Alan Pardew Requesting Personal Hearing Is A Sensible Move


At 6:00 pm today, the news that Alan Pardew had accepted the charge of misconduct was announced by the FA, but Alan Pardew will also seek a personal hearing, as was reported this morning.

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Alan Pardew – accepts charge of misconduct
This is the statement issued by the FA:

“Newcastle United manager Alan Pardew has admitted an FA misconduct charge in relation to his side’s game against Hull City on 1 March 2014.”

“Pardew was involved in an incident with a Hull City player in the 72nd minute of this fixture.”

“He has requested a personal hearing, the date of which will be set in due course.”

It seems it’s a good move by Pardew and Newcastle to seek a personal hearing, because they can lay out their case – that David Meyler shoved the Newcastle manager, and that’s what started the confrontation.

And the headbutt wasn’t a brutal one – rather he leaned his head into David’s face – and while that’s still completely unacceptable, it was hardly malicious.

The hearing will very likely be sometime next week, and then we’ll know the extent of Pardew’s punishment.

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277 comments so far

  • Ben3arfa

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    Comment #1

    hopefully a touchline ban no longer than 5 games

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:12 PM

    Comment #2

    “The criminal law doesn’t cease to operate once you cross the touchline of a sports field. Neither does being disciplined by an employer or a sport governing body make an athlete immune to the law.” Words of the Chief Crown Prosecutor in the Bowyer case.

    Section 5 Public Order Act 1986 is a weapon in the police armoury to deal with disorderly behaviour and hooliganism. It relates to the use of threatening or abusive words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress. It therefore has a broad scope and a low threshold. That’s why you’ve got to be very careful if you’re shouting and swearing, particularly in a sports ground. If you’re shouting and swearing and people around you get upset about it (even if it’s not directed at them), you can be arrested and charged under this section, and it does happen.

    The CPS guidelines say: “Where violence is used, it is not normally appropriate to charge an offence under section 5 unless the physical behaviour amounts merely to pushing or undirected lashing out of a type likely to cause no more than a glancing blow, minor bruising or grazing.”

    The CPS Prosecution Policy on Football Related Offences issued on 23 August 2013 states, “ACPO and the CPS will continue to operate a robust prosecution policy for football related offences during 2013/14 and beyond.”

    The CPS Guidance on this section states: “Police officers are aware of the difficult balance to be struck in dealing with those whose behaviour may be perceived by some as exuberant high spirits but by others as disorderly.” So that statement gives an indication of where this law is pitched.

    Bear in mind the club and FA have and will throw the book at him, it is so serious. If it’s that’s serious, it’s surely worthy of a small fine at the magistrates and a criminal record. I’m not asking for any more than that (the question of sacking is a completely different question). All I’m saying is that he should be treated the same as the next man.

    This happened in a football ground where alcohol is served, emotions run high, with the potential for crowd violence to erupt, and all in the presence of families. It is for this reason that the authorities take a tough line on any incidents of disorderly conduct and violence of any sort. You even get a fine, a criminal banning order and more importantly a criminal record.

    If Joe Public does what Pardew did, he would likely be arrested and the police spotters in the ground would provide the cctv evidence to the court. Once it got to court, none of the defences to the offence would apply. It would be a done deal.

    Okay, it’s a minor offence. No more than a fine as punishment. But it’s a criminal record. That’s teh important point.

    Now, if Pardew can put his head into someone’s face without getting a criminal record, surely everyone else can? Or does it mean only Pardew and other sports people can because they will be disciplined by their governing body? Your brickie or joiner or unemployed person will just have to pick up a criminal record.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:16 PM

    Comment #3

    GeordieTwo

    Don’t interrupt me when I’m arguing with myself

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  • toon22

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    Comment #4

    Blackie

    The police looked into it and said they werent going to press charges,or are you saying we should ignor the law
    ?

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    Comment #5

    * You even get a fine, a 3 year criminal banning order and more importantly a criminal record for stepping on the pitch and offering back your season ticket to Pardew.

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  • Average_Contents

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    Comment #6

    Wow you love it don’t you bnb!

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  • toonking

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    Comment #7

    repost

    Toon KK 63

    that is what the worst part about newcastle fans that are england fans.

    As we know to make any progress up the league table our club now has to spend lots of money on very talented players but are their many english talents? No, the best talents are foreign and those that are English are very dear. So we decide to spend lots of money bring in lots of foreigners, get what we want to achieve club wise, but it comes at a cost and the cost is, we make the england quality get worst and worst with less and less youth coming through.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #8

    Seems an appropriate time for a repost…..

