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Pardew – This Lad Did Terrific On Sunday

9:30 am, Wednesday, February 26th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 74 Comments

We  thought that Paul Dummett’s corner kicks and one or two free kicks were very well delivered on Sunday against Aston Villa, with that cultured left foot of his.

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Paul Dummett – did well from his set plays

And it seems that Alan Pardew was delighted with the local lad, who took over the corner kick duties from the player he replaced in the team – Davide Santon.

This is what Alan Pardew told the Shields Gazette today about Dummett’s performance:

“Young Dummett did terrific, I thought.” “He was under a lot of pressure to replace Davide. I thought he did very well.”

“The set-plays were an up,” “We actually looked like we might score from a set-play because the delivery was very good from Dummett – that was a bonus.”

And with Paul’s good form, it seems that he will keep his place in the side, but it was also revealed that Davide Santon has a knee injury, and has seen a specialist about it.

Davide is a doubt for the game at Hull City on Saturday, but the best he could do would be to be on the bench, and he wasn’t a sub on Sunday, presumably because of the niggling knee injury.

And if Paul continues his good form, he could even be the starter at left back for the rest of the season, and that would not be good news for the 23 year-old Italian International, who could be on his way out of Newcastle this summer, if that happens.

Newcastle also have young left back Massadio Haidara at the club, signed a year ago, and the French U21 International has already shown he can do a good job for Newcastle in the first team, when he gets a chance – and he’s one for the future.

What do you think?

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Tags: Coaching · Davide Santon · Massadio Haidara · Paul Dummett



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74 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 26, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    TS

  • 2 croftus5678 // Feb 26, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    cant say i noticed too much tbh but i do think he has the 2nd best cross from the wing we have in the team and also a very good shot on him (dare i say move him onto the wing or is that way to obvious ?)

  • 3 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 26, 2014 at 9:37 AM

    Oops

    TS

    They obviously told him that last summer. So my issue is that they didn’t have a replacement lined up willing to join in Jan. Sure, they could have demanded Cabaye stayed but he’s already shown how poor he performs when he’s not happy.

  • 4 croftus5678 // Feb 26, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    @3 tds

    i’m with you there mate

    if we had forced him to stay look what happened before !
    imo they new that was going to happen 6 month’s before when it all happened and they publicly anounced he was there main target.

  • 5 cestriasteve // Feb 26, 2014 at 9:42 AM

    Croftus, he’s too slow for me and Pardew won’t play with out and out wingers, interesting to see what he does on Satuday just De Jong up front with gouffy and remy out wide.

  • 6 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    TDS

    agree that once they say he can leave then he has to be allowed (providing the offer is right)..my issue was them telling him he could leave in jan and then not replacing him.

    Even somebody like holtby on loan, who went to fulham, would have done me if they wanted to keep money for the summer.

  • 7 The next Mike Williamson // Feb 26, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    I’m not sold on him, but he needs a ten game run before we can see him match-fit and confident. I prefer Haidara.

  • 8 archaeomag // Feb 26, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    I thought it was a good debut from Dummett, put in a lot of crosses, always looking to progress, and set pieces looked better.

  • 9 Hatem's better than Messi // Feb 26, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    Send your season tickets back.

    Lets get him out.

    NUFC isn’t our club its his.

    Don’t support NUFC until he goes.

  • 10 North Atlantic Magpie // Feb 26, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    I’d choose Haidara over Dummett any day. Dummett is too slow.

  • 11 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    where is haidara anyway? not featured for a while now

  • 12 WWSBRD // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    There isnt much between Dummett and Haidara in all fairness however Dummett doesnt get injured as often and is a local lad. Both should be getting games though I doubt Santon will be on the bench for that long

  • 13 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    TS

    Yes. Holtby could have been the fallback position and surely he’d have preferred to join us? Unless Spurs didn’t want him to join us? At the time we were still in a position to challenge them.

  • 14 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    WWSBRD

    I know a lot won’t agree with me but I’d have santon out the game for a month or so, make him really work on shooting, crossing, freekicks, corners (seeing as they like him taking them) and then bring him back in on the wing.

    he goes past people quite well, could press high up and coming in off the wing at the back post has good height to offer something of a goal threat, his shooting and crossing are wayward but i’d hope he can work on that.

  • 15 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    TDS

    I guess we were but doubt they have seen us a genuine challenge but im sure they would have thought with holtby we’d have more chance of taking points off their rivals than fulham do.

