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Pardew Likely To Ask For Personal Hearing From FA Commission

12:10 pm, Thursday, March 6th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 145 Comments

Newcastle United manager Alan Pardew has until 6:00 pm today, to respond the FA charge of misconduct, but it’s almost certain that he will accept the charge made against him – when he head butted Hull City player Davide Meyler in the game at Hull last Saturday.

alan pardew butts david meyler

David Meyler and Alan Pardew last Saturday – oh my

However, the Chronicle is reporting today they believe Alan will request a personal hearing next week, in front of the three-man FA committee.

It’s an important meeting for Alan and Newcastle if that happens, because he will get a ban and the worst thing that could happen is if it’s a stadium ban he gets rather than just a touch-line ban.

Maybe the best thing that the manager can expect is a five  game touch-line ban, but the English media has been going crazy, some even suggesting a stadium ban through the end of the season would be what he gets, but that would be grossly unfair.

However, this is the FA in action, and you can never accuse them of being logical about anything they do, if history is to be any guide.

And if Pardew is requesting a personal hearing, then we’ll not know what ban he gets until sometime next week, so this thing will just drag on.

We just hope John Carver and the coaches along with Alan are getting to know how yo use those walkie-talkie sets – or if he gets a stadium ban – how he phones in from his home.

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145 responses so far ↓

  • 1 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    Just take the punishment instead of dragging it on.

  • 2 Jeff from Benwell // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    After 28 games with 10 to go
    Asenal and Liverpool are on 59 points
    Spurs in 5th place are on 53
    we are 10 points behind on 43
    Having looked at our 10 remaining fixtures I can see us getting 16 more points taking us to 59
    When we got 5th place 2 seasons ago it was with 65 points
    However my points tally is quite conservative
    If we play as we did against Hull for the next 10 games it is not inconceivable we could achieve Europe

  • 3 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    Mike Ashley, should back Pardew in the summer transfer window with some decent money, if he intends keeping faith with him.

  • 4 martoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    If he got a stadium ban it would be interesting to know what constitutes the stadium. For instance could he sit in the TV vans in the car park and watch the match from there? Will he be allowed to phone Carver during the match? etc.

  • 5 Sliema // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    Blah

  • 6 ethiotoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    hello fellas,i don’t think Alan Pardew deserves a sacking,nomatter what the outcome of the charges.i believe he acts stupid,and yes unacceptable as a Nu mgr,but we have to think interms of what he did for the football club.he shows he can build a team,he can setup games perfectly,he can win games.i don’t think he did so much wrong this season as well as previously.i’m sure the clubs immediate reaction and the FA’s punishment will make him more disciplined from now on.we have to stand along side him.i believe we have a good mgr,we can achieve many things with him.mike knows about this no doubt.we’ve long-term plan wid him,remember.
    consequently,we should hire a new DOF now,to turn things around early b4 summer rolls.everything’ll settle down as usual.lets have some faith and be pardewed for the moment
    proud to be geordie

  • 7 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:41 PM

    martoon…They could have pardew send messages to Carver through the electronic advertising boards on the side of the pitch?

    “NUT HIM”
    “HOOF IT”
    “50% DISCOUNT AT SD”
    “FIST PUMP”

    Would make a nice change from seeing an Ashley company lining up the side of the pitch.

  • 8 70TWO // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/06/rb-leipzig-sending-shockwaves-through-german-football

  • 9 archaeomag // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    . . bored with this sponsored punch up between Loan Sharks and Pawnbrokers.

  • 10 martoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    Ibizatoon @6 – That is an excellent idea – let’s hope we don’t get a dyslexic operator or we could end up with a pist fump :)

  • 11 archaeomag // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    Ibiza
    Love it

  • 12 Novocastrian66 // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    I think a stadium ban is a bit much. The FA have to be balanced in their punishment and ignore the hype and rule on the evidence and be just.
    The ” string him up” brigade have to be ignored. Public lynching is illegal.

  • 13 jimmysmith // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    There’s loads of Managers have lost their rag in a moment of madness, and worse than Pards. Jeez, Cloughie’s come out swinging during matches once or twice, knuckling fans. Although in his defence he was almost certainly very, very drunk at the time.

  • 14 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    martoon…Although that could still tie in with the “nut him” instruction :)

  • 15 archaeomag // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:48 PM

    In the photo it looks like they are just having a good sniff of each other – could be an advert for Brute.

  • 16 archaeomag // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    In the case of a stadium ban – can we have a virtual Pardew Hologram in the stadium – big as you like – or that beyond our technology?

  • 17 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    arch…How’s tricks?

    Novo…I say we bring in the electric chair. He can stay in the stadium as long as he survives a pre-match shocking. Seems fair and reasonable and it’s entertainment for the whole family.

  • 18 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:55 PM

    ibiza

    I would love that…every time we score with Pardew missing a video of him fist pumping (followed by the classic batman comic book style “fistpump” (in the style of pow or thwack) appears on the hoardings).