    Toonarmydownsouth
    1 hr, 41 mins ago
    Evening gents

    Not sure if anyone has seen this…..
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/9194942/newcastle-manager-alan-pardew-will-not-face-criminal-charges-after-head-butting-david-meyler

    I’m assuming not as its still being banged on about for the 5th f*****g day in a row

    Ffs this used to be a decent banter based football blog now it’s the ramblings of some form of failed barrister prattling on about something realistically nobody gives 2 sh1ts about!

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  • welshgeordie9

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #9

    I hope pardew behaves himself if he gets a personal hearing

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  • Average_Contents

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    Comment #10

    5 days later and your still rambling on about it, I bet that chronic piece was you 🙂

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  • Average_Contents

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    Comment #11

    And before you decide to tell me not to read your posts if I don’t like them the fact of the matter is I tend to just read,the first sentence then skip 😉 although I do respect your opinion it’s getting a little tedious now 😉

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  • welshgeordie9

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    Comment #12

    Pardew for england

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #13

    Average
    A bit tedious?? Watching paint dry comes to mind!

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  • DokToon

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #14

    floppy chops should coach england…

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  • welshgeordie9

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    Comment #15

    Stand up if you love pardew
    Stand up if you love pardew
    Stand up if you love pardew
    Stand up if you love pardew

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  • GeordieTwo

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    Comment #16

    I’m all for Alan being forced to wear black and white tassles for the rest of his time with us. A punishment to suit the crime.

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  • DokToon

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:28 PM

    Comment #17

    g2,

    im all for teaching pards how to headbutt properly.. is george the animal steele available?

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  • Average_Contents

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #18

    Tads, watching pardew repeatedly beg for players is probably a more apt description m8

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  • JackButler

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    Comment #19

    “He has requested a personal hearing, the date of which will be set in due course.”

    Makes no difference as they will still throw the book at him which he can’t argue against

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  • Average_Contents

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    Comment #20

    Sorry I left out the most important part, then say we are “ok” ” in good shape”

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  • Average_Contents

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #21

    Well anyway it has been a pleasure never a chore fellow bloggers! Tea time in mine so laters all and be good little munchkins

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    Comment #22

    Toon 22

    Are you saying that the police don’t ever get things wrong? Bear in mind I had a long conversation with the Chief Inspector who made the decision, and he had to agonise over it long and hard. He was influenced by the fact that the FA were prepared to deal with it. That misses the point.

    Let me put it this way. Cut me some slack with this scenario and go with it as far as you can. Let’s suppose the FA were an ineffectual organisation, and the club had taken no action over this. Everyone would be turning to the police and saying this is not acceptable behaviour. You can’t do that sort of thing without adequate punishment. He should be fined at least £100,000 and get some sort of ban. We want you to take some action. What can you do about it?

    The police would say “We’ve got laws against that.” We could put him in front of the magistrates and he will get a small fine.”

    You’d ask, “Is that all for **** sake?”

    Police: “It is a criminal conviction. Getting a criminal record is a serious punishment in life. It is a major blot on your character. Surely you accept we can’t punish him under the criminal law any more than the next man who did that at a football ground? You do accept that, don’t you?”

    Of course, the position is not like that. Pardew escapes any criminal punishment because the police take into consideration the fact that he will be severely punished by his governing body.

    My view is that Pardew should first and foremost be treated like everyone else under the criminal law. In deciding his additional punishment, the FA should make allowance for the fact that he has been punished by the courts and given a criminal record.

    “The criminal law doesn’t cease to operate once you cross the touchline of a sports field. Neither does being disciplined by an employer or a sport governing body make an athlete immune to the law.” Words of the Chief Crown Prosecutor in the Bowyer case.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #23

    Come on now everybody support pardew

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  • GeordieTwo

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #24

    I still feel we need a strict German disciplinarian DokToon mate. Lightning quick attacks. Fantastic movement. Two or three Germans in the back 4. No lollygagging allowed. It’s the future of Geordie football. No more berets at the ground. Steel helmets and men of steel on the pitch. Beautiful.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    Comment #25

    It looks like I’ve stirred a hornet’s nest on radio Newcastle tonight.

