It’s Looking Like A Mass Exodus From Newcastle This Summer


With the news today that Alan Pardew is having some reservations about French defender Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, it is starting to look like there could be a mass exodus from Newcastle this summer.

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Mathieu Debuchy – making noises about wanting to join PSG

Newcastle are already going to lose players like Loic Remy, Shola Ameobi, Dan Gosling, Jonas Gutierrez, Romain Amalfitano, Conor Newton and Gabby Obertan in the summer – and those are almost certain to leave, along with Luuk de Jong.

And it’s looking like other French players like Ben Ara, Sylvain Marveaux and Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa could join them – and it was worrying that Ben Arfa was hauled off at the break on Saturday, and his Newcastle career could be at an end – but we hope that’s not the case.

And  Mathieu Debuchy is making noises about wanting to join PSG in the summer, and Luuk de Jong seemingly is not making the grade on Tyneside, we could have lots of players moving out in the summer.

And the fact that the Newcastle captain Fab Coloccini would not be interviewed after Saturday’s debacle at Southampton, may mean he wants to get out this summer,  and join his family in Buenos Aries – or it could mean he was just too embarrassed by the performance.

So that’s potentially as many as 13 players could leave Newcastle in the summer – Loic Remy, Shola Ameobi, Dan Gosling, Jonas Gutierrez, Romain Amalfitano,  Conor Newton, Gabby Obertan, Ben Ara, Sylvain Marveaux,  Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Mathieu Debuchy, Fab Coloccini and Luuk de Jong.

And we didn’t even mention Papiss Cisse and Davide Santon, and clubs could come after those two in the summer as well

That’s far too many players for Newcastle to lose in one summer, and it would be almost impossible to replace them all, but  it’s worrying to read in the local papers that a number of our players want out in the summer. 🙁

So what is needed are some strong performances from the Newcastle side in the final six games of the season, but that’s easier said than done, with Newcastle’s season sliding away.

And it could even be that we finish 10th in the league table, and if that happens it would be a huge disappointment.

Comments welcome.



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70 comments so far

  • Please please please please please please please cut the number of repeated articles! Please!

    From the last thread I agree with whoever said Ben Arfa gets absolutely no support. When you watch Suarez or Aguero do a mazy run they always have players moving about and providing options. When Ben Arfa looks to start one, he looks up everytime (I watch him closely) sees not one person moving, or if they are it’s jogging out of his way, and they just stand and watch. It’s utterly abysmal, he needs movement and constant options. When was the last time anyone watched us play a slick one two? He looks for that but everyone is static beyond him.
    If I were him against saints after the second or third time of looking up and seeing no options, I’d have just kicked the ball out of play and walked down the tunnel. Absolutely no point in him playing is a side as poor as ours and he knows it.

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  • Greebol1892

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #2

    Ed you seem determined that we are letting 14 players go.

    Really?

    If so, I’m looking forward to signing the required 19 players to strengthen the 1st team & squad……

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #3

    And on the benny subject

    I really hope he doesn’t start benny purely because it wouldn’t be fair on the lad to take all the blame for a demoralising loss again, bring him on if we need to “nick” a goal when we’re 0-2 down lol

    He needs confidence and the freedom to do what he does best! ATTACK!

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  • Jakenufc

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #4

    If I was in charge of transfers, this would be my team for next season…baring in mind that we will sell ALOT of players in the summer. I think realistically we could get these players in. I think if Cardiff go down, Caulker may want to find a new club and he has put in some solid performances for them this season. And as for lacazette, in my opinion, he is a top prospect and would be an excellent buy.

    Krul

    Jenkinson Caulker Solid CB Dummet/haidara

    Tiote

    Cabella Grenier Gouffran

    Gomis Lacazette

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #5

    About Benny it is a difficult one because we really don’t see eye to eye on this one. But before certain posters stray down a patch of lies when it comes to Benny’ past and his consistency or lack there of for some, I would like to point you in the direction of our very own niafron!

