Newcastle United manager Alan Pardew has until 6:00 pm today, to respond the FA charge of misconduct, but it’s almost certain that he will accept the charge made against him – when he head butted Hull City player Davide Meyler in the game at Hull last Saturday.
David Meyler and Alan Pardew last Saturday – oh my
However, the Chronicle is reporting today they believe Alan will request a personal hearing next week, in front of the three-man FA committee.
It’s an important meeting for Alan and Newcastle if that happens, because he will get a ban and the worst thing that could happen is if it’s a stadium ban he gets rather than just a touch-line ban.
Maybe the best thing that the manager can expect is a five game touch-line ban, but the English media has been going crazy, some even suggesting a stadium ban through the end of the season would be what he gets, but that would be grossly unfair.
However, this is the FA in action, and you can never accuse them of being logical about anything they do, if history is to be any guide.
And if Pardew is requesting a personal hearing, then we’ll not know what ban he gets until sometime next week, so this thing will just drag on.
We just hope John Carver and the coaches along with Alan are getting to know how yo use those walkie-talkie sets – or if he gets a stadium ban – how he phones in from his home.
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145 comments so far
mag
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:10 PM
Comment #41Pardew should be sacked immediately for being useless and not for being violent.
Ibizatoon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM
Comment #42Average…I get the feeling with Blackley it’s more a case of a dislike of Pardew than anything else.
Whilst it was a huge mistake, I can’t think too many people would be truly offended by what went down. If so, they must live an extremely sheltered life.
Ibizatoon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:28 PM
Comment #43Well well, what’s this?
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/9199129/everton-boss-roberto-martinez-plans-signings-if-they-qualify-for-europe
Martinez, you know the guy would be such an improvement on Pardew, is saying that if they qualify for the EL, the club would need to go on a spending spree.
So, for those who think Pardew is the greatest problem at NUFC, can you revise your list of replacement managers that would be willing to work under Ashley and his “style” of football club ownership?
Blackley and Brownlie
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:28 PM
Comment #44What? A stadium ban to the end of the season would be grossly unfair? Pardew should be facing criminal charges just like the ordinary fan.
Because the fa convinced the police that they would take appropriate action, he’s going to be in a privileged position. If he was treated like your regular chav caught on national tv doing that, he’d have a criminal record and a three year stadium ban.
If he were treated like some workers, he’d be sacked for getting a criminal record for violence. They should throw the book at him.
Transfer Sage
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:29 PM
Comment #45ibiza
Yeh people don’t consider the difference between and member of the public doing it and the position pardew is in.
Providing the player didn’t want to press charges, which he didn’t, then there was nothing to look in to.
Also given the nature and intensity of the incident, as well as the initial contact (and heavier contact) being from the Hull boy then I can’t see what case he ahs
mag
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:30 PM
Comment #46If Pardew, was serving up his favourite brand of league one football to his fellow cockneys, there’d be more than headbutts handed out.
Transfer Sage
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:32 PM
Comment #47blackly
in high powered positons people rarely get sacked for this in any category of business (mainly because at the top/elite level replacing people costs money and very few better/equal to chose from, where for your average job there are millions to chose from)
Also the Hull lad doesn’t want to take it further (and should remy or any other player do such a thing be charged by the police?)
It’s not in the public interest to charge him for this.
Transfer Sage
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:34 PM
Comment #48This exact incident would not result in a criminal prosecution, not even get charged if it was a member of the public.
Ibizatoon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:36 PM
Comment #49Blackley…”Pardew should be facing criminal charges just like the ordinary fan.” – Is that based on the law or your opinion?
TS…I have tried to look at the incident as neutral as possible and whilst I can’t find a better term than headbutt, it was hardly a headbutt.
Even if that happened on the street, I would find it hard to think that someone would get a criminal record. People push and square up to each other all the time.
I get the argument about setting a bad example, losing credibility and all of that, but criminal? Please.
Average_Contents
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:36 PM
Comment #50Sheltered indeed, Messrs Hanson and shearer spring to mind, although quite what Robbie ‘i want to be rambo’ savage was insinuating by dismissal is anyone guess because let’s face it, he hasn’t got a leg to stand on ( or is that his opponents) but anyway he’s going to take it on the chin and so he should! Football wise he is rather clueless and I believe just shuts his eyes and hopes for the best….or a headbutt! obviously once his cunning plan of…… Does he have a plan?
Blackley and Brownlie
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:37 PM
Comment #51Ibiza
I get the feeling that it’s a like for pardew that some NUFC fans are saying the nationals are going OTT.
I’d like to think I’d be supporting equal treatment whoever the manager was.
The clubs and FA have gone to great lengths in seeking criminal sanctions to rid the game of violence and make football a family game. They’ve asked the police to take strong action and they’ve cleaned up the game through new criminal laws and full use of existing criminal laws. But they don’t want pardew to suffer them.
