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Newcastle Fans Deserve Better Than This

5:35 pm, Saturday, April 12th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 181 Comments

It was telling that last week 77% of fans in our poll thought we’d lose at home against Manchester United, and that turned out to be true when we were hammered 4-0, and this week it was 76% of fans through we’d lose – and we did – for the fourth games in a row – this time at Stoke City.

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And Newcastle haven’t scored in those four games and we’ve conceded 12 goals – and it’s been a nightmare for the fans.

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But on the bright side (well kind of), we only conceded one goal today against an ordinary looking Stoke City side.

But it was a sloppy goal to concede after 42 minutes, as a cross come shot eluded the Newcastle goalkeeper Tim Krul, and it ended up in the top right hand corner of the net.

The scorer – Erik Pieters – at one time a Newcastle target, could only laugh – which says he meant it to be a cross.

But one goal was enough – as it’s been in the last four games for Newcastle to lose, and now we have gone 12 league games of the last 16 without scoring and picked up only 13 points.

This is all too bad to be true – but it’s what’s happening – and we’ve now lost 11 of the last 16 league games and failed to score in 12 of them.

It will be interesting to see what Alan Pardew says after the fourth pathetic performance in a row, when we have also failed to score, and Stoke were only a mediocre side today.

But the Potters were still better than Newcastle – and it’s clear that Alan Pardew just cannot motivate his players.

Newcastle United fans deserve better than these woeful performances on the pitch this year.

It’s just not good enough – and that’s the truth.

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181 responses so far ↓

  • 1 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:37 PM

    tsunki so who next ffs!??

    jesus if people can’t see that there isn’t gonna be a better manager come in while ashley is still here then god help us!

    who’s the next one who is gonna put up with not signing any players after desperatley needed
    or selling our best players or getting players that we don’t really need them because we need players in other positions?

    oh and also spout the ashley bullshit?

    that banner and many many more of them should say ASHLEY OUT! simple as that!

  • 2 TurkishFan101 // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    ToonKing for you:

    toonking

    Clearly, clearly you have a massive problem is distincting away what the problems are in our club on the pitch, training ground and off the pitch with the owner.

    On the pitch and training ground is the responsibility of the manager, we have players which are still here that finished in the season that was a miracle (5th in the league). The same players are now underperforming and we have even added some raw talent from the french league which one time Mbiwa captain at Montpellier where he won the league and was known as one of the worlds youngest potential and best center backs at the time, comes here, he gets played out of position and had to be forced on due to steven taylor getting injured.

    Ben Arfa our most creative player along side Marveaux which was once again no where near seen on the bench or the stadium are getting constantly bad press and blames from Pardew.

    Our youngest prospect Adam Armstrong gets played out of position when a day before Alan Pardew said he wouldnt play youngsters as it would ruin there potential and morale, well its too late for that ParTw@t.

    The formation was shown as a 3-5-2, to make it seem to the fans that Pardew was trying a new attacking formation. It was the exact opposite, there was 2 wing backs, therefore its a 5-3-2 all ultra defence negative hoofball.

    Every time they came attacking at us we had our whole squad in the box to defend.

    The manager is the man responsible to motivate, train, work on weaknesses, set pieces, movement, discipline, basically everything you see on pitch it was the manager is responisble for, most importantly that includes MOTIVATION.

    A manager that admits he cannot motivate players is the instance of when he should sack or resign to save his dignity.

    You can tell us, no need to be afraid. Is Pardew paying you from his casino money to protect and be his PR,PA buddy?

    toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    “jesper
    nothing is going to ever change my opinion on pardew.

    when managers are fcuken sacked they are sacked because the owner has paid the money in transfer windows to bring players.

    what managers don’t deserve the fcuken sack for is when the owner has left us with players like shola ameobi saylor obatan marvo de jong and cisse as the attackers”

    Double deluded guy.

    No one is forcing ParTw@t to pick Shola Ameobi and drop our creative players and best defenders like Mbiwa, Haidara, Marveaux, Ben Arfa and even De Jong if he h
    ad a good manager that could play to his strengths.

    I love how you always single out Cisse, was he not the reason we came 5th 2 seasons ago no? or are you going to say it was the work of Pardew? or is it luck?

    So now you go blaming Cisse cause he gets next to nothing created cause the tactics are so negative and we don’t press and use attacking reinforcements?

    I would also like to remind you, when Cabaye was so called “depressed” Marveaux did a brilliant job on saving us from relegation with his crucial assists but what does he get this season? gets dropped so Cabaye doesnt strop and force hes way out of NUFC to Arsenal at that period but he ended up at PSG now.

    Open up your deluded-dusted out eyes, stop being a PR/PA buddy for PardTw@t.

    oonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:32 PM

    “lesh it not pardew they are p1ssed off with it’s that fcuken owner.

    owners are the ones who sell players not managers

    owners are the ones who buy players not managers.

    If we are giving ashley so much stick for the greed and lack of spending in the transfer windows well why the fcuk are players not thinking the same?”

    “lesh it not pardew they are p1ssed off with it’s that fcuken owner.”

    Are you speaking out of your own arse? I dont see others blaming Mike Ashley to an extent cause, theres one person responsible for this and thats Pardew.

    Good job Mike Ashley does not trust him with this fund, he would end up buying the whole West Ham team for hoofing it back out to the 17th century.

    Speak for yourself, you are either a troll or Pardew’s best friend, carry on doing your PR/PA assistance for this deluded egoistic cockney.

  • 3 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:41 PM

    mose
    if cisse was such a fcuken decent player tell me why the fcuk he couldn’t get back inside last season? does pardew control his legs?

    If HBA was such a great player why the fcuk did he have bust ups with so many fcuken managers of his previous teams?
    what other selfish bast@rds are great players.

    when you have got obatan and jonas as fcuking subs then why should marvo be the best fcuken creative player ?
    is carroll scored lots more goals compared to the rest of the strikers we had at the time does that make him a quality striker? if the answer is no then why should marvo be any different?

  • 4 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:41 PM

    ruddy not at all but it shows that hardened supporters who have watched the toon for probably double there life times aren’t doing the same!

  • 5 croftus5678 // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:42 PM

    we did not look like we wanted to win tbh !

    anita was the only one who wanted the win
    gosling was the only one who wanted to score
    mbiwa was the only one wih a point to prove when he came on and i suppose armstrong can be excused for being inexperianced.

    tiote/sissoko/anita/mbiwa to keep the res i couldnt care less tbh inc krull who i think is over rated.

  • 6 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:42 PM

    Pardew came up with two brilliant pieces of tactical nouse again today :

    1) Plays Armstrong (a young inexperienced forward) out of his natural position on the right wing .

    2) . Basically uses Willo as a makeshift striker for the last 10 minutes .

    Just when I think he can’t do any worse he surprises me yet again .

  • 7 davetoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:43 PM

    ahh sh!t, the 40 articles per minute section…. :)

    ——————-

    I’m still trying to work out how we went 11 games unbeaten in ’11/12 with what on paper looks a worse team than what we have now.

    its amazing what belief and lack of belief does to a team.