    …he had tried to set the record straight on many occasions, but it seems to have missed a few (or maybe it is just short term memory or selective memory)

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  • Scottiedog

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #6

    It’s not a mass exodus, it’s a mass clear out of players not good enough for the Premier League!! Maybe somebody can confiscate Carrs passport so he can look at the English Leagues!!!!!
    IMO if we still had Nolan & Barton playing we would never have capitulated against Saints on Sat……….

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  • jazzyp

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #7

    Jesper- morning mate
    Missed niafron’s post bud. What was his take on the mercurial talent that is ben arfa

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  • mindshaft

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #8

    It could be that we finish 11th if we keep up our run of ‘form’ and Stoke / West Ham keep winning games

    To be honest I wouldn’t mind as it would mean Pards and co wouldn’t get bonuses which they don’t deserve

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  • jimmysmith

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #9

    The lack of a challenge by Mbiwa for a ball that he simply had to attack is the most atrocious piece of non defending I’ve seen in a professional game. Add that to the inexplicable pen he gave away to Eto and you’d have to say maybe he’s just an odd guy. You can’t do that. Titus Bramble was never so ludicrous.

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  • aidytoon9

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #10

    For me benny would be playing week in week out!
    No he won’t track back all the time, nor would I want him to that’s why you have others doing that for him.
    The only thing I would change from his game is to bring others into the game more often. I think benny is the kind of player that you need to really man manage and if that means telling him he is great all the time to get regular top performances then so be it.
    Remember ginola? Yes two different players but same in ways.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #11

    Jesper,
    Niafron has his opinion, but there are also many in France who disagree with Niafron’s view of the player. He splits opinion there just as he does with Newcastle fans.

    There is no wrong or right on this one bud, just peoples views. But the lad isn’t a kid anymore, and we shouldn’t be talking about him being potentially one of the best in the world. If he had made the most of his undoubted talent he would be one of the best. Sadly for us and for him, he hasn’t.

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/what-the-french-public-think-of-hatem-ben-arfa/

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  • sweendog

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #12

    I hope we keep the spine and add on our good players .. we need to 100% keep, Tiote, Debuchy,Collo, Willo,Krul, Sissoko and hopefully Remy and I do think Ben Arfa, and MBwia.
    Although I think MBwia will be used to get a good attacking player (Cabella)and he is on top wages.
    What we need is good quality cover for these players, especially Tiote.(guy from Lyon) Then 2 strikers at least one ACM (Grenier/Salzburg player) and a second young back up ACM.
    A RW, LW, RB and LB and importantly a CB young guy to replace MBwia, Caulker is my choice.

    Without this we’re not a top 6 team.

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  • mindshaft

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #13

    You can’t put HBA in the same boat as Ginola or Robert – we played a completely different style of football then with players who actually had some forward movement and trying to make space to make themselves available
    Both Ginola and Robert would look awful in the current team under Pards as we are extremely static and player movement is almost non existent as they seem scared to move forward and even more scared of the ball!

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  • aidytoon9

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #14

    Mapou should never be playing at left back and santon should never be playing at right back.
    Would keep cisse though as managed in the right way and play to his strengths he will come good again as we have seen him produce.
    Players like shola have never done that.

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  • sweendog

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #15

    On the Ben Arfa question .. he needs us to have a few more attacking players and he’ll show how good he is .. unfortunately as we can all tell he has to try everything himself .. quality player on his day ..if we are to progress we should be dangling a contract in front of him if after 6-10 games next season he can do it .. what worries me is at the moment he is a bit of a scape goat IMO.

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  • aidytoon9

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #16

    Not putting benny in the same boat as ginola as I stated that they were different players just saying ginola never tracked back.
    Yes we do play a different way now as we haven’t got a forward thinking manager and have sold cabs and don’t play marv.

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  • Assam Toon

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #17

    yes we are not going to buy quality players who understand HBA’s movements and be in the right position to receive the ball from his mazy runs. Also we are not going to strengthen our defence to provide adequate cover behind him. So yes, let’s sell him because he loses the ball although he loses the ball because he has to retain the ball too long most often, because the team is not playing around its most talented player and because the team’s most talented player doesn’t offer much defensive cover. absolute morons in charge of the club!!! 3 years and still no playing style, no idea about best team, unable to get the best out of the best player.
    Imagine where we would have been if we had a decent manager who would have linked up cabaye and HBA into a lethal midfield partnership. it would have been poor man’s iniesta-messi combo. instead one is gone and the other is like a battleship in the hands of a fisherman. no wonder he will be sold.

