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What We Learned About Five Newcastle Players Yesterday

1:14 pm, Sunday, March 23rd, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 57 Comments

Newcastle got a third win in four games yesterday, with a (very) late goal from Senegal striker Papiss Cisse, and it was another clean sheet and Newcastle are now on 46 points after 30 games and 8th top of the league.
Here’s what we learned about five of our players in yesterday’s game.

papiss cisse thanks allah

Papiss Cisse – giving thanks for his winning goal yesterday

  • Papiss Cisse – Papiss has had a difficult season and is no longer a starter, with Loic Remy having taking over that starting position this season, although Loic will most probably be at Arsenal next season. In the last two games Papiss has had many chances – maybe as many as eight and he has scored just once.
    But we give Papiss credit for never giving up and he was unlucky with a number of his efforts, with the two goalkeepers making some good saves in the last couple of games. And as John Carver said after the game, Papiss converted his most difficult chance yesterday – and it was a great header from an excellent Ben Arfa cross.
    Papiss Cisse may leave us in the summer – but we hope he stays on Tyneside – and before the end of the season we also hope he scores a few more goals for us.
    What we learned about Papiss is that he has courage to keep getting in those scoring positions – and of course he got the winner very late in yesterday’s game, and that’s at least the fourth time he has scored a winner very late in a game at St. James Park in the last two seasons.
  • Ben Arfa – the French International is another player who could be leaving Newcastle in the summer, but we hope he’s given a new contract. Yes, Ben Arfa can be inconsistent and yes, he doesn’t do enough work in defense, but there are not many better match-winners in the Newcastle squad than this player, when he’s in form.
    And when he came on yesterday he posed a real threat to the Crystal Palace defense, and the opposition had nobody near the talent of the 27 year-old. Ben Arfa set up a great chance for Papiss Cisse with a great right wing cross, and then deep into stoppage time he sent in a beautiful cross that Cisse headed home well.
    The mercurial Frenchman can be infuriating at times, but Ben Arfa is still a great player when he’s in form and there are few better match-winners than this lad on his day.
    We’d love to see Ben Arfa given a new contract in the summer, but that’s far from certain at the moment.
  • Luuk de Jong - Luuk hasn’t yet taken the opportunities he has been given to get a permanent deal at the club at the end of his loan spell in the summer, and yesterday he was less than impressive up front, and seemed to shy away from the physical challenges of the Palace defense.
    Maybe Luuk doesn’t have the strength and physicality it needs to be a top striker in the Premier League – like Demba Ba for instance.  Luuk may well be dropped to the bench on Tuesday night at home to Everton, and we’d love for him to do well at Newcastle and get a permanent deal.
    But the 23 year-old needs to show he can be a first team Newcastle striker ,and half way through his loan spell he has still to prove that.
  • Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa – we were big fans of the Frenchman before he arrived on Tyneside and in the fourteen months Mapou’s been on Tyneside, he’s had some poor games where’s he’s given away penalties and made some daft challenges in and around the penalty box.
    But Mapou has had two solid games at right back  in place of the injured Mathieu Debuchy, and yesterday he was solid and had a very decent game. Maybe it’s just that Mapou needs more games in the Premier League to become fully acclimatized.
    And because of his versatility – the Frenchman can play anywhere across the back four – the former Montpellier captain has made 22 appearances this season to go with the 20 times he played for Newcastle last season – and remember he’s still only 24 and played 219 times for Montpellier – and he also has good leadership skills.
    This lad can still become a success on Tyneside.
  • Paul Dummett - the local lad had another solid game at left back, and is standing in for the injured Davide Santon, and his crosses and corners were a lot better than last week at Fulham – and in fact they were quite good yesterday.
    Paul needs a long run in the Newcastle side and he will definitely improve, and as long as he remains fit it could be that he will start in each of our last eight games of the season.
    And if in those games he continues to do well we could well see Davide Santon sold in the summer – with Roma being the latest Italian club who would be very willing to take him back to Italy.
    Paul Dummett seems to have what it takes to become a Newcastle regular – although he still has a lot to learn – we hope he makes it.

Let us know what you think – comments always welcome.



Tags: Luuk de Jong · Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa · Newcastle News · Papiss Cisse · Paul Dummett · Premier League



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57 responses so far ↓

  • 1 dawid182 // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    omg, dummett had a solid game? lets be honest, he’s sucks, santon is much better

  • 2 Mister Tuff // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM

    wolfshead -what is this “booty” you talk of – We gentleman are not always aware of new colloquial expressions used by other classes. Is it pirate treasure you speak of.

