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Newcastle Are Bottom Club Since Boxing Day

9:28 am, Sunday, April 20th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 153 Comments

One of our readers has compiled the figures in the Premier League for the last 16 games before this weekend’s fixtures, and Newcastle were second from bottom, but since Cardiff City drew 1-1 at home to Stoke yesterday, they are now level on points with Newcastle – have the same goal difference but have scored more goals than Newcastle – so the bottom line is we are bottom of the league since we hammered a nine man Stoker City side 5-1 on Boxing Day.

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Alan Pardew – Newcastle manager

We have to thank one of readers, Erlend Bakke Møller, for doing all the hard work to put this league table together, and to Oleg for sending me the table – but it does show that once we ended our seven wins in nine games streak – we have been the worst performing team in the Premier League.

Here’s the table.

Pos    Team         Played  Won  Draw Lost  GD  Points
1.	Liverpool         16       13	   2	   1    +29    41
2.	Chelsea	       16 	 12	   2	   2    +27   38
3.	Man City         16 	 11	   3	   2    +23	  36
4.	Everton	       16 	 10	   2	   4     +9	  32
5.	Man Utd	       16 	 9	   2	   5    +10	  29
6.	Tottenham      16	 9	   2	   5     +5	  29
7.	Arsenal	       16	 8	   4	   4      0	  28
8.	Crystal Palace 16	 7	   3	   6     +1	  24
9.	West Ham       16	 7	   2	   7     +1	  23
10.	Stoke	       16	 6	   4	   6     -2	  22
11.	Southampton   16	 6	   3	   7     -2	  21
12.	West Brom      16	 3	   8	   5     -6	  17
13.	Hull City          16	 5	   1 	 10       0	  16
14.	Sunderland      16	 4	   4	   8     -7	  16
15.	Aston Villa       16	 4	   3	   9     -8	  15
16.	Fulham	        16	 4	   2	 10    -24	  14
17.	Swansea	        16	 3	   4	  9      -4	  13
18.	Norwich	        16	 3	   4	  9     -10	  13
19.	Newcastle        16	 4	   1 	 11     -20	  13
20.	Cardiff	        16	 3 	   3	 10     -19	  12

And since we have only been a couple of players short in this terrible streak of form – we are now wondering just how well (or badly) we will do next season. :(

It’s getting scary – very scary.



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153 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Kamikaze Koala // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    Im sorry if this comment is out of order however, doesnt Pardew or even Ashley live around Newcastle or somewhere that their are toon supporters because if he lived close to me i would given him a piece of my mind everytime i’d see either!

  • 2 Go toon gooooo // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:38 AM

    Right post in right time.

  • 3 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:38 AM

    Pardew breaks abysmal records wherever he goes. Cabaye wasn’t sold at every club he’s been at. He’s also had his pick of players at previous clubs so don’t think it is because he has to manage Carr’s choices it is a problem. They wanted him out at his other clubs when he was selecting the players.

    Cabaye has played in many of our games we’ve lost. He’d aleady played in 5 losses before he went I think it was.

    He was only winning games in the main from individual ability. Just like Remy does. Free kicks are from a dead-ball speciality, not very good team play. His long shot against Liverpool was like that as well.

    Individual skill was patching over poor and clueless football.

    The recent 6 points from Remy last minute and Ben Arfa’s dink to Cisse got Pardew out of jail when we also played very poorly once again.

    Lucky goals and individual goals have papered over the cracks for too long. This is Pardew’s norm.

  • 4 Transfer Sage // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Jesper (if still logged in)

    You say Pardew should do what’s best for the club and walk….it would be good but at the same time why would he?

    There are clear mistake every week he cannot identify, he doesn’t see the mistakes he makes therefore he might genuinely think he is the right man to turn it around…..so he might be being genuine/honest (and what he’d say doing the right thing, fixing his own mess).

  • 5 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    Even the ‘hammering’ of Stoke we had to wait until two players were sent off to get such a scoreline. He got lucky again as if they had eleven players out we’d have lost.

  • 6 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    Swansea beat us last time when their whole forward line was out. Michu was again out yesterday. They still won.

    Are they toired, Alan?

    We should have the freshest squad in the league having been quickly knocked out of both cups and not in Europe. The excuse of last season. What a surprise we’re not in any of those competitions and we’re still lucking clueless.

  • 7 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    *looking clueless

  • 8 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    Koala, I’d heard from a coach at the club that Pardew was like a part-time manager and just came up from down south later in the week, where he still lives.

    You’ll have a job giving him a piece of your mind unless you’re willing to get the train down there.

  • 9 Ben3arfa // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:49 AM

    PARDEW OUT

  • 10 thai-mag // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    Alan[next week]Pardew says it’s not all that bad because most the 16 teams we played were top 5 teams with a lot more spending power than us

  • 11 Bambams // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    Mike Ashley only reacts to major problems when they happen. We are not going to get relegated. Job done this season.

    If next season we are in a low position by January which looks likely Ash will buy the players to keep us in the league. Thats it

    He will do the bare minimum and in Pards he has his ‘Yes Sir’ man who will not cause waves.

    Newcastle United = Sports Direct Advertising

  • 12 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    “West Ham have just 14 points from 17 matches and have managed only four wins, all at home. They have not scored in their last seven league matches away from Upton Park.”

    A report from when he was in charge of West Ham. Sound familiar? They had demonstrations to get him out too.

    Ashley and Pardew out.

  • 13 lesh // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Cabaye went to PSG because ‘We’re playing to win’, whereas NUFC’s play is based on trying (and not doing very well at it) to finish mid-table. Even that’s at risk.

  • 14 Graeme // Apr 20, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    It doesn’t matter how peed off we are with the performance of Pardew and the complete capitulation of the players, we seem completely uninterested since we hit 40 points.

    The owner has set the targets, laid out his expectations and we have achieved them. The objective was to finish in top 10 and it looks as though it will happen; if we finish 11th the employees of the club will miss out on their bonuses, which will save the owner another couple of million pounds – will MA be upset? I doubt it.

