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Pardew Must Not Lose Against Swansea On Saturday

9:31 pm, Monday, April 14th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 61 Comments

There is a growing feeling that if Newcastle lose to Swansea City on Saturday – a team that is fighting against relegation and are only 3 points above the drop zone – and suffer five defeats on the trot, that could well see owner Mike Ashley fire Alan Pardew, the Newcastle manager.

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Alan Pardew on Saturday at Stoke 

Of course it would take some gumption for the Newcastle owner to fire his manager after he has been part of the problem.

Ashley sold our best player in January – Yohan Cabaye for £20M to PSG – and then he didn’t replace him, and in one move for big money three months ago –  it weakened the Newcastle side big time.

Newcastle have missed Yohan Cabaye’s goals – he had scored five in his last seven games for Newcastle –  and his creative play has also been a big miss – and we wont even mention his threat from free-kicks.

And then early in March to compound things, we lost Loic Remy and Mathieu Debuchy to injury, and they haven’t played since, and we have had five defeats in the last six games, and have scored one goal. :(

And it’s certainly true that for one reason or another Alan Pardew is not getting the best out of the players he has available.

If he is, then the players need to be sold in the summer, because they are patently not good enough to wear the back and white shirt of Newcastle United.

So even if we are hopeless again on Saturday and heaven forbid we lose for the fourth successive time to Swansea, we still don’t think Mike Ashley will sack the manager.

But you never know what Mike Ashley may do, and you never know what Ashley is thinking – maybe he’s going to sell the club in the summer.

OK – so I just made that one up – bet that got your attention. :D

If Pardew is fired before the summer transfer window rolls around, Wigan’s new German manager Uwe Rosler, or former Chelsea and West Brom manager Roberto di Matteo would likely be strong candidates for the job.

But if there is going to be a change of manager, it would need to take place before the summer transfer season starts, because the manager needs to have input into that process.

We still think the chances are that Alan Pardew will be the manager come pre-season training in July – unless we lose the last four games of the season.

The Newcastle players need to go all out – 100% on Saturday – to try to get a second win in seven games.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Newcastle News · Premier League



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61 responses so far ↓

  • 1 BandB // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:34 PM

    And just supposing he does, Ed?
    I imagine then you will really get your mad up with him?
    Thought so.
    Well, I’ll hold me breath.

  • 2 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    He tried that against Stoke as well and it didn’t work .

    Is that what its come to as an NUFC fan ? . Hoping we just don’t lose FFS .

  • 3 MosesNUFC // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    Ed why have you not mentioned Michael Laudrup? He’s a top quality young manager who can get us playing football again and is available for FREE

  • 4 Toon Tang // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    Nah, pards will be here next season and every other season as long as he keeps us from going down (some how)

  • 5 Graeme // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:38 PM

    If the consequence of losing three of the last four games is a definate P45 for Pardew, I’ll happily sign up to that. Shit, I’d even drive him darn sarf, free of charge.

    Seems like a right good deal to me lol.

  • 6 jazzyp // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:38 PM

    The Newcastle players will go all out Saturday to lose to make sure the silver haired fox gets his marching orders.

  • 7 anthc // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:46 PM

    I can’t see us getting anything from this game and if that means pardew goes then the defeat will be a bit easier to swallow.

  • 8 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:49 PM

    Poyet has been sacked, make way Pardew because your job is totally under pressure now since MA wanted Poyet at Newcastle last year but didn’t want to pay AP compensation

  • 9 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:50 PM

    I thought it would be a good thing if we lost? Have I missed something?

  • 10 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:54 PM

    I hope we lose against Swansea, saying that we will lose against Swansea, so what if there fighting relegation they will be tougher than playing against the big teams

  • 11 anthc // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:56 PM

    Poyet sacked? Bit harsh on the fella considering what he had to worked with or is it just gossip?

  • 12 Thump // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:56 PM

    @Moses: Laudrup might be free, but getting rid of Pardew is not.

  • 13 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:56 PM

    I wonder if we lose our next 4 games Pardew will be sacked?

    just because Lee & Pardew says it won’t happen, they will never know when it comes to MA

  • 14 Thump // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:57 PM

    @anthc: It’s gossip, mate. Apparently SAFC confirmed it as a load of bollocks earlier on. Apparently some bairn on Twitter (shock horror) started the rumour.

