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Eleven Players Could Leave Newcastle In Summer

9:39 am, Saturday, February 15th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 121 Comments

We were pleased to read last night that Newcastle are going after Remy Cabella of Montpellier, and are trying to seal a deal for the 23 year-old French U21 play-maker, and we just hope that news is true.

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Ben Arfa to be sold this summer – it’s now probable

But it seems the number of players Newcastle need is increasing, and increasing quickly, and there are a number of reasons for that.

It’s now obvious some of the players already at the club are just not good enough, and will be leaving this summer and they includes players like Jonas Gutierrez, Dan Gosling, Gabby Obertan, Shola Ameobi, Sylvain Marveaux, Romain Amalfitano.

And while we hope we are wrong, we just cannot see Loic Remy wanting to stay on Tyneside permanently when other bigger clubs are keen to sign him up.

And if things don’t improve vastly before the season ends, don’t be too surprised if Newcastle unload both Hatem Ben Arfa and Davide Santon, who have both been less than impressive so far this year.

And it will not please Newcastle fans at all if Hatem is sold, as he is still one of the most popular players at Newcastle, and he wanted to come to Newcastle back in the summer of 2010, after we had just been promoted back to the Premier League.

But in the summer he will have been on Tyneside for four years and will have only one year left on his five year contract and expect Newcastle could well cash in on the mercurial winger.

And Santon has done himself no favors with his last two appearances at left back against Sunderland and Tottenham, when he looked a liability in defense.

And since Newcastle have plenty of cover for him in Paul Dummett, Massadio Haidara and Yanga-Mbiwa,   don’t be too  surprised if Newcastle sell him and he moves back home to Italy.

So there’s nine players who could depart this summer, so Newcastle had better get busy lining up their replacements – and there may be two more.

We never even mentioned Papiss Cisse, who is likely to leave if any clubs comes in with a £10M offer for the 28 year-old Senegal striker, who looked sadly out of touch on Wednesday night, and Fabricio Coloccini who could return to Buenos Aries to be with his family this summer.

What do you think?

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121 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Slank // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:50 AM

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    7Slank // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    I think that this summer transfer window will be quite busy by all football clubs in general and Newcastle in particular.

    I think the departures will be Colo, Jonas, Shola, Marveaux, Obertan, Gosling and possibly Ben Arfa.

    I think Santon will be given the benefit of the doubt and stay.

    I think a bid will be made for Tiote but will be rejected.

    The club’s priorities would appear to be a replacement for Colo, Cabaye, Shola and at least one winger.

    Some of the second string will be released but I expect others to be upgraded like Armstrong and possibly others who have been on loan like Abeid and Good.

  • 2 Jan Stavik // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    Santon was our best and most consistent performer in the first half of the season.

    Arfa is a very frustrating player, he’s got all the skill in the world, but has no work rate and have been looking overweight this season. I’d happily sell him if he is not improving a lot until summer, he’s a luxury player we simply cannot afford to play. We need two way players, look at Gouffran on the other side – working his socks off and supporting his full back in a great way.

  • 3 toon1707 // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    Would not be to fussed if all those mentioned left as long as suitable replacements are brought in we already have a light squad though needs about 4 to add now so could be a busy summer 8 out 12 in (yeah right)

  • 4 Blofal // Feb 15, 2014 at 9:55 AM

    Santon is not a LB. He needs a fresh start at another club or at least a loan.

  • 5 Newcastleforlife // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    Players that should leave if Pardew is the manager:
    Coloccini
    S. Taylor
    Santon
    Guttierez
    Gosling
    Ben Arfa
    Gosling
    Marveaux
    Obertan
    Amafllitano
    Newton or Vuckinic
    Shola
    Pappis Cisse
    Tavernier

    Not sure on MYM

    Players coming in:
    Keep Remy
    Not sure on Luuk yet
    Sochaux strijer
    Lazacatte(Lyon)
    Grenier/ Hamouna(St. Enteinne No.10)
    Cabella
    Ball playing central defender
    Physical Defender

  • 6 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Ashley is Asset stripping and selling players to maximise the Profit he can get before he eventually sells the Shebang to the highest bidder?

    This is in fact what is going to happen, i do believe that there will be more than the players named leaving in the summer months? There will be no Pre-season planned in before the start of the 2014 / 2015 year and we will spend most of the latter part of 2014 doing a Scum sitting at the bottom of the Prem ! But by this time the Fat Ash will have maximised his Profit margin and will fully invest in Glasgow Rangers in Scotland and blled them dry financially too ? He will not be bothered either way if we take the drop to the Championship!

    If anyone on here thinks otherwise then, i don,t know anymore! But i know i just don,t trust the hierarchy at the club as far as i could throw them !

  • 7 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    For blled read BLEED !

  • 8 niafron // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Bonjour messieurs.

  • 9 Slank // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    5Newcastleforlife @ 5

    Clubs which have a mass movement of players (in and out) in a single transfer window rarely, if ever, do well in the immediate season.

