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Palace Came To Defend – Newcastle Tried To Win

9:50 pm, Saturday, March 22nd, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 54 Comments

Today was a perfect example of why Tony Pulis takes a lot of criticism for the way he has a football team play the beautiful game, and he paid the price last summer when Stoke sacked him, because they wanted a more adventurous style of play – a more entertaining style of play.

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Fab Coloccini in action this afternoon

And after Palace had great success at Sunderland last week in that 0-0 draw – which was pitiful to watch – one of the worst games  to watch this season – Tony tried to replicate that performance at Newcastle today, and almost had another big win today at St. James’ Park, and all but came away with another boring 0-0 draw.

But it was Senegalese striker Papiss Cisse who had previously had three good attempts well saved by Palace goalkeeper Speroni, who headed a great winner over three minutes into added time, and it came  from an excellent cross from substitute Hatem Ben Arfa.

And Pulis was complaining that when Cisse scored the game should have been over, but perhaps rather than parking two buses in their own penalty area all game, if Palace had tried to win the game they may have done better – after all fortune favors the brave.

Palace did get some chances in this game – maybe two or three – but it was more a case of Newcastle giving them the chances rather than because of Palace’s out-and-out attacking endeavors, although at the end of the game Pulis said Palace should have won the game and that they had missed their chances once again.

Yeah – right, what game was he watching?

Although to be fair to the Palace manager, we know Premier League managers are under tremendous pressure, especially those managing clubs fighting relegation like Tony is.

Newcastle captain Fab Coloccini talked on the Newcastle web-site after the game:

“We tried to win the game for the full 90 minutes. Palace just came here to defend and didn’t create too much,”

“To be honest, when we got near the end I thought it was going to finish as a draw, so it was a very good result!”

“We are happy because I thought we deserved the three points.” “We are happy because we won at home, Papiss scored and that is a good thing for him as well.”

“We are all so happy for him because strikers live to score and he has been a bit unlucky in the last few games.”

“He had a few chances today, which their goalkeeper saved, and then missed one from Mapou’s cross.” “But he never gave up and hopefully this gives him a lot of confidence.”

Hopefully that goal will give Papiss Cisse a lot more confidence, and today he scored one and also had three decent attempts on goal, and every one pf them forced a save from the excellent Speroni in the Crystal Palace goal.

Speroni was also the place star man when we played them at Selhurst Park earlier this season.

Newcastle deserved the win – but we made really hard work of it, and it was hardly one of our better performances.

But it was still another win, another clean sheet and a double over Crystal Place, who we beat 3-0 at Selhurst Park.

We are now 8th top after 30 games played with 46 points, and Newcastle are one point above the Saints and 12 points above Aston Villa in 10th place.

And a win is a win, and that’s the third win in the last four games.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Fabricio Coloccini · Newcastle News · Papiss Cisse · Premier League

54 responses so far ↓

  • 1 toonking // Mar 22, 2014 at 9:52 PM

    re post

    the consistancy of a player has got nothing to do with who is the clubs manager.
    on his good days he has been excellent but on his awful days he has been just that awful.

    A. because all he does is try showing himself off and all them decision can’t be changed by the manager because he is not the man who has HBAs mind only HBA can choose what to do.

  • 2 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    kilcline laudrop why exactly??

  • 3 kilcline // Mar 22, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    Need a big clear out and then show some ambition in the summer:

    Pardew out, Laudrup in.

    Sign from the following:
    M. Richards – replace colo
    Morrison – replace cabaye, lad is class
    Hughes – if Derby don’t go up
    Ince – think he will come good in the prem
    Bolasie – see above
    A.Johnson – if scum go down
    Hernandez – gonna leave Utd, why not!
    Ba – gonna leave chelsea, why not!

  • 4 kilcline // Mar 22, 2014 at 9:56 PM

    He will play the style of football we all crave.

  • 5 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 9:57 PM

    see i can see the future 🙂

  • 6 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    wat style?
    he turned a great playing team into a very not great playing team lol

  • 7 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:00 PM

    Tads/Graeme…if you are about then thanks for the heads up about the game and all that – I lost the internet connection just after I posted 🙁

    …seems there were a few high points even though it was a boring game. Good for Cisse and good for Benny – guess they both need it!

  • 8 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:01 PM

    @ King

    I would say it is about 50/50 .

    HBA would thrive in a team that play slick counter-attacking football where you actually pass and move.

    Under Pardew he gets the ball, sees no movement and tries to make something out of nothing despite being doubled up on, often losing the ball . However sometimes hitting a screamer or bagging an assist .

