Newcastle To Receive Big Bid For Striker This Week?


There is news that the Russian side Rubin Kazan have failed in their bid to sign 25 year-old PSV Eindhoven striker Tim Matavz, and their next target could well be Papiss Cisse of Newcastle.

papiss cisse stoke penalty

Papiss Cisse – scoring penalty against Stoke City

There’s still about ten days of the Russian transfer window left, and they could bid at any time, but if they are to move  for Cisse, we would expect it would be sooner rather than later.

We cannot imagine that Papiss Cisse would want to play in Russia, but he may not get the choice, and if a bid of around £10M comes in for the Senegal striker, he could leave Newcastle.

There are reports in Russia that Kazan could make a bid for the Newcastle striker, but Papiss will not leave unless there’s a substantial bid for him.

With the very negative reaction to the sale of Yohan Cabaye from Newcastle fans, the club may want to think twice about selling a second top player this month, but when did the fans’ reaction ever mean anything to owner Mike Ashley?

It’s clearly Newcastle strategy that if the club get a good bid for any player at Newcastle, that meets their expectations, they will sell, whenever that is, and whatever negative effect it may have on the team.

And there’s something very wrong with that – if indeed we are trying to build a top team on Tyneside.

However,  Papiss is the third choice striker right now behind on-loan strikers Loic Remy and Luuk de Jong, and he may not get too many games at Newcastle for the rest of the campaign, if the two top strikers remain fit.

What do you think?

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102 comments so far

  • Graeme

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #1

    The fans opinion makes absolutely no difference – if a big enough offer is put on the table, Cisse will be offski, no question about it.

    Never mind the quality, feel the wonga!!!

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  • Nufc-83

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #2

    Get rid of him one of the worst footballers to ever play in the premier league.

    ian7523 // Feb 18, 2014 at 1:52 AM

    Sorry, this is off-topic, but does anyone know what has happened to Bigirimana? Is he injured?

    There was a report out a few weeks ago that he has gone backwards in his development and it looks as if he wont make the grade unless something drastic happens. Pity as he looked like a real prospect last season (he has not been injured and has been playing in u21 most of the season).

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  • anthc

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #3

    10 million? We’d be mad to turn that down. Bye cisse thanks and good luck although the casino will be sad to see you leave!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #4

    NUFC 83,
    He is injured at the minute which is why he isn’t currently involved. He got injured early to mid Jan.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #5

    lilongwe

    any idea why he wasn’t involved before that? couldn’t even get a place on the bench which i find odd after his form last season.

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  • Nufc-83

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #6

    Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 18, 2014 at 9:18 AM

    NUFC 83,
    He is injured at the minute which is why he isn’t currently involved. He got injured early to mid Jan.

    He has not been involved all season and has played in the u21’s for most of it with no club willing to loan him. Seems clear the report about him going backwards was more than likely correct.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #7

    Sage,
    I’d guess the number of players who play centre mid. He didn’t play much last season after the arrival of Sissoko. This season we have had Cabaye, Tiote, Anita and Sissoko available for the centre mid role. Bigi should have gone on loan, but I read somewhere that he turned down the chance as he wanted to fight for his place.

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  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #9

    ED

    You need to keep up!

    Matavz failed his medical. the deal was agreed 8 mill euro

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #10

    lilongwe

    Yeh I guess that could be why, but when we were using all of those players in the starting 11 surely he should have been worth a place around the squad.

    He didn’t look out of place last year.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #11

    NUFC 83,
    He hasn’t been involved as we have/had too many central players as it was. The report (I guess you are talking about the Journal article) has no real evidence or quotes, just speculation based on past players and the good old mysterious club insider. A player used to first team football will stall if they don’t continue to get first team football, that is fairly obvious.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #12

    NUFC 83

    Actually…I’d be inclined to believe Lilongwe rather than that article. I’ve seen plenty of articles like that with agendas…and those agendas are normally to slag off Mike Ashley.