    The other objectives were to avoiod a cup run as it would put undew pressure on our squad which was achieved very quickly indeed; Avoiding qualification to the Europa League has been achieved in even a greater manner than avoiding a cup run.

    As far as MA is concerned, Pardew has faithfully achieved everything that has been asked of him, without any problem at all. Why on earth would MA sack Pardew in these circumstances?? All the Illustrious Owner is interested in is promoting his main business venture, which SJP does so well, plastered as it is in SD tat everywhere you look.

  • 15 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    … oh and Cabaye wasn’t sold when he was at West Ham.

    He actually HAD Tevez and Mascherano.

  • 16 toon kk // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    Transfer s
    you hit a very true point about Pardew, in his mind he thinks he is the right man for the job and like you say he clearly can’t see the mistakes he’s making. So he’s wondering why people are on his case, and blames everything but himself.

  • 17 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    Laurent,
    Who are you trying to convince, we all know he’s shite and has completely lost the dressing room, the fans had a chance to do something about it yesterday but they trudged off in silence, as I booed them off yesterday some guy said to me that was never a penalty, I looked at him like I gave a fusk and said what’s it matter anyway.

  • 18 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    “He also struggled to get the best out of Argentine striker Carlos Tevez, who came to the club in the August transfer window along with fellow international Javier Mascherano. Tevez still has not scored for the club.”

    Still not scored for the club… and Cisse is also struggling. Tevez has since played for Man Utd, City amd now Juve. Good work Alan, you’re actually unbelievable in your dull football.

  • 19 theartfuldodger // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    We watch crap every week…Can anyone explain why 50K fans turn up to watch it…

    Why not go watch a 2-3 hour movie..

  • 20 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Jail, I went yeterday and I was indeed singing very loud Pardew out and it’s never your fault with other fans.

    If the goal had come earlier it would have been like that for most of the game.

    I’m not trying to convince anybody. I’m giving a reflection on the state of the team. If it’s constantly negative, well that is a reflection of what I see. This is afterall a toon blog.

  • 21 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:09 AM

    TS…hi mate I am still here!

    I think we have gone through this before haven’t we? I know I have with tads ;)

    I explained what I meant about this yesterday and JB explain the problem very well as well. Even Ed outlined it this morning by saying at any company there were 3 options when the person in charge was not performing up to standard:

    1) move him sideways

    2) sack him

    3) or the person himself could walk

    The main thing here is I think (and it seems I am not alone here) Parsnip is accountable to us and the club. If you are accountable then you have a responsibility.

    I am not suggesting you have to agree – that’s up to you.

  • 22 theartfuldodger // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    J4A,

    Why do fans in general still go to watch that crap..Whats the logic..

  • 23 Marty-Toon // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    Lol,
    There is a difference of 50 goals between Liverpool and us in that time,that’s just ridiculous.

  • 24 Mike's Iron Curtain // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Remi Garde of Lyon. His contract expires in the summer and he’s stalling on signing a new one. Hand in glove with our current squad. Suppose MA lacks the nous to make such a move, probably only employ British managers he’s heard of or has some sort of connection with, such is the man’s sensitivity and insecurity. His subjects (the fans) turn up with all the misguided loyalty of an abused dog and the few hardcore fans that stay away, are replaced by a casual going for their first time, for a ‘lovely day out’ – the passion diluted.

    Remi Garde is probably stalling due to the Wenger situation, can see him replacing Wenger if he finally steps down.

  • 25 geordie157 // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    Just get Lee Clark in, he understands the fans want to see decent football and has also had to work on a limited budget.

  • 26 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Marty, when the team is set up to contain for 3/4s of the game, our goals for column is a side effect of negativity.

    Our fabled fifth place we only had a goal difference of plus 5. That is with all the clean sheets we had as well.

    Poor football which has since been found out the following year and again this year.

  • 27 Transfer Sage // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    Jesper

    Oh I totally agree Pardew is accountable, he may not have all the tools for the job from Ashley but he certainly has more than enough to do much much better than he has the last 4 months (and last season too).

    I agree with you in theory he should walk but in reality not many people would (unless like in a lot of business they offer the man the chance to walk or be sacked….both the same outcome but one looks better, but usually people are ‘forced’ to walk).

    But it goes back to my other point….I honestly don’t think Pardew thinks he is at fault. I genuinely believe he thinks he is doing a good job just everything else is going against him. Therefore he won’t walk because he doesn’t see himself as the problem.

  • 28 cyprus // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    Ed forgot a fourth, I’m surprised.

    4) Move him upwards.

    A nice ‘directorial role’ would get him out of the way.

    People tend to rise to their highest level of incompetence.

  • 29 theartfuldodger // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    Tony Pulis..The Unrelegated One..

    Ashleys preferred choice..

  • 30 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    you’s no what by the end of next season MA will regret not getting rid of AP when we came 16th, relegation is a certainly next season whether we improve the squad or not.

    I’m getting tired of tw@ts on here stating because MA didn’t invest into the club this is why we are sh!t and play very poor football, before anyone starts try and know your football before putting all the blame and that c@nt MA.

    1. Pardew picks the team, style & formation, FACT.
    2. we have a better quality than most teams, FACT.
    3. we have the worse manager in the PL, FACT.
    4. we are now the worse team in the PL, FACT.
    5. we have up till now 20 bad records at Newcastle because of Pardew, FACT.

    to me all the blame should be pointed at Pardew not MA, and imagine this guys if MA did invest into the team for 2 seasons what the f@ck makes you all think that we would be in a better place?????????????

  • 31 Transfer Sage // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    dodger

    If you have already bought your season ticket and are in the city/area anyway most people will go still, just so they aren’t wasting a ticket they paid for.

    The true test will be attendances next season.

  • 32 Blofal // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    Tony Pulis is brilliant for Ashley. Ultra defensive and a track record of avoiding relegation.

    Thats what scares me about the story… its precisely who I would employ if I had no ambition and just wanted to keep the club mid table.