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  • DENIro

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #18

    I think that, when you play strikers who don’t produce, and you have a striker who never had a chance to play his role, and who scores sometimes from left wing, must be very frustrating for him.. Why don’t try Gouffran as a lone striker, Arfa behind him, and behind them a 8 man team to defend and attack.. Something like:

    ……….krul………..
    deb.will..colo.san
    ..anita……..tiote…
    sissoko…. sammy
    ……..ben arfa…….
    ……..gouffran…….

    Teams who concide goals, have to score goals… I think we could, just give this lad a chance…

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  • mindshaft

    Apr 1, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #19

    Gouffran has been awful since Jan – not sure what has gone on there

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  • Blofal

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #20

    I think we will be feeding of scraps in the transfer market.

    No recognised player is going to want to come. Players like Lacazette and Doumbia who are really what we want and need simply will have better options than to play for us.

    The mass exodus doesn’t look good to any incoming player wither.

    We can scrap looking at any player who already plays at a Champions League club in Europe, including France.

    And we can scrap looking at players who could potentially move to a European Champions League club.

    That leaves us with scraps. The Lacazettes, Remys, Aubameyangs and Lukakus are out of our league.

    If Carr doesn’t find some gems and if Ashley doesn’t spend the $100 million he SHOULD have from our lack of transfer activity and past player sales… then we will be relegated next season.

    My god Carroll and Cabaye is at least $50 million alone that we should have pocketed.

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  • mindshaft

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #21

    Well those people who don’t want Sunderland to be relegated should be happy that we’ll probably join them in the championship next season

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  • Oldgit1

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #22

    What action we as fans are able to do to show our dissatisfaction of the way our great club is run:

    On conclusion of our home fixture of the season :
    Boo the players when they do the traditional lap of honour.

    Mass sit in of st James park. This would get some publicity.

    Wave a white hankie Obote our heads as do the Italians supporters.

    Boo the manager and call for him to be sacked.

    Shout Ashley Out.

    Or just put up with the crap being served.

    Your choice.

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  • Blofal

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #23

    Mindshaft Gouffran is knackered. This happened last season too.

    Pardew does not use his squad. He is too scared of being belted to use other players… so he plays the same squad and they either get injured or play awfully because of fatigue.

    Three games in 8 days and we played an almost identical team all 3. That was an ideal chance to give players like Marv, Haidara, Gosling and Armstrong some game time. Haidara got one game… the rest got nothing.

    I realise our squad isn’t big enough (it will be even smaller next season) but I mean there is no hurt playing someone like Gosling… he is actually quite solid defensively and when he plays is often our only midfielder in the box when a ball is crossed in.

    And FFS why not play Armstrong and Ben Arfa against Crystal Palace when you know they are going to offer zero offensive threat and just park the bus? No logic. No common sense.

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  • croftus5678

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #24

    we all know the media hates us and they will make anything up to upset us !

    personally i dont believe a word of this ! debs will stay imo so will mbiwa who i believe will come good next season when put under pressure and given a consistant run in the first team (just like willo did)

    not all smiles though by a log way as we will need atleast 2 top class strikers (i’ll be happy with arma/cambell as 3rd choice) and we def need a left winger if arfa is not going to be consistant enough for siss to go onto the left.

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  • I think this has been covered before but for all those saying Armstrong should have played… He was on international duty all last week therefore he wasn’t available!