  • 3 Ciaran // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM

    A photograph of Davide Santon taped to a broom would be more defensively capable than the actual Davide Santon…

  • 4 Mister Tuff // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    still be a decent sweeper.

    GET IN.

  • 5 ash1001 // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    My thoughts on the same players:-
    CISSE- was MOM yesterday, he never gave up, goalkeeper made some smart saves from his efforts.
    De JONG – Not good enough, slow, does not like tackling, we can do better I am sure with 8m.
    MBWIA – Steady but not exceptional, do better that the like of Danny Simpson (remember him), but hopefully will get better.
    HBA – Hes got to be given his chance, worts and all, its arm around the shoulder stuff thats called for, but until ha came on yesterday we did not have anyone to take a player on, and he got back to head a corner away from CP as the first man.
    DUMMETT – Still got an awful long way to go, good job Colo was there to cover for him, totally out of steam for the last 20 minutes or so, as for corners & crosses 0/2 and 1/4 found a NUFC player. lacks pace as well.

    That’s my take on them.

  • 6 Ciaran // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    Tuff

    Didn’t even realise that I was setting that up! Haha

  • 7 beermonkey // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:38 PM

    santon needs to go on a special defence learning regime
    and need to use his left foot more

    when h overlaps he is easy to defend against
    same as ben arfa out on the right its waste a times

    could ben arfa be more effective if he was on the left and instead of feeling the need to try and beat a man he could whip a ball in the box with his favoured left foot

  • 8 welshgeordie9 // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    Good afternoon Ciaran how are you

  • 9 Mister Tuff // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    I see Martinez is setting his stall out to get 17 points at least from their remaining nine fixtures. He wants to get to 71 points in the hope of getting a CL spot. He is apparently not interested in the Europa League.
    If there was any doubts about what Everton are going to do on Tuesday -this should suggest they will be positive and be going for all three points. It will be a very difficult game -they are playing better as a team than we are. What will Percy do -go ultra defensive and hope for the breakaway goal (again). I’ll be surprised if we get anything from the game.

  • 10 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    Ed, if Benny was offered a new contract do you think he will sign it?

    …I have my doubt (I have my doubt about alot of players in this situation)

  • 11 Jail for Ashley // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:53 PM

    Mister Tuff,
    I was at the game yesterday and it was tough to watch, the first bit of action MOTD showed was Cisses chance which was about half an hour in.

  • 12 welshgeordie9 // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:53 PM

    Yeah I’m alright thanks, thanks for asking

  • 13 Ciaran // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    Welsh

    Yeah I’m alright thanks, thanks for asking.

    Patience is a virtue.

  • 14 beermonkey // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    jesper

    If I was benny I would be looking and thinking I might sit tight fir a year and leave on a free

    mister tuff

    pards will always set us up defensively its what he knows and does
    not sure its the best thing to do against everton with baines and colemen being such good outlets for them would be better if we could keep them in there own half

  • 15 Ciaran // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    Spurs are absolutely terrible! On the other hand, Southampton are a pretty impressive side.

  • 16 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 23, 2014 at 1:59 PM

    beer…I could actually see Benny do that!

    …Yes! Pardew is a one trick pony ;)

  • 17 welshgeordie9 // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    Ciaran

    Yeah sorry about that it’s just on here I don’t know which are avoiding and which ones aren’t

  • 18 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    Some crazy results yesterday…this season really is a strange one!

  • 19 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    …maybe that is why we are 9th?

  • 20 Sazzer // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    Our possession game have gone up under Carver although against two awful opponents. Still 73 % yesterday and 61 % against Fulham. Interesting to see if it’s a trend we can keep even against tougher side like Everton.

    Because of the big possession you could see Anita and Tiote getting in positions they aren’t used to be in and they got better and better the more times they got into the final third. Still a lot of work to be done on their killer balls and our wingers need stay in wider positions to open up space.

    And with this new possesion philosophy if only Ben-arfa play simple passes until he gets the ball out wide then he and our strikers can truly flourish.

