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Alan Pardew Requesting Personal Hearing Is A Sensible Move

7:05 pm, Thursday, March 6th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 277 Comments

At 6:00 pm today, the news that Alan Pardew had accepted the charge of misconduct was announced by the FA, but Alan Pardew will also seek a personal hearing, as was reported this morning.

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Alan Pardew – accepts charge of misconduct
This is the statement issued by the FA:

“Newcastle United manager Alan Pardew has admitted an FA misconduct charge in relation to his side’s game against Hull City on 1 March 2014.”

“Pardew was involved in an incident with a Hull City player in the 72nd minute of this fixture.”

“He has requested a personal hearing, the date of which will be set in due course.”

It seems it’s a good move by Pardew and Newcastle to seek a personal hearing, because they can lay out their case – that David Meyler shoved the Newcastle manager, and that’s what started the confrontation.

And the headbutt wasn’t a brutal one – rather he leaned his head into David’s face – and while that’s still completely unacceptable, it was hardly malicious.

The hearing will very likely be sometime next week, and then we’ll know the extent of Pardew’s punishment.

Comments welcome.

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277 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ben3arfa // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    hopefully a touchline ban no longer than 5 games

  • 2 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:12 PM

    “The criminal law doesn’t cease to operate once you cross the touchline of a sports field. Neither does being disciplined by an employer or a sport governing body make an athlete immune to the law.” Words of the Chief Crown Prosecutor in the Bowyer case.

    Section 5 Public Order Act 1986 is a weapon in the police armoury to deal with disorderly behaviour and hooliganism. It relates to the use of threatening or abusive words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress. It therefore has a broad scope and a low threshold. That’s why you’ve got to be very careful if you’re shouting and swearing, particularly in a sports ground. If you’re shouting and swearing and people around you get upset about it (even if it’s not directed at them), you can be arrested and charged under this section, and it does happen.

    The CPS guidelines say: “Where violence is used, it is not normally appropriate to charge an offence under section 5 unless the physical behaviour amounts merely to pushing or undirected lashing out of a type likely to cause no more than a glancing blow, minor bruising or grazing.”

    The CPS Prosecution Policy on Football Related Offences issued on 23 August 2013 states, “ACPO and the CPS will continue to operate a robust prosecution policy for football related offences during 2013/14 and beyond.”

    The CPS Guidance on this section states: “Police officers are aware of the difficult balance to be struck in dealing with those whose behaviour may be perceived by some as exuberant high spirits but by others as disorderly.” So that statement gives an indication of where this law is pitched.

    Bear in mind the club and FA have and will throw the book at him, it is so serious. If it’s that’s serious, it’s surely worthy of a small fine at the magistrates and a criminal record. I’m not asking for any more than that (the question of sacking is a completely different question). All I’m saying is that he should be treated the same as the next man.

    This happened in a football ground where alcohol is served, emotions run high, with the potential for crowd violence to erupt, and all in the presence of families. It is for this reason that the authorities take a tough line on any incidents of disorderly conduct and violence of any sort. You even get a fine, a criminal banning order and more importantly a criminal record.

    If Joe Public does what Pardew did, he would likely be arrested and the police spotters in the ground would provide the cctv evidence to the court. Once it got to court, none of the defences to the offence would apply. It would be a done deal.

    Okay, it’s a minor offence. No more than a fine as punishment. But it’s a criminal record. That’s teh important point.

    Now, if Pardew can put his head into someone’s face without getting a criminal record, surely everyone else can? Or does it mean only Pardew and other sports people can because they will be disciplined by their governing body? Your brickie or joiner or unemployed person will just have to pick up a criminal record.

  • 3 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:16 PM

    GeordieTwo

    Don’t interrupt me when I’m arguing with myself

  • 4 toon22 // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    Blackie

    The police looked into it and said they werent going to press charges,or are you saying we should ignor the law
    ?

  • 5 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    * You even get a fine, a 3 year criminal banning order and more importantly a criminal record for stepping on the pitch and offering back your season ticket to Pardew.

  • 6 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    Wow you love it don’t you bnb!

  • 7 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    repost

    Toon KK 63

    that is what the worst part about newcastle fans that are england fans.

    As we know to make any progress up the league table our club now has to spend lots of money on very talented players but are their many english talents? No, the best talents are foreign and those that are English are very dear. So we decide to spend lots of money bring in lots of foreigners, get what we want to achieve club wise, but it comes at a cost and the cost is, we make the england quality get worst and worst with less and less youth coming through.

  • 8 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    Seems an appropriate time for a repost…..

    Toonarmydownsouth
    1 hr, 41 mins ago
    Evening gents

    Not sure if anyone has seen this…..
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/9194942/newcastle-manager-alan-pardew-will-not-face-criminal-charges-after-head-butting-david-meyler

    I’m assuming not as its still being banged on about for the 5th f*****g day in a row

    Ffs this used to be a decent banter based football blog now it’s the ramblings of some form of failed barrister prattling on about something realistically nobody gives 2 sh1ts about!

  • 9 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    I hope pardew behaves himself if he gets a personal hearing

  • 10 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    5 days later and your still rambling on about it, I bet that chronic piece was you :)

  • 11 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    And before you decide to tell me not to read your posts if I don’t like them the fact of the matter is I tend to just read,the first sentence then skip 😉 although I do respect your opinion it’s getting a little tedious now 😉

  • 12 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    Pardew for england

  • 13 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    Average
    A bit tedious?? Watching paint dry comes to mind!

  • 14 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    floppy chops should coach england…

  • 15 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    Stand up if you love pardew
    Stand up if you love pardew
    Stand up if you love pardew
    Stand up if you love pardew

  • 16 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    I’m all for Alan being forced to wear black and white tassles for the rest of his time with us. A punishment to suit the crime.

  • 17 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:28 PM

    g2,

    im all for teaching pards how to headbutt properly.. is george the animal steele available?

  • 18 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    Tads, watching pardew repeatedly beg for players is probably a more apt description m8

  • 19 JackButler // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    “He has requested a personal hearing, the date of which will be set in due course.”

    Makes no difference as they will still throw the book at him which he can’t argue against

  • 20 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    Sorry I left out the most important part, then say we are “ok” ” in good shape”

  • 21 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:33 PM

    Well anyway it has been a pleasure never a chore fellow bloggers! Tea time in mine so laters all and be good little munchkins

  • 22 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    Toon 22

    Are you saying that the police don’t ever get things wrong? Bear in mind I had a long conversation with the Chief Inspector who made the decision, and he had to agonise over it long and hard. He was influenced by the fact that the FA were prepared to deal with it. That misses the point.

    Let me put it this way. Cut me some slack with this scenario and go with it as far as you can. Let’s suppose the FA were an ineffectual organisation, and the club had taken no action over this. Everyone would be turning to the police and saying this is not acceptable behaviour. You can’t do that sort of thing without adequate punishment. He should be fined at least £100,000 and get some sort of ban. We want you to take some action. What can you do about it?

    The police would say “We’ve got laws against that.” We could put him in front of the magistrates and he will get a small fine.”

    You’d ask, “Is that all for **** sake?”

    Police: “It is a criminal conviction. Getting a criminal record is a serious punishment in life. It is a major blot on your character. Surely you accept we can’t punish him under the criminal law any more than the next man who did that at a football ground? You do accept that, don’t you?”

    Of course, the position is not like that. Pardew escapes any criminal punishment because the police take into consideration the fact that he will be severely punished by his governing body.

    My view is that Pardew should first and foremost be treated like everyone else under the criminal law. In deciding his additional punishment, the FA should make allowance for the fact that he has been punished by the courts and given a criminal record.

    “The criminal law doesn’t cease to operate once you cross the touchline of a sports field. Neither does being disciplined by an employer or a sport governing body make an athlete immune to the law.” Words of the Chief Crown Prosecutor in the Bowyer case.

  • 23 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:35 PM

    Come on now everybody support pardew

  • 24 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:35 PM

    I still feel we need a strict German disciplinarian DokToon mate. Lightning quick attacks. Fantastic movement. Two or three Germans in the back 4. No lollygagging allowed. It’s the future of Geordie football. No more berets at the ground. Steel helmets and men of steel on the pitch. Beautiful.

  • 25 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    It looks like I’ve stirred a hornet’s nest on radio Newcastle tonight.