  • 33 Transfer Sage // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    black and white army

    I agree the style of play, the lack of cohesion, the gutless displays are down to the manager.

    but to not give ashley blame is madness…..forgetting about investment in players for a minute, ashley is still the man who has hired, and continues to employ pardew.

  • 34 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    TS

    I ripped my season ticket up and I was still paying for it.

  • 35 Transfer Sage // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    black and white

    But I don’t think most people would, most would go to the games or lend it to a friend, etc etc

    Next year we will see as i doubt people would want to have paid again for this tripe.

  • 36 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Transfer Sage

    to me with this case it can only be the case of bum chums loving each other, MA & AP are obviously very good mates.

    MA can be blamed for hiring and firing people but I’m just getting tired of people not noticing what Pardew has done to the club and they would rather put the blame on MA simply because they think AP is a good manager

  • 37 theartfuldodger // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    TS and Black and White..

    I asked for a reason and thats a pretty good one. The true test will be next season. We cant expect everyone to tear their tickets.

    Perhaps attendances next season drop to around 40K…

  • 38 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    Transfer Sage@35

    to be honest mate I think people will still attend matches next season and still there will be an attendance of 50+ thousand.

    this alone shows they have no loyalty to NUFC and they should be treated the same as MA & AP because to me it’s the attending fans that keeping MA & AP at our once proud club.

  • 39 sparky55 // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    What upsets me the most is is our gradual erosion of expectation. It’s like we’ve been told the club has been diagnosed as having terminal cancer and we’re just waiting for it to slowly die.

    The fans have no expectations that we’ll win any more but we still visit our dying relative out of duty and nothing more.

    2 years ago when a few of us saw the cancer, we were told we’re a bunch of idiots who don’t know what we’re talking about.

    Now the patient has lost all it’s hair, is down to 6 stone and is turning grey you’re starting to see the light…but that’s because you love the patient very much and are in denial because you don’t want to see your loved one die.

    But dying we are…the only part of the Ashley plan that isn’t working is Pardew is sooooooo bad the owner has to keep on spending money to keep us up whereas a half decent manager could have kept us reasonably competitive without having to spend half as much money. I don’t care what people say…the squad is good and a good manager could have made us competitive and players wouldn’t want to leave like they have.

    Pardew is simply one of those foreign doctors with false credentials who is ‘taking care of the patient’ and watching it die without caring a sh!te for the rest of the family…i.e. us the fans.

    Pardew has his arse in the air because of the debt he has to Ashley and this is part of Ashleys MO. He paid off the debts of a CEO of JJB so he owned a man on the inside…this is the perfect scenario for Ashley…he has everyone he needs in his pocket.

    Nothing will change until one of the following happens

    1.) some wealthy arab or chinaman pays ££350,000,000 for the club or

    2.) Until the end of next season when he’ll buy Rangers when they’re only one season off getting back into the scottish premiership when he’ll buy the scottish first division title title then one year later they’re back in the Champions league and Sports direct have a bigger televised target market as he buys global domination.

    He will of course ensure we get relegated just before he buys rangers because Pardew will be employed to make sure we do…and then his perfect revenge on the fans who ran him out of town will have been taken.

  • 40 Transfer Sage // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    dodger

    I have heard anywhere from 4,000 season tickets not renewed to 16,000 so a massive swing…have to see the true number in august when the season starts I guess.

    Black and White

    Yeh pardew has made mistakes but if a player was constantly under performing we’d blame the manager for continuing to play him. The same can be said with pardew, same mistakes all the time yet the man above him won’t swing the axe.

    The pair of them are in it together. Pardew won’t get a better job, ashley has the yes man he needs to keep quiet and stay in the league…they both win whilst we lose.

  • 41 Mike's Iron Curtain // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Best case scenario:

    MA services the ‘debt’ using the £70m profit, Pardew is sacked, we sign a manager that can work with this team and add a few cheap signings/freebies, we stave off relegation next season, MA grabs the remainder of his ‘debt’ (another 60m?) from the similar sized profits and sells up. Us still in the PL this dismal era behind us, with an auspicious era to come!

    If we all accept MA is the root cause, then we have to identify the obstacles that are preventing him from leaving – it’s the money he thinks he’s owed, the sooner he has that back, he’ll be much more prepared to sell up and move on to Rangers and buyers won’t be repelled by having another man’s mistake included in the asking price.

  • 42 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    Laurent,
    You couldn’t hear much from the Leazes end shouts of Toon Toon, get a wry smile of those around you knowing it’s a forlorn hope, but you’re right about that second goal being earlier, I think it might have sent the crowd over the edge, he won’t get much grief at the Emirates as it’s a Monday night, we’ll probably beat Cardiff to spare him, and the Lpool fans will drown us out on the last day, lucky man.

  • 43 Transfer Sage // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    black and white

    I disagree….the fans who go just want to watch their team, regardless of how good or bad they are, it’s admirable for me.

    The fact is the cub made a 10mil profit last year. This year add to that 20mil from cabaye and an extra 20-30mil from the new TV deal. So there is a 50mil profit (providing costs are similar, which they should be).

    So even taking away the 28mil from match day revenue if every fan bycotted every game, the cub would still make money.

  • 44 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Transfer Sage

    aye mate it’s very annoying how we are used, Newcastle don’t seem to be club any more we are a business front, people still say they support the team not the regime but hold on where’s the team? because they are certainly not playing like a team, they don’t even act like a team, nor have the passion of the team.

  • 45 daztoon // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    We have a manger who only knows one way of playing and can’t adapt or won’t.

    He’s had the perfect opportunity to try new formations,rotate the squad even give some of the youngsters a run and bed them in slowly.

    I could take the losses if I could see he was trying something new.

  • 46 shearermania // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    i think everyone needs to lay off pardew…
    he had enough stick..its clearly not his fault that the players cant score, defend, string more than 2 passes together…each and everyone clearly can see that theres only one person to blame for this mess…,,and yes it aint pardew…..
    i think we should all get behind pardew for our next home game and make banners and chants that unify our togetherness in wanting this poison out of our club……united we stand against this cretin….the person whos responsible….
    BEN STEVENS……get out of our club

  • 47 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    shearermania

    lol

  • 48 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    Shearermania, it always comes back to the manager. He is managing the team. It is his responsibility and his duty to change what isnt working. Poyet eveb said that in an interview I heard last week. He is quite right.

