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It’s A Worry How Newcastle Get To The Next Level

9:35 am, Saturday, April 12th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 103 Comments

Newcastle fans were used to the club being in Europe fairly regularly, but all that ended once Sir Bobby Robson was sacked in late August of 2004, and since then Newcastle have been in decline, and Newcastle United have also lost their ambition under owner Mike Ashley, who has been the owner for almost seven years now – but there is precious little to show for it in terms of the team doing well on the pitch.

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Alan Pardew – how do we get to next level?

It’s obvious the summer is going to be an important transfer window for Newcastle, but manager Alan Pardew has talked this morning about how difficult it is for Newcastle to catch those top clubs.

They are the two Manchester clubs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham – who have invested big money over the last several years  - and of course Newcastle haven’t.

This is what Alan Pardew said today:

“All that investment now is starting to impact on those teams and the teams below have not had that financial push.”  “They’ve had it for six, seven, eight years, Chelsea ten or so.”

“It’s a worry, particularly for a club like this – how do we get to the next level? How do we impact on them? That’s a big question for us in the summer.”

“We have to be even shrewder in our transfer recruitment. We have to be clever with how we utilize players.”  “The size of our squad has to be almost detailed right to the last full stop because three or four players this year have been over-used.”

“And I think that has been a concern for us. That’s something else we need to put into the mix for the summer.”

Those top six clubs are ready to rule the roost for the next several years in the Premier League, so it will be very difficult for Newcastle to qualify for Europe, as it has been over the last seven years.

And other teams such as Everton and Southampton are coming up these days, so Newcastle are in danger of staying as a middle of the table team for the foreseeable future.

And the fact the owner seems to be happy enough just to be in the top ten - that’s a huge concern in itself - because if you don’t reach for the top you wont get there.

Newcastle can have a very good transfer window this summer, but it has to go almost perfectly for Newcastle to be challenging for a top six or even top eight position in the league next season.

What we’d like is for Newcastle to be challenging once again for a top four position and the Champions League, but that’s simply not going to happen anytime soon – maybe as long as Mike Ashley owns the club.

That is so sad. :(

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Financial Fair Play · Financials · Newcastle News · Premier League · Transfer News and Rumours



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103 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jeff from Benwell // Apr 12, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    A blind man on a galloping horse could see our season was over at xmas
    that is why we sold cabaye – We will rebuild in the Summer around a new shape midfield

  • 2 the truth will out // Apr 12, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    repost….
    it will be a decagon midfield

  • 3 Blofal // Apr 12, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    Jeff we are also going to sell Krul and Debuchy by the looks of things.

    Even if we do bring in good players they will take a season to get used to the premier league. And now all foreign players know our aim is NOT champions league the best won’t want to come.

    Next season is a write off already. I predict we will be hovering above relegation.

  • 4 Average_Contents // Apr 12, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    I think he’s taking a closer hold of the club, maybe, and I think that’s a good thing.” “He’s obviously been at the games, and he’s seen for good or bad what we are at the moment.”

    As if his stranglehold on the club wasn’t tight enough, it’s now got exponentially tighter to the point where he will eventually squeeze all remaining life out of NUFC without batting an eyelid!

  • 5 jazzyp // Apr 12, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    10mill is a steal for Krull if this is true.Would try and bring back Forster who we should have never sold in the first place.

  • 6 Jeff from Benwell // Apr 12, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    Because he has made many mistakesin the past Ashley is seen as being permanently hopeless-if you look at his track record away fro Footy he is quite brilliant I think NUFC is still a work in progress

  • 7 Jeff from Benwell // Apr 12, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    blofal you are assuming we will still go for foreigners

  • 8 Blofal // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Jeff I think Ashley won’t buy many English players because they are generally priced at what they are worth. There aren’t many bargains in English football.

    The only English players we will have under Ashley I suspect will come through the academy.

  • 9 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Pardew didn’t rate Forster. He gave him 45 minutes in a friendly and hauled him off at half-time after an error. Then he brought in Elliot from his old club who he thought was a better keeper.

  • 10 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Bla bla bla bla bla…

  • 11 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Jazzyp…we couldn’t keep Forster on the bench! We had to sell him Krul is and was far better.