    That is why some players who may not be first on the team sheet will remain with the club as suitable replacements for those regulars who get injured or suspended.

  • 10 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Heh Niafron! ca va monsier,

    Have not seen you on here for a while, any news from France about perspective transfer moves in the summer?

  • 11 Slank // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    6NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    By no stretch of the imagination can the sale of one player (Cabaye) be classed as asset stripping.

    The previous Geordie owners asset stripped the club by giving themselves, their families and their cronies vast sums of money from the cash through the turnstiles and the money borrowed from the banks.

  • 12 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    get out now ashley

  • 13 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    its not asset stripping its worse than that

  • 14 TurkishFan101 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    Here you go lads, read this and in no way can any fan still want Pardew here.

    “Some of the players were still squabbling among themselves in the dressing room when the manager walked in and told them to “Shut up and listen to what I have to say”. Pardew told them that he was already a millionaire and didn’t need to work, but told the players that they “earned £30,000 a week and were only in it for the money”.

    He meant that he was only in football because he loved the game, but his comments were misinterpreted and taken by some of the influential players as a sign of arrogance. A week later, Pardew axed Tevez before their 2-0 defeat at Manchester City and he was clinging on to his job when they lost 2-1 at Chesterfield in the Carling Cup.

    After the game, chairman Terrence Brown stormed down to the dressing room and claimed that their performance had been worse than a Sunday pub side, but they staged a mini-revival the following weekend. Pardew vowed to go back to basics the following weekend against Blackburn and it was Teddy Sheringham, who had waited to patiently for his chance on the sidelines, who inspired their first victory since they beat Charlton.”

    Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-421908/Pardew-lost-dressing-room.html

  • 15 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    expect at least 6 players going ben krul tiote mym santon colo debs koko take yer pick slank

  • 16 blew // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    Many of Graham Carrs recommendations
    have failed miserably. He has not thought
    about a leader on the pitch nor has he
    brought in a competent header of the ball.

  • 17 LeedsMag // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Ashey is at a crossroads. If he is close to selling, then he will ge as many of the players out who have value.If not,surely even he knows that a firesale will destabilise the club so much that next season will be a disaster. Especially with AP in charge

  • 18 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    no leeds mag he is at a dead end

  • 19 Byker Boy // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    I’ve said it since Santon first came to the club “He can’t defend” he flatters to deceive and a one trick pony going forward. Poor Colocinni has had to suffer because of Santon’s deficiencies for years now. The sooner we’re shot of him the better. Ben Arfa another player who flatters to deceive very much like his compatriot”Robert” before him. Ben Arfa has only one year left and inevitably will be sold

  • 20 NoClue-Pardew // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Arfa and Santon is not The problem, Pardew is. If we had a decent tactical manager he would get the best out of hatem. Why Should he even bother playing to his potential when he is substituted the next game anyway when some of our crappy player who fits pardews system are back from injury. Honestly he sould leave the club if pardew doesn’t get sacked in the summer witch is doubtful. Will be sad to see him leave tho. Incredibly talented player and been my favourite Newcastle player for a while now. :(
    Pardew out!

  • 21 jimmysmith // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    Geez, who’d a thunk it!

  • 22 niafron // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    What about this revolution?

    Nothing happened, isn’t it?

  • 23 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    @11:

    I seriously think that this was his five year plan all along?

    Get in, and own a mid-table, Prem team, plough a few Million in, to clear debts which were built up in the previous adminitsration.
    Start buying in young talent to maintain Prem status for TV money / rights, wait until the young talent develops, then sell for as much as he can get for that new talent and pocket any Profit made!

    Sorry, but of course its Asset stripping? At the same time he is using the ground to advertise his Sports Direct Empire which he is paying next to nowt for? People in Newcastle are gullibe, and will support their team no matter what and he is using that fact to full advantage? God knows if lived in Toon i,d be sat there too! But, i divulge, Ashley knows that whatever he does the ground will be full anyway on match-days? Football is a religion in Newcastle and he knows that.

    We will never be anything more than Top Ten while he is owner, season ticket sales have apparantly plumetted, with lifelong fans not renewing their tickets.
    No-one player wants to come and play for us without being paid top money because of all the Crap which they have to endure while they are here! Any prospective signings are expected to hit the ground running or bear the embaressment of being branded failures beforethe even set foot on the Park!
    The exception was Papiss, who came and shot us into fifth while BA was still here, now look at him. Sat on the bench every game?

    It surprises me that De Jong wishes to move permanently to us, or is that Media crap too? If there is the summer exodus, being reported on here then it may well be that he is stripping us before an eventual sale?

  • 24 niafron // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    @newestmagpie

    Nothing new… Would even the “The newcastle fashion” belong to the past concerning french players.