  • 49 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    Laurent Robert 32

    I think shearermania was being very sarcastic in his post.

  • 50 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    B&W, you’d hope so… dry humour hopefully, not just buckets of dry white wine.

  • 51 theartfuldodger // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    Sparky55,

    good post..

  • 52 shearermania // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    laurent robert32
    pardew can only influence the things and tools he has got to work with…its clear that ben stevens is the bad influence in the team – his arrogance and non tactical nous definitely is one of the courses of this slump – ben stevens wasnt on the books when we finished 5th…..all our strikers has lost their mojo in front of goal. our defenders leaking goals like a broken pipe….its all benny stevens….ben stevens we should stone the bastard….i for sure will give him some stick next game…its all his fault

  • 53 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    I thought once that Pardew had pride and passion for football now it only seems he is in it for the money.

    well I’m off now guys to go get my Sunday dinner which seems to be the only thing now I look forward to so I’ll rant later ;)

  • 54 Mike's Iron Curtain // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    I see nobody wants to confront the debt issue, which is the main thing dragging the MA era on – probably the reason the club is what it is. Fans can’t focus on the ultimate objective. They want MA gone, but aren’t prepared to face up to how that will have to come about.

    Who’d be happy for MA to take nearly all the profit this season, replace Pardew and gamble that another manager can secure our PL status next season with the squad we have, save for a couple of outgoings we all know are certainties and loans/freebies coming in?

    I know I would, as I think we have a the 7/8th best squad as it stands and if we we are clever, could finish safely in mid-table again, so MA can take the rest of his debt at the end of next season and sell up.

    If we could communicate that to him and get him to agree, that’d be light at the end of the tunnel. Now, how do you go about contacting a billionaire recluse?

  • 55 hitman // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    pardwho is doing the perfect job for ashley,no ambition in the cups no ambition in the league,just plod along in mid table.this club under the fat twat has been sucked dry of any ambition..

  • 56 Transfer Sage // Apr 20, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    mike’s iron curtain

    Probably would take that as I don’t like what ashley does for the club…not overly bothered on the finances as we have an ok team, it’s more his treatment of fans and the area, not engaging and connecting with the community well enough at all.

    The problem is, Ashley does that for 2 years, takes 100mil out, then what? why would you leave when you can get away with making that much money? you’d just stay.

  • 57 Slank // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    If Pardew had to go then he should go before the start of the summer transfer window as all new managers have their own ideas on what formation and tactics they want to use and which players are best suited to the new playing style.

    I would imagine that Charnley will have a major say as he can see the reaction of the crowd to Pardew and will not want to be associated with him. There can be no hiding from such a prolonged succession of terrible results. The fans are frustrated and fed up and Charnley, who I assume lives locally as he has been at the club for years will be having his ears bombarded by all those around him.

    A word from Charnley to Ashley and that is it.

  • 58 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Let’s go for Pulis !
    At least he’s got a good track record :)

  • 59 daztoon // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    The club is now making a profit and Ashley has his free advertising.

    The premier league is shown worldwide.Why would he give that up for a soon to be SPL team with limited coverage.

  • 60 Mike's Iron Curtain // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    Transfer Sage

    Well maybe that’s where the various fan groups can come into play and do something worthwhile, I’m sure there are 1 or 2 people with legal expertise involved, maybe if the lines of communication can be opened, a legally binding contract can be drawn up? Along the lines of, pay off your debt by the end of the 14/15 season and then place the club on the market for a reasonable, independently sought valuation.

    Farfetched? Yes.

    I don’t know, just brainstorming and trying to move the sorry state of affairs forward. Then poor Rangers will be burdened with him, if the rumours are true, which they seem to be given he’s already bought a small stake.

  • 61 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    I went to the game yesterday but it was on a ticket that had already been bought, even if I hadn’t of went the attendance would have been the same, people need to cancel season tickets en masse to make a difference but it’s hard for people who’ve sat in the same spot for many years.

  • 62 Mike's Iron Curtain // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Daztoon

    Any alternative suggestion? If not and we accept he’s here to stay in perpetuity, we may as well pack it in now.

  • 63 daztoon // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Mike

    I agree with what yer saying,but like it’s been said to Ashley it’s about business not football and he doesn’t care about the fans.

  • 64 Slank // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    Yo yo

    The problem the club has with any new manager is that top class managers with a track record of success go to top class clubs unless they are paid a fortune to step down to a mediocre club like ours.

    The clubs options would appear to be:

    1 – Buy the best if available but often money is not the driving force of a top manager.

    2 – Get a tried and tested Premier League manager eg Pulis, Bruce, Hughes etc

    3 – Take a risk and get a manager from the lower English leagues.

    4 – Take a bigger risk and get an unkown and untested manager from abroad.

    5 – Keep Pardew and suck it and see.

  • 65 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    Slank,
    Unless there is serious investement in the summer option five will see us relegated

  • 66 Slank // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    Jail

    I think all options are risky, some more than others.

    It is very difficult to tell which option will play out the best.

    For example, would Cardiff, Sunderland and Fulham have preferred Pulis to a foreign manager even though Pulis was seen by many as bit of a managerial dinosaur?

  • 67 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    It really is embarrassing how Pardew is still here and is so obviously just waiting to get fired as he totally lacks the dignity or morality to walk after overseeing failure of epic proportions.

    Yes Pulis has done well at Palace but that would be the sickest joke on our club yet if he replaced Pardew. Another never won anything, mediocre mid-table anti football manager like Allardyce and well… Pardew.

  • 68 theartfuldodger // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Wouldnt sacking Pardew have a negative effect on summer transfer plans..