Hoe can the the police and courts now command any respect and authority when they want to deal with any similar misbehaviour and violence? Pardew is now the benchmark.
Transfer Sage
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:38 PM
Comment #52ibiza
spot on…I have a friend who works doing charge advice for the CPS, who advise the police on cases..they say this exact situation would not get to court, and that’s a professional opinion.
The dictionary definition of headbutt is an aggressive and forceful thrust with the top of the head into the face or body of another person.
This doesn’t fit into that, it wasn’t foreful
Ibizatoon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:41 PM
Comment #53Average…What more of a plan do you want than “shuts his eyes and hopes for the best”?
Honestly, there is no pleasing some people.
mag
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM
Comment #54Pardew and Ashley should have the Trades description act 1968 thrown at them for misleading the punters that they’re being entertained.
Ibizatoon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM
Comment #55Blackley…I disagree. I have seen people on this very blog, who normally can’t stand Pardew, who even say it’s OTT.
I saw your comment the other day about what if it had been another manager who had done that to one of our own players…a very good question and one I have thought about.
Bottom line is, I think this is being handled as the rules, regulations and laws set out, at least to the best of my knowledge, which I’ll admit is lacking in this particular area.
I can’t understand why they would put these sanctions in place, as you say, and then just choose not to include Pardew. This indicates to me, that his actions don’t fit with what you’re discussing.
Whether they should or not is a different deabte. Hence my question about it being law or your opinion.
As for the Pardew benchmark…there has to be a joke in there somewhere.
Blackley and Brownlie
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM
Comment #56Ibiza
Based on the law. Not for a more serious offence of assault because meyler didn’t want it. But for the minor public order offence. Section 5 POA 1986.
I’d rather be fined £100k and get a stadium ban than a £100 fine and a criminal record, which joe public gets routinely for doing less.
Average_Contents
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:49 PM
Comment #57What on earth was I thinking? Silly me! Although I wouldn’t mind getting my hands on that little notepad he concentrates so much on, but I fear it would just contain rather graphic images of mike and/or Joe in positions of lust with himself hiding behind the sofa watching
Ibizatoon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:51 PM
Comment #58Blackley…As I said, I am no expert. Why is it then that no criminal charges are being made against Pardew?
Are there other laws, regulations, rules etc that supersede Section 5 POA 1986 ( ’86 – great year which brought many great things).
Ibizatoon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:53 PM
Comment #59Average…Don’t worry, it happens to the best of us. It’s not always clear what his plans are, just like Ashleys, but we must always have faith! If not, things will just get worse or something like that.
Just need to clear up, that if that sounded like a thinly veiled threat, it wasn’t, Ashley cares about the club and it’s well being.
Now, about those images. I’m going to send you some links for some therapists. You have a long road ahead, but with the right support, I think you’ll be okay…ish.
DokToon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:54 PM
Comment #60gmorning all,
noticing some of the inmates have escaped the asylum… again…
pardew being criminally sued for a supposed headbutt, is basically the same as internet bullying, so some of you should watch yourselves, or the blackley police will arrest you , as well as their commisioner…
mag
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:55 PM
Comment #61@58 is because he hasn’t broken the law, just brought the game of football into disrepute?
Ibizatoon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:55 PM
Comment #62Dok…I would disagree. Pardews headbutt doesn’t even come close to internet bullying, which can be far worse imo.
Anyway, good morning USA, I have a feeling that it’s gonna be a wonderful day….
DokToon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:56 PM
Comment #63ibiza,
was 1986 when you had your first adult beverage? or perhaps something of a more scandalous nature? 🙂
Transfer Sage
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:56 PM
Comment #64ibiza
The police stepped in for the John Terry incident with Anton Ferdinand, so it shows they will when they believe there is a case to answer.
As I said earlier, my friend in the CPS said this exact case, if a member of the public, would be chucked out long before going to court as not in the public interest due to the nature and intensity of the act.
Ibizatoon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:57 PM
Comment #65mag…I guess that’s where this discussion is leading to. It would make sense, him not being charged as he hasn’t actually broken the law.
Blackley and Brownlie
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM
Comment #66Ibiza
The chief inspector told me it was a very fine line and he took into account that the fa were not pressing for it, happy to deal with it in house.
The police shouldn’t be making decisions that are influenced by whether a person has a disciplinary panel that will deal with it. not everyone is so lucky.
My whole argument hinges on the fact that any criminal conviction is an enormous stain on a persons character. You carry it for life and have to disclose it in so many areas. If you don’t share this view, you’ll not get where I’m coming from.
MrMojoRisin76
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM
Comment #67B&B
Have you ever been a traffic warden in your life?