  • 25 niafron // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    … would even SAY…

  • 26 jimmysmith // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    I think Pards would of better served the club by not admonishing the players, but channelling their disillusionment into an angry hysteria determined to tar and feather the owner and run him out of town on a rail.

    Or go one better, and whip the lads up into a lynching party.

    Mike Ashley, bloody disgrace!

  • 27 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    ashley go eat some goat shit

  • 28 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    its better than the shit you feed us

  • 29 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Well Monsior, ce la vie!

    I think a lot of French players will be moving back to le Frans in de summer?

    Shame is that !

  • 30 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    Oh good

    I have dropped in on AMATEUR ACCOUNTANTS HOUR on the blog.

  • 31 TurkishFan101 // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Blew

    Blaiming poor Graham Carr now are we? If it wasn’t for Graham Carr our team would be full of Steven Taylors and 18th century hoof the ball. Players can only get much from the managers that manage to get there full potential out of them. Let’s take out Tiote, Ben Arfa, Cisse, Marveaux, haidara, mbiwa, sissoko, Debuchy, bigirimana, Remy, Anita. Then give charge to Pardew so he can get jack Tompkins, mark noble, liam ridgewell, james Collins, AC, Obertan, Kenwyne Jones.

    You would be so happy with those signings, you are probably the small minority that blames just the players and owner. Last time I checked the players ain’t the one with tactical enforcements, it wouldn’t make a difference if we had Cristiano Ronaldo, messi, ozil. We still would lose and Pardew will make them look like Sunday league players.

    Read this article and tell me, everything that’s gone on their is happening here.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-421908/Pardew-lost-dressing-room.html

  • 32 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    football in its current form came into being in the 19 century however both are correct

  • 33 niafron // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Anyway, the players are a secondary question right now, i’m more interested to know what could be the global project for the club this summer.

  • 34 LeedsMag // Feb 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Just thinking back to AP’s comments post spurs – Am I right in recalling that he said Santon came off from LB as we needed a left footer in there – a left footer at LB – no shit Alan! Thats Guardiola/Mourinho type thinking.
    Spells out loud and clear its not just the owner thats the problem.AP takes responsibility for making good players look below average and a team looking leaderless

  • 35 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    And people are dictating to each other what their opinion should be. Football fans in general are w@nkers, really. Some people on here make me ashamed to follow NUFC.
    I will try later to see if the attitude has improved.

  • 36 jazzyp // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Benny personally would be no great loss to nufc if we could get the right price or even a straight swap for Cabella. Ben arfa has all the talent to make a world beater but has more bad games than good. Yes he can score wonder goals and is a player that can lift bums off seats in amazement, But what has he really done for the club since his arrival.
    Cisse is another player who needs to seek pastures new as is the usual suspects that are always mentioned

  • 37 jazzyp // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Markaccus
    Who’s rattled your cage this morning mate

  • 38 anthc // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Bit off topic but when is the time annual season ticket renewals are due? Be interesting to see if the club extend it as people rightly so will be hanging on to see what happens in the transfer market this summer. They should be sorting deals now for completion in the summer. Heres hoping anyway!

  • 39 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    more looking to see if we are still in the pl

  • 40 jasper // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    We have a lot of skilled players. BUT
    they aren’t playing as a team.

    Passing is none existent. Each one takes too many touches. Not enough movement so no outlet. Very susceptible to high pressing by opponents.

    Players played out of position as pointed out ad nauseam previously

    Debuchy is the only player advancing towards byline who is “correct footed” e.g. Right foot right wing. (And too slow to beat man in outside anyway). Other first choice FBs or wingers not. Hairada is but not used…..so no crosses into box from byline, especially low ones, for forwards to run on to.

    No player is ever in advanced midfield position between the lines. No route available on the ground which renders Cisse ineffective.

    No midfielders getting into box in open play (e.g. Like Nolan, Bowyer, Solano did).

    Skilled players look discouraged. MYM, HBA, Marvaux, Santon.

    Good Players left on bench and not given a chance. Very little rotation of players unless forced by injury or for cup games.

    Very conservative substitutions made too late. Late subs don’t have time to get into game and look headless.

    Evident gulf between manager and players. When there is an injury break players don’t go anywhere near him, unlike Spurs, Mackems, etc at same time.

    Yes we are missing quality players in some positions. BUT we can’t do anything about that until the summer. So we need to make the best of what we have and try to get momentum going for next season and to encourage players to want to join us.

    There is only one thing that NUFC can do at his moment to address all these problems.
    Replace Pardew with a competent manager

  • 41 beermonkey // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    blew can you explain how carrs players have failed

    santon’s in playing poorly should be dropped not his fault he hasn’t, doesn’t mean he is a failure

    mbiwa formed part of a def that didn’t concede, is it his fault he was dropped

    debuchy been class sissoko done ok but for me is no winger so been played out of pos
    cisse 13 goals in 14 then pards put him on the right wing put ur arm round him play to his strenths he will score hat full of goals
    benny marveax pards don’t know how to use them again they will move on and do very well

    i don’t see failure in any of carrs signings in fact there is profit in all except cisse but that’s not his fault

  • 42 Rebbeca from 7 miles away // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Well I suspect there’ll be a shed load of speculation from now until August. It’s quite clear we’ll be losing around 6 players in the summer who either don’t belong to us or out of contract or are just being moved on.