    Look at Spurs this season after spending £120 on players. and then theres Arsenal’s last 10 games

  • 8 TurkishFan101 // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:43 PM

    manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:37 PM

    “tsunki so who next ffs!??

    jesus if people can’t see that there isn’t gonna be a better manager come in while ashley is still here then god help us!

    who’s the next one who is gonna put up with not signing any players after desperatley needed
    or selling our best players or getting players that we don’t really need them because we need players in other positions?

    oh and also spout the ashley bullshit?

    that banner and many many more of them should say ASHLEY OUT! simple as that!”

    Well done, I applaud you. When Mike Ashley sees that banner he will think” Oh my heart hurts, I better get away from this club as clearly the fans hurt me”. You really think he will think that??

    He will oppositely say “deluded fans, they pay for the season tickets and it comes to my pocket and they think a banner will move me out from earning millions from this club? bunch of twats”.

    I don’t know what’s wrong with fans like you and toonking, you need to get a brain scan.

    What sounds logical, read it over in your mind and think it through first before posting.

    You act like mangers are extinct and rare to find in the planet, not every quality manager demands high wages and big transfer kitty’s, get that in your small mind of yours.

  • 9 andrew84 // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    toonking

    The hallmark of a good manager is the ability to get average players to play well.

    Pardew does the opposite – he gets average performances out of players that, on paper, are top-6 calibre.

    The man’s a dinosaur.

  • 10 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    Ciaran,

    Earlier today I smiled off a rather jejune notion of yours that I need your help with the punchline of my own jokes.
    An intervention that made me look just as superior as you.
    So don’t push this “you are patronizing me” line.
    I am not.

  • 11 davetoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    @turkish I do agree that not being able to motivate players should be grounds for sacking.

  • 12 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    To the

    “never get anyone better than Pardew under Ashley brigade”

    So what else do we do then ? , just lie back and take it . I don’t think so .

  • 13 Ciaran // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    Manx

    No it doesn’t show that at all. The kid was holding it, doesn’t mean he made it. Doesn’t mean the older people around him don’t agree with him.

    You’ve taken the fact that a kid was holding the ‘Pardew Out’ banner and attached a meaning to that where none such meaning exists, or at least there is no proof of the meaning you’ve attached to it.

  • 14 lochinvar // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:48 PM

    Pardew on the radio just now and blamed the local press for the problems at the club and the wind for the defeat ! Is there no end to the drivel.
    Is the wind not an act of god and can I claim my money back on my insurance ?
    Ashley just made £200 million out of selling part of Sports Direct hopefully to buy and invest in Rangers and then the ugly duckling can get out of toon. Who we get instead I don’t know but I live in hope.

  • 15 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:48 PM

    Manx,

    Ciaran is right. That was a rank slur.
    I wouldn’t want those guys at my front door demanding a retraction.
    And neither would you.

  • 16 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM

    Pardew would blame his daughter if it meant him escaping criticism.

    The guy is a slime ball .

  • 17 TurkishFan101 // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:51 PM

    Continue supporting Pardew Manx and toonking also any other hiding fans out there.

    Post-match quotes:

    Pardew :”It was a fluke goal, the wind caught hold of it. We should have had a penalty.”

    Pardew on fans:”Four defeats as Newcastle manager with 10 senior players is a difficult hold to fill. Their frustrations boiled over.”

    Pardew: “Four defeats for Newcastle is going to bring its own pressure. I don’t think the local press have helped.”

    REALLY???

  • 18 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:51 PM

    The Sunday Sun are going to crucify Pardew tomorrow after those comments .

  • 19 Ciaran // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:51 PM

    BandB

    Well you were patronising, and deliberately so. This has the makings of a ‘mountain out of a molehill’ scenario, but I can hold my ground if you want to dig deeper into a dispute.

    Your call.

  • 20 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    Let the moaning begin

    Right that’s it no one is coming on welshgeordie train

    To many moaners on this blog

  • 21 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    turkish well go on then mr fuskin superior!!
    who’s this manager then?
    and forget foreign ones no chance!
    oh and forget ambitious ones too no chance!
    oh and forget ones that have done well in the prem no chance
    but go on tell us all these great managers that will work under ashley mr fuskin know it all!?

  • 22 Ciaran // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    BandB

    Need help explaining that one?

  • 23 NUFCarter // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:53 PM

    At least the fans have finally made their opinion known to Pardew today with the chants and banners at the Brittania

  • 24 IITianToon // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:53 PM

    Mind you 3-5-2 was not a bad idea to start with I felt.

    Logic of putting Armstrong on RW: He simply does not trust Ben Arfa on the wings, but he has to put him on so hwat does he do? :D

    Why could he not simply play Ben Arfa as the most advance of the midfield 5 with Cisse and Arma as the two upfront.
    I have always managed to find reasons as to why Pardew makes certain decisions, but those are the deciisions of a fool and scared manager!

  • 25 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    Don’t forget ladies we are still in the top half

  • 26 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    Pardew’s excuses were nothing short of pathetic. He complains about having 10 professionals out, yet he could have had a forward 3 of Ben Arfa Cisse and Gouffran and the team is hardly different at all.

    He plays Shola and leaves our most creative player Ben Arfa on the bench til late on. Marveaux who can play a final ball is nowhere to be seen.

    Says he doesn’t want to harm the young players, yet plays another 17 year old, like Campbell out of position.

    He’s full of it. The guy is a joke.

  • 27 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    Its become that bad under Pardew I am actually just pleased we didn’t concede more than 2 goals .

    Is he in the top 3 worst NUFC managers ever ? .

  • 28 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    Hearing Pardew say the local paper stirring up the problems is a joke as well. The man is cringeworthy with his slimey and pathetic excuses.

  • 29 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    Manxpie

    You say noone better will come.

    At this rate their is no one worse.

  • 30 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    well then fcuken turkish or should i say ASHLEY LOVER

    tell me what was wrong with starting ameobi as forward when he is the 2nd best striker we have got

    tell me why obatan and jonas we always getting the critism they get when they ARE the only 2 wingers we have.

    tell me another team who will not spend much money if any money for 3 of the last 4 transfer windows and still consistantly get top4

    tell me why stoke swansea middlesboro and fulham couldn’t get back into europe when they didn’t spend money.

    also how do we fcuken know that everton are not this season just getting the same fcuken luck we got when we finished 5th?

  • 31 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    When Kinnear left, I pointed out (to some hooting) that Pardew was now in the spotlight.
    He could no longer take sly digs at Kinnear, but would have to address his observations directly to his boss.
    I imagined that instead, he would scapegoat certain players, and later, the fans.
    Today Pardew attempted to put out a team he thought would battle for him. A group of players who’s future on the gravy train is tied to his. They fought harder than the disaffected French contingent might. But their best wasn’t anything like good enough. Pardew has polarized his dressing room out of sheer paranoia.
    None of that means a thing to his boss. And that’s all that counts.