  • 21 Mister Tuff // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:02 PM

    jail -afternoon – somebody posted yesterday that we looked like a team of blokes who had just met up for a game. Just do not look like a cohesive unit. Some on here are suggesting that finally Cisse will be up and running now – take a few more games for any certainty about that.
    I get the feeling that there are going to be a few sales in the summer to boost the transfer pot and that perhaps Mr Tubbs (El Gourdo) will be getting the wallet out big style.

  • 22 BonVoyageBenny // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    In the spirit of Ash1001, here’s my opinion on the same five players;

    Cisse: Evidently lacking confidence. The chances came to him and on a good day he’d have had a hat trick. He just didn’t have the confidence to put the ball in the net, but when that returns, we should be alright for goals. Good movement, obviously been working on his runs.

    Ben Arfa: Made an impact yesterday, and was rightly bought from the bench. Wouldn’t have lasted the pace, and would have got frustrated with Palace’s tactics for 90 minutes. Was much more successful than Sissoko, who I felt was seriously underperforming. Start against Everton, which will be a much more open game.

    De Jong: Disappointed yesterday, not the same ball winning striker we’ve seen recently. Failed to win headers and his movement was lacking. Like Cisse, confidence evidently shattered.

    MYM: Still not convinced, his concentration is suspect, and seems out of sorts with the ball. Definitely not a right back, would keep him at Centre Back.

    Dummett: A solid performance, but still can’t see how he’s getting ahead of Haidara. Last season Haidara was a much better player than Dummett is now, both attacking and defensively. Struggled to link up with Gouffran, and was caught out of position more than once when Palace attacked. Kept a clean sheet, so can’t complain.

  • 23 Ciaran // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    Welsh

    Do what I do. Don’t talk to anyone, just type out your opinions and if anyone engages, engage back, if they don’t so what? Just keep on keeping on.

  • 24 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    Ruddy…well aren’t you talking to welsh right now mate ;)

  • 25 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:11 PM

    …back in a jiffy! making some hot coco for junior!

  • 26 welshgeordie9 // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:11 PM

    Ciaran

    Thanks for that, I will do that from now on

  • 27 beermonkey // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    do spurs regret selling defoe

  • 28 ilovetoon8788 // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    My heart really goes out to Cisse.

    The way the whole team rallied with Cisse after his goal shows just how much they all want the best for him. He never stopped trying and his positional sense all game was of a world class striker, especially the improvised shot straight at the goalie in the first half was great to watch.

    hope we smashes a hattrick against Everton and sends the greedy Remy packing.

  • 29 beermonkey // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    with remy not signing for us and looks like arsenal
    whats peoples opinion on dropping him and playing cisse

    as it is who would buy cisse
    is it not best to see if he can regain his form at least then we stand a chance of having a striker we could sell or score us some needed goals next season

    while I think there is potentially a lot of players leaving this summer I don’t think there will be many comin in

  • 30 anthc // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    Cisse worked hard yesterday and although it took him several chances got his deserts. Previous to this I think he has been poor when coming off the bench.
    De jong was poor yesterday and to be honest is average at best. Few games left to turn it around
    Ben arfa put in two good balls but still needs to beat a man three times rather than do the simple thing. I was a bit concerned too when cisse bombed forward and ben arfa casually jogged behind him should’ve been busting a gut imo.
    Mbiwa looks a bit casual at times but did what was required plus a good pass which cisse missed. Has bags of potential to be a decent defender but don’t know whether he’ll realise it here.
    Dummet was caught out alot yesterday when bombing forward with a simple ball over his head. This may explain why his lungs were hanging from his arse. Colo cleared up a few times. His set plays were quite poor too.
    I thought the game was hard on the eyes and the atmosphere non existent. I think the crowd being the 12th man works both ways the players need to excite the crowd. I remember the villa game and the atmosphere in the last 10 mins went through the roof because we were attacking and pushing on. Im dreading next season as we are dire without remy and still need players elsewhere on the pitch. Fingers crossed cashley will splash the cash….

  • 31 Sazzer // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    We have really tough schedule left but if we go on Benny and Cisse magic run again then we can still challenge for 5th place maybe even 4 th place if Arsenal hit bad form.

  • 32 toon kk // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    We may have won yesterday but we were still badly lacking quality, take out a couple of our best players and we’re a championship side.
    I don’t know what goes on in training or its lack of effort im not sure.

  • 33 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    If Arsenal want Remy where does that leave Giroud ? .

    Would anyone have him at NUFC ? . I would .

