513 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:53 PM

    the way i see it for you is you would need to construct a brick wall for you to sit on
    highly unlikely now

  • 514 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:53 PM

    and do you think we are safe yet

  • 515 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:54 PM

    Yo splinter, hop back up on zat fence of yours

  • 516 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:54 PM

    Clinath…Either way, it washes it’s face.

    He can chose to use the money to reduce the debt and therefore lower any asking price or can utlilse the bank balance as an asset and expect any purchaser to include it in their valuation.

    What I will say is that by keeping a large debt in place, expectations as far as finances go are easier to manage.

    However, at the end of the day, something is only worth what they’re willing to pay or what someone is willing to sell for.

    Belfast…Saw you mention that the other day. I did even praise your efforts and think I may have even said “I love it!” Bit disappointed you missed it, I doubt it’ll happen again anytime soon ;)

  • 517 clinath@ed // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    Sorry to labour this Manxpie, but it goes towards paying off his loan, then the and result is the same….HE gets the money!

  • 518 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    i do not

  • 519 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:56 PM

    belfast he weighed in fully (sponsored) clothed and agree he needs a good knockout to bring him down a few pegs
    i hope chisora goes the full way tho at least he has fought twelve rounds with 1 of the best

  • 520 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:57 PM

    JT…Oh yeah, forgot to comment on whether we’re safe. Obviously not guaranteed, but I do think it would be the most spectacular of falls for us to be relegated this season. Although, if you had to pick one PL club to do that, my money would be on Newcastle United!

    Bottom line is, there are 11 teams below us, ranging from 9 to 17 points behind us with 36 points left to play for. Seems unlikely that 8 of those 11 teams will over take us at this stage.

  • 521 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    Ah damm. I always miss the praising posts for some reason.

    Could you go and hoke it out and copy and paste it for me ?

    Kind Regards.
    xxx

  • 522 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    Belfast…As if! It pained me enough to type it let alone spend time to go find it again.

  • 523 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    Ibiza

    I have to disagree on your assessment. In an ideal world where players didn’t want to leave and replacement players can be sourced in a day or two, I would have some sympathy. Ba and Cabaye wanted to leave. It seems we genuinely wanted to hold onto them. But every player has a price, and the buying club only ever decides to bid the full asking price at the last moment.

    But the clue is in the name. Manager. A football manager has to manage the vagaries of football. My point is that it’s three players over three seasons and we’ve had some very good incomings (whether you believe they were forced or not).

    I don’t know why Mikey doesn’t go and get us a top manager. He must think that Pardew is very capable and deserves a decent chance; three years at least. A major mistake in my opinion.

    I thought I had answered your questions yesterday before my battery died. Being on my smart phone, I couldn’t adequately convey what I wanted to. I was making a serious point when I said Ciaran would have to be chairman. You said this was unfair and I wanted to respond.

    Unfortunately, the lad comes across as if he’s always right and he is rude and condescending. My point was extremely mild compared to the abuse and insults that Ciaran undeservedly gives out to people on here. If you’re his mate you should tell him he’s doing himself and the blog no favours with such disrespect and hubris.

  • 524 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:01 PM

    there has also been one team well up the table that takes a horrendous tumble nearly every season we did when we went the last time and we cannot say we are to good to go down parlump went with 42 pts what if what if

  • 525 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:01 PM

    yeah he gets the money but he put his money into the club in the 1st place instead of the banks if ya get wat i mean
    but he takes that loan back then say he asks for 200 mill for the club he’d make 50mill or so profit i hope that happens anyways lol

  • 526 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:04 PM

    hold on ill just get on my thicko phone to answer that no more hubris and condescending as you have been

  • 527 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:06 PM

    He’s a tube Manxpie

    I was hoping Haye would have knocked the shit outa him.

  • 528 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    This is my only thought on Ashley.

    There are 2 options.

    1) He is failing to run the club properly so needs money from signings to keep the club afloat.

    2) The club is coping fine yet the transfer money is simply pocketed. Not only incoming money but the budget which is simply never used.