    …Krul is having a off season like most other players sy this club :(

  • 12 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    *sy = at

  • 13 Jeff from Benwell // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:09 AM

    The Dutch National coaches think that much of Krul – they never select him

  • 14 Go toon gooooo // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    With Anita in the first team,Sissoko up front,Mbiwa right back,Ben Arfa and Marveaux on the bench does not exist next level for Newcastle.And don’t forget Williamson is a Championship player.Pardew out.

  • 15 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    Jeff…Krul has been injured and off form this season.

    Who else is getting picked these days?

  • 16 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    Mag52, you must also be taken in by what the silver tongue comes out with rather than seeing what is happening on the pitch in the form of lacking team cohesion and any clue of passing moving and creativity.

    He got the managers award because he came 5th, fair enough, but they just see a league placing, not the performances every week on the pitch. That was once in a blue moon for the chancer and a heap of luck attached to it as well as many posters have pointed out.I said at the time that I’ll hold off on my opinion of him until the start of the following season to see if the picking up points when playing poorly chances to picking up points by playing well.

    Last year, well, it tells its own story. ONCE AGAIN poor and disjointed, yet this time no points. What a surprise that we’re on an abysmal run now. It is not. Look at his career long underachieving and sackings.

    I think you’re deluded that you believe everything is ok with management because we get a lucky goal or three, yet the foundations behind it are awful. If you can’t see that now, you’ll never see it.

    Try looking at the wider picture. Ashley is at fault for employing Pardew and not sacking him more than the outlay on players in a way.

    Pardew is ruining players all over.

  • 17 Ibizatoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    In the long list of mistakes by the club, I’m not sure how we can consider letting Forster go as one of them.

    Krul was clearly and rightly our No.1 at the time and Forster didn’t want to stay on the bench and try and take Kruls spot.

    What were the options?

    From what I understand we have a good couple of keepers coming through the academy and we got in Elliot as immediate cover, who to be honest, despite not being a top keeper, has done himself and the club proud when called upon.

  • 18 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    If Pardew has any input in transfers I can see us buying Mark Nobel, Jack Colback, James Tompkins, & Rickie Lambert. 4 no-nonsense english grafters. Ryan Taylor will keep Haidara, Dummet, & Tavernier out of the squad.

    To be fair to Pardew he does seem to get the best out of championship players (Willo, Perch, Raylor) although he is clueless with players good enough to play in europe (Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Cisse, Tevez, Mascherano)

  • 19 Marty-Toon // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    Forster didn’t wanna stay as Nr.2

  • 20 Marty-Toon // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Everton don’t need to spend big this summer,they will however need to loan Lukaku or replace him with like for like.
    They also need to keep Coleman and Baines or they could struggle to reach the same heights.
    They’ve a great coach with great tactical wisdom and classy style unlike our skinny version of Fat Sam.

  • 21 Marty-Toon // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    We need to forget about the top 6 for the moment as they have much better squads and managers than ours and will continue to build with the money they receive from merchandise,PL position and top sponsorship while we will be looking for a few bags of lucky dip.
    Our next managers are lined up as Graham Taylor,Curbishley,Woy Hogson and the likes.
    Should be fun to hang in there :-(
    In case ye didn’t notice,I’M FECKIN FED UP.
    Weekends are ridiculous expecting to get beat and realizing its gonna happen and that it’s not gonna get better anytime soon ,AAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH

  • 22 mfw13 // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    1) Find owner who is actually interested in taking the club to the next level.
    2) Find owner who is actually interested in taking the club to the next level.
    3) Find owner who is actually interested in taking the club to the next level.
    4) Find owner who is actually interested in taking the club to the next level.
    5) Find owner who is actually interested in taking the club to the next level.

  • 23 jazzyp // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    All the same lads if we were to sell Krull……….Which personally would be a mistake,Would think Forster woujld make an ideal no 1. And has personally stated that he would love to come back.
    Ibiza
    Morning pal
    Personally I don’t see Elliot as a no 1, More as a harper type squad player.But as you say has done nothing wrong in his stand in games

  • 24 the truth will out // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    ashley is taking us to a lower level which is shit

  • 25 deang004 // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    If pardew was to be sacked and we got a decent amount to spend from Ashley to spend in summer (a big if) which managers would you all look to bring in and why? What kind of players do you reckon they will look to bring in as well? Personally think pardew is definitely not the right man to take this club forward and Ashley is not the right owner

  • 26 sparetheman // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Every comment Pardew makes is designed to lower expectations, which they do with great success. It does make him sound like a boring, negative metronome though.