  • 16 toon kk // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    The whole clubs in a mess at the moment, everything from Mash not knowing anything about football and penny pinching to player’s either not good enough or not pulling there weight, to fans simply being fed up with good reason.

  • 17 WWSBRD // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    Sage
    I wouldnt have Santon as LB for a while either mate but I think he will be back pretty soon. As for the converting him to a winger thats a lot for him to work on and I can only imagine he isnt the most dedicated trainer considering how his defensive abilities havent really changed all that much since he joined…equally he might just not be able to improve I dont know

    Atm though we have no real wingers so who knows, Id be surprised if he was deployed as a winger in the near future though

  • 18 croftus5678 // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    @14 ts

    i dont think dummet/hairdryer are a million miles away from santon if not on par with him already tbh !

    like you said santon’s got his faults and so have the other 2 but i’d like to see santon cover rb instead of lb as he does tend to look uncomfortable some of the time when deb’s is out.

  • 19 martoon // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Hatem’s better than Messi @9 Great idea let’s send our season ticket back and p*ss away £700 not to mention next year’s that I’ve started paying for. Funny how these ideas are only suggested by people who watch dodgy streams!

  • 20 geordielad880 // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    Side to face hull:-

    ————————-Krul

    ————-willo——collo—-m’biwa

    Debuchy———————————–Haidara

    ————————-tiote
    ———sissoko——————-anita

    ————–gouffran——-Remy

  • 21 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    TS

    But we could also have challenged them for a EL spot. Why risk it? I’m just pointing out that it’s not as simple as some people think it is. We couldn’t have just loaned him like in a computer game. Maybe Spurs didn’t want him to join us, maybe he didn’t want to leave London for just 6 months, maybe Pardew doesn’t rate him, maybe JFK convinced people that he was going to be able to bring someone in and then it was too late…

  • 22 ToonDarnSarf // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    No way has anyone seen enough of Dummett or Haidara to judge properly. The leagues are littered with players who looked good in the PL at 21 or 22 but were found wanting and dropped down the divisions. Santon is young too, some people forget that.

  • 23 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    “The board explained that the January window is disruptive for clubs and that there are far more options available to it in the summer window.”

    Didn’t they say the opposite in the summer about how they do much better in the jam window?

  • 24 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    TDS

    I understand it’s not simple, he was just an example of the type of player that was available. There were a lot of good loans/cheap sales done in january which would have certainly helped us if we had been involved in.

    Not saying we would have gotten them, just we needed more options than the expensive 2 we went for in france.

  • 25 beefman13 // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    I thought Dummett did terrific, if any of our players had the nous to attack the six yard box we could have caused a lot more problems, the lads deliveries were spot on for me, i really wanted him to take the free kicks as well, left footed left backs are gold dust, this lad is a real good honest pro, and he does not waste the ball any where near as much as Santon!

  • 26 cyprus // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    He played well enough but Haidara is probably better. Where is he?

  • 27 geordielad880 // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    beefman13, i have watched the youth sides and reserves also, and he has played central midfield a couple of times also, and he is decent there aswell, he is a good pro, if we are not going to give him at least 10-15 starts a season plus subs, i think needs loaned out though, its a critical time for him

  • 28 Slank // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    toon kk @ 16

    ‘…Mash not knowing anything about football….’

    Almost all people who have made enough money to squander on buying football clubs have made their money on commercial activities outside of football.

    Do you think all the Yank owners, Arab owners, Indian owners, East European owners are the great fountains of football knowledge? Of course they are not. They know how to run a business and football is a business.

    Why is it that former football players, managers, coaches and pundits who profess to know the game don’t own Premiership Clubs? It’s because they have never managed a business and become successful and extremely rich because of it.

    You do not need to know football to own a football club.

  • 29 Mister Tuff // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    Just to add a bit of clarity /fact.
    Dummett is 22 years old
    Haidara is 21 years old
    Santon is 23 years old
    In order to suggest a baseline for comparison :-
    Luke Shaw is 18 years old
    and oh whats this Kyle Walker is 23 years old.

  • 30 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    slank

    to run a club successfully you need to know a lot about football, or hire the right people who do know the game, how all the little details work and to have the right contacts.

    Ashley wouldn’t get some guy who ran a small corner shop to run sports direct…heck he wouldn’t give llambias a big job at SD.

  • 31 Slank // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    Sage

    Totally disagree about needing to know about football to own a football club.

