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Update On Fabricio Coloccini For Villa Game

10:04 am, Thursday, February 20th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 135 Comments

The Newcastle manager Alan Pardew has said that captain Fabricio Coloccini could return from injury for Sunday’s very important home game against Aston Villa, and the Argentine has been training all week. for the first time since he picked up that knee injury at West Brom on New Years Day.

fabricio coloccini looking depressed

Fab Coloccini - could return against Aston Villa

Newcastle are in a big slump at the moment, seven defeats in the last nine games and only one win, so it will be important to have Colo back in the center of defense for the game on Sunday afternoon, because Colo tends to bring a calmness at the back when he plays.

This is what Alan Pardew  told the Shields Gazette today:

“Colo’s worked hard, and he’s looking better. He was in all weekend, so he’s had four or five days.”

Cheick Tiote is fit again from his hamstring injury, and the Ivorian will almost certainly come straight back into the side for Sunday’s game, and his work rate and aggressiveness in central midfield have been missed.

And Loic Remy will return after serving his three match suspension for being sent off at Norwich City, so that’s also good news.

And if Colo makes the game, then Newcastle could have their strongest side out – and we need a win to raise the spirits of Newcastle fans everywhere.

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Tags: Cheick Tiote · Fabricio Coloccini · Injuries · Loic Remy · Newcastle News · Premier League



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135 responses so far ↓

  • 1 martoon // Feb 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    If he is anwhere near fit then I would play him instead of Saylor who hasn’t been great as we all know.

  • 2 Markaccus // Feb 20, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    Martoon.

    i would play a two week old loaf of bread instead of Saylor :D

  • 3 Slank // Feb 20, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    I expect him to play in a full strength team:

    Krul

    Debuchy – Willo – Colo – Santon

    Sissoko – Tiote – Anita

    Goofy – De Jong – Remy

  • 4 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    slank

    i think he will go for that team but different fullback, maybe dummet.

  • 5 mindshaft // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    If everyones fit then the first team virtually picks itself as we have no strength in depth

  • 6 martoon // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Markaccus – The bread might be a bit stale but at least it could show a clean pair of heels :)

  • 7 beermonkey // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    goto drop santon

  • 8 martoon // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    mindshaft @5 – As you say the team picks itself – really the only issue is Left Back as Pardew seems to be losing faith in Santon.

  • 9 Rotonda heights // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    I think it’s pretty immaterial who we bring in as players, if pardew and his alleged ” coaching ” cohorts are still here.

    Players must wonder why pardew is the manager at a club with 52000 home fans.

    Armstrong under a wenger, martinez, rodgers etc would thrive, under pardew he’ll be ruined in his ”containing” BS as would any fair player.

  • 10 Rotonda heights // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Mindshaft

    tell that to MYM, Cisse, Ben Arfa, marveaux etc

  • 11 Markaccus // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Santon reminds me of glen johnson. Likes to get forward, but is everywhere except where he is meant to be in defence.

  • 12 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    markaccus

    at least glen johnson gets goals and assists though, santon gallops forward and doesn’t even get back.

    Gary neville did a little piece today, maybe just on his twitter, explaining how these days fullbacks need to also be wingers and wingers also need to be fullbacks….just being one or the other isn’t good enough in the modern game if you want to beat the best sides.

  • 13 croftus5678 // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    i really wish we did not play with wingers as we may aswell just have 2 fb’s each side :-( we play a hell of a lot better through the middle.

    let the fullbacks take the wings and have 2 holding dm’s in sissoko/tiote to cover them going forward as debuchy is the only one with a decent cross form the wing in our team …well apart from sammy that is !

    play anita as a more forward cm as it looks like he’s prob the most likely outa the 3 to thread a pass through to goofy/remy/luuk.

    ————–krull—————–
    deb—-willo—-colo—-dumm
    ——tiote———–siss——–
    —————anita—————
    —–remy————goofy—–
    —————luuk—————-

  • 14 Markaccus // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    T sage

    Yeah i saw him saying that on MNF about a month ago. I actually think as pundits go he knows more than most. Makes the plegmmy scouse biscuit look rediculous.

    I don’t like Glen Johnson, and cringe whenever he is in the england team. He leaves us wide open all the time. Santon is the same, except like you say he doesnt get assists or goals.