    He always seems more concerned with what other teams are good at rather than what we are good at, this comes across in his media interviews and his team sheets every week. The teams who have made the most progress in recent times – Liverpool, Southampton and Everton – have shown the best way to improve in the modern league is with attacking, positive football, religiously focusing on your own team’s strengths and not fearing the competition. This seems to apply to wider football as well (see Dortmund and Athletico.)

    Football is moving on and Pardew is showing he cannot keep up.

  • 27 Graeme // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    Ashley has his plan being executed perfectly.
    We are in top half, we have no fear of relegation.
    We have made another Club Profit.
    We have made yet another Profit on player transfers
    We will receive the biggest payout in club history from the TV.

    He is a happy man; His manager even stated we have the strongest squad he has ever had.

    As a competetive Football Team – we are shite.

  • 28 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    I honestly don’t care whether Parsnip gets his way and we buy the likes of Mark Nobel, Jack Colback, James Tompkins, & Rickie Lambert, they are going to look mediocre any way :(

    …Parsnip will just make sure he have someone like Benny anyway to take the blame (the unsackable will never blame himself)

  • 29 Marty-Toon // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Assaidi ,Huth and Etherington are out for stoke today,not that that’ll make a difference for us really.
    Will be glad that Assaidi doesn’t beat our right back all day

  • 30 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Did this seriously need a new thread after the last one !!

    LR

    It’s amazing how people still dine out on Pardew’s only top 6th finish in nearly 20 years management. By the law of averages he was going to have 1 good season somewhere.

    We all know that season we came 5th there was a perfect storm of poor Raylor getting injured to finally give Ben Arfa a game, Cisse, Ba and Ben Arfa scoring goals of individual brilliance rather than any team goals, exceptional refereeing decisions going our way and Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs all having an off season.

    These same people championing Pardew, and, like him, blaming everyone else, never mention the fact he nearly relegated 3 clubs, had record losing streaks in the history of 2 different clubs and has gone on to break nearly every record going for the wrong reasons @ SJP, while playing the most mind numbing negative, defensive, containing anti-football ever seen at NUFC .

    Could you imagine with exactly the same squad Pardew doing the job Martinez has. It’s not just the players it’s the mindset and style. If Hughton had taken us as far as he could and in fairness he probably had then pardew has outstayed his welcome if he ever had one massively.

  • 31 Marty-Toon // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Has our back line scored 2 goals between them this season?
    Anyone know if we’ve got the lowest scoring back line in the PL?

  • 32 jazzyp // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Rotonda
    The same people Championing Pardew.Dont think ya will find anyone on this blog mate with that agenda

  • 33 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    graeme,

    On one day pardew says it’s the strongest squad ever, even stronger than when we came 5th and then on another day we get all the endless injuries and squad not good enough excuses.

  • 34 jazzyp // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    Marty
    Debs and Dummett mate and that’s ya lot. Shocking pal aint it

  • 35 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    My biggest concern about Pardew is that he cannot see it himself…he will drag us down if has to, but he will never walk :(

  • 36 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Jazzyp

    Sadly we still get the Mag 52s and Manxpies etc

  • 37 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    *he

  • 38 jazzyp // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    Jesper
    Stop with all this Pardew nonsense……We all know he’s your hero !!

  • 39 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    …don’t get started on manx – it has been so quite on here for a while :) (and I have been happy coming in here again)

  • 40 jazzyp // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Rotonda
    I think they have even given up the chase on that debate bud lol

  • 41 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    sparetheman

    allardyce was just the same , always worried about the opposition more than what we were going to do to teams.

  • 42 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Rotonda, as usual, you are quite right in my opinion.

    It’s not even dining out is it? More like the need of making it into an endless buffet of mediocre success. Awful. Close you eyes and throw darts at a dartboard and eventually you’ll hit a treble twenty. Pardew’s fifth place.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we got a win today, because Pardew seems to get one of these out of nowhere and it carries him the next half a dozen and more poor ones. A bit like Shola’s performances.

  • 43 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    jazzyp

    You could be right there, not even heard from toonking for a while and he was a pardew diehard

  • 44 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    jazzyp…yeah! as a manager he is just what the doctor perscripted ;) beautiful!

  • 45 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    LR

    that ‘s what worries me, it’s like a batsman who has a long long series of low scores, is about to be hooked and then scores a century to keep him in for another long stretch of mediocrity.

