Pardew Issues Warning To Newcastle Strikers


If Luuk de Jong and Papiss Cisse want to be at Newcastle United come September, then both of them will need to start scoring some goals.

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Luuk de Jong – needs to score goals to get permanent deal

That’s the message from Newcastle manager Alan Pardew today, as he is preparing the side for our next game which is a week tomorrow at Craven Cottage against bottom of the league Fulham – but even that match will be a tough one.

Shola Ameobi will be leaving Newcastle this summer when his contract runs out and will not be renewed, and this season he’s scored on one Capital One (League) Cup goal in 20 appearances this season.

And Loic Remy, who’s scored 13 league goals in just 24 appearances this season, is likely to want to move to a Champions League club when his loan spell at Newcastle ends in May.

Alan Pardew was talking plain and simple and to the point today, about both Luuk and Papiss:

“Both of those guys need to score goals between now and the end of the year. “They are both going to get chances and they are going to need to take them. That’s the competition I need.”

Papiss has scored only three goals in 20 appearances this season, but he also needs some playing time so he can put the ball into the back of the net.

And Luuk is likely to start up front at Craven Cottage with Loic Remy in eight days time, but the Dutch International has to start hitting the back of the net if he wants a permanent deal at Newcastle in the summer.

But whatever happens to Luuk and Papiss, Newcastle will still need to bring in at least two new strikers in the summer, and maybe even four if Luuk de Jong and Papiss fail to score enough goals in the last 10 games of the season.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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196 comments so far

  • Ciaran

    Mar 7, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #1

    Even if de Jong doesn’t score between now and the end of the season, if Pardew doesn’t recognise that Luuk is the link man in that #9 role that we’ve been so desperately crying out for, then it really is curtains for AP.

    If de Jong doesn’t score/doesn’t score enough, then AP will claim that 8.5m (or whatever price around that ballpark is being quoted for him) is too expensive, when in reality, for a very good CF it is a snip.

    Don’t be holding your breath folks. Gomis on a free is the more likely possibility.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Mar 7, 2014 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #2

    Ciaran
    Because he got us out the shite that Shepherd got us into – fleecing the club when we were skint – couln’t even get a loan unless we payed over the odds on interest at 11%.

    To me a lot of people think a good owner is a person who throws millions/billions on buying players.

    Three clubs who I think are well run without spending billions are Everton, Newcastle and Arsenal.

    We are in a stable/good position now no chance of relegation time to move on this summer – money in the bank decent squad that needs strengthening

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  • SpecialK

    Mar 7, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #3

    Sunderland are very likely to escape relegation?

    What is this assumption based upon?

    I would have them down as one of the favourites to go down.

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  • dufuss

    Mar 7, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #4

    bob hope and no hope

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 7, 2014 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #5

    Ciaran

    There is zero evidence of whether LDJ or Gomis would be a better bet in that role. LDJ has had a decent start I’d say even without scoring but it depends on interest and finances. Cisse started off amazingly but he’s now tailed off sadly.

    Gomis on a free would free up money for other areas. Depends how Pardew is rating LDJ’s contribution. At least I hope that’s what it comes down to.

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  • Ciaran

    Mar 7, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #6

    Charlie

    And what shite was it that Shepherd got us in to? Yes we had made significant losses the 2 season prior to Ashley buying us over, but the myth that we would have went into administration or even been in any serious financial dilemma is exactly that – a myth.

    Add to that fact that Ashley’s mismanagement of the club in the 08/09 season directly contributed to our relegation – as well as the denigration of 2 club legends along the way – I would say that Ashley did more harm to our club in 12 months than Shepherd ever did to NUFC.

    I assume I don’t need to add to the discussion the renaming of St James’ Park, selling players to replace them with cheaper alternatives, thus ensuring that we are in a constant state of ‘squad building’ and reducing a vast amount of our former football fans into pseudo-accountants.

    Let me ask you this, while we have made a £9.9m profit according to latest figures, how is that going to help us reach our potential?

    Do you genuinely believe Ashley will invest in the summer?

    If he doesn’t, will your stance of ‘supporting Ashley’ change?