DokToon
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM
Comment #68ibiza,
i apologize, i was being sarcastic… just love how some here think pards commited mass murder, when they are blind with their hatred for the man…. it wasnt even a head butt, it was an attmepted thank you kiss to the lad for letting us have a victory… just went horribly wrong 🙂
mag
Mar 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM
Comment #69The John Terry case was a thought crime of racism which was rightly kicked out.
70TWO
Mar 6, 2014 at 3:00 PM
Comment #70“Following his red card in the final, Zidane retired from professional football and confirmed that he would not go back on his decision.[57] He was sentenced by FIFA to a three game suspension for his red card, but since he had retired from professional football, he agreed to complete three days of community service with children in one of FIFA’s humanitarian projects.”
No mention of criminal action and the whole world saw that one.
Ibizatoon
Mar 6, 2014 at 3:00 PM
Comment #71Dok…Well, my Mum does like a drink, so maybe there was some alcohol kicking around?!? 🙂
TS…Exactly. I can’t help but think if they had a way of making an even bigger example of Pardew, then they would.
It just doesn’t stack up, based on what actually went down. If he had given him a proper headbutt, then maybe it’d be a different story.
I reckon by seasons end we’ll see a manager giving a player a wedgie and someone will pull Pellegrinis hair…and yes, they should all be charged.
mindshaft
Mar 6, 2014 at 3:02 PM
Comment #72Not this rubbish again, if pards was taken to court for this supposed headbutt then at least 1 player per game would end up in court for dangerous tackles and the like
Basically any player who gets a yellow would be looking at a court case and a player who received a red would be up for a jail sentence
Any manager that has been sent to the stands is potentially ‘causing a public nuisance’ and therefore a criminal offence
Charlie Adams would be looking at a stretch for stamping on Giroud last weekend
Shearer and Keane would probably still be in jail for their various offences
Suarez would be on a life sentence
Is this what you really want to happen…..
What about the influence on kids you say….. I say, if thats influencing your kids you really need to look in a mirror and ask if your parenting skills are up to scratch
DokToon
Mar 6, 2014 at 3:06 PM
Comment #73blackley ,
if i may point out an incident in the nhl, google marty mcsorley, who hit donald brashear in the head with his stick… he was suspended for the rest of the season, and given probation, but in that incident, did not recieve jail time…
sport tends to police itself…
DokToon
Mar 6, 2014 at 3:07 PM
Comment #74mcsorley was found guilty of assault, mind you, in this incident
Ibizatoon
Mar 6, 2014 at 3:07 PM
Comment #75Blackley…I understand that having a criminal record follows you throughout your life.
I get the feeling that at the bottom of all this, is that you think it’s simply unfair that it doesn’t apply to Pardew?
Where does that stop in football or people in any privileged position? We see it every day, politicians, footballers, company execs, bankers, the lot of them take the p*ss and get away with it. Usually as there are loop holes in which to do so.
Anyway, we’re getting side tracked. For me, the incident was ill advised and stupid on Pardews part. However, he barely made any contact, let alone hurt the bloke, so your whole argument seems so far fetched it’s unreal. To me at least.
Dok…Sarcasm? On here? Outrageous! 🙂 That middle picture looks like they’re cuddling more than anything, the player is even stroking Pardews breast.
Indecent behaviour in a public place…have them arrested!
mag @69…Spot on. That was a case that needed to be stamped down on hard.
mag
Mar 6, 2014 at 3:08 PM
Comment #76Pardew will be severely reprimanded by the overblown egos at the FA, and that will be that and then it’s onto the next game.
DokToon
Mar 6, 2014 at 3:12 PM
Comment #77i hate to agree with mag on anything, but in this case, he’s spot on…
the FA seem to have a hard on for us, example, remy’s headbutt got three matches, and lifted the ban on the other player…
mindshaft
Mar 6, 2014 at 3:15 PM
Comment #78This is pathetic, what you are saying is that any sportsmen on the field of play go beyond the rules of the game they should be dealt with in the same manner as someone on the street would be… man, think of how sport would look like if these rules were followed
Football would be a totally contactless sport
Rugby would be farcical with teams ending up playing 3 vs 4
Boxing would last about 30 secs
In almost any contact sport the rules are pushed to and beyond the extreme, sport is about passion
If you don’t like it you should probably take up fishing or bridge or the like
tequilamag
Mar 6, 2014 at 3:16 PM
Comment #79Blackley, you said you were happy with the Donachie outcome as the victim did not want to take further action. If that is the case and Meyler has accepted Pardews apology and did want to male a police complaint why is this case different to you ?
Rainrix
Mar 6, 2014 at 3:19 PM
Comment #80Is everyone not getting sick of discussing the pardew “headbutt”? Must admit personally i was sick of hearing it right after the broadcast of motd. 😉