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  • toonking

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #26

    B&B
    * You even get a fine, a 3 year criminal banning order and more importantly a criminal record for stepping on the pitch and offering back your season ticket to Pardew.

    we get your point you annoyed that pardew was not charged by the police when he did a headbutt but a fan will get all that for a shove with his season ticket.

    you should have thought about that before shoving your ticket into his face, our performances were winding you up but that doesn’t give you any reason to react the way you did, instead what you should have done was toss your ticket into the bin like what so many other fans do. the outcome of a crime we choose to commit won’t be known at the time it happens, but what we will know is what has happened to people in the past who have choose to do a simular crime.

    you choose to commit a pitch invasion and will have seen the fact that most people who do that will face long if not life time bans from that stadium.

    pardew choose to commit what was just a common assault drunken people on the street do this all the time and they are usually just split up by bouncers and kept apart until the police arrive and as long as the damage is not serious they will be just sent back to their homes. morineo poked a person in the eye and spanish might have some different laws but a poke in the eye will certainly be classed as a crime because the one thing that almost every european law must follow is the european court of human rights and a poke in the eye will certainly be in them laws.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #27

    At the end of the day you can moan about pardew all day it’s makes no difference, just let the fa sort the mess out and enjoy what’s left of the season.

    For crying out loud

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #28

    Blackley’s last paragraph has contradicted his entire 5 day argument about how footballers should be allowed to get away with

    His Pardew vendetta is bordering on unhealthy in his already warped world of double standards, selective morales and sheer ignorance

    Move on with your life ffs

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #29

    TADS

    Look at what the article is about.

    Look at the fact that there’s a little box here in which you can post comments on any football relating matter you want. You can do that , you know. If others want to join in with you, they can. You can have your own little conversation going on.

    Look at the fact that you can choose to skip any posts coming from the failed barrister Blackley.

    I’ll be looking to see what interesting conversation you come up with.

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  • JackButler

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #30

    Blackley and Brownlie

    My view is that Pardew should first and foremost be treated like everyone else under the criminal law. In deciding his additional punishment, the FA should make allowance for the fact that he has been punished by the courts and given a criminal record.
    ——————————————————————

    Your argument holds no water as on the basis of what you are saying there are tens of thousands of people who are guilty of public order offences every week by the fact that they used foul and abusive language at every football game up and down the country.

    The chances of Pardew facing legal action are and always were absolutely zero as there is no way in hell that any legal action would be taken as it would simply open the flood gates and the police and courts would be inundated with cases that they simply could not deal with.

    What Pardew did was wrong and unacceptable and outside the role of his professional responsibility but what you are advocating would see every sport needing to be legally governed in the same manner so every time there is an incident where the actions of any one person fell outside the agreed rulings of the game that person would be subject to legal action.

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  • dufuss

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

    Comment #31

    have you been bashing a stick at the nest?

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    Comment #32

    Skip on by TADS.

    Perhaps the level of conversation of failed barristers is above your head? If so, skip on by.

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  • DokToon

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    Comment #33

    toon,

    are you saying it was bl & bl who actually attempted to throw his season ticket in pards face?

    if hes claiming that, sounds liek the bragging of an internet tough guy….

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  • Online Guy

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    Comment #34

    If one would like to ask Robbie Savage a few questions ..Be polite mind ! Trisha will pass them on . be nice !

    trisha@lilypropertymanagement.co.uk.

    I already did, and asked him what his real take was on Pardew’s so called Head-butt …A coming together of faces Was my take on it I mentioned ..Ask him, you might be surprised with the answer.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    Comment #35

    Blackley
    No one has been starting up any conversation because of page after page after page of absolute boring sh1te
    Choose a thread, dedicate to your legal pursuit of justice against Pardew!

    I’ve seen a few try and start conversations but it always looks like it gets missed, wedged somewhere in between your repetitive essays of hypocritical bollox

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  • nufc786

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    Comment #36

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET1lIcoTObc

    Olympiakos – Panathinaikos 0-3 ~ Mehdi Abeid Free Kick Goal (2-3-20

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  • toonking

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:56 PM

    Comment #37

    pardew for england is the best way i see it going into acceptance for both types of fans.
    A) he is like a yes man probably the best one their is
    B) the FA clearly want to have a yes man which is the reason they don’t want redknapp as manager because he will not want the FA acting like the buissnessmen they are he will want them get back at the premier league and force the premier league to make changes that help england rather than getting more money.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Mar 6, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    Comment #38

    Pardew for England

    Play boring football good idea

    Not

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Mar 6, 2014 at 8:02 PM

    Comment #39

    nufc786

    By all accounts Abeid has had a cracking loan spell, but unlike the other lads, there’s been no talk of looking forward to coming back and forcing his way into the team etc
    It rather sounded like he wanted to stay there!

    Hopefully he has a role to play because out of all the lads in loan he looks the only one who could really impact the senior squad next season

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  • dufuss

    Mar 6, 2014 at 8:02 PM

    Comment #40

    best place on the scrap heap

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