  • 19 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    archae

    Would be good, a 100ft tall pardew fist pumping and screaming…..might finish Catchy off though if he had to watch that :)

  • 20 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:57 PM

    TS…I’m glad you’re on board with this. I also think Pardews notebook should be left in our technical area. His powers lie within the book, but shhh, don’t tell anyone.

  • 21 Mister Tuff // Mar 6, 2014 at 12:59 PM

    ibiza – good shout @ 6 -funny. Conjures up a pantomime comedy sketch of Percy issuing ridiculous/offensive instructions to Carver – I could imagine Percy communicating to Carver “stick one on the old c**t.”. Then the electronics malfunction and speed up -with Carver being unable to keep up. Just like a Benny Hill chase sequence.

  • 22 archaeomag // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    Ibiza – Still here – Scratching a living on the margins, while planning to take over the world…
    - I don’t post as much – too much idle negativity – I quite enjoy watching them trying to play football.
    . . and there is so much to enjoy on the margins – SO very very pleased for W@nga to get there logo all over the media.
    Please, Please can we have an advert where those ‘king puppets nut each other

  • 23 archaeomag // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    @Sage
    Combined with Ibiza idea, – we could also have Alan Pardew’s head whizzing round the advertising boards – perhaps following the play.

  • 24 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    Tuff…Well, it’s only taken me a few years, but thank you!

    I do think the only way we’ll ever get through the Ashley era, is to treat SJP as the greatest comedy club. Not quite what we all had in mind, but what ya gonna do?

    Arch…World domination is no easy feat. Last time I tried I got so close, but after 6 days I got a bit bored.

    There is a lot of negativity, although, a fair bit is justified imo. Every which way we look it seems to be a problem, apart from the sponsorship with Wonga of course.

    Loving the idea of that advert. Would be a great way to embrace their relationship with the club :)

  • 25 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:09 PM

    When is our next home game? We have a lot of work to do.

    First things first, convincing Ashley to remove some of his free advertising for a while. Shouldn’t be too difficult….

  • 26 archaeomag // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM

    Sat 22nd Palace next home – should a good open Game!!

  • 27 catchy in norway // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I would kill me :(

    I think we should just give him his p45 and say thanks for the memories

    I know you keep telling me, your not so worried about the performances, as long as he gets points,

    but what about all the bad records he has set in 3 short years ?

  • 28 archaeomag // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    catchy
    What the odds on getting the fans to wear Alan Pardew masks as a gesture of solidarity?

  • 29 Sav // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    Pards, you could try FirstRow.eu and I hope your connection is better than mine…

  • 30 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:23 PM

    arch…Palace? That should be easy enough, he says nervously :)

    Catchy…But just think what he could achieve within another 3 years! Come on, admit it, that makes you want to smile.

  • 31 archaeomag // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    Ibiza . . and we will be without our leader . .

  • 32 archaeomag // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    Sav – he could try nutjob.eu

  • 33 weg // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:32 PM

    Pist fump? Isn’t that the conclusion of a night out? Fump being a sound effect when you collapse!

  • 34 70TWO // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:33 PM

    BUY: Roberto Firmino

    http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/c5ukw7sk4eoe65dlsymwmq/Show/Player-Focus-Golden-Boy-Firmino-Awaiting-International-Call

  • 35 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    Who was the guy saying that pardspew deserved the same as fans who get criminal convictions? Was it blackly and brownie? Is,this him I wonder?

  • 36 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/699907608?-11058

  • 37 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    Hi by the way bloggers! Ain’t been on in a while, well infact I was hardly on in the first place! But how are we all doing :)

  • 38 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    arch…But we’ll have the ad boards and the 100ft hologram, so it’s all good mate.

    Average…Yeah, it was Blackley and Brownley. If it had been a proper headbutt, rather than a squaring up of two people meant to be on the field, then maybe I could start to see his point, but the incident, whilst stupid, was hardly that violent.

    Anyway, welcome back.

  • 39 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    catchy

    Yeh I know he has set some bad records but also set some good ones too.

    beating man utd away, beating them at home, beating chelsea, spurs…lots of good things too

    i agree i want better, he’s too inconsistent, but he’s not the worse we’ve had

  • 40 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 1:59 PM

    Yes I agree ibiza m8, all blown massively out of proportion! What do we expect though right? Everyone hates,us especially the southern press! The guy just sounded an awful lot like blackley, although blackley did say his was a telephone conversation and not a letter, but this would explain his preference for legal action (hard done by with a chip on his shoulder)

  • 41 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    Pardew should be sacked immediately for being useless and not for being violent.

  • 42 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM

    Average…I get the feeling with Blackley it’s more a case of a dislike of Pardew than anything else.

    Whilst it was a huge mistake, I can’t think too many people would be truly offended by what went down. If so, they must live an extremely sheltered life.

  • 43 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    Well well, what’s this?

