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Is Time Running Out For Top Yong Player At Newcastle?

9:36 am, Monday, March 10th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 82 Comments

Haris Vuckic is on loan at Rotherham United through the end of the season, along with James Tavernier, and Haris has so far played 15 times with 3 goals, but he is on the bench a lot, and has started only seven of those games.

haris vuckic rotherham

Haris Vuckic - in action for Rotherham

And Haris has expressed his frustration at not getting the playing time he had hoped for at the League One club:

“It’s been frustrating because I’ve not had much starting time.” “I have not really been happy with my playing time and Newcastle haven’t been happy either,  as I came here to play, though I understand why I haven’t.”

“If the team’s winning it is hard to get in the side, that’s what happened, we’ve been unbeaten and it’s difficult to be chosen.” “We’ve four really good strikers who’ve to fight to get in the team.”

Footballers have to fight to get into any team, and of course Haris can also play in central midfield, so there’s another position he could play in.

It’s always revealing when players go out on loan, and one measurement of their progress is whether they can get to be a starter at the loan club.

While there may be competition at Rotherham, Haris turns 22 in August,  and it if he is to make it at Newcastle, you would have thought he could be a regular starter at Rotherham.

But that’s one of the questions Newcastle will need to answer – which younger players to keep this summer – and there has to be question marks over the heads of  players like James Tavernier, Shane Ferguson and Conor Newton – and also it seems Harris Vuckic.

When Haris first arrived at Newcastle in January of 2009 from NK Domzale as a 16 year-old, there were great hopes for him, but maybe because of a number of factors, such as picking up a number of injuries along the way – he hasn’t fulfilled his promise.

His contract runs though the summer of 2016, but time may be running out for him at Newcastle.

What do you think?



Tags: Haris Vuckic · Loan Moves · Newcastle News · Newcastle Youth



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82 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Sliema // Mar 10, 2014 at 9:38 AM

    From previous thread on MYM

    We spend £8.5million on a really promising player from Montpellier. He was awesome at Montpellier and a regular since the age of 19.

    He joins us to make a big step in his career. He is already turning 25 in May, he’s not a young player anymore, he’s at the level where the only chance he has of beginning a top-class defender is if he is given a regular starting spot at a Prem team.

    So we either play him, or we play a 32 year old CB who has repeatedly tried to leave the club and obviously doesn’t want to be here.

    On top of that, Pardew chooses to play STaylor?!
    I won’t even comment on that decision. We all know how we feel about that #pardewlogic

    It’s so short sited. Poor lad MYM. He should probably leave if this continues.

    He had a great few games up until that red card against Liverpool. You can’t lose faith in him for that alone.

  • 2 Ben3arfa // Mar 10, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Haris should have been loaned out to a European team like Abeid and given a chance to shine instead of warming benches for a league one side who will not utilise him in his preferred position.

  • 3 welshgeordie9 // Mar 10, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    I hope we have a good clear out in the summer, and get players in who wants to play for this club, saying that though that could be bloody hard.

  • 4 welshgeordie9 // Mar 10, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    I do feel sorry for MYM, it should be him and Williamson as our first choice pair

  • 5 The next Mike Williamson // Mar 10, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    It took Colo ages to adjust to PL. MYM will be a star if he’s given games.

  • 6 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    MYM should be playing but when he has had the chance he hasn’t exactly done enough to cement his place like Willo has done.

    He has done much better this year when he played alongside wilo but can see why it’s 50/50 between him and colo, could go either way.

  • 7 clinath@ed // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    Haris’ work rate, or lack of it, means he will never be a success in the uk.
    For his own future in football, I’m afraid he needs to abroad.

  • 8 catchy in norway // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Transfer Sage

    he has more clean sheets to his name than the other 3,

  • 9 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    catchy

    He can’t have more clean sheets than willo, he has only started at CB with him, so must be the same at least, sure wilo has had more.