  • 32 davis_toons // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM

    We need an attacking manager. More technically proven.

  • 33 croftus5678 // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM

    @12 big pappa

    i’m one of those that dont think we can get better imo but i dont claim to hold all the answers and could well be wrong as i cant see the future.

    its a gamble do we trade manager and risk failure do we keep and more than likely accept being mid table or we will be able to attract a manager who would work under the conditions pardew does ? somehow i doubt there is such a manager apart from an unknown.

    imo pards plays good football with his best starting 11 but when 1 or 2 ect ect of that first 11 are out he does not have a clue what to do and just bundles names and formations on a sheet and prays for the best.

    same with motivation ! he cant motivate to great effect but the players should do this themselves imo with a manager getting the last 10% out of them.

    when ashley leaves pards will leave and i’m not saying we will be better as a new set up could make us worse off but its the only way we will change imo.

  • 34 Ancientcoptic // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM

    If Pardew does go, I think the club should bring in a Head Coach and name the role as such.

    There is nothing manager about what Pardew does, he has zero say in transfers.

    If we bring in a head coach, the role will be clearly defined. We cannot attempt to recruit a manager, and not offer a managers role.

    There has got to plenty of top coaches out there, willing to accept 1+ million a year, and offered the chance to make a name for themselves. We are still a big club playing in richest/most televised league in the world.

  • 35 Ciaran // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:00 PM

    Anyway, I always prefer to voice my opinion when I feel disrespected or insulted whereas it appears others want to deal with the same situation in a more underhand manner and present a guise of superiority behind their big words.

    I’ve made my point very clear, and don’t put up with disrespect, even from those I admire and look up to.

    On that note, I’m calling time on my involvement this evening, don’t want to exacerbate what is a rather petty situation.

  • 36 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:01 PM

    Ciaran,

    I don’t think I did too badly out of us being antagonists in a previous life.
    I don’t enjoy blog feuds. They bore me.
    But for you, I will take up the gauntlet.
    If you like :)

  • 37 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:01 PM

    That game summed up Teflon Als Newcastle United career, three centre halves and he subs Gosling who was the only attacking threat. That’s one goal scored in the last five games.

  • 38 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:02 PM

    He’s in the worst top 3 nufc managers ever

    Yeah because the previous managers got newcastle into Europe didn’t they

    Not

  • 39 Dennis Twice // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:02 PM

    Toonkid….P is the one who kept Macherano and Tevez out….now The Great Ben Arfa!!! …our one and only

  • 40 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    Newcastle United have scored only 9 goals since January the 1st, the worst in the premier league. Sack Pardew!

  • 41 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    croftus5678

    said it just like i am saying it.
    agree with it all.

  • 42 TurkishFan101 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    manxpie

    Diego Simeone: £2.09m

    Lucian Favre – £1.65m

    Michael Laudrup – £500,000

    Jurgen Klopp – £3m

    Marcelo Bielsa – £2.5m

    They are worked/work under similar conditions as Pardew and have to constantly sell there best players for big money.

  • 43 Mister Tuff // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    Ciaran – I see you posted about the FOI request from NUST to the City Council. I spotted this request earlier on, on another site and did a short post.
    The gist was that whilst I agree with NUST trying to get as much information, I suspect the application will fail as the information requested is potentially not disclosable. Whilst the council could provide the information, I think that they could justifiably refuse it on several fronts. One could be “prejudcial to commercial interests” -which is not disclosable. There are other exemptions to disclosure
    but I suppose we’ll just have to wait and see what the councils response is.

  • 44 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    did you actually see it ruddy?

    there were 5 kids holding it and they were all very nervously getting it up and laughing
    how many other banners were there?
    there was 3000 fans there

    so my point stands if that is the full feeling of fans why is it only a bunch of kids showing it?

    bandb so why is that a rank opinion?

  • 45 cyprus // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:05 PM

    So, once more the confusion on who should go, who to blame. You want a long term goal, talk of a new owner, there just aren’t too many billionaires crazy enough to take on a ‘wee’ NE high maintenance club. (In fact, it would appear, THERE AREN’T ANY).

    Now, you want short term, this manager must go, NOW. There aren’t any decent managers who would want to work for NUFC, you say. You kidding.

  • 46 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:05 PM

    Manxpie jail tskunki wolfshead are the biggest idiots on here!

  • 47 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    Since January we are the worst side in the Premier league! Taxi for Pardew!

  • 48 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:07 PM

    @ King

    Ameobi second best striker ? . What have you been smoking ? .

    Cisse,Gouffran,Remy and probably Armstrong are all better than him FFS .

  • 49 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    mag
    April 12, 2014
    Manxpie jail tskunki wolfshead are the biggest idiots on here!

    Ha ha well said mag

  • 50 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    @ manx

    Did you see the chronicle poll the other day about Pardew as NUFC manager ? .

    Because I seem to remember it was something like 80% want the Muppet gone . Hardly the minority .

  • 51 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Any muppet who still believes Teflon Pardew is a premier league manager should be laughed at!

  • 52 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    manxpie,

    Only because you don’t know Manx. You are assuming and projecting.
    Which isn’t normally your style.
    You saw what you saw. Fair enough. I don’t want to triangulate with Ruddy and yourself, so I will go and watch Ant and Dec or something.

  • 53 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    Manxpie is a total tool and doesn’t know anything about football!

  • 54 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    turkish none of them are ever ever ever ever ever ever gonna be employed by ashley but keep dreaming fella
    and book that brain scan!

  • 55 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    Why I have to suffer the deluded Teflon Pardew fools!

  • 56 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    BPC

    remy is out injured mate so no he doesn’t count

    gouffran could be striker but then what, do we play obatan or jonas as winger knowing we have got no other wingers?
    we need someone to play out wide otherwise we are left with a FB covering a full length of the pitch which means we get a very tired player.

    so it’s either gouffranor and HBA being out of position or it’s jonas and obatan in position

    read the full post before making statements

    if you

  • 57 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:13 PM

    Manxpie would fail a brain scan in between his ears is tomato soup.

  • 58 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    You alright this evening mag

  • 59 TurkishFan101 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    “well then fcuken turkish or should i say ASHLEY LOVER

    tell me what was wrong with starting ameobi as forward when he is the 2nd best striker we have got

    tell me why obatan and jonas we always getting the critism they get when they ARE the only 2 wingers we have.

    tell me another team who will not spend much money if any money for 3 of the last 4 transfer windows and still consistantly get top4

    tell me why stoke swansea middlesboro and fulham couldn’t get back into europe when they didn’t spend money.

    also how do we fcuken know that everton are not this season just getting the same fcuken luck we got when we finished 5th?”

    Firstly, when we have the likes of Ben Arfa that can play as second striker, De Jong, Adam Armstrong has nothing to lose and all to gain. Why Shola Ameobi? you love him as much as Pardew does, poor deluded guy.