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/9199129/everton-boss-roberto-martinez-plans-signings-if-they-qualify-for-europe

    Martinez, you know the guy would be such an improvement on Pardew, is saying that if they qualify for the EL, the club would need to go on a spending spree.

    So, for those who think Pardew is the greatest problem at NUFC, can you revise your list of replacement managers that would be willing to work under Ashley and his “style” of football club ownership?

  • 44 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    What? A stadium ban to the end of the season would be grossly unfair? Pardew should be facing criminal charges just like the ordinary fan.

    Because the fa convinced the police that they would take appropriate action, he’s going to be in a privileged position. If he was treated like your regular chav caught on national tv doing that, he’d have a criminal record and a three year stadium ban.

    If he were treated like some workers, he’d be sacked for getting a criminal record for violence. They should throw the book at him.

  • 45 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    ibiza

    Yeh people don’t consider the difference between and member of the public doing it and the position pardew is in.

    Providing the player didn’t want to press charges, which he didn’t, then there was nothing to look in to.

    Also given the nature and intensity of the incident, as well as the initial contact (and heavier contact) being from the Hull boy then I can’t see what case he ahs

  • 46 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    If Pardew, was serving up his favourite brand of league one football to his fellow cockneys, there’d be more than headbutts handed out.

  • 47 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    blackly

    in high powered positons people rarely get sacked for this in any category of business (mainly because at the top/elite level replacing people costs money and very few better/equal to chose from, where for your average job there are millions to chose from)

    Also the Hull lad doesn’t want to take it further (and should remy or any other player do such a thing be charged by the police?)

    It’s not in the public interest to charge him for this.

  • 48 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    This exact incident would not result in a criminal prosecution, not even get charged if it was a member of the public.

  • 49 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    Blackley…”Pardew should be facing criminal charges just like the ordinary fan.” – Is that based on the law or your opinion?

    TS…I have tried to look at the incident as neutral as possible and whilst I can’t find a better term than headbutt, it was hardly a headbutt.

    Even if that happened on the street, I would find it hard to think that someone would get a criminal record. People push and square up to each other all the time.

    I get the argument about setting a bad example, losing credibility and all of that, but criminal? Please.

  • 50 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    Sheltered indeed, Messrs Hanson and shearer spring to mind, although quite what Robbie ‘i want to be rambo’ savage was insinuating by dismissal is anyone guess because let’s face it, he hasn’t got a leg to stand on ( or is that his opponents) but anyway he’s going to take it on the chin and so he should! Football wise he is rather clueless and I believe just shuts his eyes and hopes for the best….or a headbutt! obviously once his cunning plan of…… Does he have a plan?

  • 51 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    Ibiza

    I get the feeling that it’s a like for pardew that some NUFC fans are saying the nationals are going OTT.

    I’d like to think I’d be supporting equal treatment whoever the manager was.

    The clubs and FA have gone to great lengths in seeking criminal sanctions to rid the game of violence and make football a family game. They’ve asked the police to take strong action and they’ve cleaned up the game through new criminal laws and full use of existing criminal laws. But they don’t want pardew to suffer them.

    Hoe can the the police and courts now command any respect and authority when they want to deal with any similar misbehaviour and violence? Pardew is now the benchmark.

  • 52 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    ibiza

    spot on…I have a friend who works doing charge advice for the CPS, who advise the police on cases..they say this exact situation would not get to court, and that’s a professional opinion.

    The dictionary definition of headbutt is an aggressive and forceful thrust with the top of the head into the face or body of another person.

    This doesn’t fit into that, it wasn’t foreful

  • 53 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    Average…What more of a plan do you want than “shuts his eyes and hopes for the best”?

    Honestly, there is no pleasing some people.

  • 54 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    Pardew and Ashley should have the Trades description act 1968 thrown at them for misleading the punters that they’re being entertained.

  • 55 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    Blackley…I disagree. I have seen people on this very blog, who normally can’t stand Pardew, who even say it’s OTT.

    I saw your comment the other day about what if it had been another manager who had done that to one of our own players…a very good question and one I have thought about.

    Bottom line is, I think this is being handled as the rules, regulations and laws set out, at least to the best of my knowledge, which I’ll admit is lacking in this particular area.

    I can’t understand why they would put these sanctions in place, as you say, and then just choose not to include Pardew. This indicates to me, that his actions don’t fit with what you’re discussing.

    Whether they should or not is a different deabte. Hence my question about it being law or your opinion.

    As for the Pardew benchmark…there has to be a joke in there somewhere.

  • 56 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    Ibiza

    Based on the law. Not for a more serious offence of assault because meyler didn’t want it. But for the minor public order offence. Section 5 POA 1986.

    I’d rather be fined £100k and get a stadium ban than a £100 fine and a criminal record, which joe public gets routinely for doing less.

  • 57 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    What on earth was I thinking? Silly me! Although I wouldn’t mind getting my hands on that little notepad he concentrates so much on, but I fear it would just contain rather graphic images of mike and/or Joe in positions of lust with himself hiding behind the sofa watching

  • 58 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    Blackley…As I said, I am no expert. Why is it then that no criminal charges are being made against Pardew?