  • 26 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    B&B
    * You even get a fine, a 3 year criminal banning order and more importantly a criminal record for stepping on the pitch and offering back your season ticket to Pardew.

    we get your point you annoyed that pardew was not charged by the police when he did a headbutt but a fan will get all that for a shove with his season ticket.

    you should have thought about that before shoving your ticket into his face, our performances were winding you up but that doesn’t give you any reason to react the way you did, instead what you should have done was toss your ticket into the bin like what so many other fans do. the outcome of a crime we choose to commit won’t be known at the time it happens, but what we will know is what has happened to people in the past who have choose to do a simular crime.

    you choose to commit a pitch invasion and will have seen the fact that most people who do that will face long if not life time bans from that stadium.

    pardew choose to commit what was just a common assault drunken people on the street do this all the time and they are usually just split up by bouncers and kept apart until the police arrive and as long as the damage is not serious they will be just sent back to their homes. morineo poked a person in the eye and spanish might have some different laws but a poke in the eye will certainly be classed as a crime because the one thing that almost every european law must follow is the european court of human rights and a poke in the eye will certainly be in them laws.

  • 27 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:44 PM

    At the end of the day you can moan about pardew all day it’s makes no difference, just let the fa sort the mess out and enjoy what’s left of the season.

    For crying out loud

  • 28 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    Blackley’s last paragraph has contradicted his entire 5 day argument about how footballers should be allowed to get away with

    His Pardew vendetta is bordering on unhealthy in his already warped world of double standards, selective morales and sheer ignorance

    Move on with your life ffs

  • 29 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    TADS

    Look at what the article is about.

    Look at the fact that there’s a little box here in which you can post comments on any football relating matter you want. You can do that , you know. If others want to join in with you, they can. You can have your own little conversation going on.

    Look at the fact that you can choose to skip any posts coming from the failed barrister Blackley.

    I’ll be looking to see what interesting conversation you come up with.

  • 30 JackButler // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    My view is that Pardew should first and foremost be treated like everyone else under the criminal law. In deciding his additional punishment, the FA should make allowance for the fact that he has been punished by the courts and given a criminal record.
    ——————————————————————

    Your argument holds no water as on the basis of what you are saying there are tens of thousands of people who are guilty of public order offences every week by the fact that they used foul and abusive language at every football game up and down the country.

    The chances of Pardew facing legal action are and always were absolutely zero as there is no way in hell that any legal action would be taken as it would simply open the flood gates and the police and courts would be inundated with cases that they simply could not deal with.

    What Pardew did was wrong and unacceptable and outside the role of his professional responsibility but what you are advocating would see every sport needing to be legally governed in the same manner so every time there is an incident where the actions of any one person fell outside the agreed rulings of the game that person would be subject to legal action.

  • 31 dufuss // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

    have you been bashing a stick at the nest?

  • 32 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    Skip on by TADS.

    Perhaps the level of conversation of failed barristers is above your head? If so, skip on by.

  • 33 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    toon,

    are you saying it was bl & bl who actually attempted to throw his season ticket in pards face?

    if hes claiming that, sounds liek the bragging of an internet tough guy….

  • 34 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    If one would like to ask Robbie Savage a few questions ..Be polite mind ! Trisha will pass them on . be nice !

    trisha@lilypropertymanagement.co.uk.

    I already did, and asked him what his real take was on Pardew’s so called Head-butt …A coming together of faces Was my take on it I mentioned ..Ask him, you might be surprised with the answer.

  • 35 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    Blackley
    No one has been starting up any conversation because of page after page after page of absolute boring sh1te
    Choose a thread, dedicate to your legal pursuit of justice against Pardew!

    I’ve seen a few try and start conversations but it always looks like it gets missed, wedged somewhere in between your repetitive essays of hypocritical bollox

  • 36 nufc786 // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET1lIcoTObc

    Olympiakos – Panathinaikos 0-3 ~ Mehdi Abeid Free Kick Goal (2-3-20

  • 37 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:56 PM

    pardew for england is the best way i see it going into acceptance for both types of fans.
    A) he is like a yes man probably the best one their is
    B) the FA clearly want to have a yes man which is the reason they don’t want redknapp as manager because he will not want the FA acting like the buissnessmen they are he will want them get back at the premier league and force the premier league to make changes that help england rather than getting more money.

  • 38 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    Pardew for England

    Play boring football good idea

    Not

  • 39 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:02 PM

    nufc786

    By all accounts Abeid has had a cracking loan spell, but unlike the other lads, there’s been no talk of looking forward to coming back and forcing his way into the team etc
    It rather sounded like he wanted to stay there!

    Hopefully he has a role to play because out of all the lads in loan he looks the only one who could really impact the senior squad next season

  • 40 dufuss // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:02 PM

    best place on the scrap heap

  • 41 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    God it’s boring on here tonight, they can’t be all sleeping

  • 42 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    Hello

  • 43 Ketsbaia9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    Haha, Abeid has just doen what no Man Utd player could do. Great talent.

  • 44 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    Heeeelllllllloooooooo

  • 45 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:05 PM

    Blackley
    The articles about Pardew requesting a personal hearing
    Not getting bought up on charges, which is all you’ve talked about

    The comments also state sticking to football, no place for politics etc

  • 46 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    JackB

    What has opened the floodgates is Pardew’s escaping of criminal sanctions (albeit minor ones in terms of punishment) for his act of hooliganism.

    Yes, hooliganism (rowdy, violent, or destructive behavior). Hooliganism in, of all places, a sports ground.

    Now, everyone who gets pushed can walk up to someone, shut their eyes, put their brow in a face and push. They’ll simply turn around and say “Pardew”.

    Of course, the police can you use their discretion. Some irate guy on teh radio reacting to me was shouting “section this section that. If his kids were throwing snowballs, would he want them to get a criminal record?”

    Pardew actions in a sports ground were out of order. If it opens the floodgates so that people in sports grounds who do that sort of thing face the magistrates, then I say yes every time. Same goes for spitting in someone’s face. You’re not allowed to take the law into your own hands. Do you agree?

    If Pardew or anyone else thought that the push was sufficiently serious, he could have simply complained to the police. His proper response, however, should have been to laugh it off, or to appeal to the ref to book Meyler. At worst, to push back.

  • 47 dufuss // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    http://soccertoall.net/index.php?channel=6

  • 48 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:08 PM

    TADS

    Take some free advice from a failed barrister: skip on by.

  • 49 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:09 PM

    45toonarmydownsouth

    Well said, you tell him

  • 50 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    Online Guy

    What’s the Robbie Savage link about?

  • 51 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    I almost cant be bothered to ask but here’s a few questions for you.

    Do you know Dave Whelan ?

    Did you ever represent JJB sports ?

    Do you know anyone personally that knows Alan Pardew ?

    Have you ever had any dealings with Alan Pardew ?

    Do you have a grudge against Newcastle United or Alan Pardew?

    I’m exhausted just reading your contributions to the blog so can we just be up front and clear with your Answer’s ? Thanks.

  • 52 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    tads,

    maybe pards jilted blackley, hence the rampant infatuation with him…

    hes a broken record, just dont engage him…

  • 53 rasul // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    FA: what have you to say in your deffence ??

    Parduu: Well the injuries we got from Europa Leauge last year and the sale of cabaye has certantly put som pressure on my self, its not an excuse but we really cant get cope with playing on thursday than again on sunday. We bossed the game against Hull and that because we dont play in Europa leauge. Jonas Guiterez wife dosent let me do her anymore so i sailed him on to Norwich and when that Meyer dude pushed me, well HE HE i really had to put him on place because thats not acceptabel from my side, u know what i mean ?? HIGH FIVE !

    FA: We give u 3 games ban ok since ur the most beatiful manager in the leauge! OK?

    Pardu: Since u say that, make it 7 :)

  • 54 wolfshead@toon // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    yeh tads leave it hes not worth pmsl

  • 55 DokToon // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    online,

    youcall his posts contributions?

    for shame on you!!! :)

  • 56 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    toon KK

    “as far as English talent goes alot of our player’s come through the youth academy playing a different style of football. Where as in many other countries its far more tactical and brings out a different quality the English player’s aren’t used to.”

    their is two sides to this, if we want football to be like it is in europe what we are asking for is a sport that gets slower and slower and is less and less physical. that is why i like bundeliga so much because that is the most simular in terms of physicality style and speed to the premier league.

    The key to the Germany team as they are now is they went through a weaker than expect performance for about ten years. the fans and media might not have liked it at the time but what they didn’t know was that formed part of what is now an excellent german international team and club team.
    What better way to see this than comparing the bayern munich squad to the city squad both of who are the favourites to win their league each season.

  • 57 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:14 PM

    TADS

    Stick to football, no place for politics on this blog, you say. So nobody should give their views on what punishment Pardew should get? Is that your argument, my learned friend? I’m just trying to think if we’ve met before at some failed barrister’s conference?

  • 58 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Blackley
    By all means discuss his punishment, from the FA

    Not the imaginary court case your putting together, no legal action to be taken generally means……..yeah no legal action so stop banging on about it!