    As fun as it it to speculate who we might buy and sell before start of the season the limbo that the club is in at the minute gives us no basis to pin our hopes on,

    It’s going to be a crazy few months with 1000′s of names linked including players owners managers coaches, all I really hope is for the 1st time in a few years we have everything in place and approach the start of next season in a professional manner with everything needed to compete.

    All I want is a fighting chance and a bit of hope.

  • 43 jasper // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Anthc

    There isn’t a date for many. If paying by DD then they roll it over.
    Last payment for 2013/4 is this month. March is first payment for 2014/5.

  • 44 catchy in norway // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    players to leave in the summer

    should get about 20- 25 million for them

    Mathieu Debuchy
    Loïc Remy AM(LR)
    Davide Santon D(LR)
    Michael Williamson D(C
    Cheick Tioté DM(C)
    Moussa Sissoko M(CR)
    Yoan Gouffran AM(LR),FW
    Dan Gosling M(C
    Hatem Ben Arfa AM(CLR
    Fabricio Coloccini D(C
    Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa D(CLR)
    Tim Krul GK
    Luuk de Jong FW
    Paul Dummett D
    Shola Ameobi AM(C),FW
    Vurnon Anita D(L),DM(C)
    Sammy Ameobi AM(L
    Papiss Demba Cissé AM(R),FW
    Sylvain Marveaux AM(CLR)
    Jonás Gutiérrez M(CLR)
    Steven Taylor D(C)
    Massadio Haidara D
    Gabriel Obertan AM(LR)
    Adam Armstrong FW
    Gael Bigirimana DM(C)
    Haris Vuckic M
    James Tavernier D
    Robert Elliot GK

  • 45 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    Hope springs Eternal !

    And Maraccus ! It would take me a hell of a lot more than the people on here to make me ashamed of following my home town club !

    Not sure where your going with that comment?

  • 46 Toon Tang // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    20 – 25 million combined ???

  • 47 jazzyp // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    Rebbeca
    We all know it is going to boil down to one thing……..Ashley. Where does he want to take the club and what are his priorities. We had a cracking first half to the season but as usual and typical Newcastle style weve collapsed .
    Major changes are needed……unsure on that one as I felt a couple of quality additions in January could have pushed us on to a top 6 finish. But the loss of Cabs is proving to be massive

  • 48 catchy in norway // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    players to come in

    should cost about 550k, wondering how long it would take to send these players backwards :(

    Darren Carter M
    Hallam Hope M
    Mathias Kouo-Doumbe FW
    Izale McLeod FW
    Paul Reid D
    Clive Platt FW
    Lee Collins D
    Gregor Robertson D
    Ricky Ravenhill M
    Matt Duke GK
    Alan Connell FW 31
    Chris Hackett M
    Kevin Amankwaah D
    Ishmel Demontagnac M
    Ian Morris M
    Roy O’Donovan FW
    Gary Deegan M
    Ben Tozer D
    Emile Sinclair FW
    Leon McSweeney FW
    Matthew Heath D
    Ben McNamara GK
    Antonio German FW
    James Hurst D
    Matty Blair M
    Kane Ferdinand D
    Matt Harriott M
    Stuart Dallas M
    Dean Snedker GK 19 183 76 - - - -
    30
    Sean McGinty D
    Luke Norris FW
    Claudio Dias M
    David Moyo D
    Brennan Dickenson FW
    Ivan Toney FW
    Jacob Blyth FW
    Danny Emerton M
    Jonathan Hooper FW
    Ben Heath GK
    Connor Roberts D
    Joe Widdowson D

  • 49 catchy in norway // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    TT

    yeh

    if we are really lucky

  • 50 jazzyp // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    Catchy
    we would do well to get any money for remy and de jong as there not even our players

  • 51 Toon Tang // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    catchy, ha ha i see your angle, because we are a shower of shite at the min we would probs be lucky getting 20 – 25 magic beans eh.

    Where did that second list of players come from

  • 52 catchy in norway // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    jazzy

    tell that to ashley, bet he just thinks he got 2 barging players :P

  • 53 hibbit // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    well put rebbeca thats all most fans want ……..CATCHY YOUR TROLL GET BACK UNDER YOUR STONE

  • 54 catchy in norway // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:22 AM

    Northampton, league 2 :0

    about pardews level

  • 55 catchy in norway // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    hibbit

    grow a pair you twit

    what is calling me anything really going to do ,HMMM omg im a troll

    prick , little at that :)

  • 56 catchy in norway // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    hibbit is a hobbit

    lmao

  • 57 hibbit // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    CATCHY IF THE CAP FITS WEAR IT TROLL

  • 58 LeedsMag // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Before the speculation starts on who goes,who comes,it will depend on which league we are in .It could take 42 to 43 points to stay up this season and right now we are a million miles from another 6 points – the next 4 or5 games are crucial

  • 59 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    Wondered how long it would take before people started insulting eachother again on here today?