    And like I say, he’s not done enough to oust Colo yet, it’s a 50/50 call of who is better, neither are stamping their name on the place.

  • 10 catchy in norway // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    TS

    just checking

  • 11 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    catchy

    You might be right, i’m just thinking of when MYM was in as CB not fullback.

    I imagine MYM has 2nd most though.

  • 12 Average_Contents // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

    Average_Contents
    2 mins ago
    Mag52

    Bums on seats accounted for 27m last season m8, obviously the europa league bumped it up but in the minutes of the fans meeting it was stated that Newcastle could only compete with its rivals on the pitch by upping commercial income and attendance (which I personally feel was a threat to the fans saying if you don’t turn up we don’t buy quality players!) Yet commercial revenue is advertising is it not, So Ashley is clearly depriving us of a revenue stream by his tacky, mass hoardings taking up SJP! Their excuse for this is they would not get anywhere near the 129m for the space! Don’t they think we know this, but a couple of million a season would benefit us immensely would it not! Instead of benefitting that fat cnuts “other” businesses! This isn’t a statement to you m8 just the first bit was lol, the rest was just general observation to the blog as a whole

  • 13 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    Average_Contents

    I read that too regarding them not being able to get 129mil for advertising…..if that’s the case though I expect the money they could get for advertising (lets say 5mil for simplicity, might be more of less in reality) should be getting deducted from the debt each year….so 124, 119, 114 etc etc year on year and that figure readjusted for what they could make.

  • 14 Average_Contents // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Good morning by the way :)

  • 15 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    People complaining about MYM have missed something. Pardew has come out to say that Colo and MYM are competing for the left hand side and Willo and Saylor for the right. He feels they are more effective there.

  • 16 Sliema // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    But why play a player who wants to leave?
    When you have one hungry to impress, who’s value would only go up with games, and who has performed well this season?!

  • 17 catchy in norway // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    I have it at (PL only)

    MYM 8

    villa
    palace
    man u
    Norwich
    spurs
    chel
    ful
    west h

    MW 6

    villa
    Norwich
    palace
    man u
    spurs
    chelsea

  • 18 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Average
    Spot on mate, can’t get my head around the logic of that, so he’s getting the free advertising but not reducing the debt?
    Think it was ciaran i was chatting to about this and the only logical theory i think he could think of was the advertising was offset to the interest of the loan as in we don’t pay interest so i won’t pay for advertising

  • 19 Average_Contents // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    TS

    I would think that that idea has already been discussed by NUFC ( my opinion) but didn’t they also say something along the lines of it benefits cashley having debt in his companies? Something to do with tax, I’m pretty sure it does and I believe his “other” companies have debt too although I’m no expert on the matter

  • 20 catchy in norway // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    ToonDarnSarf

    seems very strange that MYM covers for RB and is only fighting for the left side of the CB position

    but hey that’s pardew

  • 21 jazzyp // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    Vuckic is never gonna start in front of mr t or sissoko-anita- gouffran or even hba. Another player not to make the grade

  • 22 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    TDS

    No I saw that…but that wasn’t the case until the spurs game.

  • 23 beermonkey // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    one of the most frustrating things about pardew
    no matter who come in to the team no matter how well they do as soon as his first choice players is available there back in the team

  • 24 Average_Contents // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    Yes tads, that sounds exactly like something cashley would do (imho) no interest in reducing the debt or making NUFC more money by allowing us to sell the advertising space, therefore tightening his stranglehold over the club and showing a complete and utter lack of interest in the club ( apart from using it as a free advertising mule of course) I could be wrong and he only has Nufc’s best interests at heart but going off previous experience and all the cock-ups I highly doubt it (my opinion)

  • 25 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    catchy

    I stand corrected, presumed willo would have had more than him…didn’t even thimk MYM had played 8 games at CB this year.

    I still think though that MYM hasn’t done enough to say 100% should be in ahead of colo…i’d personally have him in before colo but don’t think it’s a huge mistake to play Colo.