    By the law of averages i think we will win today but probably more by luck than design as Stoke are not exactly prolific scorers.

  • 46 jazzyp // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    Rotonda
    I think Ruddy and the Nust Squad has rounded them all up and put em up in front of the firing squad.
    Jesper
    You had quit a few run ins with manx a while back mate didn’t ya

  • 47 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    Me to Pardew:

    “…You are on your own
    You do as you please
    Having so much fun
    Gone and lost your reason
    After all is said and done
    But are you still having fun?
    How were you to know when you’ve gone astray?
    That happiness would go like a lost emotion
    You have always gone your way
    Are you happy today?

    But are you still having fun?”

  • 48 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    jazzyp…yeah manx is a hoot ;)

  • 49 yo-yo // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    “Newcastle Getting Nowhere Under Mike Ashley’s Ownership”
    “It’s A Worry How Newcastle Get To The Next Level”

    Surely its obvious – we a re NOT going to the next level and hovering about where we are is going to be difficult.
    Mash is busy speculating in his own shares and on the markets while Toon slides.

    Oh and the Hoops think they got a bargain on Forster – can’t beleive hew was so cheap…he raised his game against Barca but is prone to lapses..

  • 50 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Cabaye played in 5 losing games out of 7 just before he left and Everton lost Lukaku for 2 months.

    Losing one player shouldn’t derail the whole thing if the foundations are good.

    In hindsight would playing Marv and Benny either side of Cisse in a front 3 been any worse?

  • 51 jazzyp // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Yo Yo
    I think Forster for a 2.5 mill was a crazy price to sell the lad for.Could possibly be a future England no 1.As for lapses take a look at joe hart this season, He has made more cockups than coco the clown

  • 52 Toon Tang // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    Come on Al, there’s no big secret rosetta stone discoveery needed to see what the problems are at newcastle, if citizen smith in the street can see it, you should be able to.

  • 53 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    “…Well you know when you’ve been defeated
    You don’t care and you thank no one
    Feeling low you will always need it
    But are you’re having fun

    You don’t know what is it you’ve done
    You don’t know that…”

  • 54 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    …are you having fun?

  • 55 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Jazzy,
    Was it not a bargain price for Forster as he only had a year left on his contract though?

    I very much doubt he would come back, and if he were it wouldn’t be for less than we get for Krul. All the rumours have him heading to a club at the very top level, we aren’t that, and he wouldn’t come back for love of the club, he isn’t that Newcastle daft.

  • 56 Toon Tang // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    I say, everton will be in full basket weaving mode today chasing that 4th spot, should steamroll mackems.

    Its the only thing keeping me going at the weekends now.

  • 57 Mag52 // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    Rotonda, Laurent and the rest.
    Ed summed it up in his intro to this blog “Newcastle United have lost their ambition under owner Mike Ashley”.
    No ambition to replace key players sold off to boost the balance sheet, no ambition to give us the size of squad (of PL quality players) needed to cope with the demands of injuries, loss of form, suspensions etc. in this tough league. No ambition to acquire, yes, a top manager, and whatever you may think, I’ve no illusions that Pardew is that.
    For me he is a decent manager who, like even the best, he has had his failures and sackings along the way. A decent manager and person who has a passion for the team, that much surely cannot be in doubt, and who is doing his best in the face of the seeming indifference and total lack of ambition of his boss. Wouldn’t it be great to get a Mourinho, a Martinez, a Van Gaal, a Rodgers on board, but you know and I know that under Ashley that is not going to happen.You’ve all seen the latest statement. What could be more obvious ?
    Let’s face it. Pardew is an easy target and the only one you guys feel you have a chance of getting rid of. Ashley,as we know, is there till he decides he’s had enough of his plaything. He’s the whipping boy and instead of support all he gets is more abuse. Very sad.

  • 58 Ian Toon // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    jesper – I am still keeping an Eagle Eye out for your posts.

    What does it indicate when our away ticket allocation of 2,900
    are fully taken up? Many travelling Toon army fans today do not
    have a ticket.
    HWTL.

  • 59 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    Mag52,
    You say like any manager has had his failings and his sackings. Could you explain what his successes have been in his 15 years? One top flight 5th place?

    You say he is a decent manager, which can’t be in doubt, and is doing his best. If this is his best how can he also be a decent manager?

    Yes, as I said this morning, Ashley has his faults and the squad is short in certain areas, but it is also far better than it has shown this season, and in particular this last 4 months.