    I,me off ! The problems at the club are well known without spouting insults at eachother !

  • 60 niafron // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    An Hobbit who don’t want to have problems with copyrights…

  • 61 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    exactly said that for days
    people just ignoring saying we are safe
    there is always 1 team goes on a massive downward slide
    fm get shot of the lot

  • 62 BuckLuck // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    Thank god for Carr. Without his scouting we probably wouldn’t be in PL. Not his fault Pardew can’t coach and use technical players.
    Carr – Pardew has been a cultural disaster from day one.

    Ben Arfra, the most talented player in Newcastle for decades can’t be used because he isn’t defensively strong enough. He is now a shadow of the player we saw glimts of the very few times Pardew was forced to use him in an attacking wing position.

    Ashley has done us no favors, but Pardew is as much a disaster as Ashley for Newcastle United. Not only does he provide awful football on the field, but our investements in players are thrown out of the window, with the exception of a couple of players. Cabaye because his worth really was a lot more than £4-5m when we bought him.

  • 63 Sav // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    If Inter still think Santon is the new Maldini, they are welcome. Maybe Jose would like to swap us Lukaku for him as he’s also a fan, apparently.

  • 64 wolfshead@toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    any player who felt pards wrath on wed can count themselves lucky nolan isnt still at the club as well

  • 65 mindcompressor // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    i would not surprise if sissoko or mbiwa would like to leave. sissoko looks frustrated and possibly he wants to play in club from champion league too, mbiwa probably was expecting much more by coming here and i don’t think he is happy with a bench… since cabaye is gone i think debuchy is thinking about coming back to france… untill cashley would show that he cares about sport result not only his wallet, all players with ambition will be leaving with no morale and will to die on pitch for nufc… i hope that finally we bring more young British decent players

  • 66 ash1001 // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    All these lists have a few names missing, whys Pardew not discarding himself along with his coaches (least that’s what they are called)

    As for all his comments about HBA, I wonder if its ever occurred to him what other managers would get out of HBA and Marveux for that matter, I think a good manager would have got a lot more out of them. As for the Spurs game and having a go at HBA, hell they were 2 – 0 when he came on, does Pardew thing HBA is Captain Marvel, to be honest if Pardew had a go at me I would probably have decked him ‘Donachie Style’.

    Anita must be one of the blued boys because he was absolute garbage on Wednesday.

  • 67 jazzyp // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    Sav-Would take that swap in an instant mate
    Mind c-I think Mapou looks less interested with every game he plays. Looked awesome at the beginning of the season , But is constantly being played out of position and only being used as a sub. I hope nufc is not hoping for a glowing revue to his mate Cabella

  • 68 stuart no9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    all these players havnt became bad players overnight.
    They are good players playing in a crap team .
    You can buy 11 world class stars , but if you cant manage them properly , those same players look sunday league,that is what is happening at our club.
    Pardew has never been a good manager – never will be.
    Pardew would have made Alan shearer look like danny graham. 11 great players still need to be motivated- organised and confident, it is pardews job to do that , that is all he has to do – its his job , its what he gets payed to do – he just cant do it , never has done at any club he has managed,

  • 69 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    Time to wake up Ashleys having your life! Him and Llambias celebrated their team Spurs 4-0 hammering of Newcastle United, shows its all a racket he’s making millions out of Newcastle United and sticking two fingers up to the supporters. Llambias looks to be coming back so nothing will change its business as usual.

  • 70 wolfshead@toon // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    ash

    other managers have tried to get the best from hba have you never wondered why he doesnt play for france

  • 71 beermonkey // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    wolfshead@toon

    while i get why we sold Nolan he wanted a long deal big wages
    he have missed him on and off the pitch especially the last 6 weeks and during the sunderland games
    his character and natural leadship is missed
    not that many type of players out there

  • 72 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    The return of creepy llambias will mean pardews job is secure.

  • 73 BuckLuck // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    wolfshead@toon

    Ben Arfa is a special type of guy, and Pardew has more or less confirmed it in public that he needs special man management.

    When that’s said, Pardew is probably the worst manager to manage Ben Arfa when we’re talking philosophy and tactical knowledge. You see it again and again. Technical dribblers are used completely wrong.

    Another view on it. Pardew demands every player to play the way he want’t regardless of what kind of players he has at his disposal. He does not ADAPT.
    In my view that is possibly one of the most important assets a manager could/should have.