    They would have spoken to a few players and Pardew would have outlined his plans and their roles and may have convinced them to a pre contract…

    We must note that this is an important summer and in order to be successful and cheap thorough preparations must have been done. Ashley may not want to upset that…

    Perhaps Pardew will be retained till next Jan atleast..I really hope thats not the case though..

  • 69 catchy in norway // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    JAIL

    i guess you have paid in full to for next season, you know to keep up your great work of supporting Ashley, oops i mean the team

  • 70 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    WHY DID stoke get rid of Pulis? Answer because they wanted to play football and Pulis had taken them as far as he could !!!

    Ashley’s lack of football knowledge regarding his staff appointments are really alarming.

  • 71 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Rotonda,
    I’m sure you’ll be able to dig a couple up, but can you give me any managers that have walked over the years to save their dignity.

  • 72 catchy in norway // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    sparky

    great post, thats exactly how it is,

    most wont respond, most are to busy being sheep, but there are a few of us that would do the right thing for the club

  • 73 Transfer Sage // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    As far as I can see it this is just going to be another chapter in the book of NUFC, a disappointing and dull one but it must be played out.

    Hopefully fan groups unite and these 2 season add presssure to those at the top.

    Ultimately though I want decent football and cup runs, that’s what you remember when you’re 80 and telling your grandkids about the games you went to.

    Over my life i expect us to have the odd relegation so tht’s not the end of the world…..i just want an exciting team where you say do you remember this player, or remember going to wembley, etc etc

  • 74 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    jail

    Unless you are prepared to stop going to SJP while Ash is here it’s hard to have too much sympathy for you when you moan on here all the time about Ash.

    Sheer hypocrisy lecturing to others unless you make a stand yourself and stop feeding the Ashley cash cow.

  • 75 theartfuldodger // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Rotunda,

    Correct, why hire a manager who is an expert at helping sides avoiding relegation.

    Oh wait…

  • 76 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    The talent at the club to lose 5 in a row is 100% down to Pardew, picks a team with no goals in it week after week.
    A two bob sunday league manager would have a better game plan imo.
    Imagine if wenger was in charge he would have sissoko, debuchy, remy, marveaux and benny all firing

  • 77 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    TS…then lets hope he will be given a choice sooner rather than later to do one of the three options I outlined ;)

  • 78 catchy in norway // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/ben-stevens/22/b40/8a9

  • 79 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    jail

    You’re right , not many spring to mind but surely when it gets this embarrassing you’d do the right thing, if only to preserve your own sanity.

  • 80 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    Makes you wonder if the top 10 bonus has been lifted. As they dont look like a team playing for extra money to me. My friend said he paid 527 for a season ticket at man u. Not much more than newcastle and theyll probably spend 200 million quid

  • 81 daztoon // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    It’s the perfect time to sack Pardew

    Would be interesting to see Beardsley take over the last three games sure he would use the likes of Benny and Marv.

    Our best two playmakers wasted under Pardew in a side that lacks any attacking threat

  • 82 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    Rotonda,
    I haven’t fed the cash cow, I bought a burger outside the ground, take a hip flask in and the ticket was already paid for, at least I was there to shout abuse if I got the chance, what you doing about it ?
    Catchy,
    Are these sheep you go on about from Bristol, Cornwall or Norfolk,
    Baar baar

  • 83 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    artful

    i think it would have a very positive impact. i think a lot of our better players may stay and others who wouldn’t have come may change their mind.

    face it with pardew stopping we’d only get bent, Tompkins, jenkinson standard players

  • 84 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    Jail

    D’urr not going to the game!!

  • 85 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    Shouting abuse when ash isn ‘t even there is going to achieve didly.

    20000+ empty seats is the only currency he understands

  • 86 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    Rotonda,
    And how many did you go to prior to this slump. you’ve openly supported Mashley up until last summer despite him giving Pardew an eight year contract, how many games did you attend while you thought Mashers was doing a great job.

  • 87 Transfer Sage // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    Boycotts do not work….no team does them, never get enough fans to avoid enough games to have an impact.

    the maximum amount of money by having every fan miss every game is 28mil (from figures last year)….never even get half of that missing all season so pointless.

    Need more vocal and creative ideas like liverpool did against hicks an gillette.

    Protests need to be visible, not just hiding away at home.

  • 88 catchy in norway // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    jail

    how can you shout abuse when your there to support the team,

    ohh i see your there to shout abuse at Ashley, but he dont go to the match???

    jail, all you ever do is come on here an moan about ashley, ahsley has a lot of faults but he does not coach the team,
    surly your a football fan first and for most, and you chose to go to watch a match to see good football, ?

    im sure you never became a fan so you can moan about how little money is being spent,

    lets say ashley spent 100 million, would you trust pardew to get the best out of them ?

    i dont think so

  • 89 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    Needs some serious investment, who would wanna sign for us anyway? Its a mess from top to bottom.
    Some of them players are playing to be away.

  • 90 BandB // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    I think the club probably had its end of season statement written.
    “We are delighted that we have achieved the challenging target of a top ten finish we set ourselves. It has been a successful season.”
    And they would have been right on the front foot, claiming vindication and suggesting that all the was required in the transfer window was more of the same.
    If they now finish 11th, their fox is shot.
    I believe Ashley would still prefer not to part with Pardew. As Ian Toon said, during the head-butting affair Ashley actively worked to protect him.
    But if a crisis emerges during the summer, Pardew could easily be the scapegoat. Everyone around Ashley is sitting in an ejector seat.
    He is not unsackable. And he knows it.
    If season tickets fly off the shelves, it will be business as usual.

  • 91 stuart no9 // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Jail. ___ try not going ! Tell us the truth , why do you still go

  • 92 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Catchy,
    Catchy he won’t get the best out of them and therefore there won’t be 100M spent there will be the bare minimum spent to keep us safe and the situation will be reassessed in January, sacking Pardew doesn’t seem part of his plan.

  • 93 theartfuldodger // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    The only reason we buy good players is cause we can sell them at a profit.
    And we wait 2 windows also if needed.

    We get confused if its a sign of ambition.