    I can’t quite understand how people can excuse Pardew’s obvious failings by saying his boss is crap. Yeah, Ashley is a huge problem, but that does not absolve Pardew of blame for the obvious on field failings and the inability to set up a side to compete in games week in week out.

  • 60 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    “…This was your mistake with the master plan
    With all the critique you take, you can hardly stand
    After all is said and done
    Are you still having fun?”

  • 61 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Ian,
    It indicates we have a loyal fan base, but that doesn’t necessarily reflect on anything else. It doesn’t mean the football is good, or people like the owner or manager. It means they are loyal to their club.

  • 62 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Ian…are you still having fun mate? ;)

  • 63 toon kk // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Our club has fallen apart, over rated players wanting out, poor training staff, unfit players thinking they’re on holiday, a manager who clearly is out of his depth, fans have had enough and of course MA who can only count money and wants SD advertised.
    Bit of a mess really!

  • 64 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Lilongwe…read your reply this morning…very good post mate :)

  • 65 mindshaft // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    It’s a sad state of affairs when Sunderland getting hammered and hopefully relegated is the highlight of my footy weekend
    I can’t even be arsed to slag off pardew anymore

  • 66 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 12, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    “…You don’t know what it is you’ve done
    Just to show that you’re having fun

    I can set you straight if you let me stay
    I hope i’m not too late
    No you won’t regret it
    I can show you the way
    And make you happy today

    Yes, you know when you’ve been defeated
    You don’t care and you thank no one

    But are you still having fun?…Cause I am sure as hell not :(

  • 67 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    Last 15 league games played; We have lost 11, drawn 1, and won only 4 – 2 of those in the 94th minute. We have not scored in 11 of those, conceded 3 or more in 6 of them

    Martin O’Neill’s last 15 as Sunderland manager last year when they were in free fall; Lost 8, drew 3 won 4. Scored in all but 4, conceded 3 or more twice.

    Is Newcastle’s current squad worse than the Sunderland squad that just stayed up last year?

  • 68 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    Jesper,
    Cheers mate.

  • 69 Ian Toon // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    jesper- I sure am. I always travel with optimism and endeavour – not solely in regard to following the Toon. Best regards.

    Lilongwe – The voice of reason. I agree with you absolutely. I always read your global perspective posts as they give a balanced view without an apparent agenda. Well that’s my perspective. I hope to briefly engage with Pardew after the game which will give me the opportunity to ask him whether he realistically believes that Ashley will dig deep to replenish our starting team and squad. He has not been communicative of late!

  • 70 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    @Mag52

    it’s people like you who keep so called managers like Pardew at clubs.

    Pardew is the worse manager Newcastle have ever had and his records don’t lie, so what if he’s not getting backed by MA have you seen our squad?

    any other manager could work wonders with a squad like ours.

    tell me numb nuts what manager would use a defensive style tactic with flair, attacking players?

    tell me numb nuts what manager would use a 4-4-2 & 4-2-3-1 with no wingers?

    tell me numb nuts what makes you think Pardew is a decent manager ??????????

  • 71 mindcompressor // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    protect us alan from watching your antifootball today. say to armstrong to keep eyes closed like in riders of the lost arc – horrible things are going to happen :)

    his masterplan about recurring us on winning path – man maybe remy will be ready and so something like in game against villa – collapsed. another disaster is coming today.

    but still… i will be watching and keep the faith. it is very sad about me.

  • 72 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    also before anyone starts with win% try looking at the years other manager have been in control 1 maybe 2 years whilst Pardew has been here for over 3 years now.

    can anyone clarify Pardew’s win%? I think it’s between 35-40% but I’m not sure

  • 73 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    I’m expecting Stoke to win 2-0 today, get your bets on guys lol

  • 74 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Newcastle_United_F.C._managers

    read it and weep Pardew lovers, Pardew has the worse records compare to any other long serving Newcastle managers

  • 75 Toon Tang // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    Im also ITK about why pards has to bring strolla on at the end of every game… its because his legs joints completely seize up and its written into pards’ contract that he has to carry him out of SJP on his back.