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  • beermonkey

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #26

    apart from gosling and shola and the 2 loan players
    no1 is confirmed as there leaving
    ben arfa is likely to be sold as he has 1 year left on his contract
    they will try and find clubs for players like marv and obertan because they have no future at the club

    the rest is media rumour and misquotes
    yes all our players have a price there is nothing new there

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  • beermonkey

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #27

    Geremi’s Prosthetic Leg Fund

    your comment @1 its not just a problem for benny but for any of our offensive players there is a lack of movement of the ball, ldj and cisse last time they starts had some 1 2s going on
    a lot of our players first touch at times is as bad as peter kay in the Whitbread advert, but like our set piece training we don’t seem to address this either it could coached out of them
    really make you wonder what goes on at training

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  • toon kk

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #28

    I wonder how many will pack SJP to watch Man u rip our lacklustre squad apart?

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  • Beer monkey – Have it! I agree there is distinct lack of pace and movement when we move forward, it appears worse for Ben Arfa as he is one of our only dribblers (Sissoko has the pure power to knock people out of the way so doesn’t rely on the movement so much, even then he hits blind alleys due to lack of awareness from everyone around him).
    It’s the same old story though, none of these aspects of our play have even been touched on since Pardew arrived which is poor management.

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  • cyprus

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #30

    AP should not have reservations about anyone but himself anymore. Mbiwa was the captain of a title winning side and now he looks lost at sea. HBA was brimming with confidence, now he has many stinkers. Cisse, wow, from hero to zero. The list goes on. Even Debuchy almost sank. Pardew, really, just walk mate.

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  • toon kk

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #31

    We’ve lacked pace for years, that’s why we are often chasing shadows.
    Pace should be high on our shopping list.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #32

    Geremi

    Very true

    Ok we don’t do so many high an long balls now, but our only passing on the deck is all in our own half!!

    The other day i saw Sissoko having to try and take on 3 opponents because not 1 black and white shirt was within 10 yards of him offering any support in the opposition half of the pitch!!

    No overlapping no triangles, no 1-2’s, no movement beyond the man with the ball, etc, etc.

    I can’t believe with so many continental players we didn’t get a Rui Garcia, Laurent Blanc or Rene Girard when available.

    It makes no sense having a traditional very old school and out dated English manager from the 80s.

    I bet Cisse, Marv, Benny , MYM, Haidara etc would look totally different players with a decent manager or do well again when they move on.

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  • the truth will out

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #33

    get shot 0f the lot of the money grabbing twasturds

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  • Ancientcoptic

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #34

    I am not sure what Pardew does anymore, apart from pick frustrating teams.

    It was clear earlier in the season, when Tiote was captain, that we do not need 2 defensive midfielders… Tiote is much better covering this zone on his own, if he has somebody beside him it gets cluttered, and 2 players end up sharing the work that Tiote can do on his own. 4.2.3.1 formation is a waste of a man in the wrong position.

    Why has Ben Arfa never been offered a run as CAM – that is exactly what he is, it is not in his job description to track back. People talk about Ben Arfa not being consistent, well I would disagree, Ben Arfa is always consistent… he will always bust a gut to attack, dribble and make runs, create chances and YES even Ben Arfa makes a stray pass now and again, EVERY player does it.

    Why is Anita playing as our furthest forward midfielder? Anita is playing the CAM role recently, and I have not heard one person bring up his laziness yet, whilst Ben Arfa gets slayed for doing a better shift at attacking than Anita does.

    Gouffran isn’t playing well because he is being treated like a work lump, he never gets rotated or refreshed, the management is doing nothing to use his spark… he looks drained and the answer is to keep playing him.

    Gosling is on the bench, with his contract running out in the summer… WTF is that all about? Give him a chance, or drop him from the bench.

    Sissoko, is he a number 10, a defensive midfielder, a central midfielder or a right winger… who knows… he looks best on the right wing so far. Leave it up to our management to not have that one figured out yet.

    Who is currently our first choice left back? Anybody? I don’t have a clue. Contrary to what some said, I thought Haidara did okay against the Saints. You have to remember this was Haidara’s first start in a long time, and he was getting no cover… he still kept a rampant Saints to crossing from the corner flag, so he was covering his lines. I think with a run of games he is our number 1, but who knows what will happen in that position, if the management don’t know, how can we.