  • 529 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    didn’t sjh stop a very rich buyer because he wanted to actually do due dilligence?
    can’t believe people papered over that 1 lol!!

  • 530 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    Blackley…I didn’t see a response and was looking for one. I think you did pop back on to give Ciaran another pop though.

    I have in the past given Ciaran the same advice i’m giving you, the way in which your making your point loses any good argument you may have. Ciaran can be fiery and at times rude, as can most on here. I do feel at this stage though he’s fighting a losing battle as he’s too much of an easy target and his reputation truly precedes him on this blog.

    You mention that he comes across as he thinks he’s 100% right again. I asked you yesterday what percentage of being right you thought you portrayed on this blog? I think that is a laughable thing to bring up as most of what people post they believe to be true or it would be formatted as a question.

    I’ve tried to give you some background on Ciaran before, but it doesn’t seem to want to register with you. He didn’t start anti Ashley, it was quite the reverse.

    Instead of simply knocking the guy as a glory chasing plastic fan with no clue, why don’t you ask yourself how he got to the point where he wants Ashley out?

    In case I haven’t made myself clear, when you aim a post at Ciaran there appears to be no attempt to understand or reason (debate), just to try and make him and his aims look silly.

    I suppose that would be your agenda?

  • 531 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:11 PM

    hallalujah

  • 532 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    amen to that and goodnite

  • 533 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:14 PM

    JT…I agree, it could happen. Still, I don’t believe we will and we should never say never.

    We shall see!

  • 534 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:14 PM

    well we ain’t got anyone left belfast so i hope he does best of a bad bunch lol
    but tbf did you see his last fight he was crying his eyes out on his walk in because his old trainer died and still fought and won he’s our best chance of next world heavy weight
    fury fights with his hands round his knees

  • 535 jasper // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:14 PM

    Ibiza,
    I haven’t gone back to the analysis by Swissrambler lately rand it is two years out if date. Nevertheless when compared to our rivals to break into CL places we have much lower stadium income – MA has his faults but ticket prices are lower here than mist, or at least he knows the market won’t bear it) .
    Our sponsorship and external commercials are also lower. So the income doesn’t compete well.
    If we don’t make signings then I have no doubt that they will declare a big profit this year.
    I would have no doubt that MAs accountants are likely to be moving as much of his profits into other juristictions as they can. For instance by trading between his companies to export profits to overseas subsidiaries, as do many international companies.
    But the point is that a football club is not the sort of vehicle where this is possible. Even if they pay over the odds for the shirts it wouldn’t move much and would stand out like a sore thumb.
    I am quite convinced that he isn’t exporting anything from NUFC. However neither is he necessarily prepared to spend the money or risk any more, certainly not to the extent that many supporters would like.
    Thank you for your polite response, rather better than the abusive tripe that others serve up. A discussion of varied views is what a blog should be about.
    No wonder the likes of Torq give it a wide berth these says.

  • 536 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:17 PM

    he does export, cabeye to psg thats exporting is it not

  • 537 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:20 PM

    All this talk of Ashley leaving, he’s not leaving and do you know why because nobody will match his offer for the club.

  • 538 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:21 PM

    Jasper…This blog has a sad history or people not being able to deal with each other in a courteous manner. It all gets rather silly and that’s coming from an extremely silly person :)

    I really should assess the clubs accounts myself, to be better positioned to comment as it’s really only guess work.

    I suppose I work of the idea that everything the club does seems to be covered in secrecy and lies.

    One thing I have yet to get my head around is the way we include the players wages within how much we’ve spent on transfers. I can see the sense in it, it is quite logical, even if other clubs don’t do it that way. My issue is, say we sell a players for £20m, we would then need to include their remaining wages in that transfer pot. Secondly, shouldn’t there then be an adjustment to our yearly running costs, which typically is where wages are shown?

    Without too much digging, it comes across as trying to apply the same cost twice?!? But I could be wrong.

