Pardew Tries To Reduce Ban – Points To 2007 Precedent

Alan Pardew last night accepted an FA misconduct charge of headbutting on Hull midfielder David Meyler on Saturday, but the manager has requested a personal hearing.

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David Meyler and Alan Pardew last Saturday

We thought that was a good move by Pardew, since he will be able to tell what happened from his perspective,  after David Meyler started the confrontation by shoving Pardew on the touchline, as the Hull player went for the ball.

Hull were 3-1 down at the time after 71 minutes, and finally lost that game 4-1.

And the Mail is reporting that Pardew will rely on precedent, when a similar incident happened back in 2007, involving former Kidderminster Harriers manager Mark Yates.

Yates headbutted Exeter City player Lee Elam following his side’s 2-0 defeat in the Football Conference.

Yates is now the Cheltenham Town manager, and was given a four-match touchline ban and fined £350, and the fine was based on Yates’ wages at Kidderminster at the time.

So Pardew will be hoping the FA will be consistent (no chance) when they charge him, but there’s also reason to have the ban more than four matches because Pardew’s antics were seen around the world and reflected badly on the Premier League, Newcastle United and the manager himself.

However, the ban should only be a touchline ban and not a stadium ban – maybe of four or five games, and a large fine based on Alan Pardew’s wages at Newcastle, which are thought to be around £2M a year,  based to a large extent on performance and incentive bonuses.

And since Alan Pardew has already been warned by the FA about his conduct on the touchline this season, because of his verbal abuse of Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini, that will count against him.

In 2012 Pardew was given a two-game touchline ban for pushing assistant referee Peter Kirkup during a home game against Tottenham Hotspur, and way back in 2006 he had a famous altercation with Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger.

Newcastle United took immediate action when on the night of the altercation at Hull, and fined their manager £100,000 and formally warned him as to his future conduct as the Newcastle manager.

We would estimate that Alan should get a five or six match touchline ban and a huge fine – if the FA are to be consistent.

But that’s a big if.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

14 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 7, 2014 at 3:59 AM

    Comment #1

    Being thrown into a self fabricated viper pit is too good for Ashley.

  • jimmysmith

    Mar 7, 2014 at 4:15 AM

    Comment #2

    I think its important to be acutely aware and not lose sight of the fact that crowds can become immensely and irreversibly volatile and destructive forces quite quickly.

    Watching the melee caused by Lennons clash with Diouf and then McCoist on Youtube brought starkly to mind the violence that can erupt when a crowd turns into a mob with a vengeance, which has marred so many old firm clashes.

    Lennon and Diouf really did behave incredibly irresponsibly there and that easily could have been the catalyst for all sorts of mayhem, and possibly was in the aftermath.

    Pardews incident wasn’t anywhere near as volatile or inflammatory, but in different circumstances, a Tyne Wear derby for example, it may be a spark that could lead to some really violent frightening behaviour. In that respect alone, the FA really needs to get the message across to Pards this time.

  • jimmysmith

    Mar 7, 2014 at 4:43 AM

    Comment #3

    Why should he not get a stadium ban, Ed. I sincerely hope he doesn’t, because it will badly hinder our hopes in the final games. But I’m not sure that he shouldn’t.

    Then again, that technical area is right in the thick of it, really you’re on the pitch with them kicking every ball, and if one of the players had done it, it would result in no more than a red and a 3 match ban.

    Interesting to see what they will do?

  • ilovetoon8788

    Mar 7, 2014 at 5:15 AM

    Comment #4

    I want him to get a minimum 10 match ban touchline ban atleast. We can see where our team will be without him in charge. We have nothing to play for in the eyes of Ashley anyway.

    He doesn’t want europe and we have already avoided relegation. Lets see how the team is without him. 10 match ban please.

  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Mar 7, 2014 at 5:43 AM

    Comment #5

    Tads…have you been talking to Ed? 😉

    …Ed there is no precedent here and you even explained yourself partly why!

  • scout

    Mar 7, 2014 at 5:45 AM

    Comment #6

    Ill bet anyone it’s not 10 games!!!

  • catchy in norway

    Mar 7, 2014 at 6:15 AM

    Comment #7

    I’m hoping for a 48 match stadium ban, I prayed all night for it 😀

    I’m aloud to dream arnt I

    paul ince got a ten match stadium ban , and while Pardews was probably not as bad , he has previous mister meaners that will go against him , I think the very fact that it was a premiership match being beamed around the world could be his biggest enemy here ,

    like I say 48 matches please 🙂

  • Average_Contents

    Mar 7, 2014 at 6:17 AM

    Comment #8

    Ince got a 5 match catchy

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Mar 7, 2014 at 6:49 AM

    Comment #9

    How does that work?
    He’ll still be taking training, he’ll still be setting out the game plan and tactics and will still be selecting the line up
    On match day they will still find ways for him to communicate with his coaching staff on match day

    Him and his coaching staff aren’t a separate entity, there a team, they all work under Ashley, are you actually suggesting Pardew, and Pardew alone would deliberately lose games to avoid a push for Europe?
    Even Ashley can’t effect the match day results, despite his best efforts to break up the spine of the team and not strengthen key areas

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Mar 7, 2014 at 6:50 AM

    Comment #10

    He got a five match ban catchy

  • catchy in norway

    Mar 7, 2014 at 7:36 AM

    Comment #11

    so what your saying is im wrong, shock horror

    he should still get a 48 match ban, simple as

    pick up you P45 on the way out 😀

  • mindshaft

    Mar 7, 2014 at 7:55 AM

    Comment #12

    Bored of this story – done to death already

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Mar 7, 2014 at 8:05 AM

    Comment #13

    I’m pleased we don’t have a game this weekend, I wouldn’t want the focus taken off the atrocity that Pardew committed 6 days ago! Please can we continue discussions on how he should be banned for 100 games, given a jail sentence and maybe even publicly executed at the KC Stadium prior to their next home match. I feel all those punishments put together would still mean he is getting away lightly with such a heinous at of violence that he committed.

    On a more serious note, this topic and some of the more vehement posters on it, have made this blog unbearable the last few days. Every time I have been on it has been all about this and criminal proceedings, which all leads to quickly logging off and doing something more interesting like watching grass grow.

  • south coast toon

    Mar 7, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #14

    if a manager gets a two game ban for pushing an offical what does a player get for push a manager of the oposing team twice his age, i surport newcastle so from were i sit pards was justified not right but justified not like the young over payed thug that shoved him,
    what would joe jorden have done lol
    not bias just my opion handbags at best


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