  • 74 TikiTakaAcca // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    Hey everyone !
    Sorry for the re-post !
    But me & my friend run a Twitter account, purely football related. It’s not just about Newcastle, it’s about football in general, but mainly Arsenal & Newcastle as they’re our teams.
    We try to run it as professional as possible, so we have a layout.
    We’re no ITK’s, but we do have a huge knowledge of football, especially the Premier League. We also have a few popular account following as they liked the content we we’re providing.

    Would be very thankful if you could drop us a follow !

    Thanks so much & enjoy your weekend !

    PS.
    Ben Arfa won’t be leaving.

  • 75 ash1001 // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    @ #70 Wolfshead

    To answer your question why he has never played for France, the answer might just be one of two reasons Didier Deschamps totally dislikes him, or Pardew has killed off the sparkle that he had by the way he has treated him ie Bugger off Jonas and where the hell is Haderia.
    Especially when others are excluded from criticism by Pardew, ie. Anita, Shola, Obertan. etc

  • 76 beermonkey // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    wolfshead@toon
    benny fell out with the france manager
    when he played regular for before the present French manager was in charge he did get at least one call up

    benny could be the best French player and there manager wont pick him

    not sure weather they fell out over his move to us or something else

  • 77 TikiTakaAcca // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    Hey everyone !
    Sorry for the re-post !
    But me & my friend run a Twitter account, purely football related. It’s not just about Newcastle, it’s about football in general, but mainly Arsenal & Newcastle as they’re our teams.
    We try to run it as professional as possible, so we have a layout.
    We’re no ITK’s, but we do have a huge knowledge of football, especially the Premier League. We also have a few popular account following as they liked the content we we’re providing.

    Would be very thankful if you could drop us a follow !
    https://twitter.com/TikiTakaTweets

    Thanks so much & enjoy your weekend !

    PS.
    Ben Arfa won’t be leaving.
    (Sorry, forgot to post the Twitter link)

  • 78 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    The bulk HBA, is carrying tells its own story!

  • 79 LeedsMag // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:10 PM

    Stuart @68 dead right.Good players still need confidence and a belief in the manager/style of play.Ours look disillusioned and demotivated.Scandalous the way AP picks players,builds them up, then drops them,plays them out of position etc.Mbiwa classic example, good athlete,great potential, just starting to adapt to the PL with a run of games then dropped.
    If AP and Mourinho were cosying up to each other the other week, perhaps AP could ask him about man management

  • 80 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:13 PM

    Ash
    Other managers get more out of HBA?
    You mean like Gerrard Houllier? Allan Perrin? Deschamps? Blanc?
    All never got his to unleash his potential and all lost patience with him

    As for Marveaux, the lad has never been a regular starter here not at Rennes, most his appearances at Rennes came from the bench except his last full season which was his only decent season

  • 81 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    Marveuax another Carr, cock-up! Stolen from Liverpools grasp and they’re eternally grateful to Carr. The sooner fans grasp the fact that Carr and Pardew couldn’t get employment at any other premier league club.

  • 82 Mag52 // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    There’s, as usual, a lot of guff about Pardew having to go and it looks as if Carr is starting to cop it as well ( it only seems like yesterday that he was the best thing since sliced bread having found us a bunch of good players at bargain prices)
    The thing we never hear is who these Pardew knockers believe the club could reasonably expect to get as manager in place of AP. Let’s have some answers to that one !

  • 83 mindshaft // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

    Not sure how Ashley is asset stripping, he sells our most valuable asset every couple of years which the toon have done for the previous 40 odd years of me following them.
    Shearer was offered to Man U amongst others but refused to even talk with them

    That said, Ashley is stripping the fans of all hope. Pard’s and the players seem to have given up after the Dec games and are just waiting for the season to end
    No matter what happens between now and end of season I’ve never seen the fan base so depressed or apathetic with 12 games to go and sitting 9th – its like they’ve taken all the high spots out the rollercoaster and we’re just stuck in the dip

  • 84 stuart no9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:41 PM

    Leeds —–yeah for some reason mourinho seams to have a bit of a soft spot for pards, maybe feels sorry for him , and hes not a threat.

  • 85 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    @82 why don’t you offer up some fine examples of what Carr and Pardew have achieved in their time at Newcastle United, instead of sniping at me!

  • 86 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    If i had to guess at Jabba’s next appointment one name keeps going round in my head that would fit Jabba’s criteria,Neil Warnock.

  • 87 clinath@ed // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    Where are all the Sunderland fans? Lots of empty seats at the SoL…

  • 88 clinath@ed // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    No mojo no

  • 89 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    Clinath@87
    It’s 2 for the price of one today in Matalan.

  • 90 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    It might be shoplifting day at the Bridges.

  • 91 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    @82 thought not!

  • 92 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    The local clinic are offering free herpes tests.

  • 93 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    Somebody has invented soap,they have left to lynch whoever was responsible.

  • 94 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 12:57 PM

    Its happy hour at the pot noodle factory outlet.