    Yes, you need people in the club who know about football that goes without saying but an owner only needs to know how to manage a business and in this respect they already do as that is how they made their money sufficient enough to squander some of it on a football club.

  • 32 toon kk // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    Slank
    difference is Mash runs the club and has the final say in everything that happens.
    a lot of owners of other clubs leave it in more capable hands.

  • 33 Mister Tuff // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    slank – perhaps you do not consider that players/managers have been either playing football or managing it for the majority of their lives -and have become wealthy. But their wealth shades into insignificance -when you accept that now you need to be a billionaire to purchase a club.
    Perhaps that is the true reason they are not owners of top clubs.

  • 34 Slank // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    Sage

    The chairman of Sports Direct is a firmer miner who became a policeman who then became the drugs czar under Blair.

  • 35 Slank // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Toon kk

    You know this for a fact?

  • 36 Slank // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Mister Tuff

    Yes, that is one of the reasons but it doesn’t hide the fact that an owner doesn’t require a detailed knowledge of football.

    In fact it is a good thing because they would only meddle.

  • 37 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    slank

    Football is different though, you don’t run it like a normal business as you can’t expand and move the same way a normal business can, also the goal is not to make a profit but for everything to be reinvested into the club. There are laws like FFP which don’t apply to businesses.

    And that guy running SD is fine…he clearly knows how to manage a retail company, my point was that you don’t hire people who are out of their depth, like llambias and he wouldn’t hire him at SD.

    The owner doesn’t need to know football, but it helps, the main thing is having advisors/consultant who do know how to do things and to follow their advice, something we don’t seem to do.

  • 38 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    or if we do follow the advice then the people giving it are not fit for purpose.

  • 39 toon kk // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    Slank

    Why do you think every owner knows nothing about football and runs there club like Mash?

  • 40 Mister Tuff // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Sage -come on lets not kill off our equivalent to the “American Dream”.
    Restricting vacancies for top jobs to those qualified to do so would never allow “the little man” to get to the top. We would never see the likes of glaziers or people who manage Sunday league teams hitting the big time ……………….oh just realised something ————–scrap what I’ve said.

  • 41 catchy in norway // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    “The set-plays were an up,” “We actually looked like we might score from a set-play because the delivery was very good from Dummett – that was a bonus.”

    laughing my tits off at this one,

    hmmm cabaye took all the corners, and yet he now comes out and says we actually looked like we might score one,,

    sounds like he don’t train much on them

  • 42 Mister Tuff // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    Kieth Hellawell – is the ex chief constable/ drugs Tsar hired by Ashley as Chairman.

  • 43 Slank // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    Sage,

    Yes, i agree that football is different but then not all businesses are the same. There are variations specific to industries but there is nearly always certain fundaments.

    When looking at ‘knows about football’ the distinctions need to be qualified. Does he need to know about the offside rule? Does he need to know about the refs rule book? Does he need to know about the pros and cons of a 4-4-2 formation against a 4-3-3 formation? Almost certainly not to run a club and pay all the staff. He probably needs to know the Financial Fair Play rules as that will be an important input to his forward financial planning. He needs to be excellent at negotiating but that is probably one if the reasons why a club owner is extremely rich. There are almost certainly quite a few attributes that an owner needs and knowledge of football is possibly not one of them.

  • 44 pawl250 // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    Mister Tuff

    1. Shaw is a very unproven player. He is all left foot and although he has had an impressive season he is still very very raw.

    2. Kyle Walker had one good season. He has since, been very average. I would go as far as saying he would not make my World Cup team.

    Although Santon, Haidara and Dummett do not compare to the BEST left backs in the world they do a job. And some clubs would love to have that standard of left back never mind 3 at their disposal.

    This cannot be a negative.

    Santon has been poor, and needs to re find his form from last year when he was arguably our best player at one stage.

    Haidara for me is the future, I just think the Mcmanaman challenge may have damaged the future he could have had. It certainly seemed to knock him down the picking order.

  • 45 Slank // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    Mister Tuff

    That is correct.

    He has done extremely well for someone who isn’t a sports retail trade expert because he had someone like Ashley who is generally regarded as the expert in the business sector

  • 46 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    slank

    I think there needs to be a basic understanding of how the league/cup systems work, how the transfer market works, etc etc….but I agree he doesn’t need to know about tactics like you say.

    What is important though as that people he puts in roles need to know how to do that job but also have the ability to stand up to the owner and say look, this is the way to go with things, not just agree to everything he says.