    Are there other laws, regulations, rules etc that supersede Section 5 POA 1986 ( ’86 – great year which brought many great things).

  • 59 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    Average…Don’t worry, it happens to the best of us. It’s not always clear what his plans are, just like Ashleys, but we must always have faith! If not, things will just get worse or something like that.

    Just need to clear up, that if that sounded like a thinly veiled threat, it wasn’t, Ashley cares about the club and it’s well being.

    Now, about those images. I’m going to send you some links for some therapists. You have a long road ahead, but with the right support, I think you’ll be okay…ish.

  • 60 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    gmorning all,

    noticing some of the inmates have escaped the asylum… again…

    pardew being criminally sued for a supposed headbutt, is basically the same as internet bullying, so some of you should watch yourselves, or the blackley police will arrest you , as well as their commisioner…

  • 61 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    @58 is because he hasn’t broken the law, just brought the game of football into disrepute?

  • 62 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Dok…I would disagree. Pardews headbutt doesn’t even come close to internet bullying, which can be far worse imo.

    Anyway, good morning USA, I have a feeling that it’s gonna be a wonderful day….

  • 63 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:56 PM

    ibiza,

    was 1986 when you had your first adult beverage? or perhaps something of a more scandalous nature? :)

  • 64 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:56 PM

    ibiza

    The police stepped in for the John Terry incident with Anton Ferdinand, so it shows they will when they believe there is a case to answer.

    As I said earlier, my friend in the CPS said this exact case, if a member of the public, would be chucked out long before going to court as not in the public interest due to the nature and intensity of the act.

  • 65 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    mag…I guess that’s where this discussion is leading to. It would make sense, him not being charged as he hasn’t actually broken the law.

  • 66 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Ibiza

    The chief inspector told me it was a very fine line and he took into account that the fa were not pressing for it, happy to deal with it in house.

    The police shouldn’t be making decisions that are influenced by whether a person has a disciplinary panel that will deal with it. not everyone is so lucky.

    My whole argument hinges on the fact that any criminal conviction is an enormous stain on a persons character. You carry it for life and have to disclose it in so many areas. If you don’t share this view, you’ll not get where I’m coming from.

  • 67 MrMojoRisin76 // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    B&B
    Have you ever been a traffic warden in your life?

  • 68 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    ibiza,

    i apologize, i was being sarcastic… just love how some here think pards commited mass murder, when they are blind with their hatred for the man…. it wasnt even a head butt, it was an attmepted thank you kiss to the lad for letting us have a victory… just went horribly wrong :)

  • 69 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    The John Terry case was a thought crime of racism which was rightly kicked out.

  • 70 70TWO // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    “Following his red card in the final, Zidane retired from professional football and confirmed that he would not go back on his decision.[57] He was sentenced by FIFA to a three game suspension for his red card, but since he had retired from professional football, he agreed to complete three days of community service with children in one of FIFA’s humanitarian projects.”

    No mention of criminal action and the whole world saw that one.

  • 71 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Dok…Well, my Mum does like a drink, so maybe there was some alcohol kicking around?!? :)

    TS…Exactly. I can’t help but think if they had a way of making an even bigger example of Pardew, then they would.

    It just doesn’t stack up, based on what actually went down. If he had given him a proper headbutt, then maybe it’d be a different story.

    I reckon by seasons end we’ll see a manager giving a player a wedgie and someone will pull Pellegrinis hair…and yes, they should all be charged.

  • 72 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    Not this rubbish again, if pards was taken to court for this supposed headbutt then at least 1 player per game would end up in court for dangerous tackles and the like

    Basically any player who gets a yellow would be looking at a court case and a player who received a red would be up for a jail sentence
    Any manager that has been sent to the stands is potentially ‘causing a public nuisance’ and therefore a criminal offence

    Charlie Adams would be looking at a stretch for stamping on Giroud last weekend
    Shearer and Keane would probably still be in jail for their various offences
    Suarez would be on a life sentence

    Is this what you really want to happen…..

    What about the influence on kids you say….. I say, if thats influencing your kids you really need to look in a mirror and ask if your parenting skills are up to scratch

  • 73 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    blackley ,

    if i may point out an incident in the nhl, google marty mcsorley, who hit donald brashear in the head with his stick… he was suspended for the rest of the season, and given probation, but in that incident, did not recieve jail time…

    sport tends to police itself…

  • 74 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    mcsorley was found guilty of assault, mind you, in this incident

  • 75 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    Blackley…I understand that having a criminal record follows you throughout your life.

    I get the feeling that at the bottom of all this, is that you think it’s simply unfair that it doesn’t apply to Pardew?

    Where does that stop in football or people in any privileged position? We see it every day, politicians, footballers, company execs, bankers, the lot of them take the p*ss and get away with it. Usually as there are loop holes in which to do so.