  • 15 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    markaccus

    i think johnson has gotten a lot better at defensive duties this past couple years…it’s the one weak area of the england team for me

  • 16 FrankfurtMag // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    No point having a “World Class youngster on our books” if we never play him.

  • 17 Markaccus // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    T sage

    well he could only improve from where he started :D
    I still think other countries target our right hand side when he plays. Like you say, it is englands weak point. Kyle Walker is a better defender, not quite as good crossing, but is prone to getting a card or two. Not sure whi i would play there.

  • 18 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    markaccus

    rest of the team is good for me, walker gets caught out a lot but has pace to get back…it’s a tough call. Micah Richards is the best for me, but not been fit for 2 years now.

    i’d have

    hart
    ???, jagielka, cahill, baines
    barry, gerrard
    sterling, rooney, wilshire
    sturridge

    going off current form anyway….in the wider role plenty opportunity for townsend, oxlaide-chamberlain and others to push.

  • 19 Markaccus // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    T sage

    pretty similar to what i would pick. I am not a huge fan of jagielka, i might stick lescott in there.
    The southampton front 3 would also have a shout at getting a game too, i would even say Welbeck has a chance, if he can become the player that the media already seem to think he is. He does have potential.

  • 20 Nufc-83 // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Anyone else been impressed by LDJ? His hold up play has been excellent imo and works hard. He has snatched at a few long range chances but hasn’t had the service to see him get areal chance yet. Think him and remy will work a treat.

  • 21 Nufc-83 // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    croftus5678 // Feb 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    i really wish we did not play with wingers as we may aswell just have 2 fb’s each side :-( we play a hell of a lot better through the middle.

    let the fullbacks take the wings and have 2 holding dm’s in sissoko/tiote to cover them going forward as debuchy is the only one with a decent cross form the wing in our team …well apart from sammy that is !

    play anita as a more forward cm as it looks like he’s prob the most likely outa the 3 to thread a pass through to goofy/remy/luuk.

    ————–krull—————–
    deb—-willo—-colo—-dumm
    ——tiote———–siss——–
    —————anita—————
    —–remy————goofy—–
    —————luuk—————-
    I like this team but i would swap anita and sissokho around and have remy coming in from the left. I would also swap dummet for haidara but ye looks good.

  • 22 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    markaccus

    I like jagielka, think him and cahill play well together, best pairing of late. Lescott doesn’t get enough game time.

    I like the southampton lads, definitely in the squad for me, just not quite good enough to start yet.

  • 23 mindshaft // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    @Rotunda – no need, think Pards has made it abundantly clear they aren’t first choice players

  • 24 beermonkey // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    don’t like Johnson at right back
    I don’t know why he has never been played as an out and out winger you would think he would have excelled there

    got some good youngsters coming through for England, shaw sterling chamberlin barkley and a few others
    just cant see us winning a major for some time

  • 25 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    No time to stop and chat but just wanted to post an article to reinforce what I’ve been saying for ages. It simply does not pay for a PL team to be in the Europa League. The only time I can think that it is beneficial is if a CL club (with a CL squad) fails to get into the CL one season. At least then they can keep their big squad happy with a lot of games and European football.

    It might be fun for the fans (me included) but it doesn’t pay financially enough to strengthen the squad to deal with knocks, injuries and tiredness.

    To prove the point, Spurs are leaving out several top players so they can focus their minds and bodies on trying to get a top 4 place.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26252296

    Last season, I don’t think we were good enough for the top 7 and we were only 8 points off 8th place. Considering the amount of injuries that we had, I’d say that the Europa League could have cost us those 8 points, 8th place, a lot more money and a lot less grief from the fans.

    One to chew over…

  • 26 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    By the way…if Ciaran read this – I do intend to find and reply to a post from you a few days ago. I just haven’t had much time recently.

  • 27 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:27 PM

    winning it ensures a path to the cl tho

  • 28 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    Having looked at Sage’s England side I have come to the conclusion that the 2nd round should be the target for this World Cup, and if we achieve that, it should be celebrated like a well structured and profitable P&L Account.

    Is Townsend still flavour of the month back in the UK? He should be nowhere near a half decent international side. Barkley should go to the World Cup, maybe not a starter, but he is the natural successor to Gerard in terms of giving us power, ability and athleticism in midfield.

