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Should Pardew Be Fired – Surprising Poll Results

1:28 pm, Monday, March 3rd, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 73 Comments

With all the negative comments being written about Alan Pardew’s behavior at Hull City on Saturday, when he showed both himself and Newcastle United Football Club up, we decided to take the pulse of Newcastle fans, and ask if he should be fired as Newcastle manager.

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Alan Pardew – fans don’t want him fired

And with over 1600 votes in so far,  72% think he should keep his job – so more than two in three Newcastle fans think the manager should retain his position as manager of Newcastle

We’d like to get as votes in as possible – one vote per reader – so if you haven’t already voted – here’s your chance.

Should Alan Pardew Be Fired For His Behavior At Hull?

  • No (76%, 3,167 Votes)
  • Yes (24%, 980 Votes)

Total Voters: 4,147

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Even though the majority of fans don’t want him to be fired, they are still furious at what Alan did, because he shamed the good name of Newcastle United around the world, and we are now waiting for the verdict on him from the English FA, who have said they will take immediate action.

It’s now up to Pardew to ensure in the last 10 games of the season Newcastle do very well, and if he is banned then make sure there is a good workable plan in place to get his messages out to the players, whether or not he’s allowed in the stadium at Newcastle’s games.

It’s the very least Pardew can do after what happened on Saturday.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Newcastle News · Other News · Poll · Premier League



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73 responses so far ↓

  • 1 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:32 PM

    Why can’t you vote on the mobile site??

    The results aren’t a surprise at all, fans aren’t idiots buying into the overblown media hype of the situation…

  • 2 croftus5678 // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    @1 tads

    agree

    overblown rubbish to have a go at us banning the media.

  • 3 stuart no9 // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    i think everyone has to look at the bigger picture really. ok pards gets 10 games , lookm on the bright side – now we may have a chance of getting into europe. teah pardew will still run the team but not having him there on pitchside writing down whatever it is he writes down all the time , and with a change of staff in the dugout we could win a lot more games

  • 4 Transfer Sage // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    tads

    I personally don’t go along with sacking but I don’t think those who do are being over the top…the manager should control himself and it’s not his first time he’s done something stupid.

    I think the club giving him an official warning, fine and letting him do anger management is a good way, gives him a final chance and also the ability to improve his behaviour/mentality.

  • 5 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    @ Tads

    Most people want him gone for footballing reasons (me included) and head-butting an opposition player is the final straw .

    In all my time watching the Premier League I have never seen a manager do that and this is just another negative to add to his long list of negatives at NUFC .

    If you think finishing 5th once justifies Pardews behaviour here and all of the abysmal records he has broken then you are delusional .

  • 6 Transfer Sage // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    stuart

    I never get the criticism of him writing…brendan rogers does it, nobody at anfield minds.

    It’s just a stick to beat him with.

  • 7 BeeGuy // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    Pardew has a right to be a prick in the tech area, Mylor’s throwing AP off to one side should have been the red card, had AP done a dive.
    Makes me wonder why AP did not get on better with Joey Barton, they go at the world in the same way it seems.
    If AP is banned from the club for some period of time, why not let John Carver fill the role, but bring in “guest coaches” each week? NUFC could start with Sir Alex Ferguson, and go on from there.

  • 8 70TWO // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    CPS will not prosecute Pardew as the incident did not involve a member of the public or cause a problem with public order. The Professional game of football is governed by the FA and it is for them to decide the punishment in relation to which of their own rules has been broken.

  • 9 Mister Tuff // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    BREAKING NEWS. VIDEO SHOCKER EXCLUSIVE.
    It is emerging that Percy “Ram-bo” Parsnip has been studying a shocking video – some observers think he has been influenced by watching this violent video and now likes to referred to as Ram-bo.
    A video shocker:-
    Link:-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehXqrshVre4

  • 10 Markaccus // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    FFS!!!! Why do people insist on claiming that ANYONE here is condoning Pardews actions, of excusing them in any way???

    Name me one person who thinks he should not be punnished???

  • 11 Generic Commenter // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    People will remember the Norbert Meier incident which is very similar. The difference is the two involved rolled around to make a big show of it. He ended up getting the sack but the team were not in a good position in the league either so it was a good opportunity to get rid and not have to pay out. Pardew shouldn’t be sacked, but what an idiot!