    But now that I think about it, I look at it this way.
    We want a top 10 finish and are good with that. Why do we need a debuchy for that. We can buy many players in the 3-4m range who are ok and will do a solid job. We got willo and simpson for that.
    We look to be going after players with a sell on value.
    Sign of ambition or a trap ??

  • 94 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    If I win that euromillions on tuesday im gonna buy them a striker for 20 million. Over 51,000 watching shola ameobi is an absolute disgrace. He wouldnt get in any other premiership team and struggle with 50% of championship teams. Pardew raves about this armstrong then says hes a million miles off a start????
    But shola is good enough, it makes no sense

  • 95 BandB // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    Though I have teased and questioned Jail on this, the question of why he still chooses to go is surely far less important than the reasons why he should be driven away?

  • 96 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Stuart,
    I stopped going all season until my mates daughter asked me to take her because her dad was away and the last couple the daughter hasn’t been able to make and I’ve gone with her dad, I have not bought a ticket or renewed my membership, I got off my ar$e and handed flyers out before the Chelsea game, I have also attended a couple of fans meetings this season and donated money towards a banner for the protest, bar Ruddy and MacToon, what has anybody else done this season, who posts on here, easy for Catchy and Rotonda to tell people to boycott when they don’t go anyway, I accept it from people like Jmiley and BandB who have given up a lot to stop going.

  • 97 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:10 PM

    Already dreading Liverpool game.

  • 98 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:11 PM

    Fair play for taking your mates daughter if she still wanted to go.

  • 99 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:11 PM

    BandB,
    I fell off the waggon , what more can I say.

  • 100 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    jail

    Up until 3 years ago I had been going to matches since 1970 !!

  • 101 Slank // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    It’s totally pointless shouting abuse at Ashley when he isn’t there. It’s arguable whether it’s pointless when he is there.

    Fans should be getting on Lee Charnley’s back. He is always there and he is the boss as he is the MD. His job is on the line. He is a fan of longstanding. He is probably hurting like everyone else.

  • 102 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    Norwich 2-0 down but still laying better than us.

  • 103 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    When you handed the leaflets out what sort of response did you get?

  • 104 BandB // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    Jail,

    When a fan decides to stop going. That is not a success. That is not something to be celebrated, though it is probably in the end what is needed. It is a sad moment. A moment which in my case was tied up with lots of happy memories from which I now feel divorced. It isn’t very pleasant. I have made my point. I won’t be hounding you.

  • 105 Average_Contents // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    We’re gonna get battered everywhere at anfield

    Not looking forward to it in the slightest as I live in Liverpool and the wife n her family are all reds! I’m already gettin stick of the f*****s :(

  • 106 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    Koeman is free

    Cocu and De boer will need less compo.

    Why Pulis?

    BTW he is way better than pards.

  • 107 Average_Contents // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    We’re gonna get battered everywhere at anfield

    Not looking forward to it in the slightest as I live in Liverpool and the wife n her family are all reds! I’m already gettin stick of the fcukers :(

  • 108 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    The only thing I am clinging to is that no way would Ash pay compo for pardew and Pulis at 3M each

    Pulis would be the final, final kick in the teeth. Guaranteed dirty hoofball and mid lower table finishes every season.

    Why can’t we just for once get a good manager with a winning CV who plays ”good to watch” football.

  • 109 welshgeordie9 // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    We might as well go back in for Chris hughton he didn’t do anything wrong in the first place.

  • 110 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    Sir Alex Ferguson managed united for 27 years but he always kept changing assistants.

    Kidd
    Quiroz
    Meulensteen

    We have kept the same, worse still gave them 8 year deals.

  • 111 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    Rotonda,
    So you stopped going as soon as Pardew was signed, fair play to your militant stance, didn’t stop you getting on my case in support of Ashley though.
    Scout,
    98% positive tbh, a couple of guys in one boozer in Haymarket were a bit aggressive but that was it.

  • 112 magpie6699 // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    What’s everyone moaning about? We scored a goal against the 5th bottom team, din’t we? I waited for the lap of honour at the end of the match but it didn’t happen – maybe the players were too tired after their stalwart efforts?

  • 113 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    Also did anyone see the improvement on Routledge yesterday?? He never played like that in a Toon shirt?? Or was he not ALLOWED to play like that??He was everything in a winger that we need , quick , works hard at getting back and has END PRODUCT!

    Just goes to show that playing in a team that plays the game the right way can do you wonders for a player got to wonder what some of our players would look like with a change of football philosophy I am willing to bet that we would see a significant improvement

    Is Pardew ever going to deliver that even with big money to spend ??Sadly I dont think so its just not his style

  • 114 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    Jail

    Please don’t give me that I’m a better fan because I go to more games BS.

    I am discerning enough to know when i am watching
    s—e and opted to vote with my feet. I’ve spent 44 years of my life going to games and at some point enough is enough.

  • 115 JamesToon // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    Michael Laudrup is on A FREE!!!!!! WHY PAY 3MIL FOR PULIS TO PLAY HOOFBALL WHEN WE CAN GET LAUDRUP ON A FREEEEEE

  • 116 stuart no9 // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    jail— ok so you done your mate a favour by taking his daughter. nowt wrong with that , i would probably do the same, however , what i would have done – once his daughter stopped wanting to go , or didnt go for whatever reasons , i would have stopped as well . simple as that – no need to go back , so you must be getting something out of it to satisfy your own selfishness? i dont know but something is attracting you there.

  • 117 toonking // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    yo yo
    are you a person who does stories for the mirror or does the mirror use this blog for headlines?
    if the answer to them is no then it seems to show that really their is never going to be a decent manager likely to come here whilst ashley is in charge and ashley himself has had enough reasons to sack pardew yet he still looks happy to keep him so it’s obvious he doesn’t want newcastle to finish 6th.