    I’d give Shaw a few friendlies and see how he gets on. Would much prefer him to play. Did Baines not complain about home sickness, hence him not being at Euro 2012? Not sure he could cope with the culture shock that is Brazil!

    Centre halves, I think we are really weak. Jagielka is okay, nothing special. Lescott turns slower than milk, Cahill is again, okay. Jones, Smalling, any others that could force there way in? (Don’t say Willo or Saylor)

    I’d be reluctant with Barry, he is four years older then South Africa where top class opposition made him look awful.

    Ox over Sterling for me. Sturridge and Rooney are no brainers.

  • 29 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/spurs-manager-tim-sherwood-vows-3149132

  • 30 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tim+sherwood+europa+league+top+four&oq=tim+sherwood+europa+league+top+four&aqs=chrome..69i57.11185j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=tim+sherwood+europa+league+top+four&tbm=nws

    tim sherwood says he has prioritised Europa league over a top 4 spot

  • 31 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    lilomgwe

    What I think it shows is that other than CB cover we have plenty of options and young talent in the side/squad.

    Townsend has been injured a while, I like the lad though, runs at people, can beat a man, puts in plenty good crosses and also offers a good shot.

    Then look how well milner player for man city in the FA cup, kept hazard quite but still offered enough going forward.

    Barry is playing really well recently and him and gerard holding would work for me as they are disciplined but also have a good range of passing. Either way though, we still have plenty of good options I think.

  • 32 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:40 PM

    TDS

    I see your point, it’s not a financial reward but what’s the alternative? just sit in 8th all our times?

    We need to be building a squad to compete in europe if we want to progress, can’t go 8th to 4th, and even if we did we’d need to invest heavily to deal with the champions league then.

  • 33 jimmysmith // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:41 PM

    With a fully fit squad we still can put out a side to give the top 6 a game. Injuries have undermined the last month as much as the loss of Cabaye, although injuries were always going to happen and we clearly have been found wanting for depth.

    The bizarre and inconsistent form of half a dozen of the players is more difficult to fathom though. Benny, Mbiwa, Santon, Cisse, Shola, Marv have stunk the joint out on more than one occasion each, and it’s been costly.

  • 34 catchy in norway // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    TS

    the problem with santon is , he don’t know if he is a winger or defender, same with debuchy,

    santon and debuchy are playing as wingbacks, yet we only play with 2 CB

    this IS something that is coached into them

    let the kid learn just one, he does more attacking than normal wingers, and his crossing is poor and his shooting even more poorer, yet the manager has let him develop this crazy habit,

    im sure people will find a way to pin this on Ashley

  • 35 catchy in norway // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    jimmysmith

    a good game or take points of them ?

  • 36 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    Sage,
    Yeah, I don’t buy that it makes no financial sense. It may not make you much money, but it brings with it prestige, and if you win it, it is still a reasonable pot.

    It is only really English clubs that treat it with such disdain. Atletico won it a couple of years back, helped them provide a platform to build on, and are now pushing Real and Barca all the way in Spain.

    Good on Sherwood if he is going to go for it, although saying it and doing it are very different things.

  • 37 beermonkey // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    while I agree on a financial bases Europa league bring in much, which is wrong they should improve it

    for a clubs commercial brand that improves
    attracting players improves

    I think there are more pluses to playing in the comp than negatives

    still its not for our club

  • 38 catchy in norway // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    jimmysmith

    you don’t put any blame on the manager for these being poor ( not shola )

    if players are playing poor, should the manager do whats best for the team ?

    flogging a dead horse springs to mind wit our squad under pardew

  • 39 catchy in norway // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie

    it seems strange us fans are so proud of our last cup from 1969,
    yet these guys just right cups off

  • 40 catchy in norway // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    rest at ease , im going back to work

  • 41 jimmysmith // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    Take a point here and there. The odd win with our first choice 11 and a stroke of luck, you’d still think, if the squad isn’t altogether dispirited and disillusioned.

    Still, our best 11, looks a good side to me, for what it’s worth.

  • 42 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    Sage,
    Barry does okay in the Prem, but he hasn’t been a good international footballer for years. I don’t mind Milner, in fact I’d prefer him in the role you have Barry, although I think that spot should be Carrick’s.