  • 59 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Blackley

    If you want to ask a question of Robbie on all matters football, you can do it with that link.

    Public domain, just in case someone wants to have a pop at me ..just thought I’d make that clear.

  • 60 anthc // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    Section 5 of the public order act wouldn’t necessarily mean a criminal record. You can actually be issued with a penalty notice for less than a hundred squid. The mans been fined a 100k by the club plus whatever the fa fine him so on the grand scheme of things thats alot more than what the plod could do to him. Breaking the law doesn’t always mean you’ll have a criminal record thanks to human rights. Why isn’t meyler mentioned above for the assault on pardew??. Being in the public eye makes this alot worse than what it is. It happens all the time on a friday night up and down the country and must people don’t bat an eyelid. Lets move on and talk about football.

  • 61 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    Yes it is a football blog, if you want politics go and watch the parliament channel or question time with your pipe and hot chocolate.

  • 62 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    Dok
    I’d imagine it involves showing Pardews silver serpant to his missus!!

  • 63 JackButler // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    Sorry mate but you are clutching at straws as if you watch rugby you will regularly see players standing toe to toe punching seven bells out of each other and no one has ever talked about legal action being taken then.

    What Pardew did was wrong and there’s no argument that can be made to say it wasn’t but if you are to apply the letter of the law then as I said tens of thousands break the law on a weekly basis at every ground you simply cannot separate what offences you punish and what one’s you allow to go unpunished.

    There have been incidents that are ten times worse than what Pardew did that have gone unpunished legally because they were dealt with by the governing body of the sports involved.

    If you look at the two situations involving Suarez, one for racial abuse against Evra, one for biting another player, Ben Thatchers elbow on Mendez or Roy Keene’s tackle that was to intentionally hurt Alf-Inge Håland!!! All of these incidents are far worse and all went unpunished

  • 64 jazzyp // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    Evening all………..Still banging on about Percy the Punisher I see

  • 65 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    Jazzyp

    It’s getting a bit boring especially Blackey and Brownlie

  • 66 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    Is their many english on the blog or am i wasting my time trying to use england as a football discussion.

    i don’t mean this in an abusive way just wondering if it’s hard than i thought to get england chat.
    It is 8:30 in england so is getting late also the blog is .com and the premier league is watched world wide so i guess their will be lots more
    non english.

  • 67 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:27 PM

    Online Guy

    Don’t tax yourself by wading through my posts if they’re too much for you, fella. Heed my free counsel to TADS: skip on by.

    I haven’t tuned in here properly for a couple of days. When I did this afternoon the Pardew brouhaha was in full swing. Te first post I see had my name in it, and so I’ve come on.

    It’s only a brief appearance. I’m getting off now. I will only come on again if something particularly stirs me or my name gets mentioned.

    This failed barrister can’t keep up with some of you lot anyway. Suffice to say, if anyone is interested in the Pardew debate and wants to argue their point in a sensible way, I’ll look out for any post.

    There you are TADS. Over to you. No interupptions from me if I can help it. I’ll be looking out for your witty contributions with interest and no doubt enjoying your humurous banter, as we all will.

  • 68 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:27 PM

    Jazzy
    If you say Pardews name 3 times in a mirror he’ll appear behind you……..

  • 69 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:27 PM

    Blackley

    What’s your Motive /agenda behind all this legalise ?

    Would you not make a lot more money out of Rugby Union, representing Player’s from that code, in court..

    You will have course have to defend Player’s for punching each other’s lights out , stamping, Kicking, gouging, Real Headbutts , broken cheekbones and broken Jaw’s !

    Question is would you defend a player in court that had committed and act of violence against another player or coach ?

    And if you are in the Legal trade you know you would have to defend that said violent player jealously as per the oath..

    Do I smell Hypocrisy here ? I put it to you my Learned Friend……

  • 70 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Blacky what are you on about?

  • 71 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    toonking

    What are you on about

  • 72 wolfshead@toon // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:29 PM

    blackey

    its a shame your posts werent about the fact we won 4-1

  • 73 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:30 PM

    Blackley
    By all means look out for what you want, really don’t care
    Just cant stand to read through anymore essays which basically say the same thing with a few words tweaked at least 10-15 times a day scatter gunned across all threads!

  • 74 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    Brackley is an obnoxious fart who is really TDS.

  • 75 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    Wolfshead
    Don’t think he’s once mentioned the win no matter how many times the conversation swung back to the result!

  • 76 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    welsh
    i’ve tried to get a football conversation going which is about england because they did play yesterday but it doesn’t seem to work, what i’m wondering is if talking about england team will be harder than i thought as this is the world wide web, which means that will have bloggers world wide not just in england.

  • 77 Belfast // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    I agree.

    Blackley you’re becoming a bit obsessed by this whole Pardew incident like. Go lie down for a while or something.

  • 78 Toonboi4EVA // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:34 PM

    What a sad individual B&B really is. Surely you have got better things to do with your life, cant believe your still banging on about this………who cares ffs!

  • 79 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:34 PM

    Blacklie ,

    You did not answer one of my questions in my article # 51 ..

    I answered your questions to me ..please pay me the courtesy of an answer to the questions I posed in #51 . thank you.

  • 80 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    Toonking

    I think you are wasting your time with that one if it’s a league match there would be more comments on here, that’s why it was quiet on here last night.

  • 81 BeeGuy // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    In the USA he could argue is was merely standing his ground.

  • 82 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:37 PM

    Blackleys Alan Pardew rant is doing my head in he is a tit going on and on like a old woman.

  • 83 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    # at 69 legalese

  • 84 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    blackly

    you quoted this

    The CPS guidelines say: “Where violence is used, it is not normally appropriate to charge an offence under section 5 unless the physical behaviour amounts merely to pushing or undirected lashing out of a type likely to cause no more than a glancing blow, minor bruising or grazing.”

    That describes pardew’s actions and therefore, under their own guidelines he was not charged…very simple.

  • 85 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Toonking
    I don’t think it’s the fact that people on here aren’t English mate, it’s the fact that there really isn’t much to talk about on last nights game, it was utter dross mate!

    And Hodgson’s set up made no sense, it’s a friendly, he’s supposed to be looking at what players should be going to Brazil
    So why play hart for the whole game?
    Why was Shaw not given a whole game?
    Why did Townsend get 4 minutes?

    We know what the senior pro’s can do so why not use the squad?

  • 86 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:39 PM

    Also blackly…should remy be charged for his headbutt also? or just pardew

  • 87 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    The way he goes on about the law all the time sounds like he’s had a run in with the cops before.

  • 88 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    67Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:27 PM

    Just talk about football matters like

    Our next match
    Which players we are going to sign and going out

    What I’m trying to say is

    STOP BLOODY MOANING

  • 89 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    Blackly

    Also speaking to my CPS friend they also say that the offence would not be charged for a member of the public, especially given Meyler made more contact initially.

    In essence it was handbags.

  • 90 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    A kick up the arse would put the silly bugger right and take his mind off Alan.

  • 91 jazzyp // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    Tads
    I’ve purposely kept away for a few days because I got fed up with the same bs being spouted on here.
    CANDY MAN:
    CANDY MAN:
    CANDY MAN:

  • 92 Belfast // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    Speaking to my doctor friend, he thinks Blackley may have ocd

    Obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) is a mental health condition where a person has obsessive thoughts and compulsive behaviour.
    An obsession is an unwanted, unpleasant thought, image or urge that repeatedly enters a person’s mind, causing them anxiety.

  • 93 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    B&B – mate you need to get off your horse, its way to high for you
    You’re basically saying that anyone who injures another player or shows intent should get a criminal record
    Where would that leave football ?

  • 94 jazzyp // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    On the England debate does anybody think we will do well to get out of the group stage.
    And does anybody think they will actually be able to focus on the tv at that time of night through extra curricular activities

  • 95 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    jazzyp….You stole my entrance!

    Anyway, you know what’s worsen than the same argument over and over again? Us continuing to talk about the person that kept going on and on and on.

    So…Who thinks Pards should be in jail right about now? Damn it…i’ve been brainwashed.

  • 96 geordie157 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    Just been reading the posts and three words stood out ‘ skip on by’

  • 97 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:49 PM

    Sage
    No one should be charged for squaring up in football, Christ I’d hate to see someone charged for that on a night out!

    Any way been catching up on Eds articles, the one reviewing our loan players, did anyone else read it and think, wow we have some very poor youth players?

    Think he listed tav, 22, doing ok at a team in league 1 but has never really played at a higher level
    Same for Harris

    Ferguson has been dropped to the reserves at brum
    Campbell has quietened down at St Mirren and although doing ok he’s not really nailing down a spot there

    Good and Abeid really are the only two looking to be taking the opportunity with both hands

  • 98 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:49 PM

    What would the cracker have to moan about if Alan hadn’t nutted that player.