    Anyway, we’re getting side tracked. For me, the incident was ill advised and stupid on Pardews part. However, he barely made any contact, let alone hurt the bloke, so your whole argument seems so far fetched it’s unreal. To me at least.

    Dok…Sarcasm? On here? Outrageous! :) That middle picture looks like they’re cuddling more than anything, the player is even stroking Pardews breast.

    Indecent behaviour in a public place…have them arrested!

    mag @69…Spot on. That was a case that needed to be stamped down on hard.

  • 76 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Pardew will be severely reprimanded by the overblown egos at the FA, and that will be that and then it’s onto the next game.

  • 77 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    i hate to agree with mag on anything, but in this case, he’s spot on…

    the FA seem to have a hard on for us, example, remy’s headbutt got three matches, and lifted the ban on the other player…

  • 78 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    This is pathetic, what you are saying is that any sportsmen on the field of play go beyond the rules of the game they should be dealt with in the same manner as someone on the street would be… man, think of how sport would look like if these rules were followed
    Football would be a totally contactless sport
    Rugby would be farcical with teams ending up playing 3 vs 4
    Boxing would last about 30 secs
    In almost any contact sport the rules are pushed to and beyond the extreme, sport is about passion
    If you don’t like it you should probably take up fishing or bridge or the like

  • 79 tequilamag // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    Blackley, you said you were happy with the Donachie outcome as the victim did not want to take further action. If that is the case and Meyler has accepted Pardews apology and did want to male a police complaint why is this case different to you ?

  • 80 Rainrix // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    Is everyone not getting sick of discussing the pardew “headbutt”? Must admit personally i was sick of hearing it right after the broadcast of motd. ;)

  • 81 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    mindshaft…I quite like the idea of no contact in boxing.

    Hours and hours of two men circling each other until one passes out. If one does dare throw a punch, they get carted off by the police….albeit a winner.

    As for fishing…that’s clearly a murderous act.

  • 82 tequilamag // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    Rainrix. sick of people being morally outraged on a selective basis.

  • 83 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    Rainrix…Hell yes. But what else is there other than the headbutt that shook the world?

    Did you see the Martinez wanting more players if they qualify for EL article? What a strange manager.

  • 84 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:21 PM

    I don’t even like Pards but to create a witch hunt and sack him because of this is clearly over the top for what actually was a stupid but trivial offence

    He’s an idiot and tactically naive, but last I heard these aren’t criminal offences and if they were most if us on this here blog would be in the nick

  • 85 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    @Ibiza – yeah I forgot the cruelty to animals act, could be worse tho http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wayne-bryson-sex-girlfriends-dog-3212462

  • 86 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    dok

    That’s an assault with a weapon. not pressing his head into a player, no force behind it and no damage caused.

    If he had full on headbutted the lad, injured him too then I’d be all to happy for the police to get involved and for him to be sacked…this was just him trying to be macho…no damage or even intent to damage the player.

  • 87 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    I love this bit….

    …….. and told he must never be alone with an animal again.

  • 88 Rainrix // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    Ibiza…. I felt it from here when it happened, the ground shook violently, i thought at first it was simply ashleys post greggs toilet visit.

    Martinez wants more players? haha that almost sounds like ambition, what a strange fellow.

    tequila…. Exactly but in fairness if pardew sorted the ukraine crisis he’d still be social pariah no 1 so we have to take it in stride really :)

  • 89 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    mindshaft…WTF…The worlds gone mad. I blame Pardew, of course.

  • 90 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    hahahaha

    “I didn’t think anything like that would happen around here. I’m just glad my dog doesn’t get out and we are careful with our animals.”

  • 91 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    tequila

    I’m the same…nobody called for remy to be sacked or charged by the police, nobody calls for every incident like this to be investigated.

    In real life the police would probably separate the pair of them and maybe chuck them in a cell over night if they were drunk…very unlikely they’d be charged when there is so little contact.

    Anyway that’s my final say on this matter, had enough of talking about it, takes away from the football.

  • 92 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Defo Pards fault, the lad obviously watched the headbutt and thought anythings game if Pards didnt go to jail for that

  • 93 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    Rainrix…Yeah, he’s muttering on about needing more players to cope with the extra games and something about international level of player too.

    I say give the bloke another CM and let him get on with it.

  • 94 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    ……a man in the public gallery shouted: “He is a beast, a dog has got no voice.”

    Errr it’s got a bark tho in this case the bark was clearly worse than its bite

  • 95 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Tequilamag

    I don’t know what’s happened with the donachie incident. I didn’t witness it either so its difficult to comment on the legal aspect. It will depend on complaints and witnesses and their reactions.

  • 96 stuart no9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    mindshaft —– headbutting is a criminal offence !

  • 97 70TWO // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    B&B @66

    “My whole argument hinges on the fact that any criminal conviction is an enormous stain on a persons character.”

    The answer to that is don’t break the law.

    Your real question is, when does violent conduct in public become a criminal matter? The law likes to keep things as simple as possible, there are plenty of precedents and it is dependent on severity. The complication in this case is that in this specific situation Pardew is not an ordinary member of the public due to his employment, which consequently effects the final decision.

