Newcastle Are A High Profile And Well Respected Club


In looking at the report from the FA commission that looked into Alan Pardew’s improper conduct charge – after he had headbutted Hull City player Davide Meyler imposed a sizable ban because the incident was seen by millions and millions of TV viewers around the world and after all Alan Pardew is a very experienced manager  at a high-profile and well respected club.

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David Meyler and Alan Pardew confront each other

This is more of what the commission said yesterday:

“Bluntly, Mr Pardew had little option but to admit the charge and to apologize accordingly. Mr Pardew is a high-profile and very experienced manager at a high-profile and well-respected club in a high-profile league and where matches are watched worldwide.”

“This is, on any view, a serious incident which has to be sanctioned accordingly, but at the same time proportionately.”

And it was revealed that the club’s professional and rapid response to Pardew’s stupidity, on the night of the incident, also reduced the severity of his punishment.

Newcastle United issued a stern statement that gave Pardew a formal warning, warned him as to his future conduct, and fined him £100,000, and seemed to be well received by the three-man commission.

The manager’s own response, where he immediately admitted he had been stupid, had apologized to everybody concerned, and had sent a letter of apology to Hull City Manager Steve Bruce, also helped the Newcastle manager.

As long as it doesn’t happen again we think Pardew will be OK from now on …….. maybe.

For the record Alan has been a manager since late 1999, and he’s managed at Reading, West Ham, Charlton, Southampton and Newcastle.

The Londoner has managed for a total of 676 games – 153 at Newcastle – with an overall win percentage of 42.75 – 38.56 at Newcastle.

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119 comments so far

  • Spoof

    Mar 20, 2014 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #1

    This topic has been done to death, lets continue with the previous topic which was about Luuk de Jong ?

    LDJ has not had the best of starts to his Newcastle career, however I would not rule him out just yet, don’t forget how poor Debuchy was when he came, some players do need a pre-season behind them in preperation for the Premier league, I feel that LDJ will be one of those, as difficult as it has been for him I have still seen enough of him to believe that he could be good, he is a strong lad who does hold the ball up and bring others into play, lets not forget that we haven’t had that type of striker since Ba left so the rest of the side will have to adapt to him as well, which is why I feel that a pre-season could be really good for him, at £6/7m then that has got to be a good deal, so for me a definite yes.

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  • Nufcjoss

    Mar 20, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #2

    it’s bin to long since we were involved with the top 4. Mike have turned us in to a okey team at best!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Mar 20, 2014 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #3

    Spoof

    nothing against luuk, seems a good lad and a very useful foil for anther goal scoring striker, does all the hard work for his strike partner….but for 8.5 mil I think we need a bit more out of him to sign him on a permanent.

    But if it’s a choice of him or nobody i’d definitely take him, rather we topped up the money to 12-15mil a bought a very high level forward but i can’t see that within our budget, knowing we need at least 3 other players too.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Mar 20, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #4

    joss

    I’m no Ashley fan, more for his communication and treatment of the club/fans/history/tradition but even I will admit we were an average team before he came in……during the prem league years i believe we were only top 4 on 4 occasions (correct me if i’m wrong) and hadn’t been top 4 in the 3 years before he came.

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  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Mar 20, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #5

    SPOOF

    The circumstances of his arrival were tough too.

    Cabaye sold, Derby against mackems

    Tough games against Chelsea, Spurs, not always a Full strength side.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 20, 2014 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #6

    TS,
    If you look at the all time PL standings we’re eighth, if you throw in fifty points for that disaster of the CC and throw in another ten points the season we should never have been relegated then that has us in sixth, a couple of points behind fifth, so I think the very least we should be aiming for is the top six, instead of the bollox of we can’t compete with high spenders like Soton, and Swansea.

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  • Yohan Kebab

    Mar 20, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #7

    There are better options for the price quoted though, could go for Pelle prom feyenoord if we want a big man

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  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Mar 20, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #8

    Pelle

    he is 29 and have you seen his misdemeanors against AZ and Ajax?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 20, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #9

    It has been proved Mashers will gamble 9M on a player who he thinks will double in value but no more, if reports are to be believed he was fuming after spending that on Cisse and missing out on the CL, I’m with Spoof I think we have to take a chance on LDJ, we’ll be lucky to find an instant hit who can score goals for less money. Armstrong could be the next Owen and save the day.