  • 99 Belfast // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    I can confirm that my doctor friend is not Harold Shipman

  • 100 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:51 PM

    jazzyp…Wait…England have a football team? Intriguing.

    Belfast…Mate, honestly, it’s hard enough to believe you have a mate let alone one who is a doctor.

    Mind, I suppose if you’re going to imagine a friend, he may as well be a doctor.

  • 101 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:52 PM

    Belfast and he is not the only ocd a that tds has a lot to say about nowt.

  • 102 JackButler // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:52 PM

    Belfast

    Just because someone is treating you doesn’t make them a “Mate” !!!!!

  • 103 geordie157 // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    Would be nice in summer to bring some young English talent. Ie will Hughes who admittedly would cost a lot but there cheaper options like byram, aaron cresswell, lascelles etc

  • 104 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    I can confirm that Belfast’s “Doctor friend” does not exist.

    See, the blog can be fun.

  • 105 jazzyp // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    Can we all please get back to what this blogs about please………….now can I start a topic on The percy head-butt please

  • 106 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    Jazzy – can’t see England getting out the group stages unless a miracle happens – they looked useless last night and whilst that doesn’t mean a lot in itself I can’t see a real world class player anywhere in the squad and England rarely play as a team as they prefer personal glory aka Gerrard, Lampard, Sturridge etc

  • 107 Belfast // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    My doctor friend is true Ibiza, hand on heart

    Dr Richard Google Search Bar The Second.

  • 108 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    geordie157…Agreed. It’s important that we try and pick up some decent British talent, as well as players from overseas.

    For a club trying to do things on the cheap and supposedly interested in concentrating on youth, we don’t seem to be very active in this field.

  • 109 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    tads

    makes me laugh….this sort of thing happens all the time in pubs and clubs and more often than not they are just chucked outside and told to go home. Acting like any member of the public would get a criminal record for this is laughable.

    Even the guidelines Blackley posted show the correct decisions was made.

  • 110 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    Belfast…Oh right, is this the same mate that sets you up on your nightly “dates”?

    Keep your hand on your heart for now mate, let’s not let this get awkward.

  • 111 jazzyp // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    Ibiza
    Im not sure on that one mate……..maybe just one of my hedonistic dreams while on the white isle

  • 112 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    TADS

    I Have to admit it was only 10 minutes in that i decided to switch back over from watching the football match and instead watched the rest of the england 1 day critcket match because england is boring at the minute, more boring than cricket and if we are going to continue to just play the older guys then why bother watching the friendlies.

    yes a loss might start raising questions, but it’s just the stupid press, they do it every week as football fans in general will have seen from this pardew incident.

    the truth is the manager would have an excuse for that loss saying “it’s the fans who want to see the youth tried and that doesn’t happen over night so a loss is a loss but over time things will improve”

    to tell you the truth i am starting to loose interest in supporting england because the trouble with supporting england is it means i will make my support of newcastle much harder because unless the FA have the guts to gain control of everything that happens in the premier league, their will always be teams who can spend masses and build a team based on foreign talent.

  • 113 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    Can I remove the word “mate” from that post? Don’t want to give Belfast false hope, it was just a blog habit.

  • 114 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:58 PM

    Not football related but I find it both sick and hilarious – you really wouldn’t want to get a criminal record for this http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wayne-bryson-sex-girlfriends-dog-3212462

  • 115 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    jazzyp…You’d like to think if it was some dream, that it would be a little better than the current England team :)

  • 116 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    Poor lass couldn’t look the dog in the face anymore so had to get rid of it !

  • 117 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    mindshaft…What do you mean it’s not dogballing related?

  • 118 jazzyp // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Mindshaft
    Maybe we should use this upcoming tournament to give experience to the fresh blood and look to the future.Personally I think even if we do get out of the group stage that’s where it will end

  • 119 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Alan Pardew is a proper bloke who is trying his best but his boss keeps taking the Arthur bliss out of him but ash wants to be wary Alan might nutted him i live in hope (ha ha)

  • 120 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Online Guy

    Sorry I haven’t answered your questions. I’m not sure how they’re relevant to what I’m saying, and so they’re difficult for me to answer. Forgive me as you’ve probably been the most polite.

    It’s hard enough when everyone on here who is commenting is supporting our club’s manager, and I’m ending up arguing with them. Transfer’s point @ 84 is particularly relevant.

  • 121 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

    Evening all

    Hows everyone doing. I see Blackley is still on his one man criminal case against Pardew 😀

  • 122 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

    Geordie157
    What’s happened to Byram? Seems to of fallen right out of favour..

  • 123 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:04 PM

    ibiza and belfast

    I know you two are joking, and don’t expect people to take my word as gospel, but it’s given in honesty….anyway totally done on pardew now, had enough of this witch hunt.

    jazzy

    Certainly can change it…..I think we should break the bank to go for llalana….give them the 20mil we got for cabaye, that boy can play. Should also be looking at will hughes as well as thoroughly scouting other lower league academy players to get as many in as we can.

    Very controversial, as the guy is turd, but i’d be tempted with bendtner on a free…..not as the only forward we sign, but as the third one we bring in, ideally keep de jong and remy but doubtful on remy so go for a good one from europe, maybe benteke or lukaku if available

  • 124 jazzyp // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:04 PM

    Ibiza
    It was mate……..I was your best man at yourself and Darnsarf’s wedding lol

  • 125 geordie157 // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:04 PM

    Vuckic was decent in the championship for Cardiff. But I’m not sure if he’ll ever be better than that level. Always thought he’d become our lampard.

    Good I’d written off but he could force his way into the reckoning next season.

    Tav, like vuckic will become a solid championship player.

    Abeid may have a future with us, think he’s one to watch.

    The progress or lack of for bigi worries me.

    Can Fergs be recalled? He’d be a better bench warmer than obertan or marveaux

    Newton will probably sign permanently for st mirren in the summer, would have liked us to have tried him on the right wing this season, reminds me of milner a bit and think he’d be a useful squad player.

  • 126 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    Sage
    It’s absolutely ridiculous mate!
    As for the whole criminal record thing, it’s a load of BS
    9/10, slap on the wrist £50 fine on your way son don’t do it again!

  • 127 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    blackley

    I know i posted about 3/4 posts to you, not wanting to sound like i’m ranting/having a go, just more thoughts kept coming after i posted.

  • 128 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    B&B – I don’t think everyone’s supporting pard’s but your crusade to get sports people sent to prison at the slightest bit of passion is getting a bit ridiculous
    Your basically saying that players / managers should show no passion, shouldn’t tackle or shout or dare to show aggression

  • 129 geordie157 // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    Think byram was suffering from fatigue so the ex huddersfield right back who’s name I forget has taken his place

  • 130 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:08 PM

    tads

    it’s not even a fine a lot of the time, see plenty in town when out where they just get kicked out the club and told to get home to bed….some others get chucked in a cell for the night, not even a formal caution and then let out when sobered up the next day.

    obviously different if real violence where there is harm done, or genuine intent to harm.

  • 131 dufuss // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    I see the lip readers saw meyler say “you gotta fight for the right to parteee” to which Pardew said”bosh ave some of dat”

  • 132 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    Politicians are stealing money of taxpayers starting all these wars and al anyone is moaning about alan nuttin that maylar

  • 133 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    Transfer @ 84

    The CPS guidelines say: “Where violence is used, it is not normally appropriate to charge an offence under section 5 unless the physical behaviour amounts merely to pushing or undirected lashing out of a type likely to cause no more than a glancing blow, minor bruising or grazing.”

    Transfer says, that describes pardew’s actions and therefore, under their own guidelines he was not charged…very simple.

    It is not as simple as you are saying. Where violence is used it is not normally appropriate to charge an offence under section 5. But that’s because it is very often more appropriate to charge under a more serious provision. Any disorderly behaviour (including the use of words incidentally) which is no more serious than the items mentioned can come under section 5.

    Sorry TADS, but transfer raised it on the subject of Pardew.

  • 134 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    Tads

    Insanity has reached a new level here. As has self contradiction.
    Now he is saying that the criminal law DOES cover players, whereas the other night he said they were exempt!

  • 135 geordie157 // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    Sage, I’ve also had the strange thought that bendtner could do a job for us.

    To make it worse ( note I did have the flu at this point) but I also thought borini wouldn’t be a bad shout.

    Well that’s the men in white coats at the door ……

  • 136 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    On the England debate we picked a perfect team last night (well i’d have baines and jagielka in, llalana for wilshire too, but not a bad line up).