  • 26 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    Catchy

    Not really strange, who else do we have to cover at RB with Raylor injured?

  • 27 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    TS

    Wasn’t the case? Or wasn’t the case that Pardew made it public as his
    policy? It’s highly likely that was his inclination before and he believed his point proven.

  • 28 catchy in norway // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Transfer Sage

    this what I don’t understand about our club right now, people thinking that players arnt doing enough,
    in my eyes the game is simple, who stops the most goals should play if fit, and who scores the most should play, who creates the most should play.

    at our club now , it seems to be how good you are in other postions that counts,

    I think this makes our players look far worse than they are, which in turn makes the squad look smaller and weak in many areas

    I don’t buy it,

  • 29 Phatoon // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Clean sheets Stats time:

    Playing at CB (not FB) in the Premier league only:

    Williamson (5): Chelsea, Spurs, Man Utd, Palace, Villa,
    Coloccini (5): West Ham, Fulham, Man Utd, Palace, Villa,
    Yanga-Mbiwa (4): West Ham, Fulham, Chelsea, Spurs,
    S Taylor (1): Norwich,

  • 30 catchy in norway // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    ToonDarnSarf

    do you not think it is mad that, he wants to fight for the left side of CB, but will use him at RB?
    im sure that if he can play L side of CB and RB he should also be able to play R side of CB

  • 31 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    TDS

    wasn’t the case….given by the fact taylor was playing the previous 2/3 games as the left sided CB

  • 32 catchy in norway // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    Phatoon

    that’s a bit unfair,

    its not MYM’s fault he is asked to play RB,

    he has 8 clean sheets when he has been in DF

    if you want to go down that road, sissoko has nothing from the right side of MF, all his goal have came from runs up the centre of the pitch, HBA is by far the better choice as a winger

  • 33 Phatoon // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    For reference, I like MYM, they way I see it is only the following combinations of CB can be played.

    Williamson/Coloccini
    Williamson/MYM
    MYM/Coloccini (when opponents lack aerial threats up front)
    S Taylor/Coloccini

    Williamson/S Taylor does not work, neither does S Taylor/MYM, common denominator is S Taylor…..

    I do like Taylor, he’s just not very good. We can’t afford that right now. I’d rather have had Perch (not just because of what happenned yesterday).

  • 34 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    catchy

    but there is more to each position than one stat….it’s about working as a team not the best individual stats.

    a striker isn’t just judged on goals, midfielders not just on assists and defenders not just on clean sheets.

  • 35 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    catchy

    I’ll look at phatoons stats for clean sheets as i’m on about at CB, not fullback…but i still accept it’s a close call between mbiwa and colo but i’d take mbiwa

  • 36 Phatoon // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Catchy, we were talking CB pairings though right?

  • 37 Phatoon // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Looking through other positions, MYM has only 1 other clean sheet (in the Premier League), that was against Man Utd. But he only played the final 8 mins….

  • 38 GeordieRob // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    What isn’t fair is counting the clean sheets where MYM sat on the bench all game…

  • 39 jayphoto // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    I’d take MYM over colo as i’m not sure Colo is even our short term future whereas MYM could grow into a worldclass centre half!
    Also prefer tiote as captain! It seems to raise him up 25%!

  • 40 Markaccus // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    Ok, not sure if its been mentioned, as i have not scanned back through the articles, so…..

    Is anyone else a bit P1ssed off about the Pardew media witch hunt on one hand, and on the other hand, the medias laughing and joking about Meyler making light of the situation with a headbutt goal celebration? F#cking hypocrites.

  • 41 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    markaccus

    I think the goal celebration did not harm….but think they have gone over board on AP. The problem is you know they will go over the top so don’t get yourself in that situation to start with.

    I think Pardew made little contact and not a real headbutt, but have no sympathy for the comments he is getting, he has blown up on the touchline a few times this season and always at others, never just his own frustration taken out on a water bottle

  • 42 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    jay

    Agree…especially given as this season we are very unlikely to go up or down a position so might as well let mbiwa and wilo develop their partnership, move colo on in the summer and bring in a replacement seeing as he seems to want to go and is getting very injury prone.