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  • beermonkey

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #7

    Ciaran

    ashleys tenure at at the club has been a disaster
    were not the only club to have crap owners

    were entering potentially a new era what with all the cash
    if and its a big if, if he does as he said he would when he took over he would let us spend what we make
    how long will it take for peoples opinion changes
    or if it ever will

    I would be happy to have an owner that made regular investments and maximised the our brand

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  • Ciaran

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #8

    TDS

    Cisse and LDJ is like comparing apples and oranges. Cisse’s contributions were based on goals, whereas LDJ’s are being based on performances.

    It is easy to spot a good CF. A good CF recognises the space taken by his strike partner, works in tandem with him and shows good feet, awareness and aerial strength – all of which LDJ has shown, none of which Cisse has ever shown, because they are 2 different types of strikers.

    What I do know is that for 8.5 million I would have LDJ every day of the week because it is a position which we vitally need investment in. If we sign Gomis on a free there is nothing to suggest that the money ‘saved’ on that deal would be appropriated elsewhere on a further signing – if anything, recent transfer windows would suggest otherwise.

    Even if we were paid to sign Gomis, I would not want him. The man is a slightly younger, slightly better version of Shola. I.e He’s pants.

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  • oldbobaycliffe

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #9

    watching the england match the panel of experts all praised southampton saying how good they are yet they currently stand 4 points behind us and we did not spend what southampton did so why have we no faith in pardew he must be dong something right

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  • Ben3arfa

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #10

    Papiss is finished

    De Jong will score before the end of the season .

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  • Ciaran

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #11

    Anyway Ashley Out, new signings In and all that jazz, I couldn’t be arsed going over it all again because it falls on deaf ears every time.

    If someone, after 7 years, still supports Ashley then I really question their judgement and their decision making. I would venture a guess that there are a few choice decisions in other aspects but we’ll not go there.

    Ashley is poisonous for the long term future of this club and I want him gone.

    On that bombshell I am out of here.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #12

    Pardew…you know you bear some responsibility for players underperforming, dreadful tactics and uninspiring subs.

    …you want the players to start scoring then start with the man in the mirror.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #13

    Cairan

    A Few facts about Halls and Shepherds….

    Totals made from Newcastle United in a 6 year period

    Sir John, Douglas and Cameron Hall: £36,466,153

    Freddy Shepherd and Shepherd Offshore: £ 8,351,298

    Total £44,817,451
    That equals over &7 million per year

    In summary what Shepherd left was a club that was losing over £30m a year, had debts of £70m, had no assets they could borrow more money against, and had a set of players on long, lucrative contracts. Ashley can get rid of the debt but the £30m annual losses with over paid players will take longer to sort out.

    Figures compiled with assistance of Ian Ferguson from the now defunct website http://www.nufc-finances.org.uk

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #14

    Charlie

    Did you see my response to you in the last thread?

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  • Ciaran

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #15

    Last point to Charlie

    When Shepherd left, yes the club was losing 30m a year, and had made a similar loss the year before, but a substantially lesser loss the year before that. Who is to say that Shepherd would not have addressed this deficit in due course without selling to Ashley?

    Yes Shepherd and the Halls paid themselves handsomely and some people take great exception to that, I myself think that the club would not have even been in the position it was in for them to do that had it not been for Sir John Hall taking the club by the scruff of the neck and dragging it, alongside Kevin Keegan, into the riches of the Premier League.

    We would not have our fantastic stadium if it was not for Sir John Hall, and thanks to Ashley selling ground around SJP we will now never see it expanded beyond its current capacity.

    Just because Halls/Shepherd weren’t fantastic owners in your eyes, does not automatically make Ashley a good owner.

    I asked you what makes Ashley a good owner and you have failed to answer that question – because it cannot be answered, not with any semblance of common sense at least.

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  • toon kk

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #16

    Does anyone know how many goals Gomis has scored for his club so far this season?

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  • Markaccus

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #17

    Its the same old same old re ashley.

    Yes our books are healthy, but the guy just keeps making stupid football related mistakes, and has no care for the history of the club, nor its traditions. NUFC stands for marketing these days, there is no pride or honour left.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #18

    Toon doon Sooth

    Yeah I agree that Ashledy is not the best communicator link between club and fans and alienates people but I am willing to support him because I think we are slowly building in a very good football team with sound finaces…. and I am wooried if he sells and we get some complete utter shitester in.

    Better the devil you know!!!!