    I think a back 4 of baines, jagielka, cahill and johnson/walker is decent, not that much better about now seeing as very few defenders can actually defend now, more important to pass it seems now.

    Then I’d personally have gerrard and barry holding, with llalana, rooney nd sterling ahead (all can rotate across the 3 positions) then sturridge up top.

    I think it’s a very dangerous team, we just need to let them off the leash a little, be more adventurous and attack, rather go home in a blaze of glory than lose another penalty shootout.

  • 137 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:13 PM

    T sage

    best thing about england is all that deadly pace. If we get that system working we could zoon up the rankings.

  • 138 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    blackley

    I still go off what my friend in the CPS has said that in this case, where the victim meyler, doesn’t want to press charges and that there is very little contact, where meyler makes a more significant physical contact and initiates it all then there is no charge to answer.

    this happens tons on a friday/saturday night and very rarely will somebody be arrested for this level of nonsense.

  • 139 jazzyp // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    Menez available on a free this summer boys, Any takers………ooooooooooops sorry gone off topic. Please lets get back to The head butt

  • 140 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    jazzyp…Sounds nice. Was it a magical day, everything I’ve ever dreamed of?

    TS…I’m just taking the p*ss out of Belfast mate. I actually hadn’t made the connection that Belfast was taking the p*ss. Just thought he was being his usual strange self :)

  • 141 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    Good news lads. Ibiza has come back with his report on Homo Erectus. Apparently they nearly died out a while back but a few of them apparently still live in Sunderland. Unfortunately (for them) they are all males though. Unlikely to be a next generation as human lasses won’t cooperate.

  • 142 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:15 PM

    What’s that about strange selves Ibiza mate? Anyone I know?

  • 143 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:15 PM

    TADS
    i would say ferguson can go harris can and tav can but we should keep good and he could be our 4th choice for saylor who can be sold (shame for me to say that being english fan)
    is abied a CDM or a CAM because the CM seem to be much more of a CDM collection the most attacking type seems to be sissoko, bigi tiote anita they all seem CDM.

    when we look at youth players and how they look when they return their is one player who springs to mind.
    Sammy Ameobi

    he was on loan at the boro last season and was said to be poor but since he made his return to newcastle he has did better than i expected.

    what are your thoughts on sammy?

  • 144 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    Is it true Alan does not give good head butt?

  • 145 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    Right. Time for food.

    Before I do, are there any legal issues I should be looking out for? Is there a correct way to poke my fork in to the food?

    Catch you later.

  • 146 Ibizatoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:17 PM

    G2…I’ve come back with news on what? Sorry, let’s just say I blew the company budget and got smashed.

    Right, food time.

  • 147 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM

    TS – Johnson’s terrible, I can’t understand how he gets picked for Liverpool never mind England – defensively GE’s all over the place

  • 148 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM

    Sammy is a young Ameobi. As such he has a lot of slowing down to do to match his brother. Best thing would be to gain some weight. Eat with Benny and Jonas when in the toon. Develop some other bad habits. Then sign a long term contract with us. Just kidding. He has shown some positive signs this season.

  • 149 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM

    A lot of messers with nowt to do but moan.about alan

  • 150 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM

    Sage
    Last nights team was as you say a near perfect team, prob along the lines of the starting 11 at the World Cup, which baffled me

    It’s a friendly, he’d been saying players need to book tickets to the squad, he needs to gauge the overall depth etc so why the hell play the senior pro’s?
    We know what they can all do, would of preferred to see more fringe/ young players get 45 mins

    Oh and would of liked to see a big circus cannon come on at half time and shoot cleverly out the stadium!

  • 151 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    As you have not answered any of my questions @ post 51, despite a request from me for you to do so, I will take it as you cannot answer anything that will show a hidden Agenda?…that’s a question by the way .

    I say that because I get the impression that you cannot tell a lie ..and you stick to that throughout your life ..

    Its not just practising good Karma for you ..Its just that it’s not in your constitution to ever Lie ..and you cannot answer my questions @ 51 because that would throw light onto your motive and agenda regarding Alan Pardew

    Am I correct ? You cannot tell a lie ? Hence no answer to my question’s @ post 51 ? for fear of revealing your Agenda and past dealings with Alan Pardew or Newcastle United ?

  • 152 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM

    We had a momentary spasm about Homo Erectus Ibisza mate. We didn’t like the sound of them. A lot of jealousy breaking out. Talk of ordering more chest hair. That sort of thing. Your report has really calmed us down lad. Go ahead and eat but watch your figure. Keep those English lasses swooning you Stud Muffin you.

  • 153 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM

    geordie 157
    fergie bench warm

    shows what a shortage we are with wingers. i take my point back and we should keep ferguson if we are not going to bring in more wingers

  • 154 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:24 PM

    Markaccus

    I never said players were exempt. If you can find that quote from me, I will stand corrected. As I recall, I said players were afforded more leeway, but were not above the law.

    In all of these incidents, you’ve got to consider what is reasonable in the circumstances. When players are in the cut and thrust of a game, most people on here recognise that the circumstances are different.

    The point is everyone is judged by the same law, which includes a consideration of whether it is in the public interest to prosecute. But no two sets of circumstances are exactly the same. Certainly, the view of a reasonable response in a sport’s scenario (take a rugby field for example) would be different from one in say the family enclosure of SJP.

    Players’ conduct in all sports is improving as the authorities are increasingly making moves to stamp out violence.

  • 155 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:27 PM

    Black and brown shut up your noise about alan pardew its boring the thrupnee bits off us

  • 156 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:27 PM

    Markaccus
    It’s like he ‘s arguing with himself!

  • 157 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:28 PM

    I have nowt to do rex but I have many more concerns that just wor Alan. Sure he’s a knob end but there are many other problems. Look at our young striker Adam Armstrong for example. Have you seen the giant heed on him? And the tea lady being a man (of sorts). Sure Joe has taken to wearing skirts but still.

  • 158 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:28 PM

    Leave it to the FA B&B. They’re senile but also vindictive.

  • 159 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:30 PM

    tads

    See I think at the this stage the england manager knows his 11 (or is very close to) so it’s probably best to give them as much playing time as possible really.

  • 160 toon kk // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:31 PM

    I think we’ll be in a relegation battle next season. Mash won’t invest the money needed and with Remy gone we could struggle.

    What a our best players should remember if they go to a top club they’ll spend most of their time warming a bench.

  • 161 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:31 PM

    Where is jesper today? He’s gone missing after his motley crew lost to us. We didn’t crush them but they were shaky at the end. Just think what we’ll do to teams like San Marino. Does Burundi still have a team. We’ll sort them out as well.

  • 162 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:33 PM

    I hope roy doesn’t nut anybody for england are Blacky will moan for ever

  • 163 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:34 PM

    toon kk

    I thought very much the same as you, but have been thinking the last week and think we will be fine.

    Ashley saw what happened when we didn’t strengthen the squad to a good enough level so i don’t think he’ll leave us that short again as we spent 20mil in jan and survived by the skin of our teeth.

    I think it’s one thing for him to not upgrade the likes of obertan, ameobi, etc but I doubt he will not replace the outgoing remy, de jong, shola.

    I honestly think we will see between 3-5 lads come in during the summer and then look to promote 2-4 of the kids who have been on loan.

    I think we might cash in on santon though with 2 other left backs at the club

  • 164 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:34 PM

    TS
    in roys head it seems as though rooney, a player designed to play a role in the 18 yard box, is who should be the out and out striker playing in the 6 yard box.

    the player he thinks should be playing in the 18 yard box is sturridge who’s role at liverpool is playing mainly in the 6 yard box like an out and out striker.

    If rodgers can still expect suaez to score lots of goals a season while sturridge is the main CF then roy should be able to see that rooney can score goals when his position is just outside the 18 yard box and sturridge is the CF.

  • 165 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:34 PM

    rex

    what is he does it in brazil…what is their law on these matters?

  • 166 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:35 PM

    Blackley

    I think a few soul’s on this ere’ blog are wondering why you are taking this stance against Pardew..Puzzled because of the fact you are a Newcastle Supporter ..Who would want more trouble and Ridicule poured onto our club than we already suffer ? You are a Newcastle United supporter I take it Brownlie ?

    Do you want Blood from Pardew ..what’s your beef ? ,as they say in Little Italy …

  • 167 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    toonking

    That was one of the two problems last night, right players in wrong roles and the second problem was the super slow tempo.

    I honestly think rooney is great as the peak of the attack, had his best scoring season for man utd at their peak when ronaldo had left but when him and sturridge have to play as the best 2, then sturridge must be the out and out forward as he isn’t anywhere near as effective elsewhere but rooney can cut it as a number 10.