  • 15 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:57 PM

    anthc

    he’s been sacked mate, Iv’e got a few mackems mates that have also said so

  • 16 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 14, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    Thump

    it’s not gossip mate it’s happened

  • 17 jazzyp // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:00 PM

    Black and white
    I would keep the Mackem mates bit quiet mate if I was you lol

  • 18 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:01 PM

    Thump…but finishing higher than 10th could fund that ;)

  • 19 toon kk // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:03 PM

    Let’s sum NUFC up, well we have a fab stadium spoilt by all that shitty SD advertising but still great for champions league football, we have a fan base as high as any champions league club. The downside is we have a championship team a manager of championship quality at best, And a owner who loves to count money.

  • 20 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:03 PM

    jazzyp

    don’t worry mate Iv’e tried to convince them to take Pardew ;)

  • 21 geordie157 // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:03 PM

    must not lose!!! we can lose all the games left and Pards still will be here next season.

  • 22 firebug666 // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:05 PM

    Well it’s not a game that I expect us to win anyway. The way we are playing at present we couldn’t beat a Sunday league team. That said I don’t see Pardrew getting the sack, simply because he should have been sacked last season, or for the head butt, but that never happened. He is here for the duration of that ridiculous contract he was given, and the fans will just have to suck it up and watch poor non-football until relegation comes our way, Oh wait….. he’ll be gone next season then.

  • 23 jimiley // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:05 PM

    Pardew sacked? you must be joking. He will deliver 10th spot and get a BONUS. Its the mad world at NUFC. As long as he keeps us in the Prem he has got a job. Demos can get rid of a manager but there is only one way to get rid of the real cancer at the club. STAY AWAY.

  • 24 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:06 PM

    toon kk

    1. wrong
    2. wrong
    3. spot on

    1. we have a good squad capable of reaching top 6.
    2. saying that AP is championship material is an insult to Championship manager.
    3. again spot on.

  • 25 jimiley // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    We have the third richest owner in the Prem. Compare our owner’s activities at the club with the owners of Man C and Chelsea. They give big time and our owner takes big time. STAY AWAY. We are cursed with this owner.

  • 26 ogalaga_toon // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    I would not mind di Matteo as manager at all

  • 27 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    firebug666

    aye mate just till the end of next season we will see Pardew sacked.

    I don’t know why but I think there’s going to be a massive celebrations when he leaves, other team fans would probably think we’ve won a cup ;)

  • 28 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:11 PM

    I would pick any manager over Pardew even an unknown manager

  • 29 firebug666 // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:14 PM

    Black and White

    Aye open top bus parade around the city. :D

    If or when Swansea beat us and Pardrew is still here we will all know the bad news is set to linger, and the poison within the club will continue to swell and fester.

  • 30 geordie157 // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:15 PM

    I’d take any of these managers over Pardew that are available, Laudrup, Di Matteo, Jol, Mackay, Zola………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..Ginola??

  • 31 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:16 PM

    Apart from that 2 nil win where we beat Swansea with 2 Cisse wonder goals Pardew can not set up a team that plays like Swansea who press and pass the ball around well

    This could be embarrassing if Bony has his shooting boots on and Michu is playing

  • 32 geordie157 // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:21 PM

    Routledge will run riot too, to think we got shot of him and brought in Obertan!!

  • 33 jazzyp // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:28 PM

    To think the Mackem’s have scored as many goals at Sjp than ourselves this year is shocking to say the least

  • 34 stripes1009 // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:36 PM

    I think AP has had his chance. 3 years and we have gone backwards from his first full season. Frank de Boer at Ajax would be my recommendation as replacement as Ajax seem to bring in youngsters and develop them and are constantly in with a chance of winning things. Give him a long contact so he can implement their way of doing things. We can only get better !

  • 35 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:44 PM

    Apart from the fans, what pressure is on Pardew?
    Where is there anything to back up he’ll get his marching orders if we lose to Swansea?

    His feet are so far under the table he can count the change in Ashley’s pockets with his toes

    Also nout anywhere about Poyet getting sacked, where’s that come from?
    Would be suicide for them to sack him now tbf

  • 36 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:44 PM

    @stripes

    De Boer would be my first choice thing is Ajax sell their star players all the time and bring youngsters through so its not really a different expectation to what Ashley really wants

    I honestly cant see him coming to us though I think he will be a contender for the Arsenal/Barcelona job in the future its a shame because with proper ambition and fully embracing the methods the likes of Ajax use I think he would be into the proposition but I just cant see Ashley giving someone that level of freedom and control

  • 37 stuart no9 // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:45 PM

    to be honest, why should we have to wait after the swansea game to sack pards? this should have been sorted after the hull affair , and the fact that it wasnt worries me a little, however , move on and if a defeat is what it will take for ashley to sack him, then so be it, come on you swans – do the north east a big favour , give us a drubbing in our own backyard so we can start to rebuild ???????? hopefully in the close season, and get ourselves back up to a decent level with a proper manager.