    Secondly, Ben Arfa is a winger, so is Marveaux when he came here but he didnt get the runs he needed to adapt and kept getting dropped when his favourites were played Jonas.

    What season are we talking about here? was not you not praising Pardew for finishing us 5th in the season? Gouffran is a wide player as well, so is Sissoko thanks to Pardew… although he played a few games in his old club but does not mean that is his distinct natural position.

    “tell me another team who will not spend much money if any money for 3 of the last 4 transfer windows and still consistantly get top4″

    What are you talking about? are you in dreamland with your buddy Pardew? deluded …..

    “tell me why stoke swansea middlesboro and fulham couldn’t get back into europe when they didn’t spend money.”

    WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH NEWCASTLE UNITED.

    We are NUFC they are other clubs, we are a one club one city where the fans pump the blood every second, every moment of life, you idiot.

    Why did we not spend you say? Mike Ashley thought if he could finish 5th in the season with those players, why buy more players if he can make the most of them?

    Well it seemed the complete opposite and he found out it was pure luck and was forced to spend in January window in order to save us from getting relegated and we only just, ONLY JUST managed it due to Marveaux assists and Cisse’s goals. While Cabaye was stropping off.

    Martinez is years apart from Pardew, tactically, as a man, as an individual. He managed a very averaged weak team in Wigan and got the FA CUP with them, and tried his utter best to save them from relegation but he failed in honour,

    He is miles ahead millions of miles ahead of Pardew at every aspect.

    When Lukaku was injured he didnt give up and just say “Lets just try to keep teams away and make them draw with us” NO, he kept on and pushed forward playing very average players and now he is in contention for champions league and will be the manager of the season if he achieves this with such a average Everton side.

    Martinez won the FA cup, what did Pardew win?

    Come on spit it out.

  • 60 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    BPC

    RUN THAT POLL AGAIN TODAY AND IT WILL BE 90%

    manx will come back and tell you it’s only 12 year olds that are voting

    you can not reason with him or toonking and a few others , I have gave up,

    I’m just waiting for pardew to throw lee charnly under the bus when we don’t get many players in the summer,

  • 61 mag // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    Welshgeordie terrific! Manxpie is a moron along with tskunki wolfshead and the jail cretin.

  • 62 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:18 PM

    manx I’d take ole gunner , laudrup , poyet

    they would come

  • 63 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:18 PM

    bpc how many people voted?

    just askin because 52000 fans turn up week after week and there has been no such banners or chants!

    bandb i ain’t assuming anything i posted what i saw it is others like yourself that are assuming what i meant

    the fact is its 1 banner in a crowd of 3000 toon fans and it was some giggling teenagers doing it

  • 64 TurkishFan101 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    “turkish none of them are ever ever ever ever ever ever gonna be employed by ashley but keep dreaming fella
    and book that brain scan!”

    I dont think you brain functions properly, look at the situations all of those managers played in and are still in. Some are worst off Pardew and they get near enough same wages as him as well.

    You are the brain damaged one if you cannot function and develop an output of what that means. As long as Mike Ashley can find a good bargain that is a really good manager that can get the best out of players and sell them for more at a short amount of time, this will increase the amount NUFC make, invest more in return and also make it a club that is financially stable as much as a good figure head for other clubs.

  • 65 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    @ manx

    Come off it man FFS .

    So you expect every fan that doesn’t want Pardew in charge to hold a flag or chant all game ? . Most people are so fed up they don’t even bother going to St.James’ .

    He is un-defendable

  • 66 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    you lot all who bash pardew are as bad as pardew is with his excuses yourself.

    you say he plays HBA gouffran and sissoko out of position as wingers then you say that obatan and jonas are rubbish when they are in fact the only true wingers we have.

    you say pardew is rubbish when he chooses not to play armstrong in matches, then you give him critism for playing dummett in matches and saying dummet is rubbish. they are both youngster.

    you say that pardew should be sacked then you say that once the new manager comes in we should bring in lots of new players. well pardew has not had that so why should any decent manager be given the chance of it.

    you say pardews first season in charge managing to finish 5th was all down to luck. then you saying martinez first season at everton where he is looking likely to finish 4th or 5th is skill. why can’t that be luck because really if arsenal didn’t have the bad slip up then 5th would be his best option and if united and spurs were not under new management he might not even have got europe.

  • 67 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    haha !!!

    “I’d take ole gunner , laudrup , poyet”

    hahahahaha!

  • 68 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    manx

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-local-press-not-6982537

    read it

  • 69 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Manxpie,

    Whether Ashley or Pardew are popular or unpopular will come out in the wash.
    I don’t think we are swaying too many opinions here.
    Or perhaps you think you are?

  • 70 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    And for the people saying “we need wingers that defend” .

    We already have Anita & Tiote playing as DM’s so they should be helping to cover .

  • 71 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    I have got a funny feeling Wigan are going to win this match

  • 72 NUFCarter // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    Ole gunner and Gus poyet? No way!

  • 73 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    I see Ciaran is defending himself again, bigging himself up again and running again. I don’t know what it was about, but nothing changes. Was it Lesh who said about him paranoia sitting nicely with narcissism? Anyway, enough of the crystal maze, let me post about football.

  • 74 TurkishFan101 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    “you say pardews first season in charge managing to finish 5th was all down to luck”

    You have no clue kid what is going on at St James Park or the current atmosphere that surrounds it.

    Pardew did not finish 5th in the first season, it was the second season.

  • 75 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    bpc so its all right for you to say a poll of god knows who is proof but not for me to state the fact that 52000 people actually paying to watch the team is not on?

    come on like!

  • 76 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    I know he is hated by most NUFC fans (including me) but Mcmanamon is just the kind of direct winger we need .

  • 77 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    I just want to check something. Has the world come to an end?

  • 78 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM

    manx

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/poll-reveals-86-nufc-fans-6932662

    read it

  • 79 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    turkish
    excuse me but how many fcuken times do people slate pardew saying he plays HBA out of position on the wing. the same for marvo.

    pardew got newcastle to a europa league quarter final last season.

    on fcuken martinez we shall see how fcuken good he really is when everton are actually in the europa league next fcuken season.

  • 80 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:28 PM

    Would you believe it Wigan have just scored

  • 81 Beattie25 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    I see manxpie is still throwing one off over Pardew.

    Goodbye again.

  • 82 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    turkish nah fella it is you who can’t understand that none of them managers would work under ashley not 1!!!

    do you think that 1 of them would stand up to the press after another shocking transfer window?

  • 83 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    Blacklie,

    Enjoy

    Ant and Dec must be on soon.

  • 84 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    carter

    why not?

    both came into struggling teams

    Martinez got relegated last season and now look at him at Everton ,

    Brendan Rodgers was sacked by reading in 2009 now he is on the berg of winning the PL

    Ole won back to back titles here with an un fancied club, playing good football

    don’t judge them on where they are now, they will come good

    Brighton Tore us to bits 2 times under poyet

  • 85 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    beattie why don’t ya just stay on in 1 name!?