    Spurs struggled to create chances in the box. Partly due to AVB’s tactics, but partly because Townsend cuts inside more than Santon and Ben Arfa put together, and it took him more shots than any other player (that has scored this season) to score his first goal. He runs at people which excites fans, but does very little with it other than misfire.

    We have no depth up top, maybe Lambert as back up to Sturridge, but hardly awe inspiring.

    I’m still struggling to think of any form of good defence line up for England. We scraped through a vey average group, Uruguay, Italy, Costa Rica…. Uruguay and Italy should have our number and Costa Rica have the climatic advantage. If we get out of the group we should be more than happy.

  • 43 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:58 PM

    Catchy,
    I thin we should petition the club to strike it from the record books. Don’t want a financially redundant tin pot like that around the place – especially when we have to pay to keep it polished!

    On the finances of the Europa, up to the knock out stages clubs get paid relatively small amounts of prize money. This is in part down to the club getting the majority of gate receipts, and allowed to seek their own advertising space.

    Once in the knock out stages UEFA increase the financial rewards on offer as they now control advertising rights, and a portion of gates. This money is then distributed amongst the competing clubs.

    A quick google check of Europa night images shows me that Sports Direct signs were in increased numbers for the group games. I wonder why we made very little money then…..

  • 44 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 20, 2014 at 12:58 PM

    TS

    Articles from 2 publications that are highly editorial. They both put a massive spin on things.

    Clearly it’s better for a CV to have a trophy on it. Check a Wikipedia page for a manager and you won’t find a section listing their CL qualifications, but you will find a section listing trophies. But since he has left out Emmanuel Adebayor, Aaron Lennon, Kyle Walker, Mousa Dembele, Younes Kaboul and Hugo Lloris while already being without the injured Sandro, Erik Lamela, Vlad Chiriches and Jermain Defoe…then it’s clear that while it’s in Sherwood’s interest to win the trophy, what’s in Spurs’ interest is maximising the chances of a top 4 place.

    Tim Sherwood did not say “he has prioritised Europa league over a top 4 spot” for Spurs. He said he’d personally prefer to win a trophy than get in top 4.

  • 45 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:00 PM

    lil

    rooney has is best scoring season as an out an out striker, so have him and sturridge, then lambert has done ok last 2 years, carroll offers a different option if we need to target set plays last 10/15 mins

    i like carrick too, him or barry ok with me, either or.

    townsend does cut in too much but he still goes on the outside as well, with him left and sterling right it’s a decent option too.

    Like i say, can’t see us winning, getting out of the group will be hard, but as long as we try to win games not grind out 0-0 or 1-0 then i’m happy to treat it as progress for the kids

  • 46 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:00 PM

    ‘seek’ should say ‘sell’ at the end of paragraph 2 above.

  • 47 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM

    TS

    We need to build the squad and close the gap. You’re right, we can’t just target 8th every year. But 7th and 6th will usually be out of the EL too. And if we do get in the EL, we need to put out reserve squads and not risk our top players getting knocks.

    Sad but true.

    It’s great for poorer leagues, but it simple doesn’t work for PL clubs. The way they could make it work is for the winner (or the finalists) to be entered into the CL. That makes sense to me. Enter the winner straight into the CL and the runner up gets to enter the qualification stages.

  • 48 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    You think it can’t get any worse and Coloccini comes back!

  • 49 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    beermonkey

    I think the negatives far outweigh the positives when you consider the drain that is has on a squad. Look at all of the PL teams that have been in the EL league in recent years, I think virtually every one of them has suffered in the league.

    When you’ve got important and tough PL matches every weekend, why would you want to play your top players (many of whom are carrying knocks throughout the season) on a Thursday rather than give them a few more days rest?

  • 50 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    you cant build a squad when mr ashwipe sells from under

  • 51 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    Sage,
    I think you could be disappointed. Hodgson is a methodical bloke, he won’t go hung ho. He will have his targets, and his mind will be set on containment, and nicking a goal. Did you ever watch his Switzerland team play? Functional, uninspiring, but they had relative success under him. More of the same from the Euro’s would be my guess.

    Anyway, I am claiming part allegiance to Brazil as that is the side the Mrs and her friends/family support due to the proximity to her home country of Guyana. :-) Jogo Bonito!!