    If Bigi doesn’t make it then he can join the hundreds of other players who look fantastic in the PL when they’re young and then disappear due to lack of progress, fitness issues, injuries or personal issues.

    And considering we had Cabaye, Tiote, Sissoko, Anita and Ben Arfa ahead of him and he’s been injured since Cabaye left…well I’d say there’s still time.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #13

    Sage,
    But look at the midfielders, if Tiote was injured, Sissoko goes to centre mid, Ben Arfa comes in on the wing. Fans would have been up in arms if Bigi had played and HBA continued on the bench. The only player he could realistically push out is Anita, but for me they are different players, and when Anita played it was as part of a three and he was very effective there.

    If he was fit, I would have no doubt that he would be ahead of Gosling and Marveaux in the squad, and possibly started the last couple in Tiote’s absence.

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  • Nufc-83

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #14

    To me he would have certainly been sitting on the bench if he had continued to develop as per last season. Maybe he has not regressed as much as that article suggests but regardless of this he needs to be playing first team football – myself i would have forced the lad out on loan.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #15

    lilongwe

    That’s the issue though…fans would be up in arms….shouldn’t come into it, the manager should do what he thinks is best, not what we think. (which i guess he is doing)

    But I just feel bigi looked really good in the middle last year, certainly no worse than sissoko or anita have done in the middle. I’m not saying to start him, but surely worth a look in for 10/20 mins off the bench in games we are winning to close them out?

    Just my view anyway, out of all the kids he was the one who looked ready.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #16

    lilongwe

    I agree about the loan too, he should have gone out on loan for the first half of the season, shouldn’t have been given much option really…just told he was going out on loan and disagreeing would possibly harm his future here and hinder his development.

    Wanting to fight for your place is admirable, but pardew isn’t one for rotation so he should have been out.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #17

    Cisse has been Pardewed. Plain and simple.

    If we don’t create him chances in the box, he’ll hardly score. Put Andy Cole in our team and he wouldn’t either. Why? Because he needs service. Pardew doesn’t base his team round providing service INSIDE the box. He contains and looks for a lucky effort on goal.

    The system is making him look poor. Remy also had his longest period without a goal. Long shots and wonder goals only last so long.

    People say this player and that player haven’t played well over a period of time… when you have an inept manager at the helm, that is what you get.

    Good managers get average players playing well and very good players playing really well. Poor managers like Pardew brainwash some fans into thinking the players aren’t good enough.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #18

    NUFC-83,
    You can’t force him to go on loan. If the lad doesn’t agree to it, he doesn’t agree to it. Abeid did the same at one point, last year maybe? His development stalled massively, but this season he has done very well on loan. He may well come back and play a part next year now, despite being told last summer he was finished at the club. So taking the word of an anonymous club insider/’someone with influence at Newcastle’ who isn’t even quoted directly lacks a lot of credibility.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #19

    Sage,
    I agree, he looked decent last year, and held his own. But not to the point of dropping an in form Tiote or Cabaye, and we know Pardew likes Sissoko a lot, so he would be given the central berth over Bigi every time. I think it is just a case of there being too many in his position.

    As I just said you can’t force him to go on loan, maybe they could threaten him, but then you run the risk of upsetting and losing a player you think has a future.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 18, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #20

    Bigi looked good when he played last season, so did Simpson and Perch and both of them are back in the Championship.

    It’s funny how some people slate some of our current players for being Championship level, let some people also wish we had Simpson and Perch back…

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #21

    TDS

    some do, but that doesn’t mean they are the same people, can’t just generalise like that. Also people think the young lads will develop and improve where they think perch/simmo have hit peak at that level.

    lilongwe

    I agree you can’t force him, but surely if you tell him he wont play here then he would go? Unless the lads a bit dim. He’s wasted a year of his career by doing this.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #22

    Pardew will be working hard all week to dream up excuses for this coming Sundays performance. If we get hammered, what then? Will his excuses wash? Can his apologists help him?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #23

    Sage,
    I agree that it makes no sense from the pint of view he needs games to progress. It doesn’t necessarily mean he is a bit dim though, it could just mean he had absolute confidence in his own ability to force his way in. He could have looked at how poor Tiote was last year, and Cabaye under performed and wanted away, and thought if Tiote doesn’t up his game, or Cabaye leaves before deadline day in August, then he is good enough to play.