    Is Colo staying next season… we have been left in a state of limbo about that one, if he is, why are we not playing his replacement now, to get him up to speed. (Mbiwa – who shouldn’t be playing right back, or being blamed for flunking in an unnatural position)

    How come a keeper that cost 500,000 can come in from the dark, and instantly look better than Krul in his first game. Is it because Krul is devoid of confidence from playing in front of a badly trained defence?

    Adam Armstrong & Campbell… there has been little to nothing said about these players, who would be surprised if they are both chasing a ball around on a muddy pitch up in Scotland next season.

    And the biggest puzzle of all…… what style of football do Newcastle play? I will be damned if I know.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #35

    toon kk

    so true, that’s why sbr got us bellamy, dyer etc

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  • Ciaran

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #36

    Honestly it is like Groundhog Day here every day.

    There are those who want Ashley gone, and there are those who want Pardew gone, and there are those who want them both gone.

    Some people who want Ashley gone and not Pardew say to those who do, that Pardew isn’t the problem and that it is Ashley we should be focusing on.

    Those who want Pardew gone and don’t focus on Ashley say that a better manager would get more out of our players, and in any case it is easier to get rid of a manager than an owner.

    There is legitimacy in both claims.

    However, those who are saying that it is more likely that we will get rid of Pardew than see the back of Ashley are failing to realise that Ashley will be chuffed to pieces with Pardew’s management of the team so far. Not only is he getting by with mediocre investment, he is probably over-achieving, getting into the top 10 forcing Ashley to pay the squad bonuses that come along with that.

    Also, Pardew is the perfect foil for Ashley in the sense that no matter what Ashley does, no matter how ridiculous the matter may be, Pardew will face the cameras and defend him. Pardew will take great victories and dedicate them to our most illustrious custodian in a pathetic attempts to pander to him, and will spin lie after lie after lie.

    Ashley and Pardew are one entity as far as this journey is concerned. I firmly believe that while Ashley’s name is above the door, Alan Pardew will not be going anywhere which is why I think our focus should be on Ashley.

    While I am critical of the likes of HBA, Marv, Cisse and Santon, I suppose one should take into account the shocking environment that is created for them, both on and off the pitch by tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum which isn’t conducive for free-flowing, attack-minded ambitious football.

    The sad reality is that there is no end in sight. No dawn on the horizon, and I personally think that things will get much, much worse before they get better – but this could be a case of lowering expectations to the ground floor, and supporters being ‘pleasantly surprised’ when we only sell 3/4 players, as opposed to the 5/6 that we’re worried about, or that if we sign a couple of players, we’ll be grateful following the last two transfer windows.

    Whatever way you look at it, the club is not going in the right direction, and for people like TeDiouS to champion the fact that we are in 9th with 46 pts (when we got 37 pts before the New Year) is absolutely insulting.

    Sorry for the rant folks.

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  • beermonkey

    Apr 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #37

    Geremi’s Prosthetic Leg Fund

    a blind chimp could do a better job than pards just because he would do the basics

    and half the time its the basics that lets us down

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  • Does anyone remember when Ben Arfa first arrived? He was tearing up teams and was all over the pitch and popping up in different areas and making himself available.
    Shows you what confidence does, now none of the players have confidence and it really shows. Ben Arfa has been reduced to half the player he was when he arrived. He now hugs the right touch line and gets cornered and has to come in on his left foot where there’s nothing available.
    It’s a damn disgrave how we’ve taken all of these promising players and reduced them to simple bodies. Gouffran came in and was a revelation, he was everywhere and showed some really smart passing and movement. Now he hugs the left touchline and passes backwards or sideways or loses the ball. I genuinely thought last January that we would kick on and see some consistent improvement but it’s gone backwards yet again.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Apr 1, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #39

    Jazzyp….sorry I had to run just earlier!

    basically he said that Benny’s problem in the past was not inconsistency or lack of game time, but down to attitude and him getting into trouble with team mates and especially authorities (coaches)

    I like to think that is not the case now (but I don’t know of course) He has said so himself and Pardew seems to indicate the same.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Apr 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #40

    Jazzyp…I’ll ask niafron to re-post if he can remember then he posted it 🙂

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