  • 38 banjax // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    Why wait to sack him .

  • 39 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:47 PM

    stripes
    He’d be a good shout but he’s not responsible for there top rate academy or the fact there the powerhouse of the Dutch league
    They’ve had a top academy for decades, that being said it would great to grab him and Bergkamp from there!
    Sadly I doubt Ashley has a clue who either are and we’ll end up with Curbishly and Dowie!

  • 40 BandB // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    An incentivised 10th for us, I think.
    With a goal difference on par with the relegated clubs.
    It sets your blood racing doesn’t it?
    Please, please, Mike.
    Make it a bit more affordable next season.

  • 41 Graeme // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    Stripes, that would be a major step forward – having a formation; an ethos on the way the club wants to play footy. Then, once it is agreed, every club team from under 11′s upwards, is coached and educated in the way the club wants to go.

    Every member of the reserves, within a few years, would have the ability to fit seamlessly into the 1st team – which is exactly what FCB have done for many years.

    All it takes is desire, drive and support from the Illustrious Owner downwards. Employ only coaches who can work to the ethos, can develop skills in the youngest team members and supply a steady stream of able, up and coming young players.

  • 42 lew // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:51 PM

    my bettings for Saturday:

    Newcastle -Swansea A
    Villa – Southampton A
    West Ham – Palace H
    Cardiff – Stoke A

    What do you think lads?
    I think its of the easier kinds of money! :D

    and…. PARDEW, ARE YOU STILL HERE? WTF

  • 43 Marty-Toon // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    We will just be chasing shadows against the Swans,they pass the ball too well for an AP team to know what to do about it.
    What makes anyone think we will get any points from now until the season ends?
    I really can’t see it happening my friends

  • 44 toon kk // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:55 PM

    Can’t see MA sacking Pards, he takes all the shit and is willing to tell Mashleys lies for him. The club has hit it’s target and it’s the papers falt for our poor form lately.

  • 45 Marty-Toon // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    Listen,if the owner gave him the job of reaching tenth then he did his job.
    That’s all the boss wants,they ingrained that into the players brains that they didn’t have to achieve more than that.
    Of course the players don’t care,they’ve been Pardewed into thinking tenth is fine.
    They really must be p1ssed off that Cabaye was sold when things were actually going fine for the team.
    Why would ya wanna bust your bag for a regime that doesn’t care about the team,only for the money?

  • 46 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    Graeme
    Good posts, has been my argue meant for months, there’s no identity installed at any level of the club
    We play awful football from top to bottom, even are apparent highly rated youths are propping up the U21 league

    The big problem is there is no one at the club to identify managers/coaches/ directors to move the football forward

    Sadly Pardew and his coaches are the only ones at the club with “football knowledge” and there hardly going to advise/ scout/ recommend there own replacements!!
    That’s why I was praying for an proper MD or DoF to be appointed, but instead we get the skivy who runs the pay roll promoted, could of guessed eh!

  • 47 BandB // Apr 14, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    tads,

    You are sounding very reasonable and fatalistic. Pardew is still the best of a bad job, is he?

  • 48 Graeme // Apr 14, 2014 at 11:05 PM

    Greetings TADS – Its not exactly rocket science is it. Some of the top teams in Europe have been working that way for donkey’s years and reaping the benefit.

    Unfortunately, all we have to show for our best efforts is the bloody Donkey!!! Its simply not good enough.

  • 49 jimmysmith // Apr 14, 2014 at 11:09 PM

    Oh no! Ashley’s grand business plan is possibly little if anything more than to provide EPL football at cheap prices. Literally asking us to pay for the privilege of seeing Newcastle play against teams that are consistently better than us with better players than us, at St James.

    Beyond advertising his tat, that’s the extent of his ambitions for us. Living off the quality and ambitions of other clubs and the global popularity of the league while punching beneath our own weight, like leeches.

    What a scam! Surely not?