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  • mindshaft

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #19

    Sunderland are likely to escape relegation simply due to the fact that Cardiff and Fulham are near certs to go down and Sunderland probably have the easiest run in

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #20

    Ciaran

    SJH deserves massive credit for what he did and he is more responsible for that exciting period in the 90s even more than Keegan. Keegan was lucky to be involved at that time as was every player that we bought but the combination between SJH, Keegan and the players was electric. Just a shame that it didn’t result in the silverware that it deserved!

    But it’s been a decline since he gave up control to Douglas Hall and FFS. Even a world class manager in SBR could only arrest that slide so much and for so long.

    Judging the quality of something, it has to be compared to others. Our squad is awesome compared to 25 years ago, we’d probably win the league with this team, but compared to the current teams, we’re probably where we deserve to be in 8th.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #21

    Charlie

    I’ll agree with the better the devil you know comment as I’m one of those people who isn’t demanding that he leaves. We’re stable on the business front, but we do need more stability on the football front (Pardew headbutting, JFK ranting, DoF changes, poor transfer decisions, fan discontent, sponsor issues etc.)

    I don’t support him any more than I support the owner of Tesco just because I shop there.

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  • Markaccus

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #22

    Mindshaft

    After a few games of the season, my 3 teams to go down were Sunderland, Palace and Fulham. In any order 😀

    I still think Sunderland will go, but i think cardif will replace Palace.
    If like you say, Cardif and fulham do go down and makems survive,, who would be your 3rd team? Palace? Or do you have someone else in mind?

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  • catchy in norway

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #23

    jesperfuglsang – captain of the lemon crew

    I think pardews tactics should bare more of the blame than the players, I think the players will score goals given chances and some confidence,
    the very fact that we have the highest number of shots from outside the area and the lowest in the area should tell you we don’t create a lot for our strikers,

    also, cisse has had at least 3 goals ruled offside when they were good goals..

    he is not so bad, he just goes on the pitch knowing he has to score with maybe his only chance

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  • Shadow_Shearer

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #24

    Big LDJ looks a good player. He’s getting better with every game. It’s gonna take him time to get to his prolific best, the form he showed in Holland. Same way it took Debuchy time to settle and start showing his best.

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  • Ciaran

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #25

    TDS

    Without Keegan we’d have been relegated into the old Third Division in the 1991/92 season. SJH was massively important to us reaching the Premier League, but Keegan is the reason we got there.

    SBR arrested the decline, in the sense that we finished 4th, 3rd and 5th under SBR, so I would say that we weren’t in decline under wor Bobby.

    It was the ludicrous managerial appointments, poor signings, followed by the woeful management of the club by Ashley that saw a steady decline turn into a disastrous crash out of the Premier League.

    We don’t have better players in our squad than those we had when Keegan had us competing for the league. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

    Vurnon Anita or Rob Lee?
    Loic Remy or Alan Shearer?
    Papiss Cisse or Les Ferdinand?
    Ben Arfa or Peter Beardsley?
    Yoan Gouffran or David Ginola?
    Mike Williamson or Phillipe Albert?

    We have some very good individuals in our squad, a squad which is very weak in certain areas, and one which Keegan could undoubtedly do much better with than Pardew, but better than the one we had in 1995/96? Not in my eyes.

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  • croftus5678

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #26

    i agree luuk does a hell of a lot more for us than just score !

    he should have had 3 assists and a goal atleast by now if it was not for stupid misses and sissoko getting in ahead of him for the goal.

    if we sign remy and luuk i’d be happy with remy/luuk/goofy combination tbh.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #27

    Toon
    Agree stable on the finance side
    On the field got a good team but need to build
    Manager I think he is a good manager – just needs to control his temper. players seem to like him
    PR – needs to be a lot, lot better

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  • toon kk

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #28

    For those people who stand by Ashley they Need to think again. The financial success is fare enough but on the whole he’s destroying the club as we knew it.
    So many p.d off fans can’t be good for any club.
    not saying he should brake the bank but two loan signings in two transfer windows isn’t just saving money it’s taking the p.ss out of devoted fans.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #29

    Ciaran

    25 years I said. That takes us back to 1989. Players these days are fitter and drawn from all over the world. Top foreigners mostly stayed in their countries but these days they are driven to the richest leagues. The winner of the league in 1989 would obviously have been the best team in the country that year but I think quite a few teams in the current PL would win it instead.