  • 47 Slank // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    Toon kk

    No idea but as you appear to know how all football owners manage their clubs and delegate perhaps you can tell me!

  • 48 Roy // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    “” manxpie // Feb 26, 2014 at 1:55 AM

    i might be wrong and jumped to conclusions but roy sounds like mag n the rest lol so apologise roy unless you are a troll

    we’ll see i’m sure!! “”

    Where has this come from I only asked a genuine question about where the money for the shirt I bought for my grandson goes to ie NUFC or SD.

  • 49 martoon // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Catchy @41 – You never miss a chance to have a go at Pardew. What he meant was since Cabaye left we have been poor at set pieces with Santon taking them – Dummett was a definite improvement.

  • 50 pawl250 // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    For me the Hull game should be 4-5-1 or to be technical 4-2-3-1

    ————————- Krul
    Debuchy – Williamson – Coloccini – Haidara
    ———– Tiote ————– Anita
    Gouffran ———- Sissoko ———— Remy
    ———————- De Jong

  • 51 Slank // Feb 26, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    Sage @ 46

    I agree with everything you have said.

    The reason I originally commented was that there are so many fans who spout complete rubbish which unfortunately or not is the very democratic nature of the Internet, but at least we agree having got down to particulars and specifics.

  • 52 Slank // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    Pawl @ 50

    What is your reasoning to choose Haidara and not Dummitt especially as Dummitt did well against Villa?

  • 53 Oldgit1 // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Just a quick question, but does anyone know if there is any up and coming AM in the under 21s or under 18s at this club that could be worth a punt. I only know of gosling there must be others.

  • 54 toon kk // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Slank
    get a grip mate or give Mash a ring, you clearly don’t know much so he may give you a job.

  • 55 kt97toonarmy // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    Pawl

    Goin defensive against hull? Really?

  • 56 Slank // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Toon kk

    I have just had an intelligent exchange with Sage who can articulate and provide reasoned arguments something you clearly cannot do.

    If you don’t know something either don’t say anything or if you feel you must say something try using appropriate words and phrases to let others know that you are expressing an opinion and not stating facts.

  • 57 mindshaft // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    Dummett did okay against Villa but still think Haidara is a better choice.

    I don’t think Pards actually likes picking foreign players over English players where he has an english equivalent even if they arent as good
    Another example of this is if Collos injured and Saylors fit he always picks Saylor over MYM

    And he’s always banging on about signing more english players

    Think Pards ideal is old fashioned hoofball tactics, 11 englishmen, big hold up centre forward
    Job done.

  • 58 mindshaft // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    It doesn’t matter who s taking the set pieces – all teams know we knock it to back post for Willo to head back into centre – Pards and his coaching staff must only train for that one set piece and given we rarely score a goal from it you would think they might try something else – it’s almost embarrassing when we get a corner / free kick

  • 59 Rotonda heights // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    mindshaft

    sadly so true at 57 and 58

    Don’t know if beating villas has done us any favours long term

  • 60 catchy in norway // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    martoon

    how can you be sure??

    when was the last time we scored from a cabaye corner ?

  • 61 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    catchy

    It was a home game where remy got the goal…quite a while ago.

    I think dummet’s corners were great, not floated to willo but whipped with pace into the 6 yard box, it’s what we should be doing.

  • 62 Mister Tuff // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    pawl -I posted the ages of the fullbacks basically to reveal Santon was the same age as Walker – and the younger ones to suggest if you are good enough you are old enough.
    I like Santon -however his defensive duties appear (currently) lacking. Properly coached (and supported by teammates) this lad could be a top player.
    As for “sauntering back” after the ball is lost – easy to solve -what he should do -he is instructed about busting a gut to get back -failure to do so results in no selection.
    People, some, slag him off,I have rarely seen a player who can keep a defender backing off, the defender knows he is going to cut inside onto his right -every time -but Santon still beats them time and time again. What he does next is the problem – coaching of him (and others) really should rectify this.