  • 12 Transfer Sage // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:50 PM

    70two

    Not 100% true, The police investigated the incident between terry and anton ferdinand, if it’s reported they could investigate.

    I don’t think there’d be enough for an assault conviction, very minimal contact and provoked too….there may be some minor public order offence though.

    But again, this sort of things happens all the time with players and the police are never called in or asked to be.

    Pardew was a moron though.

  • 13 csonka // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    What PArdew did is very wrong but people should get a grip.
    If Pardew gets a 10 match ban then the FA are saying a Headbutt is worse than racism and every player guilty of headbutting next year should also get the same treatment.
    What did Saurez get for a second biting offence, now ask which is worse?

  • 14 beermonkey // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:53 PM

    sack him for football reasons yes
    this no

    plenty of stuff goes on in the tunnel between managers the refs and players its just never caught on camera
    most goes un-punished
    pards deserves his ban and his fine and should be made to take anger management classes

    lets put this to bed asap and get on with football

  • 15 70TWO // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:54 PM

    Rake

    Not only did de Jong have a fantastic game and deserved a goal, but the whole team played really well as a cohesive unit. All thoughts of Cabaye hopefully banished from their conjoined mindset (urgh!) The position he played certainly highlighted the need for a strong and technical player to control the ball in the attacking half. It allowed supporting players to utilise space in forward positions and working off the ball with Remy to apply pressure gave the team the opportunity to establish their defensive formation.

  • 16 Transfer Sage // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    I think Pardew is a lucky boy this happened in a game we won at a canter, if it had been a home derby defeat he may have walked for it.

    But this moment of madness has taken away from what was a great game plan over the game and the players did brilliantly and looked very good as well.

    Hopefully we can kick on and keep pushing, beating two teams in villa/hull is great as they are desperate for points and we could be on the beach really…..good return to form.

  • 17 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    BPC
    “If you think finishing 5th once justifies Pardews behaviour here and all of the abysmal records he has broken then you are delusional .”

    By all means show me where i have said that, or even justified his actions for that matter

    He will be rightfully punished

    As for sacked for footballing reasons, what footballing reasons would MA use to sack him exactly?
    He’s on course for the seasons target without any permanent signings and losing the clubs star player

    Sage
    The reactions completely over the top, it happens week in week between players in every league in every country
    By all means ban him, no one can argue that, but the media coverage is an absolute joke as is the fan reaction
    We’re these same fans calling for Cabaye’s head when he shoved over that ball boy? No, why? Was an equally aggressive action caried out on a minor

    Rake from previous
    Thought LDJ was brilliant mate
    Said before the game i hope he partners Remy as they clicked immediately and look a great partnership
    Tiote absolutely bossed midfield and have Anita more of a free role in which he looked extremely impressive
    The whole team were fantastic so it’s hard to single out a best player, the lads were brilliant
    Hopefully we can carry this performance on now and have a march for Europe

  • 18 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 3, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    De Jong would have scored yesterday if Sissoko’s pace didn’t get him to the ball first .

    Nice to see a striker following shots in at the keeper and something I haven’t seen Cisse do very often .

  • 19 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    Sage
    The police got involved with Terry due to it being a televised match at a time where the issue of racism was at the height of debate

  • 20 70TWO // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I did try to find any previous incident where there had been a criminal charge relating to assault and could not find one, which led me to my conclusion.

    Despite any perceived excuse, even Pardew knows he deserves all the expletives and the sooner the punishment is announced and served the better for all concerned…….except!!

  • 21 croftus5678 // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:02 PM

    getting bored of this now !!!

    there was no headbutt he squared up to him ! the player as said made a lot more contact on pards than pards did on the player yet he’s scott free because ofc its pards also with relation to the anger factor who looked the more likely to cause damage pards of the player ? the player had to be held back by two people and pards was not if i remember correctly.

  • 22 Transfer Sage // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    tads

    I do think it’s different when a manager, so can understand the thought behind sacking him, especially given the previous.

    But like you say, if we were top of the league I dare bet not as many would take the moral high ground.

  • 23 70TWO // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    Who is up for a vote on wearing the Newbrazil kit for every away game?