    The way football is going all 10 players will be defenders afraid to try and beat a man or create the eye of a needle pass in fear that their stats will be effected .

    Liverpool are title contenders (like us under Keegan) by outscoring the opposition and not getting caught up in “ooh…. we are to scared to concede” .

    Give me 6-3’s over 0-0 draws any day of the week .

  • 9 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:02 PM

    infact a team that had been honed for many many years in the right way and turned them in to relegation fodder and at the same time as spending more than any manager had ever had at that club?
    plus at the same time haveing ago at pards for saying the europa does have an effect on league form
    mmmmmmmmm bet he regrets that now lol

  • 10 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:04 PM

    bpc have you got an answer to that post from pardews quote?
    isn’t that very fair? or not?

  • 11 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    bpc but we havent got a 30 odd mill strike force or a squad with any wingers or a squad with 2 players for each position
    do you really think another manager will get this squad much higher
    or get the owner to even spend to get near liverpoo ?

  • 12 jimmysmith // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:10 PM

    Cisse looked fatalistically across at the linesman after the ball hit the back of the net in a manner that suggested he had accepted it was his destiny to be flagged and never to score again. I’m not sure how good or bad he is, but he certainly is better than his goals stats over the last almost two years suggest. I hope he stays in the side and Benny also comes into the starting 11 even when we are fully fit. Not because I think they deserve it, but because this patchy form has gone on long enough and needs to be resolved. Seems to me they both need the opportunity to show some consistency and we need to make a final decision on whether they stay or go. Neither are subs.

  • 13 JP...from The Rock // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:10 PM

    I really hope this instills some confidence back into Cisse’s play as he badly needs it. Although he had lots of chances and most on target, he was shooting straight at their keeper and making Speroni look better than what he is. If Papiss had placed the ball on either side of their keeper he could have had a hat-trick today.

    In the end I am really happy for him and glad we got the winner and with a HBA assist. I really want HBA to stay beyond the summer as he always is a threat to the opposition with his silky moves and unpredictability.


  • 14 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:10 PM

    jesper it was a good game for the neutral!

  • 15 toonking // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    give me suaez and sturridge over remy, cisse and de jong any day of the week

    give me rooney and RVP over them any day of the week

    give me agureo and dzeko over them any day of the week

    give me michu and bony over cisse and dejong any day of the week

    strikers are the goal scorers who is ours remy cisse de jong shola and gouffran so of course we will score less goals.

    HBA marvo sissoko obatan and sammy are the creative players not hazard silva sterling or nasri

    that is why we don’t score lots

    gus poyet who you love doesn’t score lots
    laudrup can’t do much without michu
    hughton is not scoring as many at norwich.

  • 16 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:14 PM

    @ Manx

    I would bet my life that Martinez could do much better with our team. Especially when we still had Cabaye.

  • 17 jimmysmith // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:19 PM

    Both Gouffran and Tiote are very much a part of the first team for next year, but I think they would be the ones to make way for Cisse, Benny and the return of Remy if we were going to take a good look at HBA, Cisse and DeJong and still field a competitive side in the remaining games.

    ……….Sissoko……… Tiote
    Benny……… DeJong……..Remy
    …………Cisse …..

  • 18 jimmysmith // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:21 PM

    I meant Anita not Tiote to make way in midfield.

  • 19 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:21 PM

    how can you say that tho bpc?

    everton have been a top 8 team for years
    he got a top scorer in on loan
    plus got to spend wat he made from sales

    lets see how he does next season then?

  • 20 Geordie crappa // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:23 PM

    Ed, I honestly have no idea what has been done to the mobile version of the blog, but I cannot load it on my android phone. All Im getting is a blank screen and a series of very annoying pop ups that navigate me away from the blog completely. Love reading this site, I just thought you should know. Cheers.

  • 21 toonking // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:24 PM


    pardew had a forward destroyed when carroll was sold.

    he resolved that with BA and cisse who were both in each others way thanks to the scout getting the wrong one. then he gets forced to keep Ba happen but still got the attack destroyed when we lost BA

    pardew had a team built around cabaye and tiote what happens we sell cabaye bring in no one.

    you can’t build a decent attacking team if the owner keeps sell crucial players.

  • 22 Graeme // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:24 PM

    No worries Jesper, pleased to help.

  • 23 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:26 PM

    jimmy aye with cabeye we had a player who did all the dirty work but had the talent to start attacks plus score
    the complete midfielder
    where as tiote n anita are very similar anita certainly needs to up his creative game

  • 24 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:30 PM

    crappa (no i’m not talkin to you belfast) email ed mate he usually gets back to ya

  • 25 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:30 PM

    Pardew has had a shi* hot striker pretty much his whole time at NUFC despite when Ba left last season & we were left with Cisse.