    I just can’t shake the thought that if everything was above board and his overall intentions were good, why they wouldn’t make a song and dance about it and say, look, here is the information, we’ve broken it down to it’s simplest form – we have nothing to hide.

    They don’t and it stinks to me.

  • 539 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:21 PM

    So quit moaning about pardew and ashkey

  • 540 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:22 PM

    he has had offers then he up the price to chase people away

  • 541 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:23 PM

    reasonable offers at that

  • 542 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:23 PM

    JT…In theory, that money should still be available to the club. So, withholding? Yes. Exporting? Not at this point imo.

    Welsh…There is that, but then also the fact that he has no reason to sell as things stand. If people want him out then they need to make themselves heard.

  • 543 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:24 PM

    pardrip oot

  • 544 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:24 PM

    They won’t be going anywhere

  • 545 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:25 PM

    Welsh…I like to be more upbeat than miserable, but what is it you’d like us to discuss? Our FA cup adventure this weekend? This winning streak we’re on? Our great new players from the transfer window?

    For whatever the reasons you believe, there is little positive to talk about right now, wouldn’t you agree?

  • 546 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:26 PM

    add ray wilkens to the o’leary list of possibles!!!!!!!

  • 547 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM

    this man will take us down

    http://www.toonpool.com/cartoons/Pardew%20takes%20Newcastle_179734

  • 548 toon22 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:29 PM

    Blackey has the brownest nose in football.

  • 549 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:29 PM

    belfast if ya still on are they both on the same bill??

  • 550 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:29 PM

    Yeah I know that but we got be careful when there’s a match on and the fans are singing get Ashley out or get pardew out that doesn’t that affect the players on the pitch or not.

  • 551 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:31 PM

    i stand out side his shops with a banner think b4 you buy

  • 552 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:31 PM

    jasper you seem to know wat ya talking about so the next accounts that will be available that we can see will be last years tho won’t they?

  • 553 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    I am upbeat it’s you lot talking about getting Ashley and pardew , at the end of the day nothing’s going to happen so I couldn’t give a rats ass

  • 554 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    ibiza we could talk about oil drilling? :)

  • 555 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    Out

  • 556 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    yes unless he is one of the blackhole gang ;-(

  • 557 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:35 PM

    get ur filthy bit outta my hole hahahah :-)

  • 558 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:35 PM

    Welsh…A year ago I would agree. Seeing nothing change and frustration grow it’s becoming more and more irresponsible to not do something positive. People can only take so much.

    As for the games themselves, probably bad timing, as I can’t imagine it getting too much worse than it is right now.

    For all we know the players what appears to be lack of fight, stems from the clubs apparent lack of ambition. You never know, hearing some passion from the fans for better things may spur them on.

  • 559 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:37 PM

    Manx..I have those discussions to look forward to when I get back to Ibiza! Bloody oil drilling :)

  • 560 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    Are we in the top half yes
    Are we going to get relegated no
    Have we done good this season yes
    Have we got a good squad yes
    Haven’t we beaten some of the TOP teams this season yes

    What else do you want from pardew

  • 561 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:40 PM

    Are we in the top half yes
    Are we going to get relegated no
    Have we done good this season yes
    Have we got a good squad yes
    Haven’t we beaten some of the TOP teams this season yes

    What else do you want from pardew

    There are a few positive things that he has done this season he’s only bloody human

  • 562 jimmysmith // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:45 PM

    Ashley I suppose plans to bring in Cabella or equivalent in the off season, but didn’t bank on what could happen to morale once they sold Cabaye without a replacement, or didn’t care.

    Either way it’s reckless or negligent and it’s part of a pattern.

    I generally accept he has us better placed financially but really you want to see your assets on the pitch or at the very least in infrastructure, not in the bank or god forbid actually worse.

    Now we’re clinging to the hope that once the money’s there he’ll spend wisely. But really, what chance of that, when it’s been clanger after shrouded deal after another.