  • 34 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 23, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    @ Sazzer

    That is what I was thinking m8 . We should maybe try 4-4-3 again like we did in the latter stages of the 5h place season, however this time we will have someone more suited to the wing in Remy than we did with Ba .

    ——HBA——Cisse——Remy——

  • 35 Jail for Ashley // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    anthc,
    Good post.
    Mister Tuff,
    Mashers could still redeem himself if he ploughs the profits back in there’s no reason why he shouldn’t, but the debt has to be paid back at some stage and the next accounts should see it reduced, I can see about 13M spent but not sure how much will come our way from sales.

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Toon KK,
    Something about Collo yesterday showed me he was seeing his days out.

  • 37 BonVoyageBenny // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    So what do we do if we beat Everton on Tuesday night? It would leave us 5 points behind them (albeit with a game extra) and Spurs in 5th and 6th respectively. Do you reckon we could have a go at catching them? Thinking hypothetically of course.

  • 38 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    BPC…I think that will leave Giroud playing and Remy warming the bench ;)

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    BvB,
    In a nutshell no, a better team looking for a win yesterday would have had us in deep trouble.

  • 40 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    …and yes 4-4-3 is a cool formation ;)

  • 41 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Seems like SOTON didn’t want to win today (Eriksen was on fire though)

  • 42 beermonkey // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    BPC

    I would agree with you but I would put goofy there just cos he is ours and we need to get by without remy

    to many time this season when we lose some1 out the starting 11 we are woeful its like we never practice without certain players in the team,

    also with cisse scoring all those goals when he frst arrived in that formation and ba left I don’t know why pardew didn’t start with that formation at the start of the season

  • 43 roy // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    We have learned most on this blog do not know anything about football and should take up another past time instead of boring me.

  • 44 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:32 PM

    Who died and took along this blog with them?

  • 45 mag // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    Prdew should be sacked his old football tactics are terrible to watch half decent players look awful with his brand of football. Anita is useless along with de jong, dummet, Williamson and Shola.

  • 46 magpie6699 // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    Still thought Southampton looked very dangerous in attack and having nightmares about watching them next week against our defence.

  • 47 wolfshead@toon // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    @43

    its funny you say that and the grim reaper appears

  • 48 mag // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Newcastle were chronic down the left wing, why Haidara can’t get a game instead of dummet.

  • 49 beermonkey // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    mag

    he is here to stay

  • 50 beermonkey // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    magpie6699

    Southampton are a tidy team and seem to have good options coming of the bench as well if things not going there way

    everton is going to be a tough one then Southampton after is tough a draw against both would be good but I think we will find it hard to stop them scoring

  • 51 mag // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    Cisse might go on a scoring run after that header.

  • 52 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    ;)

  • 53 toon kk // Mar 23, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    With the players we have there’s no way we are ever going to be world beaters, but there’s something sadly missing with the players we have. Whether its our training, fitness levels, lack of interest and effort or down to pardew I’m not sure. We are capable of being a very good side but on too many occasions we just don’t turn up. Surely it all can’t be down to Remy being out?

  • 54 BonVoyageBenny // Mar 23, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    What we have to hope is we galvanise as a team after that late winner. It’s not happiness that was expressed at the end, it was relief. I’m expecting a defeat on Tuesday and Saturday, but what if we get a win? With Remy and Debuchy back, we can only hope it’ll push us on to challenge teams. We were woeful yesterday, but we won, and that might just give us a boost of confidence to go on and finish the season in fine fettle.

  • 55 mindshaft // Mar 23, 2014 at 4:20 PM

    Wasn’t a cross, HBA was actually shooting
    Cisse played well yesterday and could have had a hat trick, think we need to play HBA and Marvs if we are going to get the best out him we need our creative players on the pitch – admittedly that will leave us wide open at the back but foook it, let’s play 4-3-3 for rest of season and attack, we’ve got nothing to lose as we’re going to finish 8th or 9th regardless – may as well give the fans some excitement

  • 56 Sazzer // Mar 23, 2014 at 4:22 PM

    Big Pappa Cissé
    We have a lot of potential formations and have everything to win.

    Worst case we end up in middle of the table and in best case a CL spot.

  • 57 mindshaft // Mar 23, 2014 at 4:22 PM

    I thought Dummett was poor yesterday – I’d like to see Haidara given a run of games then we can see who we should play next season after we sell Santon in the summer




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