  • 98 wolfshead@toon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    @82

    you mean the wums/trolls/mackems/wankers? hahaha

  • 99 wolfshead@toon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    @82

    you mean the wums/trolls/mackems/w@nkers? hahaha

  • 100 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    stuart – so is stamping on someones leg, and lunging at someone with two feet and standing shouting and swearing your head off, tripping someone up

    It’s a disgrace as if it had been Pards humping his girlfriends dog he wouldn’t have been charged etc etc

  • 101 Rainrix // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    ibiza…. The nerve of the bloke, has he not heard of austerity? Ambitious people are the scum of the earth, thats why we’re so blessed with pardew and ashley!

  • 102 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:32 PM

    Next time a mate tells he that he slept with a right dog the night before I’ll look at it in a different light and call the police…… unless it’s Pards of course and I’ll say well done mate

  • 103 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    Rainrix…Indeed, it keeps us humble :)

  • 104 Mister Tuff // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Folks who invade the pitch -can only be “dealt with” by the cops – for the offence of pitch invasion. No -other body investigates these types of offences. so it’s down to the cops alone.

    this is in contrast to the players and club staff who could be dealt with by the cops for criminal offences (if they determine so) and they can be dealt with by the FA for rule breaches -obviously this “lesser” mode of punishment is not available to fans.

    There are copious amount of info in ACPO documentation/CPS guidance which give examples as whether to prosecute or not. such as pitch invader shouting abuse or acting disorderly would get charged whereas some who make be on the pitch but “passive” would be appropriate for no further action.

    No replies required!.

  • 105 70TWO // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    The ‘Donachie Incident’ when put in relation to Pardew does make me feel uneasy as they both involve violent conduct. Yet the one which was not in the view of TV cameras has lost his job. I can only assume that the reports are true and that he chose to leave for his own reasons.

  • 106 stuart no9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    mindshaft @ 99 thats true – unless , the dog was better looking than his girlfriend ?
    IBIZA —- whats ibiza like in may ? we have an opportunity to go to es cana for a week . i have been to the beach in es cana but not in the town . any good??

  • 107 martoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    I really can’t believe we are still discussing this. In the case of Donachie he was suspended subject to an enquiry – he may well have got a warning and a fine as well but chose to resign instead. Pardew’s was hardlya violent assault and if you prosecute for that then you would prosecute for nearly every foul in a game! We all agree Pardew deserves reasonable sanctions from FA but talk of prosecution is ridiculous.

  • 108 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    I must be doing something wrong if fellow bloggers are agreeing with me.

  • 109 martoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:48 PM

    Stuart @105 – I’ve had a holiday in Es Cana – it’s a very nice resort and it is where the ‘Hippy Market’ is which I think starts in April after Easter.

  • 110 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:49 PM

    TS,

    i agree, just trying to show a bit of relevence… ill shut up now… stupid americans trying to talk football and all :)

    mag,

    yes, yes you are haha

  • 111 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:51 PM

    rain,

    what did you think of anchorman two?

    and hows your island ?

  • 112 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    Stuart…I’m not the biggest fan tbh, but that’s probably because I’m not on a family holiday. It’s certainly a lot nicer than San Antonio, but of a similar ex-pat mold.

    I tend to stick to the South of the island, but loads of people prefer the North.

    May is usually quite nice, but can be known to throw a few curve balls too. Ha, even my reviews on Ibiza have a fence sitting approach.

    Go for it and I’ll show you a proper headbutt :)

    Mag…Don’t worry, it wont last too long.

  • 113 yo-yo // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    Rember Duncan Disorderly anyone ?

    Now he did time in Barlinnie for headbutting (a proper one) AND got a big suspension.

    Wonder where he is now ?

    Wouldn’t be as team coach at Everton I s’pose.. :)

    Bl & Br

    If you went on and on and on about tax fiddling I might have a bit more sympathy with your views on the even handedness of the law but as we all know, there’s one rule for them and one rule for us and you might as well just accept it or get out there on the streets and man the barricades. But wait a minute… that’s what they did in Kiev and the government snipers picked them off.

    Using Pardew as a case for being heavy handed with the law is the wrong target and the wrong law…

  • 114 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    I must stop wearing this cravat,it’s making me sound relevant.

  • 115 Rainrix // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:55 PM

    Dok…. Well it was exactly what i wanted, which was more of the same. So i enjoyed it very much. Plus kanye west gets blown up by brick so it instantly goes down as one of my favourite movies. :)

    My islands been fine apart from this week. Pardews set a precedent so now everyone goes around lightly pushing their heads together. Its kinda like bulls in a field butting heads. In fact even the bulls are getting arrested, its pretty hectic!

  • 116 phatt knacker // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    Typical pardew

    he cant even get his ban “over the line”

    Dont think he will get off lightly mind as hes the first manager to go this far.