  • 52 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    Ashley has even banned bog paper.

  • 53 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:06 PM

    Tudor how are you?

  • 54 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:07 PM

    im fine and yourself

  • 55 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:09 PM

    Sound a tskunki turd tried causing bother for me he wants handcuffed to a ghost.

  • 56 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:13 PM

    TDS,
    That was something that was being discussed. I think they are bringing it in for this years winners going into the Champions League.

    Should we also advocate being knocked out of both domestic cups as early as possible, or do a Man U and just not enter as they also aren’t financially viable?

    Avoiding Europa is a ridiculous notion, as if you are targeting Champions League you need to have the squad to do that. By bypassing requiring a similar size, but lesser squad for the Europa league you put a huge amount of pressure on the one window and risk the clubs league collapse anyway if you don’t bring in the 5/6/7 players probably needed.

    By having a good sized squad for Europe but not playing in the Europa prior to Champions League you have unhappy players not getting a game.

    Either scenario doesn’t work, and even less so when operating on a ‘thrifty’ transfer policy.

  • 57 jimmysmith // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    I think Pardew fully rates maybe 11or 12 and has some reservations about the rest.

    I recognise the argument that those he doesn’t entirely trust have been misused may have some merit, but after having watched them play all season, I think it’s more likely a question of individual quality and consistency. I just don’t think the ones he doesn’t fancy all that much are all that great.

    Maybe he’s not the best manager, but certainly neither is the squad, relative to the top 6, as far as I can tell, and I know people put much of it down to Pardews lackluster leadership. I just don’t see how you reasonably can with so much bullshit going on upstairs undermining him.

    Then again, managers have been sacked for far less. So.

  • 58 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Employing Pardew fat mike is certain cup competitions remain unachievable.

  • 59 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:17 PM

    TDS,
    Differences between playing on a Weds/Sat and Thurs/Sun? Nothing at all. If you want a few days rest join a club that has zero ambitions….

    Last season’s failings were down to the club not strengthening in the Summer. Nothing more than that. had we strengthened then the impact of issues is less.

  • 60 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:19 PM

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/22640095

    Champions League spot for Europa 2015 winners. So next years winners get in the CL.

  • 61 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    Lilongwe

    “Thrifty transfer policy”? This is the most annoying and stupid criticism that is ever levied at Mike Ashley. The accounts are laid bare to show where all the money goes and yet clueless fans still want the club to spend more money than it actually has.

    Spurs and Blackburn have been in the CL but they couldn’t strengthen to a point to stay there.

    If you think that we should build a squad good enough for the CL BEFORE qualifying then I wonder if you watched what happened to Leeds and WHY it actually happened.

    We need to grow the squad gradually.

    Domestic cups are slightly different as they don’t require as much travel and are often against lower league opposition who play a well known style. And yet every PL club still rotates players in the earlier stages of the cups.

  • 62 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Ashley is worth more than Spurs owner and Liverpools but has zero ambition for Newcastle United hence our current plight.

  • 63 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Lilongwe

    Difference is that Wed/Sat is for a CL team with CL revenue and a CL squad! The Europa League pays a fraction of the money that the CL does.

    Had we strengthened more then the impact would have been less…yes that’s true, but there would have been a negative impact regardless! Now, winning a trophy is different but would you rather finish 5th and lose in the final of the EL or finish 4th and go out early? Would you rather finish 16th and get to the semi-final or finish 8th and go out early?

  • 64 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:30 PM

    mag

    Before you start, I’m serving warning. One more unwarranted insult from you and I’ll report you to Ed and ask him to ban you. You’re welcome to comment on issues regarding this club, whether I agree with you or not, but childish insults just ruin the blog for everyone else.

  • 65 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:32 PM

    Example?

  • 66 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:34 PM

    The club is drifting into oblivion under the autocratic Ashley and his refusal to invest in the playing staff.

  • 67 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    mag

    I don’t need to provide an example. There have been times where post after post from you were just childish insults towards me and several others and you know it.

    If you want to stick around and talk NUFC, then feel free. If you want to just insult people, please find somewhere more acceptable for that.

  • 68 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    TDS,
    At what point did I say we should build a squad for Champions League football before we got there?? Hop down off that high horse and read what people say mate before you blow a blood vessel.