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  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Mar 20, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #10

    TS

    Just have a problem with not trying.

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  • Spoof

    Mar 20, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #11

    TS

    time will tell, but I do honesty feel that LDJ could be a lot better than what we have seen of him so far, he does hold the ball up and bring others into play, we have not played a system which requires a striker like that since Ba left, so not only does LDJ need to settle in, the rest of the team need to realise that with him we now have more than just the counter-attacking system, we need the Gouffrans, Sissoko’s and Anita’s to be aware of what Luuk can do and make runs to link up with him quicker than what they currently are.

    Realistically the £12/15m striker will never happen, but as has happened so often we will have to make do with a cheaper option and get the best out of him, forget about this being “Pardewed” nonsence, Ba, Gouffran, Williamson, Cabaye, Tiote etc have all blossomed under him, who’s to say Luuk can’t as well.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #12

    Jail for Ashley

    Wow you spout some garbage assumptions sometimes.

    So IF we hadn’t been relegated and IF we had done better one season then we’re 6th in the all-time standings so we SHOULD be in the top 6?

    Well, IF Chelski had got their investment 10 years earlier and IF Man City had got their investment 15 years earlier, where would we be then? What about IF SJH had been a mackem and invested in Dunderland instead?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #13

    jail

    I’d like to see it but in the past few years teams like chelsea and man city have got so much money it’s impossible to compete with them.

    Add to that the money of man utd, liverpool and arsenal from years of champions league and huge commercial deals, plus their natural pull to attract players on just reputation.

    It leaves us going for 6th with spurs and everton realistically, but even spurs are spending more money now than we do.

    I accept more could be done but i’m not too worried about the football side with Ashley, it’s more his treatment of us knowing we are loyal so continue to go despite the crap he does.

    He doesn’t do it for SD as he knows people have no loyalty to a shop, but as fans we have loyalty to a lcub.

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  • Spoof

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #14

    Jail @9

    why would want Armstrong to be over-paid and injury prone lol.

    Seriously though, it would be great if that happened as the Owen of Liverpool was a fantastic player, actually Owen (when he played) had a good record for us as well, just a shame it wasn’t often enough.

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  • jimmysmith

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #15

    I think we have been a fully fledged, nailed on, top 6 club based on support, facilities and players if not points during the EPL era. Just had a catalog of mediocre to shit management and ownership at the helm apart from the Robson and the first Keegan spell which are becoming increasingly and obviously exceptions to the norm.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #16

    £12/15M striker will never happen? Despite the fact that we spent around £10M on Cisse and we have a bumper warchest available this summer? Why are some of you fans so damn negative?

    It’s not like Ashley won’t spend money, it’s just that he insists on value. Problem is, we rarely get that from English clubs.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #17

    spoof

    Like you say, he might settle and be a force next year, not everyone hits the ground running, especially given him lack of competitive game time.

    I’d not be unhappy if we got him, just think if we do, we need a genuine goal scorer like remy in as well.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #18

    As a Premier League football club we should be looking at strikers who can guarantee us 15-20 goals a season. We have to be buying these players.

    Not loaning them, not messing on. We should have these players signed up here on good contracts. This is a must for the top 6-8. It has to be done to push on.

    The truth is Mike won’t do it and he is constantly looking at cheap work arounds in loan deals, and now dare I say it, the youngsters. It’s pathetic.

    I hope all this hyping up the youngsters recently and giving them a chance is also coupled with buying two top class strikers in the Summer. This is the Premier League and we NEED these forwards in.

    This man needs to get his act together, the squad is a mess and it’s down to him.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #19

    Let’s look at the top 9 that we’re competing with this season:
    Man City – mega rich
    Chelski – mega rich
    Arsenal – rich, stable and consistent top 4
    Liverpool – rich, relatively stable and consistent top 8
    Everton – stable and consistent top 8
    Spurs – stable and consistent top 10
    Man Utd – mega rich and consistent top 4

    Southampton are riding high on a fantastic youth programme but we’ve seen this before with other clubs and that’s no guarantee. Players like Lallana, Shaw, Chambers etc. don’t come along every season.

    There is no way we deserve to compete with the first 7 teams based on the last 10 seasons. They have all had consistent top finishes, several are massively more wealthy than us and they’ve been building up gradually.

    It doesn’t matter how big a club you think we are, the reality is that we’re facing a massive struggle to get into the top 6. Spurs have a lot more money coming in and even they are struggling.