  • 86 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    turkish get back to your own fcuken country support them teams.

    english people know what i’m talking about.

    A managers first season starts from the summer NOT winter FACT.

    chris highton was the manager that season pardews season begun in the summer.

    so like the other foreign b@stards stop talking nonsense and p1ss off.

  • 87 NUFCarter // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    Wigan are unbelievable

  • 88 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    I could put a novice jockey on a top thoroughbred in the National, and the horse could finish a creditable fifth. Beginners luck! Call it what you want. The luck doesn’t last. The jockey can’t repeat it.

    I’ve known people whom I liked initially and for whom I would work, but before long, the more I got to know them, the more they grated on me. I couldn’t stand them and didn’t believe in them.

  • 89 OhSholaAmeobi // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    it will be the same circumstances for any manager to work in with ashley as owner. a better manager might help, but we still won’t get anywhere decent.
    Ashley out as always, but the majority can’t be bothered to do something about it like mass boycotting/mass non-attendance.

  • 90 Cantbuyye // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    Please, please, please no one buy a season ticket until the FAT ONE invests. We are like sheep! That’s not football we’re getting, f@ck knows what it is!
    Stoke are mid table team and their fans are content, we’re mid table and not, possibly we’ve tasted a lot more of europe in the last 15-20 years than they’ll ever see. Stoke’s average at everything, play with with big hefty rugby type players with long ball target man tactics, At least they have a game plan, what is ours eh???
    I swore not to insult Pardew until the end of the season, times up, he is tactically retarded, the season finished for us when we got our 40 points, blow the whistle now for the end of season, sack Pardew and hopefully FAT TW@T will sell up. The only staff member I’d want to keep is Graham Carr. He seems a waste under this regime.

  • 91 Beattie25 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    Thomas Tuchel

  • 92 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    or better still have a great build up to a big comeback!?
    haha!! still makes me laugh that!

  • 93 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    I just think Fans Like those who are backing Pardew Just don’t want to admit they are wrong.

    He is not a PL manager

    Lets see what job he gets when he gets sacked.

  • 94 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:34 PM

    toonking

    he may be from turkey , at least he is not a turkey like you!!

    the guy knows more about football than you, proved every time you come on here

    gobshite

  • 95 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    toonking,

    I am sure you speak for a few people on here who would not be nearly stupid enough to state those views quite so bluntly.
    Ed should boot you off for that gobshite.
    But he won’t.
    Racist hits are still hits, eh, Ed!!!!

  • 96 TurkishFan101 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    toonking

    How many times? if they got to play and start or the team no one would slate them. I dont see no slating of Ben Arfa and Marveaux.

    Only slating I see is why THEY DONT PLAY.

    You got a problem with Martinez? he is more successful in life than you.

    manxpie

    yes they would, most of the managers listed have all been in that situation and barely have any money to spend unless they sell big players and replace them appropriately.

    It didnt work out for Pardew with transfers because Mikey Ashley trusts Graham Carr more than he does Pardew. Graham Carr and Mike Ashley are actually close friends in real life.

    So re-visit and look at whats happened to those managers in the past, cause I can guarantee you, they were under the pressure more than this twat of a manager here.

  • 97 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    HD

    well the same can be said about those who are only blaming pardew.
    simple really if we can’t admit we are wrong backing pardew, WELL YOU BASHER CAN’T ADMIT THAT YOU REALLY BACKING ASHLEY.

  • 98 Beattie25 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    Marco Bielsa

  • 99 Beattie25 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    * before he went to Marsaille

  • 100 Ibizatoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    Toonking…No need to bring your xenophobia into this debate. Nationality has little to do with the problems at our club, whether that be players, managers or fans. You can find positive and negative examples from all countries…it’s a non starter of a point, imo of course.

    However, those saying Pardew is not a PL standard manager. You can pull him on his “style”, his tactics, his team selections, his excuses, but come on, have some perspective, he may not be good enough for what we want at Newcastle, but clearly he is good enough to get by in the PL. That’s not me saying he is a good manager or that I want him to remain.

    Beatrice…Long time.

  • 101 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:39 PM

    Beattie25,

    I’m sure your knowing interjections are the latest in bespoke irony.
    But you have lost me, like.
    Which is a shame.

  • 102 NUFCarter // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:39 PM

    To be fair it will be hard for NUFC to attract managers who have achieved a lot in their time. so the likes of Solksjaer is probably the best we can get unfortunately. Mangers that we could get and that may do a job are in my opinion, Sean Dyche, Malky Mackay, Michael Laudrup and perhaps Eddie Howe. these are all better managers than Pardew, then again I can look in league 2/conference to find a better manager than him

  • 103 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:41 PM

    yawnking

    how is it backing Ashley ?

    I would love Ashley to go, if love to have the money to buy him out, that fact is
    300 million to get Ashley v 10 million for pardew which one is more realistic ?

    racist muppet

  • 104 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:42 PM

    turkish man you gotta remember that said managers have to spout ashleys crap and put up with it!

    so again rule out foreign managers
    it will be old british managers
    in fact i’d put my money on o’leary

    plus the managers you pointed out are all ambitious as i said they will never come to us!

    but carry on hammering a guy who has done his best for us under all the stupid conditions that 1 guy has set!

  • 105 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:43 PM

    Is someone going to answer my question? Has the world come to an end?

  • 106 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    Blacklie,

    Yes it has.
    At 2.13 this afternoon.
    Only you are left.
    I wonder how many years it will take for you to notice you are STILL talking to yourself?

  • 107 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    catchy
    listen mate you should keep your gob shut.
    if anyone tells me off for what i said it’s not you.

  • 108 NUFCarter // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    A manager who is tactically inept, cannot motivate his players and uses every excuse in the book is not a good manager

  • 109 Cantbuyye // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    @Black and Brownie…
    Just NUFC :(

  • 110 Ibizatoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    BandB @106…Thanks for that, now I need to go change.

  • 111 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    Bloody hell, I see everyone is getting along swimmingly on this fine evening.

    I haven’t quite got to grasps with the concept of the blame having to lie with one or the other, either Ashley or Pards.

    Ashley hampers Pardew in doing his job by not giving him a squad of sufficient depth or strength in certain positions.

    Pardew fails to get the best out of what he does have, and because of that is failing in his job.

    As for who comes in to replace Pardew, we may not get a better owner either, so should we all just silently accept that both are failing, but we don’t want rid on the off chance the next is worse.

    I wonder, do people apply the same theory to girlfriends/boyfriends? I have a girlfriend, she isn’t a very good girlfriend or pretty, kind intelligent funny, BUT I better keep her forever because if I don’t the next one might be worse.

    Seems a bit of an odd way to live ones life.

  • 112 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:47 PM

    beattie again i’m talking likely managers

    under ashley we’ve had 6 managers all british and all linked with the club

    so again not even a chance of a foreigner

  • 113 Average_Contents // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:48 PM

    I’m all for banners but them that were shown just about sum our “movement” to get fatty or the puppet out!