    Once deadline day passes, and Tiote hits form, most clubs at the level Bigi would be looking at will have there squad sorted, and no longer be interested.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #24

    I’m not a fan of the phrase ‘pardewed’….why is there no responsibility on players to make sure they improve?

    Cisse has an awful touch and passing, why doesn’t he spend an extra hour working on it, developing that area of his game so he can fit in with the way the team play?

    There is an argument if we pick him we should set the side up to play to his strengths, but he still has responsibility to improve.

    Look at willo, during his time out the team he has refocused, cut out a lot of the silly errors and is now much more confident playing the ball out from the back into midfield or to the fullbacks.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #25

    lil

    maybe i was a bit harsh but pardew or coaches should be saying, we have x, y, z in your positon, at best you are the 5th choice centre mid, we need you to go out on loan. If they did do this and he chose to stay I don’t think he is that clever.

    A lot to be said to be confident in your own ability, can’t fault him for that, but also need a touch of realism and he should see how well a loan move works to get people game time in first teams.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #26

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD4QpwPahpM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    Look at Cisse’s goals in Germany in this vid. All but 1 (19 yards out) were scored inside the box.

    The lad is a poacher finisher. Don’t expect him to be thoughtful in build up play etc. He finishes chances, that is what he’s good at.

    Ruining his natural belief and understanding by playing him on the wing and giving him no service is Pardew’s fault. Nothing short of a disgrace. Tevez on the wing as well as not playing him is confirmation of his clueless offensive management.

    He’s wasting our attacking players. Somehow he can make Ben Arfa a scapegoat too.

    I can’t believe people are still brainwashed by Pardew. Look at the patterns on play, the movement, where chances are created, how they are created, how many players go forward and overlap, one-twos, triangles… the reasons why they play poorly are found in those areas.

    He’s wasting very good players and it’s such a sad sight to see.

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  • Greebol1892

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #27

    Laurent Robert 32 @ 17

    Wholeheartedly agree 100%.
    Pardew’s system (shite) is more suited to a big CF bringing others into the game. Cisse plays on the shoulder and always looks for runs in behind but frequently ends up offside because our supply line is woeful:- relying on individual skill, set-pieces or pot-shots from outside the box. Cisse is a proven quality finisher but devoid of confidence because we don’t play 4-4-2 (he needs a supporting 2nd striker) nor do we play to his strengths.
    For some people to say he’s the worst striker we ever had or one of them; obviously they never saw Frank Pingel, Andreas Andersson nor Stephane Guivarc’h………
    Sadly, Cisse will never flourish under Pardew so he should go.
    We still have strolla, who will get an extension…… ROFL!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #28

    laurent

    I agree I don’t think we create anywhere near enough in the final third, we don’t make many good chances but we did against spurs, just never took them.

    We need to do more but cisse should also be working on his all round gameplay too.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #29

    Transfer, Pardewed is a term meaning he has taken a good player and through poor systems and interlinking, made them look worse than they actually are. My pals and I refer to it quite a bit. 🙂

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #30

    laurent

    I think the same could be said of a lot of managers who don’t get the best from players though, not something exclusive to our manager…although he does excel in it.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #31

    Sage,
    I agree with that. I don’t think Pardew is a great coach, nor Carver or Stone, but we have players that struggle with some of the basics. That isn’t the coaching, that is just plain laziness and a lack of effort on their part.