  • 95 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    It is a tradition in Sunderland the day after Valentine’s Day for the males to shave the females backs and feet with a heavily sharpened bone.

  • 96 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:09 PM

    a tin of aldi beans would make a better fist of it than parcrap

  • 97 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:12 PM

    I have no problem with us selling anyone at the club but what I do have a problem with and it’s a major bloody problem is us selling players and then dithering for months and months to find a replacement.

    Pity Ashley can’t sell the manager………………….saying that he wouldn’t get anything for the chancer

  • 98 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:14 PM

    The Jeremy Kyle Roadshow is in town.

  • 99 Markaccus // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:14 PM

    Its rent collection day, they are all hiding

  • 100 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:19 PM

    Well for me it would Be easier to solve the manager than a Bunch of Players!.

    …Benny, Santon and Debuchy are three important players for me :)

  • 101 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:20 PM

    They are at a meeting in the town hall to try and lower the age of consent for humans and ponies.

  • 102 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    jesper

    Getting shot of Pardew and replacing him would cost millions.

    Selling players will make million’s.

    Which option is Ashley going to go for???

  • 103 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    Ciaran

    You are peddling misinformation on this site to serve your own ends. You are doing NUFC and your fellow fans a major disservice. You demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of Mikey’s financial arrangements for the club. When you’re challenged you resort to both childish insults and accusations of “baiting” or “hidden agendas” or “doppelgangers”. To save face you run for cover and seek succour in the arms of certain fellow bloggers.

    Your own agenda is plain to see in your lame claim “I would rather be in League One than have Mike Ashley as an owner”. That comment shows just how far you and your MAOC comrades are out of touch. Your misunderstanding of what is going on at Barrack Road explains why.

    You say, “Ashley was forced to stump up the 100m as he didn’t know it existed supposedly on account of not doing due diligence.” Wrong! Mikey was well aware of the main part of the debt. He was simply not aware that it was repayable immediately on a change of ownership. Due diligence would have revealed this as well as the true extent of the financial problems affecting the club under the previous regime. NUFC owed millions to other clubs in outstanding transfer fees, for example. With pressure from the fans, they had been borrowing from future revenues in the hope of short term success; Michael Owen being a classic example.

    The point is you criticise Mikey for not doing due diligence as if it is something that cost the club big time. Quite the opposite! That debt was there before Mikey came. You and the rest of us just didn’t know the full extent of it. When Mikey realised, he took the best possible course of action apart from writing it off. He consolidated it, and instead of the club paying interest at a commercial rate on enormous sums, it now pays no interest at all. If you don’t understand this, you’re unlikely to appreciate the significance of the magnitude of the benefit to the club. You talk as if Mikey created a £100M debt for the club because, through a lack of due diligence, he discovered the club had it. Complete twaddle! What’s more, Mikey now takes the prudent course of action for the club of paying for players when the club can afford it and, unlike the previous regime, paying up front rather than putting it on tick.

    You criticise Mikey for the club not investing in players and then blame him for increasing the debt by £40M. You can’t have it both ways. At substantial risk to his own finances, he had the club invest (hence the increased debt) and got us out of the second tier at the first time of asking. The likes of you would rather have us still there!

    You then change your complaint to it was his fault that we got relegated and talk as if he should therefore compensate the club from his own money. That is a different argument for a different day, and I’m happy to debate that with you too.

    If you’re going to criticise Mikey, then get your facts right. Or at least respect fellow bloggers who wish to challenge your facts. I’m happy to be corrected by anyone on mine if it increases my knowledge and understanding.

    i wouldn’t care so much but there are plenty of things that you could reasonably be criticising him for. You would be better served sticking to those things. You’re doing no one, certainly not the club, any favours by peddling serious misinformation through your lack of understanding.

  • 104 MrMojoRisin76 // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    It was a full moon last night.Most of them are waking up naked in Zoo’s across the North East.

  • 105 Newcastleforlife // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    who would replace Pardew under Ashley regime?

    Ashley’s previous managers:
    Keegan
    Kinnear
    Shearer
    Hughton

    Except Keegan, no big names..
    he no more cares club legends…

    Sal<1.5 M per annum
    if thats the trend to go by…
    Probables:
    Steve Clark
    Graeme Jones
    Zola
    Di Matteo
    Any championship upcoming managers
    Any assistant managers
    any Ligue 1 mangers

    Take ur pick??

  • 106 Ciaran // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    He drops the line and I am not biting.

  • 107 Newcastleforlife // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:33 PM

    Slank @9

    I stilll stick by my list…
    May be Saylor, MYM ,Santon ,Newton, Vuckinic will not be sold. Richardson will also be sold.
    All others will be sold.
    Club will be forced for atleast 5 inccomings… Ashley had done the same after oour first season back…

  • 108 JackButler // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:34 PM

    I am convinced that Ian-syndrome is spreading throughout this blog.