    You can only judge a team by comparing it to its peers, that’s what I mean. So comparing our team to others, I think it’s 8th best, comparing our owner to others I’d say he’s average or just below average for overall contribution. Financially stable but pathetic communication with fans.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #30

    Charlie

    Be careful about saying you’re an Ashley supporter on here though, it’s a bit like entering shark infested water with a paper cut…

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  • Shadow_Shearer

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #31

    Sad to say, but there is no chance the fat man will fork out 8.5 million for LDJ. He’d rather keep that to buy his doughnut and pies.

    Cisse will be kept as fat boy forked out 9 million on him. This season our main strikers are LDJ and remy. Next season it’s Gomis and cisse.

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  • Ciaran

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #32

    TDS

    Apologies, I skim read that part, because I didn’t understand why someone would compare our team now to a team that was relegated to the Second Division.

    A starker comparison would be to compare our 1989 team to our 1996 team. Our 1996 team was sensational in comparison to that one so I don’t know what point you’re trying to make.

    Ashley is better than McKeag?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #33

    Ciaran

    I’m comparing our team now to the team than won the league in 1989. Did you read my last post?

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  • Ciaran

    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #34

    TDS

    I also recognise that this is your way of subtly saying ‘compare our squad to every other team in the league and we are exactly where we should be’

    You do realise that if Ashley invested more, we would have a stronger squad and in relative terms should be competing higher in the league.

    Just because you believe, on the basis of the strength of our squad, that we should be 8th, does not mean that is good enough.

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  • catchy in norway

    Mar 7, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #35

    Ciaran

    this is something I don’t want to argue about, as I believe player for player no question, id take the older KK group,

    but I also think that its a little unfair to match them up under the guidance of pardew, KK played if your score 3 im going to score 4 attitude, maximising his attacking prowess , under pardew I feel we have some great attacking players that are being shackled with defensive duties before there natural attacking instincts,

    there are only 2 players in our current squad that I don’t think have anything to offer us as a group,
    Obertan
    Shola
    the rest , whilst not being the very best, there not a bad group, id love a real manager to get them and play to there strengths and not just try and fit them in,

    Sissoko, really good game last week, his best for a while and nearly all the good work came from him playing more centrally driving at them, he is wasted out on the right

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Mar 7, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #36

    Toon

    I know
    But I try to point out that Newcastle United are doing OK – compared to a lot of other teams that have spent billions changed managers and that’s just to stay in the premiership.

    Don’t think I will agree with Ciaran and Ashley but give Ciaran his due he argues his point/corner and backs it up not like some others.

    Now is the time to cement a top six spot and maybe win a cup

    BUT – I am a realist and to get into the top four we would have to spend a fortune year in year out.

    Running a football club is like have a credit card – MAGIC – the bank has increased my limit from 10,000 to 20,000 lets spend up to the max.
    Then OH DEAR I cannot pay back interest never mind my monthly payments

    And that’s what got a lot of people into debt in the credit crunch.
    and a lot of teams in the mire.

    And what frightens me is that a lot of people think we should spend spend spend and that means trouble if you cannot finance it

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  • NEoffers.co.uk

    Mar 7, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #37

    With no NUFC game on this weekend get your weekend plans with us and bag a bargain !

    http://neoffers.co.uk/

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 7, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #38

    Ciaran

    Subtly saying it? That’s exactly what I said, I’m not being subtle at all! But that wasn’t my point. My point was all about comparison, seriously did you read it?

    Compare our squad to the rest of the league and I’d say we’re 8th best but compare it to the teams in say 1995 and we’d be in the top 4 at least. Compare our current owner to SJH and he’s dreadful, compare him to more contemporary owners like those at Hull, Cardiff etc. and he’s not all that bad. Other recent owners that fans have had isuess with are at Pompey, Leeds, Liverpool, Everton, Man Utd.

    It’s not about Ashley investing more. I don’t expect him to put his own money into it. It’s about the club spending more. We’ve been spending what we get in, but now we all know (as do selling clubs) that we have significant money this summer. We have to expect that will be invested in the playing squad. No argument there at all.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 7, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #39

    Charlie

    You’re right mostly. But you have to think about the mistakes that Ashley has made and why some fans hate him and most are certainly not warm towards him. I’ve argued the same points as you mate but I certainly wouldn’t say that I am an Ashley supporter, just don’t agree with the irrational (at times) hatred that is directed at him.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Mar 7, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #40

    Toon
    trouble is too many fans have become entrenched as Ashley haters
    and Ashley has become entrenched in his views and there is no meeting place

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