  • 563 North Atlantic Magpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:45 PM

    Pardew is destroying Ben Arfa :(

  • 564 firebug666 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:47 PM

    North Atlantic
    Pardrew has already destroyed Ben Arfa

  • 565 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:48 PM

    I rest my case

  • 566 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    Ibiza

    I enjoy a relaxed exchange with other bloggers, even if I disagree with them. They make good points against me, which challenge me to answer them. They often throw up issues I’ve never considered. I don’t mind if someone disagrees with me, although I will pursue what I consider to be flawed logic more than others might.

    Certainly, I can’t help being side tracked by the odd person like Ciaran, who is simply abusive and insulting. The thing I hate the most is seeing someone getting bullied, especially by an individual who is both arrogant and misinformed.

    As for his paranoia about doppelgangers, it comes across to me as just another one of his defence mechanisms when he’s floundering. You reckon he has had good cause. I couldn’t see it from the exchanges I’ve seen. He was making it an issue when he was floundering. Even if it was a doppelganger, it was irrelevant to the issues being discussed. Nobody uses their real names on here anyway so why should it matter?

    When his arguments are shown to be ridiculous, he will insult people and cry that they are baiting him. He will then get abusive and refuse to speak to them. All an excuse to cover his embarrassment and escape his discomfort.

    If you’ve sussed me properly you will know that I’m prepared to bully the bully if need be. That might make me look villainous, especially to those who are just dipping in and out. So be it.

  • 567 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    he has destroyed more than ben

  • 568 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    Must have picked that Joey Abbel from the pub, and brought him to the ring lol

  • 569 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:51 PM

    Destroyed / destroying or failing to get the best out of him like pretty much every manager he’s ever had?

    Whilst I wont claim Pardew gets the best out of his players, Benny is a unique player who despite his potential, has never seemed to be able to apply it regularly throughout his career. Not sure this is all down to Pardew, although he’ll have his part in it no doubt.

  • 570 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    a man to avoid sounds right up his own

  • 571 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:53 PM

    I’m wasted on this blog

  • 572 Offkey // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:53 PM

    Why do people come on here and cry about being bullied.

    Truly pathetic.

  • 573 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    Who’s getting bullied now for god sake

  • 574 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:55 PM

    Ibiza

    There’s a fine line between abuse and funny craic.

    toon22 stays on the right side when he says, “Blackey has the brownest nose in football.”

    HAHAHA!

  • 575 Mister Tuff // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:56 PM

    Hilarious article on the Mag site. Well worth a read.

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/mike-ashley-newcastle-united-25-year-plan-revealed/?

  • 576 spitfire_ // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:56 PM

    I’m sorry for saying this but there is only one way to see ahsley sell Newcastle… by physically threat.

    If there is any truth about he want to sell the club back in 2009 I remember he said he try to offload the club because he was afraid for him and his daughter safety.

  • 577 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    Blackley…I have no personal issue with you or Ciaran. I could argue he gives as good as he gets, but you’ve only recently joined us on this blog and will view it as you see fit.

    It’s just dawned on me that you have admitted to not talking to your brother for over a year due to differing opinions about Newcastle, so maybe this is a complete waste of both of our time?

    I would like to discuss football with you, we clearly view things differently and that can only be good for a debate. But as you constantly have to bring Ciaran in to your points I will feel inclined to counter that and it’s already become boring.

  • 578 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    John Tudor

    Gis a bag crisps! I’ve not understood you all night.

  • 579 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    ibiza well make sure you’ve got your banner ready when ya back!
    “we will fight them on the (very hot and bikini clad) beaches”

    well that fight was pointless!!
    jesus i’d of got payed to last 4 rounds of that

    and people payed for that lol!!

  • 580 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:00 PM

    Blackley…And that line is open to interpretation.

    Show me where you think Ciaran is guilty of bullying and I will pass comment.

    As for toon22′s post…I can see that as both humorous and possibly factual….only possibly mind.

  • 581 jimmysmith // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    Maybe Pardew can’t motivate effectively enough, but I’m not sure who could under the circumstances.