    Split, or multiple personality disorder seems to be affecting quite a few on here

  • 109 Ancientcoptic // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    Strange how after losing out on Cabella, then a few weeks after the transfer window is closed, we are linked with Cabella again

    Sorry, “once bitten, twice shy.” I almost find the suggestion insulting to the intelligence of Newcastle fans.

  • 110 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    @103, the paragraphs are getting ridiculous you need to rest your fingers.

  • 111 Mag52 // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    @91. If you’d been paying any attention to Mag52 blogs for quite some time you would have realized that we finished in 5th. position in the Premiership two seasons ago under Pardew.
    We had a pretty good run in the Europa cup the following season.We’ve had some fine results this season beating Spurs away, Man.U. away, and Chelsea at home in a match in which it was generally agreed that Pardew’s tactics were the difference between the teams.
    I’m under no illusions that AP is a great manager. He’s at best an average manager who gets it right some times and gets it wrong others.
    He’s an average manager in charge of an average team which will end the season round about mid way up the league (a position, incidently, which will be the envy of a number of premiership clubs come the end of the season)
    My point is that his job to do better for NUFC has been made impossible by the transfer policy adopted by his boss.
    Now, how about you telling us all who you suggest (realistically!) could be employed to replace Pardew.

  • 112 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM

    @111, all that time to come up with that rubbish, your dedication to failure is frightening.

  • 113 John Tudor // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    resting fingers and brain
    the is no defense of pardew ashley and whoever
    they have cocked up our club good and proper

  • 114 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    JB…we are going to loose millions on players because most our players are underperforming under this management.

    Lon term it would be cheaper getting rid of Pardew. Laudrup is looking ay a £2M compensation from Swansea because of the way he was dismissed! Even if Pardew got £5M it would be a cheaper solution.

  • 115 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    Good afternoon Ciaran

    I’ve ignored your disgraceful insults and silly accusations. I’ve made reasonable points and stuck to the issues. Its a shame you have to disrespect people who strongly disagree with your views.

    I’m sure other bloggers will note your reluctance to get involved in a debate on the issues and they will make their own minds up about why that is.

  • 116 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    Mag

    Is there any paragraph you disagree with and would like to take up with me? Or is it all just a bit too long and boring for you?

  • 117 mag // Feb 15, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    The whole dogs dinner @116

  • 118 Mag52 // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    @112. I don’t know about you mag, but I’m not sitting here poised to read your informed reply to my earlier blog. I fit this blogging lark in between getting on with my life!
    Fortunate really,wasn’t it, that I didn’t waste my time waiting for your reply to my request for your suggestions of a manager to replace Pardew as reply CAME THERE NONE.

  • 119 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 15, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Haha Santon has been our player of the season so far. He was our best player against Chelsea away. He takes so much unfair criticism its unreal.

  • 120 Byker Boy // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    Haha Ha Ha !

  • 121 toonluvva // Feb 15, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    Blackley & Brownlie.

    Thank you for an interesting contribution re Mr Ashley.

    Whilst I cannot wait to see the back of him, I do recognise that without his intervention there is no telling which league NUFC would be plying their trade in today.

    My main gripe with the guy is that he has taken an absolutely amateurish approach to the management of the club.

    The man is lauded in the City of London for being a shrewd businessman, having built up SportsDirect to a massive player in the market. Obviously over the years he has identified and appointed great managers and advisors for SD.

    At NUFC he has treated us like some sort of hobby. Just think of his appointments to senior positions that appear to be made purely on the basis of people he met whilst out drinking. Wise, Llambias, Kinnear & Pardew.

    Whilst it is not asset stripping, his tactic of using our team solely for the purpose of receiving large amounts of money to advertise SD is in my opinion morally reprehensible.

    Mr Ashley may not have any idea about owing and managing a football club. Nothing wrong with that if he could identify sufficiently talented staff to perform the role on his behalf. It seems that he is quite content to continue owning the club solely to advertise SD. No ambition to develop the club at all. He just spends the minimum to maintain PL status.

    I think he has found himself in an awkward position. He took a gamble when buying us. Perhaps he thought we could be quickly sold on again for a profit and was prevented from doing so when the “black holes” in the accounts were discovered.

    He now has a club that is unsaleable at the price he wants for it. To sell for a loss would put the spotlight on his personal business acumen, and the “men in red braces” are quite aware that the mismanagement is entirely down to him.

    In short we are stuck with him. If we are relegated the value of the club would plunge and Ashley would not want to take the financial hit and consequent loss of “face”, In the meantime, I expect him to plod on buying young players and hoping to sell on for a profit after a few seasons or as their contracts expire. He won’t sack Pardew. It would cost too much in compensation, and again his judgement in appointing him in the first place would be questioned.

    Empty grounds won’t phase the man, he has his eyes on TV revenues. All we can hope for is that there is someone out there silly and rich enough to offer a price acceptable to Ashley for him to exit SJP. Trouble is, I just can’t see it.




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