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Pardew Wanted To Sign English International Last Summer


Alan Pardew has revealed in the local papers today, that he was interested in signing Tom Huddlestone of Tottenham last summer, and it’s true that a few years ago, we also seemed to be interested in the now 27 year-old English International central midfielder.

huiddlestone hull loan

Tom Huddlestone – on loan at Hull for the season

It seems the Newcastle manager could also  have some serious transfer money to spend this summer, and Alan says he wanted to sign Huddlestone last summer:

“Huddlestone was a player I really liked.” “He was someone I would like to have brought here and he has proved at Hull what a good player he is.”

“He didn’t come close to joining Newcastle really. It was more discussions about a player who would fit well with the way I play.”

“You have to take your hat off to the Hull Chairman and the way he backed Steve with the two strikers.” “Both are not 24-year-olds, they are senior strikers. We looked at Long for a period and I liked him.”

Hull signed Croatia striker Nikica Jelavic from Everton and Irish striker Shane Long from West Brom last month – so they strengthened their side while Newcastle weakened theirs – by selling Yohan Cabaye.

And that statement from Alan Pardew suggests he is not in charge of the players Newcastle want to sign, and he is just one voice of about five who confer on who to bring into the club  – but Mike Ashley’s likeness for signing younger players seems to rule the roost.

That’s even though it would be beneficial sometimes to sign more experienced players like 27 year-old Huddlestone – who has played well, along with Spurs’ other midfielder 24 year-old Jake Livermore,  both on loan at Hull this season.

And there’s a subtle reference there from Pardew to Ashley wanting to sign younger players – like 24 year-olds.

We suppose the Spurs midfielders will both be available in the summer, and therefore Newcastle could bid for the two Englishmen – but somehow we don’t think that will happen.

And the main reason is there is a premium to pay on both the transfer fee  and on the wages to sign Englishmen in the Premier League – as contrasted for example with players from France – that’s  just a comparison right out of the blue. 😀

Look at younger Frenchmen coming through the door this summer, although they don’t have Premier League experience and will take more time to settle in England.

What do you think?

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87 comments so far

  • the truth will out

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #41

    Previous billboard Post
    why sell one or two at a time
    sell the lot and be done

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  • mag

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #42

    @40 to fill the squad with rubbish?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #43

    mag

    the squad isn’t full of a rubbish though…mbiwa, debuchy, tiote, remy, sissoko, (cabaye til he left), gouffran….all good prem league level players.

    No scout gets everything right, look how many players ‘fail’ around other sides too.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #44

    mag

    carr is just part of it, when he is limited to find players for a small amount of money what can he do? can’t pick the better ones then.

    And he’s just one scout, the manager wants proven prem league players but he isn’t allowed them as you need to pay.

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  • Ciaran

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #45

    Also, I hope it is not lost on people that at the last Fans Forum, the board claimed that our strength in the transfer market relates directly to matchday revenue – a simple scare tactic from the club to force wavering fans into renewing their season tickets and to keep trundling through the turnstiles at SJP.

    This completely undermines what the club has said before when they claimed that we could not make any signings due to our commercial revenue being weaker than other clubs – which, incidentally, is only the case because Ashley and his tacky sweatshop do not pay for advertising.

    The club are desperate for people to renew their season tickets, which is why they are scaremongering. Anyone who thinks that Ashley does not care if we boycott is deluding themselves.

    However, by all means, renew your season ticket, keep going to games if your justification is that you want to support the team – it is an admirable reason.

    However, do not do it and justify it by saying “The club won’t be able to sign players unless I renew my season ticket” – the club won’t sign the players we need regardless. Time to wake up and stop falling for their lies over and over again. We’re not stupid and gullible like the club think we are, so let’s stop acting like it.

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  • mag

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #46

    @43 you’ve just answered your own question,the players are all internationals so where’s all the decent young players Carr has scouted?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #47

    ciaran

    that is a poor statement from the club, no doubt finances from tickets do come into it as over the season it’s close to 30mil from ticket revenue, which is still a big chunk, but agree even if some stay away they should be spending…they had close to 50,000 every game so far and failed to spend.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #48

    I second that notion Ruddy 😀

    Harrumph!

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  • the truth will out

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #49

    Spot on ciaran a super analogy

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #50

    mag

    his job might be scouting first team players though, not kids….we simply don’t know what he is tasked with doing.

    Even though they are internationals, or all close to it, you still need to scout well to make sure there abilities and skills will fit in with the league and team.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #51

    I don’t get the idea of everything would be a lot better with Pardew choosing his own players… Huddlestone, Long, anyone.

    At his previous clubs he has had more of a say and still got his sackings and record poor results. That won’t suddenly improve now he’s here and can choose his battering rams that run all day.

    He is very lucky that Graham Carr is getting the best he can find for some paltry budgets by Ashley.

    Good players can achieve a certain level at times just for being who they are. I.e. a level of individual ability which can dig the team out a result, when overall they don’t deserve it.

    Pardew wants the older ‘senior’ players because he can’t develop the young ones properly.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #52

    laurent

    I think the key is balance, don’t let pardew pick everyone but let him have some he feels would help the team, let him fall on his own sword or kick him out…don’t do what we currently do and give him no say but keep him.

    Long is a good player I feel.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #53

    70TWO, I’ve noticed the softening up technique a lot from him since he’s been here. Yet we still end up being hammered.

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  • mag

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #54

    So anyone with a free weekend in France could do the same job as Carr does watching established internationals and recommending them to Pardew.

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #55

    There is a compromise if it can be organised; do not take your seat until the players come out onto the pitch.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #56

    mag

    Not exactly, still got to be able to assess the characteristics and ability of the player, but in general yes…there are thousands of people who scout for clubs in the prem league around local football leagues, especially juniors, it’s not a massively difficult skill.