  • 63 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:40 PM

    catchy

    23rd november

  • 64 catchy in norway // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    Player- -team -goals -assists minutes played- minutes per G/A- games started- Sub-
    Mata– Chelsea- 32 -50 5741- 70 -113 -38
    Hazard- Chelsea- -27 -25 -4776 -91 -78 -19
    Coutinho- liverpool -6 -11 -1743 -102 -34 -5
    Gouffran- -nufc -10 -5 -1709 -113 -38 -5
    Nnasri- -man c -17 -25 -4793 -114 -92 -33
    Oscar- -chelsea -21 -14 -4163 -118 -70 -31
    Eriksen- -spurs -4 -5 -1073 -119 -18 -10
    Ozil- -arsenal -5 -11 -120 -30 -2
    HBA- -nufc -14 -12 -3524 -135 -54 -41
    Cazola- -arsenal -18 -16 -4872 -143 -128 -36
    Gerrard- liverpool -147 -126 -42646 -156 -558 -60
    Milner- man c -19 -33 -9445 -181 -112 -9
    Cabaye- -nufc -18 -12 -5497 -183 -87 -6
    Lennon- spurs -27 -59 -16535 -192 -260 -66
    Silva- man c -18 -12 -6782 -226 -95 -14
    Henderson- liverpool -12 -12 -7715 -321 -99 -35
    Sissoko- nufc -4 -6 -3718 -371 -47 -1

  • 65 catchy in norway // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    TS

    don’t get me wrong on this

    I thought our corners where a huge step forward

    my point is that when was the last time we tried something different,
    again, pardew was forced into this

  • 66 mindshaft // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:48 PM

    @Catchy – Sissoko ois a defensive midfielder who Pards insists on putting on the wing – he does a lot more than assist or score as he has a defensive duty first and foremost – not sure we can slag Sissoko off on these stats just because we aren’t utilising his skills correctly (although I personally don’t rate him that highly)

  • 67 catchy in norway // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    my little list there is to prove that HBA is not as bad some think,
    infact given the no of games he has started , if the list is sorted into games started then minutes per goal or assist, he is fifth on the list

    if as a team we are looking to score goals, both him and goofy are our best supply lines even with cabaye here,, and my honest opinion on cabaye is, he would be up there with MAta if he played higher up the pitch, but for a lot of games, he sat along side tiote as DMC
    what a waste

  • 68 mindshaft // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    TS – Think Dummets corners were better but all the toon players seemed to be expecting a floated ball to Willo – didn’t Dummet tell them he was going to try something else

  • 69 catchy in norway // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    mindshaft

    I did not do this to slate anyone on the list, I believe he is a very good player in the wrong position,

    but should he be in the team at the expense of someone who is up there with the very best in the prem when it comes to creating and scoring

    sissoko takes a lot of shots along with tiote and santon, that go no where near the goal

    pardew turned Jonas into a poor DMC and is turning sissoko into a poor winger, for no reason other than he can

  • 70 Transfer Sage // Feb 26, 2014 at 12:58 PM

    mindshaft

    maybe that was the plan just dummet kept ‘miss-kicking’ the ball into dangerous areas at pace.

    Catchy

    I agree also we are slow/static to adapt to our failing corners…what annoys me is the only time we have scored from set pieces (other than directly) is when they have been put in at pace and not to willo. Remy scored off a corner to back post in 6 yard box, gouff scored rom a cabaye free kick where he just whipped it into a dangerous area at pace.

    It’s almost like we use the same set piece from when pardew started which was float it to carroll who would win 9/10 headers but instead we use willo now and it simply doesn’t work.

  • 71 mag // Feb 26, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    See how Pardew copes with Hull City.

  • 72 beermonkey // Feb 26, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    with 11 games left of the season
    both hadiara and dummet should be given those games

    dummet next 5 hadiara last 6
    santon has been in good form at time this season but he has suffered loss of form and confidence

    he in the next 11 games should be given time at right back he is right footed after all
    debuchy is prone to the odd red and mbiwa is no fullback,
    although I don’t believe munich want debuchy he has matured and we could well see good bids with a healthy profit come in for him, if we lose him in the summer we can just shift santon right and let the 2 leftbacks fight it out
    I would also try santon out on the right wing

  • 73 Reggie // Feb 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    Good call BM, we need to start building for next season so why not start now with Dummett and Hadiana and others?

  • 74 James RS // Feb 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    Disagree…yes Dummetts crossing was quite good but did you notice how Villa kept pressing down the right hand side in the first half and targeting Dummett thinking he was the weak link at left back…and in fact forced him into quite a few errors in doing so; (dont think the lad is Premiership standard yet) until Pardew changed it a half time. Yanga Mbiwa and Haidara may prove better choices. Santon is technically better than all of them but might be better in midfield. Bring Ben Arfa back into the fold too!




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