    I know let’s do a banner on a scruffy piece of rag and just scribble names on it! Seriously? If your going to do it at least make it decent

    Good goal by the gooners there

  • 114 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:48 PM

    manx

    serious question

    if you were given a job to do , crazy money being paid ,

    but you were failing, your staff arnt happy , your customers arnt happy,

    would you carry on in the job?

    knowing that your staff don’t respect you and your customers don’t trust you?

    surely only a greedy fool would carry on,

    and let’s face it , no one has a gun at his head forcing him to talk the crap he does,

  • 115 andrew84 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:49 PM

    toonking

    Instead of having a pop at fellow mags why don’t you go and spend the rest of the evening winding up some mackems on their forums? You’ll probably find that they have similar ideas about football as you ;)

  • 116 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:49 PM

    blackley phone 999 they might answer for ya!

  • 117 bob52 // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:50 PM

    Could not believe the side he put out today so many strange changes, Shola!! but with hindsight he did at least present some extra protection to the Stoke arial challenge, Gosling worked hard and should have scored, Anita did well, in fact we had 51% of the game with more shots than Stoke who have one of the best home records in the prem.
    Great support for the team all match, no for the slagging on this blog.

  • 118 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    ibita
    what i said to turkish fan was not done in a racist manner. if he says he is a turkish fan my guess is he is turkish so i’m just saying to him go and support a good turkish team rather than waste his time supporting newcastle.
    if he wants to support an english team then just support liverpool.

    the last bit where i said “foreign b@stard was mprobably going over the top so i’m sorry about than. sometime when a club is in a state like ours where even fans seem to be more like rivals, it can feel very stressful.

  • 119 NUFCarter // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    Uwe Roslers done brilliantly at Wigan

  • 120 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:53 PM

    Must say Remy would be a great buy for Arsenal . They are very poor upfront .

  • 121 Ancientcoptic // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:54 PM

    Mike Phelan isn’t currently with a club.

    I doubt he would say no if offered the job at our club.

  • 122 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:54 PM

    catchy not a serious question at all because its all your opinion without proof

    who says the players aren’t happy?
    who says the players or staff don’t respect him?
    and judging by the silent 52000 fans who say’s the customers don’t share your opinion?

  • 123 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:57 PM

    Lilongwe

    Ashley hampers pardew ?

    I really fail to see how , only if Ashley is asking him to win cups and titles,

    but he is not, his job is to stay in the premiership, so that being the goal , how does Ashley hamper pardew on the training ground,

    is it Ashley who says every free kick and corner must be aimed at MW?
    was it Ashley who plays shola ahead of good youth prospect

    apparently Ashley wants attacking football , yet pardew plays defensive football, there training was 4 days defensive 1 day attacking

    poyet played us off the park 2 times with inferior players from a lower devision

    Ashley has many faults , his biggest one for me is lack of ambition , and hiring pardew, but the football we play is not his fault

  • 124 foxy // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    First post long time reader.
    Pardew is party to all Ashley decisions – there is no division – if not he would walk or have been sacked. He is motivated by the financial incentives of not spending and saving Cabaye salary along with finishing in top ten. If achieved he will get his bonus. He is one of the worst managers we have had and I have seen some bad ones since 1964!!!! So as long as we have Ashley we have Pardew until they fall out.

  • 125 Ibizatoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    toonking…It’s apparent you’re getting frustrated, but instead of stooping to those levels, which to be honest just makes any points you are trying to make seem insignificant, just log off and try again another time.

    I doubt that many people have their opinions changed by coming on the blog, what it provides is a platform to debate. There really shouldn’t be any room for insults, but that doesn’t apply to just you.

    As for Turkish, it’s not up to us who he supports. Truth is, we all (well, most of us anyway) clearly love this club. We all have different feelings.

    My biggest gripe with Ashley and the symptoms of his ownership is the division it has caused between the fans. It’s disgusting.

  • 126 toon kk // Apr 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    We’re just over a season away from the Tyne/ wear Darby in the championship.

  • 127 Readingmag // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:00 PM

    KK Time !

    Ciaron, before you bang on, its tongue in cheek !

    I admit I have stick by Pardew, and 10/ 11 is a very reasonable result…BUT its time..

    My concern is who is taking over…NOT Hoddle (really concerned with the cockney connection)….please

  • 128 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:00 PM

    i just want to add the people calling for armstrong to start and get a chance i hope aren’t the same people who slate dummet and sammi which i seem to see a hell of alot on here! including today!

  • 129 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:01 PM

    the first sub pardew made was a force sub.
    so my guess is some bloggers were not following the game properly and decided to use the mbiwa sub as an excuse.
    saylor was injured so he has to be taken off and as it was 3-5-2 we needed to bring on mbiwa.

  • 130 guvnor // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    Manx mug belt up you turkey everybody knows pardews a total clown, so wise up!

  • 131 MosesNUFC // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    NUFCarter i still think Laudrup is the perfect man for the NUFC job. Yes he just carried on swansea’s passing philosophy, but what he did was that he improved it, he got the best out of every player, made them more attacking and scored 8 goals in his first two games as swansea manager. I thought they were alright under rodgers, but they were no where near as good as Laudrup’s swansea. 9th place finish and a trophy in the bag.

    Laudrup would bring us the mouth watering football we crave and if we are ever gonna win a cup again, Laudrup is the man to lift that trophy.

    Laudrup is our martinez to our everton (if that makes sense)

  • 132 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    manx

    I’m betting you that there are not many happy fans amongst them 52000,
    and let’s face it 52000 is only the tip of the iceberg , just because your not in the ground don’t make you not a fan, he will be getting sheet from fans every where he goes now

    the local press have an influence too, he has lost them. and for me they have been his biggest supporter until he kicked them into touch,

    the local press want there pound of flesh , he will pay

  • 133 guvnor // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    Vurnon Anita and Coloccini are the worst players at the club krul is worst goalkeeper.

  • 134 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:04 PM

    Catchy,
    If you can’t see that there is a problem with Ashley as well then I don’t get your problems with Pardew.

    If Ashley set a target of staying in the league and equips Pardew for that task, which he surely has if that’s the aim, and you are happy with that aim, then you should also be happy that Pardew is achieving that.

    Both are complicit in the problems at NUFC, neither should be absolved of blame for this awful run.

  • 135 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:05 PM

    ibiza

    I remember you having them types of talks with me when I was one of only a select few who seen this way back when,

    my opinion has not changed , but I see yours is ;)

  • 136 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:05 PM

    ibiza i ain’t condoning what toon said but turkish did say i’m brain damaged which is just as offensive but there was no reaction to that was there?

    i think every one can argue there points without the silly insults imo and thats my point you tosser! :)

  • 137 toon kk // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    Everyone is pd off with good reason the whole club is falling apart.
    Even TDS won’t post a comment anymore.

  • 138 guvnor // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    Watching Wigan shows how much Pardew knows about football the man’s a complete waste of space.