  • 24 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

    Sage
    Don’t reckon there would be any near the amount of coverage if we hadn’t banned nearly every press association

  • 25 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    70TWO
    And home game ;)

  • 26 Transfer Sage // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    70two

    I think the police can be involved but they never do in sport, as the victim never wants to press charges a lot of the time (the case being the ferdinand terry situation where race was involved).

    Most players just dont care….in rugby players are stamped on, punched (properly as well, not like a prem league punch) and eye gauged quite often and it goes no further than disciplinary action by the sport.

    You are right in that it never goes to court, it could, but nobody is remotely bothered.

  • 27 SpaceGhost // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    I do not condone Pardew’s behavior. He made a bad decision yes but Myler is a neanderthal thug. A thug that used to play for Sunderland. Which most tv pundit failed to pick up on esp Shearer. Class player, shit pundit. This is not the 1st time that Irish thug tried this. Makes my blood boils watching this vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyFSZhT17z8

  • 28 Transfer Sage // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:08 PM

    tads

    And that’s where the club fall down…poor communication with fans and media leads to more speculation (the thing they try to avoid) and anger.

    All brought on themselves

  • 29 toon kk // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    Croftus
    very true. Had it been Furgie, all the headlines would have been the way he was provoked and how terrible it was for a player to push a manager.

  • 30 Markaccus // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    ……..to carry on from my previous comment, as i have give it plenty of time…..

    Nobody? Yep, thats what i thought.

  • 31 70TWO // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I think because it is seen as being within the confines of the sporting arena and subject to the legislation of a governing body, which then answers to Parliament. Police action is generally only required where there is a complaint or public disorder. Anyway, it is disillusioned people that are calling for extreme sanctions and I include pundits.

  • 32 davis_toons // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    Pardew have proven himself that he deserve to stay.

    Remember last season those French and Neth players at the club was just so new. Now they have each a season in them playing football at this level at our club. (In short adapted)

    And Alan Pardew have not done too badly. And even after Cabs his Captain is gone.

    Some are fair enough to give him a chance due to last season and Christmas have past we are not at the bottom or anywhere near that area.

    He SHOULD continue to work with Mike A.

    Like the Special One Pardew does have something in common…

  • 33 70TWO // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    Markaccus

    Take the week off, you deserve it.

  • 34 Transfer Sage // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    70two

    Also if a player doesn’t want to press charges then there is little to do (for such minor incidents), usually it’s six of one half a dozen of the other as well.

  • 35 hadthetshirt // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    @20 try doing that to a policeman and see if they class it as a headbutt or let you off..That was his intention.It isnt the first time he’s been in trouble on the touch line.

    He wont get sacked or walk so were stuck with him.A big fine from FA and a long touchline ban.The guy has no class whatsoever.As you can tell I dislike the guy,but sack him for football reasons, if he ever gets sacked.
    It boils me to see all this about him even on MOD that’s all they talked about,hardly a mention of how well the team did.That’s the reason it boils me we get front page Again instead of back page and how well the team played.Every single player did well on Saturday.

  • 36 70TWO // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    On current form I wish we were playing Everton this weekend. Will Pardew get the players in on Saturday just the same, as it seems to have worked in regard to results and actually looks like they have been practicing together.

  • 37 Markaccus // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    70TWO

    Was just making a point. No one is defending pardew here, yet there are people insisting that some are. It is rediculous.

  • 38 Whumpie // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    Big Papa @ 5: “Most people want him gone for footballing reasons”. Do you mean “Most people who do want him gone do so for footballing reasons”? If so, fair enough. If you’re suggesting that most people just want him gone, sorry but that’s completely against all the polls and research. Most recognise that given all the shite from upon high, we’re very lucky to have someone mad enough to keep at it and delivering results.

  • 39 the truth will out // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    you cant defend the indefensible we all know pardew ideas on defending

  • 40 Markaccus // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:33 PM

    The police themselves sometimes press charges, but usually only in cases of more serious assaults. This was a minor incident in comparison. If you do it to a copper, your bound to be in hot water. It is always worse when you attack those who are meant to be keeping the peace.