    Cabaye jumps ship, your Captain and best defender, perhaps player, has been missing for weeks, along with a couple more first picks, his star striker who stupidly gets himself suspended at the worst possible time and then you’ve got 3 or 4, well children really, that don’t want to accept responsibility when the club needs them, the remainders of a squad that has long since been found wanting and Mike friggin Ashley.

    God help the bloke.

  • 582 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    try walkers dumbo ;-)

  • 583 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    Manx…Don’t worry, I’ll be there protesting on the beaches in my speedos. It may not look like I’m protesting, lying there on my towel working on my tan, but I assure you I mean business! :)

  • 584 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    If I got paid every time you lot moaned about Ashley and pardew, Christ I could buy the club myself

  • 585 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    Ibiza

    Believe me I’m bored with Ciaran now. I won”t mention him again unless he comes up with more nonsense.

    Suffice to say he reminds me of my brother Troy Stavers. Similar in their muddled logic and proper blog masters. I see KK on the other site is pasting him and he thought KK was me so he ran away and came on here! shared paranoia. Comedy Gold!

  • 586 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    its yer ears that give you away ;-)

  • 587 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:07 PM

    spit fire are you a complete tosspot?

    sorry if that offends you!!!!!!
    wat a stupid thing to say seriously!
    so your saying to actually threaten ashley with violence!

    and to think i was banned from posting for 2 days because i accidentally copied and posted a whole thread instead of 1 post!!!

  • 588 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:08 PM

    What no comebacks

  • 589 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:09 PM

    ibiza itll be protruding not protesting you will be doing

  • 590 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:09 PM

    2) Alan Pardew on the brink after losing backing of Newcastle players, PLUS Mike Ashley sell rumours grow http://mirr.im/1f1P5zx
    View summary Reply Retweet Favorite

  • 591 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:10 PM

    ibiza seriously after that post i hope they drill so much that ibiza sinks!!!
    but i’m not jealous at all!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 592 welshgeordie9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    I’ll believe that when I see it

  • 593 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    Lol Manxpie

    Two day ban

  • 594 jasper // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:12 PM

    Ibiza,
    I suppose it all depends upon whether one regards the club as a not-for-profit organisation or a conventional business.

    Until recently many were the former, in fact owners expected to lose money. Franny Lee said something to that effect. Jack Walker at Blackburn. No one expected to make money from a football club.
    However there is a lot more money in it now. So only the super rich can do a Walker. On the other hand the huge increase in money means that people are looking to make money from clubs – often Americans where sports clubs have long been profit making businesses like any other.

    I think (I don’t claim to know!) that he went into it partly as an ego trip – but he would have bought Spurs if he could – and partly as a business that would at least break even and would give him a publicity vehicle much as so many resent.

    It then went pear shaped. I don’t believe he didn’t know the club owed £££, though it is just possible that he didn’t know that the loans wouldn’t transfer. He slent a lot of money early on, often not wisely (pun unintentional), But the relegation was a shock, along with the estrangement from the fans. And The morons who threatened his family have a lot to answer for. So he has got a lot more cautious with splashing the cash, excepting when relegation loomed again. I think he is determined that over time the club should pay its way.

    I have no particular desire to defend MA. Indeed a have a rather strong aversion to having an owner who got much of his money from sweatshop labour. Wouldn’t want him in my house. But if one holds one’s nose he is more likely to keep us in the PL than a Venky, Ferdinand or Tan. Those who hope that the Sultan of Brunei or suchlike will take us over and into CL heaven seem a bit childish to me.

  • 595 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:13 PM

    I actually posted it before reading.

    Not a very long article like lol

  • 596 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:13 PM

    belfast do you think the mirror’s sources are the posts on here?

    infact ibiza always asks 2 sides of the story!!! mmmmmm

  • 597 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:13 PM

    JT… :)

    Manx…Speedos are readily available to all people mate…no need to be jealous ;)

    Did you really get banned for 2 days for re-posting a whole thread? That’s absolutely hilarious :)

    Blackley…Then I imagine you will be mentioning him again as clearly his opposing view is nonsense to you.