  • 139 guvnor // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:08 PM

    Manx the only point is your nappa, you moron.

  • 140 sparky55 // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    Pardew is not the first manager to have worked under a sh!te owner and he won’t be the last…but good footballing managers can still do a good job coaching during the week and on match days irrespective of the sh!te they have to put up with from their sh!te owners.

    Pardew has done a very poor job both on the training pitch and on match day simply because he is bereft of any modern coaching nous and it’s only his vast repertoire of amazing excuses and the fact he owes Ashley a lot of money has keep him in the job.

    No other coach on the planet (even Jose or pepe) if had lost the games Pardew has, coupled with the nature of the defeats (i.e. bloody awful, gutless, passionless, bereft of any guile or game plan) would have survived the chop. It’s a very sad indictment of our once great club that the only reason the manager has kept his job is because he owes money to the owner.

    Pardews overall track record (not just with us) is simply awful and repetitive (the same has happened at every club he’s been at)…so the writing really was on the wall and was all very predictable. How anyone can defend Pardew and his performances this year is simply beyond me…we haven’t been unlucky, we’ve been murdered week in – week out, with no show of improvement or signs that there may be a master-plan he’s working on…it’s a train wreck and the blame should ALL be firmly at Pardew’s door.

  • 141 Readingmag // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:10 PM

    Guvnor – Really – thought Anita was a bright light

  • 142 joenufc // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Pardews post match interview any one else watched it? I really think this fella is totally deluded. Apparently we gave an “honest” performance? Wtf is an honest performance, it’s just bullshit. We had 10 senior pros missing today??? according to him, remy,sissoko,debuchy and possibly Santon would of played where the 10 players he mentioned would of fitted in is anyone’s guess I can’t think can you? The north east press have really been gunning for them this week for no reason????? He’s lucky they not been asking for his nuts on a plate since they turn of the year, because in my reckoning we have comfortably been the worst i have ever seen since then. Oh and came out with the usual pearler “we’ll give our fans a performance in our next home game for sure” I count that 12 times this season he’s said that this season and delivered a performance not once.
    In all fairness he’s never throughout his career been a good manager, if he was why did he disappear of the map for so long before we appointed him,but I now can’t even stand looking at him. Not one teams fans in this league would of watched or put up with what we get fed week in week out and still turn up 50,000 strong to home games. It’s not loyalty, it’s not love for the club, what it is is acceptance. Until the day comes when st james park terraces empty because of these fools masquerading as football people in charge of our club nothing will change, its been said a million times over i know but it’s the only way.
    I can’t think of another club in history that has had its heart and soul systematically ripped out of it like Newcasthe United has by, listen to this you’ll think I’m winding you up, it’s OWNER and manager. Couldn’t make it up could you.

  • 143 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Lilongwe

    not so

    for me it’s like putting a Ferrari 458 up against mondeos, passats , lagunas , and only being just one second ahead of them at the end of the race
    sure you win, but only just,

    we have a better squad than is showing right now, and pardew just has them ticking over ,

    wh should I be happy when I know for a fact the team should be up there with Everton

  • 144 Ancientcoptic // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    “In five years’ time I would hope we would be challenging for everything,” Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias – 10 Feb 2009

    You can only laugh at how deluded that sounds, now 5 years on.

  • 145 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    catchy so its pardew who banned the press then?
    i think you’ll find it was ashley and i also think you’ll find that it is ashley where most of the fans are angry with!

    and if there was a poll of who the fans wanted out ashley would be a very clear winner lol

  • 146 NUFCarter // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:12 PM

    Moses
    I agree, but I read the reason to why Laudrup got sacked from Swansea was because he lost it. He went off on holiday after a Swansea defeat and he allowed the players to drink whilst on their training week

  • 147 Ibizatoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:13 PM

    Manx…No offense to Turkish at all, but I didn’t even read his post, so didn’t see that.

    I can’t pick everyone up on every insult on here, amazingly I do have a life.

    We all say things in frustration, for me, I felt toonking took it too far and we have since discussed it reasonably….it’s not too hard.

    Anyway, go jump off a cliff you w@nker!

    Catchy…Being completely honest, it’s not really about your opinions. I object to the way you talk to people. You’ve been calling people losers for years now, simply for having a different view. Fair enough you’ve taken a fair bit of stick too, but that’s probably expected for someone who didn’t seem to take any pleasure out of finishing 5th and has said on many occasions he’d prefer to see us lose, for whatever reason.

    I still maintain that whilst your opinions on Pardew may well be accurate, your ideals of what might come next are well off the mark.

    The biggest issue surely has to be why Pardew is still in a job. It’s not for footballing reasons, clearly. If you expect that an ambitious manager would seriously come and work under Ashley and if he did, actually last in a job, then I don’t know what to say.

    Ashley could of course prove me wrong, in fact, I’d love nothing more.

    There is nothing wrong with changing ones opinion. Things change and so should we.

    I am getting fed up with Pardew, however, that was to be expected. I always said he would be fired when it’s convenient for Ashley. He’s just a pawn in this game.

  • 148 Average_Contents // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:15 PM

    Joenufc

    Well fcuking said mate

  • 149 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    Catchy,
    Read my post man!! I’m not saying Pardew is good in anyway shape or form!!But he isn’t the only problem! Yes, Pardew is tactically useless, despite all this talk of playing on the front foot, the bloke has two back feet. He can’t develop players and doesn’t get the best out of what he has.

    My point is, that so far tonight people seem to blame one or the other, neither are blameless, it isn’t that black and white. Yes, this team would be far better under a more progressive coach (not sure on your choices mind) but if Ashley only wants mid table, which you don’t see as an issue, then Pardew is bang on this season.

  • 150 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    sparky can you name these great managers for us please that have worked under shit owners cos i’m scratching to think of 1?

  • 151 Ibizatoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    Lil…As always, a breath of blog fresh air.

  • 152 NUFCarter // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/swansea-sacked-michael-laudrup-phoning-3112286

    To be fair though you cant believe everything you read. Laudrup came out back in February and said the reason to his sacking was because he wouldn’t change his backroom staff

  • 153 toonking // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    what i think causes this worst of all is when people are choosing to bring other teams into the equasion.

    martinez could be doing good at everton this season but this season is his first season in charge of everton not his 3rd.

    yes freddy shepard would have sacked pardew by now but freddy shepard was sacking managers because they were not putting the players to good use after he spent the money for them in the summer. pardew himself doesn’t get the chance to build a new team in the first place.

    yes southampton might look a great team but they have had about 7 years to create that team in them lower divisions. We newcastle fans don’t want relegation we want premier league so therefore we will struggle to build a team like southampton did as freddy and SJH destroyed our academy.

    pardew isn’t a decent manager for top4 team but managers who are going to see teams get top 4 want owners who are going to spend money not owners who are going to sell their key players.

    pardew might not play stylish football but the truth is stylish football is not always going to keep you in the top 10 swansea were a relegation battler wigan still went down last year and the biggest of all blackpool were very entertaining but they still suvived just one season.

    blackpool has just reminded me of a good manager how about ince when he was manager of blackpool?