    If you check, I say you have to build initially through a squad growing while in the Europa. That squad can then be developed more readily into a Champions League squad. As a pose to making Champions League and needing to add 5/6/7 bodies to the squad to cope with the demand. You seem to be of the notion it is best to avoid Europa when in reality it is a vitally important part of any club wanting to progress in to a regular Champions league squad.

    As for the thrifty transfer policy, the accounts also show a player trading profit since a return to the Prem. I have no issue with how much is spent, as long as the right players are brought in at the right time. They generally aren’t which is my main gripe on transfers, but to say that we aren’t thrifty is completely ridiculous. (Definition of thrifty is using money and resources carefully and not wastefully)

    Now, take a deep breath and relax mate.

  • 69 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    @67 well not on any today so wrap up!

  • 70 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:39 PM

    lilongwe

    Exactly…the sunderland players aren’t claiming to be tired despite 2 cup runs and are currently in their best league form for a couple years.

    I accept the more games you play the more injuries you get but if players want to be at the top they need to be playing that many games…all the top players manager it. Players like gerrard, rooney, bale, ozil, etc very rarely get rested as too important to the team to mist games.

    We need to have a squad that can challenege both. When we were last in europe we made 7/8 changes a game in the groups anyway, obertan, marv, gosling etc were all getting games.

  • 71 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    TDS

    following on from my last post to lil

    As we made so many changes when in the EL 2 years ago I don’t think it was the big problem…the problem was the difference in training and match prep, we couldn’t do the same routine we had the year before with mid week games.

    Now Pardew has experience of that, i’m sure he would get better results with that same squad.

  • 72 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    All of Ashleys ownership of Newcastle United has been about austerity while his other businesses surge Newcastle United flounders due to his reluctance to invest and to hire a Premier league manager.

  • 73 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    TDS,
    Revenue?? You talked about resting your top players man.

    Had we strengthened there would have been a negative impact… Okay, so I guess by that you would say that Tottenham should be in the Top 4 at the minute as their negative impact has dragged them down to 5th? It is impossible to quantify or even state matter of fact that there would be a negative impact if we had strengthened as that depends on who, how many, experience, age, positions.

    Your scenarios are pointless. I’m not sure whether you are trying to highlight a point, but just because you say that is what would happen doesn’t mean it will. I’d rather we were prepared for all competitions we were entered in, rather than stumbling through every single one with no real idea or sense of plan and direction.

  • 74 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    TDS

    spurs and stoke are two example of europa not having a huge impact on league form.

    Granted there are some it could be said has had an effect on, but that’s where you need people to build a squad (even if it’s 3/4 loans) just to boost the ranks.

  • 75 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    Ashley is one of the richest owners in the premier league he could quite easily turn Newcastle United into a top premier league side but chooses not to.

  • 76 beermonkey // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    do you feel the same about the 2 domestic cups?

    for me its about using the squad, ok we might a bit light with quality but wouldn’t cost a lot to sort that out
    if you look at the players we don’t use
    the likes of obatan gosling marveax cisse to name a few
    take them out and replace with players the manager wants and is willing to use he would be able to play a more rotated team when needed this would not impact on the prem

    for what ever reason we don’t rotate our team enough this became apparent over the xmas period

    the problem now is Ashley has had his fingers burnt and will keep well clear

  • 77 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    Under Pardew Newcastle United only have a fourteen man squad as he refuses to use the others.

  • 78 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    beer monkey

    exactly…you need to sell them that he doesn’t like using then get some in, even if free or very cheap players, there are always a lot of bargains around, it’s just finding them.

  • 79 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    Just as a quick comparison of these poor tired players. Newcastle last season had;
    2 players who made 40 or more appearances,
    10 players who made 30-39 appearances
    7 players who made 20 – 29 apps
    17 players who made less than 20 apps

    Chelsea had;
    6 players who made more than 60 apps
    4 players who made 50-59 apps
    3 who made 40-49 apps
    2 who made 30-39 apps
    2 who made 20-29 apps
    9 who made less than 20.

    Now, if playing to many games was the problem with injuries, how come Chelsea players were able to pal more games, and used less players. Oh, and win the Europa League…

  • 80 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    lilongwe

    Exactly what I said mate…nobody complains about being tired when you are winning games, the say they have good momentum. When you lose a few it’s always an excuse.