    Maybe just try not putting him down to others when making your points? Could be a start.

    Troy was a comical character. Tbh, I couldn’t work out how much was his views or how much was for show. Perhaps a family trait, but that would be a wild guess.

    I don’t really read .co.uk tbh, so not sure who KK is.

    Anyway, I’m off for a bit. No doubt I’ll catch up with you at some point.

  • 598 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:13 PM

    Ibiza

    This pc has slowed so much now it’s taking me five minutes to type a line!

    I found this from yesterday from 70TWO to Ciaran: “I did ask for you not to make personal comments, I am trying not to be ignorant and asking you to substantiate your opinion so that I may ‘learn’.”

    The next time he bullies someone, I’ll flag it up to you.

  • 599 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    belfast i think it would have been longer if i didn’t email ed
    and i was pissed a the time in both meanings so an apology was issued from me for a couple of angry emails lol

    the thread that i tried to repost was over 300 posts tho lol

  • 600 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    ferk me now its the blog polis im off he might scan me keys for prints or use a keylogger oh my lord whats the blog become

  • 601 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:17 PM

    Jaspar….I’m off for a bit, but will respond properly later. All I will say is that I fully accept mistakes will have been made, that is part of life and we have to accept it. I can’t accept his disregard towards the fans though. The way the fans have been split up and the once proud (and totally nuts to add) Geordie nation is so sad to see now. I can only blame Ashley for that, whether intentional or not.

    Been good chatting with you.

  • 602 jasper // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:17 PM

    And as I don’t believe in pipe dreams or that anyone is going to take the club off MA’s hands any time soon I would rather chant Pardew out as I really don’t think he’s much cop, and is a bigger risk to us than the owner, and easier to shift.

  • 603 clinath@ed // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:17 PM

    Ibiza you are without doubt my favourite and most respected poster on here, but to suggest Ciaran/ruddy has not bullied anyone on here is ridiculous.
    He is very subtle about it and obviously ver intelligent, but his condescending manner has belittled many a poster on here.
    For that reason alone is why I personally put up with B&Bs hounding of him….now he knows what it feels like.

  • 604 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:18 PM

    Ibiza

    You say, “Maybe just try not putting him down to others when making your points?”

    I try to stick to the issues and not get personal, but if I do put him down, he’s the one man most deserving of it. A bit of satire is better than insults and abuse.

  • 605 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:18 PM

    Looks like they needed to fill the side of a page in their paper lol

  • 606 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:18 PM

    i may try inblognito

  • 607 spitfire_ // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:19 PM

    manxpie

    HOLD YOUR HORSES you moron.

    I didn’t say that I except or like the threats… jesus f**king christ…

  • 608 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:20 PM

    Blackley…Honestly leaving now, but that’s someone responding to a supposed bully, not someone actually bullying.

    But I will take a look later.

  • 609 jasper // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:21 PM

    ‘Night Ibiza.
    Good chat, bit long between my posts as was trying to watch Salamander (as recommended by other posters) . Bloody difficult to do subtitles and blog at same time…..

  • 610 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:23 PM

    speedo’s are available to everyone!!??
    i thought they were just for zee germans

    aye ibiza i tried posting throughout the spurs game getting angrier and angrier and then the only post that got through was “can anyone see my posts” which made me even more angrier lol (eds sense of humour is obviously dark!!

    1 of the most important posts that didn’t get through which needs to be said now tho is………..

    catchy is a tosser!! :)

  • 611 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:24 PM

    The sunday express back page is Pardew one game away from the sack. Don’t beat Villa you’re gone….

  • 612 spitfire_ // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:24 PM

    manxpie

    keep it down. I NEVER said that I tolerate threats or something like that. I jsut SAY THE FACT! DIFFERENCE!!!!

    And next time when you deside to call names… first read and then start to THINk really good.