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  • Spoof

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #20

    TDS

    In fairness I can see the sense in what Jail was saying, basically if you take away the stupid errors of the past then that gives an indication of just where we are and could be, I don’t see any harm in stating that based on Premier league history we are eight and would be higher if it wasn’t due to silly mistakes which have cost us dearly and without these expensive errors then the position we then find ourselves in should be the minimum target for us.
    If you don’t adopt that attitude then why bother trying, it would be like saying that Man U got relegated in the 1970’s so they should be grateful for anything which is better than that, you always have to give harder targets to try to improve, nothing silly at all about that.

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  • ayecanny

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #21

    Of this subject, anyone getting bored of buying players from aboard.. This summer I’d enjoy it we got the likes of R. Morrison, T.ince, maybe Zaha on loan, maybe ings? and a couple of young english defenders.. Spend twenty million and see how they cope.. They will jump up in prize mainly due to them playing for newcastle and being english.. I would much rather go and see them then some of the lads playing for us today.. Might just be the build up to the world cup but to be a team like southampton with all these english youngens we’d be well talked about and liked.. Rather then that french team up north..

    What yous think…..

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #22

    TDSarf,
    I don’t think it’s an assumption to say we we’re grossly mismanaged in 2009 and should not have been relegated and especially not a garbage assumption, KK in charge all season without the BS and deceit would have had the extra ten points I cite.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #23

    jimmysmith

    Nailed on top 6 club? Assuming you already have City, Chelski, Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool in there. You’re saying our club has some sort of right to finish above Spurs and Everton?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #24

    Jail for Ashley

    KK should never have been appointed. He’s been a failure at every other team he’s managed except for Fulham where they spent mega-bucks too. He was perfect for us the first time and his tactics surprised opposing teams almost enough to win the league. But if he was that good a manager, then he’d have been in a job before and after.

    No doubt we were mis-managed that season and I put the blame to several places. Obviously Ashley deserves the bulk of the blame as he was the man making decisions:
    1 – Fans for whinging about Allardyce
    2 – Ashley for listening and sacking him
    3 – Ashley for pandering to the fans and hiring KK
    4 – Ashley for not writing a proper contract with KK
    5 – Ashley for trying to fix 4 and hiring DW
    6 – KK for throwing his toys out of the pram (again)
    7 – Ashley for not expecting 6
    8 – Fans for going mental when KK left
    9 – Ashley for hiring JFK
    10 – Ashley for pandering to the fans (again) and hiring AS

    Blame on the fans is more frustration from my part. Fans whinge and so on and that’s part of football. I’m just frustrated that Ashley appears to have listened to them. I can understand him wanting to bring in his own man, but KK was not that man obviously.

    And you just can’t say if we didn’t have a bad season then we’d be higher up. Every club goes through the crap and if they didn’t then they’d have more success too. How about if Leeds hadn’t over-extended themselves?

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  • Spoof

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #25

    TDS

    what all clubs apart from us do is to reinvest, even Everton do compared to us, over the last 5 years all clubs have sold players, but they have put it back into the squad with a little bit more added to it (for most clubs), we are the only club who do not reinvest on a large scale, whilst we continue to operate like this we will never challenge those at the top, and due to not competing with those above us you feel that we have no right to expect us to, with that belief we never will m8, other clubs will not purposely weaken themselves to allow us to compete with them, we have to force the issue.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #26

    Spoof

    If Leeds hadn’t over-extended themselves, they could still be in the CL
    Liverpool should have won the Premier League at some point
    Aston Villa should be up in the top 8
    Sunderland should have been in the PL more

    Every club can point to mistakes and say they could have done better but it’s pointless. Every club has good and bad times. You can’t erase some of our bad times and use it to justify a point unless you erase the bad times of every other club!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #27

    TDsarf,
    I don’t know how you can say KK threw his toys out of the pram second time round, the guy has a history of it, but the second time round it was proved it was justified.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #28

    Spoof

    Check out the transfer stats of Everton and Arsenal too.

    And there’re more to reinvesting than transfer fees. Many fans overlook this. We’ve signed a lot of player and we’ve paid good wages, loan fees and agent fees to get some good deals. Everton have also been a consistent top 8 club for around the last 10 year making them more attractive to players and allowing them to keep top youngsters than break through into the first team.