  • 168 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    AP has been fined £100,000 already, and will get more from the FA next week. If a fan was offered the punishments that Pards is getting, (mainly the high fines) or a small fine and long ban, which would you take.

    Blackley and Brownlie can slaver on as much as he want about criminal records etc. but at the end of the day Pards will be punished far worse than any fan would be.

    I am not a fan of AP and he deserves everything he gets, I even wanted him sacked, but I been after that for a while now. (never going to happen) So we just have to move on and hope for a strong finish to this season.

  • 169 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    Think we should ignore b&b – we’re just fueling his ego – he thinks he’s on points of view

  • 170 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:38 PM

    Sagey I a know they should ask that Blacky he knows everything about the law

  • 171 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    Toonking
    Agree with that, think Abeid is a box to box CM not 100% sure just going off the odd match report, really don’t watch any Greek football tbh!

    On Tav, i ‘d hope we will bring in another CB this summer and would much prefer Ryan ” over the wall ” Tayls as cover for RB than Tav, still have nightmares about Wayne Bridge leaving Tav for dust!

    Sammy for me has looked very good this season in his appearances but needs to sharpen his final ball up, if he could get better at deliveries he’d be lethal with that pace of his!!

  • 172 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    I resent being called a messer rex. I prefer to think of myself as the sober, calm sort. I generally abhor frivolity. It has no place in a footy blog. This is the place for serious legal and financial issues to be debated. I hope we’re all on the same wavelength now, although I generally feel negative towards those as well.

  • 173 mindshaft // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    Anyone know when pard’s will find out his fate ?

  • 174 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:41 PM

    rex

    I don’t know why blackley feels so strongly, when like i saw you see a lot worse happen in town and people just get chucked out the club and told to get home with no criminal record…..but the guy is a solid poster and must have his reasons

  • 175 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:41 PM

    Sage
    Kind of agree, but when you look at that 11 there are a hell of a lot of, well, injury prone crocks in that squad, with a lot if lads waiting in the wings with no real experience
    England never seem to have a plan B

  • 176 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:44 PM

    tads

    True, but most are solid and having good seasons.

    I’m not as down beat as some, think we can make the quarters, maybe even semis, we have a real goal threat, creativity and decent defenders, with a potentially top class keeper.

    we are certainly no worse than italy or uraguay who people seem to think will steamroller us

  • 177 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:45 PM

    Sagey he isn’t the only moaning minny towndownsarf is a right one talkin Barry white

  • 178 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:45 PM

    Toonking
    Fully agree, Sturridge has to be the main CF with Rooney playing deeper
    Rooney for me is great in that number 10 role it just doesn’t work the other way round

  • 179 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:46 PM

    Can we please get back to discussing Armstrong’s giant heed? Pards will be punished severely and we will move on. There will be a parade, supporters will frolic. Beautiful.

  • 180 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:47 PM

    Geordie T eh?

  • 181 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:47 PM

    Sage
    They are mate but the likes of cole/Baines G.Johnson Gerrard Rooney all seem to pick up injuries
    Add to that your Walcotts and Wilsheres we have a team of bloody glass men!

  • 182 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:48 PM

    Barry White you say rex? Beautiful. I’ll see your Barry White and come back with The Captain and Toenail.

  • 183 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:48 PM

    Beauty rex @180.

  • 184 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:49 PM

    G2
    I’ve heard Ashley insisted on bring Armstrong through so he could a Sports Direct advert plastered across his forehead and having floating over the stadium on match day!

  • 185 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:50 PM

    tads

    true, but we have a a good selection of back up players too i feel….i know we wont win it, could go out in the groups, but as much chance as the others to progress.

    geordie2

    maybe we can set young armstrong up to nut pardew?

  • 186 toon kk // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:51 PM

    I wonder how we keep getting linked with certain players when its all speculation.
    Two loan signings over two transfer windows is a strange way forward, so looks like Mash has a new strategy and that’s gamble with our future to boost profits.

  • 187 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:52 PM

    Geordie T that jack Wiltshire is a funny old shape you couldn’t bend wire that shape

  • 188 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:54 PM

    Those are excellent ideas tads and TS. Now we’re thinking effectively. There are many uses for a giant heed. We could set him up on the goal line beside Krul. Hard on the lad’s face but think how many shots he would block.

  • 189 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    Speaking of wired what about Pards rex? He’s ready to stot some heeds at a moments notice.

  • 190 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    Do anybody know what’s happened to John Tudor because he has not been on for a while.

  • 191 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    Blackley

    But you are against one rule for one man, and another for anothet man. So how is it fair for Pardew to get a criminal record for something done in the heat of the game, but not for a player. If you want legal equality between men in the street and men in football, it has to be everyone, or else you are shooting yoir wholr argument down.
    Me and others keep explaining this but it still seems like you only want Pardew done. Offensive language, especially sexual swear words seen on t.v. are just as offensive to viewers as violence, and is just as illeagal in the street, and can get you a criminal record for breach of the peace. Should every Manager therefore not have a criminal record?

  • 192 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:57 PM

    Mindshaft

    Points of view ? what about question time ..All the questions you hear/see on TV are rigged ..Mate of mine at Longbenton gets all the questions week before the show/debate ..He supplies all the answers to the politicians on this and that and statistics ,as the politicians don’t know the answers to anything ..its all researched and the answers come from Newcastle.

    So when you see the panel asked a question ..they have already had the question and a lackey has attended to it all and stuck the answer in front of them days before the actual show, its all Rigged.

    Mind that mate of mine is sh*t with his figures when he’s piss*ed on a Friday night .. Civil Servants Eh ! who’d love em ! It’s your round Ralphie.

  • 193 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    Yes where is old JT? We must remain the Fellowship of the Blog. I want the role of Blog Hobbit.

  • 194 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    191Markaccus

    How are you this evening mate 1 serious question to ask you

  • 195 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    sage
    the last players who i think showed much tempo was terry and beckham. Now they generally find it too easy to get picked and are probably more concerned about injury and their club matches.

    that’s likely where TADS thoughts come into the debate. most of that team is likely to be the same starting 11 as the world cup one. When we are constantly going to choose the likes of rooney, gerrard, cole and cleverly, it’s sort of sending out a message that’s telling them they can play as poor as they like without much risk of getting dropped and in cleverly’s case it goes as far as saying as long as you play for a big team you can be picked because if he played for southampton or newcastle he would certainly not be in the england squad.

    it’s a bit like in newcastles case pardew constantly using saylor ahead of mbiwa or dropping dummett when santon returns. Willo this season has done so well and it’s likely been because he knew he was 4th choice to start with so when he was given his chance as sub at everton he took it well and knows that their is risk of loosing it if he under performs.

  • 196 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    Eh Geordie T you lost me pal

  • 197 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    G2

    Or maybe we could use his giant heed as part of some kind of fair ground game….like tossing a hula hoop over it to win a giant toy magpie

  • 198 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:00 PM

    Will you be wearing your red jersey on Sunday

  • 199 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:01 PM

    toonking

    but i think everyone who started (except cole) deserved their place, as did those who came on (except welbeck)

  • 200 toon kk // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:02 PM

    G2
    How do you think Pards would cope under German rule?

  • 201 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:04 PM

    Online Guy

    I do apologise for not answering. Are your questions designed to test whether I have a hidden agenda? Please accept what I’m saying that I have no hidden agenda.

    It is a good point that you make though because so many people are treating me as if I have a hidden agenda. Let me forego your test for the time being and let me answer it my way.

    First, am I arguing for Pardew to be sacked.? No. The sacking aspect is another question.

    Second, what is the main line of my arguments? What are they directed at? Simply that Pardew should be treated the same as anyone else who takes the law into their own hands at a football match and did to a rival fan what he did to Meyler. If Pardew felt Meyler’s push warranted a serious response, he should have involved the police himself.

    The fine that he got from the magistrates would be absolutely negligible compared to the fine from the club and FA. So what problem do people have with him going before the magistrates? As I said to the Chief Inspector, it might be just the wake up call he needs, given that the FA have failed to keep him in check in the past.

    Moreover, it would certainly be in the public interest to press charges, even if it is just for a minor offence. Massively so. It would mean that people would know that sort of behaviour is not acceptable. Now if the police want to bring charges for that sort of behaviour, the public will rightly think it’s not fair that the man who should be setting an example has actually avoided the law.

    That is why I keep going on about it. We don’t want that sort of violence at football grounds. People should not put their brows into other people’s faces (never mind shut their eyes and push in one action) no matter what the provocation, unless acting in self-defence.

    The fine that Pardew gets from the FA is another matter completely, and I’ve made little or no comment on that at all.

    In all the many words I’ve written on this whole subject, I’ve posted one or two lines saying the FA should throw the book at him NOT LEAST BECAUSE he has escaped the blemish of getting a criminal record.