  • 43 Markaccus // Mar 10, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Colo is still a classy CB in my opinion, but i think thr starting partership for the rest of the season should be willo and mym, simply because colos nufc carrer is all but over. I think a run of games for mym will gain him invaluable xp and help him grow into a fantastic cb for us.

  • 44 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Catchy

    I really don’t think football is as simple as you’re making out. Otherwise, coaching qualifications would be as simple as looking at stats.

  • 45 Markaccus // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    T sage

    thats what i mean. The celebration in itself is harmless, but to have all the madness about stadium bans and sackings, then to laugh when the “victim” makes a joke of it is rediculous. Certainly i agree pardew deserves his reprimand, and i have no real problem with meylers goal celebration. The media just keep doing gutter worthy things. Their attitude stinks. I get so wound up by their continued lack of class and balanced views.

  • 46 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    TDS

    Exactly…look at chelsea last year, had mata running the show and they didn’t look that good despite his impressive stats….this year mourinho drops him and they are top of the league.

    It’s not about your best individuals, it’s about your best team.

  • 47 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    markaccus

    The problem is that people for some reason want to buy sensationalist rubbish these days, well written and researched pieces are few and far between.

  • 48 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    TS

    That’s why I don’t get people going overboard with their views on our players. Back in the summer, Debuchy was out of his depth, Santon wasn’t a defender, Colo was past it, Tiote wasn’t interested, Remy was just a mercenary, Sissoko wasn’t all that, Willo wasn’t good enough and Ben Arfa was the saviour…

    I’m frustrated with Saylor because of his obvious mistakes but he must have been played for some reason and obviously it didn’t work with him there.

    We also don’t know if Colo will leave. The club has allowed him to go home a few times so maybe the situation is manageable…

  • 49 Markaccus // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    T sage.

    Exactly. A lad i work with buys the Sun, and proceeds to rant and rave about imigrant stories, financial doom, political outrage and sporting stupidity. He’s like a Town crier with a bad hangover. I wouldnt need to read the paper if i wanted to!! The only involvement i take is with the crossword. I would rather look online if i hear something i might be interested in and try and find a balanced view.

  • 50 cyprus // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Ed,
    You compared footballers salaries and those of CEO’s, like IBM’s, siding a little with industry. My complaint would be that some of these fat cats get their teams relegated (!) and still get massive bonuses. It’s like players getting bonuses for taking us to the championship. IBM, for instance, has missed several ‘techie’ buses lately.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-revenue-miss-means-no-bonuses-2014-1

  • 51 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    markaccus

    News is very much like that, I only find BBC to be decent but they are even losing it a bit on the sports side.

    Too many news channels and papers means they all need to sensationalise to try and get a bigger share of the audience, the BBC is the best in my opinion. Sports stories anywhere i take with a pinch of salt though.

    TDS

    Simply put we get very good players on the cheap as they aren’t consistently able to play at their top level, that’s why they all go through bad spells….if we want perfection we need to be paying 30/40mil for players and even that’s not a guarantee.

    People expect too much of our players. I agree they could play nice football in a better style more often but i doubt anyone would have them any higher up the league.

  • 52 jayphoto // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    Think we should be using this time to blood some young players with potential. Campbell, Sammy, armstrong, maybe vuckic should be in the first team squad and getting 30 – 90 minutes per game to see if they are good enough. If the management already knows theyre not good enough they shouldn’t all be on long contracts

  • 53 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    cyprus

    Also got to consider that without players a football club wouldn’t exist as there would be nothing to watch…..so these players are the ones making the club 20/30mil in ticket sales, 60mil in TV deals and whatever else for sponsorship/merchandise….so really they are only getting their cut of the pot.