    I get our fans are impatient but it takes time and not making snap decisions.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #29

    Jail for Ashley

    It was justified legally, because he had every right to assume he would have the final say on transfers, but some managers would just have put up with it and got on with coaching and selecting the team.

    I’m blaming him as much as I blame a cat for scratching me if I stand on its tail…it’s the nature of the beast.

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  • Spoof

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #30

    TDS

    the whole point which was being made is that we should expect to be stronger challengers than what we currently, yes as you rightly say other clubs have and will continue to make mistakes which knock them back, but like myself and Jail what they will do is put the extreme mistakes to one side and look at what is left and use that as a benchmark target for what they hope to achieve, all clubs will do this, the only certainty is that some will fail as you can be assure that at least 10 clubs will look at top 8 as being achievable, it’s called competition, if you look at the poor seasons and say that are are better now than what we were then, then you will never improve, attitude m8, attitude, you have got to strive to get better, if you don’t you will get worse, do you honesty see us trying to improve ?

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  • catchy in norway

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #31

    Jail

    from yesterday

    “It was brief – two conversations. He was with his analyst but was fine. He was quite calm. And yes, his hotel room is all right!” “We all know what has gone on and now we have to move on.”

    http://www.nufcblog.com/2014/03/16/listless-performance-from-newcastle-not-good-enough/

    there is more to it, there is a video of his press conference after the match,

    I don’t like how he just hung MYM out to dry, this is a team game, win and loose as one,

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  • dufuss

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #32

    i see see

    soneone spouting tosh

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #33

    TDsarf,
    Ha ha, like Pardew and swallowed his dignity for a job in the big time, I can imagine KK Geordie legend standing week after week telling the fans we couldn’t get PEA over the line as the fictitious 17M bid was rejected.

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  • bob

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #34

    As long as we keep this manager we’ll always be second rate as that’s all he understands.

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  • Rainrix

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #35

    On LDJ as i said the other day we have in many ways zero creativity. Its going to be hard for him to score goals between now and the end of the season. Even remys 2 recent goals were down to poor opposition defending and a deflection that came to him. Plus as others have mentioned its a new league for him plus he’s probably on low confidence given he hasn’t scored in a long while.

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  • eric

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #36

    De Jong is not as good as Leon best he scored goals even Lovenkrands put a few away.

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  • catchy in norway

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #37

    ToonDarnSarf

    I disagree with you

    the list of team you have in the top 9, that’s a fact, the table don’t lie, but just because they have mega money don’t meant they should be in the top, the manager and his team have a huge affect on what position they will finish

    the season we finished 5th, was more down to KD and AVB at Liverpool and Chelsea, and luck, both of those team spent fortunes and we didn’t

    if spurs had AVB right now, they would be sitting right next to us, yet they spent 100 million, with the right manager that should be enough to have great cups runs and a good position in the league,

    man u won the league last season, more or less the same side, anyone can beat them this season,

    you say Southampton are riding on a good youth system, I would like to think that there manager should take huge credit for where they are, firstly, they play good football, they play with purpose , they get the best out there best players, and they all seem to want to play for each other,
    we are the polar opposite to them, we hinder our players by playing them out of position, more to suit the managers flawed tactics, keep possession, contain, and shoot from distance

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #38

    Rainrix,
    It’s a shame we never got him at the start of the season, but I suppose there was no telling how useless Cisse was going to be, I think we could have had LDJ in the summer which makes a mockery of our pursuit of Gomis.

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  • Spoof

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #39

    TSD

    I have checked out Everton and Arsenal, Everton have sold £12m more than what they have spent, and Arsenal have sold £4m more than what they have spent, we however have sold £45m more than what we have spent, so if Alan Pardew had been allowed to spend £32m more than what he has then we would have a significantly better squad and team, yet we would still be bottom of the reinvestment table, that really does put into perspective just how pathetic Ashley is, all other clubs apart from those 3 have reinvested incoming transfer funds and then added a bit more to the managers fund, and five years ago we were getting relegated, Arsenal were 4th and Everton were 5th, so they started with much stronger squads, as I say, to compete you have to give the manager a chance, Ashley is not giving Pardew a cat in hells chance.

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  • mag

    Mar 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #40

    L de Jong, isn’t showing anything to make NUFC, sign him he isn’t as good as the hype makes out. Leon Best was much more prolific and he wasn’t Premier league quality either.

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