  • 154 sparky55 // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    maxpie…don’t remember saying great managers???

  • 155 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:20 PM

    BandB, CantBuyye, Manx

    I thought the world would come to an end if Armstrong got some game time. I thought there was a serious danger of Armstrong spontaneously combusting and setting off a chain reaction among the players, the fans, the country, and the whole world.

    It passed off okay did it? Has anyone checked to see whether young Armstrong is still alive?

  • 156 Bambams // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:20 PM

    1. Cant recall any other club being after Pardew when we brought him to the club.

    2. His record is below average

    3. He is not known for playing good football

    4. He was in debt from gambling

    5. He has no idea how to deal with skillful players

    6. Admits he spends 4 training sessions working on defence !

    7. He is a bloody idiot on the touchline

    8. He is a yes man

    9. He is never to blame

    10. He is the unsackable one.

    Our fantastic club could be so better with a decent manager who has an idea how to play offensively and not negatively.

    Watched the match today and the boys even suggested he wants to be sacked therefore hus contract will be paid up and his debt paid off.
    I disagreed because he knows he will never get another club like ours.
    One thing is for certain….He is useless ! That line up today when we are struggling for goals was laughable. How many players out of position. The man is blinded.

    IMO

  • 157 toon kk // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:22 PM

    My big question is why does Mash rate Pardew so much?

  • 158 guvnor // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    Under Pardew Newcastle United are a pile of crap.

  • 159 Ibizatoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    toon kk…That is simple. He will spin the clubs propaganda. He stands there and takes it, whilst Ashley doesn’t have to. It’s a perfect relationship.

  • 160 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    ibiza my tosser to you was toungue in cheek where yours obviously wasn’t lol
    i thought you’d have seen that but never mind turkish has actually been calling me brain dead and damaged and other things and my point is its not needed and your the same i was just pointing out there’s no smoke without fire

  • 161 guvnor // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    Manx is a nut job!

  • 162 Toon Tang // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    blackley 155 hahaaaa

  • 163 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    Ibiza,
    Cheers mate, it would explain why the Mrs calls me a wind bag! ;-)

  • 164 Toon Tang // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    wigan showing what you can do with a bit of bite and fight and drive etc

  • 165 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    ibiza

    I started off being very nice, expressing my opinion on why I did not rate obertan, football reasons , got shot down very nastily many times

    then I noticed the football game pardew watched was a very different game to the one I was watching

    I was saying we only play hoof ball long before stats came out confirming it, but people chose to listen to pardew telling them he played on the front foot football,

    I got slated for it, in a very nasty way , people where ganging up on me on here, I have never changed my view , but I have changed the way i talk to people , it’s always the same ones I call

    you were also not very nice calling me cathy all the time as I recall

  • 166 sparky55 // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    toon kk. he doesn’t rate him…Pardew simply owes him lots of money and won’t sack him because of the 8 year contract which has back fired on him because that was only put in place when Ashley had someone on the hook to buy the club (before he got too greedy) and was designed to ensure he would get all the money owed to him once the new owner sacked Pardew.

    so we’re basically stuck with the moron (both morons!) until the club is sold

  • 167 Ibizatoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:28 PM

    Manx…I’m not sure if you’re playing up to the joke, but to be clear, my calling you a w@nker was a joke in response to your joke.

    Easy mate, we’re not all on here to fight…honest.

    It’s true what they say about no smoke without fire, sadly. However, you can put out fires and leave the smoke to others.

  • 168 cyprus // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    Beattie,
    Your intelligent and witty posts are missed from this blog.

    On the AP matter I think most people (ok there are exceptions, respect for your endurance) have decided. He’s crap. As a manager I mean. The head butt was no big deal Ed :) compared to the crimes against football ;)

  • 169 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    I note wily Pardew played young Armstrong in a wide right position. Because that’s his most comfortable position, isn’t it? That’s what the fans have been crying out for, isn’t it?

    Wily Pardew used to bring young Campbell on wide left because that is his best position, isn’t it?

    Of course, if Armstrong or Campbell actually scored, the fans would be right. How embarrassing would that be? Best not to play them in their best positions then!

  • 170 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:32 PM

    alright then sparky who’s these “good footballing” managers that have worked under shit owners who don’t actually provide a squad?

  • 171 Ibizatoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:32 PM

    Catchy…You can choose to believe me or not, but “Cathy” was a genuine typo.

    If I remember correctly, I asked afterwards whether it offended you as I found it an amusing typo and one that may take the edge off of things.

    Anyway, there is probably no debate to be had here. You have your views, I have mine. I’m glad you feel vindicated and I do apologise that the nasty people on the blog made you stoop to their level. Human after all I guess.

    Lil…Smart lass you have there :)

  • 172 BandB // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:33 PM

    Lil,

    Ibiza is right.
    You are always worth the read.
    I respect a lot of views on here.
    But the Tweedledum or Tweddledee model that divides debate needs to be challenged now.
    While lots of views have shifted. this false choice continues to get in the way.
    If you want to know who is winning, don’t ask who is right and who is wrong (and I cross-reference you girlfriend/boyfriend remarks here). Ask who is getting what they want. They are usually the ones responsible.

  • 173 catchy in norway // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    Lilongwe

    I agree , there both to blame

    I just see it differently , I do think we don’t buy the players we should when we should , Ashley’s fault all day long

    but like I said , training , coaching , team selection , subs , and tactics are all pardew , regardless of what any manager has to work with, he should be able to set up a team and get them playing football , pardew can not do that, he puts his defensive ego ahead of getting the best out of decent attaking players , not world beaters , but no matter who we play, we always sink to there levels

  • 174 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    haha soz ibiza but smiley faces are sometimes extremely important lol :)
    especially in text land

  • 175 Ibizatoon // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    Manx…Never underestimate the importance of a smiley!

    Anyway, dinner calls.

    Bye for now.

  • 176 NUFCarter // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUlea23HcSE

    views on behalf of the majority of NUFC fans

  • 177 manxpie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:39 PM

    haha sorry but this is surely the best quote on here…

    “you were also not very nice calling me cathy”

    :)

  • 178 NUFCarter // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    Bayern 0-3 Borussia. shock result of the weekend

  • 179 brklyngeordie // Apr 12, 2014 at 7:47 PM

    No doubt we will go down next season if Pardew remains.
    After that we can only hope someone comes along and purchases club on the cheap.
    The way this season has played out and due to Pardews horrible management i cant see us recruiting players from France anymore cant see any of our current players giving their approval of our club.
    Really worrying considering how tight our owner is where will we be able to recruit players from La Liga 2nd division like we are now? Really worrying times ahead

  • 180 sparky55 // Apr 12, 2014 at 8:34 PM

    what do you mean “don’t provide a squad”. We have a good squad…just a sh!te manager

  • 181 ToonMatt // Apr 13, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    The fans love it thats why they turn up every other week and give Mike there money.




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