    Cole was mentioned earlier, when he was at Newcastle he was a finisher, nothing more. When he joined Man U he struggled initially, and spent a while out of the team. When he came back in 6 month’s or so later, he was a much better all round player and fitted perfectly into the team. Yes, some coaching will have come into it, but I remember him saying at the time that he did extra training sessions every day to improve the areas of his game that he needed to get back his place.

    how often o we hear of our players putting in that sort of effort?

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  • North Atlantic Magpie

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #32

    Get rid of Cissé ASAP!!!

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  • Greebol1892

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #33

    TS

    Strongly disagree Cisse has an awful touch and is an awful passer. Not the best but if only we could play to his strengths and see him with a sprinkle of confidence. I think he would be ideal with LDJ once Luuk gets up to the pace & fitness. Not under Pardew though.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #34

    TS

    I’m not saying they are the same people, although I’d bet that some of them are.

    My point is that there is a vast range of opinions on our players and manager and extremes are unnecessary. Usually the manager gets it right, have we let anyone leave who has gone on to excel elsewhere? I can only think of Forster and that’s only in Scotland plus we couldn’t have kept Krul and Forster until now.

    I haven’t heard of top 10 PL teams trying to bring Best, Perch or Simpson back to the PL…

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #35

    Why does any fan want to see any of our players sold? He could come off the bench this season to score a crucial goal. I’d rather have that extra competition up front than £10Min the bank.

    Replacing him in the summer is a different matter though…

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #36

    Laurent,
    But how many poacher type strikers play at the top level these days? Almost all the top strikers have much more to their game nowadays. Either work rate, hold up play, link play, etc. Dzeko is probably the closest to it, but he is also a far better all round player than Cisse.

    I agree, he is a good finisher, and would do okay at a club that plays to suit him. But that isn’t us, or any top team. Hence only Russian and Turkish clubs are seriously interested.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #37

    TDS

    fair point, Idon’t think many of our players are good enough for the top sides, only a couple but ultimately not many are capable of that step up and we are peak of their careers really.

    but yeh, we don’t sell our best players and if we do we get good money in (just need to use that quicker really).

    lilongwe

    I remeber cole at man utd getting much better, been watching classic matches on sky recently and some of his play was fantastic when at man utd.

    Roy hodgson did an interview with clive woodeward, interviewed each other at the same time, and hodgson said it was easy to spot which players do the extra training and which just go home as soon as they can.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #38

    TS

    I think Krul, Debuchy, Tiote, Sissoko and Remy would attract interest from the top teams in the PL. Still too early for the likes of Santon and Anita I think and Colo would have been good enough a couple of years ago.

    I’m not worried about us losing any player who isn’t good enough for the top 10 of the PL. I’d rather see us playing a prospect than the likes of Perch, Best or Simpson. That is assuming we have the prospect in our squad…

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  • beermonkey

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #39

    I will agree with those that say cisse should have worked to improve

    but with remy in the squad we could have set up the team like we did when ba was pushed out left
    this created lots for cisse

    surely its better to play to a players strengths that we own and up his value rather than play a loanee that has no intention of joining us and set for him
    makes no sence
    maybe its something to do with the Wonga deal when he was either after leaving or after more cash

    on bigi given last seasons performances he should have been automatic bench player and been given lots of time from the bench this season more so given the fact that cabs was striking
    young Sammy the same, been good improvement from him this season but 3 starts and a few subs is not enough to help bring these players
    and if goofy hadn’t got injured Sammy would never had played
    its about managing the squad and pardew for what ever reason just don’t do it

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #40

    With Cabaye in the team a front-three of Goofy, Remy and Cisse should have worked as Cabaye took control of midfield, Goofy and Remy worked the channels and came into the box when required and Cisse provided predatory movement in the box. However…I never saw that actually work.

    Without Cabaye, who is providing our creativity? Much more likely that LDJ will knock down balls for the likes of Remy and Goofy to capitalise on.

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