  • 54 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:22 AM

    TS

    It’s also our 4th season back in the PL and most of the teams above us are mega rich and/or have had many years of top finishes. Some fans expect too much too quickly.

  • 55 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    TDS

    I don’t think it being our 4th season back has a huge effect, we had 1 bad season where we went down, kept the main players in the team and came right back up….and have been here now for a while.

    Your other point is more valid, that our of the sides above us only everton spend on a similar level, the rest outspend us massively and already had better squads.

  • 56 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Jay

    Playing them now could damage their confidence if they aren’t ready. Plus, long contracts make a player worth more if they want to sell them.

    How would fans react if we played youngsters now and give up all hope of getting into the top 6? How would the other players react??

  • 57 ven#45 // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1744915/lazio-president-claudio-lotito-meet-frustrated-fans?cc=4716

    “Lazio fans boycott home game”

    Why we have no guts to do the same???

  • 58 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    TDS

    on jay’s point.

    I would give a few of them 20/30mins in some games, only 1 or 2 at a time, not more than that as it’s too much for them, they need the senior boys around.

    I think fans are more forgiving if you try kids.

  • 59 Belfast // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Most overrated youngster we have in my opinion.

    Yet to see what all the fuss is about, looks a lazy kernt anytime I’ve seen him.

  • 60 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    TS

    We didn’t have a great squad when we went down though. Check out our squad that season, there were several who were past it (Owen, Viduka, Smith) and several simply not good enough (Martins etc.)

    By the time we’d come up we’d lost the likes of Given, N’Zogbia, Duff and Bassong as well as Owen, Martins, Viduka etc. It takes a while to rebuild.

    Look at Southampton and they had been building a youth team for years that hold then in good stead for now. We didn’t.

  • 61 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    TS

    Like they were at the beginning of last season you mean?

  • 62 Transfer Sage // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    TDS

    Some of them were given the chance, the ones who didn’t make it are now out on loan…i think giving the likes of armstrong and sammy a little more game time is key to decide if they are kept or loaned out next season. (armstrong probably in youth side not loaned).

    It worked last time, we have sent them away now as they weren’t good enough, we found out they needed more game time.

    And yeh we had some average/past it players but they were still a squad which shouldn’t have gone down and the squad that came up was a decent one for a prem league standard.

  • 63 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    TS

    Shouldn’t have gone down, true. But we did and it set us back.

    Good enough for PL standards, true. But that’s a hell of a long way off top 6.

    Fans were not happy when they tried blooding youngsters at the beginning of last year, I can’t imagine they would like it now either. And so much fir ambition…what would that say to the senior players if we don’t play players on merit and give up on top 6?

    Too early for that.

  • 64 jayphoto // Mar 10, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    @tds – agree with you but at 19 for campbell, 21 for vuckic, 22 for sammy and 23 for dummett, if theyre not ready now they aren’t ever going to be! Not talking starting them every game, just being introduced from the bench in their natural positions here and there. Think Sammy and dummett have actual been 2 of our better players in games theyve appeared

  • 65 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    Jay

    I’d still rather play our best team now. Dummett is playing and that’s great but we should still focus on this season. We should play more promising youths the last few games if Europe is gone though. Imagine if we did this now and ended up 2 points from 6th when Utd and Everton go through bad runs…

  • 66 monasnyr99 // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    Never seen what all the fuss was about in Vuckic, in my opinion always looks very laboured and slow. Was never going to make the grade in a hight tempo league.

  • 67 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Jay

    And I’m sure that Campbell at 19 could be considered as having more time. Some players develop later, how old is Townsend? What division was Lallana in at 22? Age doesn’t tell the whole story, we’ve seen 17 year olds look amazing but they aren’t mentally prepared and they don’t make it, yet we’ve been surprised by players like Willo.

  • 68 70TWO // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    Phatoon @29

    Williamson (6): Chelsea, Spurs, Man Utd, Palace, Villa, Norwich

  • 69 jayphoto // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    @tds thats true! Not writing the lad off early! Just his game is based on explosive pace and those types of players tend to have their best days early.
    Actually think Dummett is our best leftback and that Sammy and maybe Bigirimana are better options from the bench than gosling and obertan on merit!