    All I’m trying to say is that Carr, working within our budgets, seems to have good contacts to know about low priced players more so than a lot of clubs who pay big money for players who are no better.

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #57

    Laurent Robert 32 @53

    It must be jealousy from our own players, or the continuous urge to wretch.

    Perhaps that is what Pardew is doing in his note book, drawing heats with initials and slipping them under the changing room door!

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  • the truth will out

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #58

    Even take your seat when the players leave the field

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  • toon22

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #59

    The only reason Mashley cares about the season ticket fiasco is because he has turned them into an asset.
    Bet it looks good on the balance sheet all those 10 year season tickets he robbed from trusting fans.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #60

    Transfer, he could have whoever he wants, but if he can’t make them a fluid, cohesive unit, then he’ll be found out through lack of goals and a clueless offensive plan.

    Teams need interlinking foundations and understanding. If I build a castle on quicksand, it will sink, no matter how strong the walls (players).

    The foundations are made from the manager and the coaches on the training pitch to make the players know what each other will do BEFORE the ball gets to them.

    They stand like statues on match-day because they obviously don’t work effectively to the required standard when practicing. The buck stops with the manager. Yet there’s Martinez, Rodgers and even Poyet (at the time the worst team in the league) all implementing a style and improvements in the team as a whole.

    Sign who you like, it makes little difference when the right foundations aren’t in place.

    Players like Remy and Cabaye with their individual capability get him out of jail after poor performances. That is not how good teams are built. It doesn’t matter which players are brought in. It just keeps silver tongue in a job for longer.

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  • toon22

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #61

    Imho it starts before AP,with Mashley hes not interested in the same things the fans are.
    How can any manager ever turn it around with him as owner?

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  • catchy in norway

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #62

    Hayley

    once a tool always a tool, we know you carnt help it, you have a mental block when anyone tries to talk sense to you

    stats are there to be looked at, a tool (like you) to help explain something, it is now very clear to me that these words I write are complicated for you, your acting like a spotty school prefect trying to be teachers pet ( teacher is pardew) he tells you one thing and you follow his words to the letter,

    I am betting that you even believe pardew was after TH from hull..

    what a TOOL

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  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #63

    repost

    Mike Ashley could easily take out 20-25 Mill out of the club in the summer and could still leave the club a Transfer kitty of around 35 million.

    But I think that in previous seasons he would have been happy with that sum his GREED has increased and he would not let club achieve its true potential. Ever!

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  • toon22

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #64

    The only managers we could attract are similar to the last few we have had,damaged goods.

    Simple reason is any manager with ambition wouldnt touch us with a barge pole.

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  • mag

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #65

    Yes we’ve seen Carr signings Marveuax £60k a week for what and the great Amilfatano missing in action.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #66

    A few of Alan’s words on his notepad…

    ——
    * This must be what Jose does, so I’ll do it as well. It looks like I’m taking notes when really, I haven’t a clue. You’re looking good today, Alan. You are the best.

    * Freekick – aim for Williamson.

    * Corner – aim for Williamson

    * Defend – Hatem can score at the end. If not, scapegoat him in the press.

    * Defend – Hope Cabaye can score from a freekick or long shot.

    * Defend – Hope Remy can score from a loose ball or long shot.

    * Keep players back, no overlaps allowed in central areas.

    * Everyone stay in their areas of pitch, no covering.
    —-

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  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #67

    LR

    is there anything on Shola?

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #68

    Laurent Robert 32 @60

    I think we would all agree.

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  • fray bentos

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #69

    Coming on here is like bathing with monkeys

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  • the truth will out

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:55 PM

    Comment #70

    £200 he wont start sat

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #71

    the truth will out @58

    Your a bad’en!

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  • mag

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #72

    The whole setup reeks of cheap penny pinching, more league one than Premier league which suits Pardew.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #73

    mag

    marv gets nowhere near 60k a week. And if he was, it’s not him making the contracts, that would be the idiots at the club.

    laurent

    Agree the manager sets them up, it’s a massive problem but if they don’t trust him to know what he needs they shouldn’t keep him in the job really.

    Some man utd player (possibly RVP) complained about moyes saying he doesn’t let the midfielders get beyond the ball, they have to stay behind it and as such are a poor threat…so it does show how big an impact setting a team up can have.

    It’s much more than formations that people sometimes seem to think.

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  • the truth will out

    Feb 28, 2014 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #74

    70 two what’s the point taking your seat just b4 kick off . Better still on tv games just go in well late show it on tv i bet we would miss nothing exiting

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  • the truth will out

    Feb 28, 2014 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #75

    exciting even

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Feb 28, 2014 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #76

    @60

    lol

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  • mag

    Feb 28, 2014 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #77

    60k a week due to his being a freebie!

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Feb 28, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #78

    sorry not 60 69 🙂

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 28, 2014 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #79

    HD

    I’ll have a look…

    Ah, another couple..
    ——-
    Shola, I love you. *hearts* *hearts* -note to self… must drop card in his locker after game-

    Defend – bypass midfield to Shola – hope for a fortunate knock down – hope for a long shot by Cabaye or Remy.
    ——-

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 28, 2014 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #80

    Transfer, that’s very interesting about Van Persie saying that. Very unlike him to miss that good chance in Olympiakos as well. Week foot or not.

    Lack of chances in the final third puts more pressure on the striker throughout the game. Doubt, then becomes involved, as does fading of confidence and actual in game practicing and honing. All aspects to Cisse’s game which have degraded due to his misuse.

    The is a process involved for historically good players to then not perform as well.

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