  • 41 Transfer Sage // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:35 PM

    markaccus

    spot on, with minor incidents like this unless the victim reported it and wanted it followed up they would do nothing and also i doubt anything would happen seeing as there was a bit of shoving off both.

  • 42 Whumpie // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    I’m wondering why I’m being relatively supportive here. I think AP was a pratt – again – yet I definitely still want him in our dugout. (Perhaps not the tech area, eh)

    Is it because we’re reacting to all the hypocritical guff and hype? The injustice that the thug of a player gets nothing (just praise for NOT cheating as would be expected according to his manager) but Pards is treated as if he’d attacked a litter of orphan puppies with a chainsaw?

    I’m honestly wondering: if this incident had been largely overlooked, would more of us be calling for his head on the basis that it’s yet another example of him failing to control himself?

  • 43 70TWO // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    Markaccus

    There is only one step from the sublime to the ridiculous.
    Napoleon Bonaparte

  • 44 Whumpie // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    Christ, if you prosecuted this, you’d need an entire courtroom dedicated to processing the fallout from every ice hockey game…

  • 45 Whumpie // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    Didn’t know that was Napoleon. Who says football banter lacks culture? :)

  • 46 Whumpie // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    Any idea when we may get a verdict from the Feck All?

  • 47 croftus5678 // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    @34 hadthetshirt

    they would not class it as a headbutt !
    this happens in my job all the time and it is not classed as a headbutt / abh or gbh the worst thing you can charge the incident for is intent to harm but 99% of the time if any of us tried to get someone charged with something like that they would laugh.

  • 48 Markaccus // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    70TWO

    If that little french bugger is getting involved too i am out of here :D

  • 49 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    Many ordinary people lose their jobs for doing what pardew did. It’s seems a shame that one moment of loss of control can lead to such consequences, but that’s how it is and that’s how it should be.

    How can the club and the prosecuting authorities seek to take criminal proceedings against the ordinary fan for stepping onto the pitch without any violence and yet allow the manager of Newcastle United to act violently in a sports ground with complete immunity from the criminal law? It is complete hypocrisy and sets a terrible precedent.

    Would the position be any different if the linesman had reacted in such a way to a player who pushed him? NUFC fans would be calling for a lino to be sacked and criminal charges brought if he butted one of our players. They’d also be saying that our player only pushed the linesman to get the ball in a hurry and meant no malice. There’s do much partisanship here. He may be a nutter but he’s our nutter is the chronicles headline. That sums it up.

  • 50 DokToon // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    mark…

    ive no problem at all with what pards did… a guy comes barreling into the tiny area you are only able to stand in… shoves pards with two hands, pards tried to matador him away, then got up in his face… big deal, pards didnt need to be shoved, sure he didnt need to headbutt the guy, but still, ive no issue with it, other than its makes the club looks a bit dumber than we already look with the owner….

  • 51 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    Whumpie

    It’s completely different to ice hockey. If pardew was a player getting bashed and bumped in an extremely aggressive game and he did what he did, nobody would be complaining.

  • 52 Markaccus // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    Blackley

    Look. I do see what you are saying… but surely you must recognise that players and managers do things all the time that would see people sacked from normal jobs. Your argument about the hypocritical nature of this incident actually covers all of football wotld wide.

  • 53 mag // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    Pardew has been mistaken for Putin by the media.

  • 54 Whumpie // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    B&B – I think you may be right there. I do wonder if the level of condemnation has been balanced by the level of resentment at all the shite and fake morality coming out?

    Also, let’s be honest: it was a non-attack. Only in football do we not acknowledge the difference between a real headbutt and what AP did. In any other sport it’s easy – if the bloke is on the ground with a broken nose, it’s a headbutt.

    This was nothing more than willy-waving; no different to what happens outside pubs every Friday and with no more likelihood of anyone getting hurt. Handbags. Idiots with handbags.

  • 55 mag // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    The only bruising was to Pardews wallet.

  • 56 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    It’s certainly helped the sentiment on here that pardew has won the last two games rather than lost another two in a whole series of losses. I doubt the national polls are as supportive as this one.