    Pards struggles with the weight, therefore strolla gets gametime

  • 76 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    if pardew deserves this much of the blame then

    who cares about cabella and any other striker or midfielder, going by what so many are saying on this blog it’s quite simple, ashley has did fine with transfers, basically it is pardew who is at fault for everything.

    basically he is the reason we don’t get goals as he has ruined the great goal scorers called shola cisse and de jong.

    it doesn’t end their he is the reason we don’t create chances not ashley, pardew has ruined the world class wingers jonas HBA marvo and obatan he also has ruined our defence as we should have 4 quality CB 3 quality Fb.

    so ashley you have did great and this squad should be fighting for 4th place

    alan shearer was our manager for the last 8 games of that season we got relegated. If motivation was so easy their is no way we would have been relegated that season when shearer was put in charge fact. Also just because a striker has a great record at his previous club it does not mean you can expect him to be the same at his new club, even with great managers ie torres morineo. If i was playing at a club which in 3 of the last 4 transfer windows has only brought 3 player in “2 being loans” well my only real interest now is the money i get because i know this owner will not spend money, i know we will not see a strong team.

  • 77 Mister Tuff // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    I see NUST have made an application to the City Council under the Freedom of Information Act to find out who has requested information/sought guidance from a planning perspective in respect of the land adjacent to the Gallowgate end.
    Whilst I wholeheartedly support their quest for information – I will be highly surprised if they get anything relevant back. I think that information requested may be outside the realms of information that can be disclosed under the FOI. However, it could depend on what the Council are prepared to disclose. I suggest NUST may draw a blank however.

  • 78 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    Pardews idea of the next level is avoiding relegation, sack him!

  • 79 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 12:59 PM

    Cisse has to play today Stoke are his favourite club for goals.

  • 80 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM

    The last three games 11 goals conceded and no goals scored and Pardew is still in a job.

  • 81 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:06 PM

    thats my one and only post because their shouldn’t really be any arguements today as this was the week which saw 96 people die in footballs biggest disaster.

  • 82 yo-yo // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    I can hear the wolves howling at the smell of managerial blood getting louder and louder.

    Been like that on here for some time now. All day, every day, almost every thread. I’m amazed some people have so much time on their hands they can just repeat the same stuff, day after day, week after week, month after month – with absolutely no effect at all. Won’t change anything at all. Doesn’t even satisfy ‘get it off yer chest’ syndrome or it wouldn’t get endlessly repeated.

    Managers are always the fall guys. Easier to get rid of than a duff owner (unfortunately). Does it change anything ? Naw, not after the ‘new manager honeymoon period’ ends. Unless the owner brings in a serious upgrade. Is Mash going to do that ? Naw.

    Nothing like an easy target to aim at. Life is much more complicated than scapegoating. Fr’ instance … Why have we had a sub-standard defence for most of the last ten years ? Why has our youth development mostly failed to bring talent through into the first team ?

    And the really funny thing is that after all these endlessly repetitive slagging posts about Pardew and his somewhat limited managerial abilites we get the wonderful quote from Einstein commenting on his tactical limitations.

    “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

    Well wolves – the same applies to you. You’ve been ‘pardewed’

    We follow the team not the regime.
    We know we might get an occasional stunning performance. Just not when.
    We hope for something better but know it is unlikely.
    We can dream about the accidental sigings of real quality players.
    A lot of us boycott any thing connected with Sports Direct on principle.
    A small number of us are involved with active campaigns – probably more in hope than anticipation but at least doing something.

    I don’t think there are any easy answers – sacking Pardew certainly won’t be one of them without major investment in the playing and coaching side and a total change in management style.

    Rant over

  • 83 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM

    Why doesn’t Pardew direct his concerns about future funding to Ashley instead of whinging on camera, he’s been here for 4 seasons and the club is stagnating due to pardews lack of knowledge.

  • 84 Ancientcoptic // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:18 PM

    I wonder if Steven Taylor may be drafted into the side today. With the amount of goals we are shipping, there is bound to be a reshuffle.

    The one thing I do not want to see today is Adam Armstrong thrown on with 4 minutes left on the clock, what is the point of running up his app stats with no chance of putting goals against them. Armstrong needs 15 minutes minimum; otherwise, just leave him on the bench. I personally think it is a bit condescending to give a player all of 5 minutes game time.

    It would be a nice surprise to see Marveaux in the line-up… I am not holding out much hope though.

  • 85 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    Once they settle for midtable mediocrity relegation is usually the outcome and under Pardew that’s a certainty.

  • 86 BuckLuck // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:29 PM

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.

    Under Pardew we doesn’t deserve one single technical player. They would ruin their career playing under this awful defensive philosophy, and it’s not worth it.