  • 26 Benji84 // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:41 PM

    Spewing I missed the winner. I cracked the shits at the 88 min i think benny smashed one way over and thought fark this. It was 3:30 in the morning my time so i went to bed. Check again to see if it was 0-0 abut no we won. This is why i love and hate this team 17 years of joy and pain

  • 27 jimmysmith // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    I bet if Collocini was at City, he’d be in the first team. They play Demichaelis for his ability to play the ball out from the back and Collo can do that equally well and more besides.

  • 28 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 10:55 PM

    bpc but a manager is supposed to build a team
    how can you do that when players are sold constantly and the best ones that you are building a team around?

  • 29 toonking // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    BPC if ba can get back into scoring goals after 6 months being played wide why can’t cisse do that

    missing sitters like he has the last two games are not done by poor management.

    we had a good looking team when we finished 5th then injuries happened and we had no cover

    then in january we lost ba our main goal scorer that season

    this year our team was built with cabaye remy and debuchy the key but in summer we will have just debuchy left

  • 30 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    @ manx

    That happens to the majority of the teams outside the top 4 .

    Pardew still has some very talented players but his tactics are ancient.

  • 31 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

    bpc he does ya right but ya can’t say he has a squad of talented players

    and when we had a fully fit squad we play well but when we lose a few key players the performances drop drematically

    is that a coincedence or is it that we don’t have a great squad and certainly not great replacements??

  • 32 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

    is it me or didn’t anyone else notice Palace players dropping even more deeper when HBA came, so people say he’s inconsistent but today Palace where panicking when HBA got the ball.

    even against other teams when HBA is playing there is always 2 or more players closing him down fast and hard to stop him running with the ball.

    I think we need to keep this lad and give him a new contract

  • 33 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:25 PM

    Big Pappa Cissé@30

    spot on mate, we do have a very good squad and to me Pardew has always been the weak link to this team.

    if you’s compare our squad to the others we dominate in nearly every section but don’t compare with teams that have millions to spend like Chelsea, Man U/City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs.

    but saying this though if you compared us with Spurs and Liverpool we have a better squad in total only Spurs and Liverpool have a better strike force than us

  • 34 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM


    Debuchy will be gone mate no doubt about it and probably Krull too

  • 35 jimmysmith // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

    When Benny plays the opposition tend to second defend tightly and show him the line. So he has to sort of wriggle around or play the easy ball. You’d think if he can draw those two players and then release we’d have a numerical advantage. He still seems to want to shake defenders and create space for himself with the ball at his feet. I’m assuming the coaching staff are trying to get him to draw the defense, lay the ball off and then run into more open attacking space to get the ball back. It still doesn’t seem to be happening.

  • 36 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:29 PM

    well done chrissy btw and wat a goal by tetty!!!!!!!
    i do wish we got poyet tho or that west brom fella 🙂

  • 37 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM


    I would rather have Bielsa or Baup 😉

  • 38 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:32 PM


    this can’t work mate when we are playing deep all the time well most of the time

  • 39 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:34 PM

    black and white thats bollicks lol!!

    how many wingers would get in our squad from liverpool,man u, spurs or everton ?
    so add that to the strikers you already say is better where’s our attacking force over them?

  • 40 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:36 PM

    black n white that was a nod to rotunda who said we should gamble on them managers lol

  • 41 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:38 PM


    that’s the main problem though mate we have no wingers so we can’t really compare 😉

    but I would chose Sissoko over any one of those from the other teams.

    if we put on vs mode Sissoko against there wingers like Nani, Rahem ect,ect they wouldn’t stand a chance

  • 42 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM

    Sissoko is a beast and is probably the best bargain buy in history, many top teams missed there chance on getting this lad in

  • 43 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM

    sorry black (i’m not racist) 🙂 but i didn’t understand ya last paragraph?

  • 44 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:43 PM

    sorry mate my net went off for a bit so I couldn’t finish it ( dam virgin media 🙂 )

  • 45 manxpie // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM

    fusk richard branson the bastard billionaire!!!!!!!

    wat does this mean tho?

    if we put on vs mode Sissoko

  • 46 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 22, 2014 at 11:49 PM

    like Sissoko against Nani, strengths and ability wise

  • 47 Blofal // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:03 AM

    So happy with Cisse’s performance. His runs were perfect all night. Havent seen his positioning that good since his prolific days of old.