    TS 87
    liverpool are more well known world wide but i myself agree with you and think we should try and get rid of ashley by going down the same route as what liverpool did when hicks and guillett were in charge.
    Whilst ashley is here things will never improve as he just keeps wanting to make profit and when i watched the documentary on TV about his sports direct business and the way he treats his staff their, their is no chance great managers would want to work for him at newcastle.

    once ashley does go pardew might have a few games still but once the new owner showed a sign of properly building a team then pardew would be gone in just 10 games and the chances are a decent one would be on the radar knowing he would now be backed and not treated like a slave.

  • 118 JamesToon // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    AND HE’S PROVEN IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE AND WANTS TO WIN CUPS UNLIKE OLD DINOSAUR PARDEW!!!

  • 119 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    Thats good jail. All the players who were sold would walk in our team now barton, nolan, carroll, routledge, enrique….. makes me sick to be honest. Its pi–ing down here might just walk into the sea

  • 120 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    jail

    Everyone has their issues with Ashley but did he split up the Willo / MYM partnership or turn Gouffran in to a defensive left mid or make MYM a RB or on the bench or play Ben Arfa out of position etc etc, etc?

  • 121 Slank // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:32 PM

    Rotunda @ 107

    ‘..get a good manager with a winning CV who plays ”good to watch” football.’

    Playing devils advocate:

    Keegan had never been a manager before so that would have ruled him out.

    Dalglish won the league with Blackburn.

    Gullit – won the FA Cup with Chelsea.

    Sir Bobby – won everything before coming to us and won nothing thereafter.

    Souness – won everything in Scotland, which I have to admit is not such as big deal.

  • 122 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    Maybe he didnt but he did spend nowt in 2 transfer windows

  • 123 JamesToon // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    Rotonda would you be happy with someone like Laudrup or Bielsa, winning CV’s and attractive football?

  • 124 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    James Toon

    Because tragically we are the world’s most loony club and never make it easy for ourselves. Laudrup good football, actually won something and no compo or dinosaur Pulis for 3M. It’s a no-brainer!!!!

  • 125 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    Id be happy if laudrup played himself as well hes still better than anyone in our midfield

  • 126 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    MARCELO BIELSA IS CLOSE TO JOINING

    OLYMPIQUE MARSEILLE MANAGER.

    RULE HIM OUT.

  • 127 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:41 PM

    toonking

    yo yo
    are you a person who does stories for the mirror or does the mirror use this blog for headlines?

    1) No
    2) I have no idea

    if the answer to them is no then it seems to show that really their is never going to be a decent manager likely to come here whilst ashley is in charge and ashley himself has had enough reasons to sack pardew yet he still looks happy to keep him so it’s obvious he doesn’t want newcastle to finish 6th.

    Quite agree. I have only cited Pulis as a possible replacement as an ironic alternative to the De Boer cloud cuckoo land suggestions to those who think Pardew is the main cause of the problems and not Ashley. Pardew is a 40% ish win rate manager. So are most of the others being suggested. The only positive outcome is we’ll still lose or draw 60% but maybe not 3 in a row to the scum or by 4-0 successive weekends or 6-0 at home. Lose in style is def not Pardew. We lose badly. I do not want to lose in style at all….. but have zero confidence Mash will find a replacement who will be any better after the honeymoon period has worn off. The rot starts at the top and then trickles down through the management and then the team. There is one main man who should shoulder the blame. The rest maybe go along with it but do not have the power to do anything about it and want to stay in their jobs or get a signing to a better team.

  • 128 Average_Contents // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:41 PM

    Anyone else get the feeling that we picked the wrong dutchman in midfield?

    Leroy fer over Anita anyday for me

  • 129 70TWO // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    IMO “Ashley out!” is a non-starter, the guy is all about the money and no one will match his greed. His decision making in regard to the football produced is poor and he does not seem to recognise that greater returns could be generated within the current setup with a more capable manager. The number of players that are unused in the current squad is significant and if utilised properly should be able to mount a cup challenge. The more positive atmosphere created would consequently encourage greater financial success. His interpretation that purchasing Cisse and targeting European success was a mistake is flawed because of his continual employment of a manager who is incapable of developing a squad of quality players.

  • 130 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    If you had a million and you had to place it on pardew stays or goes what would you choose?
    I say hes a goner

  • 131 Slank // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    I have resisted the hire and fire brigade who would be happy with a managerial roundabout but I now think a change is needed to freshen and revitalize the club.

    Pardew, Carver and Stone have to go.

    If fans want to show their disgust they should ring or/and write to Lee Charnley as he is the boss. I believe all employees report to him. He only reports to Ashley. I believe Charnley is at the club almost everyday whereas Ashley rarely is.

    There is no excuse for any fan, wherever they live, to write to Lee Charnley and complain.

  • 132 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    What are you gonna say to Lee that he doesnt already know. A million and one reasons to sack Pardew were available for all to see yesterday.

  • 133 Slank // Apr 20, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    70TWO @ 128

    You are absolutely right that ‘Ashley Out’ is a non starter. Ashley’s life is Sports Direct whereas Lee Charnley’s life is Newcastle United.

    People should voice their disapproval to Lee Charnley as he is the boss. He is responsible for the club. He runs it on behalf of Ashley. He has the ear of Ashley. It is Charnley who will make recommendations to Ashley.

  • 134 Slank // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM

    Scout @ 131

    I agree but Charnley is the boss and the more complaints that are made to him either in person, or by the crowd or in writing he will know that he will have to act as the buck stops at his door.

    Ashley employs Charnley to manage the club and if he is a good MD he will recommend changes to the owner before the owner asks him why he hasn’t done anything.

  • 135 beefman13 // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM

    Still cant bare the thought of those wasters picking up bonuses fro finishing top ten, makes my skin crawl.

  • 136 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    How can I contact him?
    Ill write a letter now

  • 137 Toon-Prodigy // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:04 PM

    Are people actually forgetting that we are on course to finish in line with Ashleys targets? Not that it’s a good thing, the ambition is shambolic. Not investing in January was shambolic especially after losing Cabaye.

    We may be on a poor run and have been since christmas or there abouts, but the truth and facts are that we had a great first half to the season. While everyone was fit and with Cabaye and Tiote running the show we were fine. The football was better, the team looked good.