  • 81 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    lil

    Just comes down to managing your squad, resting at the right time, resting the right amount of players at once and also being able to deal with the different training you do as playing extra games.

    Pardew hadn’t done it before and was a bit naive, he’ll be better for it.

  • 82 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    The squad is full of cheap championship quality that needs clearing out and some Premier league quality brought in.

  • 83 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    Sage,
    Exactly, amazing how our injuries mounted up once we were 4 games into our losing run….

  • 84 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    lilongwe

    yeh we never had any little niggles when we were winning every week, same at all clubs.

  • 85 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    Sage,
    Naive, probably. Whether he will be better for it, not sure we will get that chance to find out.

    It still points a massive hole in his, and many others arguments that too many games caused injuries. Maybe poor training ground practices, lack of care by the players themselves, and confidence being low and players feeling any niggle as a more serious problem.

  • 86 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    lilongwe

    Yeh I know, it was my biggest complaint with benitez at liverpool….complained he needed to rotate so would drop loads of points with inferior players coming in but would play gerrard every game for 60+ a year.

    Now if he can, why can’t others?

  • 87 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:17 PM

    i have been bamboozled with figures excuses
    either run our team for the better or just go

  • 88 hibbit // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    mag maybe the rest have been found out and just arnt good enough for the prem

  • 89 Transfer Sage // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    john

    it’s really odd…why own a football club if you don’t want to be ambitious?

    surely he’d be better off selling it and have 250/300mil in the bank.

  • 90 beermonkey // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    sage

    one of kinnears biggest failings was not shipping out the dead wood
    gosling obertan marveax strolla Jonas

    should all have been shipped out in the summer all he managed to do was sell perch the least dead wood of our dead wood
    obatan marveax Jonas are on good money in our pay scale so even nominal fees would have given us a lot of room to bring in replacements

    the club is a position now where we have players that should be moved on and those wanting to move on
    the ones that want to move on will go first and the ones that should be moved on will stay due to the could fact we wont be able to get who we want for what ever reasons
    silly position to get in and mostly avoidable

  • 91 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    which in my eyes he burnt his fingers and now he is just making as much as he can be getting shot
    the guy couldnt give two shits for nufc
    and the old chestnut why would he run it down cos he is a shit

  • 92 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    before

  • 93 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    Under Ashleys ambitious five year plan we’ve been relegated flirted with relegation three times so he’s consistent.

  • 94 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    Man Utd have the ‘Chosen One’, Chelsea have the ‘Special One’, we have the ‘Unsackable One’.

    He doesn’t know how lucky he is to keep receiving a wage.

    Maybe he does, that’s why he won’t walk.

  • 95 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    More like a right one!

  • 96 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    I don’t know how this Villa game will go. A one nil win wouldn’t surprise me, but neither would losing 6 nil.

  • 97 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    truly a left

  • 98 Rotonda heights // Feb 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    TS @ 81

    and times when he is just stupid like playing saylor ahead of the promising willo / MYM combo.

  • 99 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    nothing less than a win using any of the squad should be his remit anything less……….
    you know where the door is, or can you not find it

  • 100 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    I’m a fan of Colo. I like how comfortable he is on the ball and although he can make mistakes, he can also play very well too.

    Not every player is perfect, so you have to take their ‘cons’ on board as well.

  • 101 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Rotonda, I’ve gone off Taylor the last few years. “Hollywood Taylor” we call him now.

  • 102 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:11 PM

    more like bermuda taylor …
    his brains are always missing

  • 103 Markaccus // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    We should beat villa at home. There are no excuses. The players have to step up, and Pardew has to pick an attacking side. There is no reason not to.

    Rotonda

    there is a rare convergence of our opinions….. mym should play ahead of taylor every time. Angel of the north, with his arms spread wide, welcoming attackers to newcastle with tje gift of a penalty for hand ball. Then as LR32 says, he becomes Hollywood taylor and acta as if it hit his face or nuts.

  • 104 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    in your opinion mark ,will he?

  • 105 Markaccus // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    John

    I think he will. All our attacking players are available, although i think he will only play attacking for the first 60mins at most, then revert to defense. I just hope we have a 2 goal lead by that point.