    Sure he had some chances but they were difficult chances and all were saved by a goalkeeper having a very good game. And the Mapou pass just appeared that he was slightly wrong footed by the pass.. but hey that happens.

    As much as everyone loves Remy it does us no good to drop Cisse and bring Remy in because Remy is gone at the end of the season. If Cisse can keep his general play at the level it was today then we need to keep him there and bring Remy in on the wing.

    Having Cisse return to form is more important than having Remy put himself in the shop window. We are safe and probably wont make Europa league given the FA cup draw. I don’t see us moving much on the ladder. We need to use this to get players back on form and to blood our younger lads. Starting with Haidara.

  • 48 bobby mango // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:41 AM

    Think this report is harsh on palace. First they were creating clear cut chances, better chance than ours. Stay of the second half they were all over us… They were putting me numbers in the box than we did.

    Park the bus? Hmm… Despite >70% possession I don’t think so

  • 49 valle // Mar 23, 2014 at 6:12 AM

    With Remy desperate to go to Arsenal and his team of advisers apperently holding meetings with them already, I think we should start planning for life without him. We dont have allot to play for in the last 8 games, so use Cisse and LDJ and let the young guys get a sniff. He is not going to give us the chance to sign him anyway if he has already met with Arsenal, so why keep using him instead of our own players when we dont have anything to play for?

  • 50 Himanshu Dhingra // Mar 23, 2014 at 7:15 AM

    Ravel Morrison and Jordan Mutch in the summer.

  • 51 cyprus // Mar 23, 2014 at 7:22 AM

    What you say makes sense to me. OUR players are people like Cisse, HBA, Sammy and Haidara. They, more so than Remy and LDJ need games to prove their worth.
    If Remy ain’t staying for sure (surely it occurred to them to ask him), he is only in the shopping window. Although I love it when the players and stuff say (and maybe even believe) they have all to play for, in truth, they don’t, position-wise. What they do want to do, however, is establish and prove THEMSELVES, and that’s a lot; aren’t you most motivated by individualistic (aka selfish) reasons? Give the fringe players (and beyond!) a real go I say.

  • 52 catchy in norway // Mar 23, 2014 at 7:32 AM


    the problem i have with you is, your reading pardews scripts, you seem incapable of making a judgment of your own, trying to back pardews quote up with pardews quote is really just a huge joke,

    you are judging HBA on the fact he dont pardew says he dosnt do enough for the team, but hat is looking at it from a defensive point of view, looking at it only from a negative prospective,
    yet i chose to look at it from the point of view what we do get from him,
    HBA has more assists and goals than every other player in our team bar goofy, the last time i check, that was doing something for the team, and that was with cabaye in those stats also

    and your point about HBA being in the team v those 3 you mentioned, he was the best player on the pitch v norwich, hitting the woodwork 3 times

    i could also point out that goofy is just as lazy on the wing, pardew has no problem with that

    i could also point out that sissoko might be great at defending his RB but as a right winger he is shocking, pardew says nothing about that,

    i could say that even with cabaye in the team we lost more than we won,

    the fact is all 4 should be in the team, but not in the positions pardew plays them in that is the problem, the fact that pardew only focuses on the negative side of the game

    the fact that LDJ is now coming out and saying he is helping the team defensivly is testament to the defensive negative attitude that is at the club,

    under KK HBA would have been a superstar, like ginola, ginola was encouraged to strut his stuff, as the team benifited,

    as a human, i would hate to think you where my boss or worse still my farther,

  • 53 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Mar 23, 2014 at 7:34 AM

    Good result yesterday saying that Palace had come to park the bus.
    just got to be patient to break them down.

    I picked out Cisse for my MOM not because of his goal but his overall play – his runs/movement off the ball were excellent if our players could pick his runs out a bit quicker. He was also pulled up for offside only once.

    Got to give Mbiwa a mention who also had a good game along with Anita who had a excellent game in midfield – ‘Iron’ Mike, Colo Tiote, Goufran who took a battering, and HBA’s Cameo appearance.

    I might be tempted to give Marvo a longer run out because he looks busy and carries a threat going forward.

    Sadly Luck Du Jong looked like a little boy lost.

    And a mention for the Crystal Palace fans who out sung the TOON for most of the game.
    As I put yesterday the Gallowgate end was like being on the moon – no atmosphere/flat

  • 54 sweendog // Mar 23, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    If Remy is away I hope we go for batshuiyi and start to play some of our youngsters .. If playesrs are leaving don’t play then anymore .. It will either force them into a decision about staying or help blood other players .. Good win yesterday and I hope arfa pushing on .. He’s an excellent player but just needs a little guidance

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