  • 70 Phatoon // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    70Two @67,

    Good spot, Iron Mike!

  • 71 Rotonda heights // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    markakkus

    Would be interesting to know how many points we may have accumulated if pardew had resisted the temptation to bring back his favourite saylor at such a crucial time.

    It was like persevering with the ba cisse partnership in a 442 when it clearly wasn’t working. Pardew gets it in the end but usually due to an injury or some such, by which time momentum and points have been lost.

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  • 73 70TWO // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    Phatoon

    I was puzzled why Taylor was being played in the middle when he first started for us at RB. However, I am now concerned about expecting Willow to continue this wonder streak into next season. If Collo is allowed to go and Saylor is off elsewhere for first team games, Willo and MYM should be first choice with Good and Dummett as back up.

  • 74 mag // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    If Newcastle United, are serious about moving to the next level of the Premier league, then they have to clear all these players such as Vuckic, who’s careers have flat lined at the club.

  • 75 catchy in norway // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    OC football management is not that easy, but I do think AP makes it harder for himself because of his strong believes, he is always right,
    he seems very reluctant to try other ways, he has to be forced into doing via an injury,
    football is a team sport, you have to rely on the other 10 players on the pitch,
    the best team is not always the team with its best 11 players in it, the best team is the one normally the one with its better players in there best position, where they can do there best

    AP only seems to want to play his best 11, and fit them into a team
    one of the things that truly bugs me is GOOFY and SISSOKO
    there both very poor on the right side , sissoko is good through th middle, goofy is his best in the box
    they both start as wingers, they take turns at being very poor on the right side, we end up being a man down because of it

  • 76 catchy in norway // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:48 PM

    rely = depend

  • 77 catchy in norway // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    TS

    I would have MYM in my team, I think he makes mistakes, and normally huge ones, but I see him doing a lot off good stuff too

    phatoon/TS

    regarding best pairing, surly MYM when playing out at RB, he has drifted into the CB to help out, and regardless he has been part of a defence that HAS kept the most clean sheets, yet he is dropped in favour of a Geordie, is this pardew keeping locals happy ?

  • 78 stuart no9 // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    TDS==It’s also our 4th season back in the PL and most of the teams above us are mega rich and/or have had many years of top finishes. Some fans expect too much too quickly. ——- I have heard that statement , however , i personally an not ‘ vibing ‘ off it . Fans being impatient- expexct too much , sounds like an ashley and pardew line that one . 1955 , the last time we won the cup- never won the prem . never got past the 3rd round of the the FA cup in 3 or 4 years. 1969 won our last major compitition , where exactly are we being impatient, and as for expecting too much ? ha . fans have come to learn – never expect ANYTHING untill Ashley sells up . Expect too much ?? really

  • 79 mag // Mar 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    The squad is full of average championship players along with the manager. This summer Ashley, has to show his intentions by investing a significant amount of money into the squad. Ashley is the 15th richest man in the UK and it’s about time he started to act like it.

  • 80 mindshaft // Mar 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM

    Everton and Spurs aren’t mega rich, Spurs had the 100 million Bale money and aren’t that far ahead of us squad wise as they hardly spent wisely
    Not sure why we should be waiting patiently for success, if we’re not bothered the players won’t be – we should be aiming for 6th at least and good runs in cup competitions every season – you can’t tell me that Hull, Sheff Utd and Wigan are ahead of us from a stability point of view and they’ve all managed to reach semis by taking the competition seriously

  • 81 Sliema // Mar 10, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    Mag

    8th in the league, beaten Chelsea, Spurs, Man U this season…

    If the squad is full of average championship players then Pards must be doing something right!

  • 82 martoon // Mar 10, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    Markaccus @ 49 – I wonder who that could be? :)




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