  • 50 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 14, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    Graeme
    Sadly that’s what you get when you somehow end up with a fat cockney playboy who’s bought a club for sh1ts and giggles!
    He’s not got a clue like

    BandB
    No not at all, used to have a degree of sympathy for the bloke, everytime we had a player doing well he’s was flogged etc but ffs 11 out of 16, if he can’t get the lads motivated for the paying fans then he he doesn’t deserve the job

  • 51 BandB // Apr 14, 2014 at 11:14 PM

    jimmysmith,

    Seeds of doubt?
    Well don’t worry. It is apparently okay to shoot your mouth off for years about the horrors of Ashley, but still buy your own tickets “because they are still getting full houses anyway”
    I learned that today.

  • 52 jimmysmith // Apr 14, 2014 at 11:28 PM

    BandB,

    I of course don’t know if that is Ashley’s overall intention or long term goal, although you’d have to think it was very much on the cards considering what we’ve had from him over the past seven years, but I do think its an accurate assessment of where we stand right now.

    Maybe that’s why Nicollin, for one, appears to hate our guts so much.

  • 53 Sav // Apr 14, 2014 at 11:29 PM

    As for the vitriol against the manager, he ain’t resigning and the owner isn’t about to sack him. And if he did, just who exactly is going to come in and work miracles under this regime? Not Laudrup, not Martinez, not Poccetino. Cabaye was not only our best player but the key player to getting performances out of others. That sale and the injuries to our 3 best frenchmen is why we are losing. If we had invested in a decent squad when we should have, they could have been replaced but we didn’t and now there’s not a damn thing the manager or anyone else can do about it. Pure and simple, there’s your answer. I couldn’t give a toss what excuses or none are trotted out in post-match interviews Anyone who believes a word of any of those is a fool. They are cliche-ridden PR and good managers never blame players in public. If you know your club and just watched the game, you don’t need to be told what went wrong or why. You have a brain and eyes to tell you. Now put your bedsheets in the wash for the next 4 matches and lets get behind the team for a win because the owner is deaf and bomb-proof and couldn’t give a sh*te.

  • 54 mindcompressor // Apr 14, 2014 at 11:35 PM

    i can’t see fatso firing up pardass… i would love to see that, however he should be sacked season ago. this is nothing new now – so, fatso is content that we are still in BPL and that’s it. pardass can swallow all the shit, can blame everything – press, fans, wind, grass to green, ball to hard or too soft, lines too white… there are still plenty excuses to use till the end of that season…

    shame that we didn’t bring di matteo together with pardass suspension. like he was in chelsea – as ‘caretaker’, right? just for experiment till the end of season.

    anyway, swansea helped us to avoid relegation season ago when they were playing about nothing and still beat qpr if i remember good. now they will beat us and maybe they can save themselves this season…

    pardass will place armstrong for 10 mins on right wing and play whole game with shola… and let arfa play for 20 mins to blame him for defeat. i can’t see us scoring and keep 0 at the back… so, probably 3 points will go to wales…

  • 55 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 14, 2014 at 11:38 PM

    @rossgregory9: Hearing that Rob Elliot is seriously not happy with today’s claims. Feels there’s a lot of embellishment and some plain untruths! #nufc

    A lot going round on twitter that the “interview” is a crock of sh1t, who knows, two p1ssed blokes having an argument about football, thought the mag had higher standards tbh

  • 56 BandB // Apr 14, 2014 at 11:40 PM

    jimmysmith,

    Just making sure you aren’t THE Jimmy Smith. This has been lingering every time I read your posts. Because if you are, I have some questions to ask about a small, crying, girl and a lost ball back in 1972!
    Otherwise, wouldn’t it be better if this was just paranoia on the part of me and others who have lost some faith in the club? If you are still going, look around and wish all that atmosphere was back. Even I was a small (and noisy) part of that.

  • 57 BandB // Apr 14, 2014 at 11:42 PM

    Sav,

    As ever, your reasoning is absolutely

  • 58 dcdick // Apr 15, 2014 at 12:55 AM

    Pardew Out !!!

  • 59 lesh // Apr 15, 2014 at 2:02 AM

    If the word’s correct that there’s discontent in the dressing room, then Pardew’s got a real big task to motivate the players.

    If we do lose to Swansea and it’s evident that the lads’ weren’t up for the fight, then for me, Pardew’d have to go.

    When though’s another matter but my gut tells me he’ll be moved upstairs or sideways at the start of the close season.

    Where’s Online in all this? ;-)

  • 60 Go toon gooooo // Apr 15, 2014 at 5:56 AM

    Pardew out.

  • 61 Sav // Apr 15, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    The Mag ‘interview’ is an intrusion and a disgrace. How you can take shorthand while holding a pint beats me.




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