    Some people who don’t care about a criminal record ought to think that I’m being fairly lenient. If I had my way, he’d be treated the same as anyone else by the courts and get a reasonable fine, which would by tiny compared to what the club has meted out.

    Can I just ask what the problem is with Pardew going to the magistrates? Is it because of the shame it would bring to the club?

  • 202 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:06 PM

    201Blackley and Brownlie /

    Give it a rest

  • 203 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:06 PM

    welsh
    lets forget about JT as the blog seems to be in a rare period where the main talking points are football and friendly.

  • 204 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:06 PM

    blackley

    you’re missing the point though…as both parties involved made contact, with meyler making the initial and more significant contact.

    also meyler does not want to press charges….therefore in the outside world they would do nothing

  • 205 Transfer Sage // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    anyway i’m off for the night, have fun all

    no more pardew from me tomorrow, finished once and for all with this debate as we’ve all talked it to death

  • 206 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    His fingers must be covered in blisters al that typin

  • 207 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    203toonking

    Yeah I know, just think it’s a bit weird he hasn’t been in for a while and he’s normally arguing with someone on this blog.

  • 208 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:11 PM

    Come on Markaccus where are you

  • 209 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    So glad you have not got your way then. Any fan would be punished just once. AP will be punished twice for the same crime. Enough of this drivel about getting him a criminal record, he is getting far more punishment than the courts could give.

  • 210 rex // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:13 PM

    Good neet am of for a kip

  • 211 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:13 PM

    Welsh

    sorry mate a bit busy tonight.

    im fine cheers, you? What is your serious question?

  • 212 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:15 PM

    T sage

    ahhhhh but meyler is a player, and apparently gets more leeway than the dark lord Voldapard.

  • 213 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:15 PM

    209firebug666

    If Blackley and Brownlie had his way he would bring back either hanging or the electric chair.

  • 214 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:16 PM

    the difference between the sammy who was on loan and the sammy we see this season, has got me thinking if we are to send our youngsters out on loan why not send them out to a team who is expected to be no higher than 11th in the league as them teams will be just as weak as the championship teams but what they can do is give us an idea of how well they will manage in the premier league.

  • 215 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:16 PM

    Blackley

    Thank you for your well constructed and Concise answer ..here’s a question

    If a hyped up aggressive member of the public, note: Public,
    Rushes up to me on Newcastle quayside and violently barges into me with both hands into my chest, knocking me of balance in a deliberate act ,

    Can I then use reasonable force in self defence ? let’s say I touched the attackers face with my face ..and pushed him gently away…

    Have I committed an offence? or is it deemed to be Self defence from an unprovoked attack on my person ?

    With respect, I cannot wait to hear your answer to that scenario.

  • 216 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:16 PM

    Will you be wearing you red jersey on sunday

  • 217 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:17 PM

    Emperor Pardpatine, also known as Darth Nuttious.

  • 218 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:18 PM

    Welsh.

    I get on with you on here, but you are treading on dangerous ground, mate 😉

  • 219 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:18 PM

    Evening welshgeordie9,
    Aye he seems to have some metal issues or obsessions regarding AP. Maybe he should seek out some professional help, and get it out of his system.

  • 220 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:19 PM

    Sorry mate I couldn’t resist

  • 221 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:19 PM

    I will be burning leeks. Daffodils wont be growing round mine, if they know whats good for them, and i hope Tom Jones has a bad day on “The Voice” 😀

  • 222 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:20 PM

    219firebug666

    He’s like a little child who just wants attention

  • 223 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:21 PM

    What about Electric Hanging? No way would anyone survive that!

  • 224 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:21 PM

    Mental*

  • 225 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:22 PM

    I am sure Pardew didnt expect the spannish inquisition……

  • 226 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:22 PM

    Online Guy

    I’ve just read your post @ 166. You say, “I think a few soul’s on this ere’ blog are wondering why you are taking this stance against Pardew..Puzzled because of the fact you are a Newcastle Supporter ..Who would want more trouble and Ridicule poured onto our club than we already suffer ? You are a Newcastle United supporter I take it Brownlie ? Do you want Blood from Pardew ..what’s your beef ? ,as they say in Little Italy …

    I think we’re getting to the heart of all the opposition I’m getting. I’ll answer your points.

    NUFC is my club as much as anyone’s. I go to every home game, and the odd away game. Pardew has brought shame on the club. His appearing before the magistrates will bring a little shame on him.

    But there are things far more important in life than football believe it not. Democracy, for example, or in this case, fair treatment, equality before the law, and continuation of the move away from violence in society. It might be common place, but let’s keep moving away from it.

    In the past I wouldn’t have thought quite so much about acting like Pardew at a football ground or anywhere else. That’s how things were. But far better people than me have helped to clamp down on violent behaviour. I have managed to deal with loads of far more annoying incidents than what Pardew had to encounter from Meyler, and managed to keep my cool, knowing full well of course that if I escalate it, I could end up in trouble with the law. Like or not, that is how people have to start behaving these days if they want to avoid a trip to the magistrates. Are you telling me now I needn’t have been so restrained?

  • 227 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:22 PM

    …….hope somebody is a Python fan…..

  • 228 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:23 PM

    Toonking
    Been my biggest gripe with the academy

    We don’t seem to loan players to the right clubs at the right age
    Take Tavernier or Ferguson
    These lads aren’t youngsters anymore tbh there 22, one is on loan at league 1 and one at a bottom end championship club
    At this stage surely they should be at least a top 6 fizzy pop club or a palace?

  • 229 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:23 PM

    Ha ha very funny

    I think it will be a good game, you not going to be in a bad mood with me if we win.

  • 230 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:23 PM

    Electric hanging, in a gas chamber…. sorry was thinking about Mashly for a minute… OH NO! I’m turning into JFA.

  • 231 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:25 PM

    Again….. so it is ok for the player but not the manager…..you cant shout for legal equality and fair treatment, then absolve players. It is Bovine Feaces!!!

  • 232 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:27 PM

    Online Guy

    The way everyone is talking, you’d think I did want blood. No. Just a little trip to the magistrates to pick up a fine. Join the queue with the rest of us, Alan.

    You guys will get Pardew back in one piece. The beaks won’t peck his eyes out. They won’t be giving him a banning order. It’s the FA who might well give him that.

  • 233 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:28 PM

    Welsh

    It depends… Welsh rugby fans tend to accuse the english of arrogance if they win. There is only one thing worse than a bad loser…. and that is a bad winner, and i am affraid Your rugby loving compatriots are TERRIBLE winners.

    I think we will win, but only because we are at home, and you lot arejot as good as last year.

    If you win i wont take it out on you, but the first one to say the english were arrogant will be hunted down and killed like a dog 😀

  • 234 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:30 PM

    Firebug…..

    Electric hanging in a gas chamber, in front of a firing squad, while receiving a lethal injection

  • 235 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:31 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie, IT’s not going to happen EVER, so why Oh why are you still belabouring on about it. Move on life is too short. Seek professional help and bring an end to your mental torture.

  • 236 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    Markaccus
    Head…………banging…………..brickwall……..

  • 237 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    …..but then again, if he dies in a gas chamber, it will be considdered anti simetic (spell check) and he will have to receive a post-mortem fine.

  • 238 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    Tads.

    Yes. My head hurts.

  • 239 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    Markaccus,
    Electric hanging in a gas chamber, in front of a firing squad, while receiving a lethal injection, then draw and quartered through the streets.

  • 240 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    I’m back. Had to slip out and patrol the parapet. My new honey badger is a bit antsy. The wolverines will knock some of the cockiness out of him I’m sure.

  • 241 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:34 PM

    Markaccus

    make the best team win

    COME ON WALES

    Only joking

    Wait till Sunday and then you can take the mickey

  • 242 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:35 PM

    Firebug

    ….only after he has been flayed alive and rolled in salt.

  • 243 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:36 PM

    Firebug

    we sound like a Film directed by Mel Gibson…..The Passion Of The Pardew!!!!!

  • 244 welshgeordie9 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:37 PM

    It’s quite funny that I started this electric shock and gas chamber comments oh and hanging.