    5 match staduim ban is the least i expect

  • 117 70TWO // Mar 6, 2014 at 3:57 PM

    I am sure that in the lead photo Pardew is just so overwhelmed with two consecutive wins, scoring more than one goal away from home, not relinquishing the match in the second half and probably securing his job for another season; he is just really desperate for a shoulder to cry on. Having forcibly applied his head on to his chest and sobbing, Meylor can then be heard to say “There, there, everything will be alright”.

    A lesson for us all who are not employed to bring false hope, give Pardew* a chance. (*peace) sic :-)

  • 118 Rainrix // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    70TWO… Haha, honestly if you got rid of elmohamady from that centre picture it would look like a poster for a romantic comedy. Meyler especially looks like he’s enjoying having the silver fox’s forehead in his vicinity. :)

  • 119 stuart no9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:03 PM

    martoon — been to ibiza many times but only to san ann bay and the west end. been to es cana beach which is a wonderful place to spend the day . the hotel is called the fergus paraisio beach hotel and it sits rite on the beach, . i know it is a bit quiet there but is there any pubs and restaurants about. what is the hippy markret ?? who goes there ?

  • 120 stuart no9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:07 PM

    ibiza —— whats the difference between the south and the north , that gives you more of a liking ??

  • 121 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:08 PM

    Stuart…Definitely pubs and restaurants in Es Cana.

    For the hippy market, check out: http://www.ibiza-spotlight.com/news/2012/es_cana_hippie_market_i.htm

  • 122 70TWO // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    Rainrix
    I am sure Elmohamady whispered in Pardews ear something about turning his shirt inside out and being on the winning side.

  • 123 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:11 PM

    Stuart…The North is a lot quieter than the South. If you’re more in to clubs and bars, then the South is where you want to be. Basically, the South is for posers, like myself :)

    If you’re looking to relax, have a few days on the beach, hit some restaurants and pubs, then Es Cana will do you well. It’s a lot more chilled than San An, which for families is generally a good thing.

    For all things Ibiza, check out ibiza spotlight. Decent website.

    http://www.ibiza-spotlight.com/es_cana_i.htm

  • 124 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    if person want pardew out that much i have got a nice and polite way that we can use and that is ROY gets SACKED and HE becomes ENGLAND MANAGER.

    also B&B
    you can go a step further and take his headbutt as seriously as you are doing because the more crimes he does the lesser his chance of getting it becomes. harry rednapp the best england english type, should right now be the england manager, but the idiotic FA don’t know a thing about football and all they choose are yes men. Pardew hiself is the best manager their is who can be a yes man too and also he is English so if their is anyway to see much more agreement on having pardew out it’s that he should be the next England manager.

  • 125 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    That hippy market looks like a stoners nirvana.

  • 126 stuart no9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    ibiza —— wow , never heard of that before , never knew there was any hippies around anymore . last one i seen was at a bob dylan outdoor festival my dad took me to in the late sixties when i was about 12. thought they had become extinct when jimi hendrix popped his cloggs. you learn something new every day on the NUFC blog of culture .

  • 127 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    Ah yes, the ultimate of punishments! You sir, are to be England manager….

    muhahahahaha.

  • 128 Mister Tuff // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    70TWO -your post @116 referring to giving Percy a chance -has inspired me to suggest a new song (others do it and bore me so I’m getting my own back.)
    The song was written by John Lennon and performed by the Plastic Ono Band – and called “Give Peace a Chance”.
    Now amended to “Give Percy a Chance”..

    Everybody’s talking about
    Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism
    Ragism, Tagism, this-ism, that-ism
    Ism ism ism

    All we are saying is give Percy a chance
    All we are saying is give Percy a chance

    Everybody’s talkin’ ’bout ministers, sinisters
    Banisters and canisters, bishops and fishops
    Rabbis and pop eyes, bye bye, bye byes

    All we are saying, is give peace a chance
    All we are saying, is give peace a chance

    Let me tell you now
    Everybody’s talking about, revolution
    Evolution, masturbation, flagellation
    Regulation, integrations, meditations
    United Nations, congratulations

    All we are saying is give Percy a chance
    All we are saying is give Percy a chance

    Everybody’s talking about, John and Yoko
    Timmy Leary, Rosemary, Tommy smothers
    Bobby Dylan, Tommy Cooper, Derek Taylor
    Norman Mailer, Alan Ginsberg, Hare Krishna, Hare Hare Krishna

    All we are saying is give Percy a chance
    All we are saying is give Percy a chance
    All we are saying is give Percy a chance

  • 129 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:19 PM

    if person want pardew out that much i have got a nice and polite way that we can use and that is ROY gets SACKED and HE becomes ENGLAND MANAGER.

    Harry rednapp the best england english type, should right now be the england manager, but
    the idiotic FA don’t know a thing about football and all they choose are yes men.
    Pardew hiself is the best manager their is who can be a yes man too and also he is English, so if their is anyway to see much more agreement on having pardew out it’s that he should be the next England manager.

    also B&B
    you can go a step further and take his headbutt as seriously as you are doing because the more crimes he does the lesser his chance of getting it becomes.