  • 57 Whumpie // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:56 PM

    B&B – you obviously don’t watch that much NFL. The managers are always piling in. :)

    And yes, they’re idiots too…

    I was at an imfamous match, though. The offending player had to be smuggled out of the building and went into hiding from the police. No charges – the victim came round in hospital and said something along the lines of, “Part of the game. Did we win?”

  • 58 Whumpie // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    oops – meant to include this: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDAQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sbrforum.com%2Fvideo%2Fmarty-mcsorley-hits-donald-brashear-v-4724%2F&ei=QJgUU6jvKKvMygO3m4K4Ag&usg=AFQjCNFLQPSnGMDrHW3XSugT_p-D7rbd4Q&bvm=bv.61965928,d.bGQ

  • 59 welshgeordie9 // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    Will we know today about the fa punishing pardew

  • 60 Markaccus // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    Dok

    Many people understand why he did it, but no one seems to condone it, even if it is just because it looks stupid. I think pardew needs to calm down, and deserves his ban (the player should get one) but the media witch hunt is pathetic.

  • 61 welshgeordie9 // Mar 3, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Not that i care

  • 62 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 3, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    I’m not saying he should be charged with an violent assault or anything similar, but simply the same as anyone else; a minor public order offence for which he would likely get a caution.

    It might actually give him a proper wake up call because he hasn’t learnt his lesson from the last time and is still defending himself today against souness.

  • 63 croftus5678 // Mar 3, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    @blackley

    you are correct on the way people get treat differently.

    do you not think with the player intentionaly running into pardew and pushing him out of the way was the first aggressive motion of the whole incident ?

  • 64 mag // Mar 3, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Football used to be a mans game for the working class, but now the liberal mid classes have taken over and turned it into ballet with shin pads.

  • 65 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 3, 2014 at 3:03 PM

    Whumpie

    Anything goes over there, a country where people are allowed to carry guns for self defence.

  • 66 Whumpie // Mar 3, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    Mag, I don’t think it’s the “liberal mid classes” – it’s just the same old gits but gits with money and TV contracts or press passes.

    Load of bollocks, coming from the same place as the rules outlawing any kind of tough tackling and giving yellow cards for taking your shirt off. All to distract from the cheating, corruption and money-grabbing BS that’s part and parcel of the Premier League.

  • 67 Whumpie // Mar 3, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    B&B – true, but nobody DOES carry one in Canada. Gun laws there are even more lax than in the US, but they just don’t get the shootings.

    It’s probably all the weed. Or that they prefer hockey sticks.

    The women have massive handbags. :)

  • 68 Mister Tuff // Mar 3, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    Blackley -you are doing it again – riding your horse at full gallop in the wrong direction. Thrown into the mix of offences at football grounds are loads of factors which you either do not know about or are ignoring -which the authorities consider before deciding whether to take action or not. You really need to research this subject more seeing that you have an interest. So there are issues such as, whether any injury was caused, whether it was a group action, whether there was a risk of escalation to name but a few. subsequently there are other CPS hurdles to cross -the full code test, the threshold test.
    Despite my best efforts at drawing such matters to your attention -so you yourself can look into them. You appear to revert to your original position (erroneous) and charge off into the sunset on your high horse. Please research the subject more.

  • 69 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 3, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    Markaccus

    Players do it all the time but it is a dangerous road to travel if managers are now made similar concessions as regards criminal conduct.

    If pardew escapes the criminal law of this land it will set an unwelcome precedent. I can’t think of anything similar in the english game in the last 20 years.

  • 70 NoClue-Pardew // Mar 3, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    Should make a poll where it says: Should pardew be fired… period. The hull incident may not be worth it alone, but he has done many things in the past aswell.

  • 71 Ferdinand von Prondzynski // Mar 3, 2014 at 10:27 PM

    If Pardew gets a 10 game stadium ban, which I think is on the cards, then this would change the situation fundamentally. A manager who cannot be at the game is of doubtful value.

  • 72 Sav // Mar 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

    Pui a cage-fighter cage in front of the Toon dugout for Pards to prowl in. Grrraaaarrrr!

  • 73 marshy // Mar 4, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    for footballing reasons he should definately be gone but then there is the problem of who fatash would bring in,probably jfk back so he’s the best of a bad lot.as for the incident if pards is charged so should the hull player be charged for assault because of the push he gave pards to get to the ball.




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