  • 245 Average_Contents // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    Sorry fellow bloggers as I do believe it was me who baited bnb! (not intentionally I might add) I was the one who found an article which I thought was bnb moaning about pardew not being charged and mentioned his name so the fun began. Which by the way I do find rather amusing as it sent his OCD into super duper hyperdrive regarding said matter :) talking of OCD I’m off to check my door handle works correctly (up down up down at least 4 times) even numbers only fellow freaks 😉

  • 246 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    Markaccus
    Electric hanging in a gas chamber, in front of a firing squad, while receiving a lethal injection, then draw and quartered through the streets, flayed alive and rolled in salt then sent into battle against the white rabbit who defeated the Knights of Nee

  • 247 martoon // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    Markaccus @225 – No one expects the Spanish inquisition :)

  • 248 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:42 PM

    Online Guy

    Someone violently attacked you by pushing you with two hands to your chest and knocking you back a bit. If you react immediately in self-defence and take reasonable action, that’s fine. If the guy walks away, you’re no longer acting in self defence. People would expect you to no more than he did to you if you’re no longer in any threat from him. If you felt so aggrieved by it, the sensible course would be to follow him at a distance and call the police. The police will make a judgment as to whether it would be in the public interest to prosecute fro a violent assault or a public order offence.

    In the circumstances of the Meyler case, if Pardew hadn’t reacted, then at the most, people would expect him simply to make a written complaint to his club or through the FA. At the extreme, Pardew could have asked the police to get involved but he would have looked a bit of a tatey. The police would have probably just given Meyler some words of advice (and Pardew too).

    What’s the point of your scenario?

    I’ll have to go now. I told TADS I’d be away ages ago. Catch up later.

  • 249 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    Martoon

    hahahaaa thank you 😀

    Put him in the COMFY CHAIR!!

  • 250 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    I like it “The passion of Pardrew” or “The dead Pardrew Sketch”.

  • 251 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    Blackley

    Read your last post @26..it’s all interesting.

    I cant go over all of your Point’s but I have digested it all.. It’s a good debate.

    When you say this “Are you telling me now I needn’t have been so restrained? .

    Me.. (food for thought )

    Can you not see the fracas at Hull as a case of self defence from an unprovoked attack on a person ?

    My question on the Quayside scenario its in a public place, as is the football ground at Hull.

    Lots I could go over with you on your last post there, ..some good reading in it and as I say food for thought .

    Pardew’s altercation all happened so fast, TV keeps showing it in slow motion ..as though anyone had time to think about the spontaneous reaction to an attack by the Hull player ..are you glossing over the nasty aggressive attack by the Hull player ..and if you’r not was it not then a case of self defence ?

  • 252 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:44 PM

    TADS
    sir john hall is the owner who i’m thinking got our academy into the state it is currently.

    So going on the impression that ashley has shown the future of academy looks like the once in a blue moon type event. The reason i say this is he seems to use newcastle as a player factory creating them when they young then selling them in their mid-late 20’s, the best way for that to work is to have a decent academy.

    Then again we could bring through lots of decent youth but how are they going to get experience if ashley insists on only spending money on players for the starting 11.
    remy shola possibly cisse and dejong all out leaving us with no striker at all just gouffran who is in winger position ATM and cambell and armstrong both who are very young.

    so ashley can improve the academy all he wants but even he likely won’t change the way we are treating our youth when he decides not to spend on the squad depths

  • 253 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:45 PM

    Firebug

    and being forced to provide a SHRUBBERY!

  • 254 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:47 PM

    “The life of Pardew”

    after all… he’s not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy 😀

  • 255 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:47 PM

    I hope you lot don’t come to this failed barrister for advice when you find you’ve been lifted for overstepping the mark a little at a football match. I wouldn’t mind sitting in the public gallery to see it though.

  • 256 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    Markaccus
    PMSL, I have to admit, that’s been coming for a while now but you worked it in before me, brilliant.

  • 257 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    Online Guy

    I don’t think the camera picked it up, but read later that Pardew’s hair got ruffled.

  • 258 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    Your tenacious I’ll give you that, but if I ever need any advice I would seek my own legal council, by the time you got through writing up the notes for the case i would have already done five years.

  • 259 toonking // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:53 PM

    TADS
    thanks for the chat mate
    i think i’ve had enough for tonight as their is just too much nonsense going about

    so i guess it’s time for me to follow the route TS had done and leave the blog for tonight as it looks as though we are the only 2 who can talk football, the rest want to talk about torture, just seeing glinses of it on the blog is like torture for us who want to talk football

  • 260 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY

    Confess!!!

  • 261 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    Toonking

    it is pointless talking football. I tried joining in about the England team earlier, but it kept being broken up by Judge John Deed and his team of crack lawyers

  • 262 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    Toonking
    No worries mate

    No doubt tomorrow will be more attempts at submitting exam like essays in attempt to have them deemed worthy of another attempt to pass the bar

  • 263 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    Well I think we can now call this Pardew Debate Blackleygate.

    It will go down in the annuls of ED’s Canny Blogg as the strangest, longest..wonder the hell why?, debate, ever .

    My last word on it.. Unless agitated .

    Pardew was acting in self defence ..it all happened spontaneously and quick, due to the nature and force of an unprovoked… UNPROVOKED ATTACK.. on him from a Hull City player and if this had been Manchester United and Sir Alex Ferguson Myler would have been up before the FA not Pardew .

    This is the biggest injustice I have ever come across in Football..the Attacker is not prosecuted and the victim Is on a charge

    How F**cking blind are the media and the FA ? and the public ..all going along with it like F**ing Sheep

    The Media’s hate for all things Newcastle United knows no bounds, it’s a feeding frenzy on the negative..always is ..They wait with slavering mouth’s like Hyena’s for the next instalment they can all blow up and manipulate a dumbed down public with . .

  • 264 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:05 PM

    Markaccus
    so so funny, had to watch it again like, now I think I shall seek out my comfy cushions and suffer some ZZZZZzzzzzz’s might even keep our lass up snoring…

  • 265 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:07 PM

    Firebug666

    Hahaha. Good job I’m a failed barrister. Can you imagine if I was charging Ed by the word?

    I certainly got the temperatures rising on radio newcastle. Someone had to stop his car and ring in immediately.

  • 266 Markaccus // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:08 PM

    Firebug

    aye im off too.

    Take care everyone, goodnight.

  • 267 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:15 PM

    Blackley

    Reading between the lines I think you might be a tad hurt by people coming back at you in droves on this debate.

    Don’t be, it’s just business and debate ..your point is as important as the next man’s .

    Cant understand why you felt the need to contact the Chief of Police at Humberside HQ though ..I was going to suggest you are taking this far to serious .. like me ! but each to his own I suppose .. Can we call this one Blackleygate ?

  • 268 Ciaran // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:44 PM

    What did I miss?

  • 269 Belfast // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    Well ruddy, We sent in blackley for the mental challenge, and he actually ended up going mental.

  • 270 Belfast // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:54 PM

    Didn’t even get us any crystals ffs

  • 271 Ciaran // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:55 PM

    Belfast

    It is interesting how the people who end up taking exception to me tend to be raving lunatics…is there a causal link or do I simply attract that sort?

    You wouldn’t have been stirring the pot by any chance?

  • 272 Online Guy // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:56 PM

    Ciaran

    Its been interesting …I can safely say that.

  • 273 Belfast // Mar 6, 2014 at 11:58 PM

    Nope, I’ve just been watching from the sidelines.

    I do agree that most of your enemies end up being raving mad looney bins though.

    Maybe they’re all the same person.

  • 274 Ciaran // Mar 7, 2014 at 12:00 AM

    Belfast

    Interesting theory, one that I haven’t considered, but it is definitely food for thought.

    Online

    Interesting? Looks like a lot of pompous repetitive drivel to me.

  • 275 Mister Tuff // Mar 7, 2014 at 12:18 AM

    I see that tool Savage in still ranting on about the Percy incident in his Mirror article. Now saying that Percy’s indiscipline has spread in the club and mentioned Carvers, Woodheads dismissals and the Donache incident.
    He talks about Percys vulgar language – joke when you consider the “shit in the refs room” incident I posted earlier.He winges saying he’s only been sent off once -not true it’s twice -seems he is doing a JFK memory lapse. He still holds the record for the most yellow cars -standing at 89.

  • 276 Mister Tuff // Mar 7, 2014 at 12:19 AM

    error -yellow cars = yellow cards.

  • 277 MelbToon // Mar 7, 2014 at 2:26 AM

    Review of Hull indident.

    Action 1: Pardew being clever by letting the ball run through his legs instead of trapping the ball for the throw in.

    Action 2: Meyler gets frustrated by Pardew’s time wasting tactics and shoves Pardew.

    Action 3: Pardew, like any other grown man, doesn’t like to be pushed around. Pardew delivers a half hearted headbutt/headpush on Meyler, which was unprofessional and embarassing.

    Outcome: Massive overreaction. It was a heated exchange in the moment of an important game, lets get on with the football.

    While Pardew’s actions were unprofessional and embarassing for our club, we are all human. He regretted his actions immediately, he has and will be further reprimanded for his actions, lets all just get on with it.




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