  • 130 Rainrix // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:20 PM

    Ibiza…. I imagine its going to be an absolute blood bath over in ibiza this year what with the world cup and all that? Try not to drown in the inevitable tidal wave of bodily fluids my friend! ;)

  • 131 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:23 PM

    wish my english was as good as my maths

    If person want pardew out that much, i have got a nice, polite way that we can use, that is ROY gets SACKED and HE becomes ENGLAND MANAGER.

    Harry rednapp, who is the best england english type, should right now be the england manager, but the idiotic FA don’t know a thing about football and all they choose are yes men.
    Pardew hiself is the best manager their is who can be a yes man too and also he is English, so if their is anyway to see much more agreement on having pardew out, it’s that he should be the next England manager.

    also B&B
    you can go a step further and take his headbutt as seriously as you are doing because the more crimes he does the lesser his chance of getting it becomes.
    finally i think i got most it right sorry for the repeats

  • 132 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:30 PM

    QPR, announce 65 million loss and face a transfer imbargo.

  • 133 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    Mag….Ermmmm…no comment.

    Stuart…I’ve been over there about 10 years now and they are nearing extinction. For just £10 a month, you can sponsor a hippy.

    In return, you will receive a personalised tie dye t-shirt.

  • 134 Shadow_Shearer // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    I don’t care if Pardew gets a stadium ban for rest of season. I still expect the players to play for the club and the fans.

    If we win most of our games, who’s gonna remember Pardew was not in the stadium???

  • 135 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    as for the england game itself.
    well i decided to switch back over and watch the 1 day match between england and indonesia as the football was rubbish.

    but what i can say is roy picks players based on their clubs history and plays players OOP, pardew might do that at times but his squad is very limited roy has lots to choose.

    rooney is not an out and out striker he is a striker who plays like remy widish the out and out striker is sturridge who roy decided to put out wide.
    henderson plays a right midfield role for liverpool what he doesn’t play is a no10 or CM role like roy does with him.

  • 136 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:33 PM

    Or even an embargo.

  • 137 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:34 PM

    Rainrix…Blood, sweat, booze and semen….lovely, can’t wait :)

  • 138 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:35 PM

    Shadow…Seeing as when we win, it’s rarely credited to Pardew anyway, I don’t see what all the fuss is about.

    In fact, as he’s so useless, surely a stadium ban is favourable?

  • 139 mag // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:37 PM

    Give Pardew a stadium ban from June to July.

  • 140 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM

    Tuff

    FFS! Is there really no end to your talents? Hahaha!

  • 141 70TWO // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:44 PM

    toonking @130

    x3 and you say your maths is better! It was a good point the first time. :-)

  • 142 70TWO // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:45 PM

    Mister Tuff @128

    Go back to bed ;-)

  • 143 70TWO // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    mag @139

    Couldn’t agree more.

  • 144 70TWO // Mar 6, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    Ibizatoon

    Hippies or New Age Travelers were isolated from the rest of society with the rise of fence builders like yourself, I hope you take your responsibility seriously and provide a space for free thinking individuals at the bottom of your garden to redress the balance.

  • 145 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 5:13 PM

    “The criminal law doesn’t cease to operate once you cross the touchline of a sports field. Neither does being disciplined by an employer or a sport governing body make an athlete immune to the law.” Words of the Chief Crown Prosecutor in the Bowyer case.

    Section 5 Public Order Act 1986 is a weapon in the police armoury to deal with disorderly behaviour and hooliganism. It relates to the use of threatening or abusive words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour withing the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress. It therefore has a broad scope and a low threshold. That’s why you’ve got to be careful if you’re shouting and swearing, particularly in a sports ground. If you’re shouting and swearing and people around you get upset about it (even if it’s not directed at them), you can be arrested and charged under this section, and it does happen.

    The CPS guidelines say: “Where violence is used, it is not normally appropriate to charge an offence under section 5 unless the physical behaviour amounts merely to pushing or undirected lashing out of a type likely to cause no more than a glancing blow, minor bruising or grazing.”

    The CPS Prosecution Policy on Football Related Offences issued on 23 August 2013 states, “ACPO and the CPS will continue to operate a robust prosecution policy for football related offences during 2013/14 and beyond.”

    It is fair to say that, if a fan did what Pardew did in a football ground where alcohol is served, emotions run high, and there is always the potential for crowd violence to erupt, I would be more likely than not to be arrested and the police spotters in the ground would provide the cctv evidence to the court. Once it got to court, none of the defences to the offence would apply. It would be a done deal.

    Okay, it’s a minor offence. No more than a fine as punishment. But it’s a criminal record. Moreover, if Pardew can put his head into someone’s face, surely everyone else can? Or does it mean only Pardew and other sports people can because they will be disciplined by their governing body? Your brickie or joiner or unemployed person will just have to pick up a criminal record.




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