  • 613 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:25 PM

    http://t.co/kUxk473mWg

  • 614 Ibizatoon // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:26 PM

    This is starting to lose any credibility now…but I am leaving…maybe… :)

    clinath…I don’t think I said he has never bullied anyone, although I’m not sure I would classify what he has done as bullying. Actually, that’s not true, I think the way he talks to TorqToon is well out of order and have said so.

    My point was more than I feel at this stage, Ciarans reputation on the blog plays a bigger part in how people deal with him. Possibly from his own doing.

    All in all, a lot of people would benefit by being a little more understanding and respectful to others views. That’s across the board.

    Anyway, I wont say I’m really off now, as god only knows what will show up when I hit submit, but in case, bye for now :)

  • 615 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:26 PM

    Aston Villa will be an easy game like.

    They’re actually far better away from home

  • 616 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:27 PM

    clinath he’s never got the better of me
    until he gets down to spelingg!

  • 617 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:28 PM

    Won’t* sorry lol

  • 618 jasper // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:29 PM

    As for B&B, I’m with him on this one.
    For instance the snide shots at Torq as a ITK, since when Torq has rarely posted.
    So not unhappy to see someone bite back. However it is all a bit pointless as he will never back down and seems to have a limitless amount of time available for such petty squabbling. After all there are a lot of better things to do than insist in being cock of the walk in cyberspace.

  • 619 Belfast // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:33 PM

    Think it’s fair to say it looks like certain players aren’t playing for him like.

    There’s a few there who look like they wan’t him gone.

    Or they’re just shite

  • 620 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:34 PM

    Jasper

    Classic last line. LOL.

  • 621 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:34 PM

    spitfire!

    “I’m sorry for saying this but there is only one way to see ahsley sell Newcastle… by physically threat.”!!!

    so spitfire next time you type and especially calling out someone that points out ya post make sure you read wat you have just typed
    and especially wen you tell someone else to read them posts!
    because otherwise you might actually show exactly wat that poster called ya!!? :)

  • 622 spitfire_ // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    manxpie

    Well… pardon me for not be an englishman.

  • 623 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:41 PM

    Come on Ed. Give us your spin on the alan oliver article in the mirror. This thread is now enormous.

    I said the other day pardew won’t criticise the players on the field because he’s afraid they’ll bite back. Once they do his position is untenable. He clearly thinks they’re close to it. It is the best reason I can think of as to why he doesn’t give them a rollicking.

  • 624 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:44 PM

    blackley well then all you have to do is threaten to repost the whole thread! :)

  • 625 manxpie // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:48 PM

    blackley we’ve heard from goof before that pardew has rollicked them and now willo has too so i think saying he hasn’t is wrong tbh

  • 626 Thump // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:59 PM

    @Blackley: I must have missed that one, what’s Anal Oliver said this time?

  • 627 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 16, 2014 at 12:12 AM

    More fighting and dodgy maths I see. An average day on the blog…

  • 628 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 16, 2014 at 12:16 AM

    If Pardew has lost the dressing room, he needs to go, but these “insider” quotes are ridiculous. This person could be anyone and if it’s a genuine NUFC insider, he should be strung up.

  • 629 valle // Feb 16, 2014 at 12:16 AM

    There are times when I actually wonder if Mike Ashley have hired people to roam the internet blogs and spread propaganda… Sure there might be some who can appreciate some of what he has done, I am one of them. But the chivalry some of you guys on here shows to defend his honour is suspicious to say the least. No one can be THAT fond of him, surely?

  • 630 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 16, 2014 at 12:20 AM

    Valle

    I think many of us hate the lies spread about anyone involved with our club and that includes Ashley.

    There are more than enough reasons to be critical of Ashley without having to make up garbage.

  • 631 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM

    Thump

    Sources say he’s lost the players.

    Manx

    He may have been brave enough to have a go at them in private but my point is that he is too scared on a match day. He doesn’t feel confident enough that they won’t react. Some may have reacted already in private, but goof ain’t going to say that.




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