    Good players should stay away from Newcastle as it stands now.

  • 87 toon kk // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM

    Half our squad and Pardew want sacking they’re not upto the job.

  • 88 Ciaran // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM

    Yo-yo

    A fair comment really. Hard to argue with it.

  • 89 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    I actually hope we get beat today which is something I never even did under Souness. I think Pardew is worse than Souness. At least Souness played crap 442 90′s football nearer the 90s. It wasn’t quite so out of date back then.

  • 90 Mag52 // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    Lilongwe.
    It’s all very well quoting statistics for the last fifteen matches of the season.What about those for the first fifteen when something must have been going right – weren’t we in fifth position in the lead up to Christmas? Oh but of course we had a lot of luck in those games didn’t we. Chelsea and Man.U had off days didn’t they. The refs. were giving us all the decisions weren’t they.
    As for comparing Pardew with Martin O’Neill, even I wouldn’t go that far. I think AP would feel quite flattered.
    As you rightly point out even a manager of his ability can find his team in free fall during a season. As far as the relative strengths of the teams go, NUFC might just have the edge, but we are in the top half of the division with nothing whatsoever to play for.

  • 91 toon kk // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    The sad thing if MA ever saw sense and showed Pards the door he wouldn’t look for a quality manager to replace him some other clueless yes man would carry on where Pards left off.

  • 92 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    Season’s targets just about guaranteed by Christmas. No repeat of last season’s scares. And all on a budget.
    Is there any reason to believe that Pardew’s stock with Ashley is anything other than very high?

  • 93 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:53 PM

    took kk

    only consolation i guess is very few are as unlikeable, egotistic and slimy as pardew

  • 94 North Atlantic Magpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:54 PM

    Saylor, Gosling and Shola will all start today, but there’s no room for Ben Arfa beacause of a moody manager called Alan Pardew.

  • 95 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    Mag 52

    what’s the point having someone who is more consistently bad than he is occasionally good and who can go on spectacular losing streaks at the drop of a hat.

  • 96 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 1:59 PM

    ancientcoptic

    yeah saylor will really keep the score down ….not !!!

  • 97 toon kk // Apr 12, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    Watching Qpr v For game on sky, we couldn’t cope with either of these teams at the moment.

  • 98 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 2:02 PM

    This odd thing persists among the unhappy campers that they rarely blame both Ashley AND Pardew.
    One camp believes Ashley’s tragic flaw is that he is unable to see that Pardew is not a very good manager.
    The other holds that Pardew has not been backed, and deserves sympathy and understanding for that.
    The notion endures that one man or the other is in a hostage situation.
    How very useful to the club.
    It is rather like watching the Alcoholics telling the Smokers they need to mend their habits.
    All the evidence suggests these two men are, and always have been, an alliance of like minds.
    They are the chief, perhaps the only, beneficiaries of the project as it now stands.
    No-one will be “seeing the error of their ways.”

  • 99 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 12, 2014 at 2:08 PM

    Pardew has won 38% & lost 39%
    Souness won 43% & lost 35%
    Roeder won 46% & only lost 21%
    And Roeder had the worst injuries ever (Woodgate, Dyer etc), had no money to spend. Almost a big a mistake to sack him as it was to sack Robson.

  • 100 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    yo yo

    No one is forcing you to read complaints from many on here about the manager

    The fact there are so many should surely tell you something and we have every right to voice our dissatisfaction at the unsackabe one

    With the same squad martinez and others would do considerably better and provide a much better spectacle to watch.

    Granted, sometimes the owner is to blame, 9 times out of 10 it is the manager.

    if it was just here that Pardew had such a dismal record that’s one thing but look at the guy’s whole career.

    No, complaining may not change anything but for some that’s all we have left as all hope has long been extinguished.

  • 101 mattnufc // Apr 12, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    Yay Shola and Gosling over Ben Arfa.

  • 102 Rotonda heights // Apr 12, 2014 at 2:12 PM

    like watching the Alcoholics telling the Smokers they need to mend their habits.

    Excellent analogy

  • 103 Mag52 // Apr 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    Rotonda@100
    “Nine times out of ten it’s the manager to blame”, not the owner.
    If you were asked to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear I suppose you could then.
    Neither can a manager landed with a poor to average squad. The buck must always stop at the top. He, and he alone has the power to revitalize this club, but I’m not holding my breath.




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