  • 106 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:21 PM

    fair comment
    i was gonna reword it to can he as i think he cant

  • 107 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:21 PM

    I have Mr. Taylor’s match worn shirt from the win against Sunderland when Owen scored two. Didn’t think I’d get it at the end when he threw it in the crowd, but I have a good reach advantage…

    Ironically it is next to the the dvd collection in a glass case. Hollywood style.

  • 108 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    i think he will bumble along to where he thinks safety will be be and hopes his ass aint bit

  • 109 hibbit // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    only a win will do if not he should walk as he has lost the dressing room and take carver and stone with him

  • 110 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    hibbit, he should have gone after Reading and a host of games after that.

    Can’t see him going, which deflates me.

  • 111 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    The thing about Carver is that he was fine for Sir Bobby, yet with a poor manager in Pardew, he looks poor as well.

  • 112 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    wherein lies the problem then

  • 113 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    if we can see the problem why is ashley sticking his head in the sand

  • 114 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    John, I don’t know.

    Mainly because he’s cheap and keeps our heads above water whilst he has minimal outlay and rakes in the benefits from advertising.

    For Ashley, he’s doing well. For me, he’s certainly not.

  • 115 Markaccus // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    John

    Well, i am more hoping that he gained something from last seasons relegation battle, and will try to actually kill off these lower mid table sides. Fingers crossed. But not holding breath :D

  • 116 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    you missed tv money and player sales….
    please no -one come back saying that money goes on agents fees wages and general running of the club cos these players should be £600 tops

  • 117 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    John, there’s all that as well, yes.

    Doesn’t quite add up.

  • 118 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    mark as i have said since just after christmas nothing is assured in football and 1 side usually goes on a downward spiral
    i hope to god it aint us

  • 119 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    it goes to show if we did drop that he has gambled his money and lost big time

  • 120 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:47 PM

    would serve the asshole right

  • 121 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM

    hasn’t the spiraling already started?

  • 122 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    yes but it look slightly better all the bottoms sides just drawing lately but you never can tell

  • 123 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 20, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    This gap between us and the clubs below means nothing really. Plenty of games for them to catch up. Especially as we don’t know how to create chances in the box properly.

  • 124 mindshaft // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    To be able to sell something you need to have a buyer – to be able to sell something for way more than its value you need a mug
    Freddy Shepard found the latter whilst Ashley can find neither

  • 125 Markaccus // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM

    John

    Luckily we are 9 points clear of the next three teams. So hopefully that means we can play a bit more positively.
    There is only 8 points between bottom and 10th place, so i think any of the clubs below us will be pulled into it before us.

    Our next four games are Villa (H) Hull (A) Fulham (A) and Palace (H). id expect 8 points at least from that lot.

  • 126 mag // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    Two strikers on loan no playmaker, Championship centre halves, no wingers a league one calibre manager.

  • 127 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:23 PM

    but if the worst should happen
    inability to score goals (which you need to win games)
    a players revolt ,well just playing and not trying
    or trying too hard (sayloring if you like)

  • 128 DokToon // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:26 PM

    gmorning all, from the sober side of the pond :)

  • 129 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM

    mornin hickory

  • 130 Mister Tuff // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    People should remember that Mr Tubbs initially stated that he would bank roll the Toon for £20 million a year -once it was financially stable, but then after the threats (alleged) that he and his family would be attacked – he then publicly withdrew his £20 million ban roll offer. So this summer -the spending money will be what is in the pot and nothing more.

  • 131 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    as we are hardly equipped to get draws i see trouble ahead

  • 132 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:33 PM

    well thatll be buggar all he has been p1551ng in the pot

  • 133 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:35 PM

    still makes me laff
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSXzRWlL7Z0

  • 134 south coast toon // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:37 PM

    i for one dont mind us not being champions league,
    what i do mind is not competing in games
    dropping players that seem to be better in the team than the players who replace them mym comes to mind
    not buying players to replace sold players
    playin players who are leaving when other players are here
    pardew our season is over play the players who will still be here after the summer and if ashley aint digging deep this summer walk you spineless ecuse for a man

  • 135 John Tudor // Feb 20, 2014 at 4:38 PM

    pardews replacement
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgQld_0vyEU




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