    We were fifth in November.

    There is a reason we are still sitting 10th regardless of any poor run of results. We were very good in the first half of the season.

    Lose our top scorer and best creative midfielder and our form has dipped. It’s no surprise to me? Pardew is a mediocre manager I wouldn’t expect anything else. Not to mention the players to come in are no where near as good. Gosling? Anita? Pfft.

    Would we be in this situation and on this run if Remy was fit and Cabaye, Tiote, Sissoko and Gouffran were still playing week in week out?

    Not a chance.

    Pardew is always going to be mediocre, he will always struggle when his top players are unavailable, this is not the first time and it won’t be the last either.

    But, he has proven more often than not plenty times, that when he has his best players available he can do it. And he can go on runs.

    The second team are a far cry from the first team. They are poor apart from 2-3 players or they are inexperienced for this level of football at this point in time.

    Don’t expect managers to be sacked when they are hitting the targets that has been set out, you are only setting yourself up for a fall folks. Ashley is the only person who can unlock the door and up the levels of ambition. Pardew will hit top ten until the cows come home.

  • 138 scout // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:07 PM

    He wont hit top 10 next season pal ne chance

  • 139 BandB // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:12 PM

    There’s now an even money chance we won’t hit top 10 this season either. Yesterday was a big chance to wrap the targets up blown. Swansea were the last team we’ll play who might have settled for a point.

  • 140 toon kk // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:14 PM

    Let’s get everything in a nut shell we have a clueless manager, a poorly trained average squad which are lazy and not match fit and a owner who just wants SD advertised.
    Also thousands of fans who are fed up watching a team who cant defend never mind score.
    all a f…ing mess really.

  • 141 toonking // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:14 PM

    yo-yo
    when they come out with comments stating that they would not want pulis to come to newcastle yet they will have poyet it’s sounds to me like they don’t care about getting relegated as long as they see lots of goals, palace were odds on to go down but now are looking likely to be 11th or 10th, sunderland however are certain to go down and not once have they managed to beat a team in the bottom half of the table whilst poyet has been manager. the question i would love to have answered by these fans who want such stylish attacking football is this, what would be better a premier league title or a season with lots of games lost but lots of goal scored because that’s what kevin keegan done.

    the difficulty for most of them who think it’s as simple as changing a manager is that i don’t think these fans are from england and they won’t support england like myself. england is a team who had a great manager cappello who’s CV was great yet he was awful with england and it’s no suprise when the team itself is such a mess. to really blame a manager and coaches for everything you need to have a league structure similar to the german and spanish one which has got great academies and great internation teams.

  • 142 Slank // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    scout @ 135

    Try Newcastle United, SJP, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne.

  • 143 BandB // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:18 PM

    Slank,

    I’m sure Lee will be delighted to see you setting him in the stocks quite so early in his career as MD.
    You have identified his role as the new fall guy perfectly.

  • 144 ebm // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Very encouraged to see that the table I worked on and posted on another thread have been follow up with an article, however, I am not sure where you got the name Oleg Goldin from. I posted the table in the match thread yesterday, perhaps someone reposted it later? Anyway, no biggie, just thought I’d mention it.

  • 145 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:29 PM

    hey guys I’m back from my lovely Sunday dinner :) mmmmm

    anyway a few good post about managers, why would MA pay 3 million for Pulis when other managers who are better are free?

    this doesn’t make sense at all, but then again when has the Mirror ever been right when it concerns Newcastle?

    for me I would personally go for Martinez what he did for Wigan and now Everton is superb, he got the players playing football.

    people would probably say well he got Wigan relegated so he’s no good here, but guess what he won a cup with them and had a chairmen who couldn’t improve the squad with lack of funds, same with Everton they don’t have the right funds to improve there squad that’s why they had to rely on loan deals.

    but if Martinez came here he would probably become a legend within months being at Newcastle for some reason Martinez style for me is mixed between KK & SBR this is who we need, this is a manager who can take us forward and make us the entertainers again.

  • 146 gazzaforever // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    I’d love Martinez too but he wont come here. I would say Beardsley until the end of the season, and Laudrup after that.

  • 147 RUNAWAY777 // Apr 20, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    Welshgeordie9. Was not getting at u last night mate sorry for the mix up

  • 148 Oleg G // Apr 20, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    Hi. Just wanted to fix what Ed wrote. I just pointed this table out for him. Who made the table is a user who’s name is ebm and he posted this before the game last night.

    So I just wanted to make sure that the credit goes to the right person.

    Cheers.

  • 149 Oleg G // Apr 20, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    ebm // Apr 20, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    I see that you already wrote about that.

    Sorry that this how Ed wrote it.

    This is what I’ve wrote for him in the email:
    The last thing I wanted to tell you is, that maybe you want to write about this in the blog. We are officially the worse team in the PL in the
    last 17 games.

    Here is a table that a user named ebm showed today on the blog:

    And I’ve showed him the table. But I gave full credit to you.

  • 150 ebm // Apr 20, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    Thank you, Oleg. Obviously not the most important thing who wrote it, just felt a bit let down as I was thrilled when I saw my post had resulted in an article, and then a bit disappointed when I read it.

  • 151 Oleg G // Apr 20, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    I agree with you 100%.

    It is not a small thing if you worked on it.

    It is weird that there is no website out there where you can see a range of games and the result on the table. For example, if someone wants to see only how each team did in the last 10 games lets say, since a certain date. There is only one website that I’ve found, that shows the table also as “first half of the season” and “second half of the season”.

  • 152 lochinvar // Apr 20, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    So the total goal difference between us and Liverpool is 49 goals over 16 games – and we rely on Shola, De Jong and Cisse. Dire, dull and desparate. And we will be at Anfield to watch Gerrard lift the Premiership trophy on the last day of the season. Will Ashley be there? will Carver be there ? will Pardew be there ? Hope not but even hope has left the building.

  • 153 ronniegillsbackpage // Apr 20, 2014 at 7:08 PM

    Lee